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DIYSalvation
HEAVEN THE ORIGINAL UNIVERSE COSMIC ED 24
When most people picture Heaven, they imagine clouds, harps, and endless boredom, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.
In this DIYSalvation: Cosmic Edition episode, we explore a bold Bible-based model of reality, revealing Heaven as the original governing universe and our cosmos as its living mirror.
Plus, exciting news: my new book Stars: God’s Cosmic Plan of Redemption is now available on Amazon! Discover how the Bible and science unite to unveil God’s breathtaking cosmic design.
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DIY Salvation Cosmic Edition is back. Welcome everyone. So today we are going to resume our discussion about the cosmos of God. A few minutes ago, Spirit spoke to me and he said that some of you are asking, what is the point of learning about the cosmos, about the kingdom of God, about everything that we've been discussing in DIY Salvation Cosmic Edition, because a lot of people have issues, you know, troubles and all manner of things that they are dealing with, and they would rather, you know, receive teaching based on those things. And immediately he said that, he said to me to tell you, if this is what is in your heart, Spirit said, I should tell you that the reason why it is important that we should do this is because of what Jesus said in John chapter 17, verse 3, and he said, This is eternal life, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The point Spirit is trying to make is this He says, Eternal life is knowing God. For you to be able to experience eternal life, even from here on earth where you are, living in this body that is prone to dying. He says, You would be able to experience eternal life and all the things that come along with eternal life if you know God. Eternal life is knowing God, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom He has sent. So Spirit wants us to experience eternal life here. He's saying that, yes, you have issues, you have troubles, you have things that you're believing God for, and there's nothing wrong with you focusing on those things. But he's saying that his best for you is that you should know him, then you would experience those things unhindered. Do you understand? There will be no reason for any hindrances, in fact, to come to you or to even reach you or touch you when you are already experiencing and walking in eternal life. Eternal life is like a place in the realm of the spirit where you get to, and then once you get there, you're untouchable. Do you understand? And how you experience and how you access eternal life is that you have to know God. And that is what we're doing in on DIY Salvation completely. We're talking about everything about the kingdom of God so that you get to know. It's important for you to know for spirit to take so much time out to teach these things in depth so that we know these things. There is something he's trying to achieve. So you need to come out of that level of being a baby or a babe in Christ, a child always, you know, begging for food. If you're hungry, you're crying, you can't just go to the kitchen and cook food for yourself, right? Because you're still a child. Now you have to grow up and get to the point where, even if there's no food to even cook, you can talk to the father and say, Dad, what are we going to do about this situation? Do you get? Because now you're taking responsibility for your life, you're taking responsibility for your faith, and you know that this is the theme of DIY salvation, where you actually take responsibility for your work in God so that you'll be able to live what's kingdom first. Okay, so having said that, I've got very exciting news. I'm thrilled to announce that my brand new book, Stars, God's Cosmic Plan of Redemption, is now available for purchase on Amazon. So this book is very, very, very special to me because this revelation in the book is the heartbeat behind our DY Salvation Cosmic Edition series. God started talking to me and I began to write it down and then I began to teach it. But now the book is finally finished, all right, and it is available for purchase on Amazon. Every episode in this series is drawn directly from the pages of the new book Stars. This book is where the Bible and science come together to reveal the redemptive plan of God across the entire cosmos. If you have been enjoying DIY Salvation Cosmic Edition, let me tell you, there is more information in this book. Everything that you need to know, everything that I've taught is all they're all in this book. So go get it. It's filled with insights, it's filled with revelations. You know, it will transform the way you see God, the way you see heaven, the way you see earth, the way you see everything in between. So go grab yours today. It is available on Amazon. Alright, so today we are talking about heaven, the original universe. In the previous episodes, DY Salvation Cosmic Edition, we began exploring the cosmos of God. And just by way of recap, let's look at briefly a few things that we have been talking about. And if you've missed the other episodes, I would advise you to go and listen to them. Like this series is not something that you can miss. These are timeless messages, you know, that they are just timeless. It's for all generations, they are so timeless. It helps you. DIY Salvation fills the gaps in your learning, in your spiritual learning. Do you understand? DIY Salvation does that, and cosmic edition even makes it even goes even deeper. Okay, so by way of recap, we said that the cosmos of God is quite different from what science imagines it to be. Okay, so for science, what they just have is the observable universe, and you know they can't see beyond that, so it's what we can observe, and that's it. And even what we can observe is so vast that it blows the mind. All right, but through revelation knowledge, we've come to understand that the divine design of the cosmos of God is very, very different, and I have shared that design with you. Okay, so if you listen to the cosmos of God, I shared the design with you. So we talked about the different realms within the cosmos of God. We started by talking about the realm of God, which is at the very top of the skyscraper. Also, if you listen to Ella Leon and the stack dimensions of reality, is also there. But really, just go and listen to the entire DIY Salvation Cosmic Edition series. Okay, so we also discussed the firmament and the heaven of heavens, and discussing the firmament led us to talking about the marine world and you know evil spirits and how those all those beings came about, right? We also talked about the heaven of heavens, which is the highest heaven. We said that the realm of God is the realm where only God Himself exists, he dwells there. And then we said that the throne of God currently exists in two different realms, because the realm of God is above the firmament and the heaven of heavens, just below the firmament, where the living creatures exist, the living beings exist. Okay, we also talked about the famament. We said the firmament is the sea of glass that flows from the throne of God into the city, into the rest of the world, and it forms the foundation of all created worlds. We also established that the heaven of heavens is the highest heaven, literally the heaven that is closest to the realm of God. And we also said that the heaven of heavens is actually the first and original firmament, right? The rest of the firmament that we're experiencing in our world today, down to the water we drink, you know, it they are all like they are all from the original familiar, but because we're in a mirror dimension, you know it cannot be the real thing, it's not that pure anymore. Because truthfully, I don't think that our uh three-dimensional beings will be able to drink the water that is flowing straight from the throne of God, it would not be possible. I don't think our bodies can contain it, it's too too potent. We also said that the very term highest heaven presupposes that there are other heavens, and then we talked about other heavens as well. We also said that the Bible uses the word heaven in two powerful ways. We said the first ways that the first way that the Bible uses the word heaven is as dimensional layers, and the second way is talking about a governing universe. So I'm just going to explain that so that it's going to take us into our topic for today because we're talking about heaven, the universe. All right. So heaven refers to dimensional layers within the skyscraper of reality. We discussed this concept in early on and the stack dimensions of reality. So if you don't really get it, go back and listen to that. We said that each of these higher planes, they actually host distinct spiritual forms. The behavior of the farmament is such that it's like nerves passing through the entire universe. Do you understand? And everywhere the farmament goes, I told you there is a mirror dimension because it is a sea of glass, it's a mirror. It's a mirror. So below it will be a lower form of life, above it would hold a higher form of life. So there are different planes of life, always below it. The below, the one, the the part below it will always be lower. Okay, so we are like way down, down, down, down, down, you know, being three-dimensional beings. And that's the reason why the Bible says that what is man that thou art mindful of him, that you even placed him below, a little below angels. So God placed us in in one kind of condition that baffles the entire world. So each of these planes of life, like I said, they all host spirits distinct spiritual life forms. Some ancient traditions suggest that there are seven heavens. Remember what I explained to you before about the cosmos of God. There are two universes, one sitting on top of the other. The one sitting on top is the heaven, the one sitting below is the earth. In between them is the river of life. That's the firmament, that is the foundation for our universe. The entire entire universe, God calls earth. The Bible calls it earth. All right? Even before we talk about the planet Earth. Okay? So the entire universe is called Earth. The heaven universe is the original universe. So that's what we're talking about today. The heaven universe, the original universe. Then our earth universe, the one that we know right now, is a mirror dimension of the original universe. And I said that the picture that God showed me is that of an entire circular universe sitting on the shore of or sitting like on water, and then the reflection inside of the water, right? The reflection inside is our face is our physical universe. The one above it is the heaven universe. Based on what I've just explained to you, that there are different dimensions or there are different layers of heaven. People have said that there are seven heavens. So what that means is that our universe, being a mirror, has seven layers. So that means there will be first floor, second floor, third floor, fourth floor, and maybe probably we, since we are three-dimensional beings, we're on the third floor, you know, and then there's fourth, there's fifth, there's sixth, there's seventh. Then when it gets to the seventh floor now, then there's the famament. The firmament itself is um an entire dimension. So there are beings in the firmament, and then the firmament, you know, overlaps. It's what makes the two the two universes overlap. Do you understand? So when you get to the firmament now, you if you're if you're traveling as a spirit being, it won't look as if it's much different. Only that as you travel, the higher you go, the purer the life, the purer the life form, the purer everything around you. Do you get? So when you're getting into the heaven universe, you enter into the firmament first, then you now get into the heaven universe, and then there is another seven because remember, it's a mirror dimension. So you start to count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. And the seventh one will be the highest heaven, you know, the heaven of heavens before you get to the realm of God. Okay, so but then the book of Enoch says there are about ten. So he describes it, and he's even Enoch says that he reached God in the tenth heaven. Okay, so he's saying that there are about ten layers, and if the heaven universe has ten layers, of course, the earth universe also has ten layers of heavens, okay? So that means it will be twenty altogether before you get to the realm of God. The Bible does not really tell us how many, apart from Paul mentioning that he was caught up in the third heaven, and you will understand how Paul was trying to divide the three heavens. The first heaven being that he came out of our earth, right? And he entered into what we will call our own heaven right now, looking up and seeing, you know, the stars, maybe the realm of the stars. And then so then he leaves our earth, that's the first heaven. He now leaves the earth universe, that's the second heaven, and then he enters into the heaven universe as well. That is the third heaven. So that's how Paul described it. So that's why he said he was trying to explain that it's the third heaven. I'm not talking about this our heaven, I'm not talking about the one that is just above us. No, I'm not even talking about our universe, I'm saying that I went above it, and then I'm not even just talking about the fact that I just went to heaven, you know, because going into heaven is an entire, is a is a vast universe on its own. So you need to even know where you are going to in heaven. Do you get? Then he now says, I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about the fact that I went to see God. So he's saying that I went beyond that and I went into the realm of God, and the things that were shown to me were so, so there are things that I was not allowed to utter because it's not for three-dimensional the the ears of three-dimensional beings. Okay, so Paul says three heavens, but we know that he's not trying to describe how many planes of life. So that's all the Bible gives to us. And as far as that's all we have, it's okay. So that's why I always say we don't really know how many layers, because God has also shown me that it's not just about the layers, it's kind of intricate. Like the design is very intricate because there's a picture that God showed me everywhere. I told you that the the famament behaves like like nerves, right? You see, if you've seen the neural network, you know, in of the body, you see the way it behaves like tree branches everywhere, right? That's how the the famament, the water flows in and everywhere around the entire universe, both the heaven universe and the earth universe, and then even through different planets. So when this is happening, everywhere the river goes, there is life. That's one. That's what the Bible says. That's one. The second thing is that everywhere the river goes, there is a mirror dimension. So if you're to stand outside of the universe and you you had that, you know, the spirit power to be able to fly out of it, and then you can observe it as a whole, like that, you will find that it glistens like a mirror. Do you understand? There are different parts of it that is glistening, and each of those parts that are shining and shining bright like a mirror, like that, they are actually different realms. So at this point now, we really don't know how many realms there are. We don't even know the it's not just straightforward, like you know, you know how a city, the network of a city, looks when you look at look at the city from afar, it looks like nice. Until you enter into a dense city and you're like, wow, there's the underground, then there are different places that people live in that you never even imagined people could live in. There are just different places that people are building, what they're building houses, people just build everywhere. So it looks simple when you're looking at a map until you zoom into it, and then you're actually walking the streets of those densely populated areas, then you're like, Oh wow, this is really intricate. So that's how the design is. It's not just that straightforward. Of course, to God it's straightforward, but to our our small minds, it may not be that straightforward. So that we don't really know how many there are. The Bible doesn't specify the exact number of heavens, so it's safe to conclude that there are many. And I said that this intricate arrangement is governed by the behavior of the firmament because it functions like the central nervous system of creation, because everywhere the firmament flows, it creates a mirror dimension, and the realm above the famament becomes the heaven to the realm that is below the famament, and then the realm below the firmament becomes terra, that is the earth, relative to that higher realm. So, in this way, the number of heavens likely corresponds to the number of mirror dimensions in existence. For us to be able to know how many heavens there are, we should be able to also know how many mirror dimensions there are, which right now I don't think is really possible from our point of view, of course, from our standpoint, because the pharmamen's intricate design connects the realms that are seen and unseen, and it forms a living network through which divine command and you know cosmic energy they all flow through. I love it because it just shows you that a universe truly is a city. So the second way that the Bible talks about heaven is that it describes the original governing universe. So, like I said, there are two universes, there is one on top, which is the original universe, and there is one sitting inside the water, the mirror dimension universe, which is our universe that we know it to be. So today we're talking about the heaven as the original governing universe. This universe is vast, but it is the original spiritual realm. Okay, so many times when we talk about the spiritual realm, we tend to talk about the spiritual realm as if he's you know it has to do with Satan. But remember that Satan is actually domiciled in on this earth, the universe earth, that's what I mean. He's domiciled here, okay. So all the stars that we are seeing in this in the sky, I told you that they are all angels, but they are all domiciled in this mirror dimension. That means the earth universe is a mirror dimension, and this this is the physical universe, it is not the original universe. So that means that the spirit realm is not actually, does not even include the entire universe as we know it. The spirit realm is actually it actually begins from the original universe, that's the real true spirit spirit realm. The only thing that is separating us from seeing Satan and seeing the rest of the angels and the rest of the beings in our current universe is because we are trapped in the three dimension. And to tell you that Satan is just in the fourth dimension, but we can't even perceive him. So he has all these lies, you know, to try to, you know, derail us and you know take us from what is important. The true spirit realm. So, okay, let me give you another example. We'll talk about evil spirits, and I've talked about them. I've talked about mermaids, what are they? They are evil spirits, but they are all domiciled in this in this physical realm. Okay, they may have some kind of magic and some some kind of things to be able to have an air to protect themselves from us, right? But in the end, they are still domiciled here. They are not the true spirit, they are not this true spirit beings. We are all spirit, you and I we're all spirit, right? We're all spirit, but then we have we are all in this realm because of there is a physical element. Why? Because we are in our in our era of testing. When we are done with testing, when we pass our test, when we are successful in testing, what happens is that your physical body merges together with your spirit body and you become a full-fledged spirit being, you can no longer die. Then you are eligible to live in the place called the the heaven universe. Do you get the heaven universe? So the this entire universe is a place of testing. When spirits ascend, other religions talk about ascension, that's what it actually means. So when they actually ascend, when they grow into their spirit beings, their full spirit beings, that they don't die, they cannot die forever. Okay, that's the place where you have passed the test. But as long as you've not passed the test, there's still death here, there's still entropy here, right? So this is just a mirror dimension, is a mirror dimension for testing free moral agents. Okay, so like I said, the entire universe is not the original one, it's a mirror universe. And if there is a mirror, then of course there must be an original. And heaven is the original universe, and heaven, as the original universe, is hanging upon the foundation of the sea of glass that is flowing from God's throne. That's what makes it original. So that means that heaven and earth are a pair. That's why the Bible always treats them together. When God is always talking, He says, you know, the heaven and the earth, the heaven and the earth. They always got they're a pair, they're never separated, they're a pair, they're together. Now, do you know that modern science has started echoing this this truth as well that we see in the Bible? Because there are theories of parallel universes. I mean that they have they have reasons to science has reason to believe that there has to be another universe. You know, you've talked they talk about multiverses, but how many there are, they don't know, but at least there should be one more universe. And the reason is because of this anti-matter symmetry. Let me try and explain it. Everything that you see, the stars, the planets, your body, your phone, everything that you see you can touch is made up of matter. You know what matter is, is anything that has um weight, has mass, and you occupies space, right? Now matter has particles with positive charges, and that's what we know as protons and electrons, right? But do you know that there is something else called antimatter, which is the mirror opposite of matter, it exists. Do you understand? This antimatter has the same weight and energy, but it has opposite opposite charge. Okay, so if a proton is positive, an anti-proton is negative. Do you get that now? So, what science is scientists believe is that at the beginning of the universe, when this universe was made, that there was an equal amount of matter and antimatter. So the question is, where is the antimatter? Because it's only matter that we're left with. So they believe that something tipped the balance, and there is the antimatter is somewhere else, and of course, we have matter, which is what our universe is. What they say is this is that when antimatter and matter meet, they cancel each other out immediately, releasing pure energy. So that means our universe will not even be existing if antimatter and matter were to meet. Are you getting me now? Now, they said that something tipped the balance. There was something that came in between matter and antimatter to be able to balance it so that now matter can exist, our entire universe on its own. And the very fact that matter is existing shows that there is antimatter existing somewhere. That's the reason why they now say that there has to be another universe. So that means life in that universe will be a little different or the opposite of what the life on our universe currently is. If you want to apply this to what we've been talking about about the farmament, you already know now. Because if what science is saying is true, then of course the entire heaven universe is composed of primarily of antimatter. And the thing that tipped the balance, of course, you already guessed it, is the farmament. Because the farmament is a what? Dimension divider. I've said this several times, and you can see more of it. If you want more information, is in my book, go get it. All right? The the farmament is a dimension divider, it divides both dimensions. I told you that the best way to explain that the farmament is a dimension divider, is that the throne of God, Almighty, sits currently in two dimensions. Do you know? It sits in two dimensions. The throne of God, the seat where God sits up on, right? The chair, that's what I mean, the throne itself that he sits on, you know, is in the God realm. If you sit in that seat, you know that you're not even in this world. Like it's in the uncreated realm, in the God realm, right? But then the seat is set upon the sea of glass. That's the firmament. It's set upon it, you know, massive sea of glass. And the the creatures, the four creatures that carry the throne, they are set right underneath underneath the sea of glass. Their heads are right underneath it. Do you understand? So you already know from what we talked about the firmament, as long as the firmament is already above their head, you know that the firmament is a dimension divider. So that means from that firmament, from the water downwards, you know that that is the highest heaven. Do you get? That's not in the realm of God. For you to sit on that throne or to walk on top of that water, then you are in the realm of God. So the throne can be here, and meanwhile, it's operating in two different realms because the living creatures are in a different realm than the highest level. They're not in the realm of God. Not everything can exist in the realm of God. The uncreated realm of God, that is the eternity. Every other thing in the world is operating on time. I'm telling you, even in heaven, is operating in time, not in only God in his realm. So the farmament is a dimension divider. So the farmament divides the earth universe and the heaven universe. So that's what I was trying to explain to you that this is what divided antimatter from matter, and it forms the foundation of our universe and it separates, you know, antimatter from matter. So we know now that antimatter is a spiritual dimension. So that's the reason why I told you that there's no way that's the real truth, that's the true spiritual dimension because everything works differently. One day, God is going to roll away the firmament like a scroll. That's what the Bible says. He's going to roll it away. And when that happens, you guess right what science just said. It said antimatter will meet with matter, they will collide. What will happen? They will cancel each other out. What did the Bible say will happen? He said everything will go up in flames, the elements will melt with fervent heat, and that will mark the end of this present world system, and then God is going to replace it with a new heaven and a new earth. Again, still using the same pattern of using the firmament as a foundation. Is this not interesting? Also, you know, because of this strange antimatter symmetry, right? Some sci scientists think that there might be, I've told you they think there might be another universe, and that this universe is a mirror dimension of ours, made mostly of antimatter. Well, we know there is. We know there is. We know that our world is the world that mirrors, you know, like our world is the one that is a mirror. Okay, so what they are saying and they're guessing may be true is that if we are moving forward in time, because for us time is linear, then they are saying in that universe, that universe might be moving backwards in time. So now I don't know about the heaven universe moving backward in time because I don't remember the Bible saying that, but I do know that the Bible says indeed that time behaves differently in the heaven universe. Why do I say so? Because the Bible says a day with the Lord is a thousand years, is equal to a thousand earth years. Okay, so clearly you can see that time moves much slower there. So even if there is entropy, it's actually like it's it's not as fast as what is going on here. We are experiencing decay and aging, you know, because our time is moving fast, okay. But for that realm now, it moves towards renewal slowly, and entropy is weakened, okay. So this is what we're saying that heaven is a parallel universe and it's running side by side our own universe, and it is separated by a thin invisible boundary that we know as the firmament is invisible to us because, of course, we're not we're not in our full spirit form to be able to observe it, okay. But we do know that there is a higher governing realm. Science proves it by their theories, even if they they would not agree that they've proven it. Okay, that they so we know that there is a higher. Governing realm called the heaven universe, and the signs and patterns of the heaven universe are actually reflected in the world we see because we are in a mirror dimension. So when many people think about heaven, they start to imagine some a place that is dull, you know, people floating on clouds, you know, strumming harsh forever with nothing meaningful to do, you know. But meanwhile, pop culture and satanic deception they paint hell as a wild, endless party full of excitement and freedom. That cannot be farther from the truth because it's a tragic reversal of the truth. The real heaven, I've told you, is not a sleepy, sentimental image that religion has sold to us. And hell is not a celebration, hell is a prison, hell is isolation, is darkness and despair. And Satan is a prisoner. All the work that he's doing on the earth right now, he is projecting his as true astral projection. Even when he seems so real to you, he's projecting. Okay? So, but the misconception about heaven comes from Christians or for from us, imagine it as one big space that is somewhere up there, you know. But as we've seen and as we've painted from the beginning of this episode, we've seen that it's nothing like that. Heaven is an entire universe, is a governing universe, and it is not a mythical uh place, it's an entire universe, it is a bright, powerful, ordered universe. It is where life began, and it is from there that all creation flows into this realm that we know that is actually a testing ground for free moral agents. A few facts to note out of everything that we've discussed, heaven is a created realm. Okay, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. I told you they're a pair. Heaven is not a tunnel by itself, God created it, is a place, so that means that as a universe, there are galaxies, as a universe, there are planets, you know. As a universe, there are stars, there are star systems, and those star systems have planets. Do you understand? Our universe is a mirror. Okay, the only difference is that what we see in our universe will just be reduced in in spiritual substance, not as pure as the original universe, because we are like I told you, there's entropy here, there is no entropy there. Time moves slower, so a day is a thousand years. So you can imagine a lot of things, uh life is generally a lot better. Stars do not die, and even if they do, they take a very, very long time, longer, longer, longer, longer, longer, you know, to do so if that even happens. All right, so it's a real structured universe, it's distinct from earth, but it is all part of God's kingdom. Never forget it. So we've also said that heaven also exists in dimensions, so there are dimensions, as long as there are dimensions here, there is third dimension, there is fourth dimension, there is fifth dimension, there are also dimensions in heaven. There are dimensions in heaven, okay? So, and they are different. Mirror, what's obtains here as it is in heaven, so it is on earth. So, if there are 20 dimensions in our universe, there must also be 20 dimensions in heaven, because as it is in heaven, so it is on earth. Earth is the mirror. The only difference is that the original is always of a greater spiritual substance. Heaven itself, you know, is not a mirror universe, right? It's the original universe. However, heaven itself is still a mirror dimension as long as it hangs upon the firmaments. Okay, so heaven itself is still not the best that it that is not the best of God's creation, the best of God's creation will be the new Jerusalem because that the new Jerusalem will be situated in the realm of God. Hi, ah, I can't wait. Right? So it will be situated in the realm of God. Do you get so the heaven universe itself is even a mirror dimension because of the activities of the famine, because it hangs upon the famaments. Remember, the famament is the foundation, okay? So it's still a mirror dimension, stepped down in quality from the realm of God. But the new Jerusalem, ha God. Anyways, so the next fact that we have to know is that heaven is filled with inhabitants because heaven is a universe, just like our earth universe, it is populated by living beings. There are cherubims, there are seraphims, there are angels, there are archangels, there are countless celestial hosts. I believe that Angel Michael, Gabriel, and all of the rest, you know, these awesome, powerful guys that you know cut down Satan and did all of those things, those are the guys in heaven. They are the ones that have ascended, they are no longer in their testing era. They have ascended and they are living in heaven, they do the work of God, all right? So they are the ones that are in the heaven universe. Currently, we also know that in the heaven universe, we still have Christians that have died that are also living there for now, but it is temporary. Okay, it is temporary. Let me just remind you of something. Remember the Bible in the in the in Revelation when it talks about the saints that were wearing white who's who were killed during the tribulation for the sake of the gospel, right? Because they refused to denounce Christ, and that the spirits of the saints were underneath the altar of God in the throne room. What he's saying is that those saints were living in the heaven in the heaven universe. So in the highest heaven, that's where they are. They're just underneath the throne of God. That's that's what it means. The entire heaven of heavens, the highest heaven, is actually situated right underneath the throne of God. Okay? So, and the throne of God, don't imagine just one chair, is a vast, vast, vast space, real estate, very vast. I'm telling you. Christians that have died and have gone to heaven, when you hear that they've gone to heaven, they are currently situated in the heaven universe, in the highest heaven, because it's the place that is closest to God. But there will come a time, it's just temporarily, when our universe, the new Jerusalem universe, is has come down out of God, you know, and it has oh my god. I don't want to preempt myself because we still have to talk about it. So let's just focus on the topic today. Okay, so supporting scriptures, Deuteronomy chapter 10, verse 14, it says, Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord thy God, the earth also with all that therein is. This scripture is telling us that there are beings in the heaven, there are beings in the heaven of heavens, and there are also beings in the earth. Do you see that now? So the heaven is the heaven universe, the earth is the earth universe, the heaven of heavens, I told you, is the famament. Okay, is the famaments, and there are beings living in all these realms. Naemia chapter 9, verse 6, thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their hosts. You can see here, host already talks about an army of beings, of people. Okay, Psalm 148, from verse 1 to 4. Praise ye him, all his angels, all his hosts, all ye stars of light. If you read it from verse 1 to 4, it talks about these different realms, these different realms, and with beings living in them. Colossians chapter 1, verse 16. For by him all things were created that are in where heaven and on earth, visible and invisible. That you cannot see the heaven universe does not mean it doesn't exist, it exists. From Genesis to Revelation, the heavens are shown to be alive and populated. They are full of hosts, they are full of angels, they are full of celestial beings. Just the way our earth universe operates. I told you that God divided the earth universe into nations. So if you could see with the eyes of God, you would actually there will be a map of our universe showing the different tribes and different nations and different kingdoms and the people that are leading them, and so on and so forth. The same way heaven also operates in nations. So there will be constellations, there will be hierarchies, there will be galaxies, there will be clusters of nations, just the same way the earth reflects the same pattern. Matthew chapter 6, verse 10. Jesus said, Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on the earth universe as it is done in where? The heaven universe. So in heaven, also there are temples, you know, just as we have churches, branch churches, and then the central church. That's how it is also in the rest of the universe. I've told you this before that all the star systems, they have the planets, they have beings on them, and the beings are just living the way we are living, also. They have kingdoms, they have buildings, they have children, they have schools, they have everything that is going on, it's happening in the rest of the universe, and that's how it's happening in in the heaven universe. Again, the only difference is that the light, the the plane of life is higher. So, of course, things will be spiritually purer when it comes to the higher planes of life. So there will be temples, there will be courts, there will be councils, everything is structured and you know together in harmony. The four living creatures before God's throne, you know, they actually present the kind of life forms that you find across all the universes, if that's the right word. Across the heaven universe or the earth universe, across all creation, you find wildlife. The lion, the face of the lion represents wildlife, you know, the face of the ego represents airborne creatures, the face of the ox represents cattle and earthbound life, the face of the man represents humanoids. So this tells you that there are humanoids all over the world. In the entire universe, there are humanoids. It can't just be us. You know, when people when they start to draw aliens and they tell you, oh, this alien looks like this and they are from this star system, is a lie, yo. Is a lie. See, the beings, any beings that you see that looks as if they have been mixed with humanoids, they are actually evil creatures, they are not what God created. It's either you're going to find lions, you're going to find eagles, you're going to find ox, you're going to find man, or you're going to find angels. And the angels have their designations. Do you understand? And they have their design, they have the way they are. But when beings start to sin, they take on what is called the image of the beast. And I've said this before. I said I was going to talk about it. We've not yet come to it, but I'll talk about it. Okay. So there's a book I have called Jude Exposing Narcissism in the Church. I talk, I talked about it extensively. You can find a book on Amazon. So if you want to go ahead and read it, it talks about narcissism in the church and explains the root of narcissism, how to get rid of it, and how to avoid getting into the trap of narcissists. But it tells you that the Bible talks about narcissism from the beginning and how we can deal with it. So, and it's a book that is set in the book of Jude completely. So if you want it, you can go read it ahead of our podcast. Any day the Lord leads us to talk about the image of the beast, we will talk about it. So the beings that we call aliens in the world today, in our world today, that are walking the earth are actually they're half-breeds, okay? So they are not the beings that God created in all those star systems. So don't allow anybody to lie to you. They are stuck on this earth, they are part of the problems of this earth. Just as we have issues, okay, so that's how they are part of the problems of the that we have on this earth. We are all together in this thing. They are part human, they are half human and half whatever it is that you know their other parents are. This was how the giants came to be. You know, back in the day, there were so many beings that were born. And some of these children, they had they gave birth in weird ways because some of them didn't even have any genitals. All right. So they they gave birth in weird, weird ways. They could eat food, their stomach would grow. Before you know what's happening, they have a surgery, and then they bring out a reptile out of their stomach, and you do know do get different different kinds of beings were being born. That's why you know you see of sirens, you see of mermaids, you know, half man, half dog, half man, half this, half man, half whatever, werewolves and vampires and all manner of things. It's because of this that that's what we call evil spirits, okay? So they didn't come from any star systems, no. So, what you will find in all those star systems is the same things you will find on this earth, the legitimate beings that you find, you will find animals, you will find insects, you will find humanoids. Okay, they may be angels, they may not be human beings, you know, like us. We have a destiny to be with God, but they may be angels, but they are humanoids, okay? Then you find birds, you find fish, you know, you find sea creatures, all right? So they are all represented there. That's how you know. Just wanted to say that by the way. Also, another fact that you need to know is that heaven contains the blueprint of creation, which we've talked about over and over again. That the pattern of the things on the earth is are the things in heaven. And I like the way God simplifies everything. God is not difficult for you to know. Once he's you know his pattern, that's what you always get. It's it's it's almost scientific. You do you understand? Once you just study that this is a pattern, you will get the results almost every time. He is very simple like that. Even when he was teaching me these things, right? And I started discovering it. I I came across, you know, explanations about the New Jerusalem. That the New Jerusalem is a like a queue because of the Bible. When the Bible talks about the four corners of the city. Immediately I told God, I said, God, this is not your way. Because everything in the universe is made up of, you know, that the stars look round, everything is round us, you know, the sun, the moon, the planets. There is nothing square in the entire universe. Where did square come from now? Four corners. How did it come from? And they're even measuring it. I was confused. That's that thing took me two days, though. I prayed about I just stayed, I just left the thing. I was because I was not understanding again. I closed my laptop, I went to go and sleep. You know, so the next day I started praying. I prayed. The next day I prayed again. You know, I kept on praying until God now told me that I never change, I'm the same. So I now said, but dad, if this this city truly is not four square, what do you mean? Then he said, He's talking about the four corners, east, west, north, and south. He's not talking about it being a square. I say, ah, that was what made me understand. So I said, because it would make no sense for Jesus to say, in my father's house, there are many mansions, and then we now get to the to his father's house, and all of uh creation for all from eternity to eternity, eternity past, eternity, future, all of us will just be cramped in one small, what they call it, planet the size of a moon. How? So he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not what I said, you know, and that was what just opened up the entire thing for me, and I understood it. So if you want to know more, again, I've told you the book is available on Amazon. Go get your copy. All right, go get your copy. My books are actually for people who want to know God more, who actually want to take responsibility for their faith. You know, that there's no way you will read my books and you'll remain the same. No, no. Even me, I read them and I don't even believe I wrote the books. Okay, my name is on it because I represent God. But when I'm reading it, I'm telling you, I read a chapter and I look at God, I'll be like, Dad, this is good. Seriously, I'll tell God, I'll be like, Dad, this is good. Like, you're so brilliant. Like, how did you write this? You you would not even know that I wrote it because I know I didn't write it because I was hearing and I was writing what I was hearing. So when I read it, I'm like, This is so good. Like, I get blessed over. Do you know how many times I read stars and I'm still reading it over and over again? Each time going to do I do a recording, understand that I must have had like three days of study, reading the same book, and it's new to me every time. Ah, and I'm like, Dad, are you sure I should not pull down this book and edit it and add this new information that you just gave to me? Yeah, so go get your copy. So, yeah, we've already said that heaven operates in a higher time dimension. Psalm 90, verse 4 says, A thousand years in your sight are but as what yesterday. So we know that time flows differently in the heaven universe, it's slower, it's purer, and it's closer to eternity because of course it's closer to God. Then we've also said that earth and heaven form a dual cosmos. So in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Twin realms, one is spiritual, one is physical, it is separated by the firmament, yet it is what intricately connected. We said that heaven forms the pattern, earth carries the reflection, and we said that spirit, which is the heaven dimension, antimatter, governs matter. Spirit governs matter. Alright, so what have we learned today? Heaven is not just a faraway cloud city, it's the original universe, is the divine pattern from which all things flow. We have also learned that our world is a mural dimension, is a reflection of greater higher realities, and it is governed by God's eternal order. We've said that science may call it antimatter, it may call it symmetry or parallel dimensions, but the Bible has told us that heaven and earth are deeply connected and there are living layers of one grand design. Thank you so much for joining me today on DIY Salvation. If this episode has blessed you, do not forget to share it with someone who loves exploring the mysteries of God. And remember, you can dive deeper into these revelations in my new book titled Stars, God's Cosmic Plan of Redemption by Esther Obele, O-B-E-L-E. It's now available on Amazon and it's coming soon to Sailor. Also, if this podcast blesses you, consider supporting this work by becoming a monthly partner. You'll find the link, the support link in the show notes. And thank you so much for standing with us in this divine assignment.
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