Sex, Rock & Roll, and Projectile Vomiting

Join co-hosts Carly and Karla, two besties born a week apart and bonded by their opposite-but-complementary vibes, as they dive into the chaos, comedy, and connections of millennial life.

In this episode, we talk about Rock and Roll, Cornography and relationships, and Karla gives a sick update on the newest love of her life. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to Make It to Wednesday, the podcast that gets you through the week with laughs, real talk, and all the Gemini energy you didn't know you needed. We are your hosts, Carly and Carla, two best friends born a week apart, but somehow total opposites. Here we dive into life's big questions, small wins, and messy moments. Think dating, marriage, family, pop culture, and everything in between. Whether you're thriving or just surviving, we're here to remind you you're not alone. So grab your coffee, your wine, or whatever gets you through, and let's make it to Wednesday together. Welcome back to Make It to Wednesday, a hump day podcast. We are your show hosts. I'm Carla. And I'm Carly. And this is episode 56. 56. We made it.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

We made it. Happy Wednesday.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Happy Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Another week has passed. Yeah. That sounds weird. I don't know why. Another week has passed. Just like it sounds like death. Oh, yeah. Another week has passed. Some people have passed, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

But in this last week, rest in peace to those people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Like truly. Yep. Um.

SPEAKER_01 1:04

But we're here. We're here. And we're glad you're here. Never thought we'd make it to 56. I've been saying that since every episode in year two so far. Never thought we'd get this far. Yeah. In the sense of I always wanted to, but like. And we're here. We did it. We fucking did it. We fucking did it. And I love Go Us. I love that we like get together now and we sit down here. We have like a pre-podcast recording. We sure do. And we need to talk like full, like at least 30 minutes of like actual, like deep conversation, and then we get started. And it's like stuff that we're never sure. Like, we might bring this up, we might not, but I'm gonna bring you up to speed to this extent.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

Because like because I may say things. And there are things that like you need to know that like impact the podcast needs to know. You know, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Yeah. I don't know. Like periods. Well, we tell them every time we run a period. Have you started yours yet since the last one I had? You did, right? Yeah, yeah. Because now we're synced up again. Maybe. We're pretty synced. Yeah. Mine had to come hella early for that to happen. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 2:10

It's just so much easier. You know what I mean? It is. I can text you and say it's here, and you're like, okay, mine's coming. Yeah. It's just helpful for me.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

I mean, I do keep track on my like the app. Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

There's someone I used to sync up with that we worked with at uh one of our last jobs, and then I worked with again at another job. Yeah. She would always sync with me, and then we'd be traveling, and I'm like, girl, bring your stuff. It's happening. It's time.

SPEAKER_00 2:30

It's time.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

Well, we have to nothing worse by the way than traveling, like when it's time.

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Especially the first two days. Yeah, I think that when I go on my cruise next month, I think I'll be on my cycle. Isn't that crazy? Hear that? Papa Smith and Co. Papa Smith's not going.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Well, and Co. Heavy on the hand co. Mayo. You get yikes. Yikes, Mayo.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

That sucks.

SPEAKER_01 2:52

I keep forgetting that you have a room with your brother. Do we have pictures?

SPEAKER_00 2:55

I'm going on a cruise next month. A sibling cruise with my nieces. I'm also a niece and nephew. I don't have a nephew. Yeah, you don't have a technically do have a nephew, but he's in dog form, but um and uh I have been obviously assigned a room. Yes, there's room assignments, and I will be sharing a room with my brother. And I just it just feels a little unfair. It's so unfair. It's unfair because one, this man did not do any of the planning. You know, he's done quite literally nothing nothing so far. He's just showing up. Yeah, he's showing up with the bag packed and hoping for the best. I don't even know if he has like the appropriate licensing and all that. Like, I have no idea. So like he's just there. I hope. May or may not be able to board the ship. Yeah. But we'll see. I don't know. I'm like and so like, and he's he's very much in like he's he's just like already in vacation mode, and like, as someone who also would like to be in vacation mode, I don't want to have to babysit. Yep. I'd like to get drunk and not have to like worry about a man falling overboard on the ship, you know? You know what though? Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

This is me giving you permission. You don't have to. Bao, find a tripsetter. It's not Carla. It's not me.

SPEAKER_00 4:14

It should, it should be Kelly.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

It should be Kelly.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

She's already a parent. You know?

SPEAKER_01 4:20

What's a third child when you've got two?

SPEAKER_00 4:23

Yeah. It makes sense. And so I tried to finagle the room situation so that like it could be, and I guess you could be with your nieces or not both. I wanted to be with Arya. And I was like, well, Kelly, just have Beo in the room with you and Anne Marie. Yeah. And they were like, Kendra and Kelly were like, no. Why? Yeah, and what's Ken's room situation? It's just her and Ashley. And like, dad was like, who to share with them? Hmm. I could. That feels weird too, though. I went on a vacation with them, if you recall. I remember. I was in the hot tub with them. No. No, it was fine. It was fun. It was fun. You know, I don't want to be with a couple. We just don't want to like cramp your style, you know? I don't want to. I get it. I if I had a partner and I wouldn't want my sister to be in the room with my partner.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

There could be intimate things going down. Yeah, especially with alcohol involved. I get it. I just like, yeah. Huh. So you and Bao, and those are the three rooms. Yeah. And that's it. And dad's not going. Dad's not going. Dad paid for it. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Daddy. That's really sweet of that. That's so nice. And either way. What if you came back and like dad packed up the house and he's like preparing to move and he's like, jokes on you guys?

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Not on me. I'll look another fucking substitute. Didn't he talk about like Yes, and he should. Mm-hmm. I get why he wouldn't because the girls live there, so like. Yes. He wouldn't because he would never do that to Amory and Arya, but like they were also not living there for a while.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

And he still didn't.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

I think he really wants to leave the house to Kelly. Okay. Which That's really sweet. You have other daughters, though. I would like the house.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

I'ma sell it, but I would like the house. Of course. I don't live there. Well, it'll probably be that he'll like let her live there, but it's like if she ever sold it that I don't know. Because it's an inheritance at that point.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

No, it'll it it's gonna go in her name. Oh. Yeah, I think he's a favorite daughter. Who? I don't know. I I don't know. I can see why you make the argument that it's her. I it I know who it's not. I know there's an there's an argument to be made for either one of us. I would say that. But there's someone who it definitely isn't being made for. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

And I he takes care of your vehicle and stuff too. Right, yeah, that's why that's why like it yeah. He does what he can do for you from the distance that he is. There is maybe a sibling who lives closer.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

There are two siblings who live nearby, you know, who aren't getting the same treatment that I get and that Kelly gets. Uh-huh. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what to tell you about. That's actually That sucks. That's really unfortunate for you. And I can see I can see why that would be hurtful. I'm not willing to make a change in my lifestyle for it. Personally, I'm not in a financial situation where I can do that right now. So it is what it is. Yes. It is what it is. Um, anyways, we'll be talking about it. It's episode 56.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

I brought a fun fact. Let's hear it. It's not like I didn't go digging for the best facts right now because honestly, again, a lot of facts about like war and going in here and there and whatever. So in 56, 1956, we experienced the rise of rock and roll Elvis Presley. Like he was born in 1956? No, he actually it said one of the songs. Wait, let me guess. No, I don't I'm not gonna know it. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

Come on. What does it start with? Heart Heartbreak Hotel. There you go. Oh, really? Yes. Guys, I'm such an Elvis fan.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

And then Rock and Roll boomed with hits by Chuck Berry and Little Richard. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Do you know any Little Richard songs? I couldn't name them, but if they came out, I might go, maybe this is him? This might be him. Yeah, yeah. Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

Um are you a big rock and roll girl? Would you say? Rock and roll. What is rock and roll right now? Right now. What is modern rock and roll? I would I mean, like, is like Maroon 5 rock? That's the closest maybe to rock, I guess. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Like I really never once thought about it, to be honest. I feel like there's punk rock, which is more modern. Like old rock and roll kind of turned into punk rock for a while, which now has become like metal was in there. Like these are all variances, I feel like, to the traditional rock and roll. But now I just don't think people are using rock and roll as a term. I don't think rock is a version of music. Maybe it is. I hang on. Who's rock? Who's the heaviest, heaviest or best rock artist of 2025? I would like to know that. Okay. Heaviest, you say best, best rock artist 2025.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Yeah. Do you have a guess? No. Top rock artist in 2025 Span Legacy X. Yeah, okay. So that's not what we're saying. No, we're talking about. No, not what we're talking about. Um, they're saying things like Bruce Springsteen. I need like modern pilot. Oh, 21 Pilots. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:25

Okay, so modern rock. 21 Pilots is a really good answer, actually. Yep. That's probably also do you know the band Motion City Soundtrack? Yes. You still listen to them a lot in high school.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:36

Okay. I was.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

Are they still around?

SPEAKER_00 9:39

Are they still around? I'm so glad you asked. They are. Didn't know that either. And to be fair, I didn't know they existed to begin with. That's not true. I'd heard of the name, but I thought.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Like, why did you hear that?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

Um, The Love of My Life. Okay. Awesome. I love that. Yeah, we like made a playlist. Sorry, that's not true. One of you made a playlist. We each made playlists separately, but we didn't know. No, we didn't know that we were each doing it, which is like really crazy. And we had like the same songs on them. What? Isn't that random? Except for Motion City soundtrack. Well, I had it on there because we listened to it on our first date.

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Cute.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

So like, and I I again didn't know the song at all.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

I I just want to say a couple things. You get five loves of your life this year. That still stands. The internet knows it's out there. Uh, this is your first one of the year, right? Okay. Because the other one came in from 2025. Also, it's fake. Which is about. Um, one you were seeing not that long ago. Um, hold on. I don't feel like that should count. Who is it? It shouldn't count. Are we talking about Peter Pettigrew? Nope. We did not talk about this individual on the pod.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

Oh, yeah, we can't count that one. The one that started last year? Yes. Yeah, certainly not. Okay. Technically, technically.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:59

That one doesn't count because he is already still, he was already at the love of my life.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

Let's do some follow-up later. We got some things to clarify. I can't go down that road with the public, but with you, we will clarify later. That's so fair. I totally forgot about that. I made the love of my life, my current husband. Uh-huh. I'm not saying that this will get you there, but I made him a playlist when he and I started dating again, and then he shared with me around the same time. Like it was like, listen to this, I may do this. And we were sharing music, which is things I think a lot of people do. Sure. But a lot of people don't do that until you start like wanting to share music with people. Here we go. You know? And once you start wanting to, I think that means that they are a true love of your life.

SPEAKER_00 11:42

That's all I'm just backing up your No, I don't disagree. Now, given the certain the situation we find ourselves in right now.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

What situation is that? He just like left the state forever. He's gone. He's gone. He's gone. No timeline for coming back. I hate that for me. I hate it. He really has no idea. Like, did he say within the next year? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

That's what I mean. Yeah, but yeah. Yeah. Okay. Year, Carly, of course.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Well, I don't know. If he went and he's like, I have no idea. Like, see you when I see ya.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah. No, I would never, I would never, never, ever, ever.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

No, like we're not hanging out anymore talking. Like, if that's how you're gonna view this. Okay. So you and the love of your life. I mean, we're kind of getting into happy crappy territory here because obviously the love of your life is still around. I assume that makes you happy. He's not technically around. He's not around. He's gone around in your life.

SPEAKER_00 12:35

He's not here in the great state of Michigan. No. Yeah. He is not. Um, do you want to get into happy crappy? Is that what you're saying? I'm saying, tell me about your happies and your crappies car. Okay. Yeah, I would say my happy and crappy both involve the love of my life. Um so last year.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

You need to come up with a name for him too. Don't just fall in love with my life. You're right. Let me think. Yeah, we had one last year. I don't want people to get the F.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Let's call him.

unknown 13:03

Gosh.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

I was gonna say Tony, we can't do that. No.

SPEAKER_01 13:06

Um can we start with a P?

SPEAKER_00 13:09

We can now. We can't but not Peter, okay. Um Paul. No? Okay. Um What about something like insane? Like uh Patchouli. Patchouli. Patchouli's a good one, actually. Yeah. Patchouli and I. Um, if you recall, patchouli and I went on our first date a week ago, over a week ago now. Over a week, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Which after talking for a little bit too, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:34

Yeah, we had been talking for two or three weeks at that point. Um every day talking. Um we uh went on our first date last week. We went to the bar to watch the Bears Packers game, the Bears won go Bears. Great time, great energy, great conversation. Love it. One of my favorite first dates of all time. Right. Um better than the date we had on New Year's last year? That's a really good question. That's a really good question. It was about even, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

I'm one I was wondering the way you were talking about it. Because that was a really good date.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

Really good date, yeah. About even. Cool. I love this. Okay. So that if that helps you figure out where I'm at in life right now. I understand your skepticism.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

That's all I'm gonna say. I I don't want you to have it, but I get it.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Um, and so uh we make plans for this following, the following Saturday to go to the silent disco that's happening downtown in the city we live in. World of winter, world of winter. And make plans for that. Yep. TBD, because he's le he's supposed to be leaving to go on a trip to a work trip the next day, Sunday, today. Yep. For who knows how long. Right. Um, so I'm like, we don't have to do this. Like, we'll talk, we'll figure it out. He's like insistent on doing it, like, we're gonna do it. I wanna tell you, like So we make these plans for Saturday, yeah, and I like and we're still talking and we talk every day. Like I text him, I'm like, this I text him on maybe Monday, and I'm like, hey, I know we have plans for Saturday, but like what if we just did something else sooner too, just in case Saturday doesn't work out. Like with you leaving the next day, we just don't know what's happening. I just like don't want to I feel bad like making you just in case. And he's like, I would love to. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

That's precious. Yeah, I'm like, oh I would love to. Not just yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

No, he's and his energy has been very much, it's been very reciprocal. It's matched. Yeah. And so we decide on music bingo on Wednesday. Yeah, you said it didn't happen. Yeah, they just we went there. There was just a music bingo. I don't know. And like no announcement or like no announcement, but they also it was like pretty empty. So like I just think they didn't there weren't people there, so like they just like decided to.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

They just nixed it, and then they didn't announce it because there weren't people there.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Nobody's here for this anyway.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

So Okay, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Yeah, so we would it was still like we still went there and we like had a great time, had a good conversation. He it was just as good. At first I asked him, like, is there any thought of you that was like the first date was a fluke, the second one's gonna be so miserable and like it's gonna be so awkward? And he's like, I wasn't thinking that until you just said it.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Like, and like now it's not a thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

It's not a thing. Like it was the second date was just as good, like, if not better. Um, he walked into my car and like Did you guys kiss? We did kiss. Okay. You know I don't usually kiss until like at least date three.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

But we're in love. We're in love. Love makes us do things. Honestly.

unknown 16:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

So that was date two. Yeah, we kissed. So we kissed on date two. Yeah. It was probably one of the best first kisses I've ever had. Like and it was electric. It felt like it was like sparks, truly. Like I kiss my person.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Maybe. We'll know with time.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Well, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Let the record show that she knew now. Like if something happens. If he listens to this episode, he's gonna be like, just bitch is crazy. Before you guys get married. I'm joking. Joking. Okay, but it's really fun to like fun. Again, this is stuff. I love that. I love this. I'm dreaming.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

It's a dream. We're all dreaming lately. Just a dream.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Yep. But it was a good date, and we're honoring that. Yeah. And then you kept date number three, which was getting together, silent disco last night, world of winter. Yep. How was it? It was so fun. It was so cold outside.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

We walked there. So like it's downtown. Oh, you walked there? That's kind of a long. It was maybe 20, 20 minutes, so 20 minutes. We ran into my friend Delane Joe. Hi, Delaney Joe. Good to see you. Always a good time.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Um, so she got to meet him, which uncomfortable for third date. Carla doesn't introduce her peaks. Like, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

I never do, never do. And like, if you know, like if I'm someone who like I'm big into PDA, like in public. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

So like So running into somebody is your nightmare because now And I still and it didn't stop me.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

And I'm she's someone I'm no has seen me make out with people before. So like it's like not a big deal.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

What's your version of PDA though? Like walking through the park with him? Like, is it holding hands? Is it leaning on him? Is it kissing? Is it all of the above?

SPEAKER_00 18:12

All of the above. I mean, it's not like past like kisses. Yeah. Arm around the waist, giggly, like turn into a little like.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

I have a crush. Like it is like very much like that. Yeah. Adorable. Yeah. Hate that she got to see it, but you know. Especially because like he left the country.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Not the country, just Michigan. So you guys went to this, you went into Delaney Joe. All goes good. He came back.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

Yes, we got an Uber home because I just simply couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

Were you guys drinking or anything too down to? A drink.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

A drink there. So they dipped in the side. We also had um yeah, there was like a drink, like a bar, and there's food truck people too. Um so we would go home and then just like kind of hang out and um so we had taken partaking in an um adult recreational uh uh fruit snack vitamin, a fruit snack. An adult fruit snack. Um so like we were already like in like a very mellow vibe. So we're just like chatting, listening to music, like just chilling out.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

You know, we were cold, we're warming up. Did you have some hot chocolate?

SPEAKER_00 19:17

No, I have fruit snack. That would have been so good. I had hot chocolate too. I could have always afterwards. Maybe it wouldn't have been. I'll get there. Um I can't wait.

SPEAKER_02 19:27

It's gonna be so bad.

SPEAKER_00 19:29

Um uh and so yeah, we ended up going because he had to he is up, he had a flight Sunday morning. Yep. His flight started boarding at 6.25, so we had to be at the airport. We left my house at 4 30. I was taking him to the airport. I took him to the airport. Aw. He's gonna Uber, that's rude. I know. After a moment of intimacy. After a moment of intimacy. Mm-hmm. We were just like snuggling for a long time. Like we go to bed at like probably 9 30, 10 o'clock. Okay. So there's hours to like we're just Still chatting, like Simon. It's not like it's midnight and we're going into the wee hours. No, it just we're just chatting. I'm laying down. He rolls over. Yep. And sits up. Yeah. All of a sudden he's like, I just got like a really big thing of heartburn. And he gets up and I'm like, Are you okay? I'm like, and he's like, I just like have to, I just need to like relax real quick. I'm like, okay, what does that mean? Like, what does it mean? What is this? And she's like, I just get me. I'm like, are you gonna are you gonna throw up? Yeah. Like And I was like, he's like a bucket? He's like He's like, I'm I might I'm like, okay, get out of my room. Like, go, go throw up. He literally Carly, after a moment of intimacy, if you know what that means, throws up. Your repulse has never been grossed out more grossed out by my body. Like I literally wanted to die. I like and didn't even not want to die. Didn't make it, like he made it out of my bedroom and he didn't make it to the bathroom. He like threw up in my kitchen sink. And I'm like I uh I genuinely was like, this is not happening. And like I heard it. And like also, thank God for the cameras. Yes, Carly. Thank God for the cameras. Did you watch it? Did you I watched it? No, I didn't, no, no, no. I watched it this morning. Just to like I just wanted to see what the cameras got. Obviously.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

And at this point, is he fully clothed? Or is he fully undressed?

SPEAKER_00 21:31

Fully undressed. Naked man through my couch. Throws up in my sink. There's dishes in my sink. He threw up, he throws and like my dishes are soaking in sink in like dishwater. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

Because us girls with ADHD go, hey, they're gonna soak. Yeah, they're soaking. I don't have a dishwasher.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

So like we'll come back. Yeah. And he pukes. He pukes in the sink. And I'm like, What next? I I I hear it happen and I'm like, no way.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

We're gonna let him handle that one.

SPEAKER_00 21:59

But and I was like, You okay? Like, you alright? And I come out, like I like put socks on because like I felt like I heard something hit the carpet, and I realized that like what noise would that have been? Like what would I have heard? But like also I'm not willing to risk it. At this point, we're gonna have to go. I don't want to step on anything wet. I just don't want to step on anything wet. Yeah. Carla, you have no idea.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

Jason, if he heard this, saw this, was we're in your position, he would have been vomiting, he would have been gagging.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

I'm also a sympathy puker. Not a sympathy puker, because I don't throw up because throwing up is gross, so I just like don't do it. Um, like just he was so embarrassed. He was like And like he didn't fully make it to the sink either, so like it was like on my counter-a little bit of dribble or whatever. Like, not just remote chunks. Oh, he full on threw up threw up, like threw up after an intimate moment looking at my body. What'd he say afterwards? Where do we go from here? Yeah. He was like, This has never happened before, and I'm like, oh, that doesn't really make me feel any better. But um, like yeah, it's never happened to me either, just to be clear, like I've also never had anyone throw after you. I too have never had any. This is also like a new situation for me. He's like, uh I'm like, Are you okay? Do you need anything? He's like, um, he's like, Yeah, I'm fine. I'll just like we can just like go lay down. I'm like, first of all, do you want to take a shower?

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Or yeah, we're gonna brush our teeth, clean us up. Like, what's the vibe?

SPEAKER_00 23:28

He's like, I'll I'll he like so he he put his hand like drained my sink. Thank God because there's really uh I don't I don't wanna and like he I'm like okay, I have towels, like you can shower real quick. Like I'm like, dude, there's a little um vomit like in your beard here. Like, I don't know if you wanted to clean it up too. So I grabbed a towel and I'm like started to clean up like on the floor, and I'm like, I don't know what to do. Like I'm dying is my nightmare. But like also such a human moment because and like I there's nothing I could do but laugh. I'm cracking up. It's really the funniest thing to me because you ever had heartburn?

unknown 24:08

No.

SPEAKER_00 24:08

I thought it was me that said you have no idea. I don't know, heartburn, I don't know, acid reflux. I don't know what any of that feels like.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

So, like to me. And I grew up with a dad who had issues with that, and like also like a narrow passageway. Jason, the other day, he's like brushing his teeth, and then he gets done and he goes, Carly, I'm so gaggy. You don't even know. He goes, if I open my mouth, stick my tongue out, and just breathe in, I'll puke. And he jokingly did it. What? He threw up a time, like it's not like a full stomach worth of vomit. But he gags up like actual He can't hack things up, he can't like crop stuff. So when he gets that, he gets very heebie jeeby.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

And it is It's just the weirdest thing. Like, how does that? I just like uh and so like now I'm like he's so I'm like, okay, what do you got? And he's like, Okay, I'll just like hop in the shower real quick. I'm like, okay, there's like body wash and there's like towel. Do you need a washcloth? He's like, no, I usually use one.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Okay. I just want to say he's also white. He's a white man.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

If that makes any difference, I'm just like, I didn't assume you did, but some of us. I do have some if you need one. Like, I do use one every single time. But if you don't use one, whatever. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

If you wonder where the washing context comes from, just don't go back to a year ago.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Yeah, don't other video. Please. Please don't. Me. Yeah, yeah. So he takes a shower. Yeah, and so while he's in the shower, I'm like trying to clean up, but I'm like, I'm covering, I'm like this. It's like, like, really? Car handle. It smells like vomit. I'm like, every time, like, I can't, like, I have to like keep stepping away because like the smell of it is really making me. You gotta step away from the smell of it.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

No, I can't. I can handle my kids' puke. Like, I can do anything kid related. Because you got to. You care for them like a pet, you know.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah, if my dog's throwing up, I have no issues. My dog's shitting. Yep. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

But another adult, like a human, a grown-up?

unknown 25:58

A grown up.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

What? My sick. So important question. Couple follow-ups. Uh-huh. I know there's gotta be more to this. And you said that this came after a moment of intimacy. Was there another moment of intimacy following this disruption? So yes. I get it. I'd just be worried that you would puke again.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

You had to know though. Wouldn't you need to know if that was gonna happen? No, it's not. Because is it me?

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Is it let's try this again and let's do it.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

I just need to know. And then after it said the second moment, it went to me. I'm like, how are you feeling? Like, were you you feel like you need to throw up again? You need to vomit. Like, do you need to how bad is it? I I told him, like, just to be clear, I do have a trash can over here. Like, I could have just grabbed the trash can and could have brought it. I was literally sitting right next to me in bed.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Like, but it's easy to forget in the moment. Yeah, I was like, I was panicked.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Because if he had thrown up on me, Carly, yep. He would literally had gotten off and gotten up just in time. Like, I would have lost it. I really I would have been pissed if he had thrown upon me.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Here's the thing with like heartburn and acid reflux, too. If you're in a horizontal position, whether that's sleeping, intimacy, if it's anything, then you get jostled around on top of it. Like it can be a very disruptive feeling to the esophagus and everything.

SPEAKER_02 27:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

So while it definitely feels personal, because how could it not? Of course. It's also like how uncomfortable. And I'm sure he felt just he wanted to die.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

Yeah. He wanted to die. I'm sure I would have wanted to die as well. But truly, I would have wanted to die too. But truly, we like as an empathetic person myself, I too would have wanted to jump off a fucking bridge. Like I would have been like, of course. This is my final scene. He was like, he was like, is that is that the end of this? Like, are we ever will I ever hear from you again? And I'm like, I don't really know. Honestly, like.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

I don't really know. And instead, she's like, yes. Obviously.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

Obviously. Like, how rude of me to be like. Yeah. No.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Carla, this is wild. Isn't that the craziest thing you've done? That is crazy. And also for you to not be so icked out. I'm icked out, just to be clear. I I know, but you can't do it. If you happen to do this, but truly like of course. You're not like that was hot.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Like no, yeah. Yeah. I hate puke, just to be clear. Like, but like, I'm past it.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

Look at you. I'm so proud of you.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Such a crazy thing to have happen. I was, I'm, I still I'm laughing about it. So that's so funny to me.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

I just this being funny to you is so great for me because we critiqued a lot of dates this last year for minor offenses. Of course. Minor.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

If if Peter Pettigrew had done this, imagine that it's already Steve number one with the with the knife. Scooter Steve. Scooter Steve. If he had done this. Oh my god. Of course. There'd be a restraining order. Yes, he's a crazy person. He tried to kill me. With a knife and vomit. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Like, if anyone else had done this.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

No, there are a few people who like to be. You would have given him a pass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Is one of them dog man? Sorry, dogman is the one who's obsessed with my dog.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

I would've let it go. Greg. Yeah. Yeah. I would've let it go. There's a few people that would let it go. We gave him a few passes. We did I don't know why you say that. Anyways. Okay. So uh my my happy is that I um sorry. My my crappy is that I almost got thrown up on. You did get thrown up on. In my mind. Yeah, I had to clean, like it was like on my car keys. I had to like my my you know how I have my flavoring packets, my water. It was like in that cup that I have my mystery.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

You have to throw all of that away. Yeah. It was like It's gone. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

So um that's my happy crappy. My crappy is also that he's gone, and like I don't know when I'll see him again. And like it felt it feels like I told him this, it feels like I was in like a romance novel. Yeah. And like that, this is just like it was just like a whirlwind romance, and like this is just and now it's done. Yeah, it sucks.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

And maybe we'll run into each other in 10 years after we're both married. Yeah. You know how sometimes in books. No, for sure. I get it. I'm gonna wait 10 years. No. And he said he'll be back within the next year.

SPEAKER_00 29:59

He said in like it could be a month. I get it. That's too long. That's too long to wait. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

Like you're not waiting. You're just not like you're not putting your life on hold, but you're like, you can still look forward to seeing him in a month or two. You can still chat with him and connect with him and like FaceTime. I can't go from like three dates in one week, whirlwind, to a month apart.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I really don't know that I can. Like that's that's and that's at the low end, right? A month. Yeah. Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Yeah. Could it be two? Maybe. Could it be three? I don't know. How far has he given himself to like said two months is the most the most I've heard.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

Okay. That's like a summer. I mean. Okay. Are you going a summer? Okay, you have. But like that's different. It's just different. Yes, Carly, it's different. It's different. I'm sorry. It's different. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Have some fun while there's some distance.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

Like I'm going to keep dating, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

You should come on the cruise. What? He's working. Bao is gonna not be able to get on the ship because he didn't do the paperwork. That's all we're hoping for.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

I'm I'm banking on that you get the room alone.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Yeah, I really am.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

Sorry, Bao.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Have fun flying back. I don't know what to tell you. I'm just saying, if you have the chance to bring Patchouli on a cruise, you should. Okay. He's busy, like he's not gonna be able to make it. So I don't know. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

So a happy and a crappy, all wrapped into one. I feel for you. Yeah. Ben, I it's funny.

SPEAKER_00 31:29

I've never, I've never this is a new feeling. I'll just say that. Yep. This is a new feeling this quickly. This reciprocal.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

But also this could just be like being love bombed too. Like I really it could be. We still at the end of the day, this is still a man.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Yeah. We're still leaning into it and having fun with it and also being skeptical. Yeah. In the sense of like, if the past tells us anything. Remember, I was dating a guy for like a month and a half whirlwind thing. He's the one who had been like just had separated with his wife, but had lied about it. Thought we were great, and then one day he just like fell off the face of the earth, and I was like, What did I do? I did nothing. It took me a long time to figure that out. But yeah, yeah. Well, I'm so glad that you had a romantic, intimate, vomit-filled last evening together before he left not the country and not forever, but Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. I miss you already, Patrick. Just know that. I love that. I love his nickname. Um, did you have anything else you want to add to your happy and crappy? Um, no, not particularly. That was it.

SPEAKER_00 32:41

That's your I was sick this week.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Yeah, everybody was sick this week. That's actually on my crappy, one of my kids being sick. Yeah. Being home from school. Um, him, Jason called out of work. I had to call out to take care of everybody. Our poor other, our youngest, who's like, I guess I'll go to school, mom. Everybody hates me. You're kicking me out of the house. I'm like, buddy, you're fine. Like you're not sick. I'll pick you up later and I'll buy you a treat and like let you play the claw machine. Just like go to school. And he did. Um, I got my hair cut, which I don't know. I don't know, Car, these braids are little. They're not. It's okay. It's now that it's drying. It's cute. It's still cute. They're like, it's like back in October when Jay and I went to, or two Octobers ago when we went to Punta Cana. I had braided my hair in the humidity, like shriveled up. It says shredded. Shriveled. Um it's cute.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

I think it's cute, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

I believe how quickly that dried. It's still wet. Okay. Oh, it's soaking wet. It's not soaking wet. Wanna feel it? No, not particularly. Not particularly. Um, so I put, yep, my haircut, and just like trying to solve some big life questions right now. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot going on. Um, and we'll talk about it at some point, I'm sure. Yeah. But like right now, we're just figuring out what our family wants out of life and trying to move in that direction. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe some big things happening, maybe not. Maybe, you know what? Maybe we should let Listen Bitch tell us. I was thinking the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

I'm really gonna let Listen Bitch guide us this year on a few on a few things.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

This entire year. Now, this one in the front should be the one we already did. Should be the one we picked from last time, and then this one, and so that one is the one. And I will, I told you I'd make these better for next time, I promise. Like what ones we've read. Alright. Um, this is the new deck of listen bitch cards. It's round two. We did these last year, we're doing them again, and they are guiding our life. Yeah. Yep. And I love that. Ooh. Oh shit. Oh god. This one's gonna stop you in your tracks. Me specifically? I think. Kill me. Not in a bad way. In a oh, that's deep way. Okay. Listen, bitch. Stop wasting time obsessing over the things that make you feel small. Any thoughts? Um How many things have tried to stop us in this last like year or made us feel small or like less than? And like so many things. And we're getting better about, I think, total, like handling those. And well, you said this year you want to crash out less, right? Yeah. Stop wasting time obsessing over the things that make you feel small. Okay. It's it's still January, so I know.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

We're doing so good so far though.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Okay. So good.

SPEAKER_00 35:36

You think? I think so. Do you? I uh think I'm doing less crashing out. No, okay. Yeah, actually, yeah. Yeah. I actually think I'm handing a lot of situations better than I normally would be. Ooh. I I do think so. What do you think you can attribute that to? Um probably like maybe maybe along with some of the growth I did last year, it being so fresh, and then you're remembering like where I'm like where I'm headed. Yep. Maybe like what I wanted to accomplish. The intentionality behind it. Yeah. I've been using that word so much lately. That I think is what I wanted to switch mine award of the award of the year to is intentionality. Yeah? Yeah. My boss told me that. She's like, that sounds like more of a fit for you this year, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Really? Yeah. It's come up so much for me, and it's great that it's like resonating. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. Interesting. Interesting thought that you brought that up too. I'm gonna keep mine a Zen, but like in the background, I think intentionality could be a good like remember to do this with this lens.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

Hmm. Huh. Hmm. Yeah, good to know. Like it. Stop wasting time obsessing over the things that make you feel small. Are there is there a lot of people feel small? Yeah. Why are we doing it?

SPEAKER_01 36:50

It's not worth it. Yeah. And if other people are making you feel small, then why are they like why are you putting that making them so big in your life? Why are you giving them that much power? We give people a lot of power on like our emotions and how we perceive things. I've been trying really hard to just be an open communicator about how I feel because I don't want there to ever be hidden agendas about things, but like small stuff can hurt.

SPEAKER_00 37:16

Yeah. Yeah. I've learned that a lot in the last couple weeks that like things that even things that I consider small maybe aren't as small as other people. Yes. Which like obviously I think you can probably guess what situation I'm talking about. Yeah. Like something that I considered like not a big deal really hurts somebody else. And that obviously was never my intention. But like I the things I'll just say this, the things that you do matter. Yep. Even if you're not doing that on purpose. I think doing them on purpose. So it's just important but like I also I also feel like you can't do it do everything with that in mind. You know what I mean? You can't make decisions. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

But you can say, I'm gonna make a strong intentional decision that backs up my goals in life or whatever. Yeah. And that may have effects or outcomes different than what I thought.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

And you have to be okay with that outcome.

SPEAKER_01 38:09

Yeah. And and like be ready to not defend it, but to like back the fact that it's it is what it like it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

You trust you believe in what you did.

SPEAKER_01 38:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

And that that is something that I feel confident in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:22

Oh, I love that. Yeah. I love that. Hmm. Look at your wheels spinning. Totally. They're spinning. I brought a couple topics. I know you also had like a I subject. Yeah, mine's short. Let's start with yours before we get into my heavy stuff. While you're pulling it up, can I actually share one thing? Of course. Um, you know how I had an analogy, I think, on the podcast with you about how like my brain when I'm having ADHD moments and I'm going down rabbit holes, like I always think about hallways with doors or like there's always like some flash for me to like get back to where I started. I'm trying to do that with little shit too, even tasks around the house. Like it's so easy for like middle-aged moms with ADHD to be like, what was I doing? Laundry, this, that, whatever. Well, I'm having a deep conversation with Jason the other day, and it happens again. And it was the most beautiful visualization I had about like tree branches and like growing on all these little different pathways my brain was taking me.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

And it helps so much because I was able to come right back down to the roots. Like, where do we start? And I was like, ooh, visualization. So I don't know if anybody that listens if you like visualizations, but lately I've been trying to use very positive ones in my head as I speak and like what they are. It was just nice to use a tree and like branches for what was happening.

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Yeah. Do you feel like if you do like, can you do that for most situations, like most most things?

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Things, yeah. I think so. It helps me compartmentalize of like I'm going down a rabbit hole, but I this is important. Or, like I've said before, if if I'm visualizing a hallway, is this a door I'm willing to open up when I open it. Up, can I shut it? Can I back out? But like the tree in branches was a very like positive, like, hey, it's always here, it's always a path I can come down again. But like I've been trying to challenge my own perspectives on stuff. Jason and I have been having some great conversations about the state of the world and what that looks like. And my brain is pinging constantly. Yeah. And there are so many avenues where I can feel small, where I can feel like what am I doing right now? But like trying to have these positive visualization things as I go. It's been so I just wanted to share that with you. It was a fun one. And as soon as it happened, I'm like, I'm gonna tell Car about this. I love that. Because like this happened last year with the doors and the yeah.

unknown 40:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

What's something that makes you feel big? Ooh. Like where you don't feel small in the world, but you feel like your presence is like um, I don't know that there's any one thing that I can say makes me feel like in my power or my element or big, but I think remember that that uh song we've talked about a few times, most girls are strong and smart and beautiful and all the things. I kind of try to like look at the world that way. Like most people don't want to beat me, they don't want to beat you, they don't want to be better than somebody else. They want to just like live their life very beautifully. Yeah. And like when I feel like that, I feel big and I feel like I matter. But when I start like looking at the world like it's just people standing on other people's backs, I feel small.

SPEAKER_02 41:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:26

But then also backpacking sometimes. I feel like I'm very small, but then I also feel like how many people have been here where I'm at? And I feel like very I love that.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

Interesting. What about you?

SPEAKER_00 41:38

Do you have anything that makes you feel like um I have been very much into the idea of like main character energy lately. Ooh. And like who uh how many people do I feel like I'm the main I'm a main character in their lives? I wouldn't say there's like a ton of people. I uh maybe like a handful though. You know that I'm on that list. Yeah. Yeah. I do feel like I'm the main character in your life. Um I think uh Yeah. I so in and in that in that terms, I think like it makes you feel rich in your own way. Exactly that. That's the exact way I would put it. I wouldn't have ever come up with that term, but yeah, exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

Just until I said it out loud. It doesn't matter. It was perfect, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:17

Perfectly worded. It makes me feel rich in that way. And like, I don't feel rich most ways. Yeah. Financially, especially, obviously. Especially financially. I get I get that. But like, so like it's really it's very it's it's it's cool to know that like I feel I know that I'm important in some areas. Like especially like as like a single person, like a single person, no kids, like who like does most of my life alone. Yep. And like being surrounded by mostly people who aren't single and like don't do life alone. It's it's very refreshing to remember that like even though I don't have a person, I have people.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

That you are a person that matters to so many people. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:03

Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah. I mean I can I can just a thought. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

I like that though. Like what makes you feel rich? Yeah. And like important and like there's nobody else that's you, but yet you hold just as much value as anybody else. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What makes you guys feel rich? Just curious.

SPEAKER_00 43:22

What makes you guys feel rich? And is it a thing or is it a person? Is it a group of people? Huh. Is it your dog? My dog makes me feel rich. I was gonna say, yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes when I want to just exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

Exact. I don't know who what rich person you thought you like were owned by.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

But we don't got that money over here. Stop eating so many treats. All right. What do you got for me? You got a hot take or something, right? What is it? Recently discovered the alcohol industry has lost over$830 billion in the last four years. Because say that number again.$830 billion. Okay, because why? Because the millennials and Gen Z are drinking way less than past generations. Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Now I have a proposition. Why don't we bring back Thirsty Thursdays? I miss those days. I miss those dude. Like Thirsty Thursdays were so fun. And like it makes me sad that like Gen Z is just like not participating in it.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

I am in some central pages because I went to CMU, obviously. A lot of people drank, especially when I was there. I didn't as much. I didn't do my drinking phase till after college. Sure. Yeah. And I was a mess. We've had our days. We've had our days. Yeah. But um, I have seen lots of people posting about like, remember this at the wayside and this here and that. And I'm like, I don't remember it, but I know that that was very our generation, like or people right before us. And now it's just what do you guys do? Like, what does Gen Z do instead? Like smoking pot.

SPEAKER_00 45:01

So are we. You know what I mean? Yeah, just kidding. Playing board games, going on dates. I don't know. What are they doing? Y'all just it's just like a culture, like a thing y'all just aren't doing like they're not doing. It was a rite of passage previously. It was. You'd go out Thursday night, even like painting a little skirt. So you have a little like your cute high heels and like mini skirts with in the weavings.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Around when we turned 30. And I would go out and like booty shorts, bitch. I had a good pair of booty shorts. They were great. Listen, they zipped up my side once, and I was like, fuck you. Listen. Yeah, I get that. I wish I hadn't gotten rid of them. It's okay. It's fine.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

We can always get more booty shorts. Trust that.

SPEAKER_01 45:45

Yeah, and they're probably like better now.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Of course.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

Yeah. Of course.

SPEAKER_00 45:50

But like, let's bring back. I just miss like those days. Miss having like going out with your girls. Uh-huh. Kelsey and I used to go out on Thursdays to McFadens. We could go$2 you call it for like ladies' nights. That was a long time ago. They stopped having all of it. McFadden's doesn't even open anymore. No, no. Yeah. And like you would go get so drunk.

SPEAKER_01 46:11

And good dive bars.

SPEAKER_00 46:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:13

But now I think a lot of places have made it an experience.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

And that's not necessarily not every place needs to be an experience. Experience can just be a good idea. Is that home breweries? Breweries, distilleries. We've got enough of those. Yeah. We've got plenty. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Or self-proclaimed, like brew city, whatever, beer city. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

Some of us don't drink beer. Yeah. You know? Right. Exactly. That's enough. I'm good with that. Like, I just feel like it's just like a such a such a fun thing that we used to do. And I get that like people can't afford to do that as much anymore. And the cost of alcohol. It's not cheap anymore. Yeah. It's just like not.

SPEAKER_01 46:48

I went to Canada when I turned 18, I think. 19, 20. Sometime when I was in college, I went to Canada. And the drinking age there is obviously what 18 or at the time it was. I don't even know what it is now. Yeah. But they had little test tube shots for like a buck. This totally. Like you could go and take five bucks and have five drinks and then go home. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:09

Now you can, I mean, you can probably get pr I could probably get pretty drunk on fifty dollars. Yeah. No, I could get drunk on fifty dollars. Let me stop. I could definitely get drunk. I could get drunk on fifty couple running jokes. Good and drunk on fifty dollars, honestly. But like it's just like nothing. But not five or ten. But it's also like people aren't willing, no offense to you. Yeah, go ahead. People aren't willing to go out anymore.

SPEAKER_01 47:30

I hate that for me. Here's the thing. I've told you to invite me how many times.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Here we go.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

No, the night that Kelsey was here. Kelsey, I love you. The night she was here and you two went out, and I was like, let me know if you go anywhere. No one ever let me know. And you did go somewhere. We went to watch the Bears game. Were you gonna come out and watch the Bears game with us? I would have had I been invited. I didn't look at your location until later, and I'm like, You were invited, just to be clear.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

You knew we were going out.

SPEAKER_01 47:53

You could have followed up. Nope. You girls never said anything. And I said, let's knew we were going? I said, I'm not gonna go. Let me know where you land. I might join you. And then Okay, anyways, I am willing to go out. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

I don't want to drive in Michigan winters. Okay, so here come here come the excuses now. My that's my point. Like people are like are not willing to do things, not you specifically, but like I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

People are like not willing to like deal with the barriers that were always there now seem impossible to climb.

SPEAKER_00 48:23

Exactly that.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Is that because we're exerting so much energy on keeping the world together right now? Our world?

SPEAKER_00 48:29

I don't know because I feel like there's always been stressors, right? Like, and like to me, for me, that this is a stress relief. Like going out on a thresher net and getting a little drunk with your girls is a stress relief for me. It's not for everybody, I can acknowledge that. Like it's just like not as fun for other people as it is for me to like go out dancing.

SPEAKER_01 48:49

Or for people that get hung over.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

That's my big stress.

SPEAKER_00 48:52

I get hungover too. Yeah. To me, it's worth it though. Like for me, I I can again. Hell yeah. I can acknowledge it. Like it's not the same for everybody. So like I'm just saying, speaking from my experience, like it is something that like I enjoy going out, getting drunk. Yeah. And like I want I wish we could still do that. I'm so I'm I'm we well, you don't want to go out in the winter.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Would you like to go out this week? Not today. Well, today I asked you to come wine drinking with Yeah, but I already have plans. You do? The Bears game. But on the way back home. The Bears game. What are you talking about? What time is the game on? 6 30. Yeah, we would be going. Like, look, the girls are ready to go. We could go as soon as this is done. Right, but we are not done yet. Let's wrap it up. Okay. We got wine to go. I'm gonna get drunk with Carla today, everybody.

unknown 49:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 49:46

Oh, now she doesn't want to get drunk. Sure. You're not gonna get drunk. Let's be clear. You're not going to get drunk at the wine place.

SPEAKER_01 49:53

I the other day, I hadn't eaten yet. What was I? What did I have to drink? I had a rum and coke. I had something. I started to feel it in my legs, like tingling. Ashley and I had this conversation recently about like when we drink, I'm like, I feel tingling in my legs. She goes, me too. And then I have a drink, and immediately, and I was like, ooh, is this the buzz I've been missing?

SPEAKER_00 50:18

Telling you. Mm-hmm. So my um proposition to the world bring back Thirsty Thursdays. Yeah. Bring back fuck the breweries. Yeah, fuck. Fuck the cider mills, cideries, whatever you call them, distilleries. Bring let's go to some dive bars. If you're down, if you know me and all the good dive bars left.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

I don't know why you're thinking that. Some of my favorites. If we know you in real life, though. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

If you know me in real life and you like are down to get drunk on like a cute Thursday, maybe Friday night. I'd go this Thursday. I think I must have Thursday. I mean I work Friday, but like I don't know. Me too. Whatever. Yeah. We'll talk. I used to go out on Saturday night and then go to church on Sunday and lead worship. So like. Lead? Yep. I'd be on the worship team. Yeah, you've never seen a heathen like this before. Oh my gosh. A heathen like this. Um that was my thing. Let's bring back the Thursdays. Let's bring back the side. Let's teach Gen Z what it really looks like to have fun. Wow. If you're on board with this plan, Carly. See and Carly for president 2028. Is that right? Is that the next question? It well, it might be. Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 51:24

Yeah, we're not gonna. We'll see. Yeah. This is a road we talked about today. We're not going down that road yet because I promised the audience last week that we would talk about something.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

We discussed what we're gonna talk about last week. We said pern. We're gonna call it corn. Corn. It's just easier. Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Corn. So here's my thoughts about corn. Get us there. Yeah. All right. I teed us up last week. Jason and I had seen the movie Sex Tape. Right. I had watched it maybe when I was younger. He quoted a line from it. I said, What's that from? He says sex tape. We had a night, we watched it. It was really good. Well, it brought up a couple thoughts. Um, and now I'm so like disconnected from the movie Sex Tape and having watched it, I'm like, I don't know what the thoughts were related to that. Yeah, but it brought up thoughts. Uh and additionally, not just had that happened, but there have been people in my outer circles or people I know of um who have had some very strong beliefs about corn. And um I love calling it corn. It's really funny. It's so funny. Big corn girls. Big corn girls. No, really not. No. But uh it brought up a conversation, which I then brought up in front of another group of people that I love dearly. Yeah. And we just had a really unfiltered conversation about corn. You and I have talked about corn many times. Yeah. Uh but what I am curious about is when no, let's even take it a step back, back further. Backer. Uh, is it appropriate to watch corn in general? Yes or no, right? My thoughts are yes. Um other people might think no. There's our first question. Yeah. If you pass go, if you say yes in a logic model and you get to the next question, it's is it appropriate in the relationship you're in to watch corn? Yes or no? Some people have really strong opinions about what is considered cheating and not cheating. Okay. So here now we get into a deeper logic model of is corn cheating?

SPEAKER_00 53:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:42

And here is where we get into some really strong opinions and cheating, huh? Okay. And here is why this has come up. So I know someone who knows someone who knows someone. Sure. Yep. And their relationship is suffering because one of them suffers with corn addiction. Uh first of all, I don't know the definition of corn addiction and what makes it an addiction, right? Because some people do believe, are you believe we liken this up? Awesome. There are people that believe that watching corn, consuming corn, is addictive no matter the frequency. Right? There are people that think you watch it once, you get caught, and now you're a corn lover. Okay. Uh I just can't take this seriously.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

Yeah, that's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_01 54:38

Calling it this. And also in this context. But there are many other people that would argue that it can be a tool in relationships. And that could look a lot of ways. I'm not saying a tool that it's like a specific thing, that it helps the relationship. I'm saying, hey, honey, you are awake and you want something that I am not willing to currently give you, go hang out with some corn. Like, go have yourself a corn cob.

SPEAKER_00 55:07

Sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

Um that that is a tool and useful for a lot of people if they're just not in the mood, if they're not um whatever it is. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_00 55:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:20

Um, are you looking up stats on corn addiction?

SPEAKER_00 55:23

I'm just looking at what is considered a porn addiction. Corn addiction.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

A corn addiction.

SPEAKER_00 55:26

A corn A corn addiction is considered a compulsive behavior where a person loses control over viewing cornography, leading to negative consequences like neglecting responsibilities, damaging relationships, or experiencing intense shame, often involving escalating time spent and seeking more extreme content despite attempts to stop functioning as a coping mechan mechanism for stress or emotional distress. Okay. Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

Coping mechanism for stress or emotional distress. Heard that. Um heard corn sequences.

SPEAKER_00 56:01

Corn sequence, negative consequences, like neglecting um responsibilities, damaging relationships, or experiencing intense shame, often involving escalating time spent and sk seeking more extreme content despite attempts to stop. Okay. So like most addictions, like trying to stop and like Yeah, not being able to. What how I mean, like, how often is time spent? Like what what justifies is like This is where we get into the like Yeah, I think it's gotta be like a personal thing, then, right? Uh-huh. But is that the same as like every is every addiction personal? Like, can someone who drinks a certain amount be considered an addict and someone who also drinks the same amount not be considered an addict?

SPEAKER_01 56:46

Here's the thing though, drinking and not drinking, right? We know alcohol is not good for you.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:52

Like wholeheartedly, sure. You consume it, it can hurt your liver, it can do all these things. Like, so you you consume too much of it, you will die. With corn, I think here's the thing, everybody has a different sex drive. Yeah. Everybody has different needs. Like, those are things you have to discuss with your partner when you enter a relationship. And I think sometimes when relationships are suffering around this topic, there hasn't been enough conversation about expectations.

SPEAKER_00 57:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:23

Especially for people that get married young. Yeah. Or that are religious.

SPEAKER_00 57:27

I think that's where the issue comes in. I think if it's like that's you that's probably where you see the biggest disconnect, maybe, or what do you call it? I don't know that it is a disconnect when you're religious like if you're both religious, it shouldn't be a disconnect. You're right, sorry. But I also don't know like the heaviest opinions are coming from a conservative agenda. For sure. I d my opinion on this has definitely changed from like obviously when I was more religious versus now.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

Yes, and that's why I want your opinion.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

I uh I mean I have I used to be of the belief that like I used to not be into super into porn, like and I'm not I wouldn't say I'm super into porn now by any means, honestly. Um I'm more open. I don't know. I I don't know. I I've so I'm not someone who has ever been in a relationship with someone who's struggled with this. Right. Because and what is a struggle with it, right? Um I do know some I know some people who have partners who have struggled with them watching. Watching it. Yes, thank you. It has impacted how their sex life has been because of it. So like that's a struggle. So like Understandably so. And I think that if it's impacting how it inf how it affects your sexual relationship, then that then that is hurtful for your relationship. Right. Absolutely. And that's when it becomes an issue. Absolutely. I think that if you if you have if you have a strong opinion about it because of your religious beliefs or like moral beliefs, it's certainly a conversation you needed to have before you got married. Yes. For sure. Or like before you get into some something serious. I also think that like you need to be on the same page about it. There was a situation, um Love is blind, I want to say.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

I think it was Love is Blind.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

Like one of the couples, he was like into porn or like watched a lot of porn and she just didn't know that if you're not. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

And like Yeah, because we talked about this about how like I don't know that I would have even asked the question because I don't know that it really It's not a make or break a lot of times, but it could be break down the road if you find out that this person isn't off to spend time watching videos.

SPEAKER_00 59:42

That would bother me. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that would but I also have an issue. I'm someone who like I'm not I'm not someone who sends like romantic, like sexy pictures to people either. And I also don't like the idea of my partner spanking themselves to my images either. So, like that to me, I don't like To be sexualized in that way. Yeah. Like, I just like it just makes me feel yucky. I was to say that doesn't do anything for me. Yeah. So like and that's fair. But I also like don't want them. I think it's something that you could do together as a couple. Sure. That's something that's something different. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

Or if it's an agreement that you have that, hey, we can do it separate, we could do this together, we can enjoy it, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:22

There's communication. But I guess my follow-up question of thinking about how this often our perspective on this is shaped around religious, cultural, whatever beliefs and how we were raised. Um do you think there might be instances that people are maybe making um assumption, not even assumptions, where people are utilizing the term addiction for their benefit in manipulating the relationship and making another person feel bad about what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:56

Um there was I watched a documentary um about um let me just start this. I don't think that everybody who watches porn is a porn addict, obviously, right? Same. I would agree. Um there was a documentary I watched when I was at Kelsey's house over the holidays um about a woman who was a a real crazy lady who grew up in the Mormon church, who like was a she was like a life coach. I can't remember her name now. I was gonna say this sounds interesting. It was like very it was super recent, like it was like the family of influencers, like there were two children, they were like hiding them and like abusing them. Oh it was like really I can't God, I can't. I wish I could. If you remember it, yeah, let me know. Okay. Um and if I remember, I'll put it like I'll ask, I'll ask Babe about it. She'll remember it. But um and they were like it was she would like couple the uh counsel these these couples like through like relationships and like she was like a she was some kind of therapy advisor. Anytime she like got an inkling that the man was like into Kern. Kern. Korn. Yeah, I haven't had that one time actually. I just was at yikes. Um she would call them a sexual deviant.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:10

You know, and like label them as an addict, and like it would really that would be the that when do once that term comes into play, it can ruin it ruin the whole revolution.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:19

That is more damaging than what's actually happening. Yeah, and that's the point I'm trying to get at. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:24

Yes. I think that like we need to be careful where we put that term, obviously. On anything. Yeah. But I also I mean, I can see both sides. I think that like if it's something that you believe in. Yep. I imagine, and if it's something that like your religion sees as bad. Yep. Then like Then that's your belief. It is what it is. Correct. Follow your belief and like Correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

And I've known plenty of religious people that have said it's just corn.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:53

Yeah. And I again I I wouldn't consider myself like ultra religious at this point. Like I No. I still I would say I'm I'm a believer, but like Yeah. We can unpack that later. It's like not a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

Yeah, but like there's varying degrees of belief you are on that spectrum.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

So I but I also like I don't know. I it really would depend on the relationship and the the level of trust I have in that relationship. I think trust I mean I think about there's a couple people I think of like when I think of like this situation, um, like this this issue, and like a couple of the couples have had um one specific couple that I'm thinking of before they got married, um, there was a situation where like one of them had there was like infidelity. Yes. And uh such a good point. Like even and like they had they both were are pretty open to the idea of like watching corn, watching it together, and like what like Yeah. And then one of the people was unfaithful and everything changed.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

Yes. And now like one of the Because now what felt fun is a threat.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:00

Now like one person can't be trusted and now Now it makes everything they do where they're looking at anybody else also like probably sting and hurt.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:12

Ununderstandably.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:14

Do you think that like um when you're watching corn, not you specifically, but like when people are, yeah, it gives you more ideas, like it makes you more want to try things in a bedroom, or like I am of the belief that there's a variety of reasons you can watch corn.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:35

Yeah. And I think it definitely like opens up conversations about, oh, I've never thought about that, or oh, I might enjoy that, or oh, is that something you'd be interested in? Or just to do your own research. Like if you are someone who is in a relationship but hasn't learned yet how to talk to other people about your desires and what you want, like it is, and that's why I said it's a tool in the sense of it can open conversation and doorways, it can lead you to exploring yourself. There's also a damaging portion of that. Addiction can be very damaging, and we also know that in the industry itself, there can be a lot of issue. I'm not talking about that, right? Like the non-ethical portion of that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm talking about your average run-of-the-mill like corn.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:26

Yeah. I'd be curious. Um, we have a friend who works in the industry. Yeah. I'd be curious how it affects their relationships. Um, of course. Like, I mean, she already date non-traditionally already, so I don't know if it like if it has as big of an impact because this individual doesn't date with the religious lens of like you know meet this person, make sure they're good with my lifestyle, marry them.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:54

Like they're they're more open to non-traditional relationships.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:57

I would be curious, but I I wonder like how it does affect like Yeah. I wonder what the percentage of corn stars or people who work in the industry are like this the success rate of their relationships, or like what that looks like. Anyways.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:13

The the thought process, I had brought this up in front of you know, another trusted group of people just to say, like, what are your thoughts? Like, I heard this friend of a friend of a friend is going through this, and until we started talking about it, I forget how many people in our lives either have a hand in it, have been affected by it, have something, right? Yeah, we know people, um, and they're all on different ends of the spectrum. Yeah. And I I think sometimes we label things as being innately harmful that aren't. Sure. I think sometimes we forget that it's our responsibility to communicate with people we love about what our boundaries are and like talk to them about who they are. Yeah. Most people, I don't even want to say most people, I don't want to generalize it. I just want to say people are given opportunities to show you who they are, and a lot of times they don't feel safe doing that in relationships. If they're not talking about this and there's a disconnect with corn, a lot of times it's like a uh I'm thinking of the specific situation. Yeah. But um, there's so many things. But I was gonna make a bigger point about it at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

I'm curious what that person, like what of the the the trusted group, who was on were anyone on the same side or like were they No I mean, sort of like what we're talking about, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:36

Um and the perspective that was shared, and I was expecting this individual to be like, oh, abolish it, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:43

Like, oh, I would never have guessed that.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:45

I would have thought that, and this person was like, and we had this very open, just and they said, honestly, if a guy tells you he's never watched it, he's a liar. He's a liar.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:54

Of course. Like everyone say that about most people. I would say that about most people. Yeah. I would say that about most people, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:59

I think we're afraid of things we don't know about and a lot about.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:02

I think yeah, I think that like it's also been such especially like growing up, especially growing up in the church, it's so frowned upon that like any type of any view that like isn't like it's evil is seen as like crucify her. Do you know what I mean? So like But their sex ed program is abstinence. So I mean, so like, and that just is like let's be realistic.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:27

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

That's why.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:29

And then we often shame women through the whole process.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:32

Yeah. And yet and glorify men and forgive men. Yep. For yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:38

Yep. Um, so I personally have lots of beliefs about lots of things, but this was an interesting one to look at from the perspective of I see it tearing down some a relationship that's, you know, extended that I've seen in my circle. Sure. I've seen someone who's in the industry. I've also asked opinions about people that I thought their opinion would be something like way different than what it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:04

Was anyone else was the person that you asked that that opinion and then you had that thought was was their partner an agreement? Like we're yeah. And then what out the other person in the in the room?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:13

Like also similar, like very much a listening ear, but kind of nodding and going, yeah, like yeah, okay. Yep. And uh it's just been it's been interesting because I've been sitting with that. Like, what what makes an addiction addiction?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:28

Like, how do we belittle other people about it and make them feel like they're the only ones when also like what they're doing in a different relationship entirely might be permissible. You're just in the wrong position, you're in the wrong What do you think? I'm trying to cut you off.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:43

No, go. Um, when do you think is a good time to have the conversation?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:48

Like at the very beginning, like when you start to catch feelings, like when what like I would say once you start having some kind of intimacy with them, whether that's emotional or physical, because especially for people who are religious that might not have a big physical relationship prior to marriage. Oh, true. Um, if they're starting to get incredibly intimate thinking about marriage, you need to have the conversation, have that conversation. Yeah. Yeah. And even if and I think I don't think everybody needs to have a big conversation about it outside of like, are you open to talking about it or not? And if you're not, if both of you aren't and you like or just shut it down, cool, maybe you're well suited. But if one of you is like, no, I really I enjoy it as a tool, I like watching it, I wouldn't mind watching it with you, without you, whatever that is, and the other person shuts that down, incompatibility. Like, and you think it could never work the way I've seen it. Yeah, someone has to be flexible because typically, if someone has an issue with it, it's an issue with another person watching it. I'm not saying they're trying to control their behavior, but they're trying to exude their perspective or um make the other person see it from their angle and honor what they think is right and wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:03

Yeah. And that may not be the other person may obviously is not in agreement to that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:08

I mean, if they are, if they also see it as right or like wrong, then they might maybe they do have an addiction, or maybe they've been wanting to like change. That's a whole different thing. But interesting. If one person is like never and one is like no, I see it as okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:23

Do you think you could be in a relationship with someone who saw it as like wrong?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

Um I can I can't say that I would wholeheartedly ever say yes or no to anything. Like right, I try to leave doors cracked, but would I thrive in a relationship with someone that viewed it as inherently wrong? No. Yeah, I think same.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:47

Yeah. Again, not not even because it's a huge a part of my like a part of my life. It's just because like I just need to be with someone who's open-minded and flexible in their thinking. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It doesn't need to mean that I want them obsessed or me obsessed or it's like just it could it to me this is like not a it's not a big thing to like have a big opinion about for me personally. For me personally, correct. But I totally understand why people do. Like I'm not sure. But if my man is sneaking to the bathroom every night to pull up videos and then like not sleeping with me instead, like instead of sleeping with me, that's where we have an issue. Instead of. Yeah. Yep. That's where, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:24

Yeah. And then at that point, just tell me you want a divorce.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:27

Like clearly you don't love me. I was just gonna say that, Julie. Just say, like, you're so disgusted by me that.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Anyways. Oh, sorry. I know that this any of the topics I bring up, typically I don't have a strong, strong opinion about.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

I don't think you're so it doesn't mean you don't need to.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:54

How are people operating?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:56

I'm sorry to cut you off again. No, please. Do you feel like what about in friendships? Like if you if I were someone who had a real strong opinion about pornograp uh pornography, I don't know how the editing is gonna go on this video, by the way. It's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:10

I like if I have a wildly different view than a friend, I don't mind. It shouldn't matter. No, unless like you and I are incredibly close friends.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:20

Yeah, that would be different.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:22

I think our views need to align for us to be as close as we are. Yeah. But I have friends that I keep at arm's length that have it's just like how you have some friends, you don't tell the more intimate things that are going on in your life or you don't bring them into troubling times. Like, we all have friends that aren't always like the friend we take things to. But I would say for you and me, like we share a perspective well. We don't have to agree on everything, yeah, but we also tend to be on like if there's a divide, we tend to be standing on the same line.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:56

Yeah, like there's not really much we like have hard disagreeing. Opposing views on. Yeah. This is certainly not one. I'm trying to think having kids, that's about it. Yeah. Really? Yeah, and I to be fair, I don't oppose to you having I'm not opposed to you having kids.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:11

No, no, no. I mean, but I was a yes there for me, and you're a no there for you. They're not for you. Yeah. That's the only thing I see us ever standing so wildly separate on. Yeah. Turns out I already have children, so I can't stand on the end.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:23

And for me, like you had children when I met you. Yeah. So it doesn't. Yeah. It is what it is. Yep. Yeah. I don't know. Um What about you? I am scared to answer that question, honestly. Really? I think that like because I'm thinking about like uh different people in your life and like and like how they feel. Like I think I have some friends who like have a very strong opinion about it. Yeah. But I do too. Most of them. I guess we just we don't talk about it though. We just like have never once spoken about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

So that's a topic you don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:59

Yeah, we don't we just like don't touch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:01

Yeah, interesting. And I think we have more friendships like that than we realize, where we have certain topics that are just locked away, not because we're intentionally avoiding them. We just know we probably view it different.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:12

Like that's cool. Yeah, interesting. Yeah. What topic do you feel like you're avoiding from me? Like you keep anything from me. I don't think so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:19

I don't. I think we tend to be pretty like, even when we're talking about hard stuff, or like, what do you think about that and how we do it? We try to address. I think we're always reading into how the other person is interpreting things. For sure. And I do that with Jay all the time too. Yeah. Because we're all very self-aware, like, yeah. Am I making anyone uncomfortable? How we're coming across to people. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. What a fun topic to like dive into. Huh. What are the big things that you have to like agree with your friends on? And is this pornography one of them?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:53

Is pornography one of them? It really shouldn't be. Like it really shouldn't be like a because I always say I think we we some could see this as being too close. You know what I mean? Like Carla loves.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

Not but just in like a we we hang out a lot, she comes over a lot. Like we just like we're integrating in each other's lives. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:14

Like I was taking a shower earlier and I was like, come on in if you want to chit-chat. And I did. Like I was in there while she was showering. It just like wasn't weird. We were just puppers. Yeah. So like, but there are friendships that like I have that I know that would be very uncomfortable with me doing that. Like don't cross that.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:30

Yeah. Because the boundaries are different, and boundaries can only be created with the people that are like needing to create them.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:38

Like you and my relationship has its own set of boundaries, even someone else's does. Yes, that's true. But I think we tend to like sometimes even forget that.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:46

And like, yeah. It's hard to human these days. Totally. It's so hard to human these days. Oh. Interesting. So that's I will lock all of those thoughts away and put them in a box and just shove them to the corner. I wanted to bring it up today. I'd like to do that. Where are we going this year? Where's the pot going this year? Are we gonna start interviewing? I don't know. Industry professionals? Industry professionals. In a variety of industries. Of course. Not just the one automotive, too. Yeah, we already had.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:20

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:21

Jay was on, but like it wasn't. It wasn't this year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:24

Oh, this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:25

Last year.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:26

Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:28

It was the new year episode, so yeah, it would have been well.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:30

December 31st episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:32

Yeah.

unknown 1:17:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:33

It was. Yeah, holy crap. I know. Wow. January's making sure we feel every single day. Every it's only like halfway through. Isn't that crazy? Every day. Every other month feels like it flies by, but January, nope. Nope. It's still January 117th. It's just crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

It's the 45th day of January.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

Honestly, I'm just over it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:52

Um, and I think. Is it it? That was it. That's all I had, girl. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

I feel like that was all I have to. I could look, but it, you know. I feel like we've been talking a lot. We've been talking a lot. We're good. We're good. So that got thrown up on, so. I'm still gagging. I can't. So funny. He felt really bad. I really and I feel bad like telling the story, but like I told him I had to.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:12

I want to see how he might make it up to you. Like, is he gonna send you an edible arrangement? Flowers? You're so funny. What's the next move? You're so funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:20

I don't think I don't want to send me anything. Definitely not whatever food it is you threw up in her city. I don't know that he saw the chunks to be fair. I saw the chunks. No, no, no, no. Chunks of nope. I don't want to get I have a guess. Nope. I don't want to. I actually know what it was because I know what he ate before he came over. Let's wrap this episode up before I get ill. Oh my god. Yuck yck yuck. Anyways. Um, thank you so much for tuning in to episode 56 of Make It to Wednesday, a Humphrey Podcast. We are your hosts. I'm Carly. And I'm Carla. If you like what we're doing, you're free to like and subscribe. Give us a big old thumbs up. Follow us on all of our social media. We have TikTok, we have Instagram, we have Facebook, we don't have Twitter. I am so proud of you. Thank you. We have Tinder. I have Tinder. So swipe right. Um send us an email at makeittoWednesdaypod at gmail.com. Go to our website, makeito Wednesday.com for this year and this year only. Um send us a text message in that little description box on all of the like little the info things and the article. A box will pop up. You type in. You see it. Yeah. Is that actually did you look that up? I have no idea. I don't know. Let's try that. Later. Yeah, later. I'll get back to you. Yeah, we'll follow up. Um on our YouTube, leave us a comment. Leave us a thumbs up. Um on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts, anywhere you enjoy your podcast, give us a five star review. We really enjoy those. But most importantly, you know what you should do? You should share our shit. S O S. S O motherfucking S. Meet you back next week for episode 56. Seven of Make It to Wednesday, a hot day podcast. See you then. Bye.