Help, I Married a Gleek

Listen, we all had that one cartoon character who we were just a liiiiiitle too attracted to...right? :D well in this episode, we're digging into our gay awakenings and all about our favorite queer media!

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Welcome back to another episode of Let's Dig In. We Are Your Hosts. Matt, why are we, why are we singing? Why are we, why is this as smr? That's as smr. No, it's not a SMR. This is an as smr. Hey guys, we're having a shit day. No, you have to now have to hear about it. Tell everyone what happened. No, you have to hear about it. Tell everyone what happens. What happened yesterday?'cause I, I was having a shit day yesterday too. You've been having a shit a couple of days about why it's Gemini season. I should be thriving. No, but I think it's like a, it's like the pre Gemini season where it's like you're purging away all the things that no longer serve you and that being annoyance and annoying people, you are one of them. You had your credit card stolen. I had my credit cards. You guys, I had my credit card stolen. someone went into my locker at the gym and then opened my fucking bag and took my wallet out of the bag and then because what kind of bag do we bring to the gym, you guys? I don't have a, a good gym bag and so I've been using my. My lame croissant. Your lame croissant bag you put in the locker room in the gym. That can easily be stolen and so can easily look at you. No. No. What they say? No, they see this little gay boy walking into the locker room with a lame cross. Boy. Little, little. You're welcome. I called you little, little. Yeah. I called you skinny. You're welcome. Little gay boy. Where is, where's the lie? It's like, it's like kind of bulbous in like the right places, but also who you Yeah. Bulbus. Oh, you're talking about your lame croissant bag. Don't bring that to the gym. Yeah, I know that's dumb. I know you are a walking target. I know. But the thing is, they didn't take my lame croissant bag. They didn't take my cardholder and they didn't take my car keys. They took out two credit cards, but left two other cards so random and then I didn't notice it until I got home. I was like, oh, why is my, my, my wallet is like out. On my jacket. And that's weird'cause it must have just fallen outta my bag, whatever. Didn't think about it until I got home and then I got a notification. You guys listen, I got a notification from Capital One and it was like you have a fraudulent transaction from OB plumbing, plum plumbing. For how much plumbing? For how much money? Who's spending$2,000 on plumb? Bing. Someone had a bad poo. Someone had a bad shit. Oh my god. Maybe it was you. God, it literally was not me. Did you steal your own credit cards? No, no, no. Literally it was me to deal with your poo this morning. But like, and then that, that transaction, and I had, I saw it come through and I was like, oh my God, that's not me. And then I look, looked all around the house with the credit card in case I like put it somewhere else. Couldn't find it. Freaked out, realized I went into my other fucking app to see if that credit card had, it had been used as well for the same thing. Crazy. Why two of the same transactions to apply the exact same money. Hmm. And they're both pending, so I don't think they went through either. Mm. But I was on the phone to the banks for ages anyway. That's me complaining for a second and it just like, set me off. The adrenaline was high. Nothing like that has ever happened to me before. Really? I never had like, my wallet or like, or like, ID, I've never had, you never had your approximate charges. Never, you never had someone just like go willy-nilly on your card? Nope. That's crazy for you. No.'cause I keep my possessions apart from my randomly always lose my summer Friday's lip butter balm. Wow, that's, that's priceless. I thought that's expensive. No, it's expensive. I know. The Summer Friday's lip butter balm in shade brown sugar, which is very rare to come by these days at Sephora. Here's the motto of the story. Don't leave your lame croissant bug in your locker. What an idiot. What an idiot. I'm gonna go and yell at the, the gym tomorrow. I've got, I finished my solid core class and I, I opened my phone and it was just text from you being like, Matt, my, my, and I dunno what to do and I'm having, I could to hear you hyperventilating through. That was not the tone I use. I could hear you hyper. Oh my God. You're like, I don't know what do do. And I was like, okay. I dunno what to do. You texted me like 20 minutes ago. It was during glass. I never, I was doing my never. I had my hyper extensions. Okay. Okay. Good for you. Whatever. You're fine. Now also, you can't see this on the podcast, but I just wanna talk about it'cause I'm just like, I just wanna talk about it. Um, we changed seats again, I'm just like unhappy with the, the arrangement we have in this house. So please note the original time, the last week you changed to the couch and it was your idea, and now you've decided to change again, back to our old setup, but with different chairs. And aren't you so comfy? Like, isn't this cute? I was comfy every single other time. No, I don't like the couch. I was comfy all the time, so no, I don't like the couch anymore. Change my mind. My season is the worst. I changed my mind. I changed my mind. I changed my mind. When is it over? When is it over? I changed my mind like a thousand times a day, and so I changed my mind again and leave me alone. And that you guys is your introduction. Welcome to the table. Well, there's not a table anymore. Shut up. No one, no one needs to know we don't have a table anymore. So like what is the concept? You're, we're digging in. It's dinner. Can we have a coffee table? That's better. I. Come on, let, what's this fucking episode about? Okay, so this episode is about gay media, queer media. What the fuck is it? Yes, we discussed that yesterday. No, I know. We did discuss that yesterday. Okay. By the way, also, you guys, I'm like talking at you a lot also. That's what a podcast is. Yeah, I know. No, but I'm like, I'm talking to them as if they're here. we like really come up with like ideas like on the spot or like the day before and like this is something we're gonna do. And then only rarely, like when we really do need to plan or like have like succinct talking points. For example, when we talked about like the Grammys or like when we need to talk about, talk about things in chronological order. Not that I ever do that. Oh my God, I'm on a roll all of a sudden. Then apart from those times, we never plan anything and we just like think of a random topic and we just finished watching Overcompensating by Benita Skinner on Amazon Prime. On Amazon Prime, not sponsored. If you wanna, let's pretend, but if you want to give the, gimme the Bezos money, I don't give a shit. I would, I would, I would relish in it. I would relish in. Oh, I don't know. Funny joke. I don't, I was trying to call it a funny joke. It was really funny joke. Oh, I didn't know. I don't know. Okay. We just finished watching Overcompensating by Benito. What's his actual name? Benito Skinner. Benito Skinner? Yeah. Skinner Skinner. Benito Skinner. Benny drama, Benny Drama, Mr. Drama Daddy drama, if you will. Oh my God. At this point. So hot. I was, my learns were what? Learns. My loins were burning yours. Were going, that's what you just say. My learns were going. That's what you were gonna say. Wait, that's what you were gonna say. My learns were going, my learns were going. My learns were going. No, my gits were Lloyd. What my. Loins were G What are you even I girded my loins. My loins were girded. Yes. Gird. Your loins. Everyone. Oh, because Bonita. Skinner is hot. Now it, it might have been hot before, but I didn't really like him. I didn't think he was funny before. Sorry. Benny drama, but now I think you're hilarious and you're hot. I think that entire show was fantastic. It's was so great. And that us talking and that got us talking and thinking about like queer media and like where were we in the world when we first, when episode one, episode one, season one of Glee premiered. This is not an episode about Glee. Oh. It is like we could really, we could really recount the amount of times on this show alone. You have just talked at nonstop. Yes. Okay. We're talking about gay media ramp and rage about glee. Glee is an important point in queer media. Let me just pause for a second. I really am happy with this. Oh my God. Thank God you're happy. Enjoy. I enjoy the setup always created. We spent an hour before this episode yelling at each other on the couch because nothing was going right. And now everything's going swimmingly. So we're gonna dig into gay media and I'm going to dig into Glee. First. We are gay media, so I'm talking about myself as well. I'm gonna talk about Glee first because Glee is an important point of gay media. Sorry. Sorry. We can go, no, we're sorry. We talk about that we do this in every single episode where you, like, we have a topic and we're like, what? How old were you when you first experienced this one random thing in life? Glee was my first gay show that I saw. Yeah, I know. That's why, and it's the 16th anniversary of the first episode, so. Lame. No important. Don't stop believing a Glee original, original song written by G. Does everyone know? Does everyone know? I don't know if we've discussed this on the podcast. Do you know? Okay. Side note that Matt first saw. This is not a side note. This is an important point in my lore. Oh yeah, it is really important. Lore actually key. If you wanna understand me, you need to understand this point. It also really expensive. You don't know much about Matt. At this point, this is really, really important piece of information to get to understand him a little bit better because he thought that Don't Stop Believing was ugly, original. He also thought most of the music on Glee were Glee original. Not, not most. Only the ones that were made pre 2000. Fucking crazy. So crazy, crazy. Listen, pre 2000, listen. No. Listen, was that when you first started listening to music, music, music? That I was six years old? No, I started listening to music. Music in like a freshman year of high school. Hello? Hello? Hello? Maybe middle school. Hello? Hello. I was religiously mentally ill. That is crazy. I was a sheltered child. As we have discussed on this podcast, I was raised in a religious family that only believed in the listening to Christian pop and rock on the radio. But do you think, oh, our God is an awesome God? He reigns from heaven above with wisdom, power, and love. Our God is an awesome God. Oh, period. My God. Oh my God. That is, that's triggering for a lot of people who listen to this podcast. My I such water. Oh, my, my eyes are watering. I'm crying.'cause I'm so upset the about the fact I had to marry you, so, oh my God. I'm so upset. I'm so upset for myself. Oh my God. Maybe this Gemini season will fall for divorce. That is crazy. When I first started listening to Glee, that was my first time listening to like listening. Oh, because you know you had all the albums. I actually didn't. No. Yeah, you did. I put, I mean, on my iTunes. On my iPod. Yeah. Oh my God. For sure. Don't Stop Believing was on my iPod. You're a lime wire for sure. When does the first episode of Glee come out? Oh, 19 years ago. 16 years ago. 16 years ago was 16. Fuck. 2009. Hmm. Maybe I didn't start listening to music before then. I listened to like, I don't know, I didn't listen to old music. So this is the thing I only listened to, like in my middle school, I was into like AVR Levine and like, yeah, that's normal. And like, you know, those punk pop rock bands, whatever they called. But I didn't listen to like Journey. Or The Beatles, or, no, nobody listened to The Journey or The Beatles. That was age, but I didn't know those existed either. But I didn't know those existed, so that's why I thought, don't stop believing when it first came on. I believe it was ugly, original. Move on, move on, move on, move on, move on. Oh my fuck. Duh, duh. Move on. I'm gonna fucking kill myself. Move on. Glee was a very important thing. It was the first time I saw a boy kids. Let's talk about the gay things. Yeah. The, the point of this episode, believe we're talking about gay, don't Stop Gay Media. You guys we're talking about gay media. Everything about, about Glee is gay. We're talking about gay media, we're talking about gay shit. We're talking about shows that are gay shows that helped us come out as gay. Okay. Shows that helped us realize, wow. Oh my God. Maybe I'm like that because. You need to see yourself represented in media and the queer media. And the first time I did that was on Glee on whatever season it was, um, Kurt and Blaine, where Kurt and Blaine had the Yo p. I, that was my first time seeing gay people ki Oh, I need talk on TVs, don't I? Oh my God. Oh, oh my God. Oh my God. What? Do you know? What do you know? What, do you know what, what? I'd rather take you being a, whatever the fuck you are, gleek. A gleek. Oh, say it with Lord. Say it with pride. A gleek. Your husband is a gleek. And would you look at that? I could put a drink on my, on my armchair. Would you look at that? I could put a drink on my arm chair. You're just trying to distract from the fact that your husband's a gleek. I'm trying to distract from the fact that I married a gleek. I was thinking about this earlier. Don't, so you know, the episode, don't, don't make, don't, don't, don't make, see. Do you know that me actually throw myself out the window? What are you gonna say? See, did you know the episode? What was that sound you just made? Do you know the episode where? Uh, Rachel and Kurt have just like moved into their New York apartment and, um, unfortunately yes, and I don't know, was it Thanksgiving or it was like their first party or something. Turkey Luki time. Turkey Lurky time. So then they had like Sarah Jessica Parker come in for let's have a Kiki. And you know, sh was in that. Yes. So my point was. That. I don't think at that point in time I had seen sex in the city, so I did not know who this lady was. Who came? You were lying. Who came, walked click clacking in her heels up to you're fucking lying. This loft department. You're fucking lying of Kurt and Rachel. You're fucking lying. I don't think I knew who Sarah Jessica Parker was. Said this point, you are fucking lying. No. So I don't know if I understood the gravity of the situation when that episode aired. And let's have a Kiki and Turkey Luki time were mashed together and the universe was changed forever. Oh my God. And Shang got her start. Oh, stop. Oh wow. Okay. It gave me unrealistic expectations of what, um, a future apartment of mine might look like. You never watched friends. No, I didn't see friends. Can you see Monica's fucking giant apartment? You know, I've never seen friends. Yeah, I know. That's crazy. You know that fact. But Rachel and Kurt Hummel. Yeah. From Indiana coming to New York. Is that where it was set? Was that set in Indiana? Yeah, it was in Indiana. Shut up. I didn't know that. I didn't even know that. You don't even know where Indiana is. That's crazy. It is in the Midwest. Yeah, correct. It is. So if you have Ohio here. So you have Ohio here, then you have the things above it. It's like there, because I have a friend from Indiana. I don't know where Indiana is. I I know where it's there. I'm fucked with you. I know it's, it goes there. Yeah. I don't know where it's, it's above Ohio, but like to the left. Who cares about that? Up and above? Who cares about Indiana? Anyways, Kurt Humel. This is also the second time we've mentioned Ohio. Kurt homeowner, Rachel Berry going into New York and living in this beautiful loft apartment with Sarah Jessica Parker coming through unrealistic expectations. Well that was the first time you've even lied to. That's crazy. Where is Indiana? Oh, it's exactly to the left of of Ohio. It's exactly to the left. Have a huge border. Well, yeah, that was my first time seeing boys kiss and that was very important for me. I remember watching it with my friends in high school. I was like, Aw, I have to tell you something. What? I dunno if you know this, but first time I saw boys Kiss. I think I was I'm gonna say 12. Oh, I'm gonna throw it out there and say 12. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say it was 12. Mm-hmm. This is gonna be very niche and only my British baddies will understand. I was watching Holyokes. Holly Oaks Holyokes. Never heard of it. Never heard of it. It's come at like 6:00 PM on like channel four. Soap opera. Soap opera. Sounds like it. Yeah. A show at 6:00 PM on channel four. Sat in, uh, the fictional town of Holyokes in Chester. Dunno where any of those things are. Or like close to Ches. Chester. Where's Chester? Cheshire. Cheshire, yeah. Cheshire. Cheshire. Yeah. Cheshire. Cheshire. Where is it? It's like south of Manchester. Okay. Local. Kind of, yeah. Okay. What was it about? So it kinda like, you've got Liverpool, you've got Manchester, you've got Chester Ches. Right? Like right there. Okay. What was this famous show about Holyokes at the cutting edge of queer drama was gay. There was a, no it was not gay, but there was gay, there was gay story lines. Hmm. Um, if I remember correctly, the two characters, they were best friends in high school and they had like a kiss and my mom walked in and she thought I was watching. Bored. Mm. She thought I was watching Bored. That'll do it. Because these two boys were making out on the tv. So were they making out or just like pecking? They were, they were making out. Oh, okay. 6:00 PM daytime television. Well, it's kinda your fault. I didn't know what was gonna happen. Oh, oh yeah. But I knew they were gonna be gay. I knew they were like gay. There was lead up to it. That's when I started watching it.'cause I heard from the grapevine, oh my God, you have to watch Charlies'cause gay. So you decided to put that on. So I'm 12 at 6:00 PM With your mom in the house. Yeah, my mistake. A little bit of, yeah. And then when, well, and then I came out like two years later. She was like, huh. Didn't see that one comment. It's crazy. Anyway, uh, Craig and Craig, his name is Craig. I hate how you say Craig. How you say? Craig? Craig. Craig. Craig. Craig. It's Craig. There's like 10 syllables in there. Yeah. C-R-A-I-E-G. That's two. That's five letters. Why are you saying 10 syllables? Craig Eye after a equals a like Craig. Craig. Craig. What was the other guy's name? Craig. And who? Hey. How do you think Graham as well. Graham. And also, it's so annoying. Why do you make Make things like a gray? Because it's gray ham. It's so long. It's Graham. It's so long. It's Graham and Craig. Hey you guys this, these are my friends. Graham and Craig. That's so hard to say. No, Graham and Craig. That's crazy. Do you not see how much your mouth, Graham and Craig? It's Grey, ham and pre I'm, I'm the letters in the words. The syllables of the word must be pronounced. Listen. Listen how easy it is. Oh my God. Graham and Craig. Graham and Craig. Graham and Craig. It's just Graham and Craig. There's three syllables. Graham and Craig. Grham. And Craig was the other guy's name Graham? No. Oh, it was, could you imagine? His name was John Paul and he had like seven sisters. Okay. Um, they made out his best friend and his, and his best friend was Craig. And then they made out after school one day. I can't remember the details. Okay. But I was like, I have to watch this show now. And there was another character in it called Chris and he dressed in women's clothing. Ah. So early days of the non-binary. Mm. When that word didn't really exist and they used to th at 6:00 PM Bear mind you, at 6:00 PM Mind you, I will say the Brits. These just throw around the T word. Ah, interesting. It was crazy. I'm not surprised for British. Crazy. I'm not surprised. Brit tv is very crass. You had like fucking dicks swinging around on that one show. We did do that, but that was like late night television. How did the, how did the non-binary person dress. Not well. Well, I won't say very well. I won't say it was really good actually. It was like inspiring for me as a young feminine gay. Mm-hmm. To see these two like jocks make out, but then also. Chris who was dressed in like a cute like shirt but then a skirt and then like thigh high boots and I'd be like, that's really cunty. Actually, for the time it was cty, I think back and say like, oh, the outfit choices weren't that great, but it was like the early two th mid two thousands. Mm was the mid two thousands. Was this, oh my god. It was the early two thousands. Crazy. This is like 2000, this is like 2004. Oh gosh. That's crazy work. Wow. Or five maybe. Yeah. Yeah. And then I know this wasn't like a, there wasn't like prominent gay characters, but this was around the same time I started watching the OC, because also never seen Ryan really did it to me. Also, I just learned when he was on the show, he was 25 playing a 16-year-old. I've never seen the OCI don't know who Ryan is, so I have no opinions. You're crazy. You're crazy. When was Queers, when did the Queers Folk UK edition come out? Around that time, I think. But I never watched it. You never watched, did you watch the US version? Queer. Oh, queer as Folk. Yeah, I did. Queer, yeah, queer. Queer As Folk. Oh, I thought you said, I thought you meant Queer Eye. No, queer as folk. Queer as Folk. Yeah. I watched the British one first and then I watched the UK one that I watched later on in my life. In like university? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was in, no, actually I watched that like towards the end of high school, college era. Yeah.'cause that was ranch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ranch. Ranch. That was when I discovered like, oh. I forget what happened, but I know there was a lot of sex. Oh, we're a bit crazy, aren't we? There was a lot of drugs and a lot of sex. Yeah. And a lot of partying. Um, I don't remember much of the premise beyond the skinny twink in the, so there was a guy, there was a guy, there were two Twinks. I remember the, the American, American guy's name. I don't remember if the, the, the character's names were the same. I used to think he was hot. I think the American one. Yeah. Not the British one. The British one was the British Maine. The British, Maine, the blonde guy. Is there a blonde twink? There was a blonde twink and there's a taller guy with longer hair. Holy hell, right? No, no. What? Who were you on about Look out the picture of him. No, no, no. We don't need to. We don't need to. I need to know who he looks like. Where is folk? So the US version had like an actual like long running show. I think it was like five seasons, right? It was a long time ago, and I think it was a spit off. There was a spinoff on Max. The lesbians? No, the lesbians have a spinoff. I don't know. Lesbians should have had a spinoff. They were great characters. Why did I, oh, I was searching the Glee anniversary earlier. What? I came up. Oh, queer as folk. Oh, what? Get on with it. This one. This one. The one with the brown hair? Yeah, with the kind of nice hair. His name's Brian. Brian and then Brian. This was, was this the British one? No, he wasn't British. This is the American version of the show. I'm talking about the American version. Yeah, yeah, I know. So there's no British. Hmm. Oh, and there's no one British in the show. Is this your, is this yours? Yes. Oh, I know. Ugh. Yeah. The main character, like the main older man had like greasy, greasy, greasy hair. Greasy hair and, but actually the casting of the two younger, like the younger boys, they look really similar. Yeah. That is like just, oh yeah, that's what I was like a question if that was the same person. No, no, no. They just like the British version of him, Ranch Central. But it really taught me, it was like, this is what you have to expect in the gay community. Yeah. I learned a lot and it's exactly, yeah, that's what it is. And, and then I would say like all, like what I used to watch like friends and there was a, a gay character, but then he turned out not to be gay. It came out that Phoebe Buffet was married this whole time to an ice skater. And then she was like, oh my God, yay. My gay best friend who I'm married to.'cause he wanted a visa. And then he, they like meet up for the first time in ages'cause he's been like ice skating. And then he's like, I want a divorce because I'm getting married to a woman. So he wasn't gay. And she was like, but I'm actually in love with you. And it was really sad for her. And bisexual people don't exist. He wasn't gay. Yeah, I know exactly. They just like didn't never mention it again. They also made them the trans people on that show. Oh, I know. And it was so. Let was lesbian phobic. It's just a homophobic, but like the friends was the The friends. The friends friends was most, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you, if you go back in time and like really, really scrutinize it. Sure. But yeah, it was ahead of its time in some ways and it was funny and I grew up with it, so leave me alone. The same with Sex in the City. We're watching Sex with the City now. Oh my God. That shit, they got some words crazy. They got, they said some sentences, So you've only just started watching Sex in City now. But my cousin, when she was living with us, she bought the box set. Mm. And then my friend at college, she also had the box set. Mm. So I spent like my end of high school days watching, like I was like 14, 15 watching Sex of the City. That's why I'm the way I'm lost. So when Sarah Jessica Parker entered that no. I never watched Gossip Girl. Oh my God. When Eric came, well, when Eric was outed, what did I watch? Oh my God. When Georgina outed Eric at the dinner table. Mm. Gossip girl that I was like, that can't happen to me. No, you really learned a lot from queer media. Well, I was about to see, I don't think there was a gay, I was like, what did I watch as a child? Yeah. I'm like, do you have a memory? I watched Lost and I don't know if there were any gay people in there. Which is the lost opportunity. Lost opportunity. Yeah. It was the lost, no, that was too ahead of its time.'cause I think that ended on like 2000 and there were eight seasons. Why wasn't there one gay character? There were way too many seasons of that. Were they gay characters? I don't remember it. No, them. I think there was, I mean, I was highly attracted to Sawyer. Highly. Oh yeah, highly. He was so hot. I don't think he ever spoken a normal voice. No. He was like, yeah. With his like, oh, so hot. Who else? The anti cus was smoking hot. The brunette. Kate. Kate. Kate, Kate. Kate. Oh my God. Kate. Kate. And then when it came out, she was one who was like the prisoner. Uhhuh the prisoner on board. Oh my God. She was hot. Who else was else was hot. Honestly, Boone, when Boone died. Boone. Oh, Bo was so hot. Boone was Boone the Australian one. Boone played, yeah. Who was played by Ian? Summer Holder. Oh, he was so hot. Yeah. Did you ever watch, what's the other show that Ian Summer Holder and that other guy were in is like Vampirey? True blood. Is that the thing? No, but I know it. Is it true blood? Yeah, true. Yeah. No, I never watched that shit. Me neither, but Boone. Oh my. Oh my God. God. This entire cast, God, this entire cast, Sawyer. Oh, is that what Sawyer looks like? Saeed could get it too. Side. Could get it. Side could get it. Gin. Could get it. Gin. Gin could get, and they were all shirtless all the time. All the time. They were all like, just like naked in the, in the swimming holes. Oh my God. Oh my God. Who else was hot? Yeah. See? Gay awakenings. Gay come from all directions, for sure. High school musical, if there were any. We must talk about it. Troy's, I completely forgot about high school musical. The one, the one scene that was a constant on my search history, ew, on Google, was the shower scene when he is singing in the shower. Which sa which movie for one? When Troy is singing in the shower and he's like basically naked. No, that was the first time he was ever shirtless in high school musical. I dunno how old he was. I dunno how old he was.'cause now this is kind of, sounds a bit like to say'cause like I'm No, it was'cause it came out at the time when you were young. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So talking about it then. Yeah, my inner child is speaking. Okay. You're correct. Thank you. Okay. I don't think he was singing, but he was like, dad spoke to him when he was in the shower and he like, yeah. Yeah. And it was like, it was like. Tit up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, and there was one scene where he was singing in the shower. He was in the shower, two scenes. And I was like, as a young gay child. And then the second movie was when he was actually shirtless. Like in a pool or something? Yes.'cause they were on like, you know, they were, they were in Arizona, the vacation home. Yeah. Place. Yeah. It was that in Arizona? I think. So. Why do you remember the location of everything? I just, I have weird memory. Um, and then who else was hot in there? Have you seen what the dad looks like now? So he was on, so someone like posted a video of him in on In New York? Yeah, on TikTok like two or three years ago. Yeah, he's hot. Hot. Yeah, he's hot. Could get it. I'm like, is he gay Media? Media for me is just the men that I'm attracted to. I feel like he's a Republican now. Who? Or maybe he's not. Corbin. Ballou. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, I don't keep up with that Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who was a friend? Oh, the guy. Guy who did the cre brulee. I thought he was a bit hot. Huh? The cre, bru, brulee guy. Which guy? The guy, you know, the guy who's like, say what you want in your fucking brain. And he's like, guys, I like to make creme brulee and do this and do that. Yeah. And they were like, no, no, no. Stick to the stuff, you know. Was he the skater? No, he was on the basketball team. Uh, Zeke. Okay. I don't recognize any of these people.'cause these are the, all the current head shots and they've not aged well. Again, all the women look fantastic, but all the men look foul. What other queer media did we consume? I completely forgot about high school musical, so I feel like you've got more in your brain. mean, glee was the big thing for me. They're not were they're not like other like Gossip girl esque shows you watched growing up. No, I watched Veggie Tails. Huh? I'm sorry, what? Have you ever seen Veggie Tails? I have no idea. What're talking. You don't know what veggie tails are. The tomato in the cucumber, you know the tomato in the cucumber. it's a Christian show, but then why would I have watched it? So I don't know. You also have like an Islamic version. It was like a date. A date, and a mango set in Mecca. Wait. No, I thought that was like a TikTok thing. No, it's a Christian show. No, like it's a show based on like Christian teachings, like teaching you about the bible. But it's all these fucking vegetables. I don't know why they're vegetables. I don't know why they're Christian, but they are, and that's what I watched growing up. Sometimes you really do need to keep things to yourself. No, it's part of my lore. Lore. My lore is deep and profound. Yeah. Mentally, mentally ill. That is crazy. Um, I wanna skip forward to, um, queer Eye. Yeah. I was thinking about Queer Eye too, because that feels like a good, a good, a good one to hit as an important piece of queer media, even though I shan't be watching it now, because I think it's a little bit cringe at the moment. I, oh yeah. There was a new season, wasn't there? Yeah. I'm just cringed out by it because it just doesn't. I, it's very important. It's an important show. It's a very important show. It's an important show, but I think it's important for straight people. Totally. I think it's important for like gay people if they haven't had like, you know, the exposure. Mm-hmm. And I think for me it was a, it was a good way for me to bridge the gap between my mom understanding gay things for the first time. So queer, I help my mom. Mm-hmm. For me personally as a show to watch, I just like, don't care that much. I'm good to go. I'm gay as fuck. Yeah. I don't really need to, I, some of the episodes are like emotional and like heart wrenching, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need to watch it. But, and very important, I will say Tan France still was the first person. Yeah. And when, when did that come out? Eight years ago. Like eight years ago. 27 or eight years ago. 2019. So first gay. Brown, Pakistani, British, British, Muslim background. What else? What other trigger words can I use? Platinum hair. You had platinum hair at the time. I did have platinum. I did not have platinum hair at the time.'cause that came out when we were in Berlin. Still. Well you got inspired to have platinum hair because of him. No, I did not. Uh oh my God. God. Uh, anyway, yeah, first person that looked like me, like truly like, looked alike me. Represented me. Yeah. In media. Very important. No, the first couple of seasons were like incredible. And I remember crying at a lot of them.'cause I'm like, I come from a background of these people. Yeah, yeah. These people. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's both my family and that's how I was raised. So it's like, it was very, uh, I was very, yeah, I was very, my emotions were tugged. My, my heartstrings were, were pulled at. Yeah, if you will, by this show. And it was great. I'm not gonna watch it anymore though. Antony's hot. I'm sorry. The new interior designer's hot. Oh yeah, that's true. I think it's really hot. Okay, so we're, this is a show we're just talking about, like this episode, we're just talking about people who think we're hot. Isn't that what gay media is? Oh, I should be gay Awakenings. Yeah. Gay media, gay awakenings, awakenings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We come up with the episode, gay episodes as we go, awakenings. when you were like young, young though, how young? Young, how young? Because I know you had a certain crush on a certain, oh, please. We've already talked about this on the podcast. Have we? Yes. Danny Phantom. Tony Hawk, not Tony Hawk. I'm not talking about Tony Hawk again. I'm going, I'm going beyond that. Well, that was my first, uh, yeah. I mean, I don't know. No.'cause Tony Hawk might have been your first like human being crush you, freak Danny Phantom is a human being. Don't talk about him like that. That is a drawing. That's a drawing on a piece of paper, and he is a hot drawing. Oh my God. Imagine fans seeing a piece of paper not as a brunette, but only as a platinum hair. Imagine. Was he ever a brunette ghost? Yes. When he was a boy or black hair? He, sorry. He had black hair. Oh, he is two different people. No, he's the same person, but he became a ghost. What's the show? Danny Phantom. He died? No, no, no. He just can turn into a ghost. Oh. What the fuck is this show? I don't actually remember the premise, but I know he was, what's the name of the show? Danny Phantom. Oh, that's the name of the show. What? I don't know why I thought that was, he was a character from like F odd parents.'cause animation was similar? No, he has no, he has a whole show. Yeah, I did watch very loud parents as well, and sometimes I forget, like I'm like, not even significantly, I'm older than you, but like, not even just by age, but by like social, social state. What are you gonna say now? What the fuck social state is in street? Blah, blah. Oh my God. Shut up. I am older than you in Street Smart. I, yeah, Danny Pham was a crush for sure. Okay. Cartoons. Cartoons. I had a crush on Danny Phantom. I had a crush on. Oh my god. That big, massive guy from fairly odd parents. The big guy with like the, the military guy. I didn't with the big arms. I didn't hear you talking about, um, who else? Scar from the Lion King, um, guy is crazy. That is mentally ill. No, it's true. He could get it. Look at him. That's a lion. Look at him. That is a lion. But look at him. Oh my God. No, you're trying, but you're justifying bestiality. It's the obvious next step. Oh my God. Get out. This is this, this group, we're teeing on the edge here. You'll see that on Fox News. Did you not have any cartoon crushes? Not really. That's weird. Ooh, wait, not like crushes. Mm. Anybody that you were like, Ooh, if he was real, he could get it. Do you have watch Digi? Yeah, for sure. There was like an angel Digi man called like Anon, I think his name was. So you made fun of me of a liking a lion, but was fucking You were like a digon. He was hot. You thought a digon was hot. What? Wait till you see him. Wait till you see him. Angel Digon. Anon. Anon. Is it called anon? Yeah. His, it is like his final evolution or something. Oh, wasn't he hot? Was he hot? Yeah. Look, Oh yeah.'cause I wanted to be her that country one. Oh, and then I fancied that one, that other country one. Did he ever helmet on the whole time? Oh, I was obsessed with Digman and then this one, of course, his name is Angie Man, and the woman was called Angie Woman. Angie Woman. But they weren't, it wasn't, it wasn't woman. It was, whoa. So it's Angie Woman and then they pronounced it Angie Wo Woman, and it was Angie, man. Cool. So were they technically, because it's Digi man and everything was, did all the Digi man end with man? They did, didn't they? Probably. But were they like monsters or they, was that a, I don't, was that a person? Don't remember. Or was a monster? This was like, I was like fully like six years old, so I don't remember. Mm. Yeah, I don't remember the premise of it really. There was another show I used to love. What? did you ever watch a show called Card Captors? No. It was like a manga, but it was like, I think it was like set, it's like a, it was like dubbed, My gay awakening was wanting to be Kora from card captures. Mm, I don't, is that her? I don't know who that is because wait card capture, Kora a magic girl, manga and anime series about Kora. Keno Keno Moto, a fourth grader who accidentally releases magic cards from a book in her fa in her father's study. Crazy. She opens up a book. Listen, this is when I knew I was gay. I think I was six and I discovered this Cty little show. She opens a book. And all these fucking magic cards fly out and scatter around the town, around the city. And she's like, oh my God, what did I just do? And it's her quest to find all the cards because the cards animate into real characters and like one is like shadow and it like comes into the, comes into the night and like fucks you up. One is like the wind and she captures them and then kinda obtain their abilities. And then she gets the cards and she has like a little wand and I was like, this is the. ConEst show ever. I'm homosexual now. That's how that works. That and Sailor Moon, I had Sailor Moon card captors and then Digi Man, I feel like Digi Man. Wasn't that Cty actually, I just showed you what Angie Man and Angie Wman looked like. So yeah, it was pretty cty. You know? What else was Cty Yugi? That was pretty cty. I know he was kind of hot. The big, the other guy, not the, not the one with the spiky hair, but the one with the brown hair. Kinda like Professor X looking ass guy. Uhhuh his main, his main villain. The main villain against Yugi. He was the one with the, um, dark magician. I completely missed an entire plot point. He was the dark magician was hot. Yeah, the dark magician was hot. Wait, this guy? Yeah. Yeah. He could get it. But that's the blue. That's not the dark magician. That's the blue-eyed white. Oh, you, you had the dark magician. That's'cause that's the blue eyed white dragon. He had the blue eyes white dragon. we missed a complete plot point where my, my big, the beginning saga of my, like anime esque, uh, world of television started. And I think I do have my first ever, ever, ever. Anime crush. And that was Goku from Dragon Ballsy. Oh my God. Yes. Or Trunks. But when he came back from the future, when he's like older, I don't remember who Trunks was. Purple hair. He's, um, Ji's son, but he like comes back from the future. You're saying So many words. I have not looked at. Come on. I have not looked at Dragon. Everything that show was everything to me. I know they had a lot of abs. All of them had abs. if you ever like look up like, I don't know, like workouts on on TikTok or something, you'll come by like one random Jim bro. He'll be like, here's how to get super sane pecs. What?'cause they're super sains. Like, here's how to get my Super San Pec workout. Oh. And I'm like, yeah, I kind of want Super San Pecs. Wait, this little, this little guy, the older version. Oh, that's a child. When he came back from the future, I was like, that's a child. Yeah, not the child. You freak. That's a child. Older. He was. He's right there. This one? Yes. He was older. He was when he Some fucking megamind. Yeah, when he shirtless. Should I type shirtless trunks? Dragon balls. Shirtless Dragon balls. Google. Show me this guy's dragon balls. I told you my inner child is doing this podcast right now. Also, wait a minute, wait a minute. And I just thought of another one. Oh wow. yeah, yeah. I told you for sure those boulder shoulders. Bold. That is so many abdominals. Yes. No, that is crazy. This gave me unreal. This is where my unreal, realistic body expectations came from. Yeah. These like alien characters. Yeah. I was like, I can look like that easily. Yeah. Easily. Should I talk like shirtless, shirtless? Dragon ball. We we're getting too far into the characters. Sure. That's, I just wanna see if I can find the craziest one. It's again, it's just drawings. Yeah. I mean, Goku was like the one, right, and he was so nice too. Like Yeah, he's the one Goku, he always had like, although did like, I did like the G'cause he was a bit of a batty. Mm. Like why? Did our parents not understand that we were gay? I don't know. Well, my brother used to watch it and my cousins all watched it and we all watched it together and, and no one turned gay. Obsessed with the dragon, ballsy.'cause it was, the storyline was fantastic for sure. Like you are six years old and you're watching this show and it's like, this is. Insane. Yeah, no, it's a and go crazy shot, like dies right at the beginning and you're like, oh, okay, well fuck. And they have to collect all the dragon balls to like go and get him. I don't remember much about it. I'm not gonna lie. Right at the beginning, he like fights freezer dies, trying to kill him and kills him, dies. But then they have, then they have to, that's when they go on the quest to look for all the dragon balls to bring him back. Another one came to my mind. Oh my God. How many do you have now? No, but this isn't animated. It's crazy. I'm not. You've opened up a, a wormhole. Oh. Finally, we're 47 minutes in. Yeah. You've opened up a can of worms. A wormhole. Wormhole. Do we know how to speak English? No. Fuck no. No, no, no, no. Anyway. Power ranges. Oh, that that is animate. Isn't that I animated? No Girl was that, was there really? Do you know? I recently just learned though. What? So the show Power Ranges. This is gonna be news to you guys. Friends of mine at the table. So Power Rangers, which again, I used to fucking love. Yes. The Mighty Morphing Power Rangers. The government name. Yeah, they, it was, it's a show in Japan. Sure. That they took the footage from. When they're in their costumes. Sure. And the robots in the fucking moon, the moon scenes of Rita. Fucking Skeeter. R Rita, not Rita Ski. Rita Skeeter. That's from Harry Potter. Wait, Rita Raps. Rapunzel. I just measure Rita Skeeter's face on a moon. Kind of the same. Yeah. So no, the, the, the, the villains had a base on the moon. I know all about it. Yeah. all of that, it's all dubbed in English and like they have the English like dubbing over the. When they're in their costumes. Yeah. Because they only film all the high school scenes when they're like in school in America with the American cast. Ah, crazy. I thought it was all original. Jason, oh my God. At the time were they, were they ever shirtless, Tommy? Were they ever shirtless? No, I don't think they were because it was like, that sucks. It was missed opportunity. Wait, were they Tommy from, um, power Rangers? I'm pretty sure he died recently. One of them died This is Jason. I fancy Jason. A hundred percent. It was the nineties. Yeah, a hundred percent. It was the nineties. Okay. Yeah, hot. Hot. For sure. For sure, for sure. Sure. This is Tommy. Oh, you used to fancy fucking Tommy Tom, who? Tony Hawk. Tony Hawk. I did. And I stand by that decision. There were more characters. Oh, he did die in 2022. Rip. No, that's so sad. I think that shows why we're gay. I think that is, I think that shows, listen, we're homosexuals.'cause we saw shirtless men on television. Isn't that fucking George? We could go one further and say, oh my God, You could say that I was in the underwear section. For sure at the Tesco extra for sure. That is the reason. And then we saw, well, did I? No, it wasn't. It was Debenhams. I was in the under underwear section in Deb Des, what the fuck? Denims. What the fuck? I think they went outta business recently. Denims, daba, nims denims. Let's go to denims guys. Sorry. Fruit tails or what? Whatever the fuck you were just talking about. What? Your veggie tails. Your veggie mite tails. Your tails of veggie mite like veggie mite tails, dick. Okay. Suck a Vegemite dick. You freak. I'm talking about a department store in the UK called Debenhams, spelled Deb n Hams. Okay. Where I saw my first underwear model. Underwear, my first, I saw my first underwear. First garment of underwear. Okay, so leave me alone. that was intricate. It was intricate thank you so much for listening to this episode of Let's Dig In. If you enjoyed what you heard, please give us a five star review on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And if you didn't enjoy what you heard, then why don't you go shut the fuck up. Don't say anything. If you give us anything less than a five star. I hate you. I really don't. Thank you so much for listening to this ramble. That was so fun. Um, next week's gonna be a special birthday episode for me. Oh, okay. No, delete that Maybe it will be. Maybe it's just gonna be you. I just won't be here. Oh, that'd be fun, wouldn't it? Just you looking at a camera for an hour ranting. That's the best birthday present I can give you. That is the best birthday present I could give to myself. Well, just like an hour for you to not shut up. See you then. Bye bye.