Happy Pride, Stand on B*tches' Necks!

And just like that, it's Pride month yet again!!! (do we do this every year??) Let's dig into how we're feeling about Pride this year and drag some corporations while we're at it ;) 

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Hi gay. Welcome to the Butter Shop. Welcome to that butter shop that's only open during pride. What else does she say in that thing? Do you know how I thought that girl was only famous for that one thing, but she was like, why was she a guest judge in RuPaul's Drag Race that one time? Because she's a famous comedian. Is she? Actually, yeah. I had no idea who she is. I had no idea either. I still like, that's the Butter Girl. I still don't really know who she is. Max Ter? Yes. Oh yeah. See, I know that name, but I, she's so funny, but I didn't know she was anything more than the Butter girl. Have you pride everyone? I got my ice coffee. The gates of Heller opened. Well that happened during the Gemini season, during the, the start of Gemini season. And now it is not a coincidence that Gemini season and pride month are on the same. It's also not a coincidence that it is Gemini Sea. Well, it was my birthday on the first day of Pride month. Yeah, the world felt the earthquake that happened when you were I was also born three, three, three. So I know we've discussed that. I'm that spooky. Really. Have we discussed that? We did that. We talked about this last time. Oh yeah. Can I shut up for a second? Do you remember much? No. Exactly. Like can I like actually shut the fuck up for a second half of pride? It's pride. My god. Time for time. For time for gayness. And I can't say the F word on here, can I? It's, I mean, I can say it generally, but you can. You won. Can I say it on the podcast? Will Spotify banners, if we use the word fag, we'll find out I guess.'cause that's going in there. Great. Perfect. For effect. Forry Forgo forry. Um, yeah, pride. Woo woo. I feel like all we do on this podcast is talk about our first times doing things in the world. No, but that's just how my mind works though. Let's dig into pride and all that means to us and what we've done for pride in the past. Do you know about like, I have like brand partnerships we've done during Pride, pride campaigns, like during Pride campaigns. So many, and they've been like, what does pride mean to you? And we've been like, oh my God, it means so much. I'm like, what is I really, am I really into pride anymore? I think when you were like young. Do you know what I mean though? Yeah, yeah. I agree. Like I'm in this stage in my life where I'm like. Again, it's important. I love pride. Well, we did like seven last year. I know. So like now I'm like, I I could take a break. Lemme do a baseline. It's like Christmas. Like Christmas. I could take a break for you. Exactly. I could take a break for you. Exactly. I could take a break for you. It like, sometimes it's too much. Let me take a break for you. It's like I'm over the gift giving. I'm over the pageantry. I'm over it. Who, who? You, you give gifts to a, a pride. No, I was talking about Christmas. Oh yeah. Let me give a baseline. There are things I want say that I, lemme give a baseline. Actually. Can't say, lemme give a baseline for my feelings on pride. It, it's very important and very crucial to our community and it's very, very amazing. And I love pride. Sometimes I'm over it, sometimes I'm over the rainbows. I fucking hate. No, it's corporation rainbows. It's corporate pride. That's what I'm do, that's what I'm talking about. Sucks because I've been thinking about this. I'm thinking. I know crazy. I've been thinking about this spit out and I'm like, what? I'm setting the scene. Let's just spit it out. I'm setting the scene. I'll spit on you. Please don't. Please. I thought you could say Please do. And I was like, oh, it's not that kind. Podcast. Sleep. Please don't. No. So here's what I'm ta Here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm think. Get off your phone. I'm listening guys. Look at me. You're also, you're not talking to me. I am talking to you. This is a conversation between us. Here's what I'm thinking.'cause I'm like, why was pride? Why was pride so different in my mind? Like when I was 23, 24 than it is now that I'm 30 and I think Pride 2024. Mine. I, yeah. No, that was my first pride. What? Yes. You don't know that. My first pride was Berlin Pride. You are fucking joking. In 2017, you're fucking joking. 2017 was my first pride. You're joking. No, Berlin. Berlin Pride. 2017. Do we met a week after that? Right? I know. That's crazy. That was my first pride ever. Wait, that's nuts. And I was 23. That's nuts. No, you were 22. 22. Yeah. That's nuts. That's nuts. So we'll get into that. But I was thinking why does that feel right? I know. It's crazy. That's wild. I know. I'm a baby. Oh my God. Are I have a baby? Are are you okay? I grew up in North Carolina. Oh, that's true. Like your universities Have you think Boone, North Carolina had pride? A Pride March? I don't know. We barely had a gay Sexual. Gay. What? What? You can stop right there, gay. You can stop right there. Gay Straight Alliance. We didn't have a Gay Straight Alliance. I was the Gay Straight Alliance. Yeah. You lived in Manchester. Yeah. Well, so that's a big city. Anyways, so what I was thinking is like why was, why was my feeling about going to prides different in like when I was 22 than when I'm 2030? I'm just thinking it's very, extremely corporate, very, the corporateness of pride I think has gotten out of hand. And I'm also gonna say that the, I've mo mostly been to your base mostly. Like you sounded really Parker Posey and we Lewis then I am going. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm from North Carolina. Yeah, I know, but you like really should do that accent a little bit more like tsunami. No, that rubs really good. That was, what were you saying? Okay. Whatever I was saying, stop interrupting me so I can remember my story. God, I was saying that I've mostly been to European prides. I've like barely been to US prides, which is. Honestly, I'd say that they were better because they're less corporate. That's what I'm saying, like I feel like every single pride that I've been to in Europe just felt more community focused. Even Canada, to an extent, like,'cause we've went to Montreal Pride, not fucking Toronto. Montreal. Yeah, Montreal. Yeah. Like a European esque. Pride is a little bit. Less corporate, a little bit more community focused. It feels like there's more messages, there's more meaning to it. It feels like more of a protest than the prides here, like a match and a celebration, but also a protest. Whilst here, this is literally just like, Hey guys, welcome to this, this. I'm a bank, this. Yeah. And I am a telecommunications company and I have a rainbow in my logo, and I'm a grocery store. Yes. Hello. Happy pride, everyone. What can I think of? Like, I can't even say I've been to Pride. I've been to Pride like in Toronto. Like the parade. Yeah. I would never go to the parade yet. My first pride, I was in the parade. Yeah. Did you know that? No. I was on a float in Berlin with Oh, you do tell. You tell me this. With that guy that I was seeing at at the time. Yeah. You tell me this. Y Yannick. That is so funny. Yannick. Yeah. I went on a pride float with him for my first fucking pride. What was the brand? I don't know. Or like thing. Some underwear brand probably, or some shit. I don't know. It was Berlin and then it started pouring down rain. That pride. Yeah, I remember it. That's why we didn't go to like really late. It was so fun. We didn't go celebr really late. It was so fun. one of my best friends from the UK was visiting me. That pride. Uh, in 27. Yeah. 20, 20 17. Yeah. And she like, we just like went to our friends and she's like, pre-gamed and like a bunch of people came there'cause it was kind of close to, um, the brand. Berg Gate brand. Berger Tour brand, Berger Tour. Brandon Berger, brand Berger Tour, the brand Berger tour. And, um. The victory column, whatever the fuck. Yeah. And uh, and the thing with European, everyone's like, there was like a bunch of people that just like came to my friend's place that was close by. Mm. And so we were just like pre-game there until like the rain stopped, which was at like, we were planning together at like midday and rain didn't stop till like four. Well, the thing with European prides. That I find does kind of happen here, but it's not the same'cause you can't drink on the streets. And that has, that has a certain funness to it, that it ends in like a big community block party at the end of the pride route all the time. And that kind of happens here like at Civic Center in, in San Francisco. Like it kind, it happens. Who, who's going to that? People, people go. But it doesn't have the same feel to it as the European ones. No. Europe is just like, it's just Europe. Especially volume for Europe. Yeah, that was my first pride. That was a Berlin Pride. That's crazy. And you were in, in the parade and did you get rained on? Uh, yeah, I mean it was pretty, it was pissing it down. Yeah, But it was fun. It's like rain on me, tsunami. It was fun. Rain on me. Tsunami. Yeah. Great, great, great, great. Good job. Both done. Well done. Well done. It was fun. It was a good time. I was like, wow, this is gay. And especially Berlin, it was like, oh, it was very, very gay. Super gay zpa. Gay zpa. Gay zpa, zpa guile. Okay, please, I'm gonna have an aneurysm. That's so fun for you. How was your first project? I was 15 and I snuck in. That's a full almost decade between, so between us, so watching it was like heavy into sex and city at this point. Mm-hmm.'cause my cousin had the box set and she used to live with us. And so it was, house is the key point of the, it really is just wait till, wait till you see what happens. So I used to sneak outta my house all the time. This was, I was 15 years old and I obviously didn't have an id. My brother got a fake ID when he was 16. I never had a fake ID saying that he was 18, and so I started using his fake ID when I was 14, 15. Because you looked the same, I would just like take it out. Yeah. No, we look, we look the same. When we were in high school, we looked exactly the same. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Everyone used to call me mini bial, like in, in high school. Every, like, all of his friends would close only two years older than me. They'd see me like walking around school. He'd be like, oh, it's mini bi. Whoa. Yeah. I know. I guess out of all your brothers, he looks, he looked the most identical when we were in high school. We looked identical pretty much. Yeah. He still could. And No, not right now. Not identical. No, no, no. But there's more similarities. Yeah. I became a massive fag number two. Okay. I became a massive homosexual. I became a raging homosexual and now he has a wife do lead two. And so do you. You're right. You're actually right. I do have a wife and that's, we're, we're, we're the same. You are so Right. And a dog. They have a dog too. You're so right now, continue with your first pride today. So heavy into Sex and City'cause Yeah. My cousin was just like. How the fuck sat? And I was just like so into it. Let's make you gay. No, I was already gay. I, I came out three, four years. Let's you more gay. Let's up three years before this. Let's make you more gay. Mind you and I, me and my friends like, snuck out. We like went into, into the city 15. I wasn't allowed to go into Manchester. I like lived closer to Stockport, which is, you know, we've been to Stockport, I've been to Stockport. So I lived closer to Stockport. I was only allowed to go into Stockport. I wasn't allowed to go into Manchester'cause that's too far away. And you have to like take the train. Yeah, I wasn't allowed to do that yet. So too many temptations, but had fucking did it anyway. Yeah, obviously, obviously. So I snuck into sea, obviously wore my like ugliest outfit.'cause Describe it, it was a pink shirt. Ugh. It was a pink, like what kind of pink button? Like salmon. See it was really ugly. Yeah, it was ugly. Like for like Easter. Oh my God. It was a really ugly, like pastel pink. No, it was ugly than pastel pink. Oh, it was like it was a button down. Yeah, you wore a button down. It was like a slim fit to pride. It was like a slim shirt. No, that's slim fit. It was 2000, and I'm gonna say eight. Okay. It was 2008. Yeah. Yeah. So almost 10 years before you went to your first parade. That's fucked. It wasn't, it was 2007. Hmm. It was 2007, so exactly 10 years before you went to your pride. Crazy. 2007 and I, yeah, me and my friends. So in Manchester Gate, the gay village. Uh, during pride, it's like sectioned off. There's like fences around, so you have to have tickets to enter. Right. We snuck in. Right. Wait, what else are you, were you wearing though? Oh, like black plants and like heels. I had these like pumps. Yeah, I know. Wait, I'm imagine. Is there any accessories? Were there any accessories? I had like a, like a pearly necklace that Oh, oh my God. Okay. It was like a beauty kind of, kind of imagine what you would think people would wear at, um, what's that thing that happens in New Orleans? That like festival. Oh. Um, um, Mardi Gras. Mardi Gras, and you've got those ugly beads on, bear in mind again, it's 2007. This feels like something that, so I'm wearing like a, a, a pink button up. Yeah. With like, it's like open up to my, like chest. Ah, and then I'm wearing like this beaded, these beaded necklaces. Or like, and they're tied, so you like you wear them, but then you tie them in a knot on themselves. So there's like a little knot in the middle. Oh. But then it's like dangles. Oh, it's fashionable. Okay. This outfit does feel very sex in the city. Appropriate. This makes sense. But also it's 2007 and that was like. I was like a little gay boy experimenting with fashion. Totally experimenting wrong for sure, but like at the time it was like I was like up and up and coming. You're like, Did you see what everyone else wearing in 2007? Are you blind? I was wearing, no, everyone was wearing ugly shit in 2007. That what we did. Okay. Hmm. And I really think there was a waist coat on top of it too. What? There was a waist coat. So can you imagine like a Hannah Montana kind of outfit? Define waist coat was like a, a waistcoat that you'd wear? You mean like a, A blazer? No, no, no. Sleeveless. Imagine like Hannah Montana. Like a Hannah Montana esque outfit. Yeah. You're imagining it. Imagine it. A vest. Yeah, like a vest. A vest. A vest. Yeah. Unbuttoned. Checkered. I'm imagining checkered. No, no, it was black. That's it was black. The shirt was pink. The, the, the dangly jewels were like white, I think. Did you have your Pete wind hair then? I'd have my pee went hair. Yeah. Yeah. And had like these like side bangs. I'm imagining this so hard right now. I get yelled at by my mom all the time to like cut my fucking hair, but I never, yeah. I was like, you know, I had my like Masha hair. Yeah. Like big emo hair. Whoa. And. Yeah, like, and I did my makeup too. I feel like Pete went, wore this exact outfit. Outfit. Exactly. No, no, no, exactly.'cause again, it's 2007. Yeah, it's panic at the disco. It's Fallout Boys. Yeah, it's Avril Levine. Like this is my inspiration. It's like Hannah Montana. Like Yeah, on the other, on the other side. Yeah. Sns Hannah Montana. Fallout boy. Yeah, exactly. And so I, yes, we snuck in, we like snuck in through like the fence and we just like went to one of the bars. Do you remember GAY? I do unfortunately remember GA, across from there there's the canal. Yeah. And then on that side where like. If you look, if you're standing in front of GAY, exactly across from it, but then that way towards the main street. Mm-hmm. Closest to the street side. Yeah. There was like a little boat bar. Yes. And then they didn't ID anyone perfect. And we just like went in and I was like, it was my first alcoholic beverage I ever ordered at a bar. You've told me this about I drink, I've had drinks. Like I had my first drink when I was 14 at like a football game and I know what it was. I sat down and I said, I'll have a Cosmo. Ah, yeah, just like that. Yeah. Ill have a Cosmo just like that. I'll have a Cosmo and that's. A big faggot was born number three. You had a Cosmopolitan as your first drink in a bar. Yeah. That's wild. Isn't crazy. Didn't you? Didn't you? Did you know that Carrie Bradshaw? Well, what's her name? Sarah Jessica Parker didn't have her first Cosmo. During Sex The City until after the show ended. You joking? None of none of those were real. Oh, she didn't have her first Cosmo to of the, yeah, but after the show ended, yeah. Guess what? They're not good. Yeah, obviously. What are they? It's like cranberry heavy. It's, and vodka. Yeah, it's just vodka and cranberry, I think. I think it's like, imagine like, no, it's not vodka cranberry, but imagine like a martini, but it's like cranberry, right? Cranberry, yes. Right. Cosmopolitan cocktail. Cosmo Pollin. Like who the fuck is drinking a cosmopolitan? Old ladies. Literally old ladies. I was dressed like one. oh. Yeah. It's, it's vodka quantro or triples sec. And then lime and then cranberry juice. Whoa. All of you did a diet version. It might not be that bad, like a sugar for cranberry. No, it was, it was like cranberry, sugar heavy. It was very like, yeah, it was very, but it was strong. Because it was strong. It was like a martini. It's just like, it's just alcohol, right? And then a splash of cranberry, right? Anyway, I got pretty drunk. Mm. And then I don't really remember how that night ended, but I think I got yelled at. You don't need to know by my mother. think my oldest brother as well.'cause I stuck into the city and I think he found out. And then he like didn't tell my mom. Oh. He was like, I'm gonna tell her. Yeah. And I was like, snitches got fucking stitches, bitch. Did you punch him? No. Of course I didn't punch him. You should have. But my oldest brother was gonna snitch on me and I was like, don't tell mom, talk to mom. Don't tell mom. Yeah. Anyway, that was my first pride. Oh my God. And. Then they got increasingly more insane from there. Yeah.'cause my first pride was Berlin and then my pride's fourth. Did we go to 2000? Well, hang on. We met in 2017 and we left before. Yeah, we left before the next one. Oh, crazy. Yeah. So that was our first pride. Well, my first pride, that was the first pride. Well, we weren't even together then. Ah, well, the funny thing is that pride, that same pride that you went to, you were dancing on the streets and stuff. Yeah. And my best friend from the UK was visiting me. Yeah. We went out after like, we were like, I think we went to Sissy Fossil or one of the fucking parties, sissy Fas, and then like bar hopped a bit or whatever. And then I think it was so, so fucking late and my friend had gone home by herself and she got lost and then I had to go let her in. But I was like speaking to some guy on Grindr and I was like, I'm just gonna go. I am just gonna go. You gonna go? And I did. I put her into bed and then I was like, bye. And then I went and he, this guy lived down the street and I went to his house. Nice. And then it was kind of weird actually. What was his name? Julian. Julian. Julian. Oh, Yu. Uh, he was, he's not listening unless he is listening. He, he's your number one fan. Actually. Could you imagine? He was a, his voice. He was a voice actor. Mm. He was a voice actor. Like how was his voice in, in terms of dubbing, dubbing voice, voices on like TV shows and shit? Did he have a nice voice? Very German voice. Oh yeah, I know. Well, the thing about Grindr is you don't get to hear the fucking voice before you go over. That should be a feature I know of any dating app. Well, you can like face like FaceTime them on the app. No, that's weird. You should have. Any dating app, there should be a mandatory requirement that you say a sentence. Ooh, hinge does that, isn't it? Like, I feel like I see them on, um, on TikTok all the time. People like screen record, people's like hinge. Oh yeah. It gives you like a prompt and then you have to like, speak something. Well, you know, like whenever you get a new phone and you have to set up Alexa and it asks you like, say like, Hey, or no, sorry, not Alexa. Sorry, Siri. Yeah. Yeah. And it says like, Siri, what's the weather? You should have to do that It's five different sentences and it's a prompt that you have to do. Yeah, that's true because I. you have to have a good voice. Sorry. Well, here we are here, both of us with really good voices. Those excellent voices. Voices for podcasting. Tsunami, boo, deam, homosexual. Okay, great. Love that for us. And then, and then a week later, and then, and then a week later, we met, just like that, and just like that, a week later. We met again off, off of Grindr. Yeah, because you were saying you wanted to have a slut summer and then I came along and said, oh, I really did. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to nail you. Nail you down. Oh my God. Oh my God. Whoa. Pin you down. No, um, you can't pin me down. Put a ring on it. Let's say that that's better. Yeah. But you didn't really do that, did you? No, but I generally did. Like I have him wearing a ring. But you didn't put the ring really on me. And also you didn't propose to me. Yeah, you didn't propose to me. Why is the assumption that I would propose to you? Why the fuck would I do that? Why the assumption? What the fuck? What would you think would, why would you assume, why the fuck would you think? I, I would ask a man. Why would you assume that you put the gender roles into here? You said, let me stereotype that I should be the one What you're saying, that I should be the one to propose to you. Why would I have done that? Why would I not, why would I have fucking married now? So it doesn't matter. Doesn't it fucking out? But it's, I want to know the fuck up. Shut the. Fuck. Fuck. Because you could have easily proposed to me, but you didn't. Ew. Why would I do that? Why would I ask a man anything? Why would I have asked a man anything? Anyway, And then we went to Toronto Pride the next year. No, we didn't. Yes, we did. We did. Go to Toronto Pride. The Toronto Pride. Toronto Pride. Anyway, we don't need to talk about every single fucking pride we've been to. Well, I was giving a general gist of everything that we've done. that. That was the weird pride.'cause again, my friend who came to visit me in Berlin came to visit me in our first Toronto apartment. Love you girl. Love you. She's not listening. Don't worry. Okay, great. She's not listening so we can shit on her. She doesn't have social media, so she came to visit. Love. Great. Amazing. Don't, don't shit come visit. Don't, I'm not shit, I'm not shitting. But when you come to visit for pride, don't go to the store and buy cowboy boots. Oh, she bought cowboy. She like drifted cowboy boots and then she like needed to go home early'cause she was like, her feet were on fire because they were not broken in properly. Sister love you. And she wore them to pride. Was she wore to pride? Bad idea. Oh, she just texted me this morning actually. That was also, that was a fine pride. I didn't know what, because we didn't know what was going on really. Toronto Pride was our first time that we got a collaboration for Pride. That was the second year. Well, not, not, not collaboration for pride, but like we got in the pride for Parade. Guys, listen, the year is 20. The guys, guys listen. The year is 2019. We are hired by Lyft, the Rideshare App. Popular Rideshare app, Lyft, to be on their float with a bunch of other influencers and Brooklyn Heights and. Well, it was hot as fuck. It's like end, it's the last weekend of June in Toronto. June. Yeah. So it's hot as balls and we had to be there super, super, super fucking early and I knew that they wouldn't have like alcohol on the flow. So I like packed like. little flask of tequila and put it in my pussy. That's a great idea. And then I kept giving it to Brooklyn Heights and she was like, I love warm tequila. Thank you so much. It was so, it was boiling. Yeah. No, it wasn't just hot. It wasn't just warm, it was boiling tequila. I also te like so ti stimulate, stimulate overlayed. I what? Oh my God. Oh my god. Stimuli overlayed. That's enough guys. I'm just gonna go, I'm just gonna turn this, this is, this is the end of the show. Sorry you so much. I'm just gonna go, I'm just gonna go have a nap. Okay. Bye. Stimuli overlayed is the craziest thing that anyone's ever said. Ti I just wanna like break that down. Stimuli overlayed. Just fucking con still. Oh my God. Do you remember that woman who was on the, the news broadcaster who was like, she had a heavy rotation. It's very hav heavy rotation, but she had a stroke. I think I just had a stroke. You might have, she had like a mini stroke she'd. Like, are you still functioning? Stimulate overlayed. That was crazy. Overstimulated. Overly stimulated. Yes. Stimulate overlayed. Crazy work. I'm gonna say that from now on. Stimulate overlayed. I said the first word and I was like, that's not right, but I'm gonna say, I'm just gonna say it. So guys, right now, I'm almost overly stimulated. No stimulate over related. Just sounds so much better. Stimulate over related. That sounds so good. Like it feels really right to say. That was crazy. Guys, we have fun here on the podcast. Let's dig in. Thanks for coming to dinner and hearing me have a mental breakdown every week. You were overstimulated. You were overstimulated. We left the fucking. Float after waving at people for like hours and hours. The thing with being on a pr, the thing with being on a pride parade, stop sniffling. Oh my God. The thing with being on a pride flow is that standing there dancing and waving at people for multiple, multiple hours, sorry, it's not fun. It's not that fun. Unless you're gonna cut me a fat check. I'm not. I'm not doing, it's worse if you have to walk the entire way. Oh, I would never. Are you fucking kidding? Because then sometimes the, the floats stop. Right? They stop for like a period of time. So you're just stood there. No, I do what in the baking sun? I just like wave at people. Yeah. Which is like do your little routine. I don't know. Like, I'm sorry. No, I'm not doing that for the bank. Banks have pride. Yeah. Go. Yeah. Lift up. Lift up. Yeah. Lift ride, share. Live, ride shares. I love them when they do things for the community, not just like be at the, for sure. I mean, they do. Some of them do. Yeah. Some of'em don't anymore. Anyway, we got paid and we got like, and we drank warm tequila and I think we got like Lyft credits for the summer, I think. So it was like, it was a good, it was a good deal. That's pretty good. That's pretty, actually, that's a pretty good deal. Let me, let me say yes to that. And this was before Brooklyn was like big from drag race and everything. This was before she did US Drag Race. She was just a local, she was a local queen. She wasn't, huh? She wasn't. Huh? No, she wasn't, wasn't she? Because we got our dog at the beginning of 2019. She was on Drag Race that year. Oh, we got our dog at the beginning of 2019 when Drag Race was airing. That's why we named our dog Evie, because she was a ganglia weirdo. Correct. After Evie Hudley. Ah. So, and they were on the same and I was listening. Oh my God. Really crazy. I was listening to, sorry, not sorry. By Demi Lovato on the Drive Home.'cause it was just on my playlist and in my mind. Yeah. That song is sung by Brooklyn Heights. A hundred percent. Like it's not sung by anybody. It's not sung by Put Lovato. I, it's just like, I can't hear that song without hearing the screams of the judges behind. Yeah, I know. Behind the song too good. Anyway, What the fuck was I saying? Anyway, I wasim overlay and then we had to like, so good go and meet our friends after and like go for like drinks and go to like the green space and then like go party. And I was like, I don't want to, I'm too tired now. Yeah. It was so much and then it was, and then we did so much more. It was so much, it's so hard being gay. It really is. It's like really difficult. It really is. And then. When you go to multiple prides in a year, which we did last year, we did in 2022, we did six prides in 2022. Sometimes list them. Sometimes I just, it's what do I have to be proud of? At the end of the day, this is a question you have to ask yourself every day. You six one and you're like, am I really that proud? You have to ask yourself, what are, what are we, what do we have to be proud about 2022, we left Canada and we, we were in the process of getting my green card, so we had to stay in Europe for like five months. Yeah. We had nothing about her to do. June, July, August, September, October. It was like four months. We had nothing to do. So, so we went to, first we went to Paris Pride. Yeah. Then we went to London Pride. Yeah. Then we went to Madrid Pride. Madrid Pride by accident.'cause we didn't know it was gonna be Madrid Pride.'cause we had tickets for that festival. Mm-hmm. All things go No, no. Uh, permis. Mad Cool, mad Cool Festival. What a random name. We saw Florence in the machine. Now we did see Florence. I was like, I was like. Spitting distance. She could spit in my mouth. That's how far away she was. I would prefer if she did. Yeah. Didn't or did? Did. Oh good. Of course. I was like, okay, come on, come on. Madrid by mistake. Yeah, it was so fun. I. Berlin. Berlin. Oh yeah. We went back to Berlin. So we celebrated our fifth year anniversary of meeting in Berlin during Berlin Pride. We went to Berlin Pride. Yeah, and then fuck Me. Can I remember Brighton? Brighton Pride. Brighton right after which I was the best one. Really? Fun was the best one. Really fun. Brighton Pride was the best one. Not best, but like fun. Brighton Pride was the best one. Madrid Pride we didn't really do much for. We didn't because we were at the festival. I just know it was better for for sure. But Bright and Pride was fun'cause all of our friends were there. I love Paris Pride too. Who's Paris? The vibes were fun. I can't remember. Oh yeah, the vibes were fun. The vibes were fun. Yeah. Vibes were fun. Yeah. The vibes were fine. I just remembered. I remembered. Yeah, I, the vibes were fine. Okay. Bright and Pride was the best it turns out. And then we went to Malta for Pride, and then by that point I was like, you know what? I've had enough girl. No. We got into Malta for the last pride, and we got into our apartment. And I think we were, the was so nice. The apartment was so nice. The apartment was great. It was really big. It was really nice. But we been traveling for like three months, four months by By this point. Yeah. And we were supposed to go to a party that night. Bear in mind we left Toronto at the beginning of June. Yeah. And then now this is the middle of September. Yeah. And we're in Malta. Yeah. Uh, and I was like, what the fuck am I doing in Baltimore? There was a party that night, there's Pride Party that night, and I was like. Do you just wanna like get some Indian Yeah, I was like we auto an India or an Indian? Indian and just like watch tv. Yeah. Like heavy British population. So you knew the Indian food was gonna be like pretty good. And it was great. It was great. And we didn't do anything for that pride. We, I didn't, I didn't see a single gay flag. No, we didn't go out. I saw many gay fag, we stayed. Oh, okay. I'm gonna have to Google Ash Chat. GPT, if you can use the word, the F word, I can censor or whatever the F word on the, don't censor me. Actually do not censor me. This is an uncensored podcast. Exactly. It's also explicit. So explicit, explicit mean, like curse words or like You can, you can explicit and I'm a gay man, so it's okay. Well you've been saying pussy a million times. and then, then we, and then we moved here and then the year after that we went to San Francisco Pride, which is our first San Francisco pride. And then we met all of our best friends and then, and then I died and everything was perfect. I cannot think about San Francisco Pride last year because I was, I don't wanna talk about it. Not, well, that's not, I don't wanna talk about it. Unwell. So we also say that like, you know, pride is like, you know, we're, what are we doing? Like what are we, what are we doing? We're like fundraising, we're like trying to raise awareness. We're also like, it's so important for like smaller communities to have pride events. Especially like this year with the like mass, DEI, um, yeah. Rollbacks. Yeah. All of these smaller towns are having all of their like funding cut for Yeah. Pride events. Yeah. And what do they do? Yeah. Like some of these events are like salvation for so many people that live in these like smaller towns, like a, in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. And it's a, it's the only way that they can like, have community and like mm-hmm. Be around people and actually get to know. The community at large, um, and just also like, feel like they're free and it's how I feel about Queer Eye, like right Queer Eye is like great for like straight people and like baby Gaze and like people who like need to see themselves represented and like. All that jazz, but for me, in the stage of life I'm at, it's so corporate and it just feels like nonsensical. Especially in a major city. Yes. Because like what do we do at Pride? Like what do we do and what does the general gay male population mm-hmm. Party and some lesbians Yeah. Do for Pride Party and everyone else in the. Party go to parties. Oh, okay. I was like, am I right? We go to parties. Yeah. We go to this day party on the Saturday, and then we go to that day party on the Sunday. Yeah. And then we go to this party and then that party. I think there are different purposes for pride because I think the, the partying for pride, it might seem trivial, but it is a part of that strong part of the celebration, like so celebrating and being free and being able to just like. Go make out with people or just like have drinks with your friends or just like have fun. That's a key part of pride. Like a key part of pride is just having fun and dancing. Oh, isn't that that book? Yeah. Gay bar. Why We Went out? Yeah, just like being out and dancing and having a fun time. That is just as important as protests and raising awareness and all of that. I agree. I agree. I do think like people have different purposes for pride. Like my purpose right now isn't for self identity. And like going and out and seeing rainbows and seeing and seeing representation.'cause like I'm I personally me, I'm good for that. Yeah. Yeah. What it all is, what other purposes are raising awareness and helping other people who might not be as fortunate as I am or in the same place. Yeah. And another purpose is having fun and just like letting loose and dancing. Totally. Because pride is joy and community. Yeah. It's just mostly community. It's like that's what I love about Pride now. Yeah. Is just being able to spend time with like all of my. Queer friends. Exactly. Just like all these gay people that I all of a sudden know and that's a beautiful, we moved to San Francisco, like before we moved to San Francisco, we didn't really have that many gay friends. Mm-hmm. Toronto, we had like a handful of close friends. Mm-hmm. Pandemic. The pandemic really squashed our ability to make friends. Mm-hmm. Throughout most of that time. But we moved to San Francisco and then all of a sudden we've been here for two and a half years and I know like. Everybody. Yeah. I feel like I know so many people now. Yeah. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, it's great. That's why I love, I love, sometimes it's not a beautiful thing'cause I hate a lot of people, but I mean, we can talk about that. No, no, no. Um, I What's have to be proud of to hate? Well, that is an important point that I wanted to bring up. That's a little bit, an important point. An important point. Because generally as influenzas, as the Spanish influenzas. Yeah. Um, as influencers, a lot of our pro, a lot of our general income in the past has been centered around two main periods of the year, Christmas in the holidays, and pride, two main points of the years where we get a lot of our campaigns and have in mo for like most of our careers as influencers. Yeah, in the past couple of years, there has been a shift, huge shift, big shift that we felt in our careers and that you can visibly see in marketing campaigns and in corporate, the corporate world. And just like looking out into the world, like corporations as a whole are shifting away from pride, And the, the pride activation and like the pride budget that they've had, like it is shifting away because we do still get pride campaigns, but not to the same level that we have in the past. Yeah. No. Well, you can really tell, you can tell that brands are like less pride, pride focused. Yeah. And that has something to do with our also, they're not even less pride focused. Like, it, it was a API month. I didn't see a single. Yeah. Other Asian creator do anything pro A API related. Yeah. And it was Black History Month. I didn't see a single, like these brands, especially like beauty brands like these, these times of the year, it's their like moment to kind of like spotlight a lot of creators who are part of this community. Yeah. And build up and like make their community. Yeah. And no one's been doing it recently and it's not because of. Because you might be saying like, oh, brands are just like not spending as much influ money on influencers. No brands are spending like this. It's continuously growing every single year. How much brands are spending on influencers, they're just not putting it on these specific months and seasons dedicated to diversity. Mm-hmm. Um, and that's very telling of just like this year, especially with like the Trump and the DEI and everything. And it just like, I think there's a lot of pressure on these corporations to, I think there's two things. There's, there's pressure on the corporations to, um, not. Support, pride in all these initiatives from the right wing. And there's not as much pressure from the left wing for them to do it because I think we're all done with the corporations. Like we're all like, why do we care if corporations support pride and do all these initiatives? we see support, like the support is good from someplace like Abercrombie. They always donate a certain amount to Trevor Project. Amazing. Yeah. But generally it does. It is performative for the majority of brands. But then like, where's the line? Where can you say like, oh, you are a brand and you are supporting Pride. You have a Pride collection, you're gonna be donating X amount of money from that collection to like the Trevor Project per se. Yeah. And then where's the line and where do you draw the line? By being like, actually, I don't think that this is like this. This feels like you're kind of doing this to just like. Be part of like a trend that's happening right now or like you want to like seem like you're doing more than you actually are because this is the case with a lot of brands.'cause you have like, I don't know, big telecommunications companies that are owned by humongous Republicans. Mm-hmm. And they have donated and continue to donate so much money to the Trump campaign and mm-hmm. Republican party overall. And then they'll have this like pride campaign and I'm like, that's disingenuous because that's why you have to like. We have to use our brains. Yeah. Crazy. Let's put on our thinking caps and look over, like look at, uh, look at these brands as a whole and like what they do their entire years, which we don't. Yeah.'cause we forget about like, everyone forgets about pride as soon as June's over and it's just a thing. But like, what are you doing throughout the year and do you just come to June and say, put on a rainbow on your logo and say like, cool. Done? Or do you. Do a massive donation in I, I think it's more important for these brands to do a massive donation like I think Abercrombie does, like 250,000 to the Trevor Project or something. Some massive number like that every year, no matter what the sales are from their pride collection. Yeah, that's good. We did a Abercrombie campaign like two years ago. Yeah, it's time. Two years ago we were like on the storefronts of like abercrombie's across North America and Europe. It was kind of crazy. Yeah. And. They donated like an X amount regardless of sales. They donated an X amount of money to the Trevor Project. Yeah. they also, for this pride campaign, they only hired queer creatives, a queer photographer, a queer, um, art makeup, makeup artist, I think Word. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gay. Um, the marketing, the marketing director. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gay. Um, various people in the L-G-B-T-C-Q community were like part of the campaign. Um, that is not performative because you see Abercrombie working throughout the year on these sorts of things. Yeah, just as an example. Um, I think milk makeup also does, I, we just, and House Labs. Yeah. They do great things, things all the time. House right now, house Labs through the month of June, house Labs is donating$1 of every Sephora sale to. to the Born, born This Way Foundation. Is that a foundation? Yeah. Born This Way. Foundation? Yeah.$1 from every house Lab's sale. That's amazing.'cause sometimes it's like, oh, we're gonna donate 5 cents. We're gonna donate a nickel every single time someone's bought, someone buys ours. Here's a spit. Yeah. Here's a piece. Here's my spit. Here's a as a donation. Yeah. But that's pretty good though. I mean like house lab sales are for like fucking crazy and the products are incredible. Yeah, exactly. So like, like put your money where your mouth is. Yeah. I'm sorry. Do it that, that I don't care. That I think because you also, like, you can see, like, you know, you've, you've experienced the target. The target ification. Mm. The target ification of like, Performative activism. Have you seen their pride collection? Do they have one? Yes. I'm surprised. It is the funniest shit. I'm surprised. Have you seen Levi's Pride Collection? I Levi's is always kind of cute. It's like wearable. It depends. It's not too like that one year it wasn't. Oh my God. There was one year. Okay, sorry. Levi's do love you. What year was this? It was when we were in Toronto and they, they wanted us to do the campaign and I was like, I'm not wearing that. Sorry. 2020? Yeah. Two. They had like a one a, a denim jacket and on the back of it it said he, him, she, her, they, them. We crazy. That's crazy. Is Sorry. It was sorry. So we, we I get what they I get it. Get it. I get it. I get it. I understand. I get it. It was in the love, the idea. It was in the love, the enthusiasm. Hate the execution. Hate it, hate it. He, she, oh no, he, he, she, he, she did. And we blew hair barista. I'm like, you just took pronouns as a trend and just put it onto a. Levi's, vegan, vegetarian, non-binary. Gimme one. Exactly. Um, pride's target's pride collection is just so funny'cause they have these drag queen birds. What, what they just, birds Like what? They have birds that are dressed up in pride collection birds. And it's just these birds that are dressed up. Bird figurines celebrate pride. It doesn't make sense. What? What are these Pride, feathery, friend collectible, bird figurines. What does this have to do with pride? What do you just say? What does that have to do with pride? Tell me, I'm, I'm stimulate overlayed. Wait, tell me, is this collection? Yes. It's part of the pride collection. They're birds dressed as as, as Maria Antoinette. What? Why is the bird and the Maria Antoinette closed? What the fuck? Let them eat bird seed. What? You are joking. I'm not joking, joking. Is that what it's called? Let them eat Bird seed. No, that was just something I made up. That's funny. I know. That's so funny. Thank you. I'm funny God, let them eat bird seed. That's crazy. Wait, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. This is their pride collection. It's part of the Pride collection clothes. It's not wearables. There are wearables, but that's part, that's one of the, no, it's not just birds. The but the birds are a key part of their pride collection. What the fuck? I don't know why this is crazy, because what does, what do birds have to do with pride or target? This is, this is a recession in decay for sure. Shake that back because who's buying this? Someone? It's got 24 reviews. Wait, what are the reviews on the Marie Antoinette bird? It's so crazy. Wait, what is it? What is it? What is it? What? What is Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. this review, it's entitled, honey, please. Two stars. The library is open and this queen is not ready to fly. The Coop Dolla Storm over Antoinette five and dime Dolly Parton. No clue. But this queen is not so much ready for pride as she is ready for a redo. Who the fuck? And the next one is, that's funny. Funny. Yes. Love queen would adore more royalty ones. They love the birds. Who the fuck is buying this bird Enough? Also boycott Fucking target. You fucking losers, right freaks. This is what I was gonna say about Target. Target had their pride collection last year and they like removed. Yeah. Some items from it. They had binders, they had like binder swimsuits or something, but like they, they took away a lot of it because there was a lot of. Like I think the right wing backlash has always been there. Obviously also the fucking pussies. Target stand on business. Target is pussies. Target has, target has never stood on business. This is a target hate podcast. Tea Target has never stood on business because as soon as they get like one piece of backlash from any of their conservative, they used to conservative but fucks they fucking crumble. Like a crumble. Cookies aren't even crumbly, so they crumble. Like what the fucking crumbles. Oh, like a Nature Valley bar? Mm-hmm. They crumble like a nature fucking valley bar. There you go. And then all of a sudden. They fucking fold and they remove all that shit and they're like, oh, sorry. Oh, you don't like this pride collection? We'll remove it. Sorry. Don't worry. Oh, you don't like this DEI initiative? Well, don't worry, we're not doing that anymore. Yeah. Fuck you. Target you fucking clowns. He They are fucking losers and we don't support them. Bike, uh, on the topic of boycotting, yeah, Taylor Swift recently just released, I mean, she bought out her entire. Old discography. Yeah. Is that right? I saw TikTok. I haven't, I haven't kept up with that bitch. Sorry, TikTok. I don't give a fuck. Really? Um, people have been now excited to listen to her old, like non Telas version albums. Correct. Because she has, now she owns them all again. Sure. So she rebought, she bought her old collection. Sure. She did an Instagram post being like, there's a fucking lyric in one of her songs. Something about me. I don't know. You brought this up. I don't fucking know. Anyway. And then everyone's coming and people are like, oh my God, thank God I've been, I haven't listened to this song in like six years because it's, I mean, it's my favorite song in the whole world. Like, oh my God, I love this song so much. So the girlies do know how to boycott, but they don't, they still go to Starbucks and they still go to Target and they still eat a fucking McDonald's. And there is the tea, which are all trash establishments. I have to say, fucking hell. Anyway. Teas. That's my rant for the day. Wow. I'm angry. You just stood up. I'm, you just stood up on business. I'm Stu no one else is gonna, no. But we gotta, and that's what we do here. At least again here, I'm here I am. This pride month, standing on these bitches necks. Happy pride. Stand down. Bitches. Necks. Exactly. Put that on a fucking T-shirt and sell it. I, and I'll buy it and I'll donate the money. Would you buy it? And I'll donate the money. Let's merch. Happy Pride Month. Stand on Bitch's Neck. That's great. I love that copywriting. It. Oh my god. Stand on bitches. Next they fucking, yeah. That's so good. That was really good. Oh my God. Okay. I just feel like there's nowhere else we can go other than away, down, back to hell where we belong. Yeah. No, no. There's like, there's no, there's no like peaking from this moment of the episode, so I think that should just be like, do you know when the, the dinner party's like been so fun and you're like, okay, yeah. Now you have to go. Yeah. It's just like this conversation is getting old. Yeah. Bye. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, imagine we just ended that episode. Just ends. That's how we should have. That'd be kind of funny. Okay. Bye. I'm over this conversation. I'm leaving now. Then the ends, music plays. God bless guys. Celebrate pride. However you feel like you want to feel proud, be proud. Do proud or don't. Oh my God. Have do you know what I hate the most? Why we knew there should be a segment? What do you hate the most this week? Ooh. That's great. That's a great thing. Ooh, that's a great segment. That's a great segment. Okay, what do you mean? Let me keep changing our segments. We're like, let's end with like a fun game or like a fun like thing that we learned this week. This is actually, we're haters. What do I fucking hate the most this week? Okay, go. Do you know what I hate the most this week? What? In the Castro, there is one house. If this is your house, I'm sorry, but fucking take it down. There is a house and it has a little goose. LED in the window. Yeah. And it says, be gay, do crime. And every time I see that,'cause sometimes I have to park in front of it.'cause the only fucking spot in the area that's a parking spot, I have to see it. And I just like, oh. It gives me whiplash. No. The millennial goose needs to be, the millennial goose needs to fu and also do crime. Shut up. Like, what crime are you doing? You're not doing crime. You're not doing crime, you're not doing crime. You're, you're making parking in the wrong spot. You're not doing crime. You maybe got a parking ticket and you said, oh, I'm a criminal, and then cried about it. No, millennials need to stop, like they need to be stopped. As a millennial myself, you need to be stopped.'cause who is being gay and doing like, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. Who do I hate the most? Who, um, who, who is a different story. I've got many of those too. What? I, uh, God, I, can I say I hate the rainbow flag? You can say you hate the rainbow flag. Can I say I hate the rainbow flag? Yeah. You can say, because I hate rainbows. I hate rainbow merch. Let me just, mer merch is good. Rainbow mech. I get it. I do ha like, no, I, I appreciate the history of the rainbow flag, whatever. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't like rainbow things. I think it's ugly. I think if you can't do it well, you can't make it look nice. No, I have never seen what Paris Hilton was wearing at the WeHo. Pride was fine. It was actually cute and I was like, this is kind of nice. She wearing, but the majority of rainbow merch that you see at prize, pick a fucking color. It's so fucking ugly. I've seen rainbow suits. I've seen rainbow tshirts. Joe, you're gonna, you have to drive T-shirt. A lot of people who are probably gonna wear something cute. Pride related merch. Make it cute then. Sorry. Make it cute. you're a hater. You're a hater too. Yeah. I You just insulted the entire millennial generation and the goose lovers. No, that's just that one person. Imagine if they're like someone who like listens to our podcast and they're like, oh, that's my house. Sorry. If you don't wanna hear our opinions, don't listen to our podcast. Yeah, well, sorry, I don't like rainbows Anyway, and that's my tea. Okay. Wow. Hate month. Happy hate month, everyone. There's no pride without hate. You're so right. You know? Yeah. We have to have something to fight back against and I'm providing it. If you like this podcast, please give us a review on wherever you listen. Don't forget to follow us on all social media platforms. Thumbs up, don't thumbs down. Is that even something you can do? Thumbs down, diva. I don't know. Diva, I'll thumbs down. You and you'll be my most hated next time. Oh my God. I'm a little sassy today. You are a little bit sassy today. I don't know why. It's the, it's the demon pride, the spirit of Satan, the pride demon, the the spirit of BES above. Exactly. And with that, we'll see you fucking next time or not, but probably. What? Say something. Okay, then. Bye. Half a PR.