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Made in Spain
Whether you’re an expat chasing the dream, a traveller inspired by European elegance or a foodie seeking the perfect paella, Made in Spain is your insider’s guide to all things chic, cultural and quintessentially Spanish.
Join hosts Nalini Sharma and Laura Senior García for a glamorous mix of travel, food, fashion and the rich cultural narratives that make Spain a global icon of style and sophistication.
Nalini is a former Canadian TV presenter, who has previously covered red carpet and live events, and major news stories. She channels the same wit and curiosity to the Made in Spain podcast, offering sharp, unscripted takes on everything from Spanish traditions to expat surprises.
Laura, a seasoned leadership coach and global traveler, shares her deep, first-hand knowledge of Spain—not just as her birthplace, but as a country she continues to rediscover. With a British father and Spanish mother, she considers herself a global citizen with deep roots in Spain. Her insights connect Spain’s rich past with its modern evolution, offering a unique and personal perspective on life, culture, and luxury in Spain today.
Every episode of Made in Spain explores the country’s hidden gems and exclusive experiences, but it’s more than just a guide—it’s a conversation.
The show’s Slice of Life segment gives listeners an unfiltered peek into Nalini and Laura’s daily experiences – the joys, frustrations, and unexpected moments that make life in Spain, and beyond, full of surprises. Sometimes, it’s about the reality of settling into a new country – at other times, it’s about their travels, funny mishaps, or behind-the-scenes stories from researching the podcast. No matter the topic, listeners feel like they are right there with them, stepping into their world.
Made in Spain
Cocktail Culture of Spain
Laura and Nalini take a deep dive into Spain’s sophisticated drinking culture in this episode of Made in Spain. They begin with the country’s ‘gin tonic’ revolution of the late 1990s, when Michelin-starred chefs started experimenting with balloon glasses, industrial ice and botanical garnishes, creating a much-loved Spanish interpretation of the classic cocktail. They also explore Spain’s indigenous drinks, including the Carajillo—traditionally a 50/50 mix of espresso and Spanish liqueur—and the Madrid-born Yayo, a refreshing blend of vermouth, gaseosa and gin.
In the Slice of Life segment, the pair attempt to recreate the 'Made in Spain' cocktail, mixed for them at Nova Bar in Benidorm. Meanwhile, they reflect on the country’s relaxed approach to alcohol, from the normality of daytime drinks to the famously generous pours served without the use of measures.
Salud!
there is no nightlife in spain. They stay up late, but they get up late. This is not nightlife, this is delaying the day, famously, said ernest hemingway. Another one by Hemingway, and I'm going to steal this one. I drink to make other people more interesting. I love that, and the last one's a little bit kind of sad, but it is a cool one from Oscar Wilde After the first glass, you see things as you wish they were. After the second, you see things as they are not. And finally you see things as they really are. And finally you see things as they really are, and that is the most horrible thing in the world. So it's a good motivation to not drink too much.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have a question for you now. Tell me in which movie did james bond first say shaken, not stirred um. Some choices for you. Is it goldfinger? Diamonds are forever, or the man with the golden gun? Diamonds are forever? No, goldfinger. Oh.
Speaker 2:1964 with sean connery okay, yeah, the best james bond really viva, sean connery okay, no, we'll talk about okay, we'll talk about that another time. Welcome, cheers, cheers. We are your co-host, laura senor garcia and melini sharma. Welcome to made in spain. Episode three, season two the cocktail culture in spain what are we? Drinking. We are drinking a gin and tonic not gin and tonic here gin ton tonic, exactly Because us Spanish people, for some reason, decided to take out the ant, and it's just gin tonic.
Speaker 1:That is actually the name of the drink, gin tonic. I mean, it's hard. We sort of chatted about sangria before, where it's tried to be a little, you know, the drink of Spain, but I don't think that's true.
Speaker 2:I really think it would be more gin tonic now and you know we've had discussions around the rise and fall of the gin tonic because, about you know, a few years ago, particularly, you know, coming up to COVID and that whole time I mean it was just incredible, like you'd go to places and they'd have 300 options for different gins, different tonics. You know, it just became a really big thing and I think people were really bored during the lockdowns and they were kind of learning how to make gin tonics and they were, you know, mixing up all this different stuff in it and using those cool spoons to break the bubble of the tonic. So definitely I would say that gin tonic is a big part of the drinking culture here, for sure.
Speaker 1:I'll say that when we first moved to Mallorca, it was a thing to actually go out for gin and tonic. Yeah, it was just a thing, and I never really had it before other than the odd time. But the way they make a gin and tonic here, or sorry, gin and tonic.
Speaker 1:It's from the late 90s, early 2000s. As far as I the little bit of research that I've been able to do that chefs, these, you know, michelin star chefs. Spain really started to blow up in the world in terms of gastronomy, yeah, and had a lot of michelin star restaurants exactly and, and it was sort of in that phase, that craze that they.
Speaker 1:It's almost like a think tank where they started to experiment with different things, how to elevate certain things. It was the chefs who started drinking the gin, gin tonics in the big balloon glass with the big cubes of ice, which, by the way, is actually referred to as gas station ice, I found and the only reason I say that is because-. Because, everybody goes to buy it at the gas station.
Speaker 1:They go to the gas station. But also they said, whether you're in a Michelin star restaurant or the gas station, you're getting the same type of ice, and it's kind of like industrial ice is the way I would describe it.
Speaker 2:It's eyes that last a lot longer which is better? For the drink. It's better for the drink, not sure exactly what's in there other than water, but it does last a lot longer but that's how it started to catch on.
Speaker 1:So they would do these kind of, I think, meetings and try to come up with different recipes and ingredients, and then the drink just started to catch on, and from the north, well you know, into Barcelona, and then just kind of started to become a thing along the coast.
Speaker 2:And now it's, I think, that gin tonic has become a caricature of what it originally was so I mentioned to Nalini when we were preparing and doing the rest of the research for this episode and this was pretty comical. Another place that is big on the culture for gin tonics is portugal yes and I have the chance to travel to angola sometimes and oh yeah, that's so funny yes.
Speaker 2:So the angola has a very, very large portuguese influence as well, so gin tonics are pretty popular. There's actually a few local places in luanda and the capital of Angola that have, you know, gin manufacturing facilities. They make their own gin. So I ordered the gin at a hotel where I was staying there and it was pretty funny because what came back was more like a salad of stuff. So you know, normally in the gin you want to kind of take a few things that highlight the actual gin, like some will put in like cucumber or citrus or cinnamon or anise, not everything in the same glass. But you know, I think again they're trying to absolutely do their best and it's like, ok, everything is going in there, so including the cucumber, the fruit, the cinnamon, the anise, everything in the same drink.
Speaker 1:That's really funny. Yeah, when I went back to Toronto after living on this side for a while, the first summer I went back, I started making gin and tonics at a barbecue.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I took.
Speaker 2:The balloon glasses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with the balloon glasses, and I took the little mixer things that they sell very commonly here in stores where you get the cardamom and little.
Speaker 2:And we have some in the glass, yeah, red peppercorns I also.
Speaker 1:I mean these are dried roses, dried bear, I mean the list goes on.
Speaker 2:Oh, it gets fancy. You can have like gin tonics with gold leaf in it, everything.
Speaker 1:But I, so I started making it at the barbecue, just to show like this is the way people drink gin and tonic, you know, in Spain, and oh my God, that was, I mean a cultural hit.
Speaker 2:I that was, I mean a cultural hit. I can tell you that when I've been to the us and I've ordered a gin and tonic and I have to really fight against my urge to be offended when they serve me a gin and tonic in a glass that's like a tube glass. I know it's like. What are you doing?
Speaker 1:like, I cannot drink this in this glass.
Speaker 2:No, and it's just not the same like for me. It's like the only way I'm going to drink a gin and tonic is in a one of these big balloon glasses there's no, going back after you, kind of start.
Speaker 1:No, you know, and lots of tonic trying the good stuff, yeah, so, except for how they pour here, which is a lot of gin, yes, so that's sometimes light on the tonic word of warning for people who are coming over here and you're going out. Please know that a lot of times they don't use measures actually the only bar I've seen them use a measuring is nova yeah, and that's british owned, british run, and most people that go there are british yeah, so that makes sense.
Speaker 2:So spanish bars as far as I can tell, do not measure, they just pour so the first time nalini and I went for a gin and tonic together, I was just like, oh you know, that was like a quadruple gin pour. And I'm trying to make eye contact with the waiter like stop stop please. You know, because it comes to a point where actually you deteriorate the quality and the taste of the drink, right also.
Speaker 1:You just can't. I mean that night. That was, I think, the first night we'd gone out, that we sort of became friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we'd gone out. We shared the one drink. We just kept diluting it in different glasses with more ice and he was like, oh, do you want? I'm like no more tonic, please, please. Anyway, it's funny.
Speaker 2:So this episode is all about cocktail culture, and we talked a little bit about the gin and tonic. One thing that you'll see is that anywhere in any of the big cities that you go to, be it Madrid, be it Barcelona, be it Valencia north you're going to find now some very high-end cocktail places that you can go to, right, ranked among some of the best kind of cocktail places in Europe, and people take a a lot of pride in it, and there's a number of different cocktails that we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2:but also the other thing that's quite cool is there's starting to be this culture of the speak easy here so bringing back these kind of like secret places that you have to have a password to go into and it's, it's uh, you know they have very, very unique cocktails. So really encourage for those who love the cocktail culture if you're going to one of the big cities, check on Instagram or any of the socials you know, like what are some of the kind of cool little cocktail places that you can find, because there's some very, very unique places that you can visit, especially in the big cities right now.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about this drink called the Yayo?
Speaker 2:When Nalini first asked me, she called me. She's like okay, I need to do some fact checking preparing for this episode. And she's like have you ever had a drink called yayo? And I'm like what a yayo. So, which means grandfather? It means grandfather, but the interesting thing is yayo and yaya it's like grandma, grandfather, grandma, grandpa, in valencian or catalan, okay, normally. So when you were mentioning about this, I'm like this is interesting. I've never heard about this. I then asked my mom yes, it's like hey, have you ever?
Speaker 1:and she's like nope, so it must be a madrid thing, it, it, it is so okay the ingredients in a yayo are three quarter ounces of dry gin, one slice of lemon, one and a half ounces of what is labeled as gaseosa.
Speaker 2:Gaseosa, which is like yeah, sweet soda.
Speaker 1:Soda yeah, it's just like a clear sweet soda. You can substitute with Sprite or 7-Up if you can't find it, and then one and a half ounces of sweet vermouth, spanish vermouth. So the history of it is that in Franco's time and before that, it was the old men that would gather for the vermouth hour, the drink Right. So a few hours before. The pre-lunch drink, the pre-lunch drink, and they would go to very traditional Spanish bodegas. There's a famous one in Madrid that's still holding on to its roots.
Speaker 2:They have not updated it, they have not given over to gentrification can you believe that the hipsters are trying to bring these places back? I actually follow two guys who are like trying to convince people to go to these old school cafes so that not everything turns into this kind of pretty gorgeous no, this is yeah bring back the like the crappy bars, you know really.
Speaker 1:But this bar is still a holdout and it's before I mean it's 50, 60 years old. The history goes back. It is called casa camachos.
Speaker 1:It is in the malasagna neighborhood so now the neighborhood is changing, but this bar is holding on to it and the drink was created by the owner at the time after franco fell and madrid started to modernize and they wanted to get rid of, you know, these old ways, anything that felt old school, exactly. They wanted to be modern, but you know they drink the vermouth on tap, yeah right. So he came up with this drink and it's called the Yayo, in sort of you know, homage to the older men that drank it. That's pretty cool. And in the neighborhood they don't say let's go to Casa Camachos, they say let's go to Los Yayos, los Yayos.
Speaker 2:Can I talk a little bit about vermouth? Yes, absolutely so. Vermouth is an interesting one, so kind of the same thing as that gin tonic. Instead of gin and tonic here is vermouth. Yeah, so in the actual name of the drink is vermouth. And you know it's Italian, it actually came from Torino. But the vermouth culture here kind of went through an up and down so late late 1800s. It was in the up and up and then it's kind of quietened for a while and now you actually go to a lot of bars that are called bermuderias. Same thing kind of the pre, it's the pre-launch drink yeah the by excellence it's.
Speaker 2:The pre-launch drink is not usually something that people would have at dinner or like late in the evening, but it's the kind of pre-lunch lunch apparently they still do it in barcelona. It's very common no, and in alicante even, there's a multiple vermouth areas where you can go and pick from all the vermouth, so one that we have here sauk. I just love, love this bottle. This is actually from alcoi, oh okay, which is also where we went for our Masia del Altel visit for the olive oil.
Speaker 2:It is a very interesting pretty bottle. So with vermouth you have rosé vermouth, white, the red and the dry. So there's four different kinds of vermouth. Interestingly enough, when vermouth came about here in Spain it was a luxury item. It was actually priced around the same as the highest end cognac that you could buy.
Speaker 1:And vermouth here is mostly sweet.
Speaker 2:No, yes, it's mostly it's got a bit of a kind of sweet touch and most people like have it with olives, right. So what? The Salles, which was one of the first brands to make vermouth here in Spain. What they did that was very clever is they immediately kind of got approval to distribute to the royal household.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see.
Speaker 2:Which is kind of like our low ever thing.
Speaker 2:You know smart people like you know a couple hundred years ago, the best thing that you could do for yourself was become an official distributor to, you know, the monarchy. And then that was like a stamp of like, hey, hey, if it's good enough for the monarchy, it's good for the people, right? So, and then vermouth really started taking off. It was also martini were one of the first to actually invest a lot of money in advertising and they popularized vermouth big time. So that's kind of a little bit about vermouth, which is.
Speaker 1:I think vermouth is to have its it's sort of its heyday now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you'll see it over the next few years that it'll become more popular, whereas maybe the gin tonic.
Speaker 1:It's not that it will not be popular it will.
Speaker 2:It's starting to kind of take more of a backseat, I believe you know, whereas before it's like oh, wow, and can we just talk about some of the things that they serve with cocktails here.
Speaker 1:So I just put out this little nut mix. What have you? But you get it in. I mean every single bar anywhere.
Speaker 2:So you'll either get olives, you'll get the nut mix, yeah, popcorn.
Speaker 1:Popcorn.
Speaker 2:Which is always like hmm.
Speaker 1:Something a little strange. And also they serve at times um sweets sweets like we call them gominolas little candy it's very funny that they will serve that. Yeah, I've actually had here, uh, carrots, carrots, carrots. I don't know why but I would be like excuse me they brought baby carrots, which I was really upset with, but like this is really this has kind of gone too far.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I've had baby carrots as a snack, potentially as a garnish. So I do think also that's what's worth mentioning about the cocktail culture here in spain is that you know, obviously, something that's not a cocktail, but you know beer is a huge, huge, like you know the cañas.
Speaker 2:But I think what's worth mentioning about the culture is socially acceptable very much to drink at lunch for most people very, it's normal so if you're in a work lunch, depending on if you're expected to go back to work or not, afterwards there'll be like one beer, one glass of wine, wine, but it's very, very normal, like it's socially acceptable, it's, you know, considered to be, you know, and if you go, let's say, for lunch with your family on a weekend, then everybody's ordering the vermouth and all of that with lunch or what have you yeah?
Speaker 2:Whereas I found that quite of a contrast when I first I remember going to a business meeting in in Houston, for example, and everybody's like drinking water and everything's like oh okay, so I guess there's no beer and wine here with lunch actually it's funny because when I was in Toronto I spotted I went for lunch with my son and it was quite early, um, I mean it was maybe 12, 12 15 for lunch and there were a few people in the restaurant.
Speaker 1:It was a nice italian restaurant, um, and there's a couple and they were clearly on a first date okay so yeah, I love it because I love eating shopping. Yeah, what could they possibly be talking about now? But they were having wine and here I would never even notice if somebody was having a glass of wine at First of all, people don't eat lunch here at 12. That's the other thing, but a beer, let's say, if you were out somewhere and it was noon.
Speaker 2:With the almuerzo, exactly Even with the mid-morning snack. For sure, they have the little herb shot sometimes. And of course we haven't mentioned as well the carajillo.
Speaker 1:Oh, sometimes, and of course we haven't mentioned as well the carajillo.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, okay, so this is the, I would say the og yeah, this is the og of the espresso martini, all the espresso martini. Talk now. The carajillo was where it started okay, so briefly explain how or when would people drink it I mean again, you know we have a cafe and we have a gentleman that comes in at 7 30 in the morning. I mean it's terrible and sometimes I feel like, oh, my goodness, should you really be giving someone you know, like us? But he's there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is his drink in the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's his morning drink so, yes, and I think, kind of going back to the Yayo thing, it is a little bit of a Yayo move, you know, to kind of order a Carajillo, because it's kind of a very strong. Usually it's a very strong liquor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, coffee and liquor together, coffee and liquor, of course.
Speaker 2:You know. So it'll definitely wake you up, I guess. But yes, definitely the Carajillo is something that you'll find. You'll be able to order the Carajillo in most bars in Spain, right, even coffee shops. Okay, interesting so it's kind of like a Spanish version of Irish coffee without the cream.
Speaker 1:Interesting, we might have to try it, but like you said, the OG of espresso martini.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there you go. Which I do not like, I don't like.
Speaker 2:But what I do find interesting is that all these drinks are making a comeback. Oh, the types of alcohol, the liquor from shoes yeah, it's like we said with the shoes it's, you know, it's fashions that come up and down. I mean I have to say we've come a long way because I, at least with this cocktail culture piece, because I mean I remember when you know I was first drinking cocktails, like you know, coming out of like teenagers and everything, I mean people drank red bull and vodka you know, it's like it wasn't fancy stuff, and now you can order nice cocktails in most places.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think it's progress and I would also say a pina colada is not a thing here, like people who come here and order a pina colada, like the only thing I can think about when you say pina colada is that song if you like piña colada it's not a thing here don't order it no, it is not if you think you're in Hawaii, you're not.
Speaker 2:You're not gonna look cool with a pina colada, all right, slice of life slice of life, episode three, season two, and we've got a little bit of an experience, plus our drop of tea coming back in this episode as well yes, let's talk about nova cocktail bar which, surprise surprise, located in benedorm shout out to alex smith, yes, who is the owner and one of the wonderful cocktail makers there and who was kind enough to make our made in spain cocktail for us yeah which we totally destroyed.
Speaker 2:Today His looks way better. Obviously not historians quote, not cocktail makers either, but so what's the recipe?
Speaker 1:Does it taste good? This is our cocktail. We told him the flavors that we both like and he made this specifically and it's called Made in Spain, like the Powerpuff Girls. Sugar and spice and everything nice Okay.
Speaker 2:So it was Blanco Tequila one and a quarter ounces. One ounce of lemon juice, three quarters ounce of coconut syrup, three quarter ounce of triple sec, two drops of a salt solution or a pinch of salt if you don't have salt solution around one or two drops of Tabasco, or a little more if you like it spicier, like we do, and then garnish with a mochi. Yeah, japan coming back to our lives.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as always you mentioned the, the monine right oh, yes, yes, the coconut syrup. Yeah, it's a the brand that he uses is monine, which is quite popular with bars and bartenders, etc. But it's quite thick and viscous, yes, but it smells delicious, yes.
Speaker 2:So it's very kind of like tropical actually. So let's try it, and then we'll talk a little bit more about the experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a little bit with the mochi.
Speaker 2:So let's try the cocktail Cheers Chin, chin, mmm, it's good. It's just crazy, but it works. I feel like the slice of life is like a very ASMR section when, hey, if you're into listening to people eat, this is for you and also the things we've had.
Speaker 1:This time has been a little bit difficult.
Speaker 2:Well, and now for the big part of asmr, of this episode. We have some nuts and the stuff, like we said during the episode that they serve, so I'm going to take just a couple of these kikos and do our usual crunch.
Speaker 1:So yeah, let's talk a little bit about nova. So it's located in benedorm, in the, on the spanish side, and it's right. It's basically opposite the church, it's you walk to the end and the it's on the corner. I think it's been there maybe about a year or so, a couple years maybe, do you think so I don't. Okay, actually I shouldn't say it. The first time we went there was a year ago. We went down for a lunch or a dinner, saw a cocktail bar and went in. We had a quick drink and left. He did remember us, though that was the interesting part from a year ago. Very friendly guy. He runs it. I think he's got a couple of bars here he's. Can we talk about it that he wants to open this?
Speaker 1:he has a secret project, so we shouldn't talk about it so it's a secret project, but it's another establishment that he's trying to work on in benidorm and they have no food there, so do not go, think and you're going to have snacks or anything. They serve.
Speaker 2:Oddly enough, these um little sweets, sweets candies, gummies, yeah, do I have sugar all over?
Speaker 1:no, do I? No, no, you're good they, and that's what they serve with the drinks. That's kind of what you get, or maybe what else? What did he bring his olives?
Speaker 2:yeah, they like the like, like the stuff we mentioned.
Speaker 1:You know little things to to pick out, but it's strictly a cocktail bar and they make really interesting cocktails too yes, and they're bringing some new stuff out.
Speaker 2:Also, we made an agreement with alex for those of you listening that do happen to pop over to benidorm and go to nova. If a hundred people or more ask for our made in spain cocktail at nova, he will put it on the menu. So go. People ask for the made in spain cocktail.
Speaker 1:It is actually delicious, even though it may not look like it it's very really.
Speaker 2:He will put it on the menu. So go. People ask for the Made in Spain cocktail. It is actually delicious, even though it may not look like it.
Speaker 1:It's really really good.
Speaker 2:If you like coconut, oh yeah, absolutely, that is a must. If you want to try this cocktail, you have to have to like coconut and it was very interesting because he said some of their most popular cocktails.
Speaker 1:They do a lot of market research to find out what people want to drink and what they're going to even like.
Speaker 2:Think of trying so they actually do a lot of Bloody Marys yes, they do a master class there, yes, so if you've got five people and you want to sign up to actually, you know, do a master class of cocktails, and it's actually very reasonably priced. I think he said 35 euros and you know all the drinks are included. So, yeah, it's fun and it's actually very reasonably priced. I think he said 35 euros and you know all the drinks are included.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's fun and he's a really fun guy. He's a very interesting guy, he's very fun. He makes the experience nice. It's a nice little place to stop if you're right near Tapas Alley, if you want to go eat something after or just go for a walk at the lookout.
Speaker 2:And if you feel like you have done something wrong by drinking a cocktail, you can go to the confessionary, to the church, and repent. Right next door, right next door. Okay, so that's a little bit about our experience in Nova. Really highly encourage people to go there and, like I said, try and make the Made in Spain cocktail. Ask for it. I am sure that if you, you know, try you'll maybe be able to make it a little prettier than us, so go for it.
Speaker 2:Ours is a bit of a train wreck, but it's all right actually it looks like we're drinking uh milk, you know, but it promise you it is a cocktail. You can look at the video on socials. So for the slice of life and for the drop of tea, today we wanted to talk about an interesting subject, so a little bit of gossip, but a little bit of gossip so on.
Speaker 1:Uh, I guess streaming platforms. Now there's the new season, or first season, of the baldwins, which is, as far as I, what. I watched the first episode. Um, it is quite a chaotic. Look at their lives, alec Baldwin and his wife, ilaria Baldwin. She has adopted that name even though she was born, hillary Thomas, in Boston to American parents. Mother, father, father, I think, is from the Midwest, but she has adopted the Spanish persona and for years people thought she was from Spain.
Speaker 2:Well, she, let's put it this way, did not correct it when the press made it seem that way.
Speaker 1:She talked around it many times. When they would say, she said oh, I never lied, never lied.
Speaker 2:I said I'm from Boston yeah, I don't know about that, so let's kind of put it out there. I was raised here. My mother is Spanish. I was raised in a Spanish mostly household. My, my dad spoke English, but you know so and I think I have less of a thick accent than she puts on she also forgets words in English. She pretends like pepino cucumber.
Speaker 1:Yeah, doesn't know what certain words are in English anymore. Um, it's just very strange, and I just thought it was sort of topical, because the show is out now, if you have really nothing else to do, and you want to see. Yeah, you want to see what a chaotic life is? Watch that show, because they have seven children and the last one they refer to as baby I think they ran out of names. They either ran out of names or they have forgotten that child's name, so I don't know.
Speaker 1:The child is only referred to as baby.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it works for a while. So Nalini asked me in preparation for this episode, you know, like, what's your take on it, like what is your true perspective on this? And I said, well, I think it's kind of flattering. You know the fact that someone would want to be, you know Spanish, you know it's kind of nice. It says a lot about maybe people do appreciate and and her parents are living in Majorca.
Speaker 2:A lot of her family lives here and you know we're not trying to kind of take a stab at Hilaria Baldwin and she wants to come on the show and talk to us about it. We're all for it but it is pretty comical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, talk to us about it, we're all for it, but it is pretty comical. Yeah, the first time I found, because when I first heard her I was like whoa, this lady has a really thick spanish accent. Since she was called out in the press, she's toned it way down and yeah. And then when people started coming out saying her name is not elaria, her name's hillary.
Speaker 1:You know well, somebody from boston yeah, somebody posted that went to school with her because it was she. She was just in the. I mean, she's not an actress, she just married. She married Alec.
Speaker 2:Baldwin, I think she's a yoga teacher.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is? That's fantastic, but it her fame, was because she was with somebody famous, so maybe it was easy to kind of, you know, adopt that persona when you're not in the public eye.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you weren't in the limelight, right. And now you're thrust into that and you've kind of put this out there, maybe amongst close friends and family, and it's a thing that you it's like as if you put on a dress. You know you're embodying that, but now you're out there. And somebody finally commented who went to school with her and said her name is Hillary and she grew up in america and I went to school with her and she did not have an accent and from there it kicked off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's yeah, so it is interesting, it's interesting if you like to read about gossip, there's also a really good podcast called scandal that talks about it a little bit more. So definitely, uh, you know here hear what they have to say. But we wanted to bring it in as a kind of tie in with Made in Spain, interested that people would admire Spain enough to want to be Spanish. How's that All right.
Speaker 1:Phrase of the day.
Speaker 2:Sentence of the day. And since we did this episode about cocktails and I had to go a little spicier, so please don't kill me, okay. So if there's a beep on this, you know where it's coming from. All right, nalini. So I am going to tell you the sentence of the day, but I'm also going to use the glass to symbolize it. So the phrase of the day is el que no apoya, no folla.
Speaker 1:Anybody else know what this means?
Speaker 2:El que no apoya, apoya is to lay your glass, and I'm not going to say it again, but no peep. So do you want a translation?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Okay, if you don't rest your glass, you're not getting laid.
Speaker 1:oh, well, what does that mean?
Speaker 2:it, you will, so this is really really funny. The next time you sit with spanish people at a table, and people are having a drink. You watch this because they won't say it, because it's kind of rude and it's like you know, obviously it's like the f word or whatever. Yeah, so what they'll do is they'll look at you and people will go this is like a superstition is like because if you don't do that it's a superstitious sort of like if you don't rest your glass, you're not going to get lucky, or whatever.
Speaker 2:So, oh my god people will do that like they'll kind of like you know, like okay is anybody, this is really, really funny that.
Speaker 1:Okay, it makes sense, because lunch here lasts seven hours, so you better put your glass down, exactly, all right? Well, on that note, laura, cheers, cheers.
Speaker 2:Salute chin chin everyone for joining us for episode three, season two. Yeah, can't wait to see you for the next few episodes. So you know what's coming up. We're going to be talking about the Fallas in Valencia Paella, paella, the one and only amazing meal in Spain, particularly in the coast, and we're going to be visiting the Alhambra in Granada. Thank you.