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Ep14: Minisode: Amy's Haunted House

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Join Amy and Dawn as they chat about some creepy stories, with Amy recounting the strange paranormal happenings in her childhood home—and things get even weirder later in life. Get ready for ghostly tales, eerie encounters, and a little ”what just happened?!"

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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,680 [Music] 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome to me, where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal, and horror. 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:27,920 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,360 especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me. I have a very extensive crystal collection. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. A few fun facts about me. 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:50,240 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls and you know, I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that? 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Now Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, so here we are. Talk Gruesome to me. 8 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:03,760 All right, welcome into this mini-sode. I know that a lot of you did show interest when we were talking 9 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:11,040 before about the house that I grew up in, how it was active and how a lot of the times it scared me 10 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,720 to death. So we thought we would do a quick little minisode and I'll tell you about it. 11 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:23,440 Yeah, people were definitely asking for more details. Yeah, it's one of those houses that, 12 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:33,040 it definitely made me really believe. I spent a lot of time in the upstairs bedroom. The upstairs 13 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:40,400 of my home was a just the full size of the upstairs. It was a three bedroom home. We had a spare bedroom. 14 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:47,680 We had my mom and dad's room and then mine upstairs. I stayed up there for, I would say probably a year 15 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:54,160 at a time or so, and then something would scare me. I don't remember exactly what each thing was 16 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:01,120 that would scare me. But I would get scared, move back down to the other bedroom and I remember I 17 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:08,880 went as far as to get a twin bed, put it in there and fix it up. So like, I pretty much had two bedrooms. 18 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:17,200 It was crazy. I went through a lot of hearing voices and walking scuffling, you know, just kind of, 19 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:23,760 I had a lot of walking scuffling, like someone trying to get across the carpet in the room. It was just 20 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:32,240 really, really crazy things that I didn't know how to explain. I remember I hadn't lived there very 21 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:38,080 long, and one of my friends, Shanda. Her parents had lived there before or not her parents, her grandparents. 22 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,840 Let me correct myself, had lived there before and I remember we were upstairs playing, and we were 23 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:49,040 sitting at the top of the steps by the closet. She looks over at me as we were playing and she said, 24 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,160 'you know this house is haunted don't you?’. It kind of started making  a little bit of sense, because 25 00:02:54,160 --> 00:03:02,800 I already experienced some things, so after that I was 100% intrigued with that house. My parents really 26 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:11,200 didn't believe in spirits, in the paranormal. I really didn't open up and go to them a lot because 27 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:18,160 what was really the sense in it you know no sense. Yeah. How old were you when you moved in there? 28 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Oh my gosh, I was young, I was in the second grade when we moved there. My dad, that's a funny 29 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,960 story too. Mom had went and got me from school that day and we had went home. We had lived in a trailer 30 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,000 out on this, I loved it that was a great piece of land. I had my first paranormal experience there 31 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,520 actually but we had lived out on this real nice piece of land out in the country. Had a pond of 32 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:47,680 our own and I was happy there. I wasn't thinking about anywhere else. Dad come home that one day 33 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:54,080 and he said, 'come on let's go to town, I've bought a house. So, we go to town and get to go through it. He 34 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,880 had bought it at auction and knew that it needed a little bit of work on the inside. He said, ‘it's 35 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,400 gonna be a little bit before we get in there, but this is where we're gonna live’. I didn't know 36 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:10,000 that house would stay with me until just two years ago actually. I remember when 37 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:16,480 you used to investigate there and even seeing that I had questions, you know how how long you had 38 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,400 lived there, when you moved in? It is cool though that you know the people that lived there before so 39 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:29,440 they could kind of corroborate these things that were happening. Right, yeah she said that she was scared 40 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,440 to live there when, I guess when she would stay. I think upstairs there wasn't proper heating 41 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:41,680 And air when they had it, that had to be done by us. They were trying to use it as like a sewing 42 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:48,160 and crafting room. But, by the time she had got it ready, she wasn't able to get up the stairs. 43 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:54,000 Nothing really ever happened with it, until it is stayed vacant, until I moved in stayed up there 44 00:04:54,000 --> 00:05:01,840 Do you think a location sitting vacant, do you think that can up the activity? It did with that house, so 45 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:08,320 yes with my mother, we had no choice but to have her put into a nursing home. Bless her heart, she 46 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:15,600 wasn't able to get around, and we wasn't able to safely transfer her to and from. That house sit 47 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:24,400 vacant for six, seven months I'm gonna assume, maybe a little bit longer.Then me and Shannon 48 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:32,320 decided to go in and clean it up and totally remodel it and we moved in. We did experience 49 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:39,680 some things before, while we were cleaning, and then also after we moved in. We went as far to 50 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:47,280 actually reach out to a paranormal team in the county near us, they had everything you could ask for 51 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:54,640 in a team. We met Bill, he's on ordained minister, and he is the head of that team. That's how 52 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:01,360 we got the house to where you were able to actually live there peacefully, a lot of help from that team. 53 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Do you remember the very first thing that happened, or you were too young you don't remember? 54 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:13,040 I remember, it started a lot with just the dog standing at the end of the bed and barking. It was 55 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:18,080 one of those rooms, it's real long and slender and you could see all the way down it because it was just 56 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:25,760 the whole the whole size of the house, so I remember my bed was facing the window at the very end and 57 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Cheech my little dog. Oh, that a cool name. Cheech and Chong, that's what I named after. But 58 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:39,120 she should stand at that end and she would bark down toward the stairs. Sometimes she would 59 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:45,920 get his brave, as to run down there and kind of look and then run back to the bed and bark and growl. 60 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:51,760 So, that was some of the first things that I remember starting to happen. Does Shannon remember 61 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,520 his first thing that happened when he moved in? Yeah, that was before we even moved in. He remembers, 62 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,680 yeah the first thing that happened to him is, he was going down into the basement after it had been 63 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,560 vacant for a little bit. Or I can't remember, wait don't quote me on that either, whether mothers still alive 64 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,920 there I can't remember. When we were starting to clean it up, one or the other he went 65 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:20,960 down the basement, and he heard a loud hiss come to the left side of his ear as he was going down the 66 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:28,880 steps. You know Shannon is not the type to be super scared, so when he says something scared him, 67 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:37,520 I do I trust in that. Yeah, me too. Yeah Shannon, he usually looks for some other kind of explanation 68 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,640 or you know something, but this one actually scared him. And then I remember it was, and we we're 69 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,320 trying to clean the house up, it had got mold that we didn't know about, and mom was the kind the 70 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,920 type that never had any money to fix anything, you know how that goes. And in one of the closets, above it 71 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,760 the roof had been leaking into the closet and caused a little bit of mold, so we had to go in there 72 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,440 and we had to clean a lot of that up. Sadly I had to get rid of a lot of stuff that I didn't 73 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:11,360 really want to, but it was just ruined by that time. Well, I was in her bedroom and I was going through 74 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,240 looking at things looking to see what could be saved and what needed to be gotten rid of, and Shannon 75 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,280 was in the living room, he was setting on the couch and he was going through her entertainment 76 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:27,120 center, seeing what she had in there. This woman bless, her heart she saved and kept everything. 77 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,160 I'm looking at Shannon and I can't remember I just said something to him, I think it was getting late 78 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:37,040 and we were probably about ready to head to the house but he's looking at me, I'm looking to hear him 79 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:44,720 and the door just slams shut, like with force. It shut, and that door was one of those kind of 80 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,160 doors where you just shut it and it's gonna you know, do like this, and it's not gonna close. You have to 81 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,040 actually put the force to it to make it close. That right there, I looked at Shannon, I said 'let's go’. 82 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:04,360 From that moment on, I did not go back there by myself to clean the house up. I always made sure Shannon was 83 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:10,640 with me, because when I would go by myself, I was scared. I'm not going to lie, when a door slams, you know 84 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:20,800 that was wild. I just, it's just like, I knew that that house was very capable of doing physical 85 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:27,200 actions I guess.  I was talking to mom, I believe I've already talked about this when, did I 86 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:34,880 tell of the frying pan story? You did. I was gonna ask you if you think that was the biggest activity 87 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:41,280 that happened? Yes,  when mom had said that someone was beating on that frying pan, or my 88 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:47,280 goodness, she lived alone. I got there the next day to clean it up, and it was bent in like for those, if 89 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:53,680 you that are watching on YouTube, the pan you know it was shaped like this in the middle. So, I'm like 90 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:59,360 whoa! When I picked it up, I picked it up put it in the sink to wash it, and right then I just knew 91 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,360 something was banging hard. For one, mom listened to her TV loud. She didn't hear very well, for her to 92 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:13,440 hear that beating and banging over that.Yeah, that's a lot of force, so I knew that that house was 93 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:22,400 capable of shutting doors and tearing up pans. Right. I should have asked to does Hayden remember his 94 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:29,680 first experience. Yes. yeah he does. He will tell you if you ask him about it. When he would lay in bed, 95 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:35,600 and one thing that we did not do, was let the cat stay upstairs with Hayden with the door shut. 96 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,680 They can't get to their food, they can't get to their water, and they can't get to their litter boxes. 97 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:43,680 So, every night we would let them stay up there till time to go to bed, then everybody come down. 98 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:50,960 Well, he said the first time that it happened, he remembers the steps, because we had the little 99 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,520 lights as you go down. The motion lights, so when you go down them, you could see. We didn't want 100 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,880 anybody to fall that was coming and  going. These were pretty steep stairs. He remembers them coming 101 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,720 up the stairs and turning on one by themselves. He got up thinking, oh well I guess thinking  one of the cats, or it was 102 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,240 going down I think, one of the cats must have gotten locked up in here, and they're just trying to get out. 103 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,120 So he got up, walked to the bottom, he’s going to let the cat out. There was no cat down there, and that 104 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:23,600 It became a pretty pretty regular occurrence. Was the lights going on and off? He has recordings of 105 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,960 them, well I'm not going to say he does, now but he used to have recordings of them. Actually, him 106 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:35,200 just laying there and it going off and on off and on all night long. He used to be, he was so fascinated 107 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:42,000 he would also have a lot of weird dreams about a house that was in front of us. It was abandoned 108 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,640 and it was in pretty rough shape. He had so many dreams about, well let's say this, to the fact that he 109 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,960 made me promise him that I would not go in that house when he wasn't around, 110 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,840 that there was an older lady that lived in there. He said she kind of looked not like 111 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:03,520 maybe a wicked witch, you know like if you're watching a cartoon. She kept trying to get him to 112 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:10,560 come into that house, so he was really kind of scared about that as well. When he was in your house, was 113 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:18,000 he scared or was he feeling more like it was just a friendly entity in the beginning? When he was 114 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,560 young, yeah he was kind of scared. He did not like windows, he wanted me to have the windows covered 115 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:30,480 at night. I had night lights everywhere, but who can blame the kid because I was scared. When I was there. 116 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:36,240 You know I I totally get it. Right, well I always feel bad when I hear people say that their 117 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,440 kids are scared and they don't believe them. So they tell them you know, oh it's in your head 118 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:49,280 or whatever. So, at least he had you to relate I tried to remind him that anything that was here 119 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:57,280 that was negative that was scaring me when I was a child has been taken care of and now we only have 120 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:03,760 the spirits around that are, as I would like to refer to them, from our of the white light. Because, 121 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:10,400 I do regularly cleanse and take care of things like that, so that would kind of help him as well. But 122 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:17,840 you know, when you're 8, 9, 10 ,11...you’re gonna be still kind of spooked. The first time 123 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:23,040 that I remember him ever really having a paranormal experience, and he didn't tell me this till like 124 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:29,360 a year or so after, well no several years after actually. He was only, he was three when 125 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,960 he had this one, in our first apartment of a woman that would come in. that was a shadow and 126 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:40,080 she would sit on the edge of his bed and watch him sleep. So, he's another child who has 127 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:46,960 always experienced things like this, I remember it wasn't nothing for me and Shannon to wake up in the 128 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,000 morning or through the middle of the night and Hayden be in the bed with us, so he’s, I believe he's 129 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:58,160 open. Oh that's what I was gonna say do, you think he gets that from Shannon? Probably, probably, and 130 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:05,600 probably even his mama too. Yeah, you believe that having that team come in there, they were able to 131 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:13,040 get rid of any dark things, but any of the things that were more light were welcome to stay there, 132 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:19,920 and they did because you had activity. Yeah, I mean that's I’ll always say, I'll do a cleansing 133 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:24,720 that if you're from the light you're allowed to come and go, I mean because really how can you 134 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,720 block something of the light. You know, they come and go they're not meaning any harm.  Yeah, I really do 135 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:37,920 think that did help, because they said that we had an elemental in the basement. An elemental is 136 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:44,640 a being that has never been alive, they have been here for gosh millions of cotrillions billions 137 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:52,960 billion long long time. You have several different, but this one that he did say that we had was a 138 00:14:52,960 --> 00:15:01,680 grimlin. Wait, what? Yeah, tell me more. It was just down there, had been down there for the longest time 139 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,760 and just terrorizing. Of course I don't want to go fully into this one, but I had met an individual 140 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:18,240 who did go into the house and sort of feed this elemental. She claimed to be, and I'm not 141 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:25,520 downing her whatsoever, a high priestess. I think that kind of open a lot of it up as well. And now that 142 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:32,000 I'm getting into that part of the story, I'm wanting to say that the hiss happened when we were 143 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,280 getting ready to move in for Shannon. When we were thinking about cleaning it up and doing all that. 144 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:45,760 And it didn't scare you way? No, it's like okay it'll be fun, until it wasn’t. Another thing that I think 145 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:51,920 did add some of the activity, and I'm not talking about the negative activity. I'm talking about just 146 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:58,720 spirit coming and going would be from the church that used to stand in the back of our house. 147 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,320 That was the first African-American church built in the 1800s for our town and that was something 148 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:10,960 that was really big for us. Well not for us, for them I should say. I've always loved that church. 149 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:16,320 I loved that piece of history behind the house. I used to take pictures of it, I just adored that 150 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:26,320 little place. Sadly someone was cooking illegal substances in it, and it I was, just trying to 151 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:32,880 figure out how to say that, were cooking illegal substances in it. It ended in the church having 152 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:42,240 to be torn down which broke my heart. The neighbor who had found out that had been done and actually 153 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,640 owned the church, he had of course tear it down, and then he had a gazebo built there in its memory 154 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:56,640 but it's not the it's not the same. So, I don't know if maybe that caused a little bit of upset. 155 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:04,640 I know you still have the church bell with the memory on the front, but it's not the same. I just 156 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,840 always have wondered if maybe, that possibly caused a little bit of, as we would call it around here in 157 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Kentucky, ruckus. I mean it makes sense. Yeah, because that's awful. So, there was activity before when you 158 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:27,760 were little do you think your mom, Amy and her mom made a Ouija board do you think that invited the dark 159 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:34,160 or do you think the dark was already there? Outside of the elemental, it probably invited, because I 160 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:41,360 didn't know what in the world I was doing. I mean I did say goodbye. I used to, I made it out 161 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:47,440 of a leaf of a table that had been cut, so it was like a perfectly nice little size thick wood. 162 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:53,840 It was nice, and I took a permanent marker and wrote everything out on it, and then we had taken a 163 00:17:53,840 --> 00:18:00,240 wine glass and turned it upside down into a planchet, and that's how me and mom used it. But no never mind, 164 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,160 I wouldn't have. I was getting ready to say I probably put it up under the couch with the 165 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:09,200 planchet on top, but not with a wine glass. I don't know, and I did have one, like I told you 166 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:14,240 but I don't know what happened to it. An actual one from Walmart. I don't know if I stored that one 167 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:21,360 properly, so probably it could have, because you definitely want to make sure you close out your sessions. 168 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:29,040 It's just like a spirit box or an app on a phone, and obviously ouija boards are just the exact same 169 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:36,080 thing, it's a device to contact the spirits, to contact the dead, so you want to close out that session. 170 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Very important, and listen I did it when I was a kid I didn't know how to close it out that’s like 171 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:49,600 how would you know, and and that's pretty common right. Yeah and mom, you know it was like fun for all 172 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:55,280 ages eight and above, so you know it it was something to do back then, it's not something you see 173 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:01,840 around now because we've kind of realized that there is something to them. Yeah, if there's one thing 174 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,800 all these shows have been good for even though they don't teach you how to open and close at least, 175 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:12,560 people might feel a little nervous using something like that. Well the scary thing, or 176 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:21,440 not the scary, what I mean to say, that the sad thing to me is that people are so scared of them. Terrified. 177 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:27,920 I hate that, because it's a tool, all you have to do is know how to properly use it. Just 178 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:35,520 like any other tool, Amy and I have a couple of friends who will use them on live regularly. The comments 179 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:44,400 go off the rails every single time. What are you doing, why are you doing that, that's gonna get you 180 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:52,720 possessed, all the comments come in and they'll just say same thing. This is just like using a spirit box, 181 00:19:52,720 --> 00:20:02,080 and it is. I mean 100%, so yeah oh my goodness that house it it'll always have a place 182 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:11,440 in the memories for why I want to do what we're doing now, why I have such a heart for it. I want 183 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:19,520 to understand I feel, and another thing like people say, 'aren't you scared?' For the majority of the time, 184 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:27,440 no I've been scared before. I've felt when I've needed to be scared. When we do most of the communicating 185 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:34,960 that we do, I have a different understanding of these were for the most part individuals were 186 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:41,600 alive just like I am, and you know what, sooner or later I'm gonna be passed just like they are. So, 187 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,720 just treat them with respect and keep your intentions pure. I didn't know any of that when I was a 188 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:56,080 little girl, so up and down the steps I went right. Well do you think, obviously when you're little 189 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:03,200 you don't know the difference, but when do you think you felt like you kind of knew what was going on, 190 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:10,240 because you had some sense yourself with some types of abilities. For you it's a little different, for 191 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,920 Shannon it's a little different than someone else because those people can't tell, is this negative, 192 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:23,200 is this not negative, so at what point do you feel like your intuition kicked in and you were like, oh 193 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:34,240 this is good, this is bad? In my 20s, I started getting really bad feelings. I knew something was gonna happen. 194 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,120 And at this point, it was kind of rocky you know, I was making my way through life you know. I had a 195 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:45,280 few situations that were rocky, you know how it is when you're that age. I would get these feelings 196 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,040 something is going to happen. Sometimes I would know what it was ,but most of the time I didn’t. And I'll be 197 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:59,920 darn it, turn around bam it happens. So, I started realizing something, something's going on here. And then 198 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:08,080 I've had, I don't call them dreams because yeah I might have been falling asleep or asleep but they 199 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:16,080 were so real. I feel like, I feel like one time I actually got to witness an individual have a 200 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:24,800 car wreak, right like it was bam in my face, and I'm just, I think about him all the time. Like were you trying 201 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:31,840 to reach me, and I didn't you know, what I'm saying realize that. Then, I don't know. Yeah, so up until 202 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:39,360 your 20s, you didn't know if this was good bad otherwise you were just probably scared. I just did 203 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:45,920 what I did, I lived my life, I didn't think about it. I don't think, I mean yeah, I was scared. but I don't 204 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:54,240 remember talking about it to my friends. I don't remember being ashamed of it and I don't know why I 205 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,840 didn’t, maybe I guess because same reason I didn't speak about it to my mom and dad. They 206 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:06,720 didn't necessarily believe. That makes sense.  Yeah, I feel like that happens to most people when they're 207 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,240 going through this they don't know who would believe or who to talk to. Well maybe not most, but a lot. 208 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:19,600 I had like who in the world, I had nobody to talk to. Then, when I realized when I was 16 years old, 209 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:26,480 I realized that my mama Ruby who had just passed away, that was my dad's mother, that she was in the 210 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:31,280 room with me a lot of nights. It took me a minute to put it together, I don't know why I didn't 211 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:37,840 realize something was going on there. Did you tell Shannon before he started coming over, that this 212 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:44,960 was going on ,or no the hiss is what made him realize it. Yeah, I think he did hear some of the stories 213 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:50,080 He did oh, so he knew. Yeah he knew, and then he had heard that when mom had  the pan and it was 214 00:23:50,080 --> 00:24:01,280 hit, so yeah he did know. Okay, I just had a question what was it, 215 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Did you ever have cabinets open not that I can remember? I 216 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:19,280 feel like that's so freaky to me, and I don't know why. No, not that I can remember now I'm looking over 217 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:25,680 here at my dolls on the table, one time me and mom were sitting downstairs watching TV and heard a 218 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:32,000 loud thump up in my room. We walked up the stairs, I'll remember the good times, that's when mom 219 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,280 could get around real good. Well, we went up the stairs, and we went and looked. The dolls were, 220 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:44,960 just fell over, but they didn't fall like you would think they would, over face down. They somehow 221 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:51,360 turned around and fell face up, three of them were laying face up straight up. Would you think 222 00:24:51,360 --> 00:25:01,040 Its considered polterized activity? No, I don't think so I think it was Mama Ruby up there. oh okay, I do 223 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,640 I think it was her up there trying to get attention. Another thing that makes me believe that, is 224 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,240 that the dresses on the dolls were perfect, their hats weren't messed up, their hair wasn’t. One of them 225 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,400 was a princess Diana doll, daddy bought me that one. Gosh, I lost all those when with 226 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,000 with the house, but anyways they were just laying there just as pretty. their hair, her hat was still on 227 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,480 everything. I mean just like you had, like I'd laid it down there gonna dust or something, I think 228 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:37,920 that if it had been something more so poltergeist, there'd been some more damage when, don’t you think 229 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:43,200 that you just slung them or it would have just slung it? I don't know I just feel like that was done 230 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:50,720 in a more like an attention, I could be wrong but I don't think there was, no I can't think of anything 231 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:57,120 else it could be considered a poltergeist happening, no. I'm surprised that you wouldn't have had 232 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:04,240 poltergeist activity, just because of you and or Shannon being in the house and having 233 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:11,200 some types of abilities. I'm surprised that I did not have poltergeist activity when I was 234 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:19,280 going through the Mama Ruby faze, spending her time with me. I was at 16 or 17 years old, and you 235 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:28,320 know how that kind of thing goes. So, I'm surprised it didn't happen then. Yeah. You know yeah me and mom 236 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,920 would just hang out, we would sit down at the coffee table in the living room put the ouija 237 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:41,360 board on the table. We would talk for an hour or so, slide it back up under the couch and then 238 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:53,280 good night go to bed. Did it ever make sense? Yes, oh yes, I believe at that point, it was mom 239 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:02,320 asking, yeah mom was talking to Mama Ruby. You don't ever think she was moving it? No. No, because 240 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:09,520 she got mad when time thinking I was. Oh. So, I don't think she was, because I really think she wanted to 241 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:17,840 believe. So I got, like I said got much further after that. She started to believe that things were 242 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,920 really happening. And when I had started opening up as I got a little bit older, I started telling her 243 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,840 things because that was when the stuff with Mama Ruby started happening. It was a lot, it was a 244 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,080 lot more than what I was used to. Because she was trying to reach out so hard, it's too bad that you 245 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:41,280 weren't investigating then because you could have helped her.Oh my gosh, that night when I seen her 246 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:49,920 clear as day looking at me, if I could have just not ran, had my equipment and the recorder, I mean 247 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:57,040 recording video, it had been great. Oh my goodness, nobody would have believed it of course, but 248 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280 I'm not going to say I'm not thankful I didn't grow up with that all that stuff too though. 249 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:10,720 Right. It was nice, but yeah if I could go back and have that experience now, I would totally, it would 250 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:19,120 be something way different. I would react way, way more paranormal investigator brained. And if anyone has 251 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:25,840 any specific questions I don't know that I saw any, or if I did I don't remember any specific 252 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:36,000 questions about the house, or Amy or Shannon or Hayden's experiences there, feel free to ask. Oh yeah 253 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:41,520 most definitely, I could probably talk a little bit longer on this, but because there was a lot that 254 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:48,320 happened when I was younger  but I know this is a minisode, so we're gonna save that for later. 255 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,840 If people do have questions, we could always either do another quick one or 256 00:28:53,840 --> 00:29:00,640 just answer them in the comments. Iif it's something simple yes, yes of course. All right, well thanks for 257 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:08,400 sharing with everybody I know people were curious so hopefully you enjoyed hearing about Amy's house. 258 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Oh my goodness, yes thank you for sitting here and listen to me talk about it. I never have, I will tell you 259 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:22,240 questioned if spirits are real, and probably because of my background and growing up that's 260 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:30,080 why you will never see me really question. Thank you guys, I you know I really enjoy doing this 261 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:41,120 and we're at what episode now. This will be around 14 ish. Got you. Yeah, thank you all for hanging in 262 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:47,680 there, I know some of you are listening, watching every Tuesday. I know that you're right here and 263 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,920 I just want to let you know we appreciate you more than you could ever understand. We're still learning, 264 00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:00,560 we're trying to grow, and we just hope that you keep going with this and growing with us. This is a new 265 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:06,720 journey. Yeah I know I'm really enjoying it, so I'm very grateful for the people that come here every 266 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:13,440 week. Yep I know. I love y’all. I guess until next time, what are we gonna do? We'll meet back here in a 267 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:21,680 week. Bye bye guys 268 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. keep on the lookout for our next episode 269 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:34,640 and stay gruesome