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Ep35: True Crime: Autumn & Martez
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Amy and Dawn dive into the unsolved case of 21 year old Autumn Seelye and 28 year old Martez McAtee in Louisville, KY. Despite witnesses and community outcry, their murders remain unsolved and the questions only grow.
1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,680 [Music] 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Hello and welcome to our podcast Talk Gruesome to me, where we talk about movies and shows that cover true crime, paranormal and horror. 3 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:27,920 I am one of your hosts, Dawn. I am currently located in Los Angeles and I think I'm pretty well versed in the horror genre, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,360 especially those 80s classics. A quick fun fact about me? I have a very extensive crystal collection. 5 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:43,920 Hello, I'm Amy. I'm from Kentucky and my area of expertise for this podcast is paranormal. A few fun facts about me. 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:50,240 I'm an empath, I collect old dolls and you know, I've never flown on an airplane. Can you believe that? 7 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:57,520 Now, Dawn and I are also obsessed with true crime, so here we are. Talk Gruesome to me. 8 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Welcome in. This episode is going to be another shorter one because this episode there is lack of records, reports and information, 9 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:12,000 but that's why we want to jump on here and we want to cover it. There were over 200 people at this event 10 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,160 and there has to be multiple people who saw what happened. This one, we're doing a second little short one 11 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:25,280 and it's because these two cases, they caught our attention. We will be back to our regular three part series coming next, 12 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:32,000 but we wanted to stop and highlight these. This case actually happened in my home state. I live in Kentucky now 13 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,880 and here we go. Let's get into it. Here is an interview with one of the victim's mothers, Corey Seelye. 14 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:48,000 I know there's no way she was targeted, no way. So for them to shoot her in the neck for no reason. 15 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:59,280 I just, I don't know what to do with it. Like Amy said, that was Corey Seelye, who was Autumn Seely's mom 16 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:07,360 and that was just part of the clip from WLKY, which is, I assume, a new station in Louisville. 17 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:15,680 Let's get into what happened a little bit of information on May 3rd, 2025. So this was a very recent story. 18 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:23,120 This was in Louisville's Parkland neighborhood. There was a late-night crowd that was gathered in a 19 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:31,680 Kroger parking lot near 28th and West Broadway. This was just after 2am and then gunfire erupted 20 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:40,800 when all that chaos was over. Two people were dying, a third was wounded. One of those was Autumn Seelye, 21 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:48,560 whose mom you just heard. And she was 21 and the other was 28-year-old Martez McAtee. 22 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Now their case remains open and today we're going to lay out what's known and what's it not? 23 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,440 What we're going to do is we're going to let you know how you can actually help. 24 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Right, let's go over the timeline. Again, around 2, 10am, Saturday, May 3rd, 2025. It would be, 25 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:17,280 I guess, May 2nd, but in the middle of the night, so it's May 3rd. There were multiple 911 calls that 26 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:23,360 came in that reported this shooting in this Kroger parking lot, which by the way we tried to find, 27 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:31,600 and we couldn't find any of the 911 calls. The address again was 28th and West Broadway in Louisville. 28 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:38,080 When the officers arrived, there were two victims, a man and a woman. They both had gunshot wounds, 29 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:44,080 both were transported to the hospital and both passed away. There was also a third victim, 30 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:51,120 but that one survived this mass shooting. The police noted a large crowd was in the area. 31 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,440 I don't know what this happened on Derby Weekend. I actually figured it meant Kentucky Derby, 32 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:03,520 but I googled it just to be sure. That's what it meant. In this story, when you find a couple 33 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:08,800 of news articles, they keep saying Derby Weekend. I just wanted to verify that. That was what that meant. 34 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:16,880 On this Derby Weekend, there were other issues. Five people in total were killed this weekend. 35 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,120 There were others wounded in such, but five people were killed that weekend. 36 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Yeah, their names are on those lists, but they were people, families, birthdays, group chats, 37 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:34,880 that just suddenly went silent. Autumn and Martez's name is there in black and white. It shouldn't 38 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:42,000 be the where their story ends though. Right. And like Amy said earlier, there just isn't a lot to go 39 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:50,080 off of here to give much information. There weren't detailed forensic breakdowns. There aren't any 40 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:57,840 ballistics in the records that we tried to find and go through no suspect description. There's nothing. 41 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:03,840 There's no public arrest records. You know, we're going to try to stick to reports and what's 42 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:10,000 documented. But unfortunately, there's just not much out there on this one. Yeah. Local newscast, 43 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:17,680 the following day referred Derby Weekend Violence Cromward. That was citing Autumns death within a broadcast. 44 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Painful pattern that weekend. Five people were killed. There were four others injured. That's 45 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:30,960 nine people, but their name risk getting lost in the totals. We don't want that to happen. So here, 46 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,200 we're going to say their names again. You got Autumn Seelye and Martez McAtee. 47 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:45,280 Again, the things that aren't being publicly reported, there's no suspect name, there's no arrest, 48 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:54,640 nothing like autopsy details. There's no minute by minute of either of these people's last minutes. 49 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:02,160 The documents that we typically see on public records or even interviews or anything like that, 50 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:09,280 they kind of just start going to leave us guessing. Yeah. Newsrooms reported a large crowd on scene. 51 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:14,960 People might have seen moments before the shots or cars leaving or phones out filming. 52 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:20,880 In other cities, those little details break a case. If you were there and haven't talked to detectives, 53 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:27,920 this is for you. Maybe snitches get stitches situation, but I think not. I think it's the right thing to do. 54 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:37,760 And if you know anything about this May 3rd, 2025 triple shooting at that Kroger or their final hours 55 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:43,040 and what these two were doing before they were gunned down, I'm going to give you a few phone numbers. 56 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:58,320 The LMPD homicide unit is 502-574-7055. There's an anonymous tip line, 502-574-LMPD. 57 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:08,960 Which is 5673. And then there's the Kentucky Crime Stoppers, which is 502-582-CLU, which is 2583. 58 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,680 If you're worried about being identified, anonymous options exist. 59 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:20,560 Tip lines in Louisville routinely generate leads that move cases. Even a small detail can really help 60 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:27,520 and really matters. So it's full of a late night crowd. It was a busy parking lot. It had 61 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Derby foot traffic. Evidence like that can be rich and it can be complex also because of all the people. 62 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:46,080 But you would think that there would be multiple vantage points, social media. I did see one person 63 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:53,120 post right after on social media, but I didn't want to post their footage without consent. So 64 00:07:53,760 --> 00:08:00,320 I didn't post it, but you can find it. I don't even want to say his name. There was one video out there 65 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:06,160 that I found. Anyways, with a crowd like that, you know, there's tons of vehicles coming in and out. 66 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:13,040 And you would think there would have been surveillance video from businesses or people that were there. 67 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:22,800 But I will say, you know, we don't know what LMPD has in their hands. So hopefully they have something. 68 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:30,400 If you work in the area or you were there and you saw something, please consider contacting 69 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,600 the authority is using those numbers that I just read off. 70 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:40,960 When cases go cold, families can feel like the world has moved on and their loved ones don't matter 71 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:48,560 anymore. If you knew of Autumn and Martez, share their photo, share experiences you had with them, 72 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:52,960 share their favorite things, anything that you can think of to keep their name alive. 73 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:59,280 That's how these people are kept in the spotlight. Ask for tips, ask for questions of what happened to 74 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:05,200 them. That's that's how we keep their name in the view. I agree. Let's talk about the paper trail, 75 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:13,360 which is seemingly sort of non-existent to us. Every homicide leads behind official 76 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:21,680 documents of some kind, dispatch logs, offense reports, medical examiner findings, narratives from 77 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:31,360 people who might have been there. Not all of these are immediately made public, but some can be accessed 78 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:38,880 at least through Kentucky's Open Records Act. And I'm assuming other states have similar laws in 79 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:46,080 place. For example, in Louisville, the LMPD, the Records Division, they keep copies of initial 80 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:52,480 incident reports. You can request them directly. Sometimes reports are redacted, but even those 81 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:59,600 redactions show what investigators consider sensitive. It can reveal times, locations, even the basic 82 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:06,800 flow of the night. If anyone's interested, if you ever want to see something like this or need it, 83 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:13,760 hopefully not, but something personal to you. And again, I'm sure it's similar in most cities or 84 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:20,960 states. The first step would be file and open records request. And this one specifically would be 85 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:28,400 the LMPD records. Most cities have an online portal that you can use. And then step two, you should 86 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:36,640 receive the CAD, which is computer-aided dispatch printout. This would be something like the 911 calls 87 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:46,080 and when the police were dispatched and things like that. And then if you are family or direct, 88 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:51,200 I don't know if they will do friends, but if you're next of kin, something like that, you can also 89 00:10:51,200 --> 00:11:00,080 request more details like autopsies and medical examiners reports through the vital statistics 90 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:06,160 divisions. All important information that I'm sure a lot of people have no clue about. And we 91 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:13,280 want to mention this because it highlights what's possible and what missing from public conversation 92 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:21,200 about Autumn and Martez's case. If more journalist advocates or even concerned citizens file these 93 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,520 requests, the more daylight shines on an unsolved case. Obviously they're going to withhold some 94 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:33,040 things because it's crucial to the case and they don't want to compromise it. So like that's 95 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:39,760 understandable and expected. But requesting records keeps pressure like you just said, it keeps it 96 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:46,720 to the forefront in the divisions. It ensures that their cases aren't just sitting and going dark. 97 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:54,320 Yeah, public records, they can't bring them back, but they can keep their story alive. And sometimes 98 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:01,120 the spark, the one tip, it just might make a connection and make it all make sense. You just never 99 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:11,760 know two lives ended in that lot. Autumn Seelye, she was 21 and Martez McAtee, he was 28. Someone 100 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:18,000 they know what happened. I feel like a lot more than one person knows what happened. I guarantee 101 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:24,080 yeah. We'll just go over the details again if you were near 28th and West Broadway around 2/10 102 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:32,640 a Saturday, May 3rd, 2025. Even if you think it was something small, any little details can help. 103 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:48,800 The homicide unit number again is 502-574-7055 and the anonymous tip line 502-574-LMPD, which is 5673. 104 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,680 I just want to kind of talk about how going back to what you said, the snitches get stitches. 105 00:12:55,680 --> 00:13:02,640 Thing and I'm sure that that's playing into a lot of why there has been no arrest and why there 106 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:09,280 aren't many details. That anonymous tip line could could be everything and mean everything to 107 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:15,600 these two families and his family. They did in that parking lot. I saw some footage from a news 108 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:22,480 report. They went and had a little memorial type thing in the parking lot and they have some 109 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:29,120 footage as well if anyone's interested in hearing from his family. Not many details, but I know people 110 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:37,200 know something. Even like if you're scared to come forward because of something might happen to you, 111 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:44,160 you're no, it's just not right to hold something like that and once if you had the information that 112 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:53,280 can catch them, why not? And I can't imagine. So in my family's case, this sounds weird to say we're 113 00:13:53,280 --> 00:14:00,080 fortunate, but you know we knew who did it and that person is in jail forever. There's so much 114 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:07,760 peace of mind to that knowing that that person isn't out there and can't do this again to someone else. 115 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:16,320 It's hard to explain the feelings involved in something like that when it's your immediate family. 116 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:24,080 It was my niece in my case. Today is actually her birthday. But the way that this affects people's 117 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:33,840 families and especially I cannot imagine either a missing person and not knowing what happened to 118 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:40,560 your loved one or like in this case the person not being caught knowing that there were so many 119 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:46,960 people around and someone has to know something more than someone. I'm convinced multiple people 120 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:55,120 could help out here anonymously and help these families with their grief and their closure and 121 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:00,160 all of that. I mean this is this has only been a few months. Yeah and somebody that could go into 122 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,520 the crowd and do something like that. Do you not think that they can't do that again? 123 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:14,320 For sure they can. I was just in Louisville this weekend. That person might have been walking around 124 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,960 in the same city that I was in. So you've got to think about stuff like that. 125 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Yeah. This one again we wanted to cover because it's close to home for Amy. 126 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,120 Even though there aren't a lot of details which makes this episode very short we still wanted to cover 127 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,920 it because of that. With as many people around there you'd also think that maybe some people 128 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:46,560 traveled in and maybe possibly they don't have a clue that this happened. Oh for sure because 129 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,920 it was the Derby Weekend. Yeah so that's why it's important to highlight these cases and not just 130 00:15:51,920 --> 00:16:00,240 let them go to sleep. And like Amy said for these families in case anyone of them would ever 131 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:08,960 possibly hear this just post about them. Keep them alive within yourself and your family. Like I 132 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:15,360 posted about my niece this morning and posted her little Zoo Memorial and said you know it's 133 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:21,680 her birthday if you're at the zoo go say hi or whatever. Don't let it end here with their physical 134 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:29,040 body. No that's all. Keep telling their story. The more times you tell it you might just be surprised 135 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:37,840 in some of the people that you reach. Yeah. All right well it's a shorty but we're back to our regular 136 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:44,320 trio. We aren't going to reveal yet what it is but it should be a good one. You guys know Dawn 137 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:54,480 like secrets. I know I'm like rubbing my hands together like yes so we have a secret. Oh we will 138 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:01,200 meet back here in a week for regular programming. Back on schedule schedule. Oh I don't know about 139 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:09,840 all that. I'm not sure yet. Okay we'll see. Only because I have trips to Ohio this weekend and 140 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:16,800 I mean it's only four days whatever but then I have in November I'm going back for a week and a half 141 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:24,320 and then in December for I think two weeks and the issue is the super flights are so expensive 142 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:32,080 that I have to fly away before Thanksgiving and way before Christmas to be able to and I use 143 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:39,520 the miles for all the three tickets but still to make it reasonable I have to fly in an obnoxious 144 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:45,600 amount of time earlier than the holiday. I mean maybe I could take this stuff I mean I haven't 145 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:53,200 filmed in Ohio but maybe I could. Maybe we could plan out a meeting in between some of those two. 146 00:17:53,200 --> 00:18:02,880 Yes get out and explore. That's the best idea. We'll work on that. I think so. Okay good. All right well 147 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:09,360 meet back here in two weeks. Oh did I say a week earlier? I'm sorry. I meant a regular schedule schedule. 148 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:15,920 No sorry. I have my brains just so trained to say meet back here in a week. Meet back here in two. 149 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,720 Yeah two two. Back to regular. All right thanks everyone. Bye. 150 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Thanks for making it to the end and hanging out with us. Keep on the lookout for our next episode 151 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:41,120 and stay gruesome.