Sound Healing and A New Vision for Care with Dr. Janine Ambrose

Dr. Janine Ambrose grew up learning from nature’s rhythms, then found herself pulled into intuitive counseling shaped by experiences that blended faith, spirit, and a steady desire to help people heal. What unfolds is a grounded but expansive talk about how transformation can arrive without warning and how we respond when it does.

We discuss sound healing and frequency therapy, including music designed to support chakra alignment and even sinus relief. We trade ideas about the future of holistic health and integrative medicine. Dr. Ambrose's method is care that treats the whole person through sound, light, breath, nature, and a spiritual component that helps reclaim meaning after illness or crisis.

Dr. Ambrose also shares her yogi-led awakening and the kind of spirit encounter that can change your definition of “self” forever, plus vivid moments of manifestation, communication with animals, and even the slowing of time. We connect the dots between trauma healing and laughter, and why joy can be a real tool for resilience.

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Transcript

Episode Welcome And Dr. Ambrose

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Um back to Out of the Blue, where we explore life-changing moments of transformation and gratitude. I'm your host Vernon West, joined today by my son and co-host Vernon West III, an accomplished singer, songwriter, and visual artist who created both our theme song and our logo. Together we love exploring the journeys that remind us miracles can appear right when we least expect them. Our guest today is someone whose life has been guided by a profound connection to nature, spirit, and the mysterious forces that move through all of us. Dr. Janine Ambrose grew up on a farm where the rhythms of the earth became her first teachers, harvesting organic vegetables, riding horses, and listening to the quiet wisdom of the natural world. That early harmony shaped the lens through which she views life, one rooted in presence, compassion, and alignment with the moment. Over the years, Dr. Ambrose has experienced what many would call the mystical, moments of slow time, guidance through collective trauma, and deep encounters with spirit. Mentored by a yogi, she's learned to bridge the physical and the spiritual in ways that awaken healing and consciousness. Her life's journey, including the challenges of relationships and two divorces, has given her the insight and empathy to help others find balance, self-love, and inner peace. Her out of the blue moment came during a profound spiritual awakening, when under the guidance of her yogi, she experienced a soul encounter that forever expanded her understanding of who we are beyond the body. That moment of transcendence opened the door to her mission to empower the collective and help others rediscover their divine essence and purpose. This is a conversation about surrender, healing, and the unseen dimensions that connect us all. Let's welcome Dr. Janine Ambrose right here, right now on Out of the Blue the Podcast. Good afternoon, Dr. Ambrose, and welcome to Out of the Blue. Hello. How are you doing? Very good today. How are you? Absolutely wonderful. It's another day to find some things to be grateful for, right?

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Let's start right at the beginning there with that beautiful event that I ended the intro with. Yes, and I've had quite a few of those too. Oh well, I'm sure you're gonna tell us all about them, and I want you to. I encourage that. I I don't know if we can do it all in one show, but no, no part, not even, I don't expect that to be happening, but we'll get close. You know, we'll get a we'll get a tip of the iceberg anyway.

Growing Up Around Psychics And Music

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Yes, yes. Well, basically, I started counseling when I was in grade school. Um, my mother was very gifted and she could see in bodies. And when we were young, we would go to Casadega, Florida, to visit my uncle, and we would stop in Casadega where all the psychics lived. Oh no, and we would go, yeah, and we go around and visit them. And so I was integrated into that, even though I was raised very Catholic, we have bishops in our bloodline and things like that. So that's kind of my start. And then as I was in school, kids would come up and ask me about their problems, and I would tell them what I would do, and it always worked out for them. So my counseling started at a very young age, even children I didn't know in different grades. And from there, it went on to composing, playing the piano, musical like you. It's fun. And my son as well. He's very much a gifted musician. What all instruments do you play, Vernon?

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Um, which Vernon, me?

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Yeah, Vernon number three.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Um uh I play uh guitar. Uh I sing, and I'm a drummer in like three bands at the moment.

SPEAKER_02 4:29

Oh my. And you sing while you play drums too.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

And yes, I do some backup harmonies. I'm good, I'm good at harmonizing and stuff like that. I'm a I'm a uh a Swiss Army knife type of musician. Utility doesn't best, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

It's gotten me a lot of work, genuinely.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

And Vernon plays in two of my projects with him, the VW Bus Band and the West Boys, which I'll send you the link so you can check it out.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

And you're a you're you said you're a pianist.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

Oh, I studied classical art of Chicago when I was young and student taught in high school, and then I played in a rock band in my early 20s. My brother was a drummer and I played keyboards. I had a Hammond in two and a Willitzer Electric. Whoa, a Hammond organ you had? Yeah, used to haul that.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Yeah, what did you have? Did you have the the speaker, the um the Leslie? Leslie.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Oh yeah, oh yeah. We played a lot of Kansas.

SPEAKER_02 5:29

Oh boy, I played, I did a show with Kansas. Uh I love them. They're sweet, they're great guys, so really nice guys.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

I have been to Kansas, so and your little dog, too.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

That's fine.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

I just had to I had to one up.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

There you go, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 5:52

That's amazing, and a Wurlitzer, too. Those are those are awesome.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

You don't see them much anymore, but they sound so good. So, yeah, and then after that, I started just composing because I've studied sound frequency

Sound Frequency Healing And A Dream Center

SPEAKER_00 6:05

and I teach metaphysics. So I composed two CDs so far. One opens and aligns the chakras in your body, and the other one heals sinus cavities, which I've gotten actually clarification on that. I met a woman, her husband was an emergency room doctor, and she was having sinus problems. And I said, Well, I've created the CD. This was a few years ago, obviously. Um, I said, Listen to it and tell me what you think. Because I put healing frequencies under my music. So she listened to it for about a month when she went to bed, and she I met her at school again, and she said, Oh my god, it healed my sinuses. I was going to have surgery. And I said, Sound frequency actually resonates to the different uh densities in the body. So your bones have a density and a sound of frequency, color, and sound, your brain, every different mass that's put together has a vibration. So I really feel in the future that's basically what's going to be a lot of the healing is through frequency and sound.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Oh, I can't agree more. When did you get the the the moment with the yogi that you were to I talked about in your intro?

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Well, that was the first time I met her. Um, I was having all kinds of experiences and I heard about her in Iowa City. How old were you at that time? I was in my early 30s.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Okay, so you were and I had to then up to then you were liv you were living in that place in Florida or you visited there?

SPEAKER_00 7:40

No, we just visited there. I was I've pretty much lived in Iowa. I lived in Minneapolis for a while, so I was gonna the farm girl and me. I like the seasons, so but I have on my website I met with an eco-friendly architect, and I had a dream about a center to be built. That's funny you mentioned that, and it's on my website, and he came to hear me play the piano. I was composing someplace, and he came to hear me play, and he designed the center just for my music. I hadn't even described it to him, and so we've put together that on my website because that's that's my dream too, and it has a center where it you can go in and it has elixir, and people can rent it out for weddings, whatever they want to rent it out for. And then the next part of it is teaching about alternative therapies, because I teach those, and then there'll be a center for a hospital to bring people back that are really sick with holistic doctors, and then the last part of it, section of it, is a streaming for music, video, um, anything like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:55

Would that be like music that's like focused on like putting out those like healing frequencies, or is it just kind of like because music is harmony and harmony is healing?

SPEAKER_00 9:06

You know, it's it's basically anything. I mean, it can be used for anything. I you know, I don't look at things as in a box, whatever, whatever works, works. I actually went somewhere once to, I was taken to a place where they were showing me when I walked in the door. It was like, I don't know if it was a different planet or what. Anyway, when I walked in the door, I walked on crystals and colors and sounds when I walked in. The flooring was like that. So when I walked in, I it actually shifted your vibration when you walked in. Then it there were different rooms. In one room I was taken in, I was showing that uh he said, Do you notice how clean the air is? Because it was outdoors. And I said, Yeah. And he said, the people here visualize like, and the only way he could describe it to me that I could understand is like a cheesecloth around their planet, so that none of the negativity and that the toxins or pollutants came in. Then he took me in a room with some babies, and there were high frequencies going on that you could barely hear, and they were downloading these babies with this high frequency. And then the last room they took me in was like um oh, like a record player with a uh a thing that went around, and the top of it opened up, and it took sent a frequency out into the universe to affect the universe. So, I mean, there's so many neat things that can build, like that walkway with crystals, music, and color.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Well, definitely this is the future of of healing in this in the world, really. It is definitely, in my opinion. Uh, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 10:52

Um, hopefully it'll it'll manifest. Well, we have to see it before it can manifest anyway, you know. Right, exactly. Absolutely. So, yeah. Um, and then I have six children, so they were my greatest teachers.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Um, I say that to my kids all the time. I tell my students they are, aren't they? They are the best teachers you can get. Yeah, you are Vernon. You are.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yeah, I always said I had a lot to learn. I had six.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

That's what it is. I

A Yogi Meditation And A Lost Soul

SPEAKER_02 11:20

guess now that you know that's a good way to look at it.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Well, maybe they're each a facet of us.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Yeah, it could be that. It could be actually more having a lot to do with your purpose. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, so go ahead, keep going. Let's go back to Janine's story.

SPEAKER_00 11:34

Oh, when I met the yogi. Yes. Okay, um, that was very powerful. Um, we sat down and she took us, and and her name's Marilyn Rossner, and she runs the International Institute of Integral Human Services and Psychic Sciences in Montreal, Canada. And she's affiliated and connected with the Open University in Sri Lanka, and she's also on the board of uh the World Health Organization. Anyway, so when I went to see her, we meditated, and my sister was with me. And all of a sudden, my feet started to tingle, and all of a sudden I couldn't feel my body, and so I really didn't know what happened. But I guess I went into this crippled paraplegic form, and my yoki came over and said, This is a young child that was burned in a fire that got lost, and uh a lost soul, that's what they call them, where they get caught interdimensionally, but they haven't moved on to the spirit world and they still aren't off the earth plane. Anyway, this child came into my body, and she came over and she moved it on. And so, for probably 15 minutes, I never moved a muscle, and then finally I remember having some tingling in my fingers, and all of a sudden, my I felt my body come back. And so, after that, that's when she came up to me and she said, You need to come to Canada, you need to take our college courses in because this is your path. And so that it was a pretty big awakening. That that's kind of a blue, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

That's what out of the blue is all about, man. You certainly got the the call. I think that what that's what happens if you really everybody we've had on the podcast when they have an out of the blue moment, it is basically the universe, the creator, whatever they want to characterize it, speaking to them and giving you instructions. And if you and I think that the in proportion to the uh to the amount you listen and pay attention, the more those messages keep coming. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Oh, well, since then, I mean, I have another story I can tell you. Um, I took my son, I have a grandson that was eight months younger

Animals Slow Time And Signs To Act

SPEAKER_00 13:55

than my last son, and my daughter to this, it's called the Imaginarium. And so when we walked in there, there was a glass thing with this with a snake in it. And so for some reason, I walked up and I said, Hey, you guys, I'm gonna have the snake crawl up the glass and stick its tongue out. And they go, right, mom, you know, whatever. So I looked at the snake, I visualized it, I said it, and the snake climbed up and stuck its tongue out. And we all were in shock. I was even in shock, I couldn't believe it worked. So then we went downstairs and there was a python down there in a great big glass thing. And my son Phoenix said, Mom, I want to try what you did. How'd you do that? And I said, Honey, all I did was visualize it with my mind and then spoke it because sound carries thought. So he stood there in front of the glass and he said it, and all of a sudden, one you know how they look dead in those things. All of a sudden, one eye came open, the other eye, and it crawled over and crawled up the glass, and the hair was standing on the back of our necks because it was such an experience to see. So that showed me that I can communicate, and all of us can communicate with animals. Um, they're very, very receptive when you think how how birds can sing as loud as they do when they're so little. Uh nature to me is just amazing. So that was a pretty interesting one.

SPEAKER_02 15:24

That's a really good one.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Tell us more. Oh, okay. Well, I wrote a couple down here. Go ahead. Make sure I I wanted to talk about it. Well, the thing about time was I always played volleyball actually until I was 60. And when I was playing, this I played co-ed, so these guys had hit the ball so hard. And he kind of knew I was the weakest link at that point. So he kept hitting it really hard and I'd miss it. And I'm not sure actually what I did, but I said, I will hit it this time. And when he sent it over, it went into slow motion, and I went down with my hands and hit it back over, and then time came back. So I actually slowed down time, but I really don't know how I did it.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

It's amazing. I wonder if that was more along the lines of of perception. Like your senses was was were it's like the way slow motion works with film. The high speed camera, high-speed camera, you shoot the scene in with a high-speed camera, and it gets more frames per second. So then you play it at the regular speed, and all of a sudden it's slow. So maybe that's what you did, you know, that somehow you you can control the perception rate of your mind.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

I think we can do a lot more than what we think we can, at least I've been shown that. Definitely agree with that. It's just amazing. And uh another story that just was recent, I was investing in something and I was struggling with investing in it. So I stood in my living room and I just said, Okay, if I'm supposed to do this, then you have to have a raven come out on my patio and caught me, or I'm not going to do it. So I was working on my computer and had the door open and a bird flew up, and I looked and I said, No, it can't be a bird. I said, It has to be a raven. All of a sudden, a raven flies up, lands on my deck, and is calling at me. And he said, Okay, I'll do it. What did you what did it ask you to do? Well, the thing I was doing, whatever you put out in the universe, can come back when you're focused and you put energy with it. And I was showing by the universe, spirits, whatever, that I was supposed to do it. And so it manifested. So things that are supposed to happen to us happen to us, and everything we've been through in our life is necessary to break make us who we are and how we help other people. So the more difficult the times, the more challenges we overcome and find peace and harmony, the more powerful we become in making a difference in the world. At least that's

Vernon’s Breakthrough Gig And Hard Lessons

SPEAKER_00 18:15

how I feel.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

I think that's incredible. And my own personal I gotta inject one personal thing here. Um I've had things happen with completely uh out of the blue, um, something would manifest. Um in this case, it had to do with my musical career when I was uh playing a a nightclub in the middle of nowhere, found out that it actually wasn't in the middle of nowhere, it was at the top of a hill with a huge amphitheater. And all of a sudden, and then I met a guy at the nightclub out of the blue from Boston. This place is four and a half hours out of Boston. I meet this guy at the bar at that place. I'm saying, What are you doing here? And he goes, Oh, I'm here for the show tomorrow. What show? It's Barney Wright. I didn't even know who Barney Wright was. I was 22. And he goes, Yeah, you want to come and see the show? Come down in the morning, I'll give you a backstage pass. Now, meanwhile, I was had been eight years playing music, and really it was hard. We weren't we were still playing nightclubs. It was hard to make any really real progress. It's very difficult business, you know. And I was I I had surrendered, you know, at that point in my life. I was saying, I all right, God just direct me. If I'm supposed to keep doing this, let me know. So I went down that morning, got the backstage pass, I go hang out backstage. And don't you know, Barney Wright comes up to me, taps me on the shoulder, says, Hi, I'm Barney Wright. I go, Oh my God, how are you? I nice to meet you. And 45 minutes later, the promoter came running across the stage and said, Barney, can I speak to you? And says, Barney, she says, Vernon, wait a second. She goes up to talk to him, and he says, Barney, can you go on early? The opening act is nowhere to be found, and we're gonna start the show in 10 minutes. She goes, Well, let's have Vernon's band play. And I went on stage for 12,000 people, talk about a man in the stage. And then the next thing you know, my career took off. But the next thing that happened to me, after years of that wonderful thing happening, and more wonderful things on top of that, more wonderful experiences. But what happened was I got an incredibly bad thing happened to me. Like my career, which was like I'm a freight train, was moving at such a velocity with so much momentum that it was almost like impossible to stop it. But something happened out of the blue, completely unexpected, from the evil people really in the world, because in the music business, there's quite a bit of greed and and and stuff like that going on. And I was kind of naive to it, and I uh walked right into it. I was vulnerable, and something really bad happened to me, and I was always troubled about that. But I look back on it now and I think maybe that was more important than I realized because maybe the real function of my inspiration manifestation isn't just to show that I can make beautiful things, like beautiful things can happen, but that I can help with the problem that's happen that's happening in the world. That there is a lot of you know negativity, there's a lot of uh you know, sadness, there's a lot of stuff. You know, I want to say I don't want to say evil, I don't even like to give it words, but but you know, negativity is the worst word I want to use here. But um I think that my calling ends up being more like what I'm doing now with out of the blue, which is addressing people's trauma and seeing how they make surviving into thriving. And that seems to be more in alignment with my purpose. Now, do you think that what you think I'm pretty close to that? You you are pretty psychic. So, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Well, I um I believe everything. Happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Yeah, I do too.

SPEAKER_00 22:02

And there's always the negative and the positive, the

Crystals As Memory And Human Conduits

SPEAKER_00 22:05

yin and the yang. Yang yang, yep. And so I keep myself in a positive mode all the time, or I try to, because I reflect more energy and more healing, even if it's only to one person. Because I think we can change the world with one person at a time. I know if if when when I met my yogi, I took a shift vibrationally because I was in her energy field. Well, they say for if you're in it, someone's energy field for a half hour, they've actually affected you. It's like seeing a light, and you know, those ones that you touch and they get brighter. Well, that's what we are happening, or what's happening on our planet right now, is as we raise our vibration, our vibration affects everyone around us. And that's with our voice, that's with physical connecting with people, and that's actually even focusing when you meditate and you send things out to the universe, it actually affects the universe. So when what I do in my meditations, I always visualize sending peace and harmony and love down, and I visualize crystals in the middle of the earth, and then I see them spray out through the planet out into the universe so that it creates it's going everywhere because everywhere is all connected.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

Crystals are amazing things. I mean, I I I'm conduits, yeah. I I feel like they almost they are like yeah, like they're conduits. I felt I used to gather them whenever I went out in the nature, and I still have a bunch of them.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

That's it, it doesn't surprise me about you.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

But they talk, they they sort of talk to you, you know, and they they they're like almost like living beings at a higher level, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Absolutely. Yeah, when you say conduit, sorry, what does that what does that necessarily mean? Because I I have a gist, but what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_00 24:03

Like okay, so when I was in Canada and I had to take a bunch of classes there, and she had stones and she brought all these stones in. So, and they hold information, crystals. So she said if people would take a crystal when they're studying, all that information would go in the crystal, and then if they would go take the test and hold the stone, the information would come through. So they hold information. And I actually know that at one point they were using crystals in computers because they hold so much information, but it's also a conduit, it takes in and it gives out. Do you understand what I'm saying now? All stones are that way.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Um, you hold a stone vibration or something or something along those lines.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

It holds information. It holds information, right? I think isn't aren't we all basically conduits? I mean, oh yeah, we are exactly that.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

Absolutely. Um, I wrote a book called, Well, my son helped me write it when he was little, he had ADD. He was real high energy, extremely high energy, and he was being naughty at school. So we started writing stories where he was a hero, and it's called um it's McDermott Mysteries because that's my mother's maiden name, my Irish background, and the Zubak and the Secret Mountain. And the thing is, is that he helped me write the book, and in the book I talk about stone soup because that came to me when I was writing it, because stones hold minerals, and actually, if you did put them in the soup, it would have an effect on the soup. So, you know, and since everything is made up of atoms, I'm saying everything in the universe, everything has a frequency, color, and sound, and that's why we can connect with everything. It's pretty simple, actually, it's not complicated.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

Yep, but it's you know, it's the simplest things that are the most real, absolutely. Like in cooking, too, the simplest recipes are the best sometimes, you know. So so you're you you've you've met the yogi, you've had this amazing out-of-the-blue experience that changed your your tone, basically, you your vibration, as you put it. I completely get that too. I can see that as you were saying that, I think that when I sat for an hour talking to Barney Wright, that's what happened.

Patch Adams Laughter And Trauma Recovery

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

I picked up some of that vibration. Absolutely. Well, you know, I I wanted to mention about Patch Adams. I've done some workshops with him. You've heard of Patch Adams. I have. So when I was in Canada, he came to Canada and he's a real tall guy. And he had a long braid and he had a cross-earling, and he got up on the stage and he started stripping while he was talking. So everybody's in hysterics at this point. And he gets down to his boxer shorts and he starts putting on this outfit that he would go to Russia in to help the kids in Russia that were in orphanages. Well, he was a medical doctor, and he found that when he would go into people's homes and spend a week with them to find out what trauma created their illness, because trauma and emotion create illness. And I've done research with Alzheimer's patients, and usually there's some trauma that has made them forget the immediate. They always remember the past, but it's the immediate that starts in that. Anyway, he has a center down, I think it's in Virginia, and the government went in and tried to say they'd build him a hospital, and he wouldn't have anything to do with the government. He he built the whole thing on donations. And you he has a website you can go on, and retired doctors and nurses go down there, and even the cleaning ladies, everybody makes ten dollars an hour.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Wasn't Robin Williams the one who played it?

SPEAKER_00 28:07

He's the one that played the part. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

He was a hoot. He was amazing, really. That was an amazing movie.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Vernon III, did you understand that?

SPEAKER_01 28:16

I mean, yeah, so he essentially made like he invested in like an alternative uh hospital.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Well, he had a near-death experience because he tried to commit suicide when he because he didn't fit in school systems. He was actually extremely brilliant. And after the near-death experience, that's when he was shown what he was here to do. And he would walk in airports with a whoopee cushion cushion under his arm, and he'd walk up to people that looked depressed or sad, and he'd push it, make the noise, and then he'd follow them until they smiled. I mean, he he was just a hoot.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

That's why Roman Williams does such a great job with that role.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Sure, that makes sense. He's that character, yeah. He was that kind of person too.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

Yeah, yes, he was very heartfelt.

SPEAKER_01 29:09

That's interesting. It's like uh we're talking about sound being healing, also being able to laugh and let it's like a for it is a form of like letting go. Like you kind of you ever have you ever been in like a mood or something where something someone's trying to make you laugh, and you kind of you want to laugh, but you stubbornly don't. There is a there is like a a sort of a a veil you need to let go of in order to be free enough to laugh. And then that that is very healing.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Laughter is the best medicine.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

I knew you were gonna say that.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

Yes, that's both that's called low-hanging fruit.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Um, but you know, it's a reason. There's a reason that's a saying, because it does help. I've um have you read the book The Secret?

SPEAKER_00 30:02

No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 30:03

It's yeah, it's it's about like you know, it talks about visualizing visualization and and manifesting and like how to how to do it practically. It talks about something like you said with the the raven, where um for a visualization practice you imagine like a blue feather and then uh really picture it, feel it in your mind, and then let it go, and then see how long it takes for you to find that. But anyway, um I lost my train of thought. No, I didn't. Okay, so um there's a story, there's a story in that about a someone who was like terminally ill, and instead of doing too focusing too much on it and like uh I guess even taking medicine and things like that, they would just they just spent all their last hours watching comedies and watching funny movies and talking about funny stories, like no, no sort of like focusing on any uh negative energy, even even like the illness itself and the practical things that one might expect they need to do. Um, there's focused on funny movies, is laughing as much as possible, and were eventually cured of their illness. And it feels like there is some there is some level of healing that comes from like letting that weight off your sh off your shoulders and laughing, and because when you laugh, you really are present, and there's a lot of gratitude in the laughter. It's like you're you're making funny noises out of joy. So there's I can't explain it necessarily, but maybe you have some insight onto how that is actually healing.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Yeah, whatever you focus on, you create. So uh a couple years ago, I just moved to Des Moines where I live now, and I just bought a concert grand piano, I used one because I play. And so we came down here and I rented this big old Victorian house. I rented the bottom part because I didn't know where I wanted to move yet, so I could fit my piano in there. Well, I think we lived there six months. My daughter was with me, and there was a fire, and so I lost everything in the fire. But not only that, a couple days later, people came in and stole all my jewelry, you know, because you're so traumatized by it. So I watched funny shows. In fact, I watch a lot of Asian shows because they're really funny, because American shows are way too violent for me, um, and laughed in order to get through that trauma that I was went through. So I didn't focus on the trauma, I focused on keeping myself laughing and having fun to help myself get through it, and then it helped me do that. So those traumas, they're there for a reason because we came here to overcome that until we

Raising Kids With Words That Heal

SPEAKER_00 33:00

know who we are and we're okay with who we are. It's really hard to be happy in life. We gotta be able to speak our truth, not be afraid, and be who we are, and then we'll resonate with the people and draw the people that we need to be around. Not that we alienate anyone, but I have many friends I've left behind as I've progressed in my awakening while I'm here. Yeah, and I still am nice to them.

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I just I hear that I've at a different place. Yeah, I'm experiencing that as we speak. I am experiencing that, and uh, it's interesting that you mentioned it. Uh yeah, I guess I'm hearing what I have to hear too. This isn't really a great podcast today. I'm enjoying this immensely. So am I, and and you know the fact is when when we do this podcast, when we actually when we have this conversation and when we live our lives, I don't think there's any other thing, any other purpose than to be live your truth, speak the truth, and be kind, yeah, and be kind, of course. Be uh number one, we have to take care of each other. That's one of the things I remembered from Barney Raid that show, and I never forgot it, and I used it at the end of every one of my shows. Her last thing she said to the audience was take care of each other, and I was wow, no one ever says that at the end of shows. It's the first time I ever heard it, and I never heard it again, except when I say it. But I always said that at the end of every show after hearing Barney say it. Take care of each other. That's the number one purpose I think we have, and after that, it's of course be kind. You can't take care of each other if you're not being kind. That's not you know, the care implies you're being kind.

SPEAKER_00 34:45

Uh, you know, I I I have six grandchildren, and as soon as they can talk, I make them say, I am genius. Oh, you know, say, say I'm genius, and they go, I am genius, I am perfect, I am perfect, and then that's wonderful, yeah. And you know, so what are we programming our children? You're naughty, don't do that, or you know, instead of saying um no, don't, which is a double negative, and then they hear it positive if you do that. Um, I say ta ta, don't ta ta. That's you know, I just create my own word that's not um something that they repeat, like when you say no to them all the time, you'll notice children will say no. No. So I I've worked with a lot of children too. So gifted children.

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You had a loving mother and father, I'm guessing.

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Oh, yeah. My mother was Irish and my father was German. That's why I say I'm perfect. I'm half and half.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Well, I am also half and half. Oh, good job. And um, my son is three quarters and one quarter. So I I lost some of the half part because my mother was Italian, my father was British, German, Scotch, whatever. The West side, and um, so I brought on when I give to my kids, they only got a quarter of that because half of me is Italian, my wife's all Italian, so we got three quarters, but they turned out all right, I'll tell you. And we, I mean, I'm not a perfect dad, but I definitely resonated with what you said about saying that you're a genius. When we one of my friends that or guy that used to work for me, and I worked for the um uh a newspaper, and he um I took him out, he was here for lunch one day, and I took a f went out for a walk with Vernon and his two and his two sisters. We walked around the reservoir and we came back to have lunch. And as soon as we got back, I gave everybody a piece of blank paper and some pencils, and I said, draw something you saw. And this guy never forgot that. And you know, look at my three children, they're they're all artists, really. They they love to create, and it's it's instilled at a young age, it really is. Because creating, I think, is another thing, whether we reflect the universe, we create, we recreate, you know.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

Well, we're creating whether we know it or not. So if we're thinking negative thoughts, we're thinking they we're drawing negative things. That's exactly so control the mind, you know. And I always I one of my affirmations is I release emotion to understanding because emotion creates reaction and understanding, you'll know what your part is in the moment rather than reacting to it.

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You know what your part is in the moment. I love that because that way you're keeping the focus really on yourself.

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Well, that's what it's all about, the whole journey.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Right. And oftentimes we will, you know, shift the focus on something else outside of us, and that takes away from the the growth that you need to have during that period. So as we get near the end of our podcast, um where you are now, which is I think, you know, I want you to tell us all about how you where you are now

Going Global Parting Advice And Farewell

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in your journey.

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Um right now, I you know, I'm doing a podcast with a yogi from India, his name's Sri Gavinda Narinjan. Uh, not really a podcast, I'm doing videos, uh, zooms with him, and we're posting them about um how to raise children, how to do different things. And so I'm working on that, and I had a TV show for about 15 years, so I have over a hundred shows I want to get downloaded on my website so that people can watch them because I had, oh, it was so fun. I had stone readers, I had angel readers, I had eco-friendly architects, organic. My brother's an organic farmer and owns a popcorn company. Uh, had him on. I mean, just near death. I probably had 10 people with near-death experiences on, which is a great topic to talk to people about because a lot of people hide that they've had that. And it's it's such a powerful experience. So I'm working on becoming global. That's what I want to do. I want to help people at a global place, whether it be through music, art, I do artwork. And then I also wrote a book called Achieving Self-Mastery.

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Achieving self-mastery. That's a wonderful place to well, Janine Ambrose. Wow, I'm so grateful to have had you here today with us. It's been an incredible journey going down that. And I'm just getting, I I could talk for an hour about what you've said and what it's inspired in me to talk about, but that's another podcast. Let's we definitely want to circle back and visit with you again. I will say that you're in the Out of the Blue family now. And once you're in the family, you know how family is, it's forever.

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Oh, yes.

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Thank you, Vernon the Third.

SPEAKER_01 39:58

Of course. Yeah, thank you for sharing. Um, definitely feel uh affected positively from just talking to you. Which you know happens often, which is one of the best things about this podcast. But I mean, I yeah, I sometimes will sleep with vibrations on, and sometimes you do you go, is this working? I don't know. And then you just leave them on, and then you wake up and you you know you kind of live, live, live out the truth that you feel from those harmonies and things. So I'm very curious also about your sinus relief sounds.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

I can email that to your dad. Yes, and I'll pass it on for sure.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

I mean, any any form of payment that you need for these kinds of things, like I understand this is your this is your your work and your and your product. So that's all that you know don't don't shy away from asking for that.

SPEAKER_00 40:53

Hey, you're a sweeter, you're intuitive.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

So no, thanks.

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He's very much intuitive, he really is.

SPEAKER_01 40:59

That that means a lot. I appreciate that. I you know, as I know this, I don't know if this will make it in the podcast necessarily, but you know, I struggle with these things as of late, you know. I think I'm in a point in my life where I'm figuring out who I am. I'm trying to take layers off to become a little more free and accepting of whatever my journey might be. As a musician, I know that you probably maybe experienced the the pressure to become some level of successful, and then you realize, well, I just love music, so I'm just gonna keep playing music. I need to reframe what I always thought I would become, because that's not the point. The point is to live my heart's natural path, live that out. So, you know, hearing that I am intuitive is very helpful coming from someone of your prowess. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 41:54

So, Janine, let's let's uh leave our audience with one last statement from you. If you were saying goodbye to us to the people listening right now, and you wanted to tell them some parting words, what would they be?

SPEAKER_00 42:09

Some parting words. Um, believe in yourself. When you start to believe in yourself, everything opens up and you can affect and touch more people.

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Amen to that, Janine. And let's let's say bye to our loving audience. Thank you for joining us. Please hit the like, subscribe, because we need to spread the word. Don't you know that? And of course, you can donate to Janine, you can donate to out of the blue. We always need your help, so don't hesitate in showing your love to us because you know, donating money or any of that, just another form of gratitude. So thank you so much, and I'm very grateful, Janine. We'll be so much in touch. Thank you so much for me too. Thank you. Thank you for joining us today in Out of the Blue. It's been an extremely wonderful pleasure, and I can't wait to do it again. We'll be talking again soon. Thank you all for joining us. This is Vernon West and my son Vernon West III and Janine Ambrose, and this has been Out of the Blue the Podcast. Out of the Blue, the Podcast, hosted by me, Vernon West. Co-hosted by Vernon West the Third, edited by Joe Gallo. Music and logo by Vernon West the Third. Have an out of the blue story of your own you'd like to share? Reach us at info at out of the bluepodcast.org. Subscribe to Out of the Blue on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. And on our website, out of the blue hyphen the podcast.org.