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 Jaymie unpacks this weekend's car ramming in Derby, which was just a few yards from Ickonic's studio. Trump threatens to escalate the conflict in Iran even more by targeting the 'Energy Island'. Motorists in the UK are urged to fill up their cars before Thursday to avoid more spiralling prices and shortages. UK government announces more handouts for MP's and those out of work, while working people are forced to take the cost of living hit even more.

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SPEAKER_02

Good morning and welcome to Monday's episode of Trending. I hope you've had a lovely weekend wherever you are in the world. Well, cars driving into pedestrians, whether that be in Christmas markets, whether that be in residential areas, whether that be in pedestrian areas of cities, is unfortunately something that's not that uncommon anymore. It's something that would have shocked the world just a few years ago to read. However, now it's something that's semi-regular across Europe. But this weekend, this happened literally a stone's throw away from our studios here in the city of Derby, which is a very small city. It's not a particularly populated city when compared to many others here in the UK, but it does have its problems. And for me, I've lived here for about a decade and I've seen those problems get worse and worse and continue to be ignored. So reading something like this or hearing about something like this, as I did on Saturday night, is not something that sadly surprised me whatsoever. Before we dive into it and unpack it, let's listen to what happened in the words of the superintendent of the Derbyshire Police.

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Good afternoon, I'm Chief Superintendent Emmer Aldres, and I lead policing here in Derby. At 9.30 pm last night, seven people were injured in the streets of Derby in an horrific incident that has understandably shocked the city. Officers were on the scene just seconds after a camp collided with pedestrians who were simply injury and incidents in Derby. None of those injured in the incident, physical injuries, the impact on them, I'm sure, is just beginning to be felt. Well, one of the most devastated events of last night, I mean the number of time holding them in my colleagues. I went to my call, and I was who responded so quickly to last night's events. In particular, the members of the public who came to the aid of those injured and helped them stay. I can confirm that the suspected driver was arrested by officers on the other side of the city centre seven minutes after the incident took place. It was safely stopped to the station approach where the bridge crosses over towards the microphone. This reception would not be possible without eyewitnesses who contacted us about the vehicles when they're out as it was driven away from the scene and around the city centre. I want to thank the businesses who helped to ensure that those in the area were kept safe at a time when information was short and have understood the need for those businesses to remain closed today. I'd also like to thank people who live within the scene for their patience whilst we carry out our work. Our investigation into the circumstances is still in its early stages. We believe this is an incident, isolated incident, and there is no wider risk to the public. The arrested man is originally from India but has lived in the UK for a number of years. At this stage, I am unable to give any further details about him. As is common practice for an incident of this nature, our officers are leading the investigation with the support of counter-terrorism policing colleagues. I would like to clarify that this does not mean the incident is currently being treated as terrorism. Finally, I would like to thank the public and members of the media for your patience and understanding. While we work through this extremely extremely complex inquiry, and we will update people as soon as we can. Thank you.

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So, like I say, this is not something that that's a massive surprise, and I think most residents of Derby that have been here for a long time will probably agree that something like this was coming. Because there's a city that's very divided, and it's kind of a microcosm of the rest of the country, really, where you've got lots of different ethnic groups, lots of different faith groups that don't integrate, that don't really get on, and there's always kind of a tension. Now, when I first moved to Derby, it would have been back in 2013. Um, and at that point, the city felt sorry, 2011 it was. At that point, the city was brilliant, it felt safe, it was a great, it was a good laugh, it was good fun, nights out were really, you know, it was everyone was there to have a good time. It was a really buzzing university, the social environment was brilliant. And for me, growing up on the Isle of Wight, where it was very small, where it was very safe, everybody knew everyone, you know, it was a handful of bars, handful of restaurants, handful of places to do anything socially, it felt like a great first step because it was a city, it was bigger, there was more going on, but it wasn't like moving to, you know, the centre of Manhattan or the centre of London where it was just too big. It was intimidating for someone from a small town. Derby felt like a brilliant step. You could walk home from a night out late at night, and you didn't feel remotely threatened. You could stumble home at 2 a.m., you could be out on your own. You I remember the first time I came here, I was with Gareth and a few friends for one of his birthdays, and I got lost. And I'd have only been about 18. I got completely lost, ended up walking home through God knows where at about 2 a.m. to find where we were staying. And at no point did you feel unsafe. Now, and for a lot for a long time now, you walk through the city, the high street in the middle of the day, and there's an edge to it. There's a there's an edge to it where you always feel you need to have your wits about you. You don't want someone to get too close to you. You you're always scanning around to just see what's going on. And that's incredibly sad, but unfortunately, that's not that's not something that's uncommon. That's probably a a story that most of you listening can relate to when you go to whatever city, because cities unfortunately have changed. They've they've they've gone to they've gone to the dogs, as the saying goes, where they've just become quite jungle environments where you've just got a bunch of people that don't really know each other, don't really like each other or get on, that have been chucked into this tiny space essentially where people are living on top of each other, and you're always one event, one word, one wrong look from some kind of violence or some kind of conflict. But this is the this that's that's one aspect to it, of course. But the the whole thing about people driving cars into crowds of people, now obviously the world has changed a lot. The people running it haven't. They've always been psychopathic, you know. You go back to the first world war, the second world war, even wars before that, to see the psychopathic mindset that's run the world and has run it for well over a century, if you look at just look at those two, but I would say even longer than that. But then you look at the psychopathic nature of in within everyday people. This these stories didn't happen 30, 40, 50 years ago. So what what is happening to people? Now I know there's there's there's people that will simplify this massively and say that this is all immigration because this man's from India and lots of the people that are committing terror attacks and violent attacks are immigrants that have come from Middle Eastern countries and North African countries and so on. They'll simplify it down to that when there is a factor that immigration has caused an increase in violence, however, have you been to certain inner cities? Have you seen the violence in schools these days and it's white, working class, British families? So it's not one size fits all, that's the problem. The whole is it ethno-nationalists that just say anyone not born here or anyone whose family are not born here, get rid of them, that will solve every problem. Well, it won't. Because it's not about ethnicity, it's not about religion, it's about mindset and it's about attitude, and you can have a psychopathic mindset regardless of where you're from, and you can have a peaceful, harmonious, loving mindset again, regardless of wherever you're from. Your environment, of course, has a massive impact on whether you grow up to have either of those traits, and that's where I think community comes in. Communities in general need to become more like communities once again, where people actually know each other. You know, you're sat there living with somebody who is literally, especially if you live at a semi-detached house or a terraced house, literally inches from you through the walls, and you don't know them a lot of the time. People don't have any relationships with people. If you look back not too long ago, people had proper relationships with the people that live near them, whether that be in flat blocks, whether that be in cul-de-sac, whether that be in roads, whatever it might be, people knew each other. Communities had a harmony to them. There was a social cohesion, the pub or the church, whichever, but was a real hub for the community. And that's died a lot over the last few years. And I think that's one of the major problems, why there's so many issues in these areas. The other thing is obviously the fact that you've chucking a lot of people into the same area that maybe don't have the same beliefs, don't have the same ethnic ethnicity, don't have the same philosophies on life, certainly don't have the same religious beliefs, and of course that is going to create a problem. But again, it comes down to two very simple things mindset, as I've alluded to there, and also respect. If you respect each other, whether you agree, whether you disagree with how somebody chooses to live, as long as you respect the fact they have a right to live it that way, as long as they're not harming anybody or imposing their will on other people, I don't really care. If you want to sit and believe that when you die, this happens or that happens, how does that affect me unless you're trying to impose it upon me or you're imposing it upon other members of your family who don't maybe don't want to believe that same thing. Why does it affect me? Why does the fact that I don't follow a religious belief affect you? Respect is the foundation of everything, and without that, literally everything else will fall apart. Nothing comes good, nothing comes from the lack of respect. Whether that's a lack of respect in a single household, in a family, in a relationship, in a workplace, and then ultimately into a community and into a country. And that is the point in this in this thing. Um, when Starmer said, as much as I don't like Starmer, when Starmer said we're an island of strangers, he was he was correct. We are we're an island of strangers that don't respect each other. And ultimately that's one of the major reasons we're in these issues, we have these issues. Because what lack of respect have you got to have? One for yourself, and secondly, for life in general, to drive a car into a crowd of people who you don't know, you don't know anything about those people you're driving into, anything about their stories, anything about the families they may have at home that may be relying on them, the loved ones they'd be leaving behind. How do you know that the the the car the car that you've driven down into about I think about 20 people that have ended up injured? How do you know you've not just hit a mother of four whose husband died years ago, and those those four kids rely on just that woman? How do you know? You don't know any of these things. And that comes down again to a lack of respect, a mindset, a psychopathic mindset, a lack of empathy, and just all round evil behaviour. And evil is a word that's overused, I suggest. But if you're driving a car into a group of civilians not knowing or caring what the potential repercussions for them and loved ones may be, that's pretty evil. That's pretty evil. This so this guy was arrested the other side of the city after he'd he'd driven through this crowd and then driven off. He was arrested not too far uh from our office, actually. So seven people were taken to hospital with injuries, around 20 others were injured, they suffered non-life-threatening but serious injuries. Derbyshire detectives are leading the investigation with support of a counter-terrorism policing colleague. Now, this is where I don't understand how they say, oh, it's not terror related. Well, driving a car for a crowd of people who are there having a nice evening out is a pretty terrorising event, isn't it? I suppose their argument is is this linked to potentially more events that are going to happen over the next few days, weeks and months? Is it linked to a particular terrorist group, for example, that are going to claim responsibility for it? It's like when they say this isn't a hate crime or it is a hate crime. Well, I'm pretty sure to the person, the victim, it's a pretty hateful crime, regardless of the person's motives. But anyway, so in terms of motives, there's not really one that's been released yet to suggest that this man has any reason to have done this or any allegiance to any particular group which has inspired him to do this. All we know is it's a 36-year-old man originally from India who's lived in the country for a long time. And what I also find strange, just to finish on this, is normally when you have these events, they normally do everything they can to hide the ethnicity of the person. Yet within minutes, basically, as soon as they'd arrested somebody, the announcement was that this guy was from India. Which again I find strange. When you compare that to say the Southport attacks, or you compare it to various other attacks, the ethnicity of the person was left for debate on Twitter, which caused more problems. So maybe they've learned, and that's why they've released it, so people don't speculate, or maybe there's another reason, I don't know. But it did strike me as interesting because that's not something they would normally do. Normally they would just say, you know, a man in his third a man, a British man age 36, or a man age 36. But the fact that they've gone straight in to describe where he's from is something that's different. So maybe that's that's something they've learned from the past. Because, like I say, when you don't do that, you just fuel speculation and actually make the situation ten times worse. Because, particularly with Southport, people were being gaslit because people made the point this guy was was from um was from where he's from. However, you were then told, oh no, it's just a young lad from Cardiff when it when it wasn't, and people were lied to, and that created more and more problems, and more and more speculation, and more and more gaslighting, which created more anger, more fury, and led to those riots. That was one factor in them. But these sort of things, like I say, they're not uncommon, but they feel very strange when they're close to home. You know, I I will in a minute when I take myself into the studio, I'll go past Frygate, where this was, and it's normally a really busy part of the city, it's full of bars, it's full of restaurants, particularly on a Saturday night, it would have been very busy. So, again, this person has decided to do this at the most dangerous possible time to cause the maximum possible destruction. Sounds pretty evil and terrorizing to me. So, over the next few days, obviously I'll update you. I'm sure Gareth will as well on this story as more information comes out. But for now, our thoughts are with everybody involved, everybody that's affected, those people in hospital and the loved ones. And on the residents of Derby and other cities, you know, we don't cave, we don't cower to these kind of acts because that's exactly what these people want. They want people to feel terrified just leaving their house. And the last thing that we do is let them win. So if you're watching with us on Twitter or X, we're gonna head over to iconic.com now. We're gonna talk about Karg Island, we're gonna talk about UK petrol prices, and we're gonna talk about the latest, latest fury at Labour decisions here in this country. See you there.

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State of awareness is not manipulatable.