This Election Could Reshape Europe | Trending Ep315

 This morning, join Jaymie to discuss the election results from Hungary as Viktor Orbán's 16 years in power is over as Péter Magyar wins by a landslide. Sir Keir Starmer is planning a law which will mean that the UK government can adopt EU single market rules, without a normal parliamentary vote. 'Experts' warns that Iran's nuclear programme has survived US–Israeli attacks and can still make bombs, and Trump says US blockade of Iran's ports will start later as weekend peace talks end without deal.

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Good morning and welcome to Monday's episode of Trending. It's good to be back with you. Hope you had a lovely weekend, whatever you were up to and wherever you are in the world. So we're going to start here in the EU in Hungary, who have just held a major Prime Minister presidential election. And after 16 years, Viktor Orban has been removed from power. He's been voted out in an absolute landslide victory for the party on the other side, headed by Peter Magyar, who now takes over as the new Prime Minister of the country. Now, Viktor Orban is a very interesting figure. He's somebody who, on the surface, in a way, has gone against the rest of the European Union and the rest of the European countries in terms of relationships with Russia, relationships with Trump, and also his attitude towards open door policies and open door immigration across mainland Europe, he's been on the surface, anti all of those things, and as a result, has been at loggerheads with the European uh superpowers for the last, certainly the last 10, 12 years of his presidency. Now, all of that could well be exactly that surface level, but it's very interesting because at a time when right-wing or so-called right-wing populist anti-immigration parties are gaining a lot of popularity. We've seen that with reform, we've seen that in France, with uh Marianne Le Pen's party, we saw it in in Holland until very recently with Gert Wilder's party. They're gaining popularity, some are even gaining seats and gaining uh control in certain countries, like Wilders did in Holland. However, on the flip side of that, there's also quite a strong left-wing movement, socialist movement, that's also getting a lot of popularity. We're seeing that here in the UK with Zach Palansky's Green Party, who are becoming incredibly heavily promoted and starting again to gain seats and gain more and more kudos. Now, when I was a kid, the Green Party would be lucky to get a few hundred votes. It was almost like a rebellion vote to vote for the Green Party in people's minds. Now they're being touted as serious contenders in the next election and they're taking seats in local councils and the local council elections which are coming up and going on at the moment. So we're seeing the same thing by the sound of it in Hungary when you look into the party that have just won and taken over Parliament and the seats in Budapest. But let's let's look into Orban because Orban is a bit of a, as I said, he's an interesting character. He's one of those that's he's been known as a European Trump, the kind of big anti-establishment figure who says things that are outrageous and talks about putting his country first and so on. And you know, words are very easy, and for a lot of Hungarians, from from what I've bit I've read and my experience, I've been to Hungary twice during his presidency, and it seemed a very nice country, a very safe country, people seem very happy. It doesn't seem to be uh riddled with a lot of the problems of Western of the rest of Western Europe and Eastern Europe, which this was a few years ago now. I think the last time I was there was 2018. I'm sure it may have changed, as many of them have, but it's certainly a very beautiful country with a very great culture, really lovely people as well. And and there was always this perception that Orban and his party, their whole philosophy was to protect that and was to put the needs of Hungarians first, rather than this open-door immigration policy that we're seeing across Europe that's caused so many issues in countries like France, Germany, Sweden, and so on. We're kind of seeing a new version of Orban in Poland at the moment where they're kind of doing the same thing in terms of supposedly putting the interests of Indigenous Poles first. Whether that's actually true or it's not, and it's just perception and it's just rhetoric, because it's easy to say because it sounds different to what the rest of them are saying. Only the people that live there and experience that will know. They might say I'm speaking complete rubbish. But on the surface, Orban wanted closer relationships with Russia. He had open dialogue with Putin. He offered to host a Putin and Trump summit, I remember, not too long ago. And he was seen as, you know, a an ally of Putin and a Putin apologist, is how he was portrayed in the Western media. When you've only got to look at it from this perspective, which is if you don't want peace and you don't want better relations with countries, then what are you? Well, one, you're an idiot, and secondly, you're a warmonger, surely. Because you know, if people don't talk, as as anyone knows, Charlie Kirk said it, and it was very apt, when the talking stops, the violence starts, and that's very true. When people are unable to sit across from each other and exchange ideas and have differing opinions, that's when the violence begins. That's when the missiles start firing. So to want to sit there and have closer relationships and have a jovial relationship with another nation, another nuclear superpower that's just on the borders of Europe, that's not an apologist. That's common sense. You don't have to agree with somebody. You think about it from this perspective. If you live in a street and you've got neighbours, you might not like your neighbours, but it's a lot easier for your life if you are civil with them than if you have animosity with them, isn't it? What's going to be a more harmonious street and living environment? People that you have a go at, people that have a go at you, people that you're desperate to avoid, or somebody you go, morning, and then get on with your day. You don't have to like that person, you don't have to agree with everything that person stands for, but it's much easier than having a standoff, which is what Europe has had with Russia for a long time now, but certainly since the start of the Ukraine war, and and more than that, because they've been arming and funding Ukraine in that war. And supposedly, again, this is just a perception of it, Orban was very much against that and was pushing back against European countries and allies sending weapons to Ukraine. Again, true, not true. You've only got the uh the words in the media from him to suggest that he thinks that, whether in closed doors he doesn't say that, and he just goes along with the rest of them, and he's just there to be the sort of light relief where people go, Oh, somebody finally thinks like I do, but in closed doors he's just the same as the rest of them. I don't know. But he's been ousted from power. He's been ousted from power. That's the long and short of this story this morning. After 16 years, the new Prime Minister, Peter Magyar, as I said, told a crowd of cheering supporters in Budapest, Together we overthrew the Hungarian regime. That sounds a little bit extreme because in theory, democracy, you just you just won, you've overthrown them. But based on more than 98% of the votes counted, his party is on for an extraordinary 138 seats, with Orbans potentially getting just 55, which is a huge turnaround. Huge turnaround. Um there's an 80% voter turnout as well in this election, which you know Americans and Brits and so on will know is incredibly high compared to what we have in our elections. So therefore, this must have been very, very uh a very important election to people to get out there and vote. They must have felt there was actually a point in voting. Uh, and and time will tell whether that's true or not. But essentially now it's just Poland in in theory who seem to be the country pushing back against the EU agenda for further and further open borders, more and more unvetted immigration, and more and more essentially bloc thinking, where the European Union acts as a bloc rather than acts as a series of independent nations, which we know is exactly the plan of the European Union. The European Union is not there to be a collection of nations, it's there to become the nation. And then nation states become a thing of the past, they've broken down into regions, national identity and sovereignty becomes a thing of the past. How much have we seen that across mainland Europe in the last few years? You can drive across borders which don't really exist anymore because obviously it's open doors across the across the mainland, and you can't even feel like you're in a different country. I've done it, I've driven between Belgium and France and Holland and uh and Germany, and you don't even feel like you're moving into a different country. You know, it's it's very much the same nation, and a lot of that the European Union has a lot to answer for. And I think a lot of European countries, when they strip it back and ignore the rhetoric of, you know, this is about being together, this is about unity, which it could be, it could absolutely be about unity. A European Union of countries that all support each other, that all have their own individual sovereignty and their own individual identity, but collectively help each other out in different areas, that could be brilliant. That could be fantastic, but that's not what the EU is, and that's not what it's designed to be. It's got its European Central Bank, it's got a European Parliament, which has basically no power in terms of the elected MEPs, it's the European Commission, unelected, that make the decisions. It's obviously based right next to NATO as well, in Belgium. You've also got the situation where you have this call for a European army, which was a conspiracy theory a decade ago and now it's being openly discussed. It's a stalking horse for a world government. It's a stepping stone towards a more centralized totalitarian system. You know, we've just seen roll out in the last few days this ID fingerprint uh facial recognition system across immigration borders for people that are arriving by air in Europe. That again is a European-wide policy, an EU-wide policy. Individuality of countries is gone in many ways in the EU. That's why Britain voted to leave the European Union. Now, it's not made a great it's not made a great uh success of it because it wasn't meant to. Because Britain was meant to be the, in a sense, the example of see, this is what happens if you leave. It's not good. You'll have all these problems, you'll have all that problems. Well, that's not true. The reason it's been a mess is because they deliberately made it a mess to make it that example. It never needed to be. If Britain was run by people that actually wanted Britain to thrive and be successful, Britain would thrive and be successful. It's like you having somebody else make all your decisions in your life. Good example. Think about growing up, right? Your parents take care of you, your parents make decisions on your behalf as you're a child. As you get older, you get that own response, your own responsibility. It's like then turning round blaming your parents for every poor decision that you have ever made. Well, that's in a sense what Britain have done. They've voted to leave the European Union, they've left their parents, and then made horrendous, self-imposed, stupid decision after stupid decision, and now the population are blaming the fact that we're no longer with the European Union and we're no longer with our parents. It's not that, it's the fact that the people in Westminster have been deliberately making shocking decisions, one to showcase just how date how bad it is to other countries to leave the EU, and secondly, because that's part of the agenda, the destruction of Western countries and the destruction of Britain. Really, really easy to see. Really, really easy to see. And if you are like me, somebody who voted out in Brexit, not because you really thought it was going to change everything, because you replace one problem with another one. But I voted out because it's the only time in my lifetime there's been an election that's been a yes-no decision on a policy, not on a person. And a lot of people the same. That's why, you know, to go back to the Hungarian election, talking about the election um turnout being so high. In in the Brexit vote, it was the highest it's been in, I think, the last 50 years. Compared to the last election, it was it was it was insanely higher. Because again, it wasn't voting for a party, it wasn't voting for a person. It was voting for a policy, it was a yes or no question where people knew their vote counted. There wasn't tactical voting in certain areas for certain parties because you want to get this one out. No, it was do you want this yes or no? And people felt empowered, and that's why the turnout was so high. So, with that in mind, this next story that we're gonna dive into in the rest in the second part of the show is gonna make people like me and others that voted out feel even more betrayed than we already do. So head over to iconic.com. We're gonna talk about that story to do with the EU single market, and then we're gonna obviously give you an update on what's going on in the Middle East after the peace talks in Pakistan over the weekend and what's become of them. I'll see you on iconic.com.

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