Burnham Doesn't Get it Does He..? | Trending Ep395

Andy Burnham vows that ALL areas of the country must now take migrants. Overwhelmed probation officers who struggle to keep tabs on prisoners, will have a further 5000 set to be released early from October – the dangers are clear to see. The first solar eclipse since 1999 hits the UK today, so Jaymie asks, 'What do we really know about the moon?' Trump finally does something good, and Zuckerberg says the US must drop the AI 'red tape' to keep up with China. 

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Burnham's immigration plan, overcrowded prisons, the solar eclipse is coming. Has Trump finally done something good? And what's Mark Zuckerberg saying about AI? That plus more in today's episode. Well, hello everybody. Welcome to Wednesday's episode of Trending. Well, if ever you want confirmation that politicians really don't get it, really don't listen, and to be honest, really don't care, then ever listen to this.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Last week we featured children in the village of Piddington. They've written to you personally. One called Rex Perkin. Seven says there's a new um migrants' camp being set up nearby. It will overwhelm the hamlet. He says we like our village. We walk down to see my sister's grave. It will change. I've been here for a hundred years. He loves the playing field. Thanks, Andy. What do you say to people like Rex? Seven years old. See is his village changing irrapidly because you're bringing in the migrants living?

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I um I begun to become aware of the campaign for living to the map. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um I I will listen to what people say. Uh respond to the concerns of the pulling forward. I don't know the issue yet in detail. But in some ways as I understand is about creating secure space. Um issues. I'm always to listen to people. I'm to pick up legitimate concerns, and I will uh address those concerns. I do have to say we cannot have a situation where it's only the poorest communities in the country that uh receive all of the dispersal of refugees and asylum seekers. I do believe all parts of the country uh need to um to work uh to play that to play their part. It's a challenging issue. We're working out so we understand people's concerns, uh, and I will uh look into the uh issues raised by the uh the good people at Pivington.

SPEAKER_01 2:07

That's the new Prime Minister of Britain, the unelected new Prime Minister of Britain, Andy Burnham. He doesn't get it, does he? He doesn't get that the distribution uh of migrants to different parts of the country is not the problem. It's the problem the problem is migrants coming over in small boats in such large numbers. That's the problem that people have. Nearly 3,000 people have come over in the last 20 days alone, including a record 200 or so in one boat this week. Now, that's the problem. That's the concern that people have. It's not where they're being put. Because that description from that young uh young man that was uh put to him about their village, about their town, well, by putting them in different areas of the country, you're just gonna create that problem, you're gonna create that feeling, you're gonna create that concern everywhere then, aren't you? Which is what they want. It's absolutely what they want for many different reasons. Well, there's a whole depends how conspiratory you want to get. Well, we're on iconic, so we can get very conspiratorial. There's this whole concept that they are importing an army, and that's why when you look at these boats, when you look at the people coming across, they're not families, they're not women, they're not children. In overwhelmingly large numbers, they are adult men. They're men between 20 and 40, 20 and 50. So military age, fighting age men. So you're importing essentially a military. And we know that they want to bring an end to nation states, we know they want to bring an end to sense of a sense of national identity. They've achieved that in large parts of the world, mainland Europe in particular, where indigenous cultures are overwhelmed, are might are becoming the minority, and therefore a sense of national pride, a sense of national togetherness disappears. And as a result, you achieve exactly what you're trying to achieve, which is a dilution of national identity. Now, eventually there is going to be a hard reset to that. There will be, undoubtedly. You know, I talked about on Monday's episode the the news breaking that the new IRA, as they're calling themselves, over in Ireland, are on standby, ready to act if this issue of immigration in Ireland is not dealt with. And I spoke to a couple of friends of mine over in Ireland in the last couple of days, and that's apparently very much the case, and very much true that there is essentially, imminently, something going to happen. Well, as I said on Monday's episode, that is inevitable. It was always inevitable, and it will be inevitable in other parts of the world, including in Britain, because as we've spoken about, it's becoming boring the amount of times we have to say the same thing. But if you ignore a genuine grievance, eventually people will start to realise no one's going to do anything unless they do so, therefore they will take matters into their own hands. You know, you can apply that to anything. If you're being bullied in school and you're telling the teacher, and you're telling the teacher, and you're telling the teacher and they're doing nothing to help you, they're ignoring you, they're palming you off, they're not in any way supporting you, then eventually you're gonna have to learn to stand up for yourself, aren't you? And that is what is happening. These cases are being reported, these concerns are being raised, election after election after election, this is one of the key topics discussed, and time and time again, people's concerns are ignored. To the point now that if you'd have taken a poll ten, fifteen years ago say go back to the 2015 election, if you'd have taken a poll in that election across the country where on the the list of priorities immigration of small boats was, I guarantee it wouldn't have been quite number one. But equally, I guarantee the amount of people that said they were concerned about it as a percentage would have been significantly lower than it is today. But since then, we have seen an exponential rise year after year, and therefore more and more people who weren't concerned at one time and would have probably called people like me who are concerned a racist far-right bigot. Well, now all of a sudden they're concerned because they're seeing how much their communities are changing. They are seeing how purely on an economic level the infrastructure of the country cannot cope. The welfare system cannot cope. The basic fairness of people born in this country who have paid into the system who maybe fall on hard times not being prioritized, the number of people claiming benefits, paid for by me people like you and I who have been here five minutes, an asylum bill of well over fifteen billion pounds a year while people are sleeping in the streets, while there's no money to support people, while food prices, while energy prices, while all the prices of these things are are are rising to the point that people are quite literally having to choose between eating and heating. The elderly are deprived. People who have paid into the system their whole lives, worked to build this country now, are being left to rot. That sense of injustice angers people, and understandably so. And politician after politician after politician ignores those concerns. Now, what's going to happen eventually, which you know, going back to the conspiratorial attitude, is in my opinion the absolute plan. Is this just going to become a powder keg at some point and you're going to have a jungle atmosphere on the on the streets, you're going to have violence, you're going to have people feeling such a sense of injustice and such a sense of anger that they're going to take matters into their own hands. That's absolutely going to come. Because you can only push people so far. You push people to the point where they feel they have no choice but to stand up, then they're going to stand up. And that's what they want. They want divide and rule. They want people fighting each other. Because if the indigenous population of Britain fights migrants coming over, then what's that doing? That's one, it's creating a massive division within the country. And secondly, it's stopping people looking up at the very people controlling both sides. These migrants coming over, they're not they don't, you know, the people that are allowing them over and the people that are putting, they don't care about them. They're using them as pawns to create an outcome. And the outcome is essentially mass civil unrest. Because with that be c comes an opportunity to try and crack down and control it. You know, every authoritarian regime deals with any form of discontent in a particular way. And if you look at who look at history, no authoritarian draconian regime has ever been displaced by anything other than a major revolution. And when they have been displaced, they've been displaced in five minutes, metaphorically. It's not taken decades, it's taken very little time when people finally say enough. And that's what's going to happen, and that's what needs to happen. And as I said on Monday, you know, we have different belief systems, we have different cultures, we have different perspectives on the world. It's what makes the world an interesting place. The fact that when you travel around, people don't see it quite the same. That's amazing. However, what there needs to be is a basic respect between each culture, between each belief system, between each religion. That you believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, you don't impose your will on me, I won't impose it on you. You have respect for the surroundings you are in. You have come into a nation that is not built on the back of a particular religion, it's not built on the back of a particular mindset. It's a, you know, there's there's an argument that Britain is a Christian nation, and you can you can make an argument for that. If you look back historically, you look at, you know, villages of five houses, and there's a massive church, and you can you can point that out and historically built into the kind of very fabric of Britain, you know, go back to what we learned at school about the Tudors, and you had the Protestants and the Catholics and so on. So the Christian belief system does run through British society. I would I would not argue with that at all. I would say that that this country's history is built on fairness, it's built on tolerance, it's built on respect, it's built on the fact that, you know, we look back at things like the British Empire, and nobody alive today, I think, would condone some of the things or a lot of the things that that did, particularly in places like India and so on. So you look back and you go, okay, well, let's not repeat that, let's learn from that. We're based on politeness, we're based on caring, we're based on lots of things. And I think if you ask somebody what a British value would be, if you're asking me as an Englishman, I would say it's about respect, it's about tolerance, it's about taking care of one another, it's about loving your your um surroundings, it's about looking after your community, it's about those kinds of things. And it's about respect. Really? I'd consider myself a very respectful person of different people's beliefs and different people's perspectives on the world. I'm always interested in hearing and learning. Just don't try and impose it on me. Don't try and tell me that I'm a bad person if I don't follow the same belief system as you. That's where my line is. And that's not a particularly high bar, is it? So as long as people that come into this country understand that, that if you want to, you know, pray five times a day, if then go ahead. That's not my problem. That's not my concern. That's entirely of your however if you've got a a mosque playing out calling people to prayer at six o'clock in the evening, where everyone in the town has to hear that, whether they are part of that or not, maybe that's not quite right. And that happens in lots of parts of the country. You know, maybe people wearing whatever they want to wear is fine. But then shouting at somebody who's wearing something different, yeah, yeah, that's that's too far, isn't it? And as long as those lines are built and there is respect where attitudes towards women, attitudes towards various different things might be different in different parts of the world. But in this country, we behave like this. If people come in and respect that and go along with that, and in a sense fall in line with that, there would be no problem. We wouldn't have a sense of kind of ghetto communities in different parts of the country where certain cities have different factions of people in different parts of it, and it's a no-go area if you're this colour, it's a no-go area if you're that colour, no-go area if you're not wearing a particular outfit. That's where you end up with a completely broken country, which is what we have right now. And we have a broken country in particular when it comes to the cities, the major cities and the major towns. But with this policy that Burnham's talking about here of putting people into different parts of the country, including what he describes as wealthy and affluent areas, well, all of a sudden, that problem that you have in the cities, that problem that you have in the the towns, well, that becomes a problem then in the small towns, it becomes a problem in the villages, it becomes a problem in the hamlets. I mean, you've imagine just for just for a an example. I live in a village here in South Derbyshire, it's probably got about 5,000 people, 3,000 people maybe in the whole village, right? Imagine if, so there's an old hotel in the middle that's been derelict for quite a long time, and people are are very much, you know, every time there's there looks like there's some building work going on it, they are going on at it, are always speculating that that's what it's going to be. It's going to become a a place for migrants. Now I think it's about a 50-room hotel. So let's say you you you put 50 migrants into that hotel, that would change this village. Of course it would. Because you're putting 50 people who you don't know who they are, for one, into a village where there's two schools, into a village where there's not a lot going on. There's a couple of pubs and a couple of hairdressers and a and a village shop, basically. What are they gonna do all day? What are they gonna do all day? They're probably gonna sit in the park, they're probably gonna wander around the streets, and all of a sudden the whole uh feeling of the town changes. Well, imagine that in every village and town across the country. Imagine how people are gonna feel. They're gonna feel on edge. Because if you had anyone move in next door to you and you didn't have a clue who they were, they'd come across in a small boat from whatever country, with whatever culture, and you had no idea who they were, you had no idea who they stood for, you know if they even are who they say they are. There's there was sufficient evidence of people throwing their documentation into the sea before landing on these shores, so they can't be, you know, traced back to who they are. Would that not concern you? Of course it would. Of course it would. And that concern is going to be rolled out across the country. And all he's doing by by this policy is ensuring that the hatred and anger towards him comes from just about every side. And also what's important to mention as well, and this is where the politics of right and left come in, is the more prosperous, affluent areas of the country are probably never voting Labour. So therefore, as a result, he's probably getting a bit more support from his natural base for doing this, and he's pissing off people who would never have voted for him anyway. So in Burnham's case, when it comes to the political backlash of this, it's kind of a bit of a win-win, isn't it? All this is going to do is put more support the way of reform and restore and even possibly the conservatives, which, you know, was was unkind of deniably going to happen anyway, if if this policy continues. So political point scoring mixed with the actual agenda, which is to create the same atmosphere that we have in in major cities, which is a feeling of separation. You know, the only true thing I think Keir Starmer said was an island of strange strangers, which is very true, which is what you get when you chuck a massive group of people of varying different ideologies into one place and they separate, they keep themselves to themselves in many ways, and you create a complete different factions in different parts of cities and towns. Always gonna happen. If you chuck five people of different backgrounds into one house where they don't have other people that think the same as them to kind of a sense migrate towards, you're probably gonna get those people getting on. You're probably gonna get those people finding common ground and speaking to each other. Well, that's not what we have here. We have the exact opposite of that, and as a result, you have a country that is lost, completely lost. You have a country that is angry, you have a country that is scared, and I completely understand why. And hearing policies like this, this idiot speak, you know this isn't changing anytime soon. You know this isn't something that's gonna change because people have called for it, the politicians have listened, and everything's gonna change. You know it's not gonna happen. You know this same policy is gonna continue, and eventually that powder keg I've described, the story we covered on Monday from the IRA, that is gonna happen. It's in it's inevitable. And like I've said many a time, that's not an accident, that's not collateral damage. They want that to happen. They want mass civil war because order out of chaos, as the Masons say. Create the chaos, and then they'll bring in an order to bring an end to it, which is exactly what they wanted in the first place. You know, call me a conspiracy theorist, but you can see how this is playing out very clearly, day on day. And we've got to be very smart about this. We've got to be very clever, we've got to hold our counsel, we've got to do everything we can to prevent this from becoming exactly what they want. And exactly how we do that, I don't have all the answers sat here this morning, but I do know that violence and and mass civil war isn't the answer. That's not what they want. Maybe civil unrest, maybe non-compliance, 100% a refusal to pay into this system, a refusal to buy into it, a refusal to uh yield to what it's trying to achieve, to comply with our own enslavement and destruction. Yeah, that's one thing. And there's lots of ways that we can do that. And we'll get into those as time goes on. Right, if you're watching with us on Twitter and YouTube, thank you for joining me. Head over to iconic.com to watch the rest of this morning's episode. We're gonna talk about the prison uh system and how um the fact it's overwhelmed is being used as an excuse for releasing 5,000 criminals early onto our streets. I'm sure that will create a nice atmosphere again, won't it? We're gonna talk about the solar eclipse that's happening later on today in the UK. We're gonna talk about Trump's finally done something good, and we're gonna end by talking about Mark Zuckerberg's comments on AI. I'll see you over on Iconic. Take care.

SPEAKER_04 19:46

Thank you. I've just seen the most horrendous news on the upstream finals. No, I actually wish I could have seen it.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

You mean that's something that I've been packing on about for years now?

SPEAKER_04 19:57

Shall I? Say then, how do I become a conspiracy realist?

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