The Download Podcast, with Jill Marshall
Exploring patterns, archetypes, and stories that reveal who we are — and who we can become.
Bestselling novelist and storyworld creator Jill Marshall hosts The Download, a podcast where fiction, intuition and philosophy meet. Drawing on her books and cross-media storyworlds, Jill explores the archetypes, synchronicities, and hidden currents that shape both our personal lives and our collective stories. Each episode invites you to see creativity not just as art, but as a mirror of truth, a prophetic force, and a pathway to self-development.
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The Download Podcast, with Jill Marshall
The Power of Mental Liquidity and the Art of Pivoting (feat. Stephen Bartlett’s Insight)
What Stephen Bartlett’s advice about killing ideas teaches us about adaptability, creativity, and the pivoting power of mental liquidity.
What if your “best idea” is actually holding you back? In this episode of The Download, Jill Marshall unpacks Stephen Bartlett’s provocative advice about killing ideas — and explores the deeper archetype behind it: mental liquidity.
Drawing on Jungian insights, storytelling, and her own creative practice, Jill reveals why adaptability is more powerful than certainty. By learning to let go of the concepts, identities, and even dreams that no longer serve us, we open ourselves to the deeper current of creativity and transformation.
Whether you’re a writer, founder, or seeker, this conversation invites you to embrace flow, shed rigidity, and discover the power of mental liquidity in your own story.
🕒 Chapter Markers
00:00 Welcome to The Download
00:42 Stephen Bartlett on Killing Ideas
02:10 What Is Mental Liquidity?
03:55 When Holding On Blocks Flow
05:20 Archetypes of Rigidity vs Adaptability
07:15 How to Practice Letting Go of Ideas
09:48 Mental Liquidity in the Creative Process
12:20 Finding Freedom in Fluidity
14:10 Conclusion: Flow, Don’t Cling
📌Related Episode Links
Letting Go of the Log: Embracing Your True Self (Ep. 24)
Patterns, Prophecy, and the Stories We Tell (Ep. 25)
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