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EP.100 REVENGE!!
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What happens when someone crosses the line and leaves damage behind? Do you walk away… or make sure they feel it too?
In this episode of SavagelyLOUD, we dive headfirst into the raw subject of revenge — the good, the bad, and the ugly side of getting even. From betrayal, disrespect, heartbreak, and lies to the deeper psychological need for justice, we break down why revenge feels so powerful and why so many people secretly crave it.
But is revenge actually strength… or just pain wearing armor?
We talk about the moments where revenge may feel deserved, the times it destroys people from the inside out, and whether true power comes from retaliation or refusing to let someone control your peace. Nothing is off limits as we discuss human emotion, ego, vengeance, self-respect, and the dangerous line between justice and obsession.
Some people forgive.
Some people forget.
And some people make sure the world burns first.
Everything you're about to hear is for entertainment purposes only. Listen, have some fun, but don't ever do, believe, or promote anything they say. They're idiots.
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SPEAKER_02Well, uh, today is the hundredth episode. Um, you're gonna notice um I got I got I've got some things coming up, so we might just do a couple of weeks with one show instead of having the guest show um on Tuesday and then the rant show on Thursday. You're gonna notice that uh there's only one show posted, but this is the hundredth episode. Like this is it. It's not coming anymore, it's not on its way anymore. It's absolutely actually here. And uh what better way to ring in the hundredth episode than you know, just getting into our feelings. But not the kind of not the kind of feelings of like it's a beautiful day and everything is wonderful. I'm talking about feelings of vengeance, feelings of revenge. I want to talk about payback. Payback's a motherfucker.
SPEAKER_01That's all I gotta say. Payback comes to every motherfucker out there, and you'll learn. You'll learn.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Uh, you know, when it I when it comes to revenge, it's human nature. Anybody that ever tells you that I have never fucking looked to get revenge on somebody is lying to you. Lying their ass off. Yeah, everybody's wanted it. Right through their fake ass teeth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, it could be somebody just as easy as they um, you know, you're going to get a taxi and they took your taxi cab. I'm out that that motherfucker, you want revenge, right? Be some or they they bought the last fucking movie you wanted to go see, or the last amount of tickets that you wanted to go see a show, or something like that. Everybody's wanted it in some way, shape, or fucking form. So don't fool yourself.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And it does go all the way down to the dumbest shit. All the way down to you took the movie off the shelf that I wanted to rent. And for all you younger people out there that might not understand that reference, we, in order to rent movies, used to have to get in the car, leave the house, go to another place, and then walk around and you like pull movies back to see if there was one there. You know, like it was a whole process.
SPEAKER_01Fuck Blockbuster video, bro.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, blockbuster video, Hollywood video. Yeah, I liked Hollywood video for the game section, but Blockbuster for the movie selection.
SPEAKER_01I I almost thought you were about to say gay selection.
SPEAKER_02No, I for gay selection, I definitely prefer the internet.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, but no, you're right. I mean, the videos, I mean, I mean it even goes down to you took the last pen. Yeah. That's how fucking petty things can get and why people want revenge.
SPEAKER_02Well, and and you know, and that's and and that's the part of the you know, one of the parts of the of revenge that we really need to break down is when does it does it, when is it deserved? When should you try to obtain this said revenge? Because, you know, we live in a society now where, and and I know I'm gonna shock a lot of people here, but people are fucking assholes now. And we live, you know, ming intermingled amongst these people, and they, you know, these people are so self-righteous, so entitled, and and so self-absorbed that no matter what happens that doesn't go their way, they want to make somebody pay for that. They want revenge in some way, shape, or form. They want to ruin somebody's day. And like you said, it's like, oh, I went to sign the fucking paperwork and I went to grab the pen out of the the, you know, the out of the little cup on the counter at the bank, and somebody grabbed the last pen. People will want to punch that person in the face, you know, because they'll say things like, oh, you know, like you know, when that happens, they'll just sit there and fucking talk to themselves, like, this motherfucker, I got shit to do. I've got so much shit to do. Like, I like who the fuck does this guy think he is? I'm so busy, I need that pen. I need to get the fuck through this. But if if that person that took the last pen heard that and then said the exact same shit, the person that was saying it originally would totally disagree. No, you're not busy. What what do you mean you're busy? You think you're busier than me? And really, neither one of them are fucking got a goddamn thing to do, and that's why they're sitting at the bank.
SPEAKER_01No, exactly. The crazy thing is, is you it can even go further than that. It can go to the people that already wake up in a bad mood and they just want to take it on in somebody else. So I mean, it's more or less revenge, but you're not giving it to the person that you actually want to, you're giving it to the innocent people, and you have a lot of people like that out there too that do that shit.
SPEAKER_02Well, and I gotta be honest with you, like I'm I'm fully transparent with everybody. Um, I've had days where I woke up and I literally I was like, I'm gonna take it out on somebody today. Like, I it's I have too I and I think we all have. We've we if you're a human with a beating heart and something to do during the day other than just stay in bed and do nothing, um, you've had that. You you have woken up and just being like, ah crack those knuckles, be like, I'm gonna take it out on somebody today. You know, I'm guilty of it. I've done it. You know, I'm not proud of it, but I've done it. But most people live like that because, you know, and here's the secret behind that. Like, it's it's not a it shouldn't be a secret, but everybody wants to act like it's a secret. If you actually do something with your fucking life that's worth a shit, you're probably not gonna be looking for a whole lot of vengeance. You're not gonna be looking for a whole lot of revenge. You're probably not gonna be in that bad of a mood all the time. You might be a little bit frantic, a little bit stressed out, a little bit maybe, maybe a little bit edgy, but you're going to be accomplishing shit that, and and accomplishing shit requires more of your attention than you have outside of situations like uh, you know, like when you're just concerned with, you know, taking it out on people, taking out your bad day on people, or you're getting revenge on somebody, you probably ain't got a lot of shit going on. It's the you're nothing's really filling your schedule or packing your brain.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, uh, I would have to agree on that. Because I mean, I found myself in that position a while ago with some shit, and once I started um winning, I guess you can say, I noticed that that started going away. You know, and for for us Norris pagans, we we have a little special somebody that will be in your ear, you know, Vidar, who is the god of vengeance, you know, revenge and all that stuff. He was my dark passenger for quite some time. And finally, when I was able to quiet that aspect down, things just got a whole lot better.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Yeah, not being consumed with uh with a bunch of piss, you know, pissing and moaning and ranting and raving and just anger and resentment and not being full of that shit really does help pick up the fucking quality of your life. I mean, it really fucking does.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it does. It does. I it's like night and day completely. I mean, because I I could remember for a number of years or I just had so much hatred, so much I was just so focused on ruining and destroying and all that stuff, that it consumed me so much that that's all I thought about every fucking day. And it made my life, I was angry all the time. I just wanted to and being able to break that cycle, it just like now somebody can, you know, it's like when that comes up, it's like you'll get yours. You'll get it. Not now, not tomorrow, but you will. Yeah, I'm a long game expert now. Yeah, I mean, and and that's the best way to be, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Well, and and here's the thing is too, is you know, you know, you don't want to get consumed with revenge and you don't want to get consumed with payback. Also, you don't want to go this fucking modern Christian, turn the other cheek, accept your accept all the abuse bullshit either. You wanna fucking you wanna you wanna set your boundaries. You are always going to get treated to the worst level that you accept by everybody. That's the worst of what you accept is the best of what you'll get. It and and you know what? After a while, and you know, especially when it comes to revenge, that's a conversation, you know, because revenge lands people in prison and it lands people in the grave all the fucking time. So it's really important to think about revenge before you get it. And revenge, revenge really has this negative connotation, and that's the reason I brought up modern Christianity. And I'm not attacking Christians, I'm not attacking Christianity. I'm attacking, I'm attacking the the notion of this modern Christianity I keep hearing about, where it's different or allegedly different than old Christianity. It seems to be, I will give it that. But this modern Christian interpretation, you know, of make no peace with evil is just like, oh, just let it rape you until you until you can get away and then don't talk to it anymore. That that's not payback, that's not revenge, that's not boundary setting. That's that's you accepting the worst of the fucking behavior that are your that you're offered with a smile. And you can't do that either. No, however. No, you can't go for it.
SPEAKER_01You can't do that. I mean, that's just how how do you want to why would you want to live like that? I don't know, I don't. No, neither do I. And that's that was like one of the biggest reasons why my department from Christianity when I found Norse paganism was because I couldn't agree with stuff like that. I can't turn the other cheek. If somebody if somebody disrespects you or does something to you, you can't just turn the other cheek all the time. Yeah, there's occasions where you can just be like, okay, this isn't worth it.
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SPEAKER_01Turn the other cheek and walk away. But I have a really hard time doing that.
SPEAKER_02I really don't when it comes to disrespect, that's a fucking that's a fine line for me because you know it's what is respect and and what level of disrespect do you have to do you have to receive before vengeance is actually warranted? Because in the modern society we live in today, everybody wants to be respected. Okay. So like I um you guys will remember a video. If you watch my content, you'll what remember a video that of a situation I had happen at work. Uh, it was a Mexican dude. So for everybody in the comments that says he was a black dude, it was a Mexican dude. Uh uh. So yeah, so I'm I'm at I'll tell you the story. So I'm at the bench vice and I'm bending some metal around. I'm doing some shit and I'm trying to compress this coil spring, you know, just a little coil spring. It was a door coil for an old Chevy Tahoe for a door hinge. And they're a motherfucker, if you've ever done the job. See, Chevy, in their infinite wisdom, decided to weld the fucking door hinges onto the door and the fucking car in the 90s and the early 2000s. They're the it's the dumbest fucking idea you could possibly ever imagine. And they stopped doing it because the welds were breaking on the Chevy Astro vans and the slider doors were heading down the fucking highway and shit. So they had they stopped doing it. But I had to fucking I had to put door hinge bushings in these this piece of shit, ta oh. And uh, so I'm over at the benchwise, I'm doing my thing. This other dude who is not named Marcus, but I am Marcus, and he is Marcus. We are Marcus. That's just that's the way it works. We just call each other Marcus for some reason. Um, but I he was, you know, on a he was on fire. Like he was just mad, like storming around. I was like, what's going on, Marcus? What do you need? And and he's like, I'm trying to find a fucking floor jack. We got a half a dozen fucking floor jacks, and I can't find single fucking one. And I was like, well, I was like, no, this motherfucker, and I and I turned around, the detailer was right behind me, fucking detailing an old Nova. I said, Well, you know, this these motherfuckers here got their, you know, they got their cars jacked up, they got jacks under their cars. So there's one over by the Tahoe. I don't need it anymore, so go grab that one. Well, next thing you know, I turn around and this 50-year-old some fucking Mexican dude is fucking, he tells me, he goes, You need to watch who you're calling motherfucker. And I was like, Wait, what? What are you talking about? I got so confused. I was like, what are you talking about? And he's like, You called me a motherfucker, and you called Willie motherfucker, too. I was like, dude, what I just I was just like, these motherfuckers over here. What's the problem? And he's like, Well, I don't appreciate being called motherfucker. I was like, I didn't call you a motherfucker, I just referenced other humans. I was like, what country do you fucking live in? In America, everybody's like, this motherfucker, that motherfucker, I'm a motherfucker, he's a motherfucker. Like, that's how we just talk. I said, and plus, I was like, you're in fucking, you you live in fucking Bellwood, which is a fucking shithole suburb of Chicago. Like, it's ghetto as fuck. It's gangland. Everybody there. I don't think there's a single fucking person in the goddamn city of Chicago entirely, let alone where you live, that has ever used anybody's name. It's just motherfucker all the time. But now all of a sudden, after fucking years of working together and never having a single issue, you're gonna fucking you want to get up in my face and talk about respect? How about we talk about the fucking respect level of how you approach this topic? You know I didn't mean anything about it because we've worked together for years. You know me. So, but today was the day you decided you wanted to try to pull my card. I was like, I'll fucking dance with you if you want to. I got no problem playing that game. But it but if you want to talk about respect, why didn't you come up to me and you fucking say, hey man, you referenced me as motherfucker and it just kind of hit me off. Could you please not do that again? That's respect. But instead, you took a situation that was not a situation and you exacerbated it into a fucking gigantic, catastrophic fucking situation. I actually left work. I was pissed. I was like, the only way I'm not gonna blow this motherfucker away right in the shop, because mind you, I I am always armed. Always. The only way this motherfucker is not gonna get blown away in the fucking shop is if I fucking leave. So I fucking left. Um, because we, you know, I called the boss over. Even the boss was on my side. Like, what are you doing, dude? What where is this all coming from? You know, it's like, what do you what is your fucking girlfriend leaving you or something? What the fuck's going on? You know, the fucking mind you, the number one fucking thing he this dude's done in his life is wash cars. Like, that's that's the number one accomplishment that he's got under his belt in his life. 50-some-year-old dude washing fucking cars, talking about deserving respect. Get the fuck out of here. Why don't you go get some fucking accomplishments and then I'll give you the respect you feel you deserve? But that is the problem. All of society is just like him. All of society does fuck all with their lives, has zero fucking accomplishments under their belt. Zero fucking nothing have they done with their fucking lives. But for some reason, they're really fucking deserving of the same same respect you might give somebody like Andy Frasella or Ed Milette or Tom Bilieu or fucking uh Dean Graciosi or fucking Tony Robbins. They fucking, they feel like they deserve the same respect these motherfuckers get. And these motherfuckers have all built thousands of fucking people and hundreds of fucking businesses. Like literally have built thousands of fucking people out of nothing. And they, these, all of society feels like they've they with me with all of my no accomplishments, I deserve that kind of respect. This is where the fucking people gotta get it. You gotta get your head out of your ass. Common courtesy, common courtesy is given. Respect is earned. Y'all keep fucking this up. If I walk into a gas station and I bump into a bump into somebody, it is owed to him that I say, Oh, hey, I mean, I'm sorry about that. Didn't see you. Are you all right? That's common courtesy. But if I was to walk into the gas station and bump into him, I don't have to bow to this motherfucker. I don't have to salute him, I don't have to honor him with a flag out front of my house. But that's how fucking people think it is. That's how all people move through society. Like, you will fucking respect me. How many fucking times do you see videos of all these fucking pieces shit, fucking gangbangers and thugs and fucking white trash and all these other motherfuckers, drunks and alcoholics and fucking drug addicts, all getting in fights in the fucking street. And what's the how many fucking times do you hear him say, you will fucking respect me? Why? Why? That's the question. It's you you made the statement. I asked the question. You will respect me, and I asked why. And when you ask them why, they have no fucking answer other than you don't know who you're talking to. You're right. And if I if I if I if you were all that deserving of respect, I probably would know who I'm talking to, wouldn't I? I don't like that at all.
SPEAKER_01I've pulled that I I couldn't imagine they'd actually like that.
SPEAKER_02No, no, they get real mad. Real fucking mad. One dude swung on me and I pulled my gun on him. I was like, Do you want to go home or do you want to go home in a I was like, Do you want to go home or do you want to go do you want to go home uh in your car or do you want to go home in a box? Make your fucking decision. And he took one step forward and I said, one more fucking step, and I will pull this motherfucker. I'm trying to help you out. You don't deserve nearly the respect you think you do. I am I'm sorry I fucking whatever I'm sorry whatever happened to you happened to you but I'm not the fucking dude that you're gonna pull this bullshit on. I will be the dude that ends it all for you though. And he fucking reluctantly with a gun in his fucking face and a guy like me ready to pull the fucking trigger. This dude reluctantly backed off. Reluctantly backed off. And it was all based on he believed that he deserved a bunch of fucking respect just because he's him, just because he's breathing, just because he was standing in front of me, I owed him. Fuck you.
SPEAKER_01No, no, that's not how that works. Like you said, respect is earned. 100%. You have to earn that shit. And it's easy, it's hard to earn, but it's easy to lose.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. And once in my book, once you fucking lose it, there's it's not it depending on what you did. Let's let's caveat this. I know it's uh you know a hard ass thing to say, once you lose it, it's never coming back. You can earn respect back from me. However, it takes a lot, it takes twice as long to earn it back as it did to earn it in the first place, at least. And it's all dependent on what you did. There's a lot of shit you can do to me that you can come back from. We can fix this, we can work through this. Right. But there's also a lot of shit that once you do that to me, we're you're done. You're you're it's over. Like you just pack your shit, take your fucking ball, and go the fuck home.
SPEAKER_01No, no, and that's exactly how I am. I mean, it depending on what you do is gonna determine on what happens next. And how you handle it. Exactly. You know, and if it if it's the latter effect and it's no coming back from that, to me at that point, it's like now you just lost my respect. Now you lost, I mean, you now are in like essentially just dead to me. You're just uh a pawn in the cog, and you're just somebody I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, and such I become indifferent very quickly. Like, I don't hate you, I don't love you, I don't think about you. I you don't exist anymore. And that's the fucking number one way you can build your own success. In fact, I just had a situation, you know about this situation, but uh I just had a situation, I dealt with it, you know, this weekend. Um, I felt like I got slighted by a friend of mine. So I brought it to him, and you know what that fucking dude did? You know what that fucking dude did? I I I I sent him a big long audio message, you know, just trying to detail where my position was and how I felt about the situation that had happened. And I said, you know, it's not time sensitive. Listen to whenever listen to it whenever you get a fucking chance. Uh, dude, that dude went out and listened to it immediately. Had a whole fuck ton of shit going on, and he sat down and listened to it immediately and then called me at as soon as he possibly could. And then you know what happened? He owned everything that I fucking said. Like he owned it. He didn't try to validate it, he didn't try to justify it, he didn't try to provide some sort of reasoning, he didn't excuse it, nothing. He owned it and he fucking apologized. He's like, dude, I'm really fucking sorry I made you feel like that. You know, I have this thing in me where sometimes I'm I get like that and and I just don't realize it. And I need this. Like, I need, you know, people to set me straight every now and then, and I and I appreciate that you loving me enough to bring this to me. And and and it was fucking amazing. And what happened is that was one of those things where it's like, I respected you before, but now that we've had this situation, because it was the the first one we've really run into. Now that we've had this situation, the respect I had for you fucking tripled. It fucking tripled because you handled this right out of the fucking, and it wasn't like at no point did I ever get the vibe because you know, I I'm gonna say some shocking shit here for anybody that knows me. Um, a lot of people just like to get me to shut the fuck up. They like to get this situation to go away. So they will just tell me whatever the fuck they think they need to tell me to get the situation to go away. If they need to fucking own it, oh, I fucked up everything, I'm so sorry, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, they'll do that just to get the situation go away. And they don't actually fucking believe it. They don't actually fucking mean it. This dude didn't do none of that shit. And and that's I and I appreciated the fuck out of that. But then again, most people, if you if I would have brought that shit to them, if it was just most people, they would have been, how fucking dare you? How dare you put this on me, and how dare you think this about me, and how dare you believe this about this and that and the other thing, they would have fucking tried to excuse it out of the gate and got defensive and then went offensive and tried to attack me, and then we wouldn't have been friends. All because I had a sim, uh, I had an issue with the way I was treated. You know, this is why I set boundaries, and this is why people aren't allowed in my life unless they respect them goddamn boundaries.
SPEAKER_01No, no, and that everybody should have boundaries, you know, and people need to respect them. But but like you said, I mean, like that situation in society in society today could have gone that other way very quickly if it was anybody else, because they got offended, so now now you're you know, okay, so you got offended by that. So say somebody say you got offended by that. Now he's gonna be thinking, Well, I want what what can I do to get back at you? Yeah, and that's where the whole vengeance revenge starts kicking in, and it just starts consuming and consuming and eating away at you, and just then once it consumes you so much and eats away at you so much, whether you know it or not, it's reflecting on the people, other people that are in your circle. You're you're sprinkling it on them here and there, and then you're sprinkling on the next person, and the next person, and it just keeps on going down the line until eventually eventually you become so toxic that people want nothing to do with you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, and I've been there too. Don't get me wrong. I like you know, I always say I've been blessed enough to live many lives, and I was a shit bag in a lot of them. I I I know the fucking symptoms. I've had to beat, I've had to fucking coach myself out of the shit. I understand the symptoms. I understand this is why I have such a fucking this is why you know what? I just saw a line on some dumb shit that my wife watches. So I don't watch TV, but she does. And it's it's primarily, well, she doesn't watch TV, it's background noise for her, but she has all these stupid fucking dramas on. Like women do. It's not a you know, it's nothing to offend to offend her, it's just stupid fucking dramas. Um, but there's somebody said something, and it was like, you know, like I it's I forgot what she said exactly, but it was like, it's it's not that I don't respect you, it's or it's not that I can't respect your your outlook, it's that I can't wrap my head around how you don't see things my way. And that really is mine, and that that that is a fault in many, many times, but uh uh uh a pro in most other occasions. Because if I can completely understand why the stupid people are fucking stupid, that makes me fucking stupid, you know. When I can't understand how fucking stupid you're being or why, I feel good about that. You know, like I'm I feel like I'm still on that mental level of progress rather than regress. I'm not I'm not falling backwards into this fucking hellhole. I'm going forwards. And the farther you go forward, the less the less stupidity makes sense, you know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense, actually. And uh I would have to s I would have to agree with that because I I when I don't understand like why they're the way they're doing why they're doing it, it's like okay, gives me something to think about, you know what I mean? But if it's like if I just start agreeing with it, it's like I just I I kind of feel like I'm I'm on that level with them. Yeah, and I don't like that. Yeah, it's just not it's not a good feeling.
SPEAKER_02No, and it's not that I hate you for thinking what you think, it's that's I just don't understand why you think that or how you could think that, or why you started thinking that in the first place, or why you're so fucking married to that idea that you won't start thinking a different way. Like it's it's just the way the just the way it is, you know. So certain people work different, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, some people are just wired differently than others, and I like to think that I'm you know, me personally, I'm I'm wired a hell of a lot differently than like I would have to say, probably at least about 80% of society. Yeah, yeah, and I'm proud of that because you know, when you come at me with something like that, you know, and I have to think about okay, okay, why are you being like this? It to me, like you, it makes me feel better because it's like, okay, now why trying to figure out that problem and why, why, why, why, instead of you know, the latter effect, and then just like you not getting anything from it, it just makes more sense.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it doesn't, yeah, it's you know, and but it again, yeah, it circles back to society en masse and their fucking the way they view things, the way they think about things, and the way they especially view themselves, you know. Everybody wants to be the most unique snowflake on the fucking face of the planet, but half of these motherfuckers are raindrops, not snowflakes, and they just don't get it.
SPEAKER_01But you know, so when you what does Tom McDonald say about snowflakes? Uh oh, I forgot.
SPEAKER_02I was I haven't listened to a Tom McDonald in a while. It kind of became derivative after a minute. Like it was just like it sounds like he was just rehashing the same shit over and over again.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, a lot of his stuff is just rehashing everything over and over and over again. Um, but there's this what just one phrase, snowflakes drop, something like that, whatever. But it was it was actually kind of I don't know, it was kind of a funny lyric in my mind. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, he's had some great, he's a very talented dude, and he's a skilled artist, and and and I love a lot of his shit, but you know, I just haven't listened to it in a while. I've been more on uh on a you know bee gees kind of thing. Yeah, I'm just playing.
SPEAKER_01Ladies and gentlemen, you just heard it here today firsthand on the 100th episode that Cliff listens to the Bee Gees.
SPEAKER_02I like the BGs, I like all music actually, except like um I'm not into to talentless bullshit like Young Dolph and all that shit. Like, you know, like I I like some of the beats, you know, like I dude. There's a couple of big fucking names that love that shit, and you know, I I just I don't like the fucking I don't I don't I don't even think it's music. Like I just you're you're you you you put three different bass lines to a fucking song that is that or to a group of lyrics that doesn't make a song, doesn't rhyme, doesn't it trash.
SPEAKER_01Now, have you ever told the audience one your your um closet favorite?
SPEAKER_02Oh Taylor Swift, I love Taylor Swift. But I like her, I but but you know what? Here's the thing it's not her music, it's her, it's it's the fact that she's she's let me reframe this because people are already turning off uh or laughing. But I I look at it more of a business sense, an ethical sense, a human sense, right? Everybody bitches about Hollywood. Oh, these motherfuckers only got famous because they had a sex tape or a scandal or they paid off politicians or they did this and she's the only motherfucker that made it without doing any of it. So I appreciate the fuck out of that. She set a new standard for Hollywood that I think is a good fucking standard. Like, how about we get popularity based on merit again? How about it? I don't know, you know.
SPEAKER_01And I'll be honest with you, we talked about this before the show, folks.
SPEAKER_02So putting me on the spot.
SPEAKER_01I had to put him on the spot, but happy hundredth, folks. Yeah, but I will say this the fact of what you just what you said about her changed my mind on the possibility of who she is, yeah. Like as a person, yeah, because everything that you told me is like, well, that's damn smart.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and she was a childhood celebrity. And how many fucking child celebrities do you know that that didn't grow up and turn into fucking Corey Ham or fucking, you know, or or Corey Feldman, you know, and just be fucked up. I mean, Corey Feldman does great shit for the kids. I guarantee I like I give him that. But the dude is a terrible fucking musician, he's a fucking whack job from fucking front to back. Every now and then he comes back down to earth and he sounds normal, but bro.
SPEAKER_01I honestly think he thinks he's Michael Jackson.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I do. I kind of think it's almost a sad to a point, but it it is I get it, but I understand. So I do provide him some grace, and he was a great fucking child actor. Like he was in one of my favorite movies of all time, Stand By Me, and he played that role very, very well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I could see you like in that movie.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I love that movie.
SPEAKER_01That's a great movie.
SPEAKER_02I love that movie. That was a great movie.
SPEAKER_01I liked him in I liked him in Goonies.
SPEAKER_02Goonies is a fantastic movie as well. I love Goonies.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, as you can see by you know, usually sometimes when you see me, I own multiple Goonie shirts, by the way. Well, you played sloth, so I mean I did. I did. I was sloth, I made a lot of money while doing it. I mean, I got my head fixed, obviously. You can see. Like the toxic adventures and shit. Yeah, I mean, my eyes are still a little fucked up, but I mean, hey, that's part of life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's um, but uh, you know, when it comes to Taylor Swift, I I like her from a from you know, an anti anti-celebrity celebrity kind of angle. Um, and and I like the way she treats her fucking crews. Like she gives all of her fucking stage hands and builders or whatever the fuck they're called, gives them massive, I mean$20,000,$30,000,$50,000 bonuses. Bands get the bandmates get fucking$200, some thousand dollar bonuses. Like she takes care of her fucking people. Like she really fucking does. And I think she's only fucking, I think the reasons that that everybody fucking hates Taylor Swift is, you know, is is uh because they're not Taylor Swift, of course. She's a fucking billionaire, and they they're not a billionaire, so they're gonna hate her for it. And then uh, you know, it's like Nickelback. Like at some point it became cool to hate Nickelback because Nickelback is Nickelback, and now and that's that kind of that that mentality transitioned on a Taylor Swift. And we can get into a whole episode about Taylor Swift. I'm sure. If you like Taylor Swift, you don't you like Taylor Swift. If you don't, you don't. I don't personally give a fuck. I don't need revenge on you if you you don't see eye to eye with me on this situation, and well, but I guess we should touch on the fucking private plane. I just don't like the fact that she's so she flies a private plane by talking about you know, while talking about fixing the climate. Yeah, well, you know, we're all bitching about data centers while we're using AI, aren't we? So fuck off.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, we're we're bitching about, yeah. No, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Everybody's on Chat GPT figuring out how they can bitch about the newest, latest data centers that's getting put in. Like what the fuck is happening?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. That that that aspect, and you're right, we can do a complete episode on that alone. Yeah. Just the hypocrisy with that. And actually, we could probably do a couple episodes. Let's be honest. Because that that's uh that's a that's a very that can be a very long one. And I we we don't do Joe Rogan style stuff here. Oh, we can.
SPEAKER_02I'm I suppose we could. I'll sit, but yeah. Long form is good, you know, but you know, you know, whatever. But it, you know, that that that this all fucking, you know, that what you just said, all the hypocrisy, I mean, again, plays into fucking society, plays into how every everybody, every one of us is a fucking hypocrite on one level or another, but we want to forget about that when we can when we want to talk about the hypocrisy in others, you know, and then when those other ones to swing this back around, when those other motherfuckers that you start calling a hypocrite call you a hypocrite, most motherfuckers get all angry, don't you? Don't be honest with yourself. If you're listening or watching right now, just be really honest. If some, you know, at some point in your life, somebody has called you a hypocrite and you got fucking mad about it, didn't you? You wanted revenge on that motherfucker in that moment, didn't you? You might have calmed down later and you might have you might have, you know, got got out of the anger, got out of that fucking spiteful action, you know, but you got mad in the moment, and that's where people fuck this up. Everybody gets mad in the moment instead of asking if it's true. You know? Anytime tells me shit I don't want to hear, I ask first thing I ask, is it true? And if it's true, and I ask myself, if it's true, you know, and and if it is, I can't get mad. I can't, I got you, I you don't deserve revenge for telling me something I needed to know about myself.
SPEAKER_01Right. Well, that takes a lot of people to be able to drop the ego, though, too. I mean, there's a lot of different facets to this whole thing. I mean, you can tell somebody, you know, something that's wrong with them, and they're not gonna want to, even though it 100% is, and they want to acknowledge that it is, they just can't drop their ego. And because they can't drop their ego, that's when they're gonna be start thinking in the lines of, well, I I need to get this motherfucker back. I need to do something to this motherfucker because he made me feel this way, he's gonna fucking feel a hundred times worse than I'm feeling right now. Yeah, and that's just the perpetual mindset of a lot of people in society now. It does it you gotta drop that ego so you don't get to that point.
SPEAKER_02Well, and then and and having the fucking ego is what fucks everything up. That's what makes you believe that you're you're you're deserving of gaining, you know, getting revenge on somebody when you're absolutely fucking not. If you can drop the fucking ego, the words don't hurt. You know, we can go back to that fucking dick bag that I work with, you know. He fucking got in my face over a word. I I literally told him in front of the boss. I was like, how fucking weak minded are you where a word fucks up your whole world? I mean, we've got entire communities of people out here that that happens with. If we could just get past the words that you know, put you could put away your ego, we could get past the words. Words don't fucking matter. Like people calling, if people want to fucking tell, walk up to me and call me a fucking hard R or call me a Jew or call me whatever the fuck they want to call. I don't give a fuck. Like I really don't give a fuck because A, first and foremost, for everybody listening, watching, consider the source. If fucking somebody's gonna sit here and shit talk you, they obviously have nothing better going on in their life than to sit here and shit talk you. Maybe you need to you know get back to what you got going on in your life and let this dude just be a dickbag for the rest of his.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, and I would agree. And one thing I would have to say, I mean, if everybody could actually experience an ego death, yeah, society would be a a hundred, a thousand times better.
SPEAKER_02But most people won't ever hit rock bottom, and if they do hit rock bottom, they don't want to admit it to themselves or anybody else, so they never gain the lessons from being at rock bottom. The best lessons you'll ever learn about you come from being on rock bottom. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's other ways.
SPEAKER_01Let's be honest, though, there's other ways to have ego deaths, and that's through plant medicine. You know, we've we we've had that one when we had Tom on the show when we were talking about stuff like that. There's but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02If if people would Tom Hatsis, he's talking about Tom Hatsis. If you don't follow him, it's H A T S I S. You definitely want to follow our boy fucking Tom. Yeah, follow Tom.
SPEAKER_01But I mean that is another way for people to have an ego death. And I believe if everybody had some form of an ego death in some way, shape, or form, whether it's hitting rock bottom or going to seek plant medicine, society as we see it a thousand times better.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, it's well, I mean, dude, I I grew up this way, and I'm and I'm sure you did, because you're not that much older than me. Realistically, we fuck around, but you're really not that much older than me. No. Um, you probably grew up told it being told that you were unique, you were special, and you were, you know, you the world needed you be to be you and this and that because you're so wonderful, you're so great, you're so ordinary, you know, in uh uh not average, you're so all this great by the teachers and shit, right? And that's what bred all of this. Okay, well, you probably went to fucking McHenry schools, didn't you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I did. I never I no yeah, so you just got over by all the fucking gym teachers. So I I've I've gone, I've had teachers like, why can't you be more like your sister?
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, I explode.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but explode.
SPEAKER_02But most people, most people, you know, they they we all grew up fucking being told that we're super special and we're perfect the way we are, and blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. Well, this is what society looks like when you make everybody think they're fucking special. When you make everybody think that they're as deserving of respect as everybody that's actually done shit, then you're gonna get a society like this where you can't look at somebody, you can't pass somebody on the road, you can't walk by somebody, you can't do anything without having so quote unquote disrespected somebody.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah. No, I could I could definitely see what you're saying. I mean, I don't back when I was in school, I mean, I know what you're what, 43? Yeah. I'm 50, so we got seven years. Yeah, I'll be 51. So yeah, we got seven years on each other. But I know when I was in school, they didn't really go around saying that you're special or anything like that. And I think what and I would have to agree with what you're saying, like with the teacher saying, Oh, you're special, you're this, you're that, and you don't participation trophies for just it has created a weak society. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because when I was going when I was growing up, you know, like we had to take care of it. I mean, Gen X, we had to take care of ourselves. Like, both parents worked, we would have to be home when the light, streetlights came on, all that shit. Parents would kick us out of the fucking house, especially during the summer and all that. So we didn't have you know, for me, I didn't have those things. So it's like you you had to learn as you went. And fuck, man. Gen X, we survived everything. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, I've supposedly I'm older millennial now. I was Gen X up until like a decade ago. Then they redid the map, and uh you're still Gen X. Yeah, I'm still fucking Gen X. Go fuck yourselves with this older millennial bullshit, you know. And not to mention, but every time I fucking hear older millennial, I always think of that fucking alcoholic dickbag on Instagram that has way too many opinions and not enough information.
SPEAKER_01But this is what I'm talking about. You know, this is what we're talking about, you know, it's stuff like this, you know. Just like, you know, great job. Yeah, you're just wonderful. Everybody wants you, everybody needs you, everybody. No, yeah, you look what what you've just created. You've you've literally stripped masculinity to almost nothing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, I like the Drew Carey sort of thought, you know, school of thought. Stop telling everybody, all these fucking kids they're special. Because when they grow up and they find out they're not, they're gonna hate you for it.
SPEAKER_01They're gonna resent you, they're gonna Hill, I thought I was special. I thought you know, but that's the sense of entitlement, and it comes with jobs and it comes with everything. Like, you're not qualified to do something, but you have this sense of entitlement because you were told growing up that you're so entitled, that you're so this and that, and the other when it you didn't even try. The parents they don't instill those things, like you know, for for us growing up, it wasn't like our parents bought us our first car, our parents didn't pay for car insurance, our parents didn't pay for this. We had to understand the meaning of a dollar. So we we went out, you know, we wanted a fucking car when we turned 16. Guess what? We got a job, or we got a we were able to work. I think I was able to start working when I was 15. Work permit, yeah. With work permit. So at the age of 15, and even even earlier, because you could be a bus boy or something like that at some of these like local bars or something like that. So, even younger than that, newspaper routes, mowing lawns, whatever, I had to go out there and I was making money. So I learned the value and and what a dollar fucking means. Right. But they took that from these kids.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01They took it off. Yeah, they just said the world owes it to you. Yeah, and then once they don't get it, they get mad, and then they want to know a way that they can hurt the person that they didn't get it from.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01Whether it's a qu whether it's a company, oh and don't think it doesn't happen to companies. Like, say like you go to Walmart, you go for you know, these kids go for a job at Walmart, they get you know, no, you can't get the job, and then you know damn well their revenge tactic is to go on and leave bad reviews for companies, yeah. You know, stuff like that. It doesn't necessarily mean like your revenge doesn't mean like you're going to want to harm them physically, but you're gonna do everything you can to ruin them, to ruin them, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and you know, and and that's a you know, one of the important things about revenge is if you're gonna get revenge. So I I even made a video not too long ago where I said, um, you know, everybody wants to fucking have their debts paid. Like a, you know, if you owe somebody money, they'll come to you. You you need to pay me my fucking money. Yeah, you owe them time, you need to pay me my fucking time. You owe them some sort of materials, you need to give me my fucking materials, you need to pay me. But when I owe you revenge, all of a sudden I become the asshole that's when I pay my debt. And I think we need to break into that because you know what? Revenge is a good thing sometimes, but it's gotta be done correctly. It's gotta be done most number one, number one, proportionately. This is the problem that we see in society is we'll take the gangs, right? Fucking dickbag ass stupid motherfuckers live on the west side of the street, and dick bag stupid motherfuckers live on the fucking east side of the street, and they hate each other because they live on different sides of the street. So one will fucking shoot one, right? And then that one has to go shoot two. And then because two of them died over here, now we got to go shoot three. You know what? Eye for an eye, one for one. If this dude shoots one of yours, you shoot one of his, and then it has to be done. But instead, it just always creates a cycle of revenge. And that's where the biggest problem for me in my world, in my brain, that's the biggest problem with revenge nowadays. It's not people getting it. It's not people wanting it. You should get your revenge. You should pay your fucking debts. And if that debt is revenge, pay that motherfucker. But make it proportionate and then make it stop. You know, if somebody fucks you over, fuck them over in the same fucking way, maybe a little bit extra just to prove the fucking point. But you know what? If somebody steals your car, you don't have to murder their entire family and then get and then stew on it for a little while and then go murder more of their friends. Like it people take it so fucking wildly disproportionate to the fucking to the original infraction that it creates cycles of fucking violence that never end.
SPEAKER_01Well, and that's what we see in cities and like you know, especially Democrat-run cities. I mean, let's be honest. I mean, Republican cities, whatever too, but that's why we see what we see is because exactly that. You know, they killed one, we killed two. They killed two, we killed three, or they double it. You know, it's like you gotta stop doing that. You know, it's like if you need your revenge on somebody, like you said, do it to the standard or the equivalent of what they did to you, but a little bit more. There's no sense of going back and stewing on it and trying to one up or two up or three up that. You know, that's just gonna continue that that cycle, and it's that's not good. It really isn't.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, it's it's not good. And you know what? Here's the other thing about revenge. People like to confuse revenge and vengeance. Vengeance is a proportionate, you know, like I owe you this, I'm gonna give you, I'm gonna I'm gonna pay. Revenge, dude. Revenge really it really just does come from ego. Because if you owe somebody vengeance, if somebody took one of yours, that's vengeance. Like, I'm going to avenge the death of my mother to the fucking guy that murdered it. In fact, I just saw a video. Two black guys in court, um, not part of the, you know, their mother got got shot or got killed somehow by this other black dude and and the defendant. They beat the fuck out of that dude in the courtroom and tried to kill him. That's vengeance. That is 100% fucking owed. And if you ask me, it's not quite fucking fully paid. Until that motherfucker's heart stops, or he wishes his heart stops, their debt is still on the table. They still owe him, you know, and he still owes them. But, you know, these motherfuckers are like, oh, you know, you you like how many videos do you see where a kid, just an innocent kid, is riding a dirt bike up and down the fucking road, and then somebody will fucking slap him, literally, an adult will slap him off of his bike. Or I just saw a video, some fucking whack job broad in a fucking silver Ford Focus was up on the sidewalk chasing a fucking kid, a child riding the fucking bike. And she said it he deserved it for bothering her. On what fucking planet is a kid riding a fucking bike down a fucking street, bothering anybody to the point where you should have to run them over and end their life. She didn't get him. Was a happy ending.
SPEAKER_01She didn't get him, but that's that is going way too far.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but that's how people do it. That's how people you you walk into the gas station, you bump into somebody, next thing you know, you got a gun in your fucking face. Yeah. What the fuck happened? I didn't run in and freight train you on purpose. I didn't see you. I fucking shoulder, I brushed up against your shoulder, and now you got a gun in my face. You will screaming, you will respect me. Fuck you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, actually, it's more like the other way around. It's like, how am I gonna have respect for you when you just did that? Right. Yeah, there will never be any respect. And now what happens with that is now the person that has a gun pointed in their face because of some bullshit that could have been handled with you know common courtesy, like, hey man, sorry, I didn't I saw I didn't see you there. My bad, you okay? And left it at that. Instead, you pull a gun on me. Now that person is gonna want revenge on this person, or if the guy with the gun with in the person's face kills that person, now that family is gonna want revenge on them. Right. So here we are, just perpetually still going.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But now let's talk about let's talk about the other important end of of revenge, and that is the fucking prison that it puts you in. If you're the dude that wants revenge, don't allow yourself to become this person living in a fucking mental prison where you're just chained to the idea of getting that motherfucker back. Because I see it all the time, and I'm sure you do. I'm sure we've seen it all over the course. Y'all, you all listening and watching have seen it throughout the course of your lives, where you fucking see, you know, you see these motherfuckers that they want to get this motherfucker back so bad, they live in it. That's all they do is they live in it. They become fucking, what's that fucking uh you know that Ace Ventura movie, whereas uh, you know, Feinstein is whatever, and you know, remember the kicker? It was the ace ventura pet detective and the football player, and he was killing people or some shit. You know, it's Finkelstein. Whatever the fuck, yeah. They live in it, and you become you be you turn your own life and your own mind into your own prison. You don't want to do that either, you know? And and and you brought up karma before the show. And I'll be honest with you guys, I don't know, I don't think that I don't always I don't always like to rely on karma. I know a lot of people do. Um, but the fact is is that karma doesn't always work. You know, how many fucking absolute assholes do you guys know in your life that are that are listening to this? How many absolute fucking assholes do you know in your life that are still winning? Like you've known them. Uh they're they're winning despite being a total piece of shit, and they're still winning despite being a total piece of shit. Maybe it'll come later, but man, 30, 20, 30, 40 fucking years of of solid winning, being a total piece of shit, you really want to see karma take some fucking action in.
SPEAKER_01Well, actually, you know what? Let me touch on that karma thing. Because now that I'm sitting here thinking about it, you know, because uh a few years back for myself, I lived inside my head with vengeance and revenge, and it consumed me so much over a course of some time. But now that I'm actually thinking about it, you know, a lot of the people that I wanted to get my revenge on, karma actually did come and bite him in the ass in some form, some way, shape, or form. It could be as small and you don't even think about it at the time, but then it could be so big, like what just happened recently, which I'm not gonna get into because I'm not gonna be that big of a dick, but the the one motherfucker got his karma, you know, and well deserved. And as far as I'm concerned, the karma that he received was justified in my book, and that makes my that revenge factor for me null and void now. You know, because that karma was for me, that karma, you know, it it was more than what he did to me, but he learned a valuable lesson, you know. And one thing that I take with being Norse pagan is the whole oath. You you have an oath with somebody, you keep that oath, and oathbreakers tend to um uh get it it comes back to them a hundredfold most of the time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But and and see, that's and that's a that's a hard one with karma because like when karma karma affects other people, I don't know if it's karma anymore. Like I don't know what that is, but it seems like I want karma to be a direct effect kind of situation. Like if somebody fucks me over, I want them to get fucked over. I don't need the people around them to get fucked over. You know, I just I want them to get fucked over. Now, however, it depends on you know how bad it was that I could I could very easily do the fucking you know, sometimes mental gymnastics are are are more of a game of hopscots real quick to get there, right? You know what I mean? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Like I get I get so no but you don't but you know what honestly I mean it it for me for my situation you know I was when I heard about it I was just like well now he knows now he knows and that that was good enough for me you know it it sucks that it directly affected others that were in his family, but when I have that revenge, that vengeance side of me, I want to wipe out bloodlines. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So I want to staple eyelids to foreheads and what make you watch me erase your bloodline.
SPEAKER_01You can just imagine, folks, the kind of conversations we had before the show.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Yeah, as as as many fucking rules and and regulations and lines that we've crossed, there's certain ones that still have to stay at profit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what you've heard today is pretty much all we can tell.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, I mean that's that's really it, guys. You don't get consumed by your own need for revenge, you know, because here's the other fucking thing. If you really want to piss, so most of the time you get into a situation with somebody and vengeance or revenge will gonna, well, I should say revenge comes up. Um, you're probably neither one of you are doing a whole lot, right? Right. So if you really, really, really, and I know you're gonna, this is gonna sound cliche, it's gonna you because you've heard it before, but if you really, really want to fucking stick it to somebody, become successful. Pull up to their fucking, pull up to their fucking cardboard box in your Maserati. You know, ah, fuck Maserati. I don't like my unless it's an MC20, I'm not fucking interested. Maserati's are built with the fucking hardware drawer and they're pieces of shit. Uh pull up in an Aston Martin, pull up in a fucking in a Pagani, Zonda, you know, or a fucking Waira or a fucking Konigseg. Pull up in one of those. Pull up in a Lamborghini and to his cardboard box that he's still living in 20 fucking years later, and just laugh at him and be like, well, yeah, I guess one of us is, you know, did something. I guess my revenge is working out for me. Because he's gonna look at you and then just the fact that you're winning is gonna eat that motherfucker alive.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, it's gonna, yeah, that's gonna twist his mind and just everything. Yeah. And yeah, that's and that's the satisfaction. That's all the satisfaction that you need. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes that's it. That's all you need.
SPEAKER_02Most of the most of my revenge comes from living in people's heads rent-free. Like that's really, I mean, I'll be honest with you. I don't have to take revenge on motherfuckers because I just continue doing me, and it seems to be starting to work now after 43 fucking years on this planet. It seems to be starting to fucking work now, and it just eats people the fuck alive. And every now and then, like I, you know, this is why I have my still have my personal Facebook post, you know, page. Every now and then I go on that page because that's all the people that wanted to see me fail, and I let them know that I'm not failing, and I let them know that I'm winning harder than they are. Because, you know, why not? That's that's my revenge. Best revenge is is is success, is the biggest fuck you of all times.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because nine times out of ten, the people that that are talking that kind of shit aren't they? They're not going anywhere. They're they're basically living in their mom and dad's basement or a basement somewhere or having five roommates because they can't, they're not going anywhere in life.
SPEAKER_02Like the one dude says, Don't forget where you, you know, you forgot where you came from. Absolutely fucking lutely not. I have not forgotten where I came from, and that's exactly where the fuck why the fuck I'm going where I'm going. Exactly. Because I haven't forgotten. You have forgotten where you came from. You fucking all you motherfuckers out. Let me just address this real quick. All you motherfuckers out here that say, Don't forget where you came from. Do you know you forgot where you came from, anything like that. You're saying that as a person that is still where you came from. You are the fucking person that forgot where you came from. You're the motherfucker that forgot how miserable that life is. You're the motherfucker that forgot how fucking suck, how bad it sucks to be broke, how much it sucks to have a car that won't get you to and from work reliably, how much it sucks to not even have a fucking job, how much it sucks to not have a family, how much it sucks to have nobody in your corner. Y'all motherfuckers forgot. And you're trying to get everybody else to forget. You're just disguising it with fucking under this other fucking this mask that you put on it as of of loyalty and honor. It's not honorable to not progress. It's not honorable to stay where the fuck you were born that made you fucking miserable. It's not. Y'all motherfuckers forgot, they didn't forget. All these successful motherfuckers out here, they didn't forget where they came from. They remembered every single fucking day of their life, and that's why they're not there now.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. I was I was gonna actually say that, and I couldn't have said it any better than that. You know, because I, for me personally, every day I I remember where I came from, my struggle to get to where I'm at, and I never forget that. And that's why I keep going and doing things that I need to be doing, and going places and creating this uh what I'm creating. And it's never gonna stop.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I'm not gonna fucking stop until the fucking day I die, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking walk into the fucking the great hall and be like, let's get to work, boys.
SPEAKER_01Just remember though, the day if if I die before you, I'm gonna be haunting your ass. Yeah, I'm not gonna haunt your ass. I'm gonna go straight to Valhalla. I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna go to Valhalla, but I'm gonna come back.
SPEAKER_02Oh, can we do a transport thing? Can we like come back when we want to? Because I'm all about that. If I could sleep in Valhalla and then just hit Earth Realm real quick to fuck with some people and then hit back, head back to the fucking to the hall. I'm all about it.
SPEAKER_01You just gotta remember to end up in Valhalla, you gotta do something before you die. So start that fight with that nurse. Or is she gonna end up with hell? Start that fight with the nurse. Throw something. My whole life has been a fucking battle. I mean, by by rights, that should literally you know get us into Valhalla. But just to be on the safe side, don't forget to start that fight.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna end it on that. Don't forget to start that fight. Um, that is not advice, it's not a recommendation, it's a joke, it's funny. If you happen to do it, that's not on us.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't mean you're gonna make it to Valhalla. Just yeah, it's not on us. We don't condone violence here.
SPEAKER_02Well, and it's and it's not it's not it's not a gloriful battle if you're fighting a nurse either.
SPEAKER_01So no, it's not, but it could be a guy. You never know.
SPEAKER_02He's a tough guy, and I was crippled. Uh, you know, what can I say?
SPEAKER_01I just needed my ticket.
SPEAKER_02So let's wrap this shit up. Um thank you guys for fucking hanging out and listening to us talk and and you know, following, following along with us, listening to our guests and following them and engaging with us. The, you know, this is for all you people, I you know, I got I do got to address this one thing. For all you people new to podcasting, um, it's not gonna happen the way you think. It's probably gonna happen like the like it happened when you posted your first reel on Instagram. It went big, you know, you got three, six, seven thousand fucking views, and then after the next couple of weeks you tone down and you're you're back into the 30s or 40s, um, sub 100 views. Um, so don't get excited if you're gonna get a fucking you're gonna you got a podcast going and you put your first episode out there and it hits really big. Don't get too fucking excited, don't get too complacent, keep working because it's gonna come back down. Um, that's just the way this thing works. Um, uh, you know, because I talk to these motherfuckers all the time, and they're all like, oh, I I had a podcast before, and I I used to get, you know, between 10 and 20,000 downloads per episode. I'm like, oh, cool. How many up how many episodes did you have? I had 30. Well, you didn't, you didn't have that kind of numbers then. I'm sorry. You just didn't know. Not unless you had every single celebrity on earth fucking sharing your shit. You didn't have those numbers. So my advice to you people that are doing that, that you're you're you're those people, you know, and you're coming back or you're fucking, you know, you're still plugging along. Stop telling everybody you're getting millions of fucking downloads. We don't buy it. We understand, especially the ones that do it, we understand that you're a lion's hack of shit, and that's crushing your fucking audience. That's crushing your fucking growth. So don't do that. Um, and don't don't even bother getting into podcasting unless you're in it for the long haul. Unless you're not unless you decide you're gonna do this for 10 fucking years, don't even start. Because hitting uh hitting episode 100 is hard. Like I know Joe Rogan's on episode 3,000 and fucking yada yada yada. All these motherfuckers out there have been doing it for years, it's hard. They'll say the same thing. Hitting the hundredth episode is hard. In fact, it's so hard that I I listened to a fucking an episode of Real AF. That's Andy for one of Andy Frisella's shows, and it was a while back. I mean, a fucking couple probably two years ago. Um, and he's like, he's like, I'm I'm I you know, he's like, I will do your podcast, but I'm not doing your fucking podcast unless you have at least 100 fucking episodes. Because if you have a hundred episodes, that proves that you're willing to do the fucking work. So 100 is the benchmark. All you motherfuckers out here with 10 episodes bragging about how fucking easy it is, show me how to tell me how easy it is to episode 100. Tell me how easy it is when you've got fucking three shows this weekend and everybody's at a fucking campground barbecue and you can't go because you've got to produce shows. Or tell me how fucking hard it is when you do go and then you just decide to, I'm just not gonna have shows this week because I wanted to go have fun. We don't do that shit. We show up all the fucking time. The only reason that we didn't have a guest, truly, I'll be honest with you, the only fucking reason we didn't have a guest this weekend is because my voice has been fucked up for a week. My voice has been fucked up for several fucking days. Today is the first day that I actually felt like I had my normal voice back, 80%, 85%, you know. So that's why, and and I I I feel it's disrespectful, and I feel it's a it's a waste of opportunity to have guests on the show if my voice is not cooperating. It's just we can't engage the way we need to engage. So that's the only reason why we don't have a fucking guest guest episode this week.
SPEAKER_01So and I can totally I totally understand that. You know, yeah. I mean that just Yeah. Like you were saying, man, I I mean I had you know, like I haven't done the hammer drops in a while, but I mean I think I was over I know I was over a hundred episodes. But I also started back in 2020, 2019 with mine. So it's like, you know, that's a lot of time. You know, it takes time. It takes a lot of patience, a lot of sacrifice, you know, but you know, if you don't have that hundred episodes, then you just kind of just need to keep it quiet and no, you're not getting all these thousands of views. I mean, I'm sorry. Or downloads.
SPEAKER_02I got 12 million downloads. No, you fucking didn't. I actually heard somebody tell me that. I'm like, how the fuck did you get fucking 12 million downloads on this episode, but Rogan doesn't even get 12 million episodes of uh uh uh 12 million downloads on an episode? How the fuck does that happen? You lying saga shit. Right.
SPEAKER_01Uh yeah, that doesn't make sense. No, yeah, just stop lying.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, stop lying, stop living in the prison that uh that you create for yourself over revenge. Just go pay your fucking debts, even if that debt is revenge. Go get it, go get it over with. Making it, make it proportional, you know, proportionate to the fucking original infraction so that you don't find yourself getting retaliation because you know, disproportionate revenge requires retaliation. Retaliation requires revenge, cycle time. Fuck all of that. Just get it out, get it done, or move the fuck on and become this most successful motherfucker that dude's ever fucking known, and then go rub it in his face like a dog that just pissed on the floor. Exactly. Let them know where they can find you, Dave.
SPEAKER_01All right, you know what? Before I get into where they can find me, I just want to say one thing. It's a hundredth episode. I've been with Savage, I've been I've had the honor to be with your co-host now for five months, full time since January. And I wanted to just take a moment on the 100th episode. Thank you. Thank the fans, thank the followers for everything. And I'm looking forward to the next hundred.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah. Yeah. I fucking I like being I like you being here, man. Um, you know, it's it, you know, and especially with uh, you know, the the shows that I've done pre-Savagely Loud, you know, uh, and then the the trajectory or the path that Savagely Loud has has had to operate on. Um again, I had that snivelling, whining piece of shit, Mikey Wold as my original co-host, um, who I fucking, I for months I told him I was like, dude, you don't want to do this, you don't want to do this, because the fucking the moment your fucking company fucking sees it, they're gonna hate it. And and he's no no no no no no no no no. And then all of a sudden, fucking the fucking the very first time his company looked at his looked at him sideways, he fucking turned into a puddle of shit on the floor and quit. And then fucking and his fucking absolute pile of shit fucking wife. Of course, this is all my opinion. This is this I'm not stating factually that she's a pile of shit just because she doesn't leave the fucking house ever since her mom died, because you know, outside is scary. Um then she got fucking, she came after me and my wife, and um, yeah, fuck them. And I mean the the interim between after, you know, between him and you, you know, I was doing it alone. It was working out pretty well, but I was kind of getting to the point where, you know, it's it's always better to have somebody to bounce some shit off of, you know, have somebody with a different point of view or a little different perspective, and you actually know how to fucking talk. Um, that's which is another thing Mikey didn't fucking do. He just went, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, uh, yeah, uh, you know, so you actually talk, you're well fucking spoken, you're you're informed as and you know as to what the happenings of the world. You're totally a fucking welcome edition. And uh yeah, I'm looking forward to the next hundred or next thousand. Next year. Let's just fucking keep on rolling. Um and don't forget, guys, we've got some big shit coming up. Uh we are we are working and currently in the process of building this motherfucker, um, this new show called Misfits of Myth. It's going to be myself and Big Dave. It's going to be the real Huckleberry, Justin Stoll. You'll know him, and you can find him on Facebook and Instagram. He's got millions and millions of followers. Um, great friend of ours, wonderful human being. Uh, we've got conservative ant, who is also going to be involved in the show. Again, millions of followers, wonderful fucking dude, heart of gold. We've got Troy Lilly, the Motley Croc show. Uh he's got fucking, I mean, he's got so many fucking fans that just like everybody loves Troy because he has that old anthrax feel to him, you know. Like he's got that old punker feel to him, that old biker feel to him. He's fucking awesome. I love that motherfucker to death. I love all these dudes. And we've got Bruce Calero. Uh, Bruce Calero owns Perfect Sports out of Canada, so a multi-million dollar company. He owns, he runs the Be Great podcast, which you should definitely check out. I have been on that podcast as a guest. Um, he's a fucking amazing human being, a very, very accomplished man, um, and just solid. Every one of these dudes is just fucking solid as a rock. But we're coming out, we're we're working together, we're coming out with this new show called Misfits and Myth. And um, you know, we're gonna be hunting down fucking chupacabras and Bigfoots. We're gonna talk ghost stories, paranormal, we're gonna go ghost hunting, we're gonna do all this shit, but we're gonna do it the way we do it. We've got fucking demonologists and pagans like us, Norse pagans, we've got Christians, like we've got gay dude, we've got fucking straight dude, we've got vulgarity, we've got politically correct. We are the fucking misfits of myth. All together, when you put us together, we literally are the biggest group of fucking misfits. But there's such a love that we share between one another that it just bleeds through into the footage, it bleeds through into the show, and the passion that, you know, and the and the leadership that that are provided on everybody's level is gonna be fucking amazing. So just stay tuned. Go follow all the Misfits of Myth pages. You'll know it. Uh, it's the only one. Uh Misfits and Myth is we're we're on Facebook and and Instagram. We're not doing anything with it yet because we're still building the show, and then uh it's gonna be fucking. I can I can promise you one thing, it's gonna be fucking huge, and you're not gonna want to miss it.
SPEAKER_01You're yeah, you're definitely not gonna want to miss this one. It's uh you know, outside of Savagely Loud, Misfits and Myth, you're gonna want to tune in. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, and you know, the greatest thing about Misfits and Myth is we have two re two rules: no religion, no politics. We are here to have a fucking good time talking about interesting shit, hunting for interesting shit, fucking with interesting shit, fucking with ghosts, fucking Bigfoots. I mean, there's there is no limits to the where to to what we're gonna fucking where we're gonna go and what we're gonna do when it comes to that realm of this world that we live in. Um, every last one of us is tired of fucking talking about religion, every last one of us is tired about talking about, tired of talking about fucking politics. This is this is actually, and that's one of the greatest things is that this is a show that will be like it's something we're all into, very much so, but we also get to use it as an escape from what we normally talk about online, and that passion again is gonna fucking just duplicate itself over and over again or replicate itself over and over again, and it's going it it just bleeds through into the into the project.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
SPEAKER_02Don't miss it, don't miss it.
SPEAKER_01Don't, don't, don't, don't.
SPEAKER_02So tell them where they can find you, Dave.
SPEAKER_01All right, guys, you can find me on social media. I'm heavily active over there on Facebook and Instagram at the hammer drops. Also, you can go to just Google, simple Google search, type in the hammer drops, and I'm gonna pop up everywhere.
SPEAKER_02And you can find me on Instagram, that's where I'm most active at Savagely Loud. Um, I am on Facebook, obviously. We'll get to that, but you know, everybody always asks me, but are you on Facebook? Yeah, it's kind of like the thing I say next. So uh you can follow me on Instagram, that's where I'm most active at Savagely Loud. Uh on that page, you're gonna find two links. One of those links is Savagely Loud Podcast Savage. Please follow and share that page. Let's blow that page up. Let's really get it moving. Um, and you and the other link you're gonna find Simple Link Tree anywhere you want to see my rants or uh hear my bullshit, you can find it there. Easy peasy. Outside of that, Facebook X and Rumble at Savagely Loud, uh, YouTube at Savagely Loud Podcast. Don't forget to subscribe, share it with your friends, and have them subscribe. Uh SavagelyLoud at gmail.com for all your guaranteed viewing of the communications. Don't forget to like, comment, and share the material. And please rate and review the show. Give us a five-star rating and a good review on Apple, iTunes, Spotify. It really will help. Now that we've got through all that, let's not forget the you know, the the way we fucking end every show. We went down in it today. We talked about vengeance and revenge and pride and mortality and ego. Let's remind ourselves that humans still exist with a little segment I like to call hopelessly human, and it starts a little bit like this, even on the hundredth episode.
SPEAKER_03People can be lero, they can be quite tough, they can get in the way, but at the end of the day, some aren't only stupid, some are hopelessly human.
SPEAKER_02All right, they sure damn are, and mostly uh this one comes from live altitude or live altitude. I don't the context of live and live always fucks me up, especially because I've had so many people mean it differently. Um, but livealtitude uh.com. It's entitled A Teacher Helps His Students Understand the Importance of Science. A teacher decides to change the way he teaches his students about science. Instead of simply teaching his students uh about science, he decides, I just read this the other day. What is happening here? Let's go into the docket here, let's go into the archives and let's find another one to read. I just yeah, happy hundredth. That's the first one, you know. All right, here's one. Uh okay, cool. Uh yeah, nope, that's another one I read. We're gonna get there. We're gonna get there. All right, here we go. Here we go. All right, this one comes from brightside.me when my neighbor moved away. When my neighbor moved away, she gave me I fucking read this one too. Damn it. I'm gonna go back to oh, this one's a good one. I do remember this one, but we're gonna read this one. Okay, this one's brightside.me. Parent got called for a heart transplant. I was up in Minnesota for work when my parent got the call for a heart transplant. Well, it went bad, and they ended up being placed into a medical coma on and on ECMO, ECMO. Um, so I had to rush back. It was a two-day drive to back to Texas, so I drove back to Oklahoma, stayed the night, and got up at 3 30 a.m. the next day and tried to rush to the hospital. I was exhausted and I stopped at the first Starbucks I saw that was open. There was only one car in front of me and one and no one pulled up behind me. So the person wasn't trying to start a quote, pay it forward line or anything. I pulled up when they let me know that the person in front of me, or and they let me know that the person in front of me paid for my coffee. I bursted into tears. It's crazy though that buying that coffee had nothing to do with the outcome of my parents' surgery or recovery. When someone bought me that coffee, I took that kind gesture as a sign that things were going to be okay. It changed my entire outlook and gave me peace to make the rest of my trip safely. They'll never know what that cup of coffee meant to me or what that act of kindness did for me that day, but I will always be grateful for that small gesture. Guys, a small gesture can change an entire fucking life. So make the small gesture. Make it happen. Make somebody's day. That's hopelessly human. That's the show. On the hundredth episode, go us, go you. Thank you guys, and we're out of the way.