EP.103 He is KING!

People scream about “respect” nonstop… right up until somebody questions their beliefs, opinions, politics, religion, or worldview. Then suddenly respect goes out the window.

In this episode, my cohost and I break down the growing hypocrisy of demanding unconditional respect while refusing to give even basic understanding in return. From internet culture to religion, politics, and everyday interactions, we dive into why so many people expect immunity from criticism while openly criticizing everyone else.

One major example? The phrase “Christ is King.” We discuss why some people publicly push religious beliefs into every conversation, yet become furious the second someone outside that faith questions it, challenges it, or simply disagrees. The conversation isn’t about attacking religion — it’s about the double standard of demanding tolerance while refusing to tolerate disagreement yourself.

We also cover:

•  Why modern discourse immediately turns hostile 
•  The difference between respect and blind obedience 
•  Why criticism is not persecution 
•  How ego and identity have become inseparable 
•  Why people want freedom of speech only when it benefits them 
•  The social media culture of “rules for thee, not for me” 

No screaming matches. No fake outrage. Just a brutally honest conversation about hypocrisy, accountability, and why mutual respect has to go both ways.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Everything you're about to hear is for entertainment purposes only. Listen, have some fun, but don't ever do, believe, or promote anything they say. They're idiots.

SPEAKER_03 0:12

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SPEAKER_02 2:23

I'm doing good, brother. How about yourself, man?

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Uh, I got uh I got no complaints, you know. I I it I really just don't like. I mean, you could you could always find something to complain about, but why?

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Yeah, exactly. Why? Why complain? I mean, besides, who's gonna fucking listen anyways, right? Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Let them know where they can find you, big Dave.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

All right, man. Y'all can find me on social media. I'm heavily active over there on uh Facebook and Instagram at the Hammer Drops. Um, you'll find a couple link tree uh a couple links in the bio. One's gonna take you to the Savage Leave Out Podcast. The other's gonna open up a little link tree that's gonna take you to all the other crevices across the internet. You can find my beautiful face in. That yeah, I'm not very beautiful. So if you're not watching, you'll know if you're watching, you yeah, you can tell.

SPEAKER_03 3:04

So but you got a good voice, so it all works, it all washes.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Uh 1-900 squirrely stub.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Squirrely stub. Oh wow, we're we're opening this up quick here. Uh, speaking of squirrestub, I saw chickens the other day, a video of an interesting chicken video. Um, if anybody knows if chickens actually have like spirally pigtail wieners, um, yeah, let me know because it seemed to have that in the video that I saw. I don't know if it's real or AI or what, but it was relatively interesting. Um, so now that we're all traumatized, let's just throw that grenade out there right now.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:43

Let's now that we're all traumatized, guys. I want to I want to hit you guys up front with with a disclaimer about this particular episode because it's gonna tickle some special spots for some really special fucking people. So if you get offended by religion andor talk about religion or religious talk or comparisons or anything like that, um, you know what? As much as I hate to tell you to turn off my show, turn this bitch off because you're probably gonna get offended. Because we have to enter the the realm of reality, right? We have to be able to talk about things and situations and circumstances, and some of those include religion. And we've got to talk about because I had a little thing happen to me last week that uh we want to break into because it's uh I think it's it's a it's a very good starting point to enter conversations about religious, um, religious uh unity, you know, like unifying people of different religions and b belief systems, but there is a hurdle that we have to get over here. And yes, unfortunately, it does involve mostly the Christian people in my world. I'm not saying that they're the only people that do this, um, but I I it's something that we need to we need to break down because, like I said, I had a situation last week. I made a video about it on my on my social media, and it sparked a lot of good conversations. Uh, it sparked a lot of hateful comments from very accepting, tolerant Christians.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

But uh they accepting intolerant?

SPEAKER_03 5:16

I mean, well, we're supposed we're supposed to say they're they're they're accepting intolerant because that's what Christianity is about. Um, it doesn't matter what the actual person themselves believes or how they act or behave with their fellow man, but the Christianity is all about acceptance and tolerance, so we'll go with that. Um, guys, like I said, this is gonna be uh it's a little bit of a sticky fucking situation, but I think if we can get through this and the smart people hang out through the show, I think you're gonna resonate. I think it's you're you're gonna be able to apply the lessons here into a lot of things in your broader life spectrum, okay? And it's gonna help you out greatly. So uh yeah, let's get into it. So last week I was on I was in the DMs with my body, and uh, we were on Instagram and we're just going back and forth. And, you know, to to set this up, this is a real friend of mine. We're not just internet pals, we're not just internet acquaintances, we're not creator friends, we're actually real friends in real life. We just so happen to be going back and forth in the DMs on Instagram. And this man that I'm friends with is very, very Christian. And at every piece of content, like literally every piece of content he does, he either says out loud, Christ is king, he puts it on a text overlay throughout the video, or he puts it in the caption that Christ is king. Now, that being said, in our conversation, it was just a fun conversation. We were throwing jabs back and forth like real men do. Um, all you motherfuckers out there that are that don't like getting jabbed by your by your buddies, you know, like your little idiosyncrasies or your shortcomings. You need to toughen the fuck up, man the fuck up, and uh, you know, march on through life with a better skull, with a better head, because you can't be getting offended by everything, especially if you're a man, because that's the way we operate. Men just we show reverence to each other by throwing digs at each other. I know it sounds counterintuitive, especially for the the female listeners and watchers, but we that's how we operate. That's how we show each other that we're there. How fucking hard can you hit me? You know what I mean? That's just how we do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah, no, exactly. I mean, uh yeah, if I look at it like this, man. If I'm not throwing a dig at you, that means I don't like you. That means I don't care about you.

SPEAKER_03 7:36

Yeah, I have a rule. I I'm I've grown up working in shops. If I don't fuck with you, I don't like you. And I've had to have that conversation with several apprentices, several coworkers, like, how come you're fucking with everybody else out here? Like, you don't like them? I was like, no, I I fuck with them because I love them. I I fuck with them because we worked together for years and we have a great relationship, this and that. Well, you don't fuck with me. Well, I don't like you. I tried to fuck with you a couple of times and you got all butthurt. And then so it's not fun for me. And I also understand that you're on a mental level that I don't want to fucking, I don't want to droop myself to to get down to where I'm just caring about everybody's feelings because nobody can take a fucking joke. It's not the way it's that's not the way I operate. Naturally, that goes over like a fucking ton of bricks or a lead balloon or a lead balloon filled with a ton of bricks.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

I I can only imagine how well that one went over. I mean, because I I've I've had that too where you know, because I you know, I work construction. I'm on a road cruise and all that stuff. So it's natural for us to fuck with each other, you know, and it's like I I actually have one guy come up to me, like, Well, you fuck with all these guys, but you never like mess with me. It's like, well, there's a reason for that.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Now get away from me.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Yeah, yeah. Very polite way, very polite way of saying you're a douchebag and you can't handle the joke. So you just well, there's a reason for that. Now, if you could please exit stage right. So, anyway, I'm going back and forth with my body and we're throwing digs, we're having a good time. And because I said, like I said, he throws Christ as king on everything. Now, I'm Norse pagan, so is Dave. Um, and we don't care. Let me let me throw this one out here, too. We do not, and I and I will speak for Dave, we do not give a shit what you believe in. As long as you're on the straight and narrow, you're not out here hurting people in the name of your religion. We don't really give a fuck what you believe in. We would, in fact, not only do we not give a fuck, we completely support you believing whatever system you need to believe in to keep you on the right path or what you believe is the right path. 100% support. It's not even that we don't give a fuck. So, but he says Christ is king all the time. So I figured it would be a funny little jab, you know, just just have some fun with it. And so I, you know, we ended the conversation. I was like, all right, dude, no problem, I'll get a hold of you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Odin is the all-father. For people that don't know anything about Norse paganism or paganism of other uh, you know, other uh uh other sects for lack of better word, denomination. There's the word I was looking for.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Um, Odin is the all father. That's what is he referred to. He's the god of wisdom and many other things, but he's basically just really, really black and gray this all the way down. Um, he's he's the god of the gods, he's the guy that they look to for when the gods need fucking advice. So I said, and he's referred to as the all-father. So I was like, all right, and yeah, and Odin is the all-father. And he messages back, he's like, Why would you say that to me? And mind you, we're in the DMs, text can be dry. So I was just like, you know, I don't know how he's taking this. I I, you know, I don't know if this is a joke thing, whatever. Well, before I could actually, I was like, I was why I said I I responded and I was like, Well, what do you mean? You know, and and he calls me on the phone. Like this, this again, let's let's hit on how real of a friend we are. He has my phone number and he can call it. Uh, he calls me on the phone and he goes, he goes, Well, what why would why would you say that to me? And I was like, Well, it was just, I was just giggling, you know, it's just a dig, you know, like and he and he's like, he's like, but you know I'm a Christian. And I said, I was like, okay, hold on a second, because I I'm I'm I'm honestly lost here. I don't know what's happening here. I don't know now if you're truly this offended or if you're pulling some sort of fucking like comedic skit on me. What's happening here? Are you really this offended? And he goes, Of course I'm this offended. Of course I'm I'm offended to my core. You know I'm a Christian, and yet you tell me goat Odin is the all father. And I was like, Okay, why does that offend you? And he's like, he's like, Because I just told you, because I'm Christian and you told me Odin is the all-father. I was like, oh, I was like, and he's like, and you should know this. You're my friend. And I was like, holy fuck, man. All right, let's get into the conversation. Because you open the fucking door. Um, I said, so I just want to make sure I got this right, that um what you're saying is that I have to, not, I, not that I should, but that I have to respect and and basically kind of tiptoe around how you feel about your God. Is that is that what I'm getting? You know, and he and he's like, I didn't say that. And I was like, but you're acting like that. So why don't we just come out and say it so that we can have this conversation? And I know my content, if you saw that video that I posted, I I had to hyper shorten it up because it was content, you know? But so I was like, we have to have the conversation, and we can't have the conversation if you don't just come out with it. So what it appears to me as though you're saying is that I am required to capitulate to your emotions, feelings, and and and reactivity structures regarding your God or surrounding your God. Am I getting this right? And he goes, Well, you should respect my position with my God. And I said, Then why don't you have to respect mine? I was like, you know, I'm Norse pagan, and yet you put Christ as king on everything. And what happened? Well, I'll I'll I'll I'll spoil this for you. The same thing happened that always happens every fucking time I get into this conversation. He got mad and hung up the phone. I've had this conversation a lot, a lot more than I would have ever thought I would have. But it always ends the same way. Person gets angry, person hangs up phone, person doesn't talk to me for fucking two weeks, then comes back around like nothing ever fucking happened. Or on the uh the there has been a few times where uh they come back around and demand an apology from me for what I had said. So let's get into this because this is a really good situation that again, like I said earlier in the episode, you can take this lesson, which is hypocrisy, and you can apply it broad scale to your life. Because you don't want the one number one thing you don't want to be in in life, and I understand that everybody is a hypocrite to a certain level, but the one thing you don't want to be in life is a massive fucking hypocrite. So let's break this down and see if we can't come to a conclusion as to how we're all of all different religions. And I do all mean, I do mean all, not just pagan to Christian, I mean Christian to pagan to Muslim to Islam to Buddhist to, you know, everything. Um because we have to figure out a way to live together that doesn't involve everybody capitulates and kowtows and bows to Christianity, because that's just not the way it's gonna happen. Um every single day, every last one of us, you guys listening and watching as well, you see people posting their stuff that says Christ is king. And I'm totally okay with that. I'm totally okay with that. But when I ask what they mean by it, they act like I'm fucking stupid. They I say I do I ask people, I'm like, do you mean that are you saying Christ is king in the sense that you're you're just declaring that that's this is what you believe? Or are you trying to say that everybody should believe it? Or are you just blanket a blanket applying your your indoctrination to everybody? Or are you just literally saying you're 100% of intoler intolerant of all other religions, regardless of whether or not they're practiced by your friends and family? And everybody always gets mad. So I really would like to get some answers flow in here because it seems to me that when we see the Muslims come out on the internet and they say, you know, Allah this and Allah Hu Akbar and all this other shit, the Christians go absolutely fucking nuts. Nobody else really does, but the Christians go absolutely fucking nuts. And I understand that because I will make it very clear that I am not a fan of Islam at fucking all. That religion is a fucking cancer to this planet. Um, especially if you get really in, really down into and you really abide by the teachings of it, that is a fucking cancer to this planet. Um, so I understand not wanting to hear it. I don't understand the reaction to hearing it. Um, being mad that somebody believes in a different God than you are than you do and saying it out loud, um, that that is a that's a reaction I can't quite wrap my head around because I thought we were, especially here in America, we were in the land of the free. And one of the biggest principles that built America was freedom from persecution for religious beliefs. But yet every time you turn around, somebody's being persecuted for their religious beliefs by the Christians. So we need to, we need to figure out where we're talking here because when I see people, I could very easily go off. Um, because night I would say 98%. And that's not even embellishing. That's not me being entitled or arrogant or cocky. I happen to have some knowledge, I happen to have some intellect, and I happen to have a good way with words. Um, I can so I can sell, I can tell you that 98% of the people that I see posting Christ as King, I could absolutely decimate, fucking destroy, annihilate their entire fucking argument regarding that statement. But I don't because I support you. I support this, I support you saying this, because if it's what you believe and it keeps you on that good path, I'm in 100% support. But anytime we break out of that box and and the and and the Christians see it, all of a sudden everybody that's not Christian is now wrong. So where the fuck do we draw the line? Because the way it the way you guys make it seem, and I'm talking to Christians, I'm talking to the devout Christians, the Jesus people, as I call them, the people that believe so wholeheartedly in God that they've got in their God that they've got to put it on everything, plaster it across everything, say it out loud all the fucking time, like you're trying to convince yourself that this is real. Um, and I don't mean it's not real, I'm just saying when everybody knows when somebody keeps telling themselves the same thing, they're not trying to convince you. They're trying to convince themselves. And that's how it comes off, right? So for those people, they come out here and they it what it would seem as though is that everybody they demand the respect of their God. They demand their God be respected, their beliefs be respected, they demand you not say anything about them. And in many cases, they demand that you not believe something else. Um, and that's a wild proposition to me, considering that these people are very literally requiring of other people, they do not know, a level of respect that they are they themselves are unwilling to deliver to the masses. And that is just massive hypocrisy to me. That is arrogance. That is you walking around like you're fucking royalty, like you own this bitch, and how dare somebody don't know it.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

No, no, you're exactly right. And what one thing I want to just touch on here, real quick, is one thing that I find, you know, we're talking about hypocrisy here with the Christian religion and just all that stuff. The Norse paganism, like Norse paganism, you know, people that practice, we welcome everybody.

SPEAKER_03 19:29

Even though they slaughtered us, yes, we still welcome you.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

Yeah, we we welcome you. I've said time and time again that I'll stand behind my Christian brothers and sisters if anything would happen with Islam and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

On this show, you've said that many times.

SPEAKER_02 19:44

And time and time again, I get attacked by Christians because they look behind me, they say it's satanic, it's evil, it's this and that. Because of what I have, and it's not. See, and I I think what it is is people are afraid. Let's just be honest. People are afraid of what they don't know because of what they were taught. They're indoctrinated. I mean, we had to talk about this before the show. They're indoctrinated to believe this, and if you didn't believe this to a team, this will happen, this will happen, this will happen. You know, and it just and I think with that spin and how you look at modern society and what they say about it, I and I think that's the big, like a pretty big issue, like with this whole thing. Because Norse paganism, people who seem to think, you know, they have this idea about people that practice Norse paganism, they seem to think that we're this evil, barbaric, just mindless people when we're not. Right. You know, it's people need to like understand what Norse paganism actually is. Before, you know, you know, you want us to respect your gods, which we do. We respect your gods, we respect that you know, hey, you want to believe in Jesus, you want to walk that path, bravo. You believe in something that's keeping you on the straight and arrow, but show us the same respect back. We believe in this, and it makes us better.

SPEAKER_03 21:14

Even if it comes down to a point of disagree, agree to disagree, we don't have to convert each other, we don't have to look at it as though as though we cannot coexist. We can agree to disagree. Um, but the problem there is that because so many people don't understand any other religion than their own, they um they fear what they might learn. Okay, so think about this, and we don't even have to pertain this to religion, it can be anything. Let's take cars because I I've built my whole existence on cars. I'm in I've been in the car world my literally my entire life. From I was two years old sitting under the hood of a fucking of a K5 blazer with my dad, just watching how he did shit because he put me there. I've been in the car world my whole Whole life. The car world is as divided as the sports world. So I, we, uh, me and Dave, we live in Illinois. Illinois has just so happens to have two baseball teams. We have the Chicago Cubs and we have the Chicago White Sox. The rivalry between the Cubs Cubs fans and the Sox fans is this is rated the second most likely to end in bloodshed. The number one is Boston Red Sox and the New York Yankees. But because there's sports teams, there's a rivalry in the same sports teams adjacent to each other on the East Coast. But in this particular state in Illinois, we have two sports, two professional sports teams in the same city playing the same game. And that breeds nothing but fucking ill will, bad blood, and extreme rivalry. Very, very, very rarely will you ever see a Sox fan convert to a Cubs fan or a convert a Cubs fan convert to a Sox fan. That's much like the car world. Car world is just as divided. There is Ford guys, there is Dodge guys, and there is Chevy guys. There's not a whole lot of Toyota guys or Nissan guys or Honda guys. It's primarily in America anyway, it's primarily the big three: Ford, Dodge, and General Motors. Chevy guys are not going to fucking convert to a Ford guy because they believe that Ford is the stack of fucking evidence that they need to prove that Ford is bad, as where Ford guys look at Chevy the same way. They look at every bad idea that an auto manufacturer ever had. They stack up those bad ideas and bam, Chevy truck. You know? The Dodge guys kind of fall in the middle because Mopar guys were outcasts. They're fringe. You know, they're the fringe element on the on the on the muscle car world, especially because in the 60s, Dodge owned the muscle car world. They just did. Okay. Ford Mustang made all sorts of fucking headway for pony cars, which is small cars with big motors, long hoods, short decks, which is short trunk, just you know, weight back design in that kind of regard. But Dodge really owned the muscle car area era. They had the big cars, they had the big motors, they had the big power, and you could do a lot with them things. Um, but as time went on, Mopar kind of just turned into a fucking pile of shit company. Like Dodge trucks are right in between Chevy. Chevy, statistically speaking, in fact, as of 2025, the number one vehicle on earth for customer dissatisfaction was the GMC Sierra. The GMC pickup truck, which is literally a Chevy pickup truck with a different grille. That's all it is. That's the only fucking difference you get between Chevy and GMC. Chevy to Cadillac, GMC to Cadillac, you get a, you know, maybe you get a little air ride suspension, you get a couple more electronic gadgets that fail all the time. Or you get, well, now you get the motors that blow up all the time in the escalades. Their escalade engines are fucking blowing left and fucking right. Um, and they say it's because they figured out that they put the wrong oil in it. They they recommended zero W20 and they're putting 540 in them or some shit now. But um, you know, that's a whole different fucking conversation. But there's this divide amongst these car people. I grew up in a Ford household. My dad hated fucking Chevies like you wouldn't fucking believe. One of his friends hated Fords like you wouldn't fucking believe. Oddly enough, both of them mostly drove Dodges because they were fucking cheap. They were everywhere. And, you know, we grew up in middle class, lower middle class families. We just didn't have the money. So, but they would have these arguments. And then when I got into building muscle cars, custom cars, resto mods, and all that shit, you I was just embroiled, boiling in this fucking rivalry. I worked for a fucking Chevy guy who thought Ford could do no right, Dodge could do no right, Chevy could do no wrong. Um, it didn't matter what you said to him, didn't matter what kind of paperwork, what kind of evidence, what kind of statistics you presented to him that said that you know, this was a bad idea that Chevy did. He just refused, flat out refused to believe it. And that's that's the attitude in the religious sphere, right? When we talk about religion, is nobody wants to just admit, hey man, I like maybe my religion wasn't the one. Maybe my religion didn't, you know, change the the, did do the most for the world, do the most changing of the world for the best fucking, you know, in the best directions, this and that. But it's what I believe and it's what I feel in my heart, and it's what keeps me on that straight track. Nobody can do just do that. And unfortunately, in this modern day and age, we've got, again, to quote the big three, um, we've got the Ford Chevy and Dodge of religions in America, in the world right now. We've got Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Those are the big three. There are other large religions, but those are the big three because those are the monotheistic religions that everybody seems to believe everybody else has to abide by. The Judaism is a little bit different because you can't be, you can't actually be a part of it unless you like you can be a converted Hebrew, but you're still not respected in the Jewish church. Um, you're just practicing their practices without any of their respect, kind of thing, is basically a dumbed-down version of how that works. Islam is a weird situation because if you convert to Islam, they want to kill you because you converted away from your religion, and that means you could convert one day away from this religion. So they would rather have you just pay a tax so that they don't kill you and you can continue believing in your own religion. And then we have the Christian sect. We have the Christian sector of society, which believes that Jesus was the only fucking way, is the only truth, and every bit of truth that exists exists because of him. To do a short compare and contrast here, um, paganism in gen, Norse paganism, Celtic paganism, um, in general, we tend we typically honor the things that Jesus said you don't have to, or God said, you know, Christian God said you don't have to, where God said, you know, come unto the land and take it for your own. That is the opposite of what we believe. We believe that you should be working with the land. You should be just as much of a benefit to the land and the wildlife as it is to you. When it comes to the wildlife, you know, God had said something along the lines of, and take all these animals for your own, use them as you need. Basically, if you cut it down, and I've had a pastor or priest or whatever they're called break this down for me. And he said, basically, it means these are all your property. These are these are God's animals. You are a child of God, which means they are now your property. That is the opposite of what we believe. We believe as Norse pagans and paganism in general, we believe that the animals are not our property, that we we should only kill when necessary, when hunting, we should only hunt when we need to eat. We shouldn't be gluttonous, we shouldn't just go wipe out everything and skin these animals to make coats out of and then leave them meat for the dogs or the bugs or the maggots or the flies. We should in in at all times respect this nature, this natural world in all of its aspects and facets as we want it to respect us. We should benefit it as it as we need it to benefit us. It's pretty much the polar opposite of what Christianity teaches.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:51

So uh, oh, go ahead. If you got something to say.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

Yeah, yeah. No, no, you're exactly right. Because uh one thing uh, you know, Norris Pagans did, you know, e even during the Viking era, let's just just take the Vican era because that's what everybody knows. Um when they went out hunting, if they killed whatever animal they killed, whether it was a whale, when they killed a whale, and yes, they killed whales, they would use the oil to get them through their harsh winters. But then they would also eat all the meat. And all that was left was the bones, and they found uses for all of that. They found basically they found uses for everything that they killed.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

Every part of everything they killed.

SPEAKER_02 30:31

Yeah, so I mean, whether it was food, whether they used turned it into tools, whether they turned it in, you know, this, that, or the other, used it for heating purposes, fires, all that stuff. They used everything. Um, so you know, you you have that, and it's just so there's a lot of huge differences where we also respect nature. You know, that's like for us, for Norse pagans, we don't need, I mean, yeah, we had our, I guess you can call them our longhouses or temples, whatever you want to call them. We would go there, they would go there, they would have their feasts, they'll have all those stuff, they'll do the their political thing, you know, where they would have to, you know, hear everybody in the town and their grievances and decide what happens. I mean, they had a very d very, very they're very well, you know, they had democracy well before, you know, a lot of other people in like England and all that stuff. So we Norse pagans have that respect when it comes to these things, and that's something that people don't seem to want to understand. Where when Christians, you know, you you know, a lot of Christians they'll just go out for game, shoot something, drop it, that's it. You know, where we actually would use that.

SPEAKER_03 31:51

Sport hunting, yeah, they call it trophy hunting, that's what it is hunting for sport or trophy, trophy hunting.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

And see, then back then they even back then they did the trophy hunting, but they don't they didn't do that in this religion, you know, because they they utilized everything because then they gave whatever they didn't use, they gave back to Mother Earth, so on and so forth, which created more life. With life comes death, with death comes life.

unknown 32:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Well, we've got this situation happening, and and again, we're not digging on Christians, we're just laying out the truth. So if you're a Christian, honestly, from the bottom of my heart, if you're a Christian and you don't understand what we're saying, maybe maybe it's time to take a deeper look into that book that you follow, or the the um which book the ideology, the Bible, you know, that they're speaking to Christians, they follow the Bible. Um, or or look in deeper and look deeper into the ideologies that that Christians hold so that you can you reaffirm your beliefs. I don't, I don't, I'm not trying to convert you. Reaffirm your beliefs, or or maybe you just question some things. I question everything, I even question my own religion, right? I I I question every single aspect of life and history, um, and I encourage you to do the same. But we have this this generalized um uh departure from norm, right? Departure from the regular when it comes to the comparison between paganism and Christianity. Um the difference is is that um I shouldn't say the difference, I said I should say the dynamic is going to happen when the conversation starts, okay? Especially regarding what we believe about Mother Earth and nature. Um, it would seem to me, and I am absolutely not asserting this as a fact, it is only an observation or a notion that I happen to think that I see. Uh, it would seem to me that the most people that are actually absolutely fucking destroying this planet keep telling me about Jesus, right? Um all these people building data centers are all about the Jesus, and the data centers are literally killing the fucking planet. But so there's this divide here, and we just can't seem to get past it. The divide is only gonna end when we can all have a conversation about the deepest shit that we don't want to tickle our special spots, and it's conversations like this that's happening right now that are going to fix, going to repair the pathway forward for all of mankind, because there's 10,000 religions out here, you know. To think that three of them or one of them could actually absolutely rule the world is absurd. But we have in our world, in our abilities as humans, we have in our power to accept what other people believe, knowing it's different. We have this power. But unfortunately, and I'm just gonna be real here, I don't see Christians being as accepting as they tell everybody they have to be. The Christians are not as accepting of Islam as they tell Islam they have to be of Christianity. Same thing with Judaism, same thing with paganism, same thing with Buddhism, Hinduism. It's and it's in here, let me for you Christians out there, let me give you a little bit of insight from somebody that's not a Christian. Your religion is fucking confusing. It just is. And that's not a dig, it's just confusing as shit. Because a lot of the things of Christianity were taken directly from pagan traditions and then just re-worded, written into one God, sprinkled in a couple a couple extra rules for control measures, and then marched forward as if this other thing that it all got taken from is not even existent. Okay. That's one aspect. Another aspect that is confusing about it is because I, uh, you know, most of our friends, me and Dave both are most of our friends are Christians. We've got Satanist friends, we've got Christian friends, we've got Hindu friends, we've got Islamic friends, we've got all friends of all kinds of colors, creeds, and types and religions. Um, but here's the one of the biggest things that confuses me is when I talk to the Christians, um, they they always they always talk to me about acceptance and and tolerance, yet they're not exhibiting any of it. They're not actually exercising any any tolerance or acceptance of anybody else that doesn't believe what they believe. It's it almost becomes like it feels like it's a political conversation at this point.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

It it does.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

You know what I mean? Because like the left isn't never gonna accept the right, the right's never gonna accept the left, and they neither one of them understand that they're killing the fucking planet, you know? Like it's just it's it's and I'm not saying Jesus or Christianity is killing the planet. If uh of all the religions, I don't think that the Jesus is the Jesus people are the ones doing it um willfully so.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

But they but they are some of the most um what's the word?

SPEAKER_03 37:00

They're the most prominent, one of the most prominent religions.

SPEAKER_02 37:03

But they're but they're also the ones that will oh god, what is I'm I'm trying to think of the word I'm looking for. It's basically you know they'll dismiss essential, they will dismiss any other religion, they don't care. Very dismissive, yes. Yeah, like you said earlier, that you know, when it comes to Islam, they hate it, they hit they hate anybody and everybody that has anything to do with Islam. But if you've actually done homework on Islam and you know the Muslim community, you have good Muslims, you have bad Muslims, just like you have good Christians and you have bad Christians.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Every religion has also just for argument's sake, so we don't get anybody firing off at us. You got good pagans and you got bad pagans too.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

I was just about to say that. I was literally just about to say that you just took words about you in our religion. You have good pagans, you have bad pagans. You have good Satanists, you have bad Satanists. Every religion has good and bad. That's just the way it is. Now, I have actually I have a I have a buddy of mine, like a brother, he's a devout Catholic, and he's probably the only person that's ever come up to me to ask about Norse paganism and not be judgy. Anybody else, any other Christian I've ever talked to, it's always judgy about it. Now, I've also talked I've I've got friends that are Muslim, and I've talked to them about they've asked me about paganism, about Norse paganism, because they were curious, not judgy one bit at all. They just wanted to know and understand where I'm coming from, and then they try to explain, then they start explaining where they're coming from with their religion and all that stuff, you know. And again, you have extremists on all sides of the aisle, doesn't matter the religion, but when I talk outside of my one buddy that's a devout Catholic, outside of anybody that I've talked to about, you know, Norse paganism and my beliefs and all that stuff, I have to be honest. Christians never ask. Christians don't ask. I get more shit from Christians about being pagan, but when I and the one thing that surprised me, having a couple Muslim friends that I have, they were there in enthralled in the in my in the discussion. They were very asking a bunch of questions. Yeah, like why is this? Why is this? How many gods is it? You know, asking all of these questions, like just very intrigued by it. Never once, never once did they look down on me at all. And I have one Catholic friend that never looked down on me for being pagan. Yeah, yeah. Outside of that, if it was anybody else, they're like, Well, you know, you're gonna go to you're gonna go to hell. And then my rebuttal to that is, well, I hope I do, because I can sit with the goddess hell and it just enjoy the rest of my life. Hellheim, here I come. Here I come. You know, it and it you that's the thing with Christians, there you know, they say that and they think it's like you know, we're gonna get scared and well, I'm gonna convert back to Christianity and this and that. No. No, you're just you're just making it for me to realize I'm gonna be going to a very good place when I die.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

Yeah. Well, because we don't have that where you just burn an eternal fire. Like we is is that's not that was one of the systems of control that was implemented in the rewriting of religion. It was, well, if you don't do what this mortal man says when you pass on to the afterlife, you risk burning in him in eternal flame. Like it's it's it's not something we have. Um, but that to to to round out this this confusing confusing part, the confusion comes from me. This is just me personally, when I talk to Christian friends uh about religion, and it's always I talk to them about their religion, because I just to be honest with you, Christians just don't give a shit about asking about any other religion. They don't want to know, they don't seem to want to know about religions that aren't theirs. They don't want to seem to entertain the idea that they even exist. Um, so I but I am an inquisitive person. My boss is a Mormon and he was growing up, he grew up a devout practicing Mormon. So it's very intriguing to me to hear that, you know, the way that that particular branch operates. Uh, my grandmother was Irish Catholic. Um, so I I have all this, right? And uh and and I credit a lot of this uh to the fact that my father didn't allow God in my house. He didn't allow any of that shit in my house. God's gonna sit this one out, you know. He didn't have a religion, he didn't, he was baptized Methodist. Uh my mom was Catholic, not Irish Catholic, but Catholic. Um, I've I've been surrounded by religion my whole life when never really allowed to take part until into my adulthood. But that actually allowed me the the to the the that third person perspective. But when I talk to Christians, one of the biggest confusing things for me is that one of the biggest arguments is that when you have other religions that have different denominations, they always talk about they don't how they don't get along. You know, people that believe in Christ, Christ is king, we all believe the same shit. And that's a very confusing topic for me because every time I bring it up, I get met with hate, I get met with with anger, resentment, I get met with vile, just absolutely wretched fucking conversation and epithets and put downs. Um but Christians like to quote Islam. Fuck Islam, they don't even get along with each other. That I agree with. The problem for me, the confusion comes for me, is when we talk about Christianity and when they they they say that all Christians believe the same thing, then that's simply not true. That's why we have um in fact, if you go on the internet and you just do a five-minute Google search, even five-second Google search, you will find that there is 30,000 to 45,000 different denominations of Christianity. And that happens when one denomination doesn't get along with another denomination, thinks they can do it better, so they rewrite part of their their doctrine and they go off and do their own thing over there. That's part of the confusion.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

Um, so when you have this, I not to cut you off, but I think another part of it is I mean, like you were saying, I mean, though, and I can see why it's like confusing because 35,000 different denominations and all of them have their own book.

SPEAKER_03 43:34

Yeah. Well, and then we look at places like Ireland. Ireland has historically been a fucking war zone. The the and we know that the only people that would that ever fucking that ever were ever able to beat the fucking pagans were the Irish, to which Dave and I have Irish in ancestry. Um, that's not a brag. It's just in fact, I I couldn't even tell you how Irish I really am. I just I I pay attention to who I am, not What I am. Um, I'm an American. That's what the fuck I am, you know. Um but the when you look at Ireland, and and and and I I love that you brought it up because that is one of the go-to positions that I take when I get into the conversations that are always arguments about Christians not agreeing with each other. Ireland has been a war zone historically since the inception of Christianity, and it's been the it's been the Catholics fighting the Protestants. I thought you guys all believed the same shit. Like, and but literally millions of people have died because you don't believe the same shit. But when I bring that up, we can't talk about that. This whole thing is about conversation. We need to get to a point with the Christians that we can converse with each other because I truly believe to your credit, Christians, Jesus people, whatever you guys want to call yourselves, I believe truly to my core, to your credit. You are the only religion out there that is capable of this. I know we've got our Hindus, we've got our Buddhists, we've got all this. I firmly believe that Christians are the only ones capable of actually putting some of their own some of their own programming away. We've all been programmed, I don't mean that with a negative connotation, um, to be able to fucking have conversations and actually move this thing forward. Because as we know, there are in this country in America, and I can only speak for America on this because I just don't know of anywhere else, I don't know about anywhere else, um, we have a separation of church and state. However, it was founded as a Christian nation, like not as a Christian nation, but it was founded by Christians. Okay. I'm totally okay with that. And if we want to make this nation a Christian nation, I'm totally okay with that. As long as we don't throw away the whole we don't persecute or prosecute people of other faiths or denominations. I'm all for it. I'm I I I can I can abide by historical context here, um, but it we can't get there if we can't have the conversation.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

Right. Well, and and you said, you know, you said it exactly. I mean, one thing I want to touch on, you mentioned something about separation of church and state. Now, I just the other night, uh, the wife and I actually watched a documentary about the satanic temple. And what they started to point out was, I mean, they were going after like um different um like state governments because they're putting up the Ten Commandments. So they wanted their their statue of whatever it is up there um as well. But that's the thing. When you start to put those kind of texts in state capitals, where is the separation of church and state? There is none.

SPEAKER_03 46:51

Well, I've got a video coming about the syntax. Like there's a separation of church and state, you're not, and this is me fighting for Christians. You're not allowed to fucking pray in school. We see the fucking videos, we see the fucking news, we see it all all the time. Christians always persecuted and prosecuted for praying in school.

SPEAKER_04 47:13

Right.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

Because there's a separation of church and state. However, Muslims can do it, Jews can do it, everybody else can fucking do it. But my thing is, is if there is actually a separation of church and state, where did the syntax come from that every all these politicians, these campaigning politicians want to fucking talk about? We're gonna implement a syntax. Well, where does sin come from? Does it come from your religious book? Because if it does, we can't do it. And when I look at the dictionary and I look at the encyclopedias and I look all over the internet, it would seem as though sin comes from religious doctrine. Now, that also throws a really fucking weird wrench in the works where we can have states pushing Christian ideologies on people and taxing them or prosecuting them when they don't abide by it. But we can't have Christian children praying in school or wearing Jesus shirts or anything like that. It's a weird fucking dichotomy. It's a weird, weird balance that we have to try to figure out how to how to navigate there. Um, but it my effort in that is for the Christians. Nobody's ever said Norse pagans couldn't pray because you don't you don't see us. We don't do anything. Like we don't have to go to a certain place, we don't have to bow our head in a certain way, we don't have to clasp our hands in a certain way. We can just talk to our gods and they hear us. That's just the way it works. Simple. Yeah. Um, so my fight is for the Christians. So again, to reiterate, I know I've said this a million times during this episode, but every time I get into this conversation, it is very, very important to reiterate this fact. I'm fighting for you guys, not fighting with you guys. I'm fighting for you guys. But if you want me to continue, and many, many millions of people like me, uh, of all different denominations of all different religions, we're gonna have to come to the table and figure out where we can draw the line of hypocrisy. Why is it that you can come out and you can spit directly in the face? And I'm gonna use that term because that's what is given to me. That is what has what that is what has been told to me multiple times, numerous times. You're spitting in my face by saying Odin is the all-father. So let me turn that back on to you guys. And why is it that you can spit in everybody else's face by saying Christ is king, show everybody else of every single religion and every single denomination and belief system and structure? You can show them a complete lack of respect. However, you require the amount of respect for you that you are unwilling to deliver to literally everybody else. And then you'll, in the same breath, turn around and talk about tolerance and acceptance. What are we tolerating? What are we accepting? Where does it come from? We need to talk about this because it's not, it apparently hasn't been laid out for not only non-Christians, but Christians themselves, because most of the Christians I talk to have no fucking idea what they believe. I'm just being real. They have no fucking idea what they believe. They have no fucking idea what tolerance is, what acceptance is, what they're supposed to tolerate, what they're supposed to accept, what they're not supposed to accept. Um, and and and I'll I'll go one step further. Um, and this is for just that I know there's probably a very small handful of you that are listening to this that are chomping at the bit right now and wanting to fight. Um, it does get brought to me that, you know, it's been said to me, Jesus, is you you want me to flip the tables? Like that was said a couple of weeks ago to me. You want me to flip the tables? And I go, what are we talking about flipping the tables? And he goes, you know, Jesus didn't just, you know, Jesus didn't teach you to just lay back and fucking accept everything. Uh, you know, he flipped tables. And I was like, okay, are you you want to get into a physical alter? You're okay, so now we're in a we're in a position where you're threatening physical, physical altercation with me. I think it's important that you know that our gods our gods didn't flip tables. Our gods, our gods honored death in battle, real battle, not flipping tables and losing your shit in the fucking hall. We our gods honored swinging axes at people and hitting people with clubs and hanging people and cutting people's heads off. Like we died in battle. So for the small handful of you out there that want to bring up that table flipping thing and the make no peace with evil thing, we're not evil, so that can go out the window. But that table flipping thing and losing your shit in the hall, um, don't bring that to me. I'm just gonna be real with you. Don't bring that to me because uh, and don't bring that to anybody because you know what? I would I would always say stand up for your own, but your religion doesn't teach you to be, it teaches you to be not violent, and our religion teaches us violence is uh a solver of many things, and not only that, but the more violent you can be in certain situations, the better. So you might want to pull back on that.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Yeah, well, and what I think what they also need to also kind of maybe realize here is like you said it, you know, um we as pagans, like Norse pagans, when it comes to stuff like that, we look at it much differently than Christians do. And you know, we like I guess the only way I can really put it is if we want our ticket to Valhalla, we're gonna die in battle. And by battle, it could be an altercation with somebody, and that's what a lot of pagans, nor especially Norse pagans, will look at. So if you approach a Norse pagan like that, just know in the back of their head, they're thinking, well, if I lose and I die, I get to see that in Valhalla. I get a seat with Odin. So that's just extra incentive for them. They're not gonna lay down because they have to show that they're worthy. So they're not just gonna lay down, they're gonna take it to you. And while they're taking it to you, they're gonna be yelling for Odin. Yeah, and I I've had a dream about this once, where in my dream, I was literally yelling, This is for Odin, as I was bashing somebody's head in.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

Yeah. Well, and and to paint uh paint this picture, um, not to say more vividly, but more recognizably for our Christian audience. Um, Muslims, that's one of the things you hate about them the most, is that they want to die for their gods. You don't want to die for your gods, you want to live for your gods. Many religions out there want to die for their gods, and Islam is going to be the most recognizable um uh example of that for you. You know, how could these motherfuckers, you know, and well, they believe if they die, they in battle, they if they die coming into your house and blowing the motherfucker up and killing your whole family, they believe that they get their 72 virgins, their fucking 40 acres and a mule, whatever the fuck it was. Whatever it is. You know, that's what they believe. We don't necessarily go that far. We believe that I, you know, as far as I have researched, we believe that the battle has to be just. It's you're you're not a berserker, you're not just running in and fucking killing children. You know, that's not that's not how this works. But if you bring us, like we're we're a very meet you, and this is why the religion fits me, because I'm a very meet you where you want to go. If you want to meet me at the table and we can have a conversation, we can do that. If you want to meet me in the parking lot and we can have a battle, we can also do that. Um, it's a very meet you where you want to go religion, but at the end of the day, you want to live for your God and we want to die for ours. So that table flipping shit can get left off the fucking left out of the conversation.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

Yeah, yeah, you just leave that out of the yeah, because if it's justified, I mean it's it's not gonna end well. It really isn't.

SPEAKER_03 55:06

For anybody, for anybody, you don't want to meet Jesus. I don't necessarily want to fucking meet Odin right about now. So well, you you can want to die if you want, but yeah, that'll probably that'll probably get the government coming out wellness check at fucking whatever your address is.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

No, I'm just saying, I mean, if if I I mean like I've always said to myself, like, uh, but I'm on my deathbed, I'm gonna throw my my bedpan at the nurse to start a fight. That's just what I'm gonna be because you know, I mean, you want an honorable death. I mean, but the see and the other thing with like Norse pagans is that it's you want an honorable death, but you you want your name to live on. Yeah, you want a legacy, you want the legacy you want for all the good things that you've done, not for the bad stuff. I mean, because everybody, it doesn't matter if you're pagan, if you're Christian, if you're Muslim, if you're whatever of the 30,000 other denominations that are out there, everybody wants to leave a good name.

unknown 56:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 56:11

And that's I think that's uh that's actually a a good building block that this conversation could start on. For all of you people listening and watching, that is a good building block. Everybody wants to leave a positive legacy. I know we're gonna get the shitbags out there that want to leave a fucking shitty legacy, the Ed Geans, the fucking Jeffrey Dahmer's, the John Wayne Gacy's and the Ted Bundys. They only want to be remembered and they don't care how. But most people, most people, whether you're Christian, whether you're Norse pagan, whether you're Hindu, you're Buddhist, you're Muslim, even the Jews, uh, most people, most good normal people want to leave a good legacy behind. And that I think is the uh the greatest fucking starting point for the conversation. I I'm I'm wrapping my head around what you just said, and I'm liking it more and more and more because that is really, you know. Do you want to leave a good legacy? Of course I do. Well, I want to leave a good legacy too. So let's talk about the differences in our religions and how can we how we can each respectively make that happen.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

Yeah, because I mean ultimately, you got to think about it. It's going to take Christians and pagans to unite. It really is.

SPEAKER_03 57:20

Christians, you got, I'm sorry, guys, you can't fight the Muslims. We're done. You're not like you're you're you're you're done. Like they are so fucking willing to die, and they've got the numbers. You know, you you outweigh them a little bit, but do your research five minutes on Google, just research the last 100 years, research even the last 50 years, you will find out Christianity Christians are and Christianity is being outweighed and outnumbered by Islam in record fucking time. So it's not very long before just sheer numbers, even if you were all willing to die for your God, like the Muslims are, you just by the sheer numbers, you couldn't compete. So you're gonna need some fucking help. So take the fucking help from people that are willing to help you. We we're willing as Norse pagans to put away our our, you know, the whole history of the Northern Crusades where you slaughtered us, stole our religion, renamed it, and fucking called it one God instead of you know 34 or whatever. It's we're totally on your side here. Like we can put history away to build the future. And I I strongly suggest, and and that is my mission here, is to be able to do just that. Put history away so that we can build the future together. Because just like Christians and Jews, I don't want Islam taking over. I do not in in any way, shape, or fucking form want Islam to be in this goddamn country if if even if it's the last bastion of peace. I do not want Islam here. I know the Christians don't, I know the Jews don't, I know pretty much everybody else doesn't, because they're so willing to die for their God. They they believe it's honorable and they're to kill your kids, mistreat you, fucking all the shit. We know all the shit. So let's let's bridge the gap here. Let's have the conversation about the hypocrisy that you unfortunately you guys just exhibit more so than anybody. You know, it's just it we we have to have the conversation.

SPEAKER_02 59:21

Yeah, and I I I also want to point out to you know to everybody for for Christians, um there's a reason why people are leaving that religion and coming to paganism. And if you don't think it's happening, it's happening in droves.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

In droves.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

It's it you couldn't even wrap your mind around it if if you even wanted to at this point. You you'd probably be thinking it's there's no way. I'm telling you, it is there's tens of millions of pagans that are coming, and more coming every single day.

SPEAKER_03 59:58

Just you can you can do your own research, and and it's very easy, and you can have some fun doing it, Christians. Just go on Instagram, go on Facebook, and count how many people are wearing hammers around their neck now.

unknown 1:00:10

That's us.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:12

That's everywhere. We're fucking everywhere, and we're picking up more and more daily. So let's band together. I don't want to eradicate your religion. I don't want my religion eradicated. I want us to find a way to work together to make America what America could really fucking be. And it's gonna take both of us. Um, the Jews aren't gonna be helping anybody, the Muslims aren't gonna be helping anybody, the Hindus aren't gonna be helping anybody, the Buddhists sure as fuck ain't gonna be helping anybody. Um, we're gonna have to band together all 30,000 or 40,000 fucking denominations of Christianity with all the Norse pagans and the Celt pagans and everybody of that, you know, that denomination or that sector of the of society and and do it ourselves. We're gonna, but we gotta get past this hypocrisy. We gotta get past you demanding the respect you refuse to deliver to anyone else.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:01

Yeah. Bottom line is if you want us to you demand the respect, then show us the respect too. Yeah, you know, we don't come out here trying to say, you know, I mean I you know, we discussed this earlier, like we could drop a nuke, and but we're not because we respect um Christianity, but we you know, obviously we love our religion as well, and that's one thing. I mean, even back in the old times, I mean, it wasn't that the Norse pagans didn't respect Christians, and that's you know, and that's Hollywood putting a spin on it to make Norse pagans and the Viking era just look that bad. All they wanted to do back then was because the terrain that they lived in was a farm, they wanted a farm, that's it. They wanted to farm, build ships, trade. That's all they wanted to do. So what did they have to do? They had to go elsewhere to look. And it wasn't until the Christians started with them that all those wars happened. And mind you, and I want you to think about this, and you can look this up historically. The great heathen army decimated England. Yeah, you know, and I think they even took France with like or almost took France with like 300. Yeah, 300 Norsemen almost took France.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:23

Well, that's a that's a good illustration for what I was just talking about with the Islam, with the with the Muslims and the Christians, you know. Uh it it it you the Christians couldn't touch the fucking heathens um until the numbers came, and you're running out of numbers. Not only is Christianity sinking in numbers, but Muslims are rising in numbers. So um we're gonna have to figure something out, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:47

Let's wrap this shit up. And also remember that we talked about this. The only people that were able to actually beat the Northmen were the Celts.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:58

Or the Celts. Irish are fucking warriors. Don't fuck with the Irish, man. No. Whoo! They're fucking warriors, man. I don't give a fuck if you're talking South Irish, North Irish. They are fucking warriors.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:10

They are, they very they really are.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:13

So all right, let them know where they can find you, Dave.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:15

All right, y'all. You can find me on social media. I'm heavily active over there on Instagram and Facebook at the hammer drops. In the bio, you're gonna find two links. One that's gonna take you to the Savagely Loud podcast page. Don't forget to follow and like and share the content over there. It's gonna definitely help us out. And the other link is going to be a simple link tree that's gonna take you everywhere else on the internet where you can find this beautiful face.

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You got that right. If you want to help me out, get these words out, get these truths out. You can follow me at savagely loud on Instagram, is where I'm most active. I am starting to try to become, I know I've said this before, but I'm st I'm I every time I try to get more active on Facebook, I just like I face palm so hard I knock myself out of my chair with some of you people. Um, but uh I yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wild. Now I'm starting to think of all the fucking the last interactions I had on Facebook yesterday. Oh my god. Um, but Instagram, Savagely Loud. Two links on that page. One link to the Savagely Loud podcast page. Please follow us over there. Uh the other link is to a link tree. Uh, anywhere you want to hear my shit, hear my bullshit or see my pretty face, you can find it there. Easy peasy. Facebook X and Rumble at Savagely Loud. YouTube, I will probably be dropping Rumble pretty soon, to be honest with you, because fucking Rumble sucks for creators. They'd like they literally do nothing for creators. Um, and uh I I don't I don't I haven't even posted on there for a bit for a minute, I'll tell you. Just be honest. Uh, YouTube at Savagely Loud Podcast on YouTube. Don't forget to subscribe, send it to your friends, and have them subscribe. You can email us in savagely loud at gmail.com. Uh like, comment, share the material, and please, for all the love of the holy things that you love, give us a rate and review. Like, you know, give us a good review, good five-star rating. Let's get this stuff uh let's get this stuff cranking, let's get these conversations like this, these non-animalistic, non-hate-filled, non-resentful conversations uh happening so that we can actually band together with some motherfuckers and actually fix this goddamn planet. That all being said, we got all the way down in it today. So let's get to a segment I like to call hopelessly human, and it starts a little bit like people can be they can be quite tough, they can get in the way, but at the end of the day, some are hopeless stupid.

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Some are hopelessly human.

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Some are hopelessly human, and this one's no different. This one is an extremely short one. It's actually, it was a post, but I I absolutely loved it, so I wanted to read it to you guys. Um, this post is it looks like it comes from a Drew McCaskill. Um, it says, My post my mom has Alzheimer's, but she was an award winning teacher for 30 years. Lately, she wakes up and gathers things to go. Lately, she wakes up and gathers her things to go to work. Her AM nurse started giving her printing emails to edit. Quote, grading papers is her new joy. I thank God for her and her caregivers. Joy is always possible. That's really cool because I'm not a fan of teachers. In fact, I think some teachers, most teachers are the scum of the fucking earth. Just because you're taking part in the indoctrination and the Franco-Prussian school system of creating worker bees and you're turning our children into drones. But there I have known and I have had some really, really magical fucking teachers in my life. And for you guys, that shit's really cool to hear that somebody that was so into their job for their or their career or their mission for their entire life was so into it that they actually love doing it after they get afflicted with Alzheimer's. That's hopelessly human. That's the show. Later, guys.

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