EP.106 Karmelo Conflict

In this episode, we break down the case involving Karmelo Anthony and examine why the situation has become such a public and social media firestorm. From the incident itself and the legal proceedings to the online reactions, media coverage, fundraising controversies, and the broader debates surrounding race, justice, and public opinion, we explore every angle of a case that has sparked intense discussion across the country.

We look at how facts, rumors, and emotions have collided in real time, creating confusion and division while the legal process continues to unfold. Rather than focusing on headlines alone, we examine the consequences for everyone involved and discuss how public narratives can sometimes outpace the evidence.

Whether you're following the case closely or just trying to understand why it has generated so much attention, this episode takes a deep dive into a situation that many see as a disaster on multiple levels—for the individuals involved, for public discourse, and for the growing tendency to try high-profile cases in the court of public opinion before they are resolved in court.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Everything you're about to hear is for entertainment purposes only. Listen, have some fun, but don't ever do, believe, or promote anything they say. They're idiots.

SPEAKER_00 0:12

Guys, guys, guys, guys, hold up, hold up. You should know. This ain't for everybody. Welcome to Savagely Loud. What's happening, people guys? Welcome back to the show for the people that understand the facts, divided by feelings equals failure. I'm Cliff, I'm your host, and I'm joined today and always by Big Dave Anderson, the big bad Viking. He's in the house. But we're gonna get to him in a second because you know the drill. If you want to help us out, get these words out, get these truths out, you can follow me at Savagely Loud on Instagram, is where I'm most active. Uh I am, I have been. I actually, I can't say I'm gonna, I'm gonna start moving. I have been more active on Facebook. Uh in fact, I I adjusted all of my pages so that they don't auto-share so that I have to go to Facebook. So yeah, we're getting more active on Facebook. It's it's it's fun. Yeah, yeah. It's actually uh it's quite more receptive than I thought it would be. Um, but yes, you can follow me at Savagely Loud on Instagram. That is where I'm most active right now. On that page, you're gonna find two links. One of those links is to the Savagely Loud Podcast page. Please follow us over there because we've got some really big shit coming that we are going to announce in this show. And uh the other link you're gonna find is simple link tree. Anywhere you want to see my face or hear my bullshit, you can find it there, easy peasy. Outside of that, Facebook X and Rumble at Savagely Loud, YouTube at Savagely Loud Podcast. Please don't forget to like, subscribe, share it with your friends, and have them subscribe too. Because again, we've got some big shit coming, some fun shit coming, and it's gonna be on YouTube too. So stay tuned for the announcement there. Uh and uh beyond that, don't forget to uh you can email us in savagely loud at gmail.com. And don't forget to like, comment, and share the material. It really does help us out. It really helps get into the algorithm, break into the the the vault of the metagods and have them push our stuff out there. So don't forget to like, comment, share the material, and rate and review the show. Give us a great five-star rating and write a review on Apple, iTunes, Spotify. That another is another immense help. Oh, now that I've gotten through all that, big Dave Anderson. How are we doing today, brother?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

I'm doing good, brother. Man, it's been a while. It's been a while. You've been on vacation. I've been busy with vacation stuff too. Now we're finally getting back. And boy, we're we're bringing the we're bringing our our fans exactly what they deserve.

unknown 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

And I can't wait for it.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah, more of our shitty voices and our shitty perspectives on things.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Yeah, and while I guess so. But our beautiful faces, you know, we're gonna come, you know, it's gonna be great. And we'll just you gotta wait for the announcement. But yeah, y'all, if if you want to support me, you can follow me. I'm heavily active on Facebook and on Instagram at the hammer drops. I'm also on TikTok as well, doing some little bit of Norse paganism perspectives over there. Um, and then if you want to email me directly, obviously you can email me through the Savagely Load at Gmail email, or you can email me at David at the hammer drops as well.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Yeah, and speaking of hammer drops, you know, I see that you're uh you're starting to get a little name for yourself out there. People are starting to call you hammer. I'm not fucking used to it. All over the internet. It's hammer, it's hammer. Oh, we gotta listen to hammer. Let's go talk, check out hammer's page.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

Yeah, I'm not used to it. It's uh, you know, it it it's flattering, it is, but I I swear, like right now I hear that and it's just like it doesn't click in my fucking head yet. It's just like, oh wait, that's me.

SPEAKER_00 3:46

That's I just gotta get fucking used to it. That's how I am with Savage. Like everybody calls me Savage now. Like everywhere I go, it's fucking savage, savage, savage, savage, savage, savage. And even my friends are savage, savage, savage. And it took me a minute to get used to answering, to responding to that, you know, because I've had some road names before in my history, you know, and in the clubs and whatnot, yeah. But it was never nothing like that. But having to swing back into that mentality of uh answering to base what is essentially a road name, a surname, it is is it's it was it was an odd uh little endeavor, but it's it's pretty fucking cool. I I've it feels endearing. So anybody out there that like you know you've got a handle on Facebook or so, you know, your whatever your social media is, um, and and people start calling you by your tag, you know, or by by an abbreviated version of it, it's uh it's actually pretty fucking endearing. It's it's pretty neat. It but it and you know, and here's the other thing is like when I react with fans like when I see them in public and like savage, savage, savage, you know, it's like they you they look at you like somebody. Like they're they're not calling me Cliff, or they're not not calling me Cliff because they want to be disrespectful. Like they're calling me by the fucking persona that they've wanted to meet, you know, that they've connected with. And and not, it's not just a persona, obviously, you can't do what I do fake. Like you just can't. You gotta, it's gotta be in you. Yeah, I don't live this way, like I'm fucking all ramped up all the time, but you gotta be real.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

But I mean, we we see people out there that try. Oh, I've seen it time and time again. People trying to do that, and it's like, I just want to look back at them and just be like, stop trying, man.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Stop trying. The faster you just be you, the faster your fans will fucking acknowledge you.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

Oh, exactly. And that's something you know, people don't, you know, especially you know, for the follow you know, listeners and the fans and stuff like that. That's something that you when you skip to actually see behind the scenes type of things, it's it's completely different, you know. It's yeah, it's it's night and day, it really is. So we have to we we have to be amped up a lot when we when we do our stuff because that's you know just what how it has to be sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Yeah. Well, emotion doesn't come across if it's mu uh uh on a camera, if it's muted. Like if you're normally like, yeah, then this is awesome, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It doesn't come across, so you have to embellish it a little bit, you gotta turn it up to you know, turn it up to 11. You'd be like, Yeah, this motherfucker right here. Yeah, but it's the way you get the emotion across.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

But bro, you you don't you don't hit I mean you're okay. You say you gotta turn it up to 11. The way you turn it up to like 100.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Yeah, well, I start at 11.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Everybody else might be 11. You got cliff over here at 100.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Yeah, I start at 11. I start where everybody else fades out. That's that's savagely loud, baby. That's how you get noticed, like that's how you get your fucking opinion out there is you start where everybody else fades out.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Well, exactly. That's why you they they know you as Savage, the show's name is Savagely Loud. I mean, uh it what do you expect from this show? You expect us to be all like, no, excuse me, sir, but this is how you need to do this.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

No, I believe that that would pair beautifully with a wonderful Sauvignon Blanc.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

Yeah, so speaking of behind the scenes, guys, get get ready because it's gonna get fun for us. Because so the way we've been working the show lately, uh, we've been doing two shows a week. Let's get to some announcements. Uh we've been doing two shows a week. We we typically do a guest show and then we do a rant show. Rant show is just what we refer to, uh, you know, the intimate setting between me and Dave, and we just we just have our our conversation between amongst ourselves, you know. That's that's what we consider our rant show. Um, and and what we're gonna be doing is we're gonna be probably re well, we're gonna be replacing one of these two pre-recorded shows with a live show every single week. It's going to start uh what when when the 21st uh June 21st.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

June 21st Central Standard.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

June 21st, 7 p.m. Standard, Central Standard Time. Um, you're we're gonna be live on YouTube, we're gonna be live on my page, Savagely Loud on Facebook, uh Hammer Drops on Facebook. I'm gonna be building a Savagely Loud podcast page for Facebook to go live there. We're gonna be live all over the fucking place. So you're gonna be able to find us, and it's gonna be a great time. And the reason that we've decided to do the live show, like to really march forward with it, is because Thursdays, uh, my homie Troy, our homie Troy, he hosts the Motley Croc show. That's his show that he's been doing for 12 plus years, and he does it Thursday evenings, and it is a fucking blast. You got to check that out. You can find it Troy Troy Lilly or or Motley, the Motley Croc show. Just punch it in, it'll come up, you'll find it. Uh, and it is an absolute blast doing live shows. And I'm on that now every Thursday. Um, and uh it's just it's just fun. Like I I love involving the people that are watching, the people that the fans, the followers, the listeners, the readers, the all the all the terminologies for all the people that are involved. I love involving you guys, and it really does add a whole different fucking dynamic to the show, like an absolutely 100% different feel to the show when we've got comments flying up on the screen. We got questions coming from people. It it's just so much fun. It's so much fun, and it's so involving and engaging for everybody that is a fan of the show. So that's what we're gonna be doing. Uh starting June 21st, 7 p.m. Central Standard Time. We're gonna be going live. Um, we're gonna be doing some some little videos and promo ads and stuff about it. So you you if you forget, don't worry about it. You'll see it. We're reminded follow our pages, you'll see it. Um, but yeah, that's gonna be a blast.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Oh, I'm looking forward to it, man. It's gonna anytime we've done a live, because uh it's been fun, you know. Because I mean you know, it gives the you know, it's nice because the fans are get interaction, they get to get the questions answered, they can we get interaction.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

That's where my that's I'll be honest with you. My whole thing isn't like I not my whole thing, but most of the reason I want to do the live shows isn't because it gives you guys a chance to interact with us, it's because it gives us a chance to interact with you guys. Like we do our shows and we, you know, we've got our content and stuff, and we can only interact so much in a comment section. But when we're rolling live, we actually get to talk to you, we actually get to associate with you, we get to know you guys, we get to see, you know, who's who's in all the time, who's in and out, we get to see who's really supporting and who's just a troll. Like it really does give us a lot more depthful, you know, meaningful uh insight into to you guys. And it's fun, it's fucking fun.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Oh no, exactly. It's gonna be it's it's a great time, and then you know, not not even that, but I mean it's like it's also you know, you have that interaction between us and them, you know, we get to hear what you know what they're thinking, we can answer their questions, you know, it just bounce off that. Yeah, but you know, it it it also allows us, it's a great way to open up uh those doors for even more conversation, you know, with because we're gonna have people that are gonna be in the comments, they're gonna be disagreeing with what we're saying, and that's gonna open up those cover those doors for conversation, yeah. You know, so then this way we can hit on those topics, we can talk about it and address everything.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be fucking great. And I'm sure even in with the live, you never know what's gonna happen in a live. You never know.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Yeah, yeah, never know what's gonna happen. Um, other big shit we got coming. Missfits of myth is a go. We've all been busy for the last month, like it's been three, four weeks where we just couldn't get it all together between because it be you know, because we're all doers, we are we're all got shit happening. Um, but now that the the the schedules seem to have settled down a bit for everybody, Miss Fits of Myth is gonna fucking roll out to you quicker than you know. Um, the whole idea behind that show is it's gonna be me, it's gonna be producer Dave here. Uh, it's gonna be conservative ant, Anthony Ramundi, it's gonna be Troy Lilly, the Molly Croc show, uh, the real Huckleberry, Justin Stoll, and Bruce Callero. He uh he's uh does the Be Great podcast, he's the owner of Perfect Sports Canada. Uh, he does a lot of other things, and every single one of these guys that have come together for this Misfits of Myth has a true passion to actually figure some shit out, have a good time doing it, and show you that you can go do it too. Like if if you want to explore some some ruins, you want to uh explore some tail tall tales from history, unsolved murders, paranormal, supernatural, you can do it too. Because we're all just you know, like we're all just normal dudes, like we do stuff, but we're all just normal dudes, and uh it's gonna be a it's gonna be an incredibly good time. So stay stay out uh looking out for that and go follow it. Miss Fits of Myth. I I think I've got pages everywhere now. I think I've got them all built. Facebook, Instagram, Instagram, um, yada yada yada. Go follow those pages. There's nothing there right now or not much there right now, but follow them because it's gonna be it's gonna start rolling in pretty heavy. Um, but yeah, and then for the live shows, we're gonna, I think we're gonna bring in my wife to not on camera. She isn't she is not a camera person. She is not a camera person, but I think we're gonna bring her in to run the comments and stuff so that we me and Dave can actually have a conversation or whoever else we get it, because we're gonna have all sorts of people on these live shows. Like that's just the way it works. You never know what's gonna happen. Sometimes it's planned like to bring people on, but you never know what's gonna happen. We're we're gonna be in the you know, we could see comment pop up and be like, oh fuck, Troy's here, get him in, get him in. You hey, can you get in? Let's get it, and then next thing you know, Troy's here, and then next thing you know, Huck's here, and then next thing you know, somebody else is here, and somebody else is here. You never know how it's gonna work, and that's what keeps it fun. Like it's just it keeps it, it keeps it interesting because it's not everything's not so planned and dictated, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Right, yeah, it's not all it's not staged, it's not scripted, it's just it's 100%. You don't know what's gonna happen on that day, right? You know, those those shows, it's not like we're gonna we're gonna tell you, oh yeah, we're gonna have so and so on. It's just you're gonna have to come and watch the show and you're gonna see who's gonna be coming on because we we can go to these things in these lives where it's just gonna be me and Cliff, and all of a sudden, like Cliff was saying, somebody's in the comments that we know, and it's like, oh, we're pulling them in. You know, it could be just that quickly.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Absolutely. Yeah, it's it's that's the way it works, and it's gonna be it's gonna be a really good time. Um, so make sure, and the reason we're doing it Sunday night is because all of our research that we've done points to Sunday night being the best option for us. Sundays and Thursday evenings are the best times, and our friend Troy's got already got his show on Thursday, and we're not gonna trample all over that. Plus, I'm on that show, so it's we we we just do that's that would be hugely, hugely disrespectful, and uh we don't need to do that because there's no deserve for that. So we're gonna be doing Sunday nights, 7 p.m. standard, central standard time, live. You'll get updates, we'll give them to you.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

Yes, we'll be live and in your face. You're gonna love it, folks.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

So, well, now um we've had some big news come out um with a very publicized case, and yes, we have to talk about it because it doesn't make any fucking sense. No, none of it is. Oh, so let's just say the name Carmelo Anthony. Uh we're gonna have to get into this because you know uh for what? Like, why would you applause for a fucking shit bag fucking name like that?

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Like trying to play devil's, trying to be nice here, folks.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Oh, there goes Dave trying to be nice while I'm trying to not be. I guess uh here's the re the reality of this whole situation is I don't understand any of it. I don't understand everything from the the mentality that it would take to believe that somebody deserves to die because they pushed you. And this is, and mind you, we're alleging everything in this episode, whether it's fucking factually stated or not, we're alleging it because we don't really know. Like we know what we've heard, but as everybody that's listening and watching knows what you hear isn't always the truth.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

So we're alleging everything in this episode, but yeah, yeah, there's three sides to there's three sides to the truth, you know, the right, the one side, the other side, and right in the middle is where the truth sits. Yeah, yeah. So everything's alleged.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

I look at it like, you know, when when the case broke, it was, you know, oh my god, this black kid murdered this white kid for no reason. And I'm like, okay, shocking. Like, I mean, let's just be real, it happens all the time. Like, it just happens all the fucking time. And so I'm like, oh, uh, shocking, you know, and move on. And then details started coming out, and then as you know, and then and then it became a giant race issue, and then it polarizes the black community and the white community. And you know what? I'm I I I I I have no qualms stating outright my position. Like, I don't want to live in a black neighborhood, I don't want all the black people to fucking necessarily die. I just don't want to live in their neighborhood because their neighborhoods always fucking suck, they're always dangerous, they're always filthy, they're always fucking shitty. There's no restaurants, there's no stores, there it's a food desert. Like everything about it sucks. It's just we're being real here. I I can't not be real with you guys.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

And and folks, I I'm I can I'm gonna be real with you. I I work in the hood, I work in these communities. Everything everything he just said, I work in these is 100% fact. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, so that you know that's the real, that's the reality behind it. But it became so this case became so polarizing because at you know, what we knew at first was a black kid stabbed a white kid. So then all that does is open up the lines of speculation and assumption for everybody, regardless of what fucking color you are, regardless of what gender you are, regardless of what orientation you are, regardless of what financial status you are, doesn't matter. All it did was open up the lines for fucking all this speculation to just blow out the walls. So then we we deal with, I mean, it's been a year now, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 18:22

It's just over a year.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Just over a year since we've got fucking years worth of bullshit speculation from every single fucking side of it. Then it goes to court, and what do we find out? Oh boy, we find out that Carmelo Anthony was indeed allegedly the fucking pile of shit that everybody thought he was. Um, because from what I have gathered, what I the information that I have gathered, again, alleging, you know, not stating as fact, not pushing misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, none of that shit. Um, I've heard now that um first and foremost, he was suspended from all school activities and functions and was not allowed to be there.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Yeah, I I I heard that as well.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

That is that is number one thing that I have gathered is that he was because he was suspended from school for God knows what. Um I've heard sorts of I've heard I've heard a lot of violence. Uh that's what I've heard. I don't know if that's what it is, but the fact remains is that I heard that he um he was suspended from school, all functions and activities regarding the school, including that function, you know, sports sporting functions. Right. So he shouldn't have been there anyway, and he chose to go there. Then we hear that it wasn't even he wasn't even supposed to be in that area with those people on top of all of this, and he was asked by teammates to leave more than 15 times. He was told to leave, but asked and told to leave by teammates over 15 times, and he kept coming back to provoke a situation to happen. Then the situation happened, the open door happened, that was um Austin Metcalf. He had pushed him, from what I gathered, and it didn't even look like a violent push, like it didn't put him on his ass or anything. It's just like get the fuck out of here, that kind of thing. Like, get the fuck out of the store kind of thing. And he fucking grabbed his knife and stuck dude in the throat. So what we know, what we can judge, I think is what's that? Got him in the chest or chest, whatever. Um, yeah, chest. But what we can what what we can discern by that is that he meant to do it. He was he was cre he what what he was doing is he was making sure he created an open door so that he had a reason to kill this man. Why else are you bringing a knife like that to a fucking track meet at school? Why else are you at a fucking track meet for school that you're not even supposed to be at?

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Yeah, and see, that's the biggest question I that I had throughout this whole thing was why would even if he say, you know, because I know it's all speculation that, you know, because I've heard different things where he was competing for another school on another team and he decided to sit over there and all that stuff. So I mean there's there's so many different fucking stories about this whole thing. But regardless, the biggest thing is if he was kicked out of school, why was he there? You know, if he's not supposed to be participating, why is he there? Obviously, looking for an issue. If he wasn't if that wasn't the case and he was there participating in the track meet, then you know what tents are your schools, yeah, first and foremost. So you sit and underneath the tent of your school in the rain and all that stuff. You don't go over to the other schools and all that stuff. But the biggest fucking question I have if that was the case, why did you bring a knife in your bag to that school?

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Right.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Unless you had the idea that You're going to do something that's premeditated in my my eyes.

SPEAKER_00 22:04

Well, yeah. Well, and he's he's he's got a history of violence. I've seen all the fucking photos of him with that AK flashing the gang signs. He's he's been in trouble several times, from what I understand. That for violence, you know, violent altercations. And uh, and and I've heard, I don't know what it is, I don't know if it's fact, but I've heard that that is why he was suspended from school at the fucking at that current time, was that he had a violent altercation altercation with somebody else. There was some sort of violence involved and got it kicked out of school. So we've got we've got basically a guy that doesn't belong where he's at, he's intentionally causing a fucking problem over and over and over and over and over and over and over again so that he could incite a reaction. And then once he got the most minimal reaction, he used absolute death, deathly violent force to solve the problem. Like I conflict resolution. I did a video on this in my fucking on my Instagram and my Facebook. Conflict resolution is not strong with this motherfucker, it just ain't. And that is all due to the culture and the parents. Black parents, for the most part, as what we see, you know, there's a lot of good black people out there. I know some of them, I'm friends with some of them. They raise their kids to be proper individuals, to be respectful people, you know, just be humans. I know a lot of these motherfuckers, they're friends of mine. But when we look out and we see, you know, across social media land and newsland and all this other stuff, and then we start digging a little deeper. That is seemingly the culture. When you when you can't go into when you can't go into any neighborhood that is black and be safe in this country, which is a fact, there is no safe, like safe black neighborhoods in this country, no. Um, to which me and Dave live and work in several live around. I I don't live in a black neighborhood, uh, but I live a real fucking like you can spit throw a rock, and I guarantee you you'll fucking hit one of these pieces of shit, gangbang her fucking pants around their fucking knees, bullshit. Um pull them up. But yeah, when when when you look at the statistics, you look at the videos, and you look at the fucking reality behind living in America, there isn't a single black neighborhood that is successful. There's not a single black neighborhood that is wealthy or rich, there's not a single black neighborhood that's safe. There's not a single black neighborhood that anybody could just go walk around in and be okay. It's just that's just the reality. And that is a reality that every American has to deal with. And unfortunately, all the good black people, and I I want to, I'm gonna put this, I'm gonna say this this is the saddest for them, is the good blacks. They get the real end of the they get the real shaft here because they're out here trying to fucking make themselves good, make their family even better, make this world a good place, and they keep getting fucking attached to that shit. Now, I will tell you, it happens sometime on the flip on the flip side, but not nearly as often, that you know, good white people, we get wrapped up with the trailer trash, the fucking inbreds, the hilljacks, the fucking shit piles from the fucking sticks. Like we get wrapped up with them too. And but it's typically only in arguments. It's only it's typically only when some stupid motherfucker wants to bolster their argument about white people being bad. All of a sudden they're talking about some small town in Virginia that has like a population of like 12 and they're all in the same family tree. You know, that's when we get wrapped up, you know, like that family tree don't even fork, it's just a fucking straight line. That's when we get wrapped up.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Well, then they try to wrap us up in the whole, like, you know, the whole pedophile thing, but it's like then you throw it back at them, be like, um, your community seems to be going up in those stats as well. So you sit down and shut up.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Yeah. When it comes, I I gotta tell you, when it comes to pedophilia, I I'm internet famous. Like, there's a hundred eclipses of me out there on the fucking internet everywhere, saying you it's it's in this day and age, it's hard to go for a walk, trip on a rock, and not land on a fucking white guy trying to fuck a little kid. But the reality behind it is it seems like every fucking culture fucks kids. Like it's just every single one of them and every last one of them does it to about the same degree. When you really start digging into the statistics, Muslims fuck kids and blacks fuck kids and whites fuck kids and fucking Mexicans fuck kids and fucking everybody fucks kids. So like the pedophile, the pedophile argument, it kind of falls on deaf ears for me. Like, yeah, whatever. You want to call me a baby fucker, then call me whatever the fuck you want. That's that's not us. And I happen to believe that it's that's not you calling me that. Like you're not a baby fucker either. But we are both, no matter who you're talking to, we're both from cultures that have a history of fucking little kids. Something about humans and fucking little kids that just it just gets them going. I don't I don't understand it. I I never have, and I'm never going to. I'm not even gonna try to understand it. Don't want to because that's there's certain there's certain hard lines in my life where I'm a very understanding. I love to know the the the flip side of the argument. I love to know the opposing perspective and how it actually came to manifest and how it works and why you think that way. That one, that one of the that's one of those ones where it's a hard line. I don't give a fuck if you like to fuck little kids or want to fuck little kids or you think it's okay, or you start believing, you you start saying that we shouldn't look down upon sexual fucking this and that's because you just because you you're turned on by a little kid. That is a hard line for me. I don't want to understand it. There is no understanding it. You are an evil fucking monster, and you should be buried under the fucking prison after you're tortured for at least a week.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

I haven't go tortured at least a month. No, I'm trying to we don't want to keep him around that long.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

We we want to I I'm I'm full-time medical staff kind of thing. Like, let's just keep this motherfucker alive for the rest of his life and and keep it ongoing. I'm just trying to, you know, be nice. And I'm not gonna be able to do that. See, now you're being nice and I don't want to let people know that I'm a complete psychopath when it comes to murdering pedophiles.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

Well, now here's the funny thing. You're trying to be nice. I was just like, yeah, keep them alive a month, and I was gonna go, you know, you you know, you cut them open, you pack them up with salt, and you let them fucking suffer for a bit. You know, I mean we can get really fucking nasty with that shit.

SPEAKER_00 28:21

All you all you need, all you need is a bag of rock salt that you would throw on the driveway in the winter and a wrist rocket.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

It's all you need.

SPEAKER_00 28:29

I remember you told me about just fucking pound fucking wheelback that motherfucker and just let her fly. Let those salt rocks enter that skin and just sizzle.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Oh I'm all for it. They need to suffer. That's all I say. They need to suffer. Yeah, there's not enough you could do to them.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

And you need to staple their fucking eyelids to their forehead so that they have to watch you do it, too. So but when it comes to pedophile shit, the whole argument, uh and and I mean the reality of it, if we look in the statistics, blacks are on the fucking rise, like fastest. They're on the fastest rise in pedophilia charges. So I don't even get into that argument. I get into the more of the arguments of why can't I walk around your neighborhood without getting shot, beaten, mugged, fucking kidnapped, killed. Something. Why can't I walk around your neighborhood? And then that leads me into why don't I want to walk around your neighborhood? Well, it's a shithole. Why do you keep your neighborhood a shithole? Like we did a whole, we I've done a whole episode on this shit, or or several on like suburbia versus the ghetto, why suburbia thrives and the ghetto fucking dies. Like it's just there's realities that we have to deal with that nobody wants to deal with. Uh the reality of pedophilia is everybody does it. The reality of keeping your neighborhoods a pile of shit, uh, that's pretty much that's pretty much a black thing. I mean, like they they take pride. Sorry guys, but you do. You seem to take pride in keeping your neighborhoods as fucking dirty, filthy, dangerous as possible.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

They do. And you know, I did a video on that um and the the black neighborhood of Piggly Wiggly being shut down, you know, brand new store, brand new building, gone. I did a video of that. You can find that over on my uh Instagram and my Facebook account. And it literally shows.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

I mean, it's just well, and you know what's wild is that the pride, the level of pride is something that I don't understand and I want to understand because like I said, I've got a lot of good black friends. Like a lot of really like I don't even like I I have to call them black friends because of the what we're talking about here, but they're just friends. Like I don't even I don't even look at them as black dudes, you know, or black women. I just look at them as friends until we got to talk about situations like this. But it sucks for them the most because you know it's they they're the ones getting fucking called out by their own fucking race. Now I get called out all the fucking time because all the fucking all the heavy white boys like they think that white people are the only thing that should exist, this and that and the other thing, and they're on this crusade to make that happen. Like, good fucking luck. Good fucking luck. You got seven percent of the fucking planet is white, and you're you you you want you think words uh amongst the modern society is what's gonna fucking bolster those numbers, and then you think that there's some sort of possibility of removing everybody that isn't white from the planet, like good fucking luck. Good fucking luck trying to kill 93% of the fucking planet, you idiots. It's it's I I whatever. But the black family, the black families that I know, they get wrapped up into this shit so fucking hard by their own people because none their own people become their own biggest enemies.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Yep, and they we we're taking away your black card, you're not black anymore because you're gonna say we were seeing it with this uh Carmelo and Carmelo Anthony case. Like people like literally losing their black card because they don't support that kid.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

Yeah, it's wild how you can fucking ridiculous. You any blind jury, if you just gave them the facts, they'd be like that, and you know, you didn't tell them about colors and races and shit, they'd be like, That motherfucker's guilty from fucking moment one. Yeah, you know, and uh but but because race got involved, we've got all these stupid motherfuckers out here. Oh, the fucking law is racist. No, the law is not racist, the law is pretty clear. You're not allowed to stab people in a fucking chest. You're just not, you're just not.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

It kind of goes against um you know society norms. I mean, it I mean, if that was the case, I mean everybody'd be walking up to everybody stabbing each other in the chest.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Well, I gotta, you know, like I mean, I got the Slack friend, and he's all over the fucking internet, and he's he's got some money, you know, he drives nice shit, lives in a nice house, and uh we got all these motherfuckers from the ghetto, like literally south side of Chicago, like OBlock. Um, there's uh Yoblock in DC and all these motherfuckers. Like they're saying that he's a piece of shit. Wait a minute, motherfucker. How is he a piece of shit? This dude owns his own business, he fucking employs people in the community. He he fucking he he supports the local fucking T-ball team, he buys the Girl Scout cookies, he pays his fucking taxes. Like, how the fuck is he the piece of shit when the guy telling him he's the piece of shit ain't had a fucking job in 12 fucking years? He does nothing but sell crack to fucking kids, he fucking lives in the fuck in squalor and and poverty, he lives in the most dangerous fucking place in the fucking country, but and and it's all because he wants it that way. How is how is the I don't understand how the fuck you can say that this rich black man over here is the piece of shit because he's not supporting black culture, but then you say black culture is the worst fucking thing that anybody could ever fucking imagine. That's why nobody wants to support black culture because that's the way it's being put to everybody. White, black, brown, fucking yellow, it doesn't matter. It's all being told to us that black culture is exactly what we see in Southwest side, southwest side of Chicago, southeast side of Chicago, the fucking south side of fucking DC.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

Like it's what and and the thing is, I mean, it's the black culture is not like that. I mean, because like we've we've already discussed this. I mean, you have you know, black people in the in those communities that you know are god-fearing, law-abiding citizens that want not to do nothing more than make their lives better, and then unfortunately, you have that smaller group that they're even sick of, you know, that everybody is sick of that small hood mentality bullshit, you know. And everybody it's obvious. I mean, you have black people saying it, you have white people saying it, you have Mexicans saying, but it's just weird. Like, if white person or you know, if somebody else says it, you're racist. If uh black person goes against their own community and says, you know, that they're sick and tired of that ghetto ass mentality, now they're not black anymore.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

Right.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Yeah, it's like what the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Westcott Lauren, dude, he's fucking awesome. He's a black dude. And uh I all the fucking time, motherfuckers black, you ain't even black. That motherfucker look black as shit to me. Yeah, I've talked to him. We're like, we're cool. I I talked to him, and and he sounds black as shit. But he sounds like a respectable fucking human with a different fucking culture, with a different ethnic background. Like that's all it is. You're a respectable ass human being with a different ethnic background. That's the only fucking division that I could see is that you're just from a different background. Like you just you got a different culture. Like it's but it's not the killing culture, it's not the poverty culture, it's not the destitute culture, it's not the the fucking we got a stay poor, stay victim culture.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

No, and unfortunately, uh I think the the the the percentage of the community that wants the victim is higher than the people that don't. You know what I'm saying? It's I think it would probably be like a 60-40 split, maybe a 70-30, 30% people in that community that don't play that victim card all the time, or the accountability of when that comes to you, like we've seen with this case, and after the you know, he was found guilty. You see it right now, you see the victim card being played crazy. Yeah, I can't it just it blows my mind. It's like how can you you you finally it uh I'm gonna just say it finally we saw accountability within the black community, and now the thugs and the you know those with the mentality of the victimhood aren't happy about it, and that's why we see BLMs. Yeah, now we see BLM coming out of the woodworks like cockroaches. Yeah, you know, where have you motherfuckers been when it's black on black crime? Yeah, quiet as fuck.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

They just took all the fucking money that they fucking scammed out everybody and bought fucking mansions in white neighborhoods. I mean, come on, dude. Are what are is exactly how the fuck can anybody just I mean this shows you how this just shows you how stupid fucking people are, and this goes for every demographic. As soon as you fucking bring out a fucking, you know, uh you see you bring out an organization or a group that wants to be an activist and they're pro this culture. Uh stupid motherfuckers from that culture come out of the fucking woodwork. I mean, dude, I swear to god, every fucking time I fire up Instagram, there's a new American Nazi Party fucking firing up. And these white people are like, yeah, fuck yeah, let's do it. Like, you fucking retards. You don't even fucking get what you're looking at. All you said is all you saw is pro-white people and you were on board all the way. Oh god, it's fucking, it's exhausting. It's absolutely fucking exhausting.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

It it truly is, and it's just it's it's enough's enough. I mean, we we gotta stop. I mean, and this goes for I don't care if you're white, black, whatever. This goes for everybody. We you gotta stop playing the victim card. If you if you fuck up and you do something that you shouldn't be doing, that's illegal, whatever, that's gonna get you in trouble. Own that shit. Have the you know, you have to have that accountability. There's consequences, consequences for actions. Actions always have consequences own it instead of trying to play a victim.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

Well, the black community, especially especially in this country, has been being taught that they're victims for a hundred fucking years. This is generational victimhood implanted into the fucking pristine little hard drives of you know newborn black children for their entire fucking lives. And for the last fucking 30, 40 years, it's worked. Like any fucking time in this country that a black person fucking wanted anything, all they gotta do is scream about it. All they gotta do is say somebody fucked them out of it. It was the white man's fault, and they get everything they fucking want. But that is change, that has changed now, and it is continuing to change into a fucking world where we are going to now hold black, the black community to the same standards that we hold every other community. We don't let the fucking Asians run around making up all these stupid bullshit stories and then, you know, go out and provoke somebody to fucking to create a problem, and then they solve that fucking problem in the with the most violent and in the most violent way necessary. We don't let that shit get away just because you have had historical injustices done to you. Fuck everybody that wants to talk about historical injustices because white people were the first slaves. We wrote the fucking book. Slavic is the fucking root word for slave. That's white fucking people. Look at America in the fucking 1800s when the Irish came over. We were referred to constantly as Irish hards. I won't say it for the fucking simple fact of YouTube, but we were referred to as the Irish hard ours, the Irish hard ours. Yep. And we were mistreated, we were fucking enslaved. They called it indentured servitude. So you just, oh yeah, I'll take a room and then I'll work for you for the rest of my life for no fucking pay because you gave me this fucking four cent room. Dude, it's it's wild to think that anybody could fucking play victim anymore. The Chinese built the fucking railroad under fucking uh under slavery. Like we fucking whipped the fuck out of these people to get them to build the fucking railroad. They're not bitching about it. The Mexicans. They're not oh, the new Mexicans are bitching about it, but the the old Mexicans don't bitch about anything. They came here and they fucking worked. They don't, they're not bitching about how we own, you know, half of America used to be Mexico and you stole it. No, they understood. You bought it in what 1848, I think is what it was with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. We gave them $3 million or some shit for half of the fucking country that we now call America, you know, North America, you United States. And then we gave them an extra several million dollars so that they could handle their fucking debts that they were still behind on because they're terrible at leading a fucking country the Spaniards were. Like we bought this shit. It wasn't even conquered, it was bought, it was purchased. And that's why I don't like the the other argument is it it wasn't stolen, it was conquered. No, it fucking wasn't. It was purchased. That's a very different proposition. We might have conquered some shit off in the East Coast, right, you know, when we came in and we we reached some opposition and shit. The rest of it we fucking bought. We fucking wheeled and dealed our way into ownership of this motherfucker. We didn't just march across this motherfucker with cannons and fucking kill everybody. We bought the shit.

SPEAKER_01 41:17

Yeah, well, unfortunately, they don't want to, you know, people would understand that if they were actually taught that in school. And unfortunately, they don't teach that stuff in school anymore. I mean, we've we've done shows on we've done a show on this before, you know, how the school system fails the kids. I mean, and they fail them by not telling them the whole truth, they just tell them what they want to tell them to keep those tensions up, so to speak.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Well, and there's the other fucking the other the other weird fact that nobody ever wants to fucking you get you came here and fucking 18 something and you're fucking 14 something, and you just marched. Um, anybody want to fucking guess the ethnicity of Christopher Columbus? Because it wasn't some fucking European white dude. The saying.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

They're saying and truth be told, the first European white dudes that came here from uh what Norway, Iceland, and all that stuff in Greenland, um, they came here for trading. They didn't, you know, they didn't destroy anything.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

Yeah, we didn't Viking and kill everybody.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Right. They came here, they made settlements, they traded with the locals, and so on and so forth. I think you know, back in that time there were wars, and that's why the they ended up leaving eventually because you know they knew that or they went over, they went west into like Minnesota.

SPEAKER_00 42:30

Minnesota is Minnesota's got a huge Scandinavian population, or had it's pretty much overrun by fucking by fucking small umbrellas now, yeah. Folded umbrellas, but don't even get me started on that.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

I had family up there at one point, piles, had a cabin up there and all that stuff. It was great going there when we were kids and stuff like that. Now you can pay me to go there. Yeah, no, it's uh but but I mean I that's the point. Like, you know, we had the you know, you had the you know, the Norse back in the day that came here, made settlements and all that stuff, traded, and wasn't destroying anything, but then you had this guy called Christopher Columbus that came here what 1500 years later, mind you. Historical facts for you. Uh that's so that's not a legend. Came here after the Norse, and then all of a sudden you saw that shit happen.

SPEAKER_00 43:18

Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking wild. This is wild. And then and then you get the people that like, oh my god, Christopher Columbus was so amazing. No, he fucking wasn't. He was on his last this was a last ditch attempt to not get murdered by the fucking by royalty. He fucked up everything he ever fucking touched in his entire fucking life. This was his last ditch, and he fucked it up. He thought he landed in India. And it was had nothing. Whoa, I don't know where you fucking veered off with the fucking stars, but they didn't lead you to India, homie.

SPEAKER_01 43:49

No, you you went way the fuck off.

SPEAKER_00 43:51

The West Indies or whatever the fuck, you know.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

You went way the fuck off and you ended up over here. And actually, I think he ended up in the Caribbean first. Yeah, he's all. He couldn't find his head if unless it was attached. Let's just put it that way. He got lucky.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. He got lucky enough to hit land and then go, oh, it's just a bunch of brown people here. Let's fucking slaughter those motherfuckers and and capture this for the crown.

SPEAKER_01 44:18

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. And you know, and that's the funny thing that one one thing I would just wanted to also point out, like the this whole like entitlement and victimhood. I mean, it's always been there, but it's been a lot more prominent, I feel, since like 2020-ish, night, 2019, 2020. It's really fucking just came roaring back like a fucking lion. And the last six years of the shit, six, seven years, it's just it's it's it's it's time for it to end.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

Well, that's that's why it is it has ramped up because they always say things get worse before they get better. And in the last six years, we have seen black victimhood hit an all-time high, and it's because it's ending. It's because you know, and and not only is it happening because it's ending, but it's ending because it's happening. You know what I mean? So there the black community just unfortunately, fucking, or fortunately, ran into a wall of people that are not gonna deal with the bullshit anymore. I didn't own slaves, I'm not paying you for shit, and you weren't a slave. So why the fuck do you deserve this money? How is this money gonna make your ancestors' lives better fucking hundreds of years ago? It's not gonna happen. And we're not gonna fucking, we're not, we're not, we're just not gonna entertain this this idea at fucking all about giving away our existence so that you can, you don't have to earn yours. And that's why this shit, because they they see it ending, and it's just it's much like children. When children start getting the fucking notion that the rules of the house are changing and they're getting away with less, they start getting, they start trying to get away with more because they're latched on to that old mentality that they needed because they fucking learned. Well, if I if I if I cry about it and I don't get it, then I scream about it and I do. Well, if I cry about it and I don't get it and I scream about it and I don't get it, then I throw a tantrum and I do. If I cry about it and I don't get it and I scream about it and I don't get it, and then I throw a tantrum and I don't get it, then I break shit and I get it. This has been the black community for the last 50 fucking years or better. Well, and that's all coming to an end, and they're so they're they're just they're clawing at it fucking harder than ever to try to keep it because they don't just don't want to do the fucking work, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Right. Well, and you know what? And I think what we just saw with this case, um, with finally some accountability happening within that community. I thought it was gonna happen with that case that was in North Carolina with uh Ukrainian woman that was murdered. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

I thought I I thought for sure the fucking right under the rug.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

Yeah, that one's underneath the rug. This one comes about, though. This one, I think this will be the turning point.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

I think this is where there was that black dude that lit that one that one woman on fire in the on the fucking bus or whatever, yep, in Chicago. Yeah, it just keep sweeping it under the fucking rug. But as long as you have people as absolutely fucking racist as Brandon Johnson fucking being the mayor of giant cities, you're gonna it's gonna continue to happen, right?

SPEAKER_01 47:09

But I but but I think the like I was saying, the whole accountability thing now that the they're forced to actually own that accountability. I mean, we saw it. I mean, allegedly, you know, I mean, the parents of this kid couldn't even be there during sentencing, right? I mean, just let him fucking hang and drive hang out to drive, you know, just left them. Like, what kind of parent does that? You know, I I know when I was when I got arrested and I was going through my shit, my parents could have easily not shown up, but you know what? My parents showed up even during my throughout the whole fucking case through sentencing and everything, showed up. Yeah, what kind of a parent doesn't show up for their children?

SPEAKER_00 47:45

Yeah, I don't. I mean, I oh okay. I might not. All right, so if my kid, let's just say, if my kid fucking went just blew a fuse and murdered some fucking kid out of cold blood and no fucking reason behind it, and then tried to fucking make it this issue or that issue that we all know is bullshit. I I might just be like, all right, that motherfucker's dead to me now. So let him fucking run with it now. But the difference is that they keep saying, I love him, he's the greatest, he's amazing, he's wonderful, he's such a big part of the family. You can't say you can't, you can't be in both lanes at the same fucking time. You can't be out here fucking trying to claim victimhood because your kid fucking is you know in all this legal trouble, and then you you're not part of the legal solution for him, which we should touch on now because there's a lot of people talking about like, oh my god, his fucking parents, they just took the money. Yeah, I would have too. Like, I if if I was in that situation, well, for me personally, I wouldn't have taken shit. Like as soon as the GoFundMe came, I'd have fucking mailed that off to the victim. I'd have mailed that off to somebody if it was my kid. It's just the way it would have been. I would have mailed it off to somebody that did something better, some organization, something that did some sort of positive, because I'm not gonna get rich on stupid people supporting my retarded son. It's not gonna fucking happen. But the way they did it is yes, they took the fucking money and they bought a house in a gated community, from what I understand. They bought a nice new SUV, $100 and some thousand dollars. Like they blew through all the fucking money and then gave them a public defender. And everybody's fucking attacking the parents, like, oh, they they fucking, they, you know, their typical hard R this, hard R behavior that. And the reality is, is you know what? They knew he wasn't gonna win. Like they knew there was no fucking way out of this for him. There was way too many witnesses. It was it was way too big of a fucking case. The entire globe knows about it. There was no way for them to get out of this without some sort of giant riot breaking out. So they knew he was gonna go to the fucking can. So they were either they either say, hey, he's either gonna go to the can and we're broke, or he's gonna go to the can and we're we got some money. So we're gonna take that. We're gonna take option B.

SPEAKER_01 49:59

Well, apparently now the family's completely broke, like the parents blew through all that money. All the money, you know, and it's like now you're now you're gonna have taxes to pay on this house, which you're eventually gonna probably lose because neither of them want to work. I think allegedly the mother's um she likes to sit back and grab a sauce a little bit too much, you know, which is typical. I mean, no lie. But uh so now you're gonna pretty much lose the house. You lost your kid, you're gonna end up eventually probably losing the house because you probably don't want to work. Yeah, lose the car. I think they spent like 500 grand on the house.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Yeah, yeah. They blew almost all the money on the fucking house and the SUV. It's like how fucking dumb can you be?

SPEAKER_01 50:41

You know, any and these people are the kind of people that raise children. I that and that's what blows my mind. Like, even if I was in that situation, I mean if if I had a child and he committed murder, I I'm not gonna help him out. You know, you fucked up, go fuck yourself, you own it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 50:58

Figure it out.

SPEAKER_01 50:59

But in that instance, if you wanted to be a good fucking parent and actually help your child out, why wouldn't you hire a fucking like top-notch attorney?

SPEAKER_00 51:08

Yeah, go get Johnny Cochrane level fucking attorney.

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Yeah, you know, if the glove don't fit, you must have quit. You know, come on.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Yeah, but the fuck and the fucked up thing. The problem is we have video of him actually doing it, so right.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Well, we have the video, and then you have the witness testimony from the school, and you had allegedly some some uh black students that were there that witnessed what happened and plainly said plain as day that he was there looking for an issue.

SPEAKER_00 51:36

Yeah, he was there looking for a problem, looking to create a fucking problem, and he created it. It's just it's the same thing like that fucking chud dickbag. He he went out everywhere intentionally looking for a problem so that he could be the solution. That's a fucking issue in anybody's book. I don't give a fuck what color you are. You know what? If you're just walking around and you, you know, somebody is a black dude walks up to you and fucking pushes you on the ground and you're like, you fucking stupid, you know, hard R, that's one thing. But to uh to actually be on camera going, I'm loading up because I'm gonna go call these fucking chimps chimps and I'm gonna wait for one of them to get their brains blown out. That's premeditated fucking murder. That is fucking pro that is provoked confrontation.

SPEAKER_01 52:22

And that's exactly what Anthony did by having a knife in his bag. It's premeditated. He had the intention that he was going to harm somebody, just like Chud the Builder.

SPEAKER_00 52:32

And you know what? You know, a good take, uh, an interesting take that I saw recently uh from my boy Dominic Izzo, who I love to death. Fucking awesome. He's fucking rock and rolling. So is uh so is Rachel, his woman. Um uh Rittenhouse. Same shit. Yeah, Kyle Rittenhouse fucking loaded up and went to a fucking place that he knew there was already problems, and he knew that his presence there would create more problems, and he loaded up and went anyway. Yeah, you can fucking you can you can masquerade as a hero, you can disguise it, you can mask it as I was trying to protect my friend's business. But you know what? The insurance does that, you'll be fine. Like it's in in a case like this, situation like this, he's got insurance, and if he doesn't have insurance on his business, then he's a fucking loser business owner and shouldn't even own a business. So that's there's certain times where it's like, yeah, it sounds noble, it sounds respectable, it sounds honorable, but it's also fucking retarded because it's it's gonna get you into some shit that you might not be able to get out of. And the only fucking reason that fucking Kyle walked out of that fucking thing, that whole situation, I'm not talking about the legal situation, I'm talking about the situation on the street where shots were being fucking popped. The only reason he got out of that shit alive is luck. Luck. People will fucking say it's Jesus, it's the fates, it's the universe, it's him, it's her, it's this other thing. It was fucking luck.

SPEAKER_01 54:06

Yeah, yeah, because he got he got fucking bopped in the head with the fucking skateboards.

SPEAKER_00 54:10

Now I get it. Like I I watched the video like we all did. He knows how to use a firearm. That did aid in the luck, but the luck, the luck is you know how many fucking times do we do we see fucking professional fighters get taken down by nobody's? It's luck, you know what I mean? It's fucking luck.

SPEAKER_01 54:30

Yeah, every once in a while you got that four-leaf clover shove so far up your ass, and you get lucky.

SPEAKER_00 54:34

Yeah, it just so happens Carmelo and Carmelo Anthony wasn't that lucky this time. That four-leaf clover it took the day off.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

Yeah, that four-leaf clover is like, uh no, you're you're on your own over on this one. I mean, but I I can see that, I can see how those with those two cases. I mean, they're essentially I they're almost kind of the same, you know, like what with what you were saying, because Rittenhouse went there knowing full well what could happen, and that's why I said actions have consequences. Now, the only thing on the Rittenhouse scene is where you know, when he was walking, when he got attacked, that's where they were able to get the self-defense thing. On this one, literally, it was a little shove. Yeah, I mean, you cannot claim self-defense, there's no self-defense on a little shove, and then you stab somebody at all. There, there's that just doesn't happen. You weren't in fear of your life from a shove. You know, it let's just be honest.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Yeah, and on and and yeah, and that's a fact. And you know, and you're right, Kyle Rittenhouse. He he got clocked a couple of times, got put on the ground, and that moment it became a self-defense issue. Yeah, we still have to go back to the fact that you loaded up and went to a fucking problem looking for one. Like walking around the streets of Kenosha to which we live right by, you work near, uh, walking around the streets of Kenosha with a fucking AR as a fucking tubby little nerd, you're bound to get some fucking problems. You're bound to.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Oh, especially in Kenosha.

SPEAKER_00 56:04

And and also what saved Rittenhouse's ass is that he had administered some sort of medical health assistance to a couple other people before that. So I mean, there was there were certain extenuating circumstances that made the whole generalized thing different, but the root cause of why Rittenhouse happened is because he knowingly went to a place he wasn't supposed to be or shouldn't have been. Carmelo Anthony loaded up his knife and knew and went to a place that he knew he wasn't supposed to be or shouldn't have been, and it was all of it caused a fucking problem. It's it's just the fucking way it is. It's now if if we're we're not gonna you know embrace the reality of this, then there's there's no sense in even fucking continuing on with humanity.

SPEAKER_01 56:48

No, exactly. And I I I will say this now if the if this whole Anthony Metcalf thing was different, if it was more of a situation like what happened with Rittenhouse and when he shot, and you know, where he can actually get self-defense, then yeah, I would agree. Like if Metcalf actually did something outside of just a little shove, I mean, we see that all the time. You see that happening in schools. I've done it in schools, I've had it done to me when I was in school, but it never turned out that way. You know what I'm saying? If but if it got escalated to where you're actually in fear of your life, that could, you know, then yeah, by all means, you have to do what you need to do to survive, you know. And at that point, but a little shove doesn't warrant this type of shit.

SPEAKER_00 57:29

If Metcalf would have fucking charged him, grabbed him, you know, leg hooked him, and threw him on his back and started ground and pounding him, and then he fucking reached in his waistband and pulled out his shank and fucking stuck him. We're in a different situation now. Exactly. We're in a different situation now. But when you can walk away, you're supposed to fucking walk away. I know all you fucking super alpha motherfuckers out there, like I don't walk away from nothing. Well, that's probably why you're listening from prison, because you just you just never walk away from anything, you know.

SPEAKER_01 57:57

You gotta look it's not worth it. It just it isn't, you know. I mean, you just let's just be honest. I mean, two well, I'll I'll be doubles, I'll play doubles out of kid. I'll say this two families lost.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

Yeah, that's the saddest part. Somebody lost a fucking kid to death, and somebody lost a kid to fucking prison. Like these are two young fucking people that their lives are over, both of them. Their fucking lives are over, and nobody wants to look at that. In fact, officially Chains. Chains was talked about that on one of his videos, and he's like, Everybody's missing the fact that this is just fucking sad because two fucking people, two young people lost their goddamn lives. And and and nobody wants to talk about that. Everybody just wants to fucking pick a race side, pick this fucking side, pick that side, and you know what? It's a bunch of fucking internet attorneys. Where are all the internet attorneys when when when some real shit's happening, like some actual shit's happening, like the Daniel Perry situation, isn't that his name? Daniel Perry. He fucking choked the guy out on the on the train because he was gonna blow him up or something. Where the fuck was everyone where the fuck were all the internet lawyers then? When it was this was a this was 100% a clear case of not only self-defense, but humanity offense, like community defense, like where he was going to hurt a lot of fucking people unless I took him down. And I had the ability to, and I did. That, but nope, all the internet and all the all the internet lawyers were they weren't around for that one. They weren't around for the fucking mass shooting and the fucking black dude in the in the tunnels. They weren't around for when that when the fucking all the Chinese Chinese people were fucking got caught with all the fucking the bags of um the mold spores that could kill our basically our entire population and our entire farm crop. Like they all the internet fucking all the internet lawyers didn't have nothing to say about that, but let it become black and white, and then it's you know, then it's on.

SPEAKER_01 59:53

Everybody comes out of the war work then. I mean, we saw with that Perry one, everybody came out saying he was a racist, he was this, he was that. When he was literally trying to protect everybody on that train, yeah, most of which weren't white. Exactly. You know, he could have just said, Well, I'm gonna get off at the next fucking stop. Fuck it, it's not my problem. He decided to take a stand, you know, and then he's the racist, he's the evil person because he took out a black guy, you know. But when a black guy takes out a white person, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:19

Oh, we dude, there's fucking blacks all over the fucking internet right now calling for more of this. We I just saw a video he said we should wake up every like, I don't know, maybe we make it every Thursday or every Wednesday where you just fuck up a white person. Like, dude, what is fucking happening here? Like, this is the shit that we can't now. That that that shit happens on white side too. That shit happens on Mexican side, that shit happens on Japanese and Chinese and Korean and fucking Indonesian and Indian and fucking Turkish side. Like we all got them. We all got them.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:48

We all have them.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:49

But what the difference is is that more of the groups outside of the black community are actually hitting the fucking internet looking for unity rather than looking for division. It seems like all of the black, more of more so of the black community than not is looking for division. And that's why we're starting to see now that the segregation thing came come back up again. So back in the day when whites wanted to be segregated from you guys, that was terrible. That was horrific, and it needed to be stopped. And so that you guys, so then the black community fights against segregation to be integrated into the white community. And now we're at a point where, if you're gonna ask me my honest opinion, I think the black community figured it, figured out that they they they just don't want to hack it. They can. It's not that they can't hack it, they can get up every single fucking morning at the ass crack of dawn and go work 12 hours like all the fucking white people do, but they don't want to. So now it's to a point where they now believe it is the black community believes it's noble to call for segregation because they we just can't live together. No, you just can't hack it. That's that's what we're looking here. That's what we're looking at here.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

Well, yeah, well, then you can also look at on the on the flip side. You got the you know, the the the the part of the black community that wants the unity. You know, I've seen videos of a black guy walking through a white neighborhood. He's like, Why wouldn't you like this? Right. There's it's clean, there's no it's quiet, it's this, that, and the other. Like, why would you hate this? Why would you not want this?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:18

I see.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

I saw a video right.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:20

Yep. I saw a video of a guy in a in a gentrified neighborhood. Um, and he's like, he's like, I've lived here for fucking 41 some years or some shit like that. And he's like, I want you to look at this. He's like, look at me. And he's got the camera and he's panning himself around, and it's people walking dogs, they're sitting there having a picnic. It's like in a project, like an apartment building, like you know, down the city. And everything is super peaceful, everybody's clean, everybody's respectful, everybody's minding their own fucking business. He's like, Why the fuck don't we want this? He's like, This is great. I can walk out here. I'm not fucking, I'm not getting stray bullets, I'm not getting people talking shit to me. Everybody's just out here doing their thing, living life, and it's all amazing. He's like, but now if we look at videos and then he patched in videos and and camera and and photo footage of what it was before that, it was a rotten fucking shithole that was overrun by gangs and evil fucking people. He's like, I couldn't go outside. He's like, there were times where you couldn't go outside for days, for days. You couldn't even walk outside of your own fucking apartment because you would get taken down by your own fucking people. Why the fuck do we want this? There is a fucking benefit to be there, you know, to being somewhat integrated. I do believe there is a fucking massive benefit to tribal culture. Like everybody just sticks to their own, like they do in prison. That's how prison avoids all the problems, is that the white boys are over there, the fucking black boys are over there, the Mexicans are over there, the Hondurans are over there, the fucking Indians are over there. Like there, that's how they avoid problems. And the thing that people know, nobody really wants to ever acknowledge is that prison is human primal nature, it's human core nature. That is our tribalistic nature. And so if we look to the prisons to figure out how they're solving the problems with the intra community, you know, the integrated communities or non-integrated communities, and how they avoid the pitfalls of either or we could learn a lot from society, but instead, society just keeps shoving this fucking unity bullshit down our throat. We don't we we need to be united on a level of we hate the government and don't hate each other. That's fucking it. If y'all want to fucking, if white boys want to live in a black neighborhood, go for it. If black boys want to live in a white neighborhood, go for it. But the true unity, the only fucking unity we actually fucking need is that we hate the government together and we don't kill each other.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

I mean, if if there's one thing, I mean, one thing that can happen, that would be the best thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

You know, we could all agree, literally, that the government's out to screw us, either side, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:02

But people are too fucking stupid and too fucking arrogant and too cocky and to too egotistical to understand that they don't understand. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:12

And that's something you can never change.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:14

So now that's in their head. Yep. So now we've got Carmelo Anthony, a young kid. He's in can for 35 fucking years. Um, whether he'll get out early, I don't know. Um now there's a bunch of whispers like certain fucking gangs, like the AB's got a fucking hit out on him and shit, which I don't believe, I'll be honest with you. I don't believe the AB's got a hit out on Carmelo Anthony because he's a nobody. Like the the it's bad for business. And it was the same thing I said about Chud because all everybody said, Oh, he'll be fine when he goes to prison. Because I said he ain't gonna be fine when he goes to prison. I know white power politics, I lived it, you know, fucking two decades ago. Uh fucking I was all the way in it. Um, white power politics say that they're not gonna pick up Chud because he's too volatile. He's he's bad for business because he's way too controversial. He's way too public, and he doesn't believe what the fuck he says. That's the most important part is he's not in it for the cause. He's in it for the clicks. Carmelo Anthony, I don't think that anybody's any fucking white gang's got a hit out on him. I think that's a rumor that got started by black people so that they could continue firing up the black community. But the AB has better shit to worry about than some fucking nobody black teenager. Like they just they got better shit to worry about.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

Yeah. I mean, in prison it in prison and jail and all that stuff, it's it it is a business. If it's not good for business, they're not gonna do it. Right. It's not good for business to go after somebody like Anthony. He's a nobody, he's not a high-ranking in any gain or anything like that. So why?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

There's no why are they gonna waste their time? There's no want, there's no desire, there's no use or purpose in going after him. Not at all. Not at all. Just brings bad publicity to the fucking, you know, brings it brings more bad publicity to the organization. It puts him in back in the camera, and that's one thing these these fucking organizations want least of is to be in the cameras in the camera lens because they it's harder to conduct their business that way. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:16

And and I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that it just it's coming from his supporters saying this because they want to try to get him out for whatever reason, which blows my mind. It just it he murdered somebody, there's video on it, we've seen it, he's guilty. You have no leg to stand on.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:36

Yeah. I don't see any fucking leg to stand on for this fucking guy. I don't see any reason that any judge should listen to any fucking sort of rhetoric, because you know these they're gonna go through the appeal, and I get it, he's legally entitled to the appeal process, but we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:55

But I don't find any fucking well, and apparently in Texas it's very rare and it takes a long time.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll just drag it the fuck out. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:04

So I mean you'll be lucky, you know, he might get out in 17 and a half years. I think that's when he's uh available for parole. At that point, I believe he's what 18-19 at this point, so he's going to be 40 about the time that he may be able to come back out. And unfortunately, once you're in the system that long, you you you continue that mentality, yeah, he's just gonna come out, re-offend, go back. And that's that's gonna be his life, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:30

Yep, yep. So all right, let's wrap this motherfucker up because there's really no fucking there's no way other than to look at this whole situation as we need to stop all this division. You know what? I get it, white and black and yellow and green and purple and on rainbow and all these and all that. We're always gonna have reasons to hate each other, yeah. But we don't need to insert stupid fucking mental gymnastics built reasons to fucking find more division. We're as divided as we've ever been in our entire fucking existence on this planet together, uh, we don't we don't need another fucking reason. So we just try we're just looking at the facts, and the fact is is that he murdered a motherfucker in cold blood that didn't get deserved to get murdered. Maybe, maybe he deserved to get an ass whooping. Maybe did maybe maybe that. But murdering murdered, absolutely fucking not. And if you believe that this fucking kid uh out here deserved to get be uh to be murdered after everything, all the evidence we know, then fuck you two. I I I hope you do some dumb shit and end up in fucking prison right next chair in a cell with this motherfucker to find out how retarded he really is, so that you can find out your fucking hero is the dumbest motherfucker this side of the asteroid belt.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:40

Well, and it's funny that you mentioned the hero thing because it's always George Floyd.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:46

Yeah, why is it always the George Floyd's and the fucking shittiest motherfuckers on earth?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:51

And now this kid's on the pet that pedestal now too.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:53

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:53

And it's just like the you take the worst of the worst of your community and put them up on pedestals.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:58

And all it does is make them look even worse to all the other fucking communities on earth. Exactly. It's just yeah, so all right. Let them know where they can find you, Dave.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:06

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SPEAKER_00 1:10:20

And if you want to follow me, help me get these words out, get these truths out, you can follow me at Savagely Loud on Instagram, is where I'm most active, and I am have been becoming more active on Facebook. I'm starting to get uh I'm I'm really working. I am, I'm I'm putting a lot of effort into uh my Facebook people because I, you know what, you guys have been kind of um I don't know what the word is, but like kind of in the shadows a little bit, you know. So I want to I want to make sure you guys don't feel like you're in the shadows anymore. So I'm putting a lot more effort into Facebook. Um, so yeah, Facebook X and Rumble, Savagely Loud, Savagely Loud podcast page on Instagram. There will be one coming soon this week to Facebook. Um announcements to come, all that good shit. I'm butchered the fuck out of that, but that works because we gotta get we gotta get to reminding ourselves that some humanity still exists within the human with a little segment we like to call hopelessly human, and it starts a little bit like people can be lero, they can be quite tough, they can get in the way, but at the end of the day, some are not stupid, some are hopelessly human. Yes, they are, yes, they are, yes, they are. Some are homelessly human, and this one is no different. This one comes to you from FamilySearch.org. It's titled Rescue on the Plains. On 19 December 1894, Benjamin Housley married Clarissa Pauline Allen. Their fathers, George Frederick Housley and Marshall Franklin Allen, became close friends. Several years later, the two fathers were at a at Benjamin and Clarissa's home in Utah. They began reminiscing over old times. And Marshall Allen told uh told of the time when he and several other young men were asked to go out and deliver provisions and assistance to the Martin Hancart Company. Parentheses, a group of pioneers using handcarts to cross the Midwestern United States. Marshall recalls kneeling in prayer on the evening before their departure and telling God it was a foolish thing to do, going out in such weather and with no roads to follow. While he was still on his knees in active prayer, he felt directly directed to go, and that would be and that he would be able to save many of their lives. During the long search, the rescue party became discouraged, thinking that the handcart company had been lost on the plains. Many wanted to return home, but not Marshall. I told them I would go till I reached the States, but that I would um I told them I would go till I reached the States, but that I would find them. I don't yeah, this is for some reason that doesn't make sense to me. Anyway, about noon they found a group of handcarts with their poor, starving people. Thinking there might there might be more stragglers further back, Marshall rode on for some distance. Suddenly he saw a dark spot amongst some rocks. Upon investigating, he found it to be a young man. He wrapped his blanket around the young man and helped him onto the horse. At this point in the story, George Housley spoke up and said, The horse and the horse had one white leg and a white stripe on its forehead, and the rest was coal black. Marshall said, Yes, it was bright plaid uh it was a bright plaid but blanket. I'm butchering this, uh George added. How do you know? Marshall asked. George responded excitedly, because I was the one you found. He went on to tell how he had just lost his best friend in the hand cart company and been and had been very discouraged. George had lost all hope until he was saved by the determination of the young Marshall Franklin Allen. I want to tell you, if it hadn't been for the prayers of my mother and the faith of the Saints, I would not have lived to tell you to till you found me. And I never would have reached the valley. Acts of kindness can go a long can have long-term impacts even years after the act occurs. That is hopelessly human, and that is the show. I will see you later, guys. Stay tuned for some really cool shit coming your way. We are out of the way.