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Mastering the Balance: Radical Ownership vs. Radical Surrender
The tension between what we can control and what we must surrender to God is one of the most transformational shifts we can make as faith-driven moms and entrepreneurs. In this powerful conversation, Jeremy and I unpack what it looks like to take radical ownership of our actions, beliefs, and choices—while fully surrendering outcomes, circumstances, and other people’s decisions to God.
🌿 Radical ownership means stewarding our time, talents, and responsibilities well—without blame-shifting, waiting for perfect conditions, or letting fear hold us back.
🌿 Radical surrender is releasing the weight of control and trusting that God's plans are always greater, even when the path ahead is unclear.
🌿 Living in this balance is where true peace is found—where we take the next faithful step, knowing that God provides just enough light for what’s ahead.
If you’re ready to align your business with God’s calling—without sacrificing your family, faith, or peace—join us inside the Purpose Beyond Profit Mastermind. This is where faith-driven entrepreneurs come together to build businesses that honor God and create sustainable success.
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Hello, my friends, thank you for holding on with us. Okay, it has been a wild ride. Uh, never done a Facebook live with trying to add somebody, and there's there's lots of things you can and can't do and ways you have to set it up, and it's not something that, uh, I was prepared for, apparently. But that's okay and I appreciate you being here with us along for the ride. Um, all this that's happening, um, we're getting Jeremy on in just a second. He'll be popping into the live and we're going to actually do this. I think, fyi, if you ever try to do a Facebook live with someone, you both need to be on your phones. Didn't know that, tried my computer, tried his computer, tried some iPads, tried all this stuff. Don't do it, just use your phones, just get on. Okay, so he'll be in in just a second. So we are going to be talking about radical ownership and radical surrender and it's going to be super good. Might I have, might, I say now, that's a big promise. So hopefully it is, but we will see. We will see, um, but I'm super pumped that you guys are here. Um, and there's my friend, kelly. Hi, kelly, I love you. Thanks for coming back, even though we've been having some issues, um, and so, joe, we'll be here in a moment and then we're going to get this thing rocking and rolling.
Speaker 1:Um, we are going to be talking, like I said, about radical ownership and a radical surrender, and the whole purpose of this training is being able to decide and determine what is really our responsibility and what we have to let go of, and so that there is a tension between taking action and waiting on God, and so that is where we are going to be living today. We're going to give real examples, we're going to talk about some principles from each one, and it's going to be good. I'm really excited about it. This uh topic is really where jeremy and I both kind of intersect not kind of we do intersect on our teachings and in our programs, um, and so I'm super pumped to be doing it with him, so you can get some big vision, big picture vision with him. Um, he's very good at that, and then I'll get kind of into the nitty gritty of what that looks like on a day-to-day uh, day-to-day thing.
Speaker 1:So Jill's trying to get Jeremy in here. Um, he's having a little bit of issues, but that's okay. He'll be here in just a second. So we're gonna talk just a little bit about it, without him for a moment, um, without him for a moment. He's having a tech issue on his own, but that's okay, because God is good and he is full of grace.
Speaker 1:And my friends, let me tell you I'm assuming and I don't like to find the devil under a rock, you know what I'm saying Everywhere you go, but I really think that this week is going to be good and be a blessing for people. I came down with a cold and my uh toddler has been like extra whiny and he's not a whiny person Um, and both of our cars between Sunday and Monday uh broke mine and my husband's. Thankfully, he has a motorcycle so he can ride to work, and so I'm like there's a lot of things trying to come and make me not do this as present as I should be, but I'm still going to be here and I'm still going to be here with you guys. So I'm excited about it and the Lord gives us, he sustains us through everything, and so he's continuing to sustain me through this and I'm just grateful to meet each and every person that shows up here. So, jeremy, jeremy and I are going to be talking about this radical ownership and radical surrender, and he um, I've been working with Jeremy for over a year.
Speaker 1:He's fabulous, he's my personal business coach and we have learned that this is an intersection of both of our programs that we really can, um be a part of or that we both talk about, and so we thought, why not do this? We're both all about like building one another up and like in the community of Christ. We're not being competitive or any of those things and so instead we're, like, we're always talking to he definitely is always talking about something called mission partners and um um collaborations, and so we're like let's do this joint thing together, like this will be super good. So both ownership and surrender are necessary for a peaceful, faith filled life. We have to be willing to do the work that God's called us to and the place that God has put you in, but at the same time, we have to be willing to wait on him and where he's leading us and let go of things that are not ours. Oh, jeremy just popped in, so let me go ahead and grab him in here. It's happening, we're doing it. There he is.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:We did it.
Speaker 2:That was crazy, that was crazy, that was crazy, but we finally did it. 27 minutes into it we got it, we'll be so ready.
Speaker 1:Yes, we'll be super ready next time we do it. Can you see me?
Speaker 2:I can't see you.
Speaker 1:Okay, I cannot see you, and I don't know if that's on purpose or not, but I can't see you.
Speaker 2:Okay, can everybody else see me? That's the question.
Speaker 1:That? I don't know. That, I do not know. Can you see yourself? I can. Huh, that's very odd, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if there's anybody watching, can you see my picture?
Speaker 1:I don't see anybody saying anything. Oh, hold on, let's see.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go on my desktop real quick and see, okay, yeah, I can see my desktop real quick and see, okay, yeah, I can see my picture.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, okay, so it must just be me. That's fine, I don't need to see you. I know what you're going to talk about, okay.
Speaker 2:It says that you're. Kelly says you're super up close, but you are a little bit, so maybe if you just pull the camera away from your face that'll look a little better.
Speaker 1:I can't see myself. Thanks, kelly Cool. All right, okay, so I kind of already did the intro Okay.
Speaker 2:So this framework completely changed my life and that sounds like really dramatic, but this is kind of the framework, the lens that I see everything that I do. So we're going to talk about control and there's two sides to it. So there's the radical surrender and radical ownership. So I'm going to define radical ownership as taking 100% responsibility for the things that you can control. Let me know in the chat what you can't control. So those are the two definitions we're going to work with here, and just make sure that I got it in a way that we can see everything. All right, someone says yes, but it is backwards. Let's try flipping, Okay, so that's not going to work either. Unbelievable, this has been crazy. So I had to switch to my phone because desktop wasn't working, um, but that's the definition we're working with.
Speaker 2:Is radical surrenders, letting go 100 of the things you can't control. Radical ownership is taking full responsibility for the things you can control. So, for example, one of the things we can't control is this stream. Unfortunately, we can't control mark zuckerberg's platform here, um, but what we can control is how we show up right, and so that's what elise and I are trying to do in this moment is take control, full responsibility for what we can control, surrender the rest. And so what are the things that we can control? Let's start with the ownership side. What are some things that we can control? We can control what we do, we can control what we say. We can control how we show up. What are some other examples, elisa, of things that we can control?
Speaker 1:So things we control are we can control our action. You're talking about our actions, the way we react to other people, the when we, what we say yes to, what we say no to what we're willing to put on our schedules or willing to have, not on purpose. You're not trying to hurt people's feelings on purpose, but willing to say this isn't good for me, but I'm not responsible for your feelings. So that is some that that's hard, but it is the truth. We're not responsible for other people's feelings and so saying no, sorry, I can't do that thing that you want me to do.
Speaker 1:That is radical ownership, because that's not the way that our world lives and, especially as moms and um we know, everybody thinks that you can do everything, especially if you try to stay home and even if you work from home like people have feelings about what you, what you're actually doing in your life. Um and so, just being you know, you're controlled of your schedule, your emotions, the way you react to people the way you react to your family, your friends, any of those people that is on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so essentially we can boil all that down to you can control your actions and therefore you have to take responsibility for your actions. We also know that all of our actions come from our beliefs. So James talks about that that faith without works is dead faith. So we know that the works that we do, the actions that we take in our life, are motivated by the beliefs that we have, and so we have the opportunity to choose what we believe and we have the opportunity to choose how we act out of those beliefs, and so that pretty much summarizes it, like when you think of your entire life, what we believe and we have the opportunity to choose how we act out of those beliefs, and so that pretty much summarizes it, like when you think of your entire life. That's pretty much the things that you can control your own beliefs and your own actions, right? So what does it look like for us before we jump over to the surrender side, elise? What does it look like practically to?
Speaker 2:I know you talk a lot about boundaries. I know you talk a lot about taking ownership of your priorities. What does that look like practically, just real? I know you could probably do like a 45 minute training on that and your training did cover some of that. I watched it yesterday. But what does that look like practically to take ownership?
Speaker 1:So I would say practically so. Just, I'm going to give you two examples, like we're going to talk about your schedule just a little bit. You, like I said, you get to decide what you put into your life, what you say no to. So that means saying no to a play date that someone wants you to do Right, because you already scheduled work, or no to driving the bus on Wednesdays for church because your kids need to go to bed earlier than that. People may not like that, but it's a real thing that happens. And your responsibility, like we said, you're only responsible for your actions and your beliefs. It boils down to those things I would venture to say you're responsible for one more thing, and if you have young children, you're also responsible for them.
Speaker 1:And so if you're doing stuff, that is also responsible for them. And so if you're doing stuff that is going to hurt them not hurt them, like, physically, but you're doing things that aren't good for them that's your responsibility too, and the things that you do good for them, too, like that's your responsibility as well. So if you're in a season of young children, they can't speak to themselves, that's your responsibility, and you don't want to drag them through the mud or drag them Ooh, words, they're not coming out. You don't want to make them too busy. Okay, that is one of the things that I have done, and I do do occasionally, and I got to back it on up and do that so that your schedule is your responsibility. Your children's schedule is also your responsibility to a certain age, right, um? And then we also have to just trust that the lord. Oh, that's, that's surrender. We're not there yet, um, anywho.
Speaker 1:So radical ownership is stewarding what god has given you. It is your time. Like time is a finite thing that we have and we all get the same amount. Like people say that all the time, but it's still, it's so true. And so your call to steward the time that God has given you in the place that he has placed you.
Speaker 1:So your time, your talents, the gifts that you've been given and your responsibilities are yours to steward, and so we have to take ownership of that. And that means taking those things seriously and, like just with the parable of the talents right the one with 10, the one with five they took their responsibility, responsibilities seriously, and they made the Lord more money. Now you can't make more time, but you can be very intentional with your time, and so we want to take the things that God has given us so seriously and work towards whatever it is he's called you to in this season of life. And so there's a couple of principles of radical ownership. The first one is taking responsibility without excuses. So that means that it is on me to make sure that I do what God has called me to do.
Speaker 2:It's not on my husband, it's not on my friends, it's not on Jeremy as my business coach.
Speaker 1:It is my responsibility. It is my responsibility Now. I have people around me that love me and I love them, and they point me in a good direction. Having counsel is wise, but it is not on them. If I do it or I don't do it, that's me.
Speaker 1:Fear can't hold me back. I mean it might, but it shouldn't. Fear, excuses overwhelm will prevent you from being radically honored, from owning the things that are important to you, and so having mentors and people around you to help you push through that is super important, but you can't let those things stop you from moving forward. And if you do, that's on you, my friend. That's between you and the Lord. So just ask the Lord. He tells us to give us he would give us wisdom. He tells us that he will be with us through everything. If you're a child of God, then you have the Holy spirit. He's always with you and he's always listening, like the God who created the entire world, has given you a mention and given you time and given it to you. He's not leaving you to not do what needs to be done right. So just ask him to help you. What does that look like, man?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but God does. He definitely does. So ask him, especially if you're afraid or if you're making excuses, or if you're crazy overwhelmed, so go to the one that made you, go to the one that gave you the calling. Go to the one that puts you in a season that you're in right now, because he loves you and he cares about you. So don't let those things take control of you.
Speaker 1:Choosing intentional time Be intentional with your time, your money and your skills. You can do this, my friend. So that is taking responsibility without excuses. So that's the first principle of this, and so the next one would be. The second one is owning your emotions and your mindset. We talked about it a little bit a second ago. You are responsible for the way you act and the way you react, and that's on you. Things happen, life is crazy sometimes, but we get to decide how we respond to whatever comes our way. That's a difficult client child throwing themselves on the floor, a distant relative that has an opinion about you, a, you know, distant relative that has an opinion about you. Um, those things happen, you know, but how you react and how you respond is on you.
Speaker 1:God has given us the fruits of the spirit and he didn't give those to us just to like sit them in a bowl. That was a weird. Look, I'm never saying that again. That was horrible. He, uh, he didn't give them to you to ignore Right. They are skills to to work on Right, like peace and patience and kindness and goodness, like yeah, they're from the Holy Spirit we got to.
Speaker 1:We got to be willing to act those out Right. Praise the Lord, have him. He is with us all the time, just owning your emotions, your mindset, mindset. The lady down the street did not make you freak out your children did not make you yell at them like and I'm not calling you out like I feel, like I yelled at ash earlier. I'm sure I did. Let's, let's just be honest, um and so, but the thing is he didn't make me do that maybe he did something that upset me, but I, I these are my vocal cords.
Speaker 1:I didn't decide what I do with them, not, so it's just not putting your actions or reactions on someone else. Yes, that's not okay.
Speaker 2:So um, I know you're not done, but I just have to cut in here. So my emotional triggers, right, when I respond and I say you made me feel this way or you made me react this way, or you made me, what we're doing is we're trying to put ownership on someone else's life and we're trying to say you're responsible for how I act and you're responsible for what I believe. And that creates a lot of relational problems. I'm speaking from first hand experience. Right, that creates a lot of relational problems when you are projecting or blame shifting that's what it looks like practically at the surface level, right, is you are blame shifting or you are projecting the very things that God is giving you the freedom to express your own actions and your own beliefs.
Speaker 2:You are blame shifting or you are projecting the very things that God is giving you the freedom to express your own actions and your own beliefs. You are saying, actually, at least you're responsible for that in this moment, and that's completely unfair to the other person, but it's also unfair to yourself, right, because you are, you are, you are neglecting power that God has given you over your own body, over your own mind, over your own emotions, and to do that is. I think it's disrespectful to like the power that God has given you dwelling inside of you and giving you the ability to do things, and so I'm just speaking from first hand experience like that hurts. When you say that it's like I'm responsible for how I react, I'm responsible for my emotional react, I'm responsible for my emotional triggers, I'm responsible for how my own healing process and going to the Lord and allowing him to heal me and not relying on other people to do that.
Speaker 2:That's just a really, really, really powerful point that you're making there. So anyways, I didn't want to yeah you can keep going, but that was fantastic. Thanks for saying that.
Speaker 1:No, that's great. I'm glad that you cut me off because I'll just keep rolling and talking really fast and going. So I like what you said and I do want to just like caveat this Like people do bad things to other people, that's not what this is. Run away, run away from bad things, that's not what this talk is about. But I want to move on. Sorry.
Speaker 2:But it is right, because that goes on the surrender side, which is, you aren't responsible for other people's actions and what people do to you right, and what has been done to you even in your past right, but you are responsible for how you move forward from that right. So that goes into trauma, your past experiences, your baggage, the things that you're working through as a human being. Like, you weren't responsible for all those things that happened to you up to this point in your life, but you are responsible how you respond and how you move forward, right. So I think that's a great point of and I think that's why I love this framework is that you can look at your entire life and you can know that everything in your entire life fits on one side of the board or the other, even though it's a flip-flop board.
Speaker 2:Like, we do flip-flop things and we put things that we actually can control and things that we've been called to own and steward and we put it on the surrender side, and that creates a lot of overwhelm, which we'll talk a little bit. But we also do the exact opposite, which is we take things that we're supposed to surrender and we try to own them, and that creates a lot of problems as well. And so you can look at your whole life and say everything that I'm doing, everything that I see in my life, has to fit on one side or the other. And the more you are clear on what things should be on the surrender side and what things should be on the ownership side, the more peace you're going to have in your life, the more peace you're having your home, the more peace you're going to have in your business, because you're living by God's design. So, anyways, keep going yeah.
Speaker 1:Amen, I love that. Okay, all right. So we were talking about three principles of radical ownership. So we talked about taking responsibility without excuses, owning your emotions and your mindset, and then balancing strategy and faith. So this is taking action, moving forward that is aligned with God's guidance we talked about earlier. Like the Holy Spirit called you to the thing that you're doing, called you to the business that you're in, called you to you know your children, like they didn't appear out of nowhere, like the Lord decided that you were going to have them Right, and so it is our responsibility to be moving forward. We may not know everything. We probably won't know everything, it's unlikely. We'll know everything right of where we're going, but I would venture to guess you do know the next step, because God doesn't leave us blinded, or blinded Doesn't leave us in the dark.
Speaker 1:That makes more sense, doesn't?
Speaker 2:leave us completely in the dark.
Speaker 1:And so it's saying, okay, lord, I don't understand, but I know this is right, so I'm going to do it anyway. It means saying yes to things, even if they're scary, if they're aligned with what God has called you to do. And it means saying no to things that may be good but aren't in alignment with what God has called you to for right now. And, as a fellow gypsy heart, if you have one, remember that everything you say no to right now doesn't mean forever. Okay, there will be other times for you to do whatever those things are, maybe, but it's not forever. You're not married to any of these things. It's okay to say no right now and hopefully, to do it in the future. Right, so moving forward, thank you.
Speaker 1:So moving forward in alignment with god's guidance and knowing how and when we are human and we make mistakes and we make bad decisions and we hurt people, or we just don't know something and it's owning those mistakes, bad decisions or just straight out sins, depending on what you've done.
Speaker 1:Um, and saying that is on me, I'm sorry, and moving and pivoting, saying I didn't know everything, I didn't do the right thing, and saying, like it's always learning because there may be something that you do or you don't do because you feel like that's right. Right now you said something or whatever, and then later down the road you have learned and grown because we are always supposed to be learning and growing that you realize, oh, that wasn't right. And then owning that and turning back around and being willing to apologize, being willing to not do something like that in the future. If there's no way to apologize, um, but those types of things, just balancing the strategy of like learning and moving forward and trusting the lord is going to be there in those things yeah, this, I mean that's like a perfect segue.
Speaker 2:You mentioned the conviction of when you do something wrong, right, and how you have to own that conviction, in the sense of you have to take responsibility for the things that you've done in your life.
Speaker 2:That were wrong and are wrong, and the things that you will do wrong right. You have to surrender, and I was just thinking about this earlier today. I have to surrender my identity. I have to surrender my worth, because my identity is not something that I created, it wasn't something that was in my control. It was a God-given identity that he put his mark of approval on me, that he speaks a better word over me than I speak over myself. And so, even when I take ownership of the conviction that I have and I take ownership of the wrong steps that I've taken in my life and in my business up to this point, I also, at the same time, in surrendering my worth and saying you know what, but that doesn't speak a word over me that speaks higher than God's word over me. That doesn't speak to my worth, it doesn't speak to my identity that I am still loved and I am still pursued, and that God still has his mark of approval over me. He's singing over to me, singing over me tonight, like those are truths that we have to surrender to, because they're not truths that you created, they're not truths that you're in control of, and that's a beautiful thing, because what that means is your worth isn isn't in the balance, and I think that's what makes people try to own things that they actually can't control is they're trying to create some level of worth that they're not receiving and surrender to the lord, and so it is walking the line of the very things that you own in your life. You also have to do, um, the opposite reverse of surrender, okay, but that doesn't affect my worth as a human being and what God says about me and his love for me. It's unchanging for me, right? So I just thought that was a beautiful segue and something that Lisa pointed out in the chat just now and I was thinking about this exact thing as you were speaking as well that the Lord doesn't leave us in the dark. It says that his word is a lamp unto our feet, and the reason I love the analogy of the lamp is that if you've ever walked by a lamp I do it when I go camping you can really only see like three to five feet in front of you, like it's supposed to be down at your feet, it's supposed to be practical, like where is your next step? Right, and that's exactly what you were just talking about.
Speaker 2:The Lord will reveal the next step to you, and he allows us, he surrenders to us in some ways, surrenders in that he allows us to go down the wrong path and he allows us even when we know what the next step is for us. He allows us to run in the wrong direction and his grace gives us the conviction and the misery, honestly, of not living by his design. It is miserable, like I still struggle with that. I hate it. It's awful, like it's the worst right. To not live with peace and not live with purpose is not fun. If it was fun I'd probably still be doing it right.
Speaker 2:So the Lord, in his grace, realigns us back to where we were when he called us initially, which is taking that next step and Lisa pointed out in the chat, it's not a lighthouse, it's not even a flashlight that you can pinpoint 20 steps down the road.
Speaker 2:And I think that's what holds a lot of us back from taking ownership is we're waiting for clarity on step 20 when the Lord has already given us directions for step one. And if you are waiting for clarity on step 17 before taking action on step one, you're acting out of disobedience and you're not stewarding what God has put right in front of you. And I'm saying you, but I also mean myself included, because that's exactly what happens in my life as well. Right, I will get direction on step one and I'll be like but when I get clarity on step 17, that's when I'll step forward. And that's not faith, that's fear. And I think perfect love casts out fear. And the Lord, he wants to deliver his love to us. He wants us to accept and receive his love. When we receive his love, we can act in faith and take that next step and walk with him step by step. So, anyways, but do you want to pivot to the surrender side or do you have more things you want to say about the ownership side?
Speaker 1:No, I think that we can move on to surrender. I think that's great.
Speaker 2:Cool, cool. So surrender again, we're trying to map out like literally your entire life as it relates to life, as it relates to your home, as it relates to your business. Everything in your life fits on the surrender side or the ownership side. Or the ownership side, that overwhelm and anxiety creep up when you are taking responsibility for things that you can't control, and you typically stay stuck when you surrender things that you can control. And so that's when you're not acting out, that's when you're not taking those steps right, you end up staying stuck.
Speaker 2:And so let's look at the surrender side for a second. So what are the things that we have to surrender? First of all, we can't control other people's beliefs. We can't control other people's actions. We, even with your son, right, like the example that you gave of you're responsible for creating a schedule that's peaceful for him. Right, that's still your actions of creating a schedule. What he does with that and when he disobeys and goes outside the boundaries of that schedule, is still on him. Like little, humans are still capable of sinning, right.
Speaker 2:Like nobody has been taught that right Like as a mom, like everybody, understands that You're a human, is totally capable of sinning, and it is his sin when he's not, but you're still responsible for creating that schedule, right? So, anyways, you can't control other people's beliefs. You can't control other people's actions. You can't control other people's results. I see this a lot in business, like we want to, and as a business coach, oh my gosh, I so desperately want the results for my clients, like I want them to make 10,090 days and I want them to experience just amazing peace in their life. And I know the same for you, right, at least like we want the best for our clients, right. But ultimately, we can't fully control the results or the outcomes.
Speaker 2:And there's good reason for that right, which is you can't control your circumstances. You can't control God. Praise God for that right. If we could control God, that'd be awful. That would be hell, literally. And so what else can we not? We can't control even our own results, even our own outcomes, like I've seen myself be so unfaithful in my own actions, in my own ownership, and yet God was so gracious and delivered ridiculous results and outcomes in my life and my business.
Speaker 2:And it's like I think Paul speaks to this in Romans too. He's like well then, are we like alleviated from responsibility? Then Like if God does something amazing with our terrible actions, and he says by no means right, god is sovereign, right, and so he's the one. And I think Paul talks about this in man I don't remember where it is, but it says he planted Apollos water, but God caused the growth. And so, yes, you have the responsibility to plant and to water, but it's God who causes the growth. Right, and so that's another thing we have to surrender is even our own results. What are some examples for you, elise, when you're going through this from a mom perspective, of what does surrender look like in your beliefs, in other people's beliefs, in other people's actions, in other people's results, even in your own results? What does that look like?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely so, when you were talking about that verse. So, when you were talking about that verse, you know, I plant all those waters and God makes the growth. Like that gave me such freedom whenever I've read that, like I am not responsible, just like what you were saying, I am not responsible for what happens after I've been obedient. Right, I did my part, and then it's the Lord or it's that other person. So I just wanted to say I really love that. So, anywho, um, I would say from a mom perspective and this is from talking to other mothers who are way further than I am, right, I only have a two and a half year old and so like, but I just we're building the boat while we're, while we're sailing, right, I don't know what I'm doing, but, like, for mothers who are much older than me and know have older kids, it's like you do the work when they're little, when they're teenagers, when they're whatever, to disciple them, to pour into them, and you do that because that's on you, but it is their responsibility to come to Christ. Like that's not on you. And so, as much as, like we were talking about, we want the results for other people, like if I could just shake some people and have them come to jesus, like I would be shaking everybody, right.
Speaker 1:And so I would say that's the same with our children. We're going to do the work that needs to be done, but then that's between them and the lord, you know. So that's something that's a burden that can be lifted from us. It's not an excuse. We do the work like we were talking about, but it is something that is not. It doesn't need to weigh heavy on you, because that's between them and the Lord.
Speaker 1:We pray for them. We pray for them a lot. We pray for them a lot, anywho. And then a very practical example is this summit right, so I put all the work into it. I did what God has asked me to do and I feel like he really wanted me to do this, like all the steps just laid out the way it was supposed to. Here we are, but like I didn't get to control who showed up, and I wanted to control who showed up and I asked for something and I didn't necessarily get it, but that's okay, because I trust that god has that in his hand and the right people are showing up at the right time, and it's been so amazing, and so I it's not my responsibility to make the people come right.
Speaker 1:I did what I was supposed to do and here here are, the right people are, and so I'm so happy that everyone who is here is here, and it's been such a blessing, and so that is very practical in your business. And so, as you are making the offer or making this or trying to make the sales or doing whatever offering that lead magnet, you have to do the work to the point where you've done all you can do that God has called you to do. Not everything you've done. There's a million things that I don't need to be doing, that I could be doing, but if that's in alignment with God, like we talked about earlier, and then you let the next, what follows? You leave that on him.
Speaker 1:How many people sign up for your opt-in? How many people say yes to your offer? How many people show up to your summit? If you do something like this, if you're you know, if you're, hopefully prayerfully, your children grow up to love and know the Lord right and be your friend. That's my hope. Right to love and know the lord right and be your friend. That's my hope, right friend and know the lord.
Speaker 1:Know the lord. First, he doesn't need to be my friend, but uh, and then you know, there, that's, those are some. And then if you're more in like your, if you're just like regular life, right, if you have a difficult conversation that you have to have with a family member or a friend and you know that it needs to be done and you do it, that surrender looks like not doing something because you're afraid of the outcome. If you're supposed to do it, you need to do it. If it's because you've done something, or if they've done something, you go to your brother and your sister or your sister and you try to fix that relationship. And if they are not willing to have it be fixed, then that's not on you. That's a hard thing to let go of, but it is not your responsibility. You are not in control of their feelings. They are responsible for that. You have been called to go to them with whatever it is that the problem may be, if it's on your side or their side that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm just like, as you're talking, just like reflecting on my own life of like moments where I had to surrender because I wanted to know what I want, guaranteed what the outcome would be before I took the action and not actual surrender like Surrender takes risk, because it requires trust, not really in other people, it requires trust in the Lord that he actually will do things that are better than what I can ask or imagine.
Speaker 2:And a lot of times I get images in my mind of what I think would be best for me or what I think would be best for other people and I try to manipulate and control that to receive the outcome that is in my mind and it ends up being really manipulative.
Speaker 2:I think that's why, like from a business perspective, like people are so icked out, like by marketing, is marketing most of the time feels really manipulative when you are trying to control outcomes. And in business, when you are trying to control outcomes and in business, when you are having a partnership, like we have Elise, or you're having um, let's a sale right. Like we're making an offer, right, you're having a sales conversation and you make an offer, the other person on the other side of that screen or phone call or in-person meeting or however you're making the offer, um, or on that sales page, has a legitimate option. Otherwise it's not an offer. You could tie them up and make them come to your summit theoretically, but if you're legitimately making an offer, they genuinely have an option to decline, and so you literally have to give someone space to say no. When you're living by this framework, you literally have to give space for someone to say no and to be, okay with that and to trust that God is still good in that.
Speaker 2:And I think what we like to do is we like to have guaranteed results of like, well, I'm going to make $10,000 in my first 90 days of business, right, and it's like, well, those are other human, those would be human, those would be human beings who would be giving you that $10,000 because of the value that you provided. Right, who are making conscious decisions. Right, like it's not all up to you. Right, on whether or not someone takes your offer or not. Like you're responsible for making offers. You're responsible for showing up, like you have so eloquently on the summit, like throughout the summit, and like showing up in so many different ways at least like I've seen you, oh my goodness, show up, and I've talked to you about this privately. Just like it's amazing. Just I'm going to go a little rabbit trail here Like what Elise is able to do in two hours is absolutely incredible when she sits down and she literally just takes the next step. Like people like me and a lot of people that I've worked with, we can talk about all the steps, and like we can talk about step 17,. Like we're talking about earlier, but when you actually sit down. It's amazing what you can do in two hours when you know what the next step is and you're just focused on doing that Right, and then, when you take that step, the next step becomes more apparent.
Speaker 2:But going back to surrender, when you are taking those steps, a lot of times it requires cooperation and collaboration with other individuals again, who have the ability to say no, the ability to choose not to work with you, the ability to have their own boundaries, which is a beautiful thing. And so, even when we think from a marketing perspective, it's not. How can we make people give us money? It's not even how can we make money. I think the only people who can actually make money is the government. I don't really think that's entirely fair, but they literally make money. You can't make money out of thin air. What you can do is you can offer value and you can allow people to choose to work with you or not, and I think that's a way more fun way to do business than trying to manipulate and control results. Anyways, I don't know if you have anything else you want to say about surrender, but those are my thoughts. We can move forward or anything else you want to say.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So just briefly, I want to talk about what surrender really means Underneath and I'm sure we've already touched it, but'm looking at my notes I'm gonna just make sure we're not missing anything. Um, it means really trusting that god's plans are better than ours, right, and so that can be. That's letting go of control, which is an illusion. Right, we've touched on that a little bit. We think that we have all of this control, but we, honestly, we don't.
Speaker 1:Um, we can make our plans, but god's the only one that really knows where, what's happening and what's going to take place. And so it's knowing and believing that the god that you say that you serve has the best intentions for you. So, as you're living your life out and you know you need to be letting go of whatever the results are, can you honestly say I trust you, lord, with this thing that's happening right now? I know that your intentions, your plans, are better than mine in mind, and that's a. It can be a hard place to be, um, because we want to be in control, like I want to know what's up, I want to know what's next, I want to make things happen, like you were talking about, jeremy. It becomes manipulation when we start trying to make things happen instead of just trusting that god has it figured out. Like the you know, especially when you get to a point where there's nothing, you can do right.
Speaker 1:So whenever the you know, the god that we serve parted the red sea, there was no other plan, but they had to be surrendered and he made a way. And so, like there's always a way, god is making a way and if we are, you know, called according to his purpose and man I think I'm butchering this but everything is for our good and for his glory, for those who love him. Right, and you may not feel good or sound good or seem good, but it is, my friend, it really is. There's this little side, anecdotal thing, right, my, the last place we lived excuse me, the last place we lived a hurricane came through and took away our house. Did that feel good? No, it sure didn't. But a lot of things happened after that, little things that happened. And where we are now would have never taken place if that wouldn't have happened. And God worked that catastrophe out for our good. Like we live in a new town, we have new people and I love those people in that town. Like, don't get me wrong, but we needed to be where we are right now. God worked that out for my good and for his glory and a lot of good things have come from that. But I wouldn't have said, oh, this is a good thing.
Speaker 1:I remember crying and being like why am I so upset? I know the Lord is going to take care of this, but even Jesus cried. That's more anecdotal things. He cried whenever he found out his friend died and he definitely knew things were going to be better. So it's to have emotions. This is definitely a rabbit trail. It's definitely okay to have emotions and be upset about whatever the situation is. God can handle that and jesus cried and he's the one that raised lazarus from the dead like he knew it was gonna work out my friend, and so I can have my feelings too and also trust him. So they don't go they're not usually exclusive Like have your feelings and trust the Lord. Ok, well, I'm sorry, so good.
Speaker 2:Can I just speak to the Christian mom? You're like watching this right now, because I think everything you just said is so applicable for those of you are watching. What the Lord has done in your life has been intentional and it's not wasted, and even the trials that you have faced and are facing your life will be redeemed for good. And the reason that james says to count it all trials, to count it um, um, count it joy when you meet trials of various kinds is because of what elise just said because he will work it out for your good. And I get to work with purpose-driven entrepreneurs like Elise all the time and I see how the Lord uses and Lisa Wachick has been commenting throughout this live she talks a lot about this too which is the Lord often uses our weaknesses to show his strength.
Speaker 2:The Lord often uses the weaknesses to show his redemption, and Lord often uses the weaknesses to show his redemption and he wants to redeem, even through your business, like the way. The people that you're called to serve typically are people who are relating to the weaknesses that you face in your life. And when you hide the weaknesses in your life and you hide the trials in your life, you're hiding the redemption that God wants to expose to the people he's called you to serve, and so it's a beautiful, beautiful thing when you do what Elise just did and what we try to do All of us is to be honest about our. You know the upsetness right of losing a house For me, I lost my business the sadness of those experiences, but also to trust that God uses that A lot of times, even in business, as some of us are coaches or selling products or selling services, like a lot of those. When you trace it back to its origin, you have been equipped through the difficulties that you face in your life and he's literally used that, and it's so incredible when you get to walk in that and you get to help other people experience the same type of redemption the Lord gave to you through other people and through your experiences.
Speaker 2:So I just want to say that for anybody watching who's discouraged and feels like an imposter because of the trials that they're still facing in their life, and to say that you are on this journey like we all are, and that the Lord is redeeming, that you are on this journey like we all are and that the Lord is redeeming. And on this side of heaven, we just get to get little glimpse after little glimpse, after many resurrection after many resurrection that points us towards heaven, that points us towards Christ. And so don't give up when you face the next trial like there will always be trials in your business, there will always be trials in your life. Just know that the Lord is going to use that to equip you and he's going to bring redemption through it. So anyways, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I love that. Perfect, perfect, okay. So let's move on to like practical application. We're going to call this living in the tension of ownership and surrender, so like daily practices for ownership and surrender. The first one I would say is definitely we've talked about this a little bit, prayerfully, discerning what is yours to act on and what is God's to handle, and so that line may be not always as clear as we want it to be, but that we go back to having the Holy Spirit and trusting that, even when it doesn't make a lot of sense, doing what he says is right. Right, it may feel like you have to do something next to move yourself forward, but if God says to wait, then it is your responsibility to wait. So living in that tension and that requires us living in communion with the Lord all the time right Talks about praying without ceasing, knowing and staying in communication with him, asking him to be in all of your decisions, not just the little ones or the big ones, and just prayerfully discerning these things.
Speaker 2:You have something to say about that uh, well, one of the things that just stuck right out to me as soon as you said how do you live in the tension. One thing that's been really helpful for me um, I've been like on this emotional health journey. Um, we talked a lot about like about the baggage and the trauma that we've all faced, like in our lives, whether it's through our businesses or lives, or or even in our home and relationships. One of the things that's really been helpful for me and it goes back to what you're talking about the emotions is drawing like this quadrant on a piece of paper and just writing like. So you have four boxes and in one box you just write everything that you're glad about, and then, in another box, write down everything that you're sad about, and then in another and just take like two minutes for each of these, and then in another box, write down everything you're mad about, and then, in another box, write down everything you're anxious about and just be totally transparent and honest about where you really are and where you're coming from and the emotions that you have, the desires that you have, the thoughts that you have, without judgment, just writing those down freely, and they also show a lot about where your heart really is, because the goal is not to like fake it till you make it to where you have, like perfect ownership and perfect surrender. The goal is to be where you're really at and allow the Lord and the Holy Spirit to shine a reflector or a mirror so you can see yourself more clearly. And so, when you're more aware of where you're really at just emotionally I think this is just one avenue but when you're more aware of where you're at emotionally, you can see areas that the Lord might want to speak to you. You can see maybe an invitation for the Lord to meet you there. You can see even some of the sinfulness in your own heart, like the things you're anxious about.
Speaker 2:You can kind of see a lot of times anxiety comes from trying to take responsibility for something you can't control. Right, for the other people, the little people in your life right, that you're called to be a parent to right, and there's so much anxiety that can come from that. And I think ultimately, if we chase it back far enough, it's surrender. Surrender, though, even the people in your life that you're called to um be influencing um, even in business, right, same idea Surrender the other person in that partnership, surrender the other person, um, on that sales call, surrender who's going to show up to the summit?
Speaker 2:Surrender what comes out of this zoom live that Lisa and I are doing right now? Right, and just show up and be yourself and allow the God and other people to meet you where you're really at. That's one, that's one helpful tool that I've used to kind of see where I'm at on the surrender ownership side of things. Do you have another one? At least? Because I gotta. I gotta brainstorm if there's another another tool, um I don't have anything super practical like that.
Speaker 1:No, I love that. I think that's wonderful and very um intentional to like get out your emotions and your your feelings on paper. Uh, just giving them to the lord? No, I do not have any tools like that.
Speaker 2:Another one, if I may, another one on the ownership side is we really like to focus on? Like if I have more time, then I'll move forward with hiring a coach. If I have more money, then I'll invest in my purpose beyond profit. Those are objections that, like I get a lot, it's like if the circumstances change, then I'll invest in my purpose beyond profit. Those are objections that, like I get a lot, it's like if the circumstances change, then I'll take ownership, and I don't think that that is 100% faithful obedience all the time.
Speaker 2:I think what the Lord often calls you to invest first, like as entrepreneurs, our job is to provide value first before we ask for people to match that level of value right. And so the whole point of this like free summit that Elise has been doing and the free resources that we create is we want to provide value first before we ever make an offer, before we ever ask for money, before we ever ask for someone to match an investment. Like our goal is to be faithful, to deliver the value that God has deposited inside of us and the work that he's done inside of us, whether or not people pay money for that down the road or not. And so I see a lot of people, including myself at times, who will really hold back and not take that leap of faith and not invest their treasure where they want their heart to be. And I think Matthew six is like clear about that like where your treasure is there, your heart will be also. It's this idea of a really practical way to lead your heart into peace and into purpose is putting your treasure there right, investing your time, investing your energy, investing your money in the place where you want your heart to grow.
Speaker 2:And we so often get distracted by shiny objects of people promising other outcomes and other results, and so if you live there, you will be sold by a million different things because there's a million different ways of making money until you take full ownership of the gifting and the deposit that God has already put in your life. So when we, elise and I, make an offer for you to work with us, it's going to be in alignment not with making you more like me or making you more like Elise, but taking full ownership of your unique gifting and your unique calling and acting on that and stewarding that and walking in that day by day. That's what stewardship looks like. It's not waiting for the circumstances to change. It's not waiting for other people to change. It's you taking the next step, anyways?
Speaker 1:back to you, lisa. Absolutely, that was super good. So I know that we have covered so much and hopefully you're walking away with a fresh perspective of what it looks like to really radically own your responsibilities and radically surrender in obedience with the Lord. But I also know that staying in the balance isn't always easy and it's really hard to do by yourself and, like Jeremy was just talking, about we are going to make you an offer, and that is what I'm going to do right now, right?
Speaker 1:So Jeremy has had the Purpose Beyond Profit Mastermind for a long time two years, if I'm correct. I guess it's not that long, but long enough, right? Anywho, now I'm correct, I guess it's not that long, but long enough, right? Anywho, now I'm just rambling and I have just joined and partnering with him inside of this mastermind, and so I've been in it for a year and I'm officially going to start helping, doing some office hours and some coaching, and my course is going to be inside of there as well, and so I love it so much.
Speaker 1:I am where I am now because of the Lord, but the people that God has placed in my life, jeremy included.
Speaker 1:I did not know where I was going or what I wanted to do.
Speaker 1:Well, I kind of had like a million ideas and I asked the Lord to send me the right person, and Jeremy ended up in my inbox and he just offered me a coaching call. And I was the Lord to send me the right person. And Jeremy ended up in my inbox and he just offered me a coaching call and I was like, oh okay, and I got on there and it was great and I hired him and I haven't left right, so totally worth every penny that I've ever spent, and I love, love, love him and his wife Isabella. They're a fabulous team and they really care about people, and so what we are offering you together now get down on part of the team, um is the purpose beyond mastermind. This thing that is, uh, fabulous, and it is for faith-filled entrepreneurs, um, who are serious about getting or growing a purpose-driven business without sacrificing your faith or your family or your peace, right? So I'm going to let Jeremy explain what exactly is inside of it, because he can do that better than me, yeah.
Speaker 2:I, this mastermind, um was not something that I thought up, um two and a half years ago. Um, this has been me taking action step-by-step, in faith, and coming to this point, um, where the Lord was giving me frameworks for how to love people through business. Before that, I ran a marketing agency that was all about making money. It was all results focused, and speak of the overwhelm and anxiety I'm speaking from firsthand experience throughout this whole training Like this has been something that the Lord has taught me personally and has been redeeming inside of me personally, and I'm still on that journey.
Speaker 2:But I started to launch these little coaching cohorts that I would take people through my course and I would coach them through all the way from, like what is your purpose beyond profit? To how do you communicate your business mission, to how do you land clients, to how do you build systems, to how do you build strategic partnerships to grow your business mission. To how do you land clients. To how do you build systems, to how do you build strategic partnerships to grow your business, to how you lead your team holistically. And so I would take people through this 12-week program and then they'd have the option of joining this mastermind, and this mastermind was previously just for my coaching client, graduates, and so recently the Lord has called me to integrate my course and my coaching and my community all into one, and so it's kind of everybody moving and merging into the mastermind which has been running successfully for over two years, like Elise was saying.
Speaker 2:But in that same process, as I took that step, literally in the next couple of weeks, I saw an amazing opportunity to partner with Elise and what she brings to the table is so, so, so powerful and so not what I'm gifted in, which is having a schedule, which is having rhythms, which is having clarity on your boundaries and priorities. I love being a big picture thinker. I love helping people with their like doing business coaching. Elise is phenomenal at speaking to the mom, who has a life that is juggling a lot of different roles Right In your business, at home as a wife, as a mother, as a friend, as someone in the community, as someone at church.
Speaker 2:Like there's a lot of different roles, a lot of different things you're balancing, and so she has her own amazing story in that. But so the mastermind is an integration. It's like an ecosystem of purpose driven entrepreneurs who are learning what it looks like to build their business in alignment with their God given purpose and have peace in their life and home, and so that's through. We do that through courses, we do that through coaching, office hours. So every week you have, on average, about three office hours where you can hop into, whether it's an office hour with Elise or myself, and we also have another guy, taylor Arne. He does the tech side of building in the backend systems. People that we invite into our mastermind are people who have unique gifting, and so they also get to contribute, and so you're not just here to only receive, you're also here to be a part of the ecosystem and to to build partnerships and to pray together and encourage each other.
Speaker 2:Um, it's a really, really tight-knit community. Right now, we only have about like nine people in the mastermind, and so I would love to have another three to five people in there from the summit, and so we would love to make the offer to some of you who really are serious, like Lisa was saying, really are serious about taking full ownership of their own beliefs and actions, who are willing to invest their treasure in the place where they want their heart to be, which is in peace and in purpose of what God has called them to do. And so, yeah, I guess, to summarize all of that, you have my biblical business course, which is a 12-week course, and there's also coaching in addition to that that comes with the mastermind. And then you have Elise's course on stewardship and surrender, which is a lot of what we were talking about today, right? And so she also offers the office hour, and we have just other coaches in there as well.
Speaker 1:Does that give?
Speaker 2:some clarity on what the mastermind is. There's a lot there, Elise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I think it is, I think it definitely does. I can attest to what the community is like Whenever I know. Before I joined, before I met Jeremy, I really felt alone. Right, you're a business owner, you work by yourself, like especially if you're a mom and you are right, you spend your days with toddlers or older kids, with children, and then you work on your business by yourself. So there's very little. Even if your spouse is super supportive mine is super supportive he doesn't understand, um, and so like he just doesn't get it. Um, he's totally always there, like 100, but it's not. He doesn't understand.
Speaker 1:And so, like having people in your life that know the struggles, understand the loneliness of being a business owner by yourself, especially an online business owner and just knowing that these people get you, they understand you, they're there to support you, and then the layer that these people that are in this group also love and know the Lord and they're not just giving you like random marketing advice that they read or whatever to get you to you know your next mile marker or whatever the word is right. They honestly care about you, your relationship with the Lord and your business all of those things in one time, and so the people in there are fabulous, like totally fabulous, and several of the speakers this week are also Mastermind members. So Amy Lisa Schaefer and Amy's last name is Paul Amy, paul Lisa Schaefer, lauren Ralston they're all inside the Mastermind as well and just having this group of people that you can really go to with any kind of thing that's going on, if that's in your business, and like I've talked to several of them about things that are just happening in life, like they become more than just like a business relationship. They become friends, like their families, their sisters and brothers in Christ, like they are fabulous and I can't speak highly enough of all of them in there.
Speaker 1:Um, so if you are listening and you're thinking like this is what I need, then we would really love for you to join us. There is no pressure and we're not making you join. Like we were talking about earlier. We can make the offer you get to make the decision we are. I'm going to leave the link to the landing page all about this so you can learn more about it in the description of this or in the comments, both one of the two, I'm not sure. Somewhere below this video we will be able to find the link to the mastermind and if you are interested, even at all, you can get on a call with me and Jeremy and we will talk about it and where you are in your business, if it's right for you, what that looks like and how we can move forward.
Speaker 2:Beautiful, yeah, I'm really grateful, for I feel like I have been a receiver of the mastermind. It's not centered around me, it's centered around amind. It's a sense of like. It's not centered around me, it's centered around a collaboration. It's what the body of Christ looks like when it works together in business instead of isolating everyone and everyone, kind of competing and doing their own thing. You have beautiful things like like this, like like this partnership that we have right now at least. You see things like that happening all over the place, from referrals to joint events, to joint resources, to sharing resources, to just being vulnerable on a call and saying this is why I'm struggling with my business and having people who can speak to that and say, yeah, I've been there. So seeing how biblical principles and strategies apply in other industries and how that's all the innovation is, a lot of times it's taking what is industry standard for someone else and applying it to your industry and your situation, and so there's a lot of diversity in the mastermind as well. We like to have people who are in different industries because it brings a diversity of perspective, but all still in alignment of loving people through business. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2:And then just one more note on the call. So Elise and I are doing these joint coaching calls, sales call things. We're like telling you about the mastermind and answering any questions you have, but also maybe helping you take a baby step forward in your business and your life at the same time, and so. But we're only offering those joint calls until, I believe it's about April 3rd, so literally over the course of this summit. So if you book a call before the summit ends, elise and I have scheduled our schedules in a way that we can both show up for you and both meet you and both help you take the next step. So I'm really really excited about that. So don't wait to book a call. Someone was saying, hey, I'm going to have a toddler on my lap and it's like fantastic, we love working with mompreneurs. We get it. That's how it is right. So just show up where you are, come empty-handed. We'll come empty-handed, we'll meet you where you're at and hopefully help you take the next step forward.
Speaker 2:Another thing that I want to point out that we're doing special for the summit is we are basically offering 100% satisfaction guarantee, whereas in the first month if you don't like it, if you're like I can't believe Jeremy and Elise, what's it called? When you? They didn't switch like this is not what they were talking about, right? Like they don't, they don't show up, they don't care, they weren't on the office hours, or I didn't get what I was looking for. Um, we'll just give you a full refund in the first month. We'll just make it completely risk-free, um, you can see it as a free trial, but we do want you to have skin in the game from the beginning. But, like I said, if you you're like this is not what I'm looking for, this is not going to be helpful for me. Let us give you a full refund. We don't really want your money unless we're actually helping you make progress forward in your life, your business.
Speaker 2:Anything else that I'm missing, Elise.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so. I think you covered everything. Yeah, definitely jump on that. Call with us if you're interested in any way. Yeah, jeremy's right, we can only make our schedules work together for a little bit, not forever. And yes, bring your toddlers. Asher will show up too. He shows up to all kinds of stuff with people, so bring your toddlers, bring your whatever. We're here for whatever you got.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, and then are you, aren't you offering the VIP stuff in there as well?
Speaker 1:Yes, if you, if you join the mastermind, then you will also receive the VIP all access pass for this summit as well.
Speaker 1:So that means that you get all of the bonuses that all the speakers gave inside and then you have access to all of the recordings, the interviews that are going over that are happening over the five days of the summit. You'll have access to them and you can rewatch them or watch one that you missed. And if you already did purchase the VIP All Access Pass and you do join the Mastermind, then I will refund you that money.
Speaker 2:Cool and we also have a bunch of like recordings from all of our previous workshops because we'll have like outside experts a lot of times coming in to speak. Lisa says I usually bring my cats. There are all different kinds of things going on there. Like I said, people show up as they are. It's a lot of fun. But, yeah, you can go back and watch, like we do in person retreats as well, so I get to meet Elise in person. We've never met in person, so we get to meet in person this year in May, so I'm super excited about that. But we have like our retreat videos from previous years and then also like our workshops from all previous weeks all the replays in there as well that you get immediate access to Give it a shot for a month, see what you think and then go from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, cool. What do you say? Yeah, okay, guys, all right, we're going to wrap it up. Thank you, guys so much for being here with us. This was fabulous and we will hopefully talk to all of you very, very soon. Bye, guys.
Speaker 2:Bye.