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Who will own the future of AI? The giants of Big Tech? Maybe. But what if the people could own AI, not the Big Tech oligarchs? This is the promise of Decentralized AI. And this is the podcast for in-depth conversations on topics like decentralized data markets, on-chain AI agents, decentralized AI compute (DePIN), AI DAOs, and crypto + AI. From host Jeff Wilser, veteran tech journalist (from WIRED to TIME to CoinDesk), host of the "AI-Curious" podcast, and lead producer of Consensus' "AI Summit." Presented by Vana.

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The People's AI: The Decentralized AI Podcast

Why Data Self-Sovereignty Will (Fairly) Create Better AI, w/ Vana’s Creator Anna Kazlauskas

March 05, 2025 • Jeff Wilser • Season 1 • Episode 3

AI is nothing without data. It doesn’t exist without it. It doesn’t get good without good data. It doesn’t get great without great data.

Right now, two major problems are colliding in the world of AI:

1. Data transparency – Most AI companies don’t disclose where they get their training data, leading to lawsuits and ethical concerns over how models are built.

2. Data scarcity – AI companies are running out of high-quality data. Much of the internet has already been scraped, and without fresh, high-quality sources, progress could stall.

In this episode of The People’s AI, presented by Vana, we sit down with the project's creator, Anna Kazlauskas. And we explore a solution to both problems: data self-sovereignty. Vana is building a marketplace for user-owned data, allowing individuals to control, contribute, and monetize their own data while helping build AI models that aren’t just competitive with centralized models—but potentially 10x better.

We break down:

• How AI companies currently source their data (and why it’s a problem)

• Why user-owned data could fuel the next breakthrough in AI

• The role of data DAOs and how they work

• The privacy-preserving mechanisms that allow users to contribute data securely

• How decentralization could make AI more powerful, fair, and sustainable

Vana isn’t just about fairness—it’s about building better AI. We dig into how data sovereignty could shift the balance of power in AI, giving individuals a stake in the models that shape the future.

Timestamps:

0:00 – Introduction: AI’s biggest data problem

2:00 – The hidden battle over AI training data

6:45 – What does “data sovereignty” actually mean?

12:30 – How decentralized data can create better AI

18:10 – What are Data DAOs, and how do they work?

25:00 – The economic model behind data ownership

30:45 – The privacy challenge: Can user data stay secure?

38:20 – The roadmap for decentralized AI’s future

About Vana:

Vana's vision is for user-owned AI through user owned-data. Its mission is to be the world's first open protocol for data sovereignty.