Beyond Sunday

You Can't Give What You Don't Have

Pastor Lee and Pastor Jim

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Introduction to Beyond Sunday

Speaker 1

Welcome to Beyond Sunday . The podcast that takes you deeper into the Word of God throughout your week with your hosts , pastors Lee and Jim . It's time to inspire , uplift and dig deeper . Beyond Sunday starts now . Hey , good morning everybody . Welcome back to Beyond Sunday . I'm Pastor Jim here with Pastor Lee . We pastor the Church Christ Family Outreach Church in Amelia , virginia , and I'm here in studio with Pastor Lee . How you doing , brother ? I am blessed .

Speaker 2

I am blessed . I am ready to dig into this episode , brother , how are you man ?

Speaker 1

I'm excited Anytime we get an opportunity . Like I know I say it so often , but it's just the truth . Anytime we get an opportunity to talk about kingdom things , I'm ready to go for it .

Speaker 2

Yes , brother , it truly excites me because I realize , as a Christian number one , it's what we're supposed to be doing . Number two is how we sharpen iron right Iron sharpens iron , so one man sharpens another . Sharpen iron right Iron sharpens iron , so one man sharpens another . And when we talk about kingdom things , the Spirit of God inside of us begins to do a work . So I'm just excited . I know that kingdom things changes lives for people . It encourages people and so , yeah , man , let's get going . I'm looking forward to it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and the truth is it's got to be centered around the Word of God , because without that I got nothing good to say . Nothing good to say . You know I was with somebody one time , you know , just hanging out , and they were a new believer . And you know , I was just being who I am in Christ and he deserves all the honor and glory for who he's made me , amen . And so I was just being me and he said , he looked at me and he goes , man . There's just no way . This is real . I said what you mean , man ? And he goes . Well , it's always praise God , it's always . You know , you're talking about the Lord . No matter what situation we're talking about , you find a way to pivot it and we end up talking about Bible or kingdom things . He's like there's no way this is real . I said , yeah , it is man , because there's nothing better to talk about . That's right . That's right , you know . And with that being said , let's just jump into the Word . If you have your Bibles , you can open them up . If you're driving , don't do that , but just listen ,

The Heart of Following Jesus

Speaker 1

put your listening ears on , because we're going to be talking about .

Speaker 1

You know the heart of what it means to follow Jesus . So 1 John , chapter 4 , verse 7 through 12 , here we go Beloved , let us love one another , for love is from God , and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God . Anyone who does not love does not know God , because God is love . In this the love of God was made manifest among us . That God sent his only Son into the world so that we might live through him . In this is love , not that we have loved God , but that he loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation of our sins . Beloved , if God so loved us , we also ought to love one another . No one has ever seen God . If we love one another , god abides in us and His love is perfected in us Now , just right off the bat . It's powerful .

Speaker 1

A lot of language is being used about love , but the passage , what this is , is a roadmap for living out God's love and where it comes from and how we abide in it . And I want to tell you what . In a world that's often full of division , in a world of social media , and in families and in the grocery stores all across the world , this is the message that we need , and I want to unpack it with Pastor Lee here Three points that I want to cover . We're going to get into it , you know , because God's love is the source , jesus' sacrifice is the model , and our response to all of this is to love others . What do you think , pastor ?

Speaker 2

Lee , you ready for this ? Yeah , man , I'm excited , I'm pumped , because if there's one word , after hearing you read the text , if there's one word that , to me , sums all this up , it's love . Yeah , to me sums all this up , it's love . And if we go deeper , to the root of that , right , what kind of love ? Whose love ? It's the love of God , through his only begotten Son , jesus Christ . So we get going .

Speaker 2

Just looking at the first verse that you read , it's verse 7 , beloved , let us love one another , for love is from God , and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God . So I just want to reference 1 John 3.11 . 1 John 3.11 says for this is the message you heard from the beginning we should love one another , right ? So this is the message that we've heard from the beginning that we should love one another . So this message of love is not a new concept , right ? It's not a new theme , it's not a new theory , not a new idea . You know , this thing of love has been around from the very beginning .

Speaker 2

Maybe for some people out there today , though , they really don't know the love of God because they don't have the love of God in their hearts . And I will just say this I thought I knew what love was until I got saved . And I will just say this I thought I knew what love was until I got saved and , man , then I realized that love is more than just a fuzzy feeling . Love is more than just a warm feeling . You know , thought , I knew what love was , but when I realized that Jesus Christ laid down his life for me , when I realized that Jesus Christ took what should have happened to me , but he took it on him , when he paid the debt for all my sin , I realized because he didn't have to do it I realized what love was .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I mean . The truth is , if you offer me love as the world offers love , I don't even want it . No , you know , I don't want it . Too many problems come with it . Yeah , because , first , god's love is the source of all

God's Love as Our Source

Speaker 1

love . Look at verse 7 and 8 . Love is from God , because God is love . It's not just that he loves , but he is love . That's who His nature is , that's God's nature . So think about that . Every time you show kindness , every time you show patience , every time you show forgiveness , you're tapping into God's character . So it's like drawing water from this well that never runs dry . You know , the other day I was actually , I was with you and we were doing the ice cream deal for Elijah's birthday party .

Speaker 1

Well , the following day I went back out to Chesterfield and my wife said hey , I want to go back to that ice cream store because they had this really good flavor . So I walked into the store the next day to go get some ice cream . And the lady behind the counter , she did not look like she was having a very good day . She was snappy , she looked a little frazzled , she looked kind of like she was out of her element , she didn't look very friendly , and customer service 101 says put a smile on and be nice to the customers . She was kind of missing that .

Speaker 1

But my first instinct in that moment was like really , you know , almost to be annoyed . But then I thought , like what if I show her a little bit of kindness ? What if I'm just overly nice ? What if the love that abides in me from the Father is seen in this very , very moment ? So I just smiled and I asked her hey , what's going on ?

Speaker 1

Everything good , you look , you know , you look a little frazzled , really , just trying to spark conversation . And then at the end of the day I was just very , very nice and very , very open and at the end of the whole thing , exchange not that this is that important but I left a decent tip which I normally don't tip . That's why I bring it up . I don't tip at those kinds of places but I just chose to and she saw it and she had a smile on her face . So when I went in she looked frazzled and looked upset and when I left she was smiling . And it was in that moment that me being—it wasn't just about me being nice , but really it was about God's love flowing through me in that circumstance , and that's what John's talking about . When we love , we're showing that we're born of God . We're showing that we're connected to Him .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and at the end of 1 John , 3 , 11 , the command is that we should love one another . That word should is not an option , right ? No , it's a command . This is what you should do we should love one another . You know that is not a choice . Well , you know , maybe I will , maybe I won't . No , no , we should when we enter a room we should look different .

Speaker 1

Yes , and it should be the love of God flowing through us .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah we should be the difference in the room right , Because of what Christ is doing . You're absolutely right . Well , for the listeners who are still wondering , what was the flavor ? Key lime pie ? Ah , man , out of all the flavors we could get in life , we got to go get key lime pie in an ice cream .

Speaker 1

Hey , it was very good and it had like these graham cracker crusts in it , which is what made it for me , man .

Speaker 2

Now , that is cool . That is cool , all right . So , moving on with the eighth verse , anyone who does not love does not know God . That's interesting , right ? Think about that , chew on that . Anyone who does not love does not know God , because God is love , right ? So I mean , 2 Corinthians 13 , 11 says Finally brothers , rejoice , aim for restoration , comfort one another , agree with one another , live in peace , and the God of love and peace will be with you .

Speaker 2

And when I think about that because that's a cross-reference to the eighth verse when I think about that , out of all the words in 2 Corinthians 13 , 11 that I just read , the main thing that hits me is three words aim for restoration . And I think that restoration is a huge work . It's like a huge byproduct of love . You know , so many families are torn apart , so many families are struggling and going through things , and when we don't focus on the love of Christ , it's really hard to communicate that restoration is needed , right ?

Speaker 2

So , getting back to the verse in the eighth verse , anyone who does not love does not know God . We should be walking in such step with the Spirit of God that His love is pouring through us and that's evident . Of that , and regardless of how I feel or any walls that I've built up or any truths that I may be justified in when people have done me wrong or my family wrong . The most important thing is the love of God working in and through us so that we can aim for restoration , so that we comfort one another , so that we can end up agreeing with one another on the love and truth of God , so that we comfort one another , so that we can end up agreeing with one another on the love and truth of God , so that we can live in peace with one another and that the God of love and peace will be with us . That's 2 Corinthians 13 , 11 .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and you brought it up , pastor Lee , earlier in your first thought about how , before Christ , you didn't even know what love was . Before you realized what he did for you on the cross , you didn't realize what love truly was . And I think to my second point , if we move into verse 9 and 10 , is Jesus' sacrifice on the cross really is the model of this love that we're supposed to have ? Right In verses 9 and 10 ,

Jesus' Sacrifice as Love's Model

Speaker 1

that's the heart of this passage . In this the love of God was made manifest . So basically , when we saw Jesus on the cross , you can speak of God's love , but really it's just this idea . If you don't see it so physically , tangibly , it could be touched up on the cross . So God's love on the cross was made manifest that God sent his only son right to be the propitiation of our sins . That word propitiation it means Jesus took the punishment that we deserved , satisfying God's justice , so that we could be forgiven . Romans 5.8 puts it this way and I love this . God shows his love for us in that , while we were still sinners , christ died for us . So I want to think about that and you've already alluded to it .

Speaker 1

We don't understand love until we see it on the cross right , god didn't wait for us to get our act together . He loved us when we were a mess , right , when I was a mess , when you were a mess anybody who's listening . God doesn't ask us to get fixed up so that we can somehow earn or deserve his love , right . But that's the kind of love that we're called to . It's not this warm and fuzzy , it's sacrificial . It's choosing to love someone even when they've hurt you , like forgiving a co-worker who threw you under the bus right , or being patient with a family member who's just driving us up the wall . Jesus on the cross . It shows us that love isn't cheap . It costs something . But here's the thing about that kind of love it transforms us , or it should .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you mentioned seeing Jesus on the cross , and knowing what he did for our sins is what lets us know what love is right . So when you said that , brother , it just reminded me . When I was young , when I was little , my parents took me to church once that I can remember maybe twice . We just weren't a church-going family . My mom was raised that way , in church . You know , their family was heavily involved in church , but there came a time in life where she stopped going . So I wasn't raised in a household that faithfully went to church , basically at all . But we were a family that believed in God .

Speaker 2

And this whole time that I'm growing up in my life I never knew that there was a love from God for me . I knew that God was real . I feared God even as a young child and as a teenager I never started to attend church until I could drive myself . Once I got my license I began to drive to church and was there pretty much when the doors were open , when a service was available . But I never really knew , until I started attending church , that this God that I had feared , that this God that I knew existed . I never knew he had love for me . I mean .

Speaker 2

So I think about all the listeners that may be listening , who maybe they're like that or they know someone like that , and I think maybe that's an important reason why , if you're listening right now , you should share the link to this podcast with some people , just text it to them , tell them to take a listen , because I believe that there's a lot of people out there , a lot of people out there , that are living the way that I was living . Maybe they're young , maybe they're old . They believe in God , but they don't understand , pastor Jim , that this God loves them . He truly has a love for them . And that takes me into what I call the plan of God , as John 3 , 16, .

Speaker 2

For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever shall believe in him shall not perish but have everlasting life . This is the plan of God . And as we understand that Jesus Christ died for us , now we begin to know wow , for someone to do that man . What greater love is there than that ? So he loves me , and when we accept him and we walk in his word , then that love becomes in

Our Response: Loving One Another

Speaker 2

us . And once we have that love now , we can offer that love to other people . You know I say it all the time . I just referenced it again in last night's recharge service . I can't give you anything that I don't have to give . So if I want to be able to show people the love of God , like you showed that young lady working at the ice cream place , I've got to first have the love of God in me to be able to offer to others .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and I think you made a really good point that you heard of the love of God . You had a fear of God , but before you got into church and had a relationship , what you never had done before that or up into that point , was experience the love of God . Right , and so to your point . You can't give something that you don't have and you can't have God's love until you experience God's love . You can't read about it , you can't hear about it . You have to experience it ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , absolutely to experience it . Yeah , absolutely . Getting into the 11th and 12th verse , it says this Beloved , if God so loved us , we also ought to love one another . No one has ever seen God . If we love one another , god abides in us and his love is perfected in us . You know we may not right now , pastor Jim , see God face-to-face right now , but isn't it amazing that people can see God in and through his people ? Yeah , we are the ambassadors of God , we are the representation of God . What an honor , what an honor . So the last thing we need to do is , as Christians , go around being unloving vessels . When people see us , they need to be able to see the love of God inside of us .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and it's that word ought to . That just is that reminder that this isn't a suggestion . You know , the Word is telling us , because God loved us , we're compelled to love others . We have to love others . Verse 12 says and it's really a beautiful promise when you look at it . He says when we love , god abides in us and his love is perfected in us .

Speaker 2

Think about that man . If you're taking notes out there , write those two words down Perfected love , Our love .

Speaker 1

like you said , it makes God's presence visible in the world .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and imagine that a love that so many people struggle with , love , and what love is and what love looks like . One day you're madly in love with your spouse and the next day you're just grinding against them because you're disagreeing , right , man we're talking about , when it comes from , a love from the Father . It is a love that gets perfected in us , so it's a perfect love , the perfect love of God that then gets perfected right , it is a perfect love on the inside of us and it's perfected in its work , and then we can begin to do what we need to do , to look like God . And I love in the 11th verse , where it says we also ought to love who , one another . The Christian life is not just about me , me living the Christian life is about loving other people . And oh , by the way , jesus says that I'm to love even my enemies .

Speaker 1

Yeah , jesus actually says this in John . By all this , people will know that you're my disciples if you do what Love one another . Amen , brother , our love is our witness . You know what I'm saying ? Yeah , our love is our witness . That's how people see God's presence in and through our lives .

Speaker 2

It's our witness , it's our testimony . It's the story of Christ working in and through us . This love of God is such a powerful thing that it can break the most hardened heart and give it a heart of flesh .

Speaker 1

Amen , brother . Yeah , because this kind of love that we're talking about is really an action word . You know , sometimes it takes swallowing our pride , sometimes it takes taking the first step and so saying that , what's the takeaway ? You can start small , but the deal is this you have to start now , start this week . Pick one person , maybe someone who you've identified already in your life that's hard to love . Just start to show them kindness . Start sending text messages to check in with people maybe you haven't talked to in a while . Offer to pray for people , right .

Speaker 1

Help those who are in need , and when it's tough , all you have to do is remember God's love for you , remember it was unearn who are in need , and when it's tough , all you have to do is remember God's love for you . Remember it was unearned . Right , and here's the deal God's love is unending , so we shouldn't stop either . Right ? He showed it on the cross and let that fuel you . 1 Corinthians 13 reminds us that love is patient , it's kind , it's not rude , it's not boastful . So if you're listening

Practical Applications and Prayer

Speaker 1

to this today , I want you to lean into God's truth and watch God's love shine through you .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and you know what , Pastor Jim , when it's the love of God shining through us , there's not a curtain in this world that can dampen that light . You know I'm thinking about when our children were younger . Erica and I had these blackout curtains in order for them to go in and take a nap during the daytime . And we would had these blackout curtains in order for them to go in and take a nap during the daytime , and we would close these blackout curtains and the room would just get dark , you know , almost as if it was nighttime . You know , like hardly any light ever got through there at all .

Speaker 2

And I think that that's one of the things that a lot of Christians struggle with . They allow things to come into their lives that are like veils , you , that are like veils . They kind of pull a curtain and that curtain dampens our testimony , that curtain begins to try to block out light , and what we need to do , as Christians , is realize is that the last thing God wants is a Christian that has hidden their lamp or they've put something over their light to make it not shine as bright . And when we allow the true light of Christ shining from in us , there's not an enemy in this world that can make that light go dark .

Speaker 2

Father , we just thank you so much for all that you do . We thank you , Father , that you allow us to be vessels as your people , that your light enters in and we can shine brightly for your glory . In the name of the blood of Jesus , Father , we just pray that we not be seen nor heard , but it be all you doing , all the work in and through us . We acknowledge that we're no good . We're no good if we do not have you at the center of all of it in our lives . Lord , we just pray , blessing favor and honor over our listeners as they choose to honor you , as your word says in 1 Samuel 2.30 , for those who honor you , you will honor in return . And we ask all this in Jesus Christ's mighty name and cleansing blood and all of God's people . Our friends said amen , amen .

Speaker 1

Thank you for tuning in to . Beyond Sunday and until next week , what I want you to do is go out and love like Jesus . This week , you .