Brother Sister Whatever
Brother Sister Whatever is the cynical-but-lovable sibling podcast for GenX & Xennials navigating the messy middle of life—identity, aging, family roles, and all the weird in-between stuff that adulthood forgot to warn us about.
Hosted by Lisa & Josh, two grown-up siblings with opposite vibes and shared trauma, this show is part therapy, part throwback, and part unfiltered real talk about the messier side of life. Expect plenty of 80s/90s nostalgia and laughs as we dissect it all!
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Brother Sister Whatever
Sibling Reflections: Finding Our Podcast Voice
We made it. 24 episodes later, Season One is officially a wrap.
What started with Lisa’s fear of recording and Josh’s “let’s just wing it” energy has grown into something real: a structured (but still chaotic) sibling podcast built on honesty, growth, and way too many personal confessions.
In our Season 1 finale, we reflect on:
→ The evolution of our dynamic (spoiler: we barely disagreed)
→ Josh’s mic-drop moment about seeking peace over happiness
→ Lisa’s emotional off-mic breakdown that almost made it into the episode
→ Our first-ever “BSW Chaos Awards” 🎉
→ Why embracing imperfection was the best decision we made
Biggest surprise? This whole thing made us closer. And somehow, a little wiser.
Whether you've been with us from day one or just discovered us, thank you for being part of our journey. Season Two is just around the corner—same siblings, fresh perspectives, more structured chaos. And maybe even some guests 👀
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all right, so welcome to brother, sister, whatever, I'm lisa I'm josh um, this is it, guys. This is the season finale, episode 24. We made it to 24 episodes. Can Can you believe it?
Speaker 2:That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1:I know right. So what did we learn, josh?
Speaker 2:What did we learn? We learned that we could be somewhat entertaining. Nothing, everything.
Speaker 1:I guess so right, well, let's get into it. Okay, josh. So what's?
Speaker 2:something that you've. What have I learned? Um, I I learned just how passionate you are about doing this podcast. Oh, it's, uh, it's been pretty incredible seeing you all fired up but do you remember how we started, how I started? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't passionate, well, passionate but it was more, I think fear. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't passionate, well passionate, but it was more. I think fear was the dominant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but, but I mean that's usually um, uh, a piece of it. I mean that that's, I think, what stops people from doing it Right. So, um, whether it's a podcast or a new job or you know whatever in life, I think fear is what stops people.
Speaker 1:That's true. I have to say, though, that I think the reason that I asked you to do this with me was because I knew that you would push me a little bit.
Speaker 2:I'm a pusher.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, I think thank you, yeah, Well it's true. I think you know everyone needs a push, think, uh, you know everyone needs a push, and especially when it's coming from someone else meaning like I feel like you know, there's only so much pushing we do with ourselves compared to if someone, if we have that you know, cheerleader that person kind of being like wow, you're like, you're so good at this or you can do this, it kind of pumps you up.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true, but you are definitely somebody that doesn't need doesn't at least from my perspective, doesn't need the outside push Like. You have pretty good motivator on your own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it took a long time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure it did.
Speaker 2:But I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I think you're right in many ways. I think the kind of push I need, I've always wanted is the organized push.
Speaker 1:Oh, and that's where I come in, exactly.
Speaker 2:Organized. You know structure I'm, you know passion takes over what I love, and there I don't need a push for that.
Speaker 2:So but I've been, I've been working at it, I've been learning to, and I'm noticing how much more I enjoy my passion when things are more structured so yeah, it's true, you feel, um, there's maybe a sense of control a little bit yeah, more of a sense of control like and and I I think I mentioned, I must have mentioned in one of the podcasts like, as I get older, there's something like switching like before, like I could like not that I'm like a slob, but like I could have like shit everywhere and not really, like, you know, like whatever. Now it's like like it's really bad, you know, like I can't. So it's like that's kind of coincided now with even work structure where it's like oh, you know, it's like too messy, like I can't, I can't do this. Yeah, like it's got to be organized. So it's like oh, you know, it's like too messy, like I can't, I can't do this, yeah, like it's got to be organized, so it's weird.
Speaker 2:I think it has something to do, without going too deep. I think it has something to do with, like, inner peace. And it's the inner peace it's ever since I realized that I'm not looking for happiness, you know, I'm looking for peace and and and, because someone could say something which is perfectly fine, but someone could say like oh, you know, I keep my house clean or I keep my business structured, because that makes me happy, but, like I don't know, I don't think it's happiness. I think it's. It's it makes you feel at peace, because happiness that means at some point you're sad, like I mean it's. It goes both ways right.
Speaker 2:So so and you're not always happy. You can't tell me, because your house is clean, you'll always be happy, like right? So you know, I don't know. So I, I, I think we, at least in my eyes, I feel like we misword happiness and and peace. And so now I tell this to everyone I meet now, everyone I talk to or whatever, and they're like oh, you know what are you doing to, you know what makes you happy, or you know, and I go, I'm not looking for anything like that. You know, yes, there's times where I'm happy, there's times where I'm sad, you know, but that's always going to fluctuate. And it's this thing where people feel like they have to always look for the happiness and you're just forever disappointed Because, yes, you will be happy A hundred percent, but it will always switch at some point, for whatever reason. So it's like it's about focusing on what just keeps you, you know, level.
Speaker 1:Grounded Grounded.
Speaker 2:Yeah, interesting.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, and it's about focusing on what just keeps you you know level. Grounded, grounded, yeah, interesting, no, yeah, well, yeah, what you say certainly kind of has made me rethink a little bit, because, yeah, you're right, we always say like, if you know and we've talked about this again before If I get this or if I have that, or if I'm, I, I'm at this point in my life, or whatever I will feel happy or I will feel fulfilled, or I will whatever um, if we could re-record episode one now, what would we change?
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I'd have structure, because we went into that episode just kind of like let's wing it, let's just talk about ourselves.
Speaker 2:That's Josh style.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's Josh style. But again, you know what I think I've said this a couple of times over the season and I'm going to stick to it Like I don't regret what we did. If I knew what I know now I would have. I would have. It would be different. Well, that's but the whole point of me knowing. What I know now is based on the road that we've gone through.
Speaker 2:That's it, so you can't connect the dots. Looking forward.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you can only connect them.
Speaker 2:looking back Exactly.
Speaker 1:So what would I change about it? You know what? Nothing, and I actually think that all of the episodes, in their own way, reflect pieces of us, and I'm really happy with that. I'm not disappointed, or.
Speaker 2:Like the Lisa structure? No, with that I'm not disappointed. Or like the lisa structure? No, if you go, if you watch our episodes, guys, okay, and if you go to episode one and then you just watch a snippet of each video, you'll see how we went from nothing in our hands to, you know, just sitting doing whatever, to having 5 000 sheets and well listen cards and listen josh but I love it.
Speaker 1:I love it because it's somebody's gotta do it you know, you bring? You bring the wisdom and the charm and the wisdom well, well, you know, oh shit. You have some nuggets every once in a while, okay, and I bring the structure.
Speaker 2:Fair, fair. I'll take wisdom.
Speaker 1:Maybe, dare I say, a little creativity.
Speaker 2:Who me, no me, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You creativity for sure.
Speaker 2:Me not so much.
Speaker 1:Okay. So, josh, what part of this show actually changed you Like of doing this show? Actually changed you Like of doing this show together? Anything, it could be small, big, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I like the ritual of it, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the structure of it.
Speaker 2:Well, the ritual of it, like coming here seeing you, you know, catching up to kind of have that ritual.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that ritual you know. So that's definitely one thing. I think that has made this you know.
Speaker 1:It's nice to be closer. We didn't talk as often as we do now, so that's kind of nice. That's something that's changed that I really love. For sure what's changed me and it's so silly is my voice, the way that I talk. Not my voice, but like the way that I talk, I've gone from listening like the first couple of episodes, like barely being able to listen to myself, and then now it's like, oh, okay, so I feel like more, maybe, comfortable in my own skin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, does that make sense? Of course that makes a lot of sense. That's changed, that's great For sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you see, you know what it is with me? That I find that like I have a thought, but the words in my brain are so fast that, like, coming out, I like, stumble over my words and I'm like, and then like my thought. Yeah, see, just did it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like that. That's okay. We are who we are right, right that's it.
Speaker 2:What was your biggest? What are we even doing moment this season?
Speaker 1:it was probably um and I guess anybody that's been with us from the from the beginning we'll know that we started with weekly our six followers our six followers. Uh, we went from weekly episodes to every two weeks and just before we made that transition, that that moment of this is like too much. I need to like like it was all encompassing in my life.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:For sure, and so now that we're doing it every two weeks, I feel like much more calmer, at peace and I'm enjoying the process more, which is the whole point of us doing this. Like I mean, we had several different reasons for starting, and not all of them match each other Right, but one of the ones that was big for me was just being able to put myself out there in a way that I had never done before and to be creative, and it was for fun. It's in, it's supposed to be enjoyable, and when it stops being enjoyable, something's amiss, and so it was that little turning point for me this season. So what are we doing? I had to remind myself, you know, like why am I doing this again? Oh right, for the six viewers and for creativity.
Speaker 1:But, what about? What about you? Is there anything that any time that you were like what are we doing?
Speaker 2:No no no, because I like to talk.
Speaker 1:So Well, hey, there you go. Well, hey, there you go. Yeah, okay, so how about we do some of this or that? Let's do it, but we're gonna do like a little bit different vibe. We're actually gonna focus on like our actual podcast okay okay, so I'll start us off. Okay, so this or that fandom episode or pet peeves episode?
Speaker 2:pet, peeves, hobbies or personality types.
Speaker 1:You know what Personality types was really fun.
Speaker 2:Both were good, but personality types was fun, was really fun.
Speaker 1:Both were good, but personality types was fun. I feel like we learned a lot about each other.
Speaker 2:Now, if someone wants to talk to me, I need to know their personality trait, right?
Speaker 1:Because I think I got it wrong in that episode.
Speaker 2:You think you got it wrong.
Speaker 1:I think I got it wrong.
Speaker 2:Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1:Because I went into it thinking, I went into that specific episode having an idea of what introvert, extrovert, ambivert, omnivert was.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And really, what it is across the board is how something makes you feel.
Speaker 2:It's not the activity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's how that activity makes you feel it's not the activity.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's how that activity makes you feel. So it could be a thousand different activities. The activity doesn't make you that personality type.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's the feeling that it gives you. Yeah, yeah, I think what I, and that's where I got it wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think what I got wrong is that it's not like you're either that or that, like you're actually both. It's just the percentage of that scale. So it's like yes, I'm introverted, but I have extroverted moments.
Speaker 1:But that's exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know. So that's what I mean. So it's like we say we're introverted, but that doesn't mean that we don't have extroverted moments.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Like it doesn't you know so like on my, thing, I think.
Speaker 1:I was so, then that would make you an ambivert. I mean theoretically so, like on my thing, I think I was so, then that would make you an ambivert, if you find. I mean theoretically, if you find peace in activities that are considered extroverted and also introverted. That's an ambivert.
Speaker 2:Yes, but like, for example, when we did the personality test and it says that I'm introverted. It just means that I get more of my peace from that than the others.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But it doesn't mean that you're only introverted.
Speaker 1:The ratio is different.
Speaker 2:And because that ratio goes by percentage. So I think I'm 60% introverted, so there's still 40% where I'm extroverted.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what my percentage was. Well, you should double check. Now I need to go and do a check, it's still automatically saved.
Speaker 2:You just have to go back to the site and it'll check, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, but that's what I figured out from doing that. I think you are both, though I agree.
Speaker 2:Officially both if you are at 50%. Do you know what I mean, though, because if you're at 50%, I agree right so it's like you get, you get both. You, you get you know, versus me at 60 percent. Like, yes, I can handle extroverted scenarios and I might find some peace in some of it, like maybe a gathering and we're talking about dogs or whatever, but then in other contexts you wouldn't we're in a club, the music is, you know, blasting and I'm just like oh my god yeah right yeah.
Speaker 1:So even the thought of doing something like that gives you dread. Yeah, yeah, no, okay, yeah, so we're. We're saying it two different ways, but we're in agreement pretty much the same yeah exactly. I don't care what people think, or I'll do that later.
Speaker 2:Which one are you most likely to still think? I think I've been getting better with the I'll do that later one. It's still in there, though, you know, but I think I'm going to go with the other one.
Speaker 1:I don't care what people think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, less and less as time goes on. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:So, like before, I think I remember in the episode I said like we say that, but we don't mean it yeah you know, I think I remember saying that, like we say, we don't care what other people think I'm independent, you know I'm a strong person, don't care what other people think I'm independent, you know I'm a strong person, don't care, you know. But really like we do, you know, but I think I'm caring less. You know, I really think I am. I used to feel like I don't know, like I had to be so flashy and I had to, like, prove so much, you know, and I think again it comes back down to like that peace. You know, like now, like I don't know, I don't really care. I care more about what my kids think of me than I care about what anyone else thinks of me.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So summer then versus now, or great outdoors I think the great outdoors.
Speaker 1:That was pretty fun yeah that was a fun one, the campaign and milking a cow oh, jesus oh, I love that one. That was really funny. Uh, okay, so let's do a little mini segment called the chaos awards okay it's a one-time only, guys, or? Or maybe we'll save it for, like, all season finales or something. So the chaos awards. So if you were to vote on the most unhinged episode, the episode that kind of went off the rails unexpectedly, anything come up.
Speaker 2:No, not really.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:You. I mean, I think we're pretty tame, yes, maybe in season two we We'll go a little nutso balls. You know, because we're like, you know zero chill, Brother, sister, you know, but like then we're like. So our personality traits are you know, so so are you saying that the tagline doesn't fit the vibe?
Speaker 2:I'm saying that our podcast sounds more controversial than it is Than it is, so maybe we should fix that. But you want to know what I think. What I think that you were not expecting us to be so cohesive with our conversations. I think you were expecting to be polar opposites in a lot of the comments and things that we did, and what you learned including myself, is that we're much more alike than we think.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what I think happened.
Speaker 1:I thought we would have been like I would have had at least one episode where I'd be like what the fuck are you talking about? Kind of shit, you know, and it hasn't happened yet. Yeah, in 24 episodes. So I don't know. I do think I don't want to say it's the most unhinged episode, but I think at least one one of us, every episode goes off on a little bit of a tangent.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, for sure, in some respect, I think it's usually me. Oh shit, what about our biggest off-mic meltdown?
Speaker 1:Our biggest off-mic meltdown. Oh yes, when I cried and I remember it was, it was tech, we were technically recording and I started you were being all like fucking heartfelt and shit talking about jet.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And I started crying and I was like this is getting cut because I can't have. I kept crying for six subscribers.
Speaker 2:This is not what they signed up for.
Speaker 1:Blubbering in the corner. Yeah, I was just having a moment. It was just the most heartfelt thing and it got to me. I should have kept that in. Maybe I'll just I'll find the footage and just put it as a short and be like Lisa crying LOL. Don't do anything you don't want to do. Well, I'm getting more and more um, okay, with like not everything has to be fucking perfect. I don't have to be just so. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's okay, it's okay. I think that's also a really big lesson that I've learned, because I do most of the editing right you do all the editing.
Speaker 2:I see the. I really like You're probably seeing the evolution. Yes're probably seeing the evolution.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm seeing the evolution yeah. You know, yeah. Most surprising insight, and you can't use the personality traits that we just brought up before.
Speaker 2:Most surprising insight yeah most surprising insight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, now it could be about the podcast in general, or it could be about a specific episode subject.
Speaker 2:I think I was very impressed and surprised with your um, like the way you think, when it comes to the parenting with gray and oh. Parenting. I remember talking. I remember us saying you know, talking about that, I was like oh shit. I was like, wow, okay, I'm impressed.
Speaker 1:Specifically the none of your business comment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that too, you know. All of that you know. I thought and, yeah, you know, and just like your thought process on like the sleepovers and stuff like that, you know. So for me I feel like that was quite the insight, yeah.
Speaker 1:I love the memories that we talk about Childhood things Not even necessarily childhood things, even in adulthood maybe little things that I didn't know about you. You know what I mean. I feel like, uh, over the season there's been a significant amount of little things that I'm like, really I didn't know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, same for sure. Yeah, those are fun, that is fun.
Speaker 1:Um, now what? What do you want to see in season two?
Speaker 2:just more of what we're doing yeah there isn't anything that like pops into my head. I think it would be super cool if maybe we have an episode where we have a third.
Speaker 1:Like a guest star. Yeah, yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2:That would be fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, things to think about. So, everybody, this is it. This is the wrap of season one, final episode. We are really looking forward to season two, which is coming in a couple of weeks, so stay tuned for that. New segments, Slightly new look yeah, just lots of fun stuff coming.
Speaker 2:Please, if there's anything you would like to see in season 2, why don't you drop us a comment? You could also send us fan mail, our social media accounts brother, sister, whatever.
Speaker 1:Yep, instagram, facebook, youtube. So this has been Brother, sister, whatever season, one in the bag, real talk, zero chill.
Speaker 2:I'm Josh.
Speaker 1:I'm Lisa, and we'll see you soon.
Speaker 2:Bye.
Speaker 1:Bye.
