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90s Halloween: More Fun or Just Less Supervised?
Lisa didn’t grow up celebrating Halloween. James was the kid with a pillowcase and a plan. In this episode we unpack why Halloween feels so good, the psychology of “fun fear,” what it’s like to grow up outside the party, and how that past shows up in our parenting now. Plus: a rapid-fire horror movie showdown (Candyman, Scream, Blair Witch, Sixth Sense) and what actually scares us as adults.
Chapters
0:00 Welcome, Halloween Confessions
1:32 Why Halloween Feels So Good
4:17 The Psychology of Fun Fear
9:30 Growing Up Outside the Party
12:45 Parenting, Traditions, and Letting Go
17:45 Was Halloween Freer in the 90s
20:50 Adult Halloween Economy and Costs
25:10 This-or-That: Horror Movie Showdown
31:10 What Actually Scares Us
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I wasn't allowed to trick-or-treat.
SPEAKER_01:I was usually mapping houses for king-sized bars.
SPEAKER_03:Josh is off this week, so my husband James is in the hot seat, literally, because today we're unpacking Halloween chaos. If you've ever spiraled over a costume, rationed your kids candy, or just want permission to hate adults at Halloween parties, this is your place. Don't go anywhere. So first of all, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for filling in for Josh while he's away. I appreciate this. This is like the perfect episode for you because you are the only person that loves Halloween as much as you love it in all forms.
SPEAKER_00:I do love Halloween.
SPEAKER_03:So this is very appropriate to have you on here. And for any listener that's kind of like, hmm, I recognize the voice. You may have heard him as the behind the scenes host on some of our game shows that we've been doing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's me.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so Halloween.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So as I've mentioned before, I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and didn't really get to do much of any holiday. Poor child. So I was the one with um no pumpkin or lights on at night behind the window, staring out dazingly.
SPEAKER_01:So sad.
SPEAKER_03:It's so sad.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my God.
SPEAKER_03:Why is Halloween fun?
SPEAKER_01:Oh my God. Because it's that one of the year where you get to just literally be anything that you want to be. And like, you know, like as you're a kid, you're like, oh, I want to be this. And yeah, you can. Like when you're a kid, you always want to be, you know, it's like I want to be this, I want to be that, because kids have imagination. But literally, that's the one idea of what you can manifest that you can literally be, I want to be a ninja. All right, you're a ninja. Oh, I want to be an egg. I'm like, all right, we'll figure out how to do that somehow. You know, here you go. Egg with legs or whatever.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I think that's part of it, is that it's it's because like we all everybody in life, they all we all kind of wear masks of who we are and and and who we want to be. And especially as a kid, I think it's nowadays. Adult has definitely grown up with them where they are able to be that one thing that they, you know, inside they want to be, and then you know, but they can't normally.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Like, I mean, I remember when Emirus was a kid, like, I'm talking like three or four, she spent like a good month being Snow White everywhere.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That was her favorite costume. Yep. And she wore it everywhere. Like it was like a lifestyle almost.
SPEAKER_01:Look, look at our kids, right? Like our youngest. He he's gotten a couple of costumes and he characters that he loves. True. And also, costumes are a lot more expensive these days than they were when we were younger. But he he he wears it uh all the time. Like he's worn it so many times now he's starting to disintegrate.
SPEAKER_03:It literally is.
SPEAKER_01:You know, he's for years he was gecko, and then for years later he was bingo from Bluey.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah. Just loves it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Either outgrown or literally disintegrated in our in our fake in our hands. Yeah, love it. I love that explanation that you gave. It's actually never honestly ever thought of it that way. It's true. You do get to be like somebody that you're normally not for an evening, or in our kids' case, the month, which is fine. We get our money's worth out of that costume for sure. But now let me pinpoint a more specific question to you. Okay. Why is being scared fun? Because, okay, so let me preface this a little bit. So there's this whole world surrounding Halloween. Yeah. Okay. Haunted houses, scary movies, all this stuff. Yeah. Okay. Where you're scared. But I mean, the that's the whole point of haunted houses, the whole point of scary movies. It's like a mind fuck, essentially, right? Like you're scared. Why is it that people enjoy being scared so much? And I'm asking you because you like that stuff.
SPEAKER_01:Because I like the stuff that she knows. I kind of know. Yes. So you have to be like, why people? Okay, so I think Halloween is kind of that that entry point for a lot of people because you obviously you just get dressed up and you do the whole Halloween thing younger than you do other things that can elicit that fear response, right? Like you're not watching scary movies at eight years old, except for a kid, or uh or other things, you know, like haunted houses. A lot of times they're like, if you're really young, you know. So Halloween is first that that that foray to oh, okay, scary stuff, and it's kind of fun. But then as you get older, obviously you start doing more and more things. And why is it fun? Well, it's it's kind of like it's where you are introduced, you start learning that fear can be fun. And why can't it be fun? I can get technical, and then I tell you like, because when you get that fear response, that that it it it's that that fight or flight response that's in your brain, it triggers chemicals in your brain that gives you that sense. You start, you know, breathing faster, you start sweating, you start reacting, and all those things happen. So, like, there's literally a physiological chemical. You start getting that, right? Yeah, you know, you know, your adrenaline goes up, all that stuff similar. Like when you start working out, your adrenaline goes up, you start feeling bad, but it feels good. Similar with being scared, like you get scared. Obviously, in these movies, you know, something bad happens, that's not fun. But like for them, most of the time, they're getting scared, but nothing bad is happening. And they're starting to equivalate with like English James, uh, equate those two things. Similarly, we're talking about different things that do that, right? Like scary movies. You watch something scary, oh my god, it doesn't happen. And even when something happens, like nothing happens to you. It's that that fear response is like triggered, and you're like, oh my god, and then goes down because whatever the outcome happens. For me, like one of the biggest things is uh theme park rides.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, right?
SPEAKER_01:So, like you're on a you're you're learning. That's why also, like I said, like how is the first floor? Because like, you know, these these thrill rides, little kids can't get on mostly for safety. But when you get on, you're like you're going up really high, and that that fear response is starting to trigger in you, you know, you're starting to breathe heavier, you're starting to get and then you go through, but in the end, you're fine. And then you start realizing, oh, that's fun. And that's that's what kind of does it. That's that's fun.
SPEAKER_03:Hmm. Okay. Well, somewhere along the lines in my brain, I shut down and go in a corner and cry. But you know, teach their own.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. It's that's that's all you, right? It's triggering different things inside you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So well, that's what I'm saying. It's some things elicit a fear response and other things don't. They're like, oh, it's whatever. Which is funny, it's like they're both horror, they're both scary, but teach their own, right? Different things scary different people, you know? Yeah. Like the joke of people, you know, like, oh, you know, what scares you an adult? You know, see this guy in his head, and you see like taxes, and you know, like a broken car, you know, like mother-in-law showing up, and you're like, Oh, that's my fear, you know.
SPEAKER_03:So, oh boy, that's true. So, going back to what I was talking about before about not growing up, yeah, being able to celebrate Halloween, but what that did to me as a kid kind of made me feel isolated.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03:You know, like I wasn't really like a part of the group. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like everybody else was talking about their costumes, you know. There's always listen, we have kids.
SPEAKER_02:We do.
SPEAKER_03:We know every single year, even in daycare, yeah, they were drawing what they wanted to be for Halloween. They were there was there was prompts from the teacher, right? Like, what do you like Grayson's project, first school project is coming up, and it's what is he gonna be for Halloween? And he has to present it to the class, right?
SPEAKER_01:First yeah, I don't even know what he is gonna be for Halloween. I don't even know what he got. He got something.
SPEAKER_03:If he had some sort of alien thing, alien thing, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. So it's it's like it's it's ingrained in every everywhere, right? You can't escape it. Yeah, and so yeah, it was kind of it was kind of a little lonely, I have to say.
SPEAKER_01:For sure.
SPEAKER_03:It kind of is an interesting dynamic now. Me as an adult, married to somebody who clearly loved it and and still does, and how we're approaching that with our kids. I am coming from a place of deprivation where I'm like, I never had this, my kids are gonna have it, we're gonna love it. Yeah, go, yeah, you're like, yeah, right, and that for lost time all holidays, all holidays, not just Halloween. We go all in and everything from my angle. And well, how do you approach it from your angle in terms of now that you have kids and all of these things? Because also, there's a chunk of change between when you truly enjoyed Halloween and were able to really throw yourself in it in terms of trick-or-treating, all that stuff, and now right in adulthood.
SPEAKER_01:Before I go trick-or-treating, and there was like there was like you know, there was there was bounty to be made. I was like, Oh, I'm going, I'm doing this and I'm getting stuff in the end. You know, like I'm getting yes. Now the kids are going like they're getting stuff, and I'm just walking around in the dark and like, all right, let's go.
SPEAKER_03:Do you do you wish that you could like dress up and and do it again? Like relive your youth almost.
SPEAKER_01:Like, what to go trick-or-treating? I mean, it would be fun, but I mean, yeah, I I I have positive memories of it, and that's that's that's probably why again, we're so like into it, like, oh yeah, go do it and go get yours. Because eventually I know like they also will age out of it. So like make the best of it while you can because like I know how awesome it was, and then it's over. You know, like it's it's it's not gonna last. So do everything you can to enjoy it while it does last.
SPEAKER_03:I know. And speaking of of lasting, we're going through a slight little change in with the kids this year in terms of now it's not gonna be the four of us going to Katrina. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Now they want to go with their friends.
SPEAKER_03:Now they want to go start going with their friends, right? Friends. And that's fun. Of course. Of course, I I want to encourage that and and I'm all for it. But there's a little bit of like sadness. Yeah, it's not that it's not them.
SPEAKER_01:You know, munchkins out there, yeah. Yeah. Now they're like older and they're but I I get it, you know, because like frequently, I think the last couple of years when we've gone and taken it out, they've crossed paths because obviously they're friends, they have friends, they have a bunch of friends, and they're out there too, right? So like they happen to, I mean they'll live in the same area, so like they cross paths, like, oh they're always all I'm like, I get it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and they've and they've said like, oh, why can't we go trick-or-treating with them, you know? Yeah, and I've honestly I think it's been the last two years for sure that that's come up.
SPEAKER_00:So the older, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And and I've just been like, nope, it's a it's a family thing, it's uh we're we're doing it together, like really holding on to that.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think I'm gonna need to like let go the reins a little this year, because yeah, I mean, still we're still gonna be there, but they're gonna be you know, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:It's kind of like, you know, like going back, like you know, we we go on vacation, we go to the theme parks, and you know, we take them this and that. And the uh the older ones already talking about like going to hang going to this with his friends there. I'm like, okay, you're a little pump the brakes a little bit, you know. Like, but I I do get it, you know. Like you I don't know. I I remember first time going and doing things on your own, just just with your friends on your own, not with your family, and it's very liberate, liberate, yeah, it's very free to be like, oh, I'm just gonna hang out with my friends and doing things. I used to have to do with my parents, yes, right? Yeah, for sure. But still it's it's gonna be first it's like with us, it's it's the family unit, and then it's the friends of the family. You know, like we'll they'll be with their friends and we'll be like at the hot dog stand or whatever doing something ten feet behind them.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:You know, it's making sure everything's fine because they need to get home somehow and then they're still not able to do that. And then eventually, you know, I guess they get a little even older, then they'll be like, okay, I'm going uh you know the six flags uh with uh you know Cassius and and and and uh Winston or whoever whatever French, right? Yeah, and they're like, all right, uh bye, here's Busfair or you know, whatever. There's Uber.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And that's it. It's gonna come.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Yeah. Do you think that Halloween was more fun in the 90s? So like growing up, 80s, 90s, growing up, or was it just less supervised? Like, did you when you went trick-or-treating? Because I have no experience on this, clearly, when you went trick-or-treating as a kid, yeah, at what stage did you not go with your mom and dad? Like, how old were you? I would assume younger than teenager.
SPEAKER_01:Younger than teenager. I stopped younger than teenager. I was probably around Riley's ish age. So like 10, 11? Probably around there when you started just throwing it with friends and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, without parents. Without parents at all.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Because those were the days. Now I couldn't imagine sending my kid out even with friends, a group of friends without a parent.
SPEAKER_01:Like, yeah, I mean, and that's that scares the kids. You send them with a group of kids, like you'll you know there'll be a parent. Like, I'll go there, but like, oh, there's there's at least one there, you know. Some type of adult interaction. It's super not watching, but like they exist. They're there, like, oh, somebody's there, something happens. Halloween's had a steady decline over the years. Um I I don't I don't want to say it 100%, but I feel like there's a bit of a resurgence, especially for kids. Because Halloween has it's it's a it's an event and it's it's changed and metamorphosis a lot. And you know, things have happened before it was all kids, and then those kids grew up, and now those kids are like they're still like I don't do much partying and stuff like that, but like a lot of people you're older, like you get older and like, okay, I'm gonna go to Halloween parties, you're gonna keep it up, you're gonna do that. That's still big on. If you go to any Halloween section at any store, you know, like you go through the costume section, you're like, ha ha. Well, these are not for children. No, so clearly that feeling of it's fun to dress up and do things is is.
SPEAKER_03:We were commenting on this so two weeks ago, we went to go costume shopping for the boys. Yeah, okay. And literally three quarters of the store was adult costume.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Because all adult costumes and then kid costumes was the last last bit. But like I was like, wow.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's not like there's clearly a lot of adults that are getting costumes. Now, listen, I know at work they do the whole, you know, you wear a Halloween costume, you get a free lunch. Do I bother?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but no, some people do. These people are they probably already have costumes, they're not going to these places and spending 150 bucks on a no no notion to get a free lunch.
SPEAKER_03:I agree. Yeah, you have usually like I mean, look at this, right? This is gonna be my costume for the next six years until Halloween is officially dead in our house. Yeah, right. Like it is what it is, uh, but and I'm okay with that. I'm not the one that you know what I mean. I can find my imaginary. But but yeah, so like I'm it just it just surprised me.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:It just surprised me. I was like, why?
SPEAKER_01:Like again, those those kids that love Halloween, uh included, right? Like they've kept that and as they grow older, right? They become adults and then they they still love it. And I think talk about Halloween, like going in as as a as a as a holiday, it's also become just like a lot of holidays, it's become very much a business opportunity, right? Of course. Like we got like we all talk about Christmas. We all love Christmas, but Christmas is is all about the the money, and every company knows that's how you got your Black Fridays and everything else, and then Christmas holiday, because everybody spends money, right? Like use the holidays, spend money. Same thing. A lot of these kids that loved Halloween, they grew up, they became adults. Well, now they have adult money. So they still love Halloween, but now they have adult money. So, like, oh, cool, we we can start selling adult costumes, we're gonna start pushing that because there's a huge demand for it. And they're spending more and more money and buying these costumes, like I alluded to, they're expensive. Like the cost of these, I'm like, holy geez, Louise. Well, the only problem with that, which we now as parents have this, I notice is that the market, the cost of all these costumes has gone up because you have demand from the adult side, right? Do we have adult money and that price has gone up? Well, the kids' prices, because they're like, oh, well, they have kids too, so they must everybody who who likes Halloween must have a lot of money, but they're willing to shell out kids' costumes. I know for a fact, we I mean, obviously there's inflation, all that, but like when we look at the price of these kids' costumes, you're like, Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, but listen, okay, so even just with our kids alone, yeah, okay, so we went from a$40 max. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I'm no joke.
SPEAKER_03:Five years ago. Five years ago.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Dare I say pre-COVID? Yeah. Or around there because yes. So we went from a$40 max per costume. Yeah. To now that shit's blown out of the water.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, yeah, not even close.
SPEAKER_03:Like you are, we are literally double. You cannot get a costume for less than$80.
SPEAKER_01:You can get accessory$40.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Also kind of gone a little cuckoo at one point with decorations, outdoor decorations.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And spent spent some money on that. But that I didn't feel as guilty about because you're reusing it like every year. You know what I mean? But, anyways.
SPEAKER_01:Look at the huge increase. Before you people put up, like, you know, they put garbage bags and it looked like pumpkins, and you put your leaves in it and you shove it on the lawn, you're like, there we go, we decorate for Halloween. Oh, I also got a three-hour pumpkin and so that I'm done. Now I don't know, you got like five inflatables on the lawn and then like blood in it, and there's stuff all over the place. Yeah, you go to Home Depot or any of these other places now, you can buy full-blown animatronics. I'm like, well, okay, what is this? Disney World, what's going on here? Like, they're like, oh, yeah, just buy them and throw them up there. You see on TikTok and all these other things, they got like, oh, the 12-foot skeleton. Like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, listen, we wanted that. I'm getting it. Until we saw the price.
SPEAKER_01:I'm still getting it.
SPEAKER_03:She doesn't. I was like, yeah. It's in the garage. This or that. Okay, so you're asking me or no, we're gonna ask each other. We're each gonna pick one. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:It doesn't have to, it could be the same, it could be different, it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_00:Gotcha.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. And full disclosure, these are all movies that I actually have seen.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's why they're okay. I'm looking on my this is like eclectic little collection.
SPEAKER_03:It's a very eclectic collection. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Candyman or Dr. Giggles.
SPEAKER_01:It's a good one. For me, uh Candyman. Definitely stood the test of time. Longer Tony Todd horror icon. So and they just the guy played Candyman. Um he just recently passed away. They actually did a remake of it just recently, too.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Just did that. Dr. Giggles, I remember as a kid in elementary people talking about Dr. Giggles, and basically just because of the giggles. And so that was the claims I used to the giggles. So it never became as much of a a notable horror movie as Candy Man. So definitely Candy Man.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. Well, both traumatized me, but I'm gonna say out of the two, Candy Man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Uh Scream or I know what you did last summer.
SPEAKER_03:Scream. Scream? Hands down. Love the Screams. Actually, the probably the only horror movie that I actually like, but only the first one.
SPEAKER_02:Only the first one.
SPEAKER_03:Only the first one. And I I've seen it so many times now. Okay. Leprechaun or Children of the Corn.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Leprechaun, 100%. Me and my buddies, we we we watch Leprechaun. And now the thing is, even when we watch it, I don't think it was ever really super scary, but we just laugh our asses off. We think it's it's a fantastically entertaining movie. Warwick as the Leprechaun is just amazing. The stuff that goes on and all the subsequent sequels, they become more and more trash as most horror movies are. Like you keep on making more and more sequels and they get worse and worse. But these ones, it was, it was kind of already trashy in the beginning. It's it's they, you know. So like we just we just we're on a we're on a we're on, we're going like this, we're good. You know, the one-liers and all this that you you love, you're a huge Friends fan. Jennifer Aniston was not. Jennifer Aniston. Jennifer Aniston, you know, Leprechaun, she loves that accolade.
SPEAKER_03:Uh well, for me, it's gonna be children of the corn.
SPEAKER_01:Really?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:For because it's scary? Because it's a scarier movie, or do you I just I don't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:I thought Leprechaun was too dumb.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, Leprechaun's stupid. Leprechaun and Leprechaun is.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but you know how I feel about dumb.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yeah, she hates dumb.
SPEAKER_03:So I can't do dumb. Yeah. You know? Like I'd rather be scared shitless than watch a dumb movie.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. That's just me. Next.
SPEAKER_01:Alright, so next one. Oh, this is a good one. The sixth sense or urban legend?
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so I'm gonna say the sixth sense. I honestly did not think that the sixth sense was horror.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't I don't think it's it's it's got scary.
SPEAKER_03:What is the what is the what is the uh thriller? What is the the the line that they say for some of those psycho ones? Psycho?
SPEAKER_01:Psychological thriller?
SPEAKER_03:Psychological psychological thrillers. That is what I would call it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I wouldn't necessarily have called it a horror. No.
SPEAKER_00:Do you know what I mean? I would not.
SPEAKER_03:But for the sake of this, this or that, I'm gonna choose Sixth Sense. Probably because it was the least scary out of the two. What about you? Out of the two.
SPEAKER_01:Between those two. Okay, so there's just two things. Like, I also don't think I I 100% agree Sixth Sense is not a horror movie. It deals with psychologist who, you know, toxically sees dead people. So like there's a horror element into it, right? But I definitely wouldn't call it a horror movie because I don't I think there's just a jump scary part, but it's not trying to scare you. It's more mystery, it's more psychological, it's more thriller, it's more like mystery than horror. So I agree. Between the two, Sixth Sense and Urban Legends, Urban Legends is a straight up slasher horror movie trying to capitalize again, going back to the scream. Like scream uh re-invigorated that entire slashery thing because after the 90s, it was kind of a dead thing because Jason and Freddie and Halloween, they've all been running to the ground going with multiple sequel after sequel after sequel.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that was the 80s and 90s.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. People were just like, we're dead.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, to come up with something new.
SPEAKER_01:They brought it back back, and they're like, Oh, okay, remember, this is actually pretty good. And then there was a whole bunch of them. So you had you know, you Scream, and I know T Last Summer, Urban Legend was there's a whole bunch of them that kind of came back. So it came at that era, but I remember of those three, like Scream was the king. They kind of brought it back. I know the last summer was fun. Again, they had a lot of uh actors who were kind of like it actors at the time. You know, you had Sam Marcel Keller and Jennifer Love Hewitt and Ryan Philippi and all the people. Urban Legends, I remember like uh it's just kind of there. It's just like, oh, we're just kind of like we're riding people's coattails. Yeah, like I was like, oh, okay. So that was it. So between the two, definitely Sixth Sense. Sixth Sense is a better movie. Sixth Senates on this entire list is probably the best movie on this entire list.
SPEAKER_03:Well, yeah. In terms of a plot line, in terms of you've done it, in terms like yes. It's it's a scream's good too, but like, you know, like you thought you you were you think in that movie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. So uh sixth sense uh blew it out of the water.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so I don't know whose turn it is to say, so I'll say it anyway. Pet Cemetery 2. Two or Blair Witch Project.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so I don't think I ever saw Pet Cemetery 2. I saw Pet Cemetery 1. I don't know if I saw Pet Cemetery 2.
SPEAKER_03:Pet Cemetery 2 was with Edward Ferlong. Okay, so that's and I saw it because I had a crush on him.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, okay, that makes sense. So I did not see that one. I did obviously I saw Blair Witch Project.
SPEAKER_03:I'm I'm gonna stick to uh Pet Cemetery 2 because of my Edward Verlong crush. And I again we'll tell you now that we're done with with with the rounds, I'll tell you why I picked the ones that I picked.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:Urban legend. Urban legends are based on things that can be true.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, necessarily, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Myths that can be true. Yeah, the Lair Witch project is based on ghosts, hauntings. They can be true. Yeah, I know. Okay, yeah. Okay. Like that's what fucking happened. See, that that's that shit that's the fear that you that shit freaks me the fuck out. I cannot watch that shit. That will mind fuck me 10 ways to Sunday. Scream.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Which is funny because the chances of somebody trying, you know, like I said, trying to murder people. I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's a lot, unfortunately, in this day and age, it's a lot more possible to do that. I get it. But my mind does not work like that or whatever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So yeah, so that's those are the movies that still haunt me to these days. Those ones, like the urban legends, the things that are based on truth. Like, I mean, look, me growing up with all these like religion, Joe's witnesses, Mormon, all that stuff. Like, I I do in some way believe in some form of something. Yeah. So hauntings scare the shit out of me. All of that stuff. So that's what that's what truly gets to me. What, if anything, really gets to you?
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:So you'd still watch it, unlike me, but you'd still watch it, but what really like just still gets you after all these years? What style? What kind of movie? What theme?
SPEAKER_01:I mean it's funny. It's been a while since I saw a horror movie that was like, oh, I'm scared. Like I could be like, oh, okay, something's gonna happen. So I'm gonna go back to like when you're a kid, right? Like, and you know, you're watching these things. There, there, there's ones that I guess affect you. I can tell you, like, the first horror movie, and it's not even really a horror, I can say it's like I guess sci-fi horror. It's done by Toby Hooper, so director of Chainsman Texas Chainsman Maskers. So, like, it's not like I can't say it's not a horror 100%. Anyways, it's a movie. My dad rented it when I was a kid, and I don't know how old it was. I might have been Grayson's age, I might have been seven or eight, or I don't know what the hell. It's called Life Force. So, anybody who's seen it, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Anyways, and to to break it down into a very quick bubble. Let's say Ash wants to go to space and they find this ship inside a comet, and it's full of naked people, and they're basically vampires, like, but like life force vampires. And like, give me a vampire that bites your neck, sucks your blood any day. That shit don't do nothing. This thing, it grabs you and like it sucks your life force out through your eyes and like leaves you like this desiccated corpse. And then now you are like like a like you know, like you bite up somebody, a vampire bites somebody, then they become a vampire. Same thing. Then all of a sudden these these desiccated corpses get up and they start like reanimating and they start doing it again, and it's all practical effects, scared the fuck out of me. I I remember I remember staring at the fucking wall and just like wrapping myself in a blanket. I was like, ah, none of that shit. You know, I can still watch this and I'm like, this is still fucked up. I I didn't watch, I think I was in the like out in like the hallway where my dad was watching. I don't think they knew I was watching at the time. Anyways, fucking terrifying. It is, it is horrible. Horrible, horrible, horrible. And you watch now, it's a terrible, it's not a good movie. It's pretty, but it's it's fucked. It's uh holy shit. So that's one that really that that fucked me up. The younger you are, obviously, the more like punchy. Oh, another one. Okay, we actually one that scared me as a kid. I was like, oh, okay, like shouldn't have. We just watched it last night with the kids, okay? Ernest scared stupid. Okay. Yeah, I know. So, right? I remember I saw this movie when we had our place in the States with my grandparents. They took me to see this fucking ridiculous movie. And uh, everybody knows, I don't know, if you don't know Ernest, you know, he's kind of like an idiot, he's a buffoon, and things happen to him. There's a whole series of them, anyways. There's a Halloween one. I love Halloween, so they took me to go see it. And in the movie, there's this this troll, right? And uh he gets resurrected after like hundreds of years being in prison or whatever, and he basically had to like bring his army back. He needs to steal the souls of like five children. But how he does that, he touches them and he just he steals their soul, and it turns them into like these little wooden dolls. All right, yeah. Again, going back to like kids' movies, like years ago, there were kids' movies that are like, and this, even though it's a Halloween theme, I don't think it was meant to be scary, scary. It's got Halloween-ish thing, but it's very I'm watching it last night, like it's very buffoonery, right? It's like, oh, okay. But I remember that the scenes and things, things like that happened. Like, that troll scared the shit out of me, especially like the all, you know, like talking about just touches them and then just steals our souls and then like turns them into wood um, like that fucked me up. I was like, oh shit, fuck that troll.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, Halloween costumes.
SPEAKER_01:Halloween costumes.
SPEAKER_03:Round two of this or that. I'll start. Vinyl mask or face paint?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, vinyl mask? I go with vinyl mask just because I hate face paint. I had to share my face. I hate that stuff. Had some good ones. And obviously it's it's a lot cheaper and I think it's easy to do that. But uh yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. I'm gonna go with face paint. Okay. I hated vinyl masks. Okay, homemade costume or a store-bought costume.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so it's gonna go store-bought, but again, with the caveat. So in our time, store-bought costumes were like garbage. Like, who remembers? You know, you're like, oh, I want to be He-Man. All right, and nowadays you're like, you'll have like a muscle suit and shit. Like you see this kid with Spider-Man and Captain America. Like you think, like, no, back in the day, you didn't have no muscle suit. You had a fucking plastic smop with a picture of He-Man and Tails around front and a shitty fucking plastic mask. That was a store-bought one, so and that was store-bought, so that's good. Then you got homemade, which is I remember my mom once. I don't know, she decided to do that. So she just put me in a garbage bag. I don't know what the fuck. And people were like, Where's it supposed to be? I'm like, garbage man? I'm like, no. Yeah, I had like a monster mat. It was the it was the it was the worst. Like I was like, Wow, why? I think she saw some like do-it-yourself video. I don't know what the hell came up with it, but uh yeah, that was uh I love being asked every five seconds if I'm a garbage man. That was fantastic.
SPEAKER_03:So too scary for your age or too baby-ish for your grade? I'd rather be too scary for my age.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, definitely too scary for my age. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Pop culture fail or a do-it-yourself disaster? Well, I think you've just answered you'd rather be a pop culture fail, maybe sure.
SPEAKER_01:Do it yourself disaster. Yeah, definitely not do yourself disaster. Let me tell you, do yourself that you disaster and do it yourself, you you really fuck things up.
SPEAKER_03:So I I think I'll agree with that one. Pop culture failed too. And last one, matching sibling costumes.
SPEAKER_01:No.
SPEAKER_03:Let's just end it there. No, just no.
SPEAKER_01:You know, even even when you have a couple of costumes, you're like, that's fucking stupid.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Like sibling costumes, you fucking.
SPEAKER_03:You mean costume?
SPEAKER_01:What not the siblings? Well, you know, you go you go, you go to story, and it's like, oh you think it's stupid?
SPEAKER_03:So all those times that I was like, oh, let's dress up like bacon and eggs or milk and cookies, and you nodded, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER_01:I'll wear it. I'm not saying this is it's goofy shit, yes. And people look at you like, oh, look, that there's that fucking couple with the fucking like jelly and jelly and peanut butter or whatever the fuck. You know? Peanut butter and jelly. We look like a couple of furries here or something.
SPEAKER_03:I know, it's fun. It's fun. Go with it.
SPEAKER_01:Uh yeah, I'm here, so I'm okay. It's Halloween season, we just started, so it's coming.
SPEAKER_03:I'm excited. Yeah, I I we're like at this stage, what, like two weeks away almost from Halloween?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Uh well, that's it for us today, guys. Nice. Yeah. Happy Halloween.
SPEAKER_01:Happy Halloween.
SPEAKER_03:That's a wrap on our haunted nostalgia tour. Movies, costumes, trauma, and all.
SPEAKER_01:If you grew up with too much Halloween or not enough, you're definitely not alone.
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SPEAKER_01:Till then, enjoy the candy, avoid the plastic mask, and maybe don't say candyman in the mirror.
