The Mountain in Us

Sibling Hearts, Healing, & Divine Hope.

Taran Singh Season 1 Episode 12

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In this heartfelt podcast episode, Nancy Ayala opens up about the profound loss of her brother, Jose, and her journey toward acceptance and healing. She reflects on their close bond, describing him as both a brother and a father figure who shaped her life with love, music, and unwavering support. Nancy shares how her initial struggle with grief—a feeling she once saw as "the nastiest in the world"—gradually transformed as she learned to reframe it as an enduring expression of love. Her story underscores the importance of allowing oneself to feel grief fully, rather than burying it, as the first step toward healing.  

Nancy emphasizes the role of community and small, intentional acts of self-care in her healing process. She credits her best friend, Ruth, for listening without judgment, and journaling for giving her a safe space to process emotions she couldn’t voice aloud. Over time, she found solace in honoring her brother’s memory, whether through playing his favorite music or cherishing family traditions. Her journey illustrates that healing isn’t about moving on, but about carrying love forward in new ways, like her deepened connection with her parents and her commitment to living more intentionally.  

The conversation closes with a universal takeaway: grief and healing are not linear, but both are rooted in acceptance. Nancy’s resilience shines as she urges others to speak their love openly ("always say ‘I love you’") and to embrace life’s fleeting moments. Her story is a testament to the idea that healing begins when we stop resisting pain and instead allow it to remind us of what—and who—matters most.


 Quotes from Nancy in the conversation:  

On grief and love:

"Grief is just a feeling that you have—it's the love that you have for the person that you lost."  

On healing:  

"The only way you’re going to be able to heal is if you let it out. Don’t hold anything inside."  

On family bonds:  

"I saw [my brother] like a second dad… We were basically his kids. He spoiled us, and we got closer as we got older."  

 On living fully after loss:  

"Life is so short. Instead of focusing on the sad moments, try to embrace the happy ones, for as much as you can."  

On gratitude:  

"When you lose someone, you learn to appreciate more of what you have now on this earth."  



Each quote captures Nancy’s resilience, love, and hard-earned wisdom. Let me know if you’d like others highlighted!

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Taran:  

Hey, everybody! Today, my guest is Nancy Ayala, a good friend of mine for a long time. We’re going to talk about sibling hearts, healing, and divine hope.  


Welcome, Nancy.  


Nancy:  

Thank you, Taran. I am very grateful for this opportunity, for you allowing me to be on this podcast.  


Taran:  

Yeah, let’s—you know, we’ve known each other for so long, and having you here is my great pleasure.  


Why don’t we start with you introducing yourself a little more? Give us a bit about your family and your background.  


Nancy:  

Yeah. So, I come from a large Hispanic family—my mom, my dad, and five siblings: three older brothers and two younger sisters. And 15 nephews and nieces. Yeah, I have four siblings still on earth and one that has passed away.  


Taran:  

How was growing up in such a big family? Give us a glimpse—what did holidays look like? What are some of the things you liked to do? Paint a picture for us.  


Nancy:  

Well, you know, we come from a large family, including cousins, uncles, and aunts. Every day was chaotic—in a good way. Growing up with not just my siblings but all these cousins, my parents’ house was the main spot for events. We celebrated quinceañeras, Christmas was huge—somehow, we fit like 40 people in a small three-bedroom house in San Jose. It was just fun. Those memories… I wish I could relive them.  


Taran:  

You’ve shared with me about your relationship with your brothers. Zooming in on that—what brought you guys together as siblings?  


Nancy:  

My parents taught us to respect family, especially in a Hispanic household—the oldest is the most respected. My brother Jose (we called him Joe) was 13 years older than me. I saw him as a second dad. He’d take us to sporting events, spoil us—we were basically his kids. We got closer as we got older, appreciating his advice.  


Taran:  

When your brother is a fatherly figure and mentor… what memories do you cherish with him?  


Nancy:  

His love for music. He was a part-time DJ, and though our tastes differed, we shared that passion. The last memory I hold dear was New Year’s before he passed—we rented a big suite in San Jose, all the cousins together. He was glowing, so happy. That night is imprinted in my mind.  


Taran:  

The picture you paint of him is so vibrant. Grief is bittersweet—how have you taken healing into your heart?  


Nancy:  

At first, I felt lost. Grieving was new to me—I didn’t know how to accept it. But I learned grief is another form of love. It doesn’t have to be ugly. I had to force myself to accept it.  


Taran:  

Tears are strength, love, courage—your brother’s rhythm lives in you. How did you find allies in healing?  


Nancy:  

My best friend Ruth—like a sister—listened when I needed to talk. I also journaled a lot. Writing what I couldn’t say out loud helped.  


Taran:  

How do you see yourself changed now?  


Nancy:  

I’m stronger than I thought. My brother and parents didn’t raise me to be weak. I reflect more on life, appreciate moments more.  


Taran:  

Your bond with music—has it changed? Do you still listen to what you and Joe enjoyed?  


Nancy:  

Yeah, I catch myself listening to his music now—freestyle, cumbias—stuff I used to criticize. It makes me feel closer to him.  


Taran:  

Has your perception of love shifted since losing him?  


Nancy:  

I’ve become more attached to my parents. Losing someone makes you appreciate what you still have. My dad jokes I’ve turned into a “big baby” now.  


Taran:  

What’s one life lesson from Joe that you carry forward?  


Nancy:  

Let grief out. Cry, scream—don’t bottle it up. Healing comes when you’re ready to release it.  


Taran:  

Any final words for our audience?  


Nancy:  

Sibling loss isn’t talked about enough. It hurts, but you’ll get through it. And always say “I love you”—you never know when it’s your last chance.  


Taran:  

Thank you, Nancy. This was more than a conversation—it was a life session. Love you, my friend.  


Nancy:  

I love you too. Thank you.