The Sound of Healing

Power of the Heart by MILCK

• Jason Amoroso

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MILCK joins Jason Amoroso for a powerful, heart-centered conversation about grief, resilience, and the healing power of music.

• The deeply personal story behind her latest song, “Power of the Heart”
 • How heartbreak, vulnerability, and a sunlit bedroom helped birth her debut LP Mother Tongue
• The meaning behind lyrics like “your pain is not all that you are” and “the heart will try again”
• Honoring the still, small voice inside — and the courage it takes to follow it
• Why healing is about becoming whole and learning to love all the parts of ourselves
• How Revelation Breathwork helped MILCK reconnect to God, transformation, and her truth
• Living the question: “What does love look like here?” — even in moments of pain and uncertainty
• Why vulnerability, not posturing, is the leadership the world needs right now

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Jason:

So awesome. I am here with my new friend, milk Milk, I am so honored to have you as a guest on the Sound of Healing show, so thank you so much for making time to be here.

MILCK:

Thanks for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

Jason:

Yeah, we're going to have a lot of fun today and I want to introduce you. For anyone who does not know Milk, I'm going to read your bio and then we'll dive into Power of the Heart and then talk about that. So let's do it, let's have some fun here. So Milk is a singer, songwriter, producer and humanitarian whose music has become a rallying cry for healing and empowerment. Her songs have moved millions, blending vulnerability with strength and softness with fire. Over the years, milk has collaborated with artists like John Legend, ani DiFranco and Natasha Bedingfield to create anthems of empowerment over the years, whether through viral anthems like Quiet, billboard number one protest song of the year, or her latest release, sisters of Winter, which rocks featuring Ray Zaragoza, milk creates art that helps people feel seen and reclaim their truths. Milk's debut album, mother Tongue, was released this past February 2025, exploring her own healing journey with heartbreak, eating disorders and mental health struggles. How's that feel to hear your bio in that way?

MILCK:

I think my shoulders are like up to my ears right now. I'm like I'm practicing, but now I'm going to breathe and surrender and appreciate the passage of time and witnessing how I choose to spend my time.

Jason:

I love it Receiving all of ourselves and hearing our. It's like hearing our own voice. Sometimes can be like oh, that's what I sound like yeah, yeah, exactly, that's a good metaphor. Well, you know, I was wondering, I was thinking, trying to remember how I discovered you and my wife had discovered you when she went to a Glennon Doyle event.

MILCK:

Oh, together live, Was that it? It?

Jason:

must have been, and she told me about you and said you got to check out Milk, her music's amazing. And then I checked out Milk and your music is amazing and it fits everything that Revelation Breathwork is about, because we feature artists and songs on this podcast that we have breathed to, that we've experienced at a really at a deeper level and my experience of your music is so powerful. I think the first song was gold and I was like, oh, this is so good. Just everything about your music the lyrics, the soul. It's healing I always the empowerment. I always leave feeling better about myself and like my path after listening to your songs. So I really encourage everyone to have a daily dose of milk in their life, no matter what you're, no matter what you're going through.

MILCK:

There's a song for everything there's every phase of your life, Even if you're going through. There's a song for everything. There's every phase of your life, Even if you're lactose intolerant. There's, you know. This kind of milk won't send you to the bathroom. That's great, Is that?

Jason:

a good pitch. That's great and you're real and you're honest and you're just. You're funny and you're real. So that's what I just love about you and getting to know you over these last couple months, I guess.

MILCK:

Yeah, it's been fun.

Jason:

And congratulations on Mother Tongue. I mean, the artwork alone is compelling and just the journey that you bring us through in this album. And I was really surprised, honestly, to hear that this was your first EP.

MILCK:

Yeah, my first lp lp yeah, exactly, and I because I've done a ton of eps, like short form and I think short form bodies of works and I I think maybe it was a factor of having adhd or just really understanding how to harness a body of work over a long period of time just took me a bit to figure out, especially being in a culture that is focused on singles, like a single industry that loves just one song at a time. One song at a time. It's kind of nice to just be like, okay, I'm going to do the album now. I think I've paid my dues and I think there's some people who might be willing to listen to, you know, more than a few tracks at a time.

Jason:

Absolutely. It is a journey, and it's a beautiful journey of healing of everything, so it was worth the wait for your fans at least speaking on behalf of one of your fans and this episode of the Sound of Healing is going to focus on. There are so many awesome songs. My personal favorite is Power of the Heart, and so we're going to listen to that together and then we'll dive into it a little bit.

MILCK:

Sounds good.

Jason:

All right.

MILCK:

First kiss of the sun. Shapes of light Are flooding through the window. You're slow to get in motion.

MILCK:

Yet your mind could race Straight into a wall.

MILCK:

Ooh, don't give up. You've already come this far, so get up now. Get up, lord, you got stones upon your chest. Your pain is not all that you are, so get up now.

Jason:

Get up, when times are heavy on the head, don't you?

MILCK:

forget, there's still the power of the heart. Ooooh, when you think there's nothing left, don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. Ooooh, there's still the power of the heart. When you think there's nothing left, don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. You're hiding in your bed, got hypnotized by the ballad of the blues. So let me be your friend.

MILCK:

Your heart's a compass that'll lead you through what you say to me.

MILCK:

I'd say to you Get up now. Get up, lord. You've got stones upon your chest. Your pain is not all that you are, so get up now. Get up. When times are heavy on the head, don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. When you think there's nothing left, don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. When times are heavy on the head, don't you forget, there's still the power of the heart. The heart will dream. The heart will dream. The heart believes. The heart still sees as the child sees. The heart forgives and understands. It tries and tries and tries again. So get up now. Get up, though you got stones upon your chest.

Jason:

Your pain is not all that you are.

MILCK:

So get up now. Get up when times are heavy on the head. Don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. When you think there's nothing left, don't you forget there's still the power of the heart. When you think there's nothing left, don't you forget, there's still the power of the heart.

Jason:

Milk, oh my God. Milk, oh my god. Ah, so fucking good. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, man.

MILCK:

I that every my favorite song of 2025 by far, and, and oh my gosh, I mean so much to me.

Jason:

Oh my gosh, I get emotional every time. The is it like the bridge that builds, like the heart still sees as a child sees, and it's like let's go.

MILCK:

I yeah, that when that bridge was written, we all, we all kind of looked at each other like, oh, there's something really special here, especially just giving it all that space and allowing ourselves to just slowly think about well, what is the power of the heart? We have to define that for the song, yeah. And then I love like the heart forgives and tries and tries and tries again, you know, yeah.

Jason:

Yeah, it is a, it's a, it's a cracking open, expand. I mean, every time it's just my experiences expansion, empowerment, remembrance, oh my goodness. Yeah, I mean, I could talk, talk all day long, but we want to hear from you. I love it, oh my God, I love. From you. I love it, oh my god, I love it.

MILCK:

I love it milk um.

MILCK:

Thank you so much.

Jason:

Oh my gosh, what's the reception been to power of the heart so far?

MILCK:

it has been the song that most people mention on the album I, I think Morning Bird, power of the Heart and Wonder Wonder. Those are like the three songs that I'm hearing a lot of people just say that they are really resonating with. But Power of the Heart is the one that's across the board. I think it can resonate with many different types of people, different music tastes and different moods. I think also, just like I think, because the song stems from hardship in life and life is going to keep throwing us obstacles to learn from and grow from.

MILCK:

And everyone has something that they can refer back to, something that has felt like pain, that feels like stones on their chest and weighing them down. And another lyric that I love singing is like your pain is not all that you are, and it's like good to remember that because I don't know about you. But when I feel that, when I feel that grief, sometimes it's easy to forget like there will be a better day. It's easy to forget like there will be a better day, like it feels all-encompassing and almost can be an illusion. Um, so it's nice to remind myself when I'm singing it and to remind other people that it's not forever.

Jason:

The pain is not forever yeah, I mean we we've had uh conversations about this, not here, so maybe we'll bring it in this balance between really allowing yourself and giving yourself permission to feel fully when you're in it, instead of bypassing, instead of like, just think positive or how do I get out of this? What tool do I need to not feel this? And there's a lot of healing in giving yourself permission just to be where you are.

Jason:

Yes, healing and giving yourself permission just to be where you are, and that's really what the song invites us into. And it won't last forever, and the pain isn't who you are, but it's important to be with it. It is there to really open us.

MILCK:

It's funny you use the word open too. I was just having a conversation with one of my friends about how, after the grief of a seminal event in our lives, the act of staying open afterwards is such a brave act. So courageous of us to choose to stay open and to surrender to whatever outcome that's going to come next after breaking up with someone, after grieving the loss of somebody from your life passing away.

MILCK:

Openness is something that I really admire in people, especially people who have lived longer and longer, more and more years, more and more chances and encounters with hardship. To maintain an open mind and a connection with the heart is such a honorable feat.

Jason:

It really takes a lot of courage to stay open amidst all the journey of life and, speaking of which, curious, what was your journey that this song came out of?

MILCK:

I was in my temporary apartment.

MILCK:

I had decided to do a short-term lease, like one of those fully furnished places, because I had to move out of my ex and my place, because at that time we were on a break and I really needed to understand what life would be like without my ex and I really needed time to be away from our things and our stories and just to sit with myself.

MILCK:

And the apartment that I was leasing had these big window lights or windows, sorry. And so when this morning would come, there would be these rectangles of light kind of cascading across the walls. It was kind of like this modern design, so everything's like kind of minimal with these white walls, and I would be lying in bed watching these shapes of light moving across the walls and thinking like, okay, morning's here, I should really get up. But then that heartbreak, you just feel weighed down and there's like a moment where you just want to hide from the entire world. But then you're like OK, take a deep breath, get up. Like just the act of getting up from bed was so hard, like, but I would force myself to swing my legs to the side of the bed and just get up, and that's where the song was born from.

Jason:

Wow, wow.

MILCK:

yeah, sometimes it takes all the effort that we have, all the energy we have, just to get out of bed, just to start the new day, when we're in that place exactly, and it was so cathartic to write a whole song about just that split moment where you're in bed and you could choose to stay in bed and like pull the covers over and just cancel your plans, or you could just somehow just have this, maybe sometimes delusional, maybe sometimes grounded hope that this day will be better, and that's like why I really love the lyric the heart will try and try and try again. You know, I think we all make tough decisions in our lives. Sometimes they are made for us and we don't make them ourselves. You know like someone breaks up with us. Sometimes we have to leave a relationship because we believe that there's something that could fit our puzzle piece with honor and care, that the relationship is good enough and you know hiding in it.

MILCK:

I made the choice to take a gamble on maybe potentially there's going to be something that could be better. For me, that's not always the right call in a relationship. That was just my specific call at that time, because there's something very honorable about staying in a relationship, because that's also the heart trying again and again. So that's why I like writing songs that can fit different scenarios, because we're all experiencing something so different.

Jason:

And your messaging in so many of your songs is really about listening to your own heart, listening to your own inner voice and honoring that. So, like what you just said, it depends on the situation. It depends on what you're hearing inside and then having the courage to honor that Cause. Sometimes that could be staying in an uncomfortable situation. What? What is this here to teach me more? Sometimes it could be mean leaving a situation and stepping into an unknown or what feels like a loss. Yes, what I'm hearing, though, is like you have to listen to that still small voice inside and have the courage to honor it.

MILCK:

That's a really great summation of that. I would say that that little voice within and that's why I love Sara Bareilles' one of her EPs or albums called Little Voice I just really honor that little voice and I was trained out of listening to that voice for a very long period of my life. And the further away I got from the little voice, the emptier, more confused or depressed or anxious I would get. But the more I've trained myself to notice what my little voice is saying, the more I'm growing Like, the more I'm becoming the woman that I've always envisioned myself to become.

Jason:

And how does that feel?

MILCK:

It feels very emotional. You know, I was wearing my neck brace and I tried to wear one that was like camouflage, but I did. I did fracture my neck and my friend um, and I'm healing beautifully. I'm very grateful for that. My friend has a quote saying um, sometimes the rupture reveals the geode, and I feel like I've had to have quite a few ruptures for me to finally see that there's a version of me that comes out to take care of me. And lately I've been getting to know her and I really like her and that is something that I think I've been waiting to feel.

MILCK:

Through my career being signed to a major label, being indie, being engaged before being in long-term relationships I've longed to feel this sense of love of self. I've longed to feel this sense of love of self, but it's really taken me to be now I'm 39 or going to be 39 at the end of this month, and breaking my neck and getting out of relationship like that has all revealed to me this geode that I'm like. I've been longing to see this and I think it's always been there, but maybe I just have a lot of my own woundings, that I needed it to be very apparent so I could see it. Maybe it's always been there, I just didn't notice.

Jason:

So beautiful the journey to it's like healing is what is it?

MILCK:

It's this idea that when we discover ourself, we realize that we've never left, that we've always been there, always been through healing, the conditioning and the wounds and the experiences that you've had that maybe had you believing in misunderstandings about yourself or about life that's yeah, it's a beautiful way of putting it, because I feel like there's so many ways that I've tried to leave myself like and leave the reality through being, through relationships, through addiction to like work, addiction to relation, uh, to love, sex, drugs, like technology.

MILCK:

There's just all these ways that we can distract ourselves, um, and so it's nice. And you know, I have to say that breath work has helped me tremendously. And you know, doing that revelation session with you was so powerful and you had that song landslide in there, a cover of the Fleetwood mac song, and I just lost it. It was so powerful to hear the lyrics, um, about transformation, and seeing yourself reflected in these snow covered hills. But eventually the snow melts as well, you know, and we change and we change. So learning to breathe through the changes has been essential as a human and also as a singer.

Jason:

And that's so courageous that you are willing to meet yourself in those places. Because, again, my experience working with so many people in this healing space is the willingness to feel. Again, it comes back to the feeling, and the feeling all over the body sometimes and bringing it back to the power of the heart that only love heals.

Jason:

That's a line from A Course in Miracles and the Way of Mastery that I study and teach. Only love heals. No modality ever brought about healing. It's only the love that heals and that is the power of the heart. That is the power of your music and I think it's a great juxtaposition. I'm using fancy words that I don't normally use. It is a great juxtaposition with the head, because I can be as mental and cerebral and intellectual as they come. And there's this line in the song when times are heavy on the head, don't forget, there's still the power of the heart and it feels like an invitation. When we're spiraling, when we're ruminating, when we're in judgment, when we're doubting, it's always in our head and our thinking. We're questioning, we're worrying, we're doubting, but in the heart it's a totally different experience.

MILCK:

It's so well said. Yeah, thanks for bringing up that line. I really wanted to have that juxtaposition of the head and the heart. I really love that yeah, yeah, yeah song. And the heart, I really love that yeah, yeah, yeah song. I forget what it was. Heads Will Roll Off with your head, dance, dance, dance till you're dead.

MILCK:

And I have found that time and time again.

MILCK:

When I try to think my way through life, I just I tie myself into knots and kind of make triple the work for myself and I also lose out on enjoying the present moment because I'm trying to control everything, trying to predict the outcome of this, outing that we're going to go on with these two people, what are we going to talk about and how am I going to get out of this?

MILCK:

You know, like all these thinking, all this thinking doesn't really get me anywhere, versus just I surrender and I'm just going to be here and turn off the brain and my heart notices like, oh, this person is a little nervous too and oh, like that love for that person showing up when they're nervous too and then having a whole different interaction with someone because I'm out of my head. I feel like that. One of the best things I learned was that the mind is a terrible leader, but an awesome servant, an awesome follower and having the heart and the gut instinct lead, the brain will follow. I like that way of life more and it's opened up my creativity tremendously.

Jason:

It's amazing, it's like the head tries to keep us safe. I think sometimes anxiety for so many people. If I worry enough, if I try and manage all the unknowns, make them known, so I can mitigate risk and then I can be safe if I'm paying attention to every single thing. But of course we know that that never works. And when we have the willingness and the courage to slow down, to be still, to reside in the heart which for me is more of like a somatic, it's like a softening, it's an opening Then what you said like we notice and we receive information from so many different places we don't have access to when we're in our head, and I think that's a really powerful message of this song. And it takes courage because, again, our head's trying to make us. You know, we're always trying to be safe and the head thinks it knows everything.

MILCK:

Which is so understandable, right, like that hypervigilance that some of us have, like trying to predict what is going to go wrong, like that's so understandable because probably when you were young in a situation you weren't taken care of in a way, and so now you're like okay, now I have to take care of everything and make sure everything's okay, because that time was traumatic and that's such a logical, understandable reaction and just loving ourselves even more and being like okay, maybe there's another way, my dear.

Jason:

And then discovering that there is is so beautiful, yeah, and feel safe in this world. And so bringing love to that part of us that's scared, feels unsafe, thinks that I can't be myself or I got to be somebody else or whatever, it is to try and just feel safe. That's it. We're all just trying to feel safe, yeah, yeah. So this is a segue into healing. We had this conversation in the beautiful gardens out where you live, and how would you define healing?

MILCK:

Healing to me means to become whole and to integrate all the shards of ourselves and putting it back together and honoring each piece, and not shaming or judging any piece or not valuing any piece over the other, but just being like ah, this is me. That feels like healing to me.

Jason:

And that's love too, feels like healing to me, and that's love too, in my experience, what you're saying is like loving all the parts of ourselves, parts that feel broken, the parts that feel, you know, all the things that we've maybe disowned or we didn't like or we were told weren't enough or acceptable, and we believe that and so it's loving all of those pieces is, oh, like pushing that under the rug.

MILCK:

Ooh, we don't want to look at that, that's a flaw, we're going to put that on. It's like no, oh, this is a flaw, like just looking at it, letting it be and just dispelling it. My friend, yumi Sakugawa, has this sayings like have cake and tea with your demons, and I just love that so much and I used to understand that intellectually, but really forgiving myself in every moment when I'm not my best and just saying, okay, I'm human, I'm imperfect. What is this? What is this like rash brashness? What is this like harshness that's coming out? Where's that coming from?

Jason:

You know, A few times when I've had tea and milk and cookies with my demons, they turned into angels, yeah.

MILCK:

Great teachers.

Jason:

It also makes me think of this. I think I might butcher this. I think it's a Japanese tradition where they take pottery that's broken and they, like, glue it back with gold. It's not a crack in the pottery, it actually accentuates the pottery that this piece was cracked, but now it's filled with gold, filled with light, and that makes it even more beautiful.

MILCK:

Right, yeah, I think it might be called kintsugi, I think something like that, but we can look that up.

MILCK:

I may have said the wrong word.

MILCK:

But we'll see. But I love that practice. It's so beautiful.

Jason:

So a big part of who you are is a desire to make the world a more love-filled place that works for everyone, and so what do you feel like the world needs most now, and why is maybe power of the heart resonating with so many people in terms of where the world is?

MILCK:

I think that the world and I think I'm such a little part of the world and yet I'm like a drop in the ocean, and then there's the ocean within me as a droplet has been that there has not been enough modeling of vulnerability and acceptance of one's shadow, and so if I can just do that for myself, then I'll be able to do that better for people around me and that might affect future leaders. Like, who knows, like maybe a kid I interact with next week is going to become the mayor of the city or run for president one day, and maybe that kid will have been shown that vulnerability apologizing, admitting that one doesn't know everything is a strength versus the posturing that I see so often in our mainstream culture and in global leadership. That's what I've been hoping and I think I'll do my part and I hope that other people get affected and be inspired to do their part and just let it ripple out.

Jason:

So beautiful. It makes me think of the Gandhi quote be the change that you wish to see in the world. Just be it and shine it and live it. And that is the demonstration to everyone around us that we have no idea the ripple effect that it can have on someone Just through a kind word or just hey, I see you. Or listening for a minute, without trying to give advice or fix or solve. Really powerful.

MILCK:

Yeah, because I think, like I don't know if anyone can change the world in an instant, but I think everyone has it power to affect the world with their choices, choice by choice. So yeah, just choosing, like you said. I'm still thinking about what you said like love heals every all. Is that the quote?

Jason:

Only love heals.

MILCK:

Only love heals. I've never heard that phrase that way, but it feels true. So I'm now like scanning through all the like, the ways that that could be true. But yeah, like love, to just yeah, to love. Well, I want to. When I, when I'm on my you know deathbed, I want to like close my eyes. Hopefully I have the luxury of like closing my eyes in a peaceful death is like oh well, and I was well loved, like that's my hope uh, so beautiful.

Jason:

And, if you think about it, if you eat a meal that was prepared with love, you can taste it versus a meal that was just made.

Jason:

If you, you know all these things done, it's that's, that's why it's not the modality, it's not what you do. You can hear a song, but if it's, if it's, if the songality, it's not what you do, you can hear a song, but if the song was inspired by love, by soul, by honesty, you can hear that versus a song that wasn't. And so, yeah, leaning into that, that only love heals and it doesn't matter the modality or what you're doing, it's the place that you're coming from and the thing. Can I just share something?

Jason:

Of course, sometimes we hear that all the time, this word, like hey, be loving, but like, what does that look like when somebody is like shouting at you, or when your teenagers aren't listening, or when your boss is being a certain way or you're being a certain way? It's like living in the question of what does love look like here? How does love want to express through me here? So it's not like a one-stop shop, it's like oh, what is love wanting me to see here? It's living in that question versus saying, oh, I'm just going to be love. Well, what does that look like? Sometimes love is a really soft and gentle, and sometimes love is a really firm no, and so just inviting people into the question of living. What does love look like here? How does love want to express in this situation?

MILCK:

I love that it's such a handy tool to carry around in our pocket. This question of like okay, what does love look like in this moment? I think that's a really useful tool.

Jason:

So let's talk about what we're doing together, because I'm over the moon excited to be just in collaboration with you and who you are, and again, what your music represents, what it stands for, the energy, the vibration, the frequency of it and the impact that it has. And so we are collaborating in an event where we are bringing the power of revelation breathwork, which some people have said is like plant medicine without the plants. Some people have said they feel the music like they've never felt it before.

MILCK:

Other people said similar to it feels like I've had 50 pounds lifted off my chest no-transcript One, because I feel that we are kindred spirits and what we're motivated by feels very kindred, and I absolutely loved the breathwork class that you held. For me Is that the right way of saying it the class that we had together was so cathartic and healing and I want to rewind. Many, many decades ago, my third grade teacher told me if you're ever worried or something doesn't feel good, just take three deep breaths and things will feel better. I held onto that like nobody's business and I used that for years and years and years. And then like getting into more curated experiences, like Revelation, breathwork.

MILCK:

I personally say like I encounter a spiritual, like I'm going to say God. I encounter God in moments of it. Some people will say universe, some people will use different words, source, but I encounter like a returning to source, very similar to what people say, like their near-death experiences, feel, like it's like this light, this feeling. So I just I think it's a really powerful tool that a lot of people would benefit from. Right now, things are very tense in the world and we're all trying to figure out who we want to be in the face of this cultural shift, and I think tools like this will help us feel and think more clearly. So, yeah, and I'm really excited to partner with you in creating this playlist.

MILCK:

I was saying to you earlier that it'll be interesting for me to hear it, like everyone else hears it. I don't know if that's possible. Like filmmakers say, they never get to watch the movie that they make. Like I don't know if I'll get to listen, but I'm going to try. I think, most importantly, I'm going to breathe with whoever joins and that's what matters to me. So I'm really looking forward to hearing how the music and then your Revelation Breathwork framework is going to impact people tribal music, music without lyrics.

Jason:

But there's something about playing at least for me and our community about playing music that the lyrics are on point and your lyrics are. It's poetry, it's real life, it's the ups and the downs, the raw, the vulnerable, the courageous, the scared. It's like it's the human experience and the practice of this act of breath really gets us out of our thinking brain. It kind of shuts it off and it drops us into the body, into the heart, into more of a feeling, a different layer of listening to that small voice, still small voice, inside.

Jason:

And what you shared was my experience of like, oh, I am aware of my capital S self, not my ego self, but like the true self of me in this spiritual experience, with something so simple as the breath. And then you bring in your music, the power of the heart, gold, steady as we go, the mystery of me. Let's go. Let's go on a journey of the human experience to release all the heavy we're carrying, to open the heart and feel the expansiveness of who we really are. It's like all of it, it's your heart and your soul and the divine. I know this is going to be an extraordinary experience for anyone who hears anything that we've talked about and it's like, oh, I want some of that or I want more of that or that resonated, anyone who resonates with your music at all, this will be.

Jason:

It will be a unique experience of of milk's music, of your own relationship with yourself and how the meat, what the music evokes inside of you. So, um, you know I'm not a big promoter and definitely not a self promoter, but this is going to be awesome and if you come, it will change you in it, because it's a space of love and only love heals and you will receive some kind of healing, some kind of insight, some kind of revelation that you hadn't had. That will shift you in beautiful ways. So that is my invitation, on behalf of maybe both of us, to anyone who's listening.

MILCK:

Yes, and to tie it into the macro, if anyone is feeling scared, uncertain and stuck on how to be a human that they would be proud of being. As the world is shifting in many ways, sometimes we are forced to put our feelings aside. To function, pay our rent, go to work and to rob ourselves of grief is too big of a cost because it robs us of our sensory knowing and it makes us confused as to how we should move forward. Music. I'm hoping and I feel pretty confident that whoever joins this will get closer to their humanness and be able to kind of clean off and wipe off everybody else's agenda and remember what's important to themselves, so that they can proceed to figure out what is important for them to contribute to in the world now. And you won't find that answer right away, maybe you will but you'll get closer, and that's what I do this for is so that I can stay close, get closer to what my highest form of service could be.

Jason:

Well said Milk. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah, so powerful. So where can people who don't already know you, where can they learn more about you? Where can they follow you? Where can they get more milk in their life?

MILCK:

Other than the one in the dairy fridges in your grocery stores. You can go onto any streaming platform and search M-I-L-C-K. Milk, m-i-l-c-k. And I post pretty regularly on Instagram and I try to share content that will make you feel better about your day. That's my hope. And then I have an email list and I send out little illustrations and personal updates and just perks for people who are part of that list. So please keep in touch.

Jason:

Yeah, and check out the new album Mother Tongue, get it on vinyl, because vinyl always is better, and come to our event on June 1st. So, milk, here's the final bonus question for you, which you did not want to know ahead of time, which is great. When you're not making music, we're changing the world. What's one of your secret guilty pleasures?

MILCK:

Oh my gosh, right now I am watching Succession for the third time as I it's I think it's my emotional regulator Like I just have the show on as I'm cleaning the house or making breakfast but I just I have that family just bickering and scheming as background and that might say something about like my childhood wounding, but it feels very comforting. So we're loving Succession right now, but I'm one of those people that likes to rewatch a thing and have it in the background as like a comfort, like almost like a blanket.

Jason:

So relatable. That's awesome, so real. I'm so glad that you were asked that question. We'll dive into that in the next episode.

MILCK:

Yeah, we will.

Jason:

Milk. Thank you so much. You are such a joy and a breath of honest, fresh, loving air in this world and grateful that you are here, Appreciate you so much.

MILCK:

When you got it, you spot it. So I say the same to you. Thanks, jason, Thank you.