For our latest episode, we're joined by Jacqui Gifford – the intimidatingly well-travelled editor-in-chief of Travel + Leisure. She has lived, worked, and written about so much of the world, and that spirit of worldliness was reflected in our conversation. We spoke about chimpanzees, childhood, cosmopolitanism, and comfort zones – and much, much more. In Jacqui’s words, travel can make us hyper-aware of our surroundings. And it is precisely this intensified feeling of awareness that is what makes travel so alive – and so seriously captivating. We hope you enjoy listening.