Lamar Jaxon Dart

What do the Giants do at #5 and #10 now? Any chance the Raiders pass on Mendoza? If there is a football God, the Cowboys will make this one trade - Lakers up 2-0, and the KD Legacy - WAIT... THE BEARS COULD BE MOVING?! And a lot more

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

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SPEAKER_03 1:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Yo, it's so wild because like I get the premise because kids, like the whole bubblegum thing, that's that's been their jam, right? That's why they did it with uh with mouthwash and things like that. Like, you want to try to get kids active in taking care of their bodies, but bubblegum broccoli, I cannot get behind. I don't get that at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

No, um anything bubblegum flavored is a no for me. It's bubblegum flavor, cotton candy flavored. No, I'm cool. I'm cool. Yeah, it doesn't really so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

If it's not like original bubblish bubble gum, you can just you can keep it moving.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

And that damn flavor only lasts about 15 seconds, so it's twice as long as uh fruit stripes, that zebra gum and juicy fruit. They let's not forget big league chew.

SPEAKER_01 2:27

Oh man, big yeah, big league chew takes the L on that one too. They're there at least the gum consistency with Big League Chew is like because you've had those amateur things where it's something that can turn into gum, like blow pops and things like that, where the gum consistency is just awful. Big League Chew at least gets it right where it's something that's shredded that doesn't look like gum, but at least it turns into gum.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Yeah, yeah. I haven't had it in years. Maybe you know, maybe that's what I'll do. I gotta go find some big league chew this weekend and throw fastballs at the boys.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

On top of that, so I love the fact that you brought that up because it, you know, softball season is a around the corner, and my my wife plays softball, and we'll go to these gas stations and we'll look for different like big league chews or sunflower seeds. And have you found a certain flavor of sunflower seed that just kind of blew you away that you didn't even know existed? Because when they had like the Taco Bell sunflower seeds and the mac and cheese one, the bacon mac and cheese ones. I thought this is a wrap, man. It's it's over.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

So I have not had flavored sunflower seeds in at least 20 years. Like, I'm just at this point oh really buddy, and it's just like just give me the original. Because I would eat my go-to was ranch, and then I would eat the barbecue, and it just something happened with my taste buds where they were just disgusting to me out of nowhere. So if I eat sunflower seeds, it's just the OG original. I did see that they have some what's it called? Like some cinnamon sugar. They got like churro, yeah. And I'm like, hmm, I might try it, but I haven't I haven't had the balls to do it.

SPEAKER_01 4:25

I don't like I don't know if I'd like those ones specifically, because I'm with you. Like, sometimes like all you need is just the original sunflower seed, and that's good. The ranch was kind of my jam for a bit. Again, the barbecue one, the pickle ones, those are fire too. I just I don't know if I can get down with like this, like a cinnamon sugar sunflower seed. I feel like like those flavor profiles would just kind of clash too much.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah, yeah. Give me one second. It's uh today's a big day here in Illinois. They're voting on the Bears, getting a tax break, so we'll know if the Bears are moving to Indiana or if they're gonna stay in Chicago.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Whoa, whoa, that hold on. That is that's worthy of a that's some breaking news.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

What was going on? So the Bears are trying to build a new stadium. Um, the problem is they want a tax break for it. They're like, hey, if we're bringing all these new jobs and stuff, and we're paying for the stadium with no public funding, you can at least give us a tax break. It's been an argument for months, and they're voting on it at 1 15 central time. So that is in what 30 minutes? Yeah. So we'll see what happens. Because the NFL wants a decision by next week if they're staying in Illinois or moving to Indiana.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

I this doesn't okay. So I obviously have I'm blown away by this story because I haven't heard how this has not come across my timeline at all is bananas, considering it's the Chicago Bears, because they're one of those iconic historic franchises. I have not seen one thing about this. Regardless of what you think will happen, do you think the NFL might even step in just say, nah, Chicago is not leaving Illinois? India, the Bears in Indiana. We had this conversation last week about Indiana. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

It's a huge deal because we're talking revenue and billions of dollars and things like that. Either going to go to the state of Illinois or State of Indiana, as a Bears fan, it's like they're going like 10 minutes across the Illinois border. So to me, from that standpoint, it's not a big deal. But as far as like jobs and the economy, it's huge. Like you're talking about them building a stadium in Arlington Heights, which is five minutes from where I work. Hell shit, I want to get a job down there. Like, hell, I'll leave this. Like it's it can be huge. Um, the Bears, I want to say they spent like uh $30 million on a couple acres out here and they'll own it completely. My thing from a business standpoint, and to me, it makes more sense to go to Indiana because Indiana's telling you, like, hey, we'll give you the land, we'll pay for the stadium, and you just pay us back when you can. So from that standpoint, I feel like that's that's that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

You don't want to be caught with your pants down with the checks in the mail. Yeah, we'll pay you when we can.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

I don't know. I know they don't want to leave Illinois. Like, you got some idiot bears fans. If they leave the city of Chicago, I don't care if it's still Illinois, I'm not a fan, then kick rocks. Like, I don't care where they play. I bleed orange and blue, so it don't matter.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

I just feel like when you when you bring up the economic uh the impact that it has, it is kind of wild because I've made this argument for years, and some people don't want to hear it, is that a lot of these owners don't really care about the teams themselves, they care about what they can do from what are we what are we generating revenue-wise when the season isn't going on, you know. And I'm not sure if Indiana really has much more to offer than Illinois does. Um, the only thing I care about, or the only thing I think about when I do word association with Indiana, we went over this a little bit, but from the sports perspective is the combine. Like, that's the only thing I I don't I don't feel like I think about anything else about Indiana except for that. I mean, maybe maybe the Indy 500, but like there's an economy base that goes with it, like LeBron's own economy. Every time that he goes somewhere, like Ohio, they need they needed him to make them relevant. And again, with owners, like it's a toy for the most part, and they're trying to say, like, that's why Dallas is such an important part of everything, because you can sell Arlington Stadium for everything and anything, and Jerry Jones is like the Cowboys are good, but I'm making money every other avenue as well.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Yeah, yeah, and this is like it's huge because you're talking about being able to host the final four, WrestleMania's, like stadium tours and stuff like that. Like that, that's huge. Like, hell, I want a final four here. I want to like you could get it. Now, they don't do the cold weather Super Bowls too often, but like you can get a you know, you can get a Super Bowl. And from what I've read is like they've told the Bears, like, hey, if you build this, we'll at least give you one Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Like, that's always the Super Bowl location's always been funny to me.

SPEAKER_00 10:15

Ryan knows what he did.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Um, I haven't seen Ryan in a group chat in forever, and for him just coming off the top rope out of nowhere and getting blindsided was hella funny.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

Yeah, he he knows bear down belongs to us. Like, but that's okay. Um, yeah, like when All-Star Weekend was here in Chicago, it was like the first time since '86. What was that, 2020? Like, it was crazy. Like, Chicago's gonna always show out for events. Like, we're gonna put on our Sunday best, and people are gonna have a like if we can't do nothing here, we can have a good time.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

You're like the New Orleans of the uh Midwest.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Oh yeah, right. Except we're not gonna get well. Let me not let me be quiet. Let me not see.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

And put the we'll put the silencer on for right now. We haven't we haven't quite we haven't quite gotten to the Detroit uh portion of the show yet.

SPEAKER_00 11:28

Yeah, because I was man uh New Orleans was about to catch a stray for no reason.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

So back to the chat real quick. Uh Nigel says if Gary Indiana steals the bears from Chicago, they just nuke the entire city council. But the thing is, like, I mean, Sierra, you made some good points too. I I mean from an economic standpoint, like this, there's there's layers to this that I think that I think what most people are going to take away from this interaction, if it is if they do actually relocate, is that maybe there was something else underneath the surface that was done in like some back alley channels that wasn't on the up and up. It can it can make sense on multiple levels, and like if the only thing if the only thing that's getting hurt is your fanhood, that's one thing. But if there's something else that's being done behind the scenes that's diabolical and nefarious from an ecosystem of not just Bear's fans, but the state of Illinois, I feel like that that's where some of the the disconnect and some of the like not believing everything that you hear is going to is gonna uh raise its head.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Yeah, you know, like fans don't care about nuance, but there's there's nuance to it, like it it just is like the fans want like okay, the bears should be in Illinois. I get it, but you're talking about billions and billions of dollars, and and that's what talks at the end of the day. So I believe Arlington long term is better because you own everything, you can make your own like Bears Village, like the plan is to put hotels over there. They bought what's called Arlington Racetrack. It's it's a good amount of acres, it's huge. So, but if Indiana's gonna pay for everything, it's kind of hard to turn that down. Yeah, I mean it it is, and the McCaskies aren't like other owners where it's like, oh, we own Heinz or we own Walmart. The McCaskey business is the Bears, so that's where their money comes from.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

It's about as close to the mom and pop shop that you could possibly get. Like the Lakers are a team that we we don't, you know, it's weird because you don't really associate Lakers with small franchise, but it's family owed, and like you said, McCaskey. Like, that's that's that is their that's their business, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

They're not the Rheinsdorfs, cheap bastards.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

So we can do I want it because like the NFL draft is um yeah, I'm I'm become such it's a bad fan. Okay, I thought it started on Thursday. So we've talked a little bit about the NFL draft and what you want Chicago to address. There's been some some shifts in the the draft landscape, and I don't know if as a as a Bears fan, with and those two teams don't really matter in in this grand scheme of things when it comes to the Giants and the Bengals, but if one position moves, if one domino falls, something else has to. So, not necessarily do you think that the Cincinnati trade with the Giants for Dexter Lawrence matters that much, but with that being said, do you feel like it changes Chicago wanting to move up or down any any further or address any situation? Or now that we've also had some time and the draft is actually tomorrow, have you kind of pivoted on what you think Chicago should do with their draft pick?

SPEAKER_00 15:14

You you you take the best player available, and if there's an opportunity to trade down and pick up extra draft capital, you do that. Like, I feel like when you're picking in the back half of the first round, you're number one, like, unless somebody's falling to you that just like, wow, I didn't expect this person to be there, you should always look to trade back and pick up more assets. Like, if my hope is that somehow Ty Simpson is still on the board when the Bears pick, and either an Arizona or the Jets is somebody's trying to trade back into the first round and get them.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

So I'm so glad that you mentioned that because I know that video games aren't real life, but every once in a while I'll look back and I go, this could probably work. And I was thinking about this. So that the Titans have the number four pick. They already drafted Cam Warden. You could say he wasn't had an up and down rookie season, I get that. But if you're the Titans, would you draft from or would you trade from number four to number one? Just so you have the opportunity to have the number one overall pick. Because now, again, as somebody who watches college football on you, if Fernando Mendoza hadn't won a natty, let's just let's put that all off the board. Do you think he's just definitively would he still be the number one overall pick?

SPEAKER_00 16:40

If if Dante Moore goes back to school, he's probably still the number one pick, even if they don't win the natty.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Okay, so if there's no one else. So if Mendoza is the unanimous number one overall pick, what I would do is I would I would treat it like Madden. I would trade up to get the number one overall pick, even if I'm Tennessee, because I have my quarterback, but I get the number one overall pick, and then oh, Mendoza's a guy. What do you want now? And I would just keep trading back and trading back and trading back, especially if I'm a team like the Jets, like the Titans, make the initial investment to get the however you got to get the number one overall pick. Go get that, and then go get a King's ransom for it after the fact. Because if you're trading up to get the number one pick and you don't need a quarterback, someone's saying, Well, what do they know that we don't? And then it becomes a guessing game. I per will it ever happen? Probably not, but I'm just saying that's how I would try to at least play it from the GM side.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

You you've been watching draft day. No, I would never, I would I would never act like the Browns.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

I love that movie, be honest with you. People say it's I love it. It's corny as hell. It's it's it's entertaining enough, but it it's so bad that it's good.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Yeah, yeah. I love now. I've said from day one, like I'm not, I believe Mendoza has a high floor. I don't think he has a the Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Pat. I don't think he's one of those.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I think you don't think he's Michael Jordan, the ceiling is the roof.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

No, I think the ceiling is like a Jared Golf. I think that's the ceiling, and it's still a pretty damn good quarterback. I've said it, if I'm the Raiders, I would have been traded the pick because I would rather have a boatload of picks in next year's draft because of all the players potentially coming out next year.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

Now, that's so that is the thing too, is I feel like everybody believes that Mendoza will be the number one overall pick. One thing I want to get to as a follow-up after this question is is there any chance that the Raiders do raider things and then like draft a kicker number one overall? Or just like they think they trade. Is the Mendoza line really just a front and they actually do trade back? Or do you think like this is a this is set in stone? It's Mendoza and it's a rap.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

It's set in stone, it's set in stone. It's it's a done deal. Mendoza's going to Vegas. I just I don't know. I'm not sold on him. I would I love Julian Saiyan, so I would rather wait a year and take him if I can. Like you tell me the Jets are like, hey, we want number one. Okay, come on. I think y'all will be ass next year. So come get this pick, and I'll be drafting one and two next year. And I'm gonna take Julian Saiyan and Jeremiah Smith, and then we're gonna ride from there. We already got Bowers and Genty. Let's roll. There is there is a science.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

That's that's the way you do it, though. I there is a science to being bad and being bad on purpose without it. Look, I don't know. I feel like most fans are when it comes to tanking. I feel like when you know you're super far away, most fans are kind of okay with the transaction of doing that, but also there's gotta be a level of acting, there's gotta be some theatrics like you're trying to win. But oh gosh darn it, gee Willakers. If just we had good enough players, once we get back to the chat, uh Ryan Davis says, please know Simpson lol. And when we're talking about the the jets, he goes, but that that is some jet. Just wanting to move up, acquire all the picks, and then and then and then move back. But um, yeah, so as far as the bears, you think that it's just best available player? Do you see them moving up uh either back or forwards, or do you think they they stay pat at where they are and just again just take the best available player?

SPEAKER_00 21:11

If I could see them moving up, if one of the pass rushers can you know drop into their range to trade up, I don't think they're gonna trade into like the top 10. But if one of them falls to like 15, 16, I could see them, they got two second-round picks. I could see them giving up one to go up and get a pass rusher. I couldn't see them trading up for anything other than that.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

I'm at the point now where with Buffalo, I don't know what to do anymore. I I feel like they've largely drafted. I I I don't, man, because they they draft them the late 20s, early thirties, and there's just so many deficiencies on that roster that. I don't know what you do. Do you because they I don't think they have a second round pick this year. So if you want to mortgage the future, and I I think I'm kind of okay with that mentality. I've always been on record of saying I'd rather have the proven player than the pick because the pick could always flame out. And if you know what you need, and that's kind of what Cincinnati did. Now, I to get kind of to the Cincinnati portion of this with them trading for Dexter Lawrence, is I have no problem trading for the proven commodity as opposed to hoping and wishing because the draft is only that. The draft is selling you hope, and the the proven talent is really what matters. So I think that the Cincinnati trade to me does it makes sense because it addresses a need. I don't think it fixes their defense, but also with like just to get back to Buffalo for a second, is bro, like you might as well give up if you think this is the window, because your window was started two or three years ago and it's about to end it about another two. Go ahead and give up your first rounders, move up. Like you got to get an impact guy on defense, you got to get multiple guys on defense. Number 30 pick, though it doesn't, it doesn't move the needle for me, man. You're not gonna get anybody anybody of impact. You need a corner, you need a safety, you need an off offball linebacker, you need an edge rusher, you need a D tackle, you need a number one wide receiver, and just God, what the hell is Buffalo doing? Or is ride number 17 as much as they can, and at some point in time, it's just not gonna do anything for you.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

No, no, but it all comes down to your scouting. Like, you find gems, like you find gems all the time. Like you said y'all like they need an off-ball linebacker. I'm a huge Anthony Hill fan out of Texas. I would love for the Bears to be able to trade back into the early second round and take them. But shit, y'all take him at 30. I think he'd be a hell of a fit. Now, do you want to take an off-ball linebacker in the first round?

SPEAKER_01 24:06

It's it's just weird to me because like everything I've seen, because I I again, as somebody who doesn't watch college football, I don't want to be. I'm not gonna be up here and pretend like I'm Mel Kuyper, even though I'm probably still better than Mel Kuper at this. Uh, like D-tackle seems to be what they're addressing, which I get. It's a it's a position of knee. The bear or the Bills allowed over five yards of carry last year. So addressing the interior line that makes sense, but it's also by like the same token. If you're the Bills, if you're at the 30th pick and you got no second round pick, give up some first move up and just make it look like you're trying to do something. Initiate the smoke screen and then maybe get more second-round picks. Do something because there's so many holes this Bills team has to fill to legitimately get somewhere, and it's just frustrating seeing the same damn thing year after year after year with this squad.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Well, I mean, Caden McDonald might fall to you. He might. The D tackle out of Ohio State. He's he's a big boy, so you know, he's you might not even have to give up a first round pick. You might you know, might make another trade with the Bears. Trade up to you know, 25, grab them. We'll take your second round pick next year, too. We got the one this year, so let's get to be good.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Well, I want to I want to ask uh because since Ryan's still here and he goes, same brother, same. And I and it's weird because I know that the Bills and Bears are on, I'm sorry, the the the Bills and Jets are on, they've been on two different wavelengths, they've been on two different trajectories over the past, you know, let's just call it the Josh Allen era. And this is not for me to like kind of poke fun at anything, but I do want to ask him if he can put in the chat what he's looking to do because with the Jets having the number two overall pick, and Geno Smith is their quarterback this year, allegedly, right now. Um, as a Jets fan, where would you let them to go with the number two pick? Would it go defense? Do you want to trade back, things like that? And while we're doing that, um as to to get back while we while we wait for a response, CR, what was what was your initial reaction when it came to Cincinnati trading for Dexter Lawrence? Did you think it was an overreach because of the salaries making and the draft position, or did you think it was a smart move? What what's kind of your what was your initial reaction when you saw that come across your timeline?

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Feel like they're desperate. Feel like Cincinnati was desperate. Like that that's genuinely how I felt about it. Like they, I get it. You need a pass or you need something on defense. But man, the 10th pick in the draft for Dexter Lawrence, not that he's not a really good player, but if I'm gonna give up the 10th pick in the draft, I would have rather called Tennessee and trying to get you know Simmons instead of Dexter Lawrence if I'm giving up the 10th pick in the draft. Like that's a you know, if you told me they gave up their two this year and a three next year, okay, cool. But Jesus Christ, a top 10 pick.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Top 10 is pretty steep, and and I think I think that's where the margins lie. Is that if you were a defense, like if you were Buffalo, and that's the thing. So if this were Buffalo doing this, I would be on board because there's enough pieces. I still Matt Milano is getting up in age, but I like Terrell Bernard. Um, I cole bishop enough. Greg Rousseau's fine. Like, if you make that trade to get a proven defensive in interior defensive threat at number 10 and get the proven guy, I would actually be pretty okay with it. But Cincinnati's defense is so awful that I'm with you. Like, yes, you address a point of need, but damn, he is not gonna fix you. But I think what some people are doing right now is because what Dallas did this past year when they traded Micah away and then they got Quentin Williams, they go, Well, see, you can you can flip him, you can do this and that. I feel like that's just kind of disingenuous and kind of in the moment seeing what worked one time. I don't think that this moves the needle for Cincinnati at all. They're gonna be better, they won't be 30th in the NFL in defense, but what what 27th is gonna be better? I mean it is, but it ain't. Oh, I think CR got stuck for a moment. But so I'll get to the chat real quick because Ryan actually did get back to us. He goes, if uh honestly, I prefer oh there, there's CR. Um, but there's still a little bit of buffer. I'll I'll fill a buster so we can get you.

SPEAKER_00 29:07

I genuinely don't think they're knowing what the hell they're doing over there. And sorry, that was Joe Burrow and end up being in that damn areno. Just a great quarterback.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Sorry, we had a lot of a lot of a lag. You're you're frozen on the screen. Your audio came through a little bit, but there was about a 10-second delay where there wasn't really much going on. Um, I'll get to the chat, then I want you to repeat that so we can we can get back to you. Ryan says, honestly, I prefer to just take Reese or Bailey at two and then get the best available wide receiver at 16, but I don't hate trading back either, but feel like we have too many holes to go later than that, like the 10th. And also, if we take Ty Simpson with 16, I'm gonna riot just just live with Gino if we get bad, or if we if we are bad, get the QB next season. Which I I mean I can get that. I I feel like the Jets are so far away, and this isn't trying to be derogatory towards Jets fans or Ryan Davis, because I I like Ryan. Um, but man, like there's there's a lot of there's a that's a big, it's a steep hill to climb if you're the New York Jets. So I get the whole wanting to trade back thing. I wasn't sure at number two if you want to move the two seed back or if you'd be willing to trade the 616, but yeah, I'm with you. Ty Simpson to me is just somebody who I feel like you're just getting a replication of Mac Jones and you don't want that.

SPEAKER_00 30:30

Yeah, no, I wouldn't touch Ty Simpson with a first round pick, but I'm hoping somebody does. This is what's going on this is what's oh go ahead, sorry. I was gonna say I love how can I say it? I love the Jets war chest going forward. I just wish the Jets had a better they were a better organization. Like they got three first round draft picks next year. Like that's that's nice, but it then you look and it's like, oh, it's still the Jets making the picks.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

It's it's weird, it's weird how we get there, right? Because we do we land like, oh well, this team with X amount of draft picks in the first round, or you know, the further first 50. You can't mess this up, right? And depending on the team, you go, yeah, it's kind of what you're gonna do. And that's kind of what I feel like with with the Dallas Cowboys, I honestly believe, and this I'm not trying to do this as a hot take thing, but all the misdirection of we want to go ahead and address defense, they've kind of done that to a degree, but the most Dallas Cowboy thing ever would be you know what we're gonna do? Trade up and go get Carnell Tate. Like, I feel like that's completely on the board, and that's something that these knuckleheads would do, dude.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

It's like I love the Cowboys roster. I really do. I'm super high on them. If I'm the Cowboys, I take the they got two first round, I take the two best defensive players on the board regardless of position, and just let's go. The offense is ready to roll. You just need defense. You got rid of Iberfuck, so that'll help. You you hate that man so much.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

It's it's it's vitriol, dude. I'll beat buddy ass if I go.

SPEAKER_00 32:55

Dusty Baker, like Mark Tressman.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

I didn't know Tressman was on your list. I I understand Tressman, but I knew that you want if like if you saw Dusty Baker, even with him being like 83 years old, if you met him in the rates, I know you want.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

I'm a I'm a I'm a Nancy Kerrigan's ass if I see Dusty Baker, bro. Followed by the American history X style curb stomp. It's funny that you ruined Mark Pryor.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

Bro, the fact that you brought up Nancy Kerrigan is wild to me because like I never really had like celebrity crushes as a kid, but Nancy Kerrigan, like when I was 11, Nancy Kerrigan was my first celebrity, if you will, or athlete crush. And I want if I had the same thing about Tanya Harding. If I ever saw her, I would I would fight her in the streets. All of my all of my you don't put your hands on women things will go out the window because I would die for Nancy Kerrigan when I was like 11 years old, dude.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

My first crush was Tyra Banks.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

So I'm trying to remember the timeline of that now because Ty Tyra was up there for me. Honest, Gabby Union was always like now that I'm older, I'm glad that I I've evolved as a person. But um, like but Gabby Union was my was was my my top tier for and I I told it to my wife and she goes, I fucking get it. Oh, I I cussed. Oops, I usually edit myself. I do it on purpose. She goes, I get it. I know, I know, but you know, but she goes, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Yeah, no, um love Tyra, loved Lark Vouries before before she started. Oh, Lark Voorhees, yeah. Yeah. Loved Michelle Williams, loved Michelle Williams. Not the Michelle Williams from Dawson's Creek, not that one. The one from um no, not her. The one from Family Matters that played Myra. Loved her. What what what character did she portray? She played Steve Urkel's girlfriend. Kelly? No, no. She played Urkel's girlfriend, Myra.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

Why is it it's I watched a lot of family marriage back in the day. I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_00 35:25

Myra Monkhouse. Yeah, I I loved her. Can that's when I should have known, like, there's probably something wrong with me back then because she was like so toxic. But I should have known life was gonna end up like this. Like, what are you doing? I'm gonna say many girls at school that like to fight, so it's like it was man.

SPEAKER_01 36:01

The the the 90s had us in a in a chokehold of trying to figure out what we wanted. Was it uh Topenga? Was it uh Pink Ranger? Was it um Ashley from Kapowski? Kelly Kapowski, was it Ashley from Fresh Prince? Like the like the early nines when we were kids, man, it was you getting you would get into legit fights over those arguments. Absolutely, you know, it was like playing James Bond or Mario Kart, like friendships ended on those types of things.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Used to rip the pages out of magazines, tape them in your lockers, and stuff like that. Do kids still do that?

SPEAKER_01 36:39

Like I don't know. There's dude, there's no way they still do that now.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yeah, my kids don't even own magazines, so the only magazines that kids own now go in a gun because they're not mentally still.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

Oh, god, you know, that's a conversation for another time, anyway. Back to back to sports because we got off a tangent. Um, all right, so Lakers, Rockets. I was told that this was supposed to be a sweep of Houston, and I mean, okay, so going into the series, I didn't think that LA would get swept. I don't I think LeBron, even in his age, is good enough to still steal you a game. It doesn't matter which one it is, zero through one through four, he's good enough to kind of win you a game by himself. The problem is they got two now. And I'm not big into the the way that we digest sports is if X if X player loses in this fashion that that deteriorates his career, it uh it changes how we should think of him. But the Kevin Durant one is kind of starting to make more sense to me now because when when I was told through the landscape is if if if kevin durant loses to him, this is an indictment on his career. And again, I don't really usually believe that, but man, when the only chips you got is with Golden State and you lived in the Western Conference Finals or the finals for like the first 10 years of your career, and you can't get out of the second round of the playoffs basically on on the back, the back nine. I don't like to use the whole you can play yourself out of the hall of fame because he's not gonna do that, but we did it with Russell Wilson, kind of was like he kind of played himself out of the hall of fame, and but it does kind of change the way that I look at Kevin Durant when I never I never thought that I would, but I'm in a spot now where I'm kind of getting to that point of man, if you lose to this Lakers squad, damn, maybe it maybe it is you.

SPEAKER_00 38:57

You got KD, Alfred Shangoon, both all-stars, amend Thompson, Jabari Smith, Reed Shepard, Tari Eason. Like you have a nice team over there. LeBron is 41 years old, and I get it, KD's like 37, but LeBron's 41 years old, and he's out there with Marcus Smart, Rui Achimora, Luke Kennard, and you're that old to Luke Kennard.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

So I actually watched the second half of last night's game, but I got home from work. I had enough time where I could actually watch the second half, and I go, when did Luke Kennard start caring about anything other than just open threes?

SPEAKER_00 39:42

Look, I mean, he was out there looking better than everybody on the Rockets the other night. Mark Smart didn't turn back the clock to Boston. Like, the Rockets should be embarrassed. I'm embarrassed for him. Like, you are a heavy, heavy favorite coming into the season. But I like Kevin Durant is with a bunch of players who aren't playmakers. But if you look at Kevin Durant's career, he's always had an elite playmaker with him.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

Yeah, he had Russ. Yeah, he had Russ, he had Curry, he had Kyrie and or Harden, however you want to look at them.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

Then had Devin Booker, who's maybe not an elite playmaker, but is still a playmaker nonetheless. So now he's with a bunch of young guys who are really out there trying to establish themselves in the league and get to those second and third contracts. And yeah, it's gonna be an indictment on him. Like, you haven't won without Steph Curry, without hopping on the bandwagon. Kevin Durant is one of the greatest talents the NBA's ever seen. But when we talk about all-time greats, how many times do we talk about the dudes who never won as the guy?

SPEAKER_01 41:10

I think the only guys like the Stockton Malones come up, but I think that that's because it that was a combo, right? That was an individual, like it was a it's two individuals as a combo that we we put pair in pair with each other. But I think as far as like Grace, who never won one, that we actually give a lot of credence to really is Chuck or Dominique. Like those are two dudes who we who we legitimately think of those are greats who never won one. But everybody else, like you say, like with with with KDs, when we yeah, you have your rings, but I mean the the bit I'm always this this conversation piece always makes me weird because I don't believe in the whole rings culture thing, but because they can't take them away from you, but it is okay to put like an asterisk behind it seems a little bit too over the top, but to say with context saying, Yeah, but you know what you did, and I feel like that's the whole thing with KD is yeah, you got them, but you know what you did, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:17

You you went and joined a 73 and nine team. Yes, they lost in the finals the year prior, but they knocked your ass out the playoffs, they won a championship without you, and then what further to me what further hurts is you left and then they won again without you, right?

SPEAKER_01 42:38

I and I think that that's that's the thing because it's it's almost kind of like it's not the same thing with the Tyreek Hill thing with Kansas City, but there was a little bit of that. I mean, because because because Tyreek never left and then came back, but it was well, once you lose Tyreek, what are you gonna do? And once KD left, it said it was it kind of felt like, yeah, but what are you gonna do next time? And it wasn't the next year, it took a couple years for them to get back and get back into form, but yeah, you're right. That that that one probably stings the most is because like Draymond said, We don't need you.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Yeah, he wasn't lying. Like it was a debate going on in one of the group chats, and it was like, well, when Golden State was winning, who was the number one option? Was it Steph Curry or was it KD? And in my opinion, it was Steph. Like KD was KD took Harrison Barnes shots, got a few of Clay's shots, but Steph was still Steph.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Steph was still the engine that drove that car.

SPEAKER_00 43:37

Exactly. Like Steph made it so much easier for KD to be a sniper and efficient, and he was he was a hired gun, he was a mercenary. Yeah, he did his job, but that was still Steph's team.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

I don't think anybody ever really questioned the fact of what it was that going to be Steph's team or not, once KD got. There, I think that Steph had kind of established himself that he was the guy for that franchise. But if anybody wanted to push back and say the reason why Steph was more efficient was because of KD, sure, like I'm open to that argument because again, you're adding a top 10 talent of all time next to arguably the greatest shooter and at the time best offball shooter as well. Yeah, I mean, of course, who are you gonna cheat on? Who are you gonna be able to sag off? Nobody could still have Klay Thompson, too. It was like it was just a ridiculous abundance of riches at the NBA level, and so I mean, I I get it, but to get back more on point of like where I would land it with with Kevin Durant, I I never really put myself, I never thought I would put myself in a position to really kind of discredit another person who I already had as a top 10 talent or a top 20 player, and really start to lean into man, you guys you can't do this against 41-year-old LeBron and a bunch of dudes who arguably nobody else, just a bunch of riff refs, essentially, the Rui Hachamurs and the the Luke Canards and the Market Smarts of the world. Like, man, if you can't do it with this squad or against this squad, excuse me, it just seems like you were a walking bucket, and where are we gonna be at now?

SPEAKER_00 45:24

I I believe Houston will get the next two at home. If they sure as hell better, yeah. If they they have to get the next two. If you if the Lakers get even one, I feel like it's over. It's over.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

I mean, even so, even if the series goes 3-1, like if they split up, it doesn't matter what order, whether Houston wins game three or four, if it goes up three-one, I feel like it's over as well. It could it still go seven games? Sure, but the longer you prolong that series, the longer it takes for either a Austin Reeves and or Luca to get back. And at this point in time, I'm almost wondering if you're up 2-0, even if you get to a 3-1, which which I think that you and I both think will happen. I think, at least for me, I believe that LA will still split one of the will get one of the two W's in Houston. And if you do, I'd almost rather not bring back either of those two guys unless it gets to a game six or seven. I wouldn't play them in game five because you you you clearly have something going with the squad, you have the momentum, and any extra day that you can give either one of those two dudes, you should.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Yeah, and then you bringing them back in the playoff intensity is like, and now you're slipping as far as losing momentum. That can't be good for your health either. Like, I get it, it's do or die, you gotta do what you gotta do, but I mean, I didn't expect the Lakers to be in this position. So to me, they're playing with house money. I know Lakers and Lakers fans don't feel that way, but like y'all are down your first and third best player, and you're up 2-0. You couldn't guess to be in a better position.

SPEAKER_01 47:15

I never felt that I never felt that LA was going to get swept, but I didn't have them winning this series. So, yeah, like I'm kind of I'm kind of with you as far as you do have to. Now it is at least, if you were down 0-2, okay, maybe you force Luca or maybe you don't force them, but Luca or Austin feel more of a pressure to want to play because once your season's over, you've got all the months in the you got four or five months until you can like really get back into playing shape, which isn't a big deal. But if you're up 2-0, I feel like it's okay for you to change your opinion and not try to get them back in a series that you have control over and kind of take a game by game as opposed to having a set schedule of what you thought you would do.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

Yeah, and I mean, at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter who wins the series because they're about to get their asses whooped by OKC, either one of them.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

But is there one injury on OKC where you feel like they would that they could lose in the next round? Because we just saw Wemby, Wemby is in the blue tent, he's in concussion protocol, and like Hoopers know like that that it's called the hardwood for a reason. Yeah, um, that is not there falling.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Yeah, he he sat this shit. Um, it didn't look good. You said is there an injury? Like, I mean, of course, if Shay goes out, I don't believe OKC will win anything other than him, I think they can overcome. Because they got like eight guys who can play. Yeah, and it's just the way they play. Like, it's not like I get it, Shay is the guy, but it's they're not a one-man band. Like, Kasen Wallace can go off, Aaron Wiggins can go off.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Like Chet's not the guy that we thought he would be, but he can he could still.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Yeah, like Chet's more than capable of giving you a 25 and 15 night. So they just they're a team, they play together. I feel like all their egos are checked. Hell, we could see Lou Dork go off and hit seven threes in a game.

SPEAKER_01 49:31

Like that man, he's the most red, he's the most ridiculous and NBA player I can think of in a while because he's built like a linebacker, is okay to shoot threes, will lock you up, and is kind of dirty. Man, he's almost like John Starks, but like not John Starks.

SPEAKER_00 49:51

Yeah, no, yeah. Well, he ain't he ain't light skinned, light skin bones. Oh no, he's he's he's definitely not that. When I tell you, like, I was so mad when the Bulls traded for John Starks. I was oh god bless it.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Yo, that was weird. Can you hear me now? Yeah, I can hear you. Yo, my computer completely shut off.

SPEAKER_00 50:44

Okay, I thought I thought it was me. I'm like, man, what the heck?

SPEAKER_01 50:52

Damn, I think we probably are. Whoa, that was weird because the the countdown, the countdown still says that we're at 50 minutes, so I'm pretty sure that we are still alive. I don't know what just happened. That was bananas. All right, so um in the last 30 seconds, what did you say that I missed?

SPEAKER_00 51:12

Uh, nothing, just about John Starks being a little bitch, and I was upset when he came and played for the Bulls. That was about it. That oh, that was all. Yeah, you know, no lies told.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

What's weird is it's showing it's showing my chopping up a playbook podcast logo now and not my face. This is the last two minutes has been really, really weird. All right, anyway. So to get back to the the the NFL draft real quick, with the Giants now having the fifth and tenth overall pick, what do you think is going to be the the thought process for Jim Harbaugh now that he's he's got number five, got number 10. Is it gonna be more offensively driven, or do you think he's gonna go defense because uh they just got rid of Dexter Lawrence? There's there's a there's a number of different ways that they can go with this now. Because I call it Lamar Jackson dart, because if that man plays like Lamar Jackson, but not being Lamar Jackson, I think it's gonna be a problem.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

I think it's I think they split it. I think they'll go one defender, one wide receiver. Um, I think whoever's on the board at 10, whether it be Carnell Tate or Jordan Tyson, I think that's the pick at 10. And five is going to be whoever they have highest rated defensively. Um yeah, I just I I think it's that. If some unless somehow Jeremiah Love is still on the board at five, I think they might take him.

SPEAKER_01 52:51

The whole Jeremiah Love thing I've seen go a lot of different ways. It's I've seen him go potentially as early as number three to Arizona, which I think is bananas to me, given where where they currently are. Um and my stance on this hasn't changed. Like, I'm okay with you taking um a running back early in the draft because you don't have to pay them the second contract, but your your offense has to be equipped a certain way. That's why I I I didn't like the genty pick to the Raiders last year. I didn't feel like they were equipped to be able to make make the most out of him. I don't mind the pick, I mind the place that he went to. So Arizona, Jeremiah Love, to me, like that is just an overreach at and that's being that's being kind about my words.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

I'm a huge Jeremiah uh love fan. So I'm you know, I might be in the minority. I understand what you're saying, and the reason I'm okay with it for Arizona is because it's Arizona and they don't play in your division. No, um, because Kyler's gone. And they need a face of the franchise. So far has not been Marvin Harrison. I don't know if you really want to consider Trey McBride the face of a franchise, but they need something. And that's why I'm okay with it for Arizona. I'm okay with it for Tennessee because they just need talent. They need talent. And, you know, take them. To me, the he is the second best player in the draft behind Caleb Downs. I believe he's a special back, and that's why I'm okay. Like, I didn't believe Ashon Gente was special. I I still don't think he's an average, I think he's an okay back. I think Jeremiah Love is special. So when you can take these special guys, he's to me, he's in that Jameer Gibbs, B. John, CMC, yeah, Barkley. Oh, well, Ezekiel Elliott was Ezekiel Elliott. I think he's one of those. So I'm okay with them taking him early. And hell, if he slips to five and I'm the Giants, I run to the podium because you put him back there with Dart, and that that read option is gonna be ugly.

SPEAKER_01 55:40

I just where where was Scataboo drafted? Like what position was he? Was he a second or third rounder? Because I I can't remember where he fell initially, but because like people people love the Neander Thaw running back, and it's like well, what are you gonna do with Scataboo? Uh, if you get Jeremiah Love, Scataboo is going to number two or number three on the depth chart immediately. It ain't that hard.

SPEAKER_00 56:03

Scataboo's a he's he's a jag, he's just a guy. Like, he's I love that analogy.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

I love the analogy of calling people jags.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

Like he's he's a solid back, you know. I think he's a good back, but he's not he's not that. He's not he's not that, he's not one of them ones. He's like he's just a guy. I'm trying to find out where he was drafted.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

It was what's annoying to me is like when when we see anything, we did this with Anthony Edwards too, and I know we're kind of cross-pollinating and doing some hyperbole, but like just their games, the way that they look, people saying, like, well, Anthony Edwards reminds me of Michael Jordan. I'm like, isn't that a little premature? Kind of like what Scott Boo would like, he reminds me of Mike Allstott. Don't don't do that.

SPEAKER_00 56:56

Yeah, they're just trying to throw white guy, like no, he's he doesn't remind me of Mike Allstott at all.

SPEAKER_01 57:03

He reminds me of Peyton Hillis, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:06

Okay, yeah, yeah. Such an easy, weird, lame ass comp. He reminds me of Mike Davis. Like, that's that's who I think of when I think of Scatterboot.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

He reminds me of white, he reminds me of White Trent Richardson just running into anything.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

He was a fourth round pick, actually. Fourth rounder, huh? Yeah, so he didn't go to the bench easily.

SPEAKER_01 57:33

I feel like that dude is he's going to capitalize on off-the-field money, is what he's gonna do. Because he's he's uh he's a big enough, uh, he's a big enough name, he plays a certain way, he identifies with a certain group of people who enjoy that brand of football. But NFL NFL contract money, he is not gonna be here for I I wouldn't say I'm not gonna say I would be surprised if he got a second contract. He's just not getting any like real NFL money.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

And I hope I'm wrong. I hope he does, but the way he plays, I just don't see him lasting long enough to get a huge payday.

SPEAKER_01 58:20

No, it's it's way too reckless.

SPEAKER_00 58:23

Yeah. You know, not even to be an as, but he seems like a poster child for CTE.

SPEAKER_01 58:33

No, that's I mean, running joke, we don't want to do that necessarily, but damn, he really is. He is he is the poster child of CE or CTE, like it is yeah, again, he's here for a good time, not a long time.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

Yeah, I hope he's extremely successful. I hope every player that ever touches the grass in the NFL is extremely successful, unless they play for the Packers or the Lions.

SPEAKER_01 59:02

But there, there it is.

SPEAKER_00 59:03

I was gonna say there's a there's a but or an except absolutely I don't have no beef with the Vikings, you know. I don't want them to win, but I don't really hate the Vikings, you know. So, but the Packers, I didn't hate the Lions until a couple years ago.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

It's when they started to get good.

SPEAKER_00 59:20

It didn't even, it's their fans. It's like, bro, y'all ain't did shit. Like, okay, yeah, cool. Y'all won some games. You've also gone winless in a season. That's hard to do.

SPEAKER_01 59:33

Yeah, you have to intentionally try to not win.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

Like, y'all suck. You had Jay Leno talking about how bad y'all suck at one point in time.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

Jay Leno only cares about cars and then not being funny, those are the two things he cares about. Like, you are completely ass, but okay, it is weird lines, but see, and that and that's what's so weird about the fanhood is that like once your team gets good, all of a sudden the people who didn't used to talk all of a sudden want to. And I remember I'm glad that I got out of that toxic phase where you know people will say, Well, what do you know? You're a Bills fan, how good are they? And then Josh Allen comes into year three, and then all of a sudden now I know what I'm talking about. Nothing changed, just the Bills got good, you know. Like, but the fans, the fans are once we get good, all of a sudden we want to come out the woodwork and be annoying as hell on social media. And they you're right, there it's a it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:34

Yeah, that's why, like, as a Bears fan, bro. I'm I just stay on the same plane. Like, I can't talk shit. Like, I'm I don't boast and put my chest out. They ain't one shit. I've never seen the Bears win anything outside, yeah. I saw them win one NFC title. Okay, cool. That you I'm not buying an NFC championship shirt. Like now on my other teams, I'm gonna talk my shit because like I saw the Bulls win six, I've seen the Blackhawks win three, I've seen the Sky win, I've seen the Cubs win. Don't give a damn about the White Sox, they can eat shit, but like I'm not gonna poke my chest out, like, oh that's why I go, that's why I make it personal. Like, I'll talk about your cities like Detroit. It sucks. It's a dump. Wisconsin, it's a dump. Like Wisconsin is Canada's, you know, their reservoir.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:37

Everything just gets funneled and right into there.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Like y'all, just like St. Louis, like y'all drink bush beer. Like, yeah. How old are you?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

Grow up and get bush beer. Oh, what was that? God, what was that that malt liquor? Like, when when we were kids, it was real hot for uh Zima. You're like, why don't you grow up and be an adult and go drink Zima as opposed to to Bush Light?

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

Man, I'll drink some PBR, anything before I touch some Bush Light.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:16

I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you, man, if you come up to Alaska ever, if you hang out with me, you go to a bar and you order a blue moon or a PBR, you are in like Flynn. You are gonna be good. That is that is that is the that is the level of I don't want to say trailer trash because I I've drank it on occasion, but if you just walk up to the bartender and go, PBR, please, you are good.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:47

So the um PBR is what you call it. Um, I use that for like if I'm doing like some beer battered fish. Outside of that, yeah, I'm cool on PBR.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:01

No, I mean if you're doing beer and a chicken, or if you're doing something like that, like you need something for the uh the effervescence, for something for the for the crispiness. Yeah, I mean, I I I get it, but yeah, overall, it's not something I keep in the fridge on purpose, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:20

Like when I use it for beer batter, I'm usually like, hey, do you want the rest of this, or I'm just gonna pour it out? Like, I'm I'm not gonna drink it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

So before we get out of here, I have two things that I want to bring up to you. Uh, well, one, I want you to get your you know, your standard Detroit rant, but I also want to say, um, I'm not much big on TikTok, but I I was scrolling through this morning, and have you ever heard of a show called the Sean Preston Podcast? No, I have not. Okay, so I was scrolling through this morning, and they were talking about because, like, you know how Jack Harlow has kind of gone through his uh I became more black phase? Me too. So apparently, like people have come through and try to give him some really some creative and fun nicknames. And I want to see what I'm not the one of them I left off because I don't really understand it, but I want to get your your opinion on these top four nicknames for Jack Harlow, Music Snowchild.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:31

Do you like that? Not in the least bit, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:35

You know who Music Soul Child is, though, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, that was my guy growing up.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:42

So Music Snow Child, you're not a fan. No, no. I mean, he's not cock, he's not cockeyed enough for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

That's half crazy, dog. That's half crazy. How about uh because you know, with uh Elvis and Justin Timberlake, white people taking the culture, Delaware stole. I like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:09

That I thought that was funny. See, but I give I don't feel like Jack Harlow is a culture vulture. Like I feel like he really does like embrace he's not trying to. I feel like that's he's authentically him, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

That's fair. I I don't listen to a whole lot of his music, but I've heard him talk in interviews, and I kind of get the same vibe.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

Yeah, like you can tell Justin Trumper, like, you know, he he not bumping in the club when he, you know, is at home. He's listening to Nickelback.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

So like Oh, so so I'm I'm the other person then because I am I am told I'm I'm cleaning the house and I'm listening to 50 and Lil Wayne and the game and everything else.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:00

When I play and I'm listening to Anita Baker and Tony Braxton and Luther Vandros.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

So it really does it depends on what I'm yeah. I I I'm with you because sometimes I'll just I'll put on some Johnny Gill. Like if I'm sweeping the floor and I'm like the whole my my my I'm sweeping the floor, it's like my just like going back and forth.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

Now if I'm doing yard work, I'm blasting like some DMX, what's my name? Because I'm trying to I'm trying to kill this soil.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:32

Thank you. I love I love how you did that because I do the exact same thing. Depending on what I'm doing around the house, my mode completely shifts.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:42

Yeah, like I'm if I'm trying to, you know, turn this soil over, which I gotta do this weekend because I'm gonna put down some sod and not looking forward to that. But God, now I gotta check the weather for this weekend because I did order sod.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:00

Sorry, I'm that's no, you're hey, you're good, man. This is a safe space as grown adults. Like we we are allowed to talk about adult things. I think that this this is the window portion of the episode, which is I know that for some people is gonna be hey, why y'all not talking sports? Because it's our show, this is how we do things. Um, I again I'm gonna do it now because I forgot to do it again. Make sure to like, share, subscribe, smash the five-star reviews. You can find the playbook podcast wherever you get your podcast for free. Don't be a jerk. Um, but I'm with you because I have to do I have to do yard work too. And this evening, I am going to be filling up my truck with all the crap that we need to get rid of to do that in the morning. Um, but I want to get back to two, two more what I thought were funny Jack Harlow uh nicknames, and then anything that you have on the way out. White Clef John.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:56

That's just funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:10

And so this this last one, like you you and I talked about just a few minutes ago. You don't think that Jack Harlow necessarily kind of vultures off of the culture, but I thought this was funny and it kind of transitions into the last one, um, Thief Sweat.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:28

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

I know I know it doesn't it doesn't land the same way given what we were talking about, but what about D'Angelo? No, oh see, the problem is I didn't have any of my own that I wanted to put out there. And I if we're gonna get a battle of the wits, you're gonna you're gonna trump me on this one.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:52

LL Cool Whip.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

Oh damn. And some L L LL Cool Whip is good. LL Cool Whip is really good. Cool whip. Why are you saying that that with the H. Cool whip? Say whip. Whip, now say cool whip, cool whip. I've been wanting to do an episode. It's it's yeah, man, it's giving it, it's not giving the Simpsons a run for its money, but like as far as longevity is concerned, because the Simpsons is still that that's gonna be goaded for as far as uh you know stack compiling, but I'm with you on that. Do you do any impersonations? Because one thing I've always wanted to do a complete episode with me doing impersonations, and I'm not sure how well it would land. And I would love to be able to if somebody can do one and have a debate with me, I want to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:00

So I used to do Chappelle, and then I hit puberty and my voice changed. So oh man, puberty's a channel. Because it's like I would do Chappelle, but I wasn't even trying. People would just laugh, like, oh, you sound like Dave Chappelle. I'm like, no, I don't stop saying that. And then I was like, Ain't me!

SPEAKER_02 1:10:23

I shock ate me.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:26

Yeah, no, I I can't do impressions. I can do it with all my family members, but other than that, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:35

I just I'm not really sure how it'll land because I can do like Elmo and Winnie the Pooh and uh the hormone monster from uh from Big Mouth, Donald Trump, Omaka, uh Obama. Like I I I'm I got a pretty deep. I just don't know if it would land right. Well, there's only one way to try to know.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:02

Well, I appreciate you saying that, Mr. McGee. And uh I'll think the next time we should give that a try. Because quite frankly, I don't know if it would land well with the American people.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

That's the old proverb.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

Oh, but a rabbit. Well, we'll figure it out next time, won't we, Picklet?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:30

I wonder where the paper boys gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

Hey there, Messley all, you come to bring me some good news.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:46

I think I think that that would be a fun episode. But now we just now he's being goofy. Now, as we do every time that we're here, this is gonna be the Michigan or more more specifically, Detroit portion of the show.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

Detroit draft is tomorrow. And I pray that every person that you draft is in Boston. I hope they're not successful in anything until they leave your franchise and then become Hall of Fame players. And then they come back and say, I just had to get that jump that is Detroit to realize my potential. Um I hope Jameer Gibbs leaves. Um, I hope Amalon St. Brown stays there his entire career and never wins anything. Um with Aiden Hutchins, as he went to Michigan too. Like he just I don't know. I I don't have much for y'all today. I'm actually having a pretty good day, Detroit. So lucky for y'all. But as always, cute.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:06

I think what I loved most about that, there's there's a couple a couple different points, but when you said I hope they leave and have Hall of Fame careers, there's actually nothing that I want more than the Lions to trade back for Matt Stafford and have him win a Super Bowl there. I want that in my bones so badly, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

No, I don't want that at all. No, you don't want that? No, I don't know. You mean and the Rams won a Super Bowl? I'll take that. If they trade golf for Stafford again, and then Stafford and Golf wins the Super Bowl with the Rams. I would love that. That would be hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:57

So that so that's I that actually would all right. So what do you think would be more fun? If if we if we did the exercise back in reverse, they they make the trade back. Do you think it'd be more funny if Goff won a Super Bowl with the Rams than if Stafford won one with the Lions getting traded back?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:15

Absolutely. Do you know how much ammo I would have for Lions fans if Golf Lions?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:23

Yeah, on a on a personal note, that would make a whole lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:30

Yeah, that's that's what I need. I need that to happen if they do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

Alright, so if there is a football god, they will make that happen. There's just certain things in life that if if once they happen, because you and I are talking, like I'm not I'm not a religious person, but when certain things happen, you go, you know what? There just might be. And Jared Goff going back to LA and winning a ring is absolutely on the board for that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:01

I'd be okay with it. I'd allow that.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:06

One last question before we get out of here. Um I always do this because I'm I'm awful as a host with this. Um, every because we're talking about quarterbacks not getting rings or getting rings or going back to their teams and so on and so forth. Uh, the window does close pretty quickly, even though quarterbacks are playing longer. The the window shrinks pretty quickly. Of like the top guys, which one actually wins a ring? Like the Allens, the Burrows, the Jacksons, the Herberts. I mean, they're they're getting into their 30s. I mean, they could they play until they're 40, yeah, but we're not getting the same version of them. There's a chance that maybe none of these guys get one.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:57

Yeah, I mean, there's a chance because you gotta look at the young guys coming up behind them. Like Drake May is already played in the Super Bowl. Bo Nicks was on the cusp of playing in the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:12

I don't believe in Bo Nicks, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:14

But I believe in the Broncos roster.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:18

I do too, but how long is that gonna last? But how also, how long is that gonna last, too? Like, you can believe in the roster because I I'm the same way, but that's like the window for Denver to me is like you got two years to figure that thing out and get there, or else you cooked.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:35

Yeah, because the the defense will still be elite this year. I love them adding Jaden Waddle, like that that's big because you already had um like Pat Bryan was solid, you know. You got Sutton, you still got what's the guy's name? He's mainly a special team, Mims. Yeah, so I believe like this is I'll I know it's early, but I'll probably be picking Denver to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl if I had to pick right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:08

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

Um, and then like you know, Jaden Daniels was a game away from the Super Bowl. His rookie year. Right. He just needs some help. You know, I know people are down on CJ Stroud, but the Texans have a really good team. I love in Jacksonville. So yeah, it's a chance to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

I don't buy CJ Stroud at all, dog. I don't buy him at all.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:40

It's uh I would say it's it's now or never for Lamar. Like I feel like if they don't get it done this year, it ain't gonna happen. And I know that's a terrible thing to say with the new head coach and everything, and the first-time play caller at OC, but that's genuinely how I feel. Um, and it's just the way he plays. Like, I don't believe he'll age gracefully. I believe Josh Allen will age sort of like Ben Rockesberger did, like, he'll lose some athleticism, but he's so big, so strong, has a canon that he'll still age better than Lamar.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:24

So we've seen that is the thing, too, is like we've seen Josh be able to be he absolutely deserves the 99 throw power overall in Madden, but the accuracy is there as well. Whereas like Lamar, I feel that yeah, once the creativity goes away, like I've seen him uh pull off some dots, but it's also it's not consistent, and I think that he second guesses himself, and that little hitch is always gonna be the death of him.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:01

Yeah, uh Lamar's definitely gotten better as a passer, but I don't know. I don't know if it's the weapons or what, it's just I just don't see it. Like, there's no guy on the outside that really scares me. Like Zay Flowers is a nice receiver. I would love for him to be my number two.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:27

Exactly. He's a great number.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:29

My number three. Like, yeah, but there's no there's no dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:37

Well, and that's always kind of been my yeah, that's always been my analysis of the Ravens, is like, well, what do you want him to do? They address running back, they address wide receiver. I'm like, just because you get a guy of a position of need doesn't mean that you addressed one that matters.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:55

Exactly. You're just putting a body, you know, in a body in there. Like y'all put the body in there, you let the corpse of Hopkins and you've just the Ravens in general, even before Lamarck got there, the Anquan Boldens, the Steve Smiths, like you're you're always a few years late with these guys, and then the guys who are supposed to be guys like Hollywood Brown and Rashad Bateman, they don't progress the way they're supposed to.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:30

It is, yeah, it's it's weird because it feels like the thing that made the Patriots great was they got rid of guys too early, and people say, How could you get rid of that talent? And they always knew what they were doing, cheating or otherwise, they knew what they were doing, and then you go Baltimore is always on the they're always reacting. Like, well, this guy was good five years ago. It's like it's like the league. I'm not did you ever watch the league growing up? All right, the league was like the league was a fantasy football show on FX, and one of the one of the characters goes to this kid called the Oracle, that's what they name. He's like a 12-year-old, a 12-year-old kid, and he goes, What if I go Larry Johnson? Because the game for the show first dropped in like 09, I think. And he goes, What if I get Larry Johnson? He goes, That's a great pick in 05, and that's what the Ravens do. Every they're like three years behind on every wide receiver that they either a they just draft a wide receiver just because they know they need one and it's not any good or not where they're supposed to be, or they get the guy who's way past his prime, and they get you a guy who has a name recognition, and they go, There we go, we fixed wide receiver. No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:49

At all. At all. You just you're just doing some stuff. It's kind of like when I just to say we did it.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:01

Yeah, it's it's when I and I know it sounds kind of counterintuitive because of you know, I have a podcast and I talk for this for a not not a living living, but for a living. And uh it's like when I tell my kid, am I sometimes you'd be talking just to talk, and the Ravens get wide receivers just to get wide receivers.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:22

Yeah. Agreed.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:27

But anything else you want to add to it before you go and hang it up for the day?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:31

No, just you know, looking forward to the draft, you know, and see how my bears do. That's about it. That's about it. I hope everybody has, you know, great rest of their week, wonderful weekend until we can hop on. And hopefully we get our brother back with us soon. But you know, work is work.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:51

Work is work. And speaking of work, I will be out of town, like seeing our talks about off stage. I will be out of town starting next week. But what I'm going to do, I'm not gonna bring the soundboard, I'm not gonna bring the computer, but I am gonna bring the microphone with me. Might not be able to do it in this form, but I'm gonna be able to do a lot more stuff and more appropriate for you guys' time zones because I'll be one hour ahead instead of three hours behind. And then CR. Oh, there they are. But yeah, so I was I'm gonna bring the content, the micro content machines with me and still be able to do some stuff because my wife's getting, even though I haven't spoken much about here, my wife's one of the top escrow, she's the second top escort officer in the state of Alaska. Number one because she has no help with her. Appreciate that, man. She's number one because she has no assistant with her, so she's technically number two because the other person has three people helping her, and we're going on a trip to South Carolina. We're gonna go do corporate things, and uh I'm gonna try not to embarrass her as her husband, no promises, but but while she's doing her award stuff, um, you know, I'll still be out here just kind of chopping up with you guys. Uh CR, always appreciate you and your time, man. You guys know the drill. Stay up, stay blessed. We'll catch you guys on the next one.