What to Know About Kundalini Reiki with Michelle Nermerich

Returning guest Michelle Nermerich joins me for a special episode focused on Kundalini Reiki — how she came to it, how it differs from Usui Reiki, and why preparation matters when working with kundalini energy.

Michelle, a certified holistic practitioner, shares her experience with Kundalini Reiki attunements, chakra balancing, crystalline Reiki, past-life Reiki, and the different ways she uses energy work in her practice.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Michelle’s path into Kundalini Reiki
• the difference between Kundalini Reiki and Usui Reiki
• what can happen during a kundalini awakening
• why preparation, grounding, and guidance matter
• crystalline Reiki, chakra balancing, and hands-on energy work
• distance attunements and learning Reiki online
• how energy work can affect the body, emotions, and intuition
• simple ways to begin noticing energy in your own hands

This conversation is for listeners who are curious about Reiki, energy healing, or the different forms of spiritual practice available today. It offers a grounded look at Kundalini Reiki, including both the possibilities and the need for care and discernment when exploring it.

About:  After a major accident and an abusive relationship, Michelle Nermerich turned her personal healing journey into a mission to empower others. As a certified holistic practitioner, she combines sound healing, Kundalini Reiki, mindset practices, and mindful movement to help clients overcome their own obstacles. Today, she is dedicated to guiding people toward deep personal growth, inner peace, and lasting transformation.

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Transcript

Introduction

Regina Sayer 0:00

Hey everybody and welcome back to this special episode with return guest Michelle Nermerich. This particular episode we're going to be talking about Kundalini Reiki principally and how it is that she came to be doing it and all the different parts of it, which was quite interesting to me because I actually had that very first level of Kundalini Reiki. And honestly, I didn't even know there was more to it until I met Michelle. So it's very interesting for anybody who wants to explore the different types of Reiki that are out there, principally Kundalini Reiki, because there are some things that happen to both of us that we will explain in the episode that I think people need to be aware of when they're doing anything that is related to Kundalini rising.

Regina Sayer 0:49

So what happened during this episode was really interesting. And I already talk about in the episode something else bizarre that happened when I was doing a pre-interview podcast with Michelle. But during this recording, there was something wow, it was amazing. There was like this ethereal butterfly or moth that flew across the camera, I think two times. And I actually got it on camera. Now Michelle is recording in a basement. There's no windows and nothing came in. And even if it did, why would it appear to look ethereal and transparent? I am actually going to put that particular clip up on my Instagram channel. So if you want to go and look at that, because that was really like, whoa, what is that? So I'm thinking there's always some freaky things that happen when I'm speaking with Michelle. So anyway, I do hope that you'll have a listen and that you learned something about Reiki. And that you will also go back if you haven't already and listen to Michelle's story, which is quite interesting if you are interested in doing any kind of modalities that are spiritual and also sound healing. And her story is not just about that. There's more to it. With that, I leave you with the episode. Thanks everybody. Hi everybody and welcome back to this special episode of Wisdom Without the Guru with returning guest Michelle Nermerich. So on a recent episode, Michelle shared her story of growing up bullied for her accent, surviving a car accident, and defying the doctors who told her that she had only a 25% chance of regaining full mobility of her arm. Her story is one also of escaping an abusive marriage and ultimately finding her way back to her intuitive self through therapy and exploring a range of spiritual and holistic practices very diligently. Today we're here to discuss the Kundalini Reiki that Michelle works with and exploring its different components and effects. In doing so, this gives you listeners maybe the opportunity to decide if this is something that you might wish to explore as well, because there are all sorts of different types of Reiki out there. And welcome, Michelle. Welcome. I can't forget to welcome you. Before we start,

Energy and unusual experiences

Regina Sayer 3:25

I do want to talk about something really freaky that happened when I first spoke to Michelle during the pre-podcast interview that we do. We were speaking, and my screen started going into all these bizarre and weird colors and flickering. And I have never in my life experienced anything like that, except when I was talking to Michelle. And what is your reason for that, Michelle?

Michelle Nermerich 3:53

I do weird things with electricity. I I don't know if it's because of my vibration, how high it is. I've been known to walk past street lights and turn them off. And then I walk away from them, they go back on, and then I just walk past it again and it'll turn off again. So yeah, sometimes I mess around with electronics without even trying to do it.

Regina Sayer 4:13

That reminds me of there was that old, old series in the States. I think it was called Bell Book and Candle. And there used to be the warlock who would walk underneath the lamppost and snap his fingers, and the lamppost would go off with a black cat walking behind. Anyway. That's pretty much me. I've run across so many different kinds of Reiki since I've been doing this podcast. And and for myself, I am a second-level Isui Reiki practitioner, although I don't actively practice all the time. And I mean, I've heard of all sorts of things. And there is

Kundalini awakening and preparation

Regina Sayer 4:48

one thing that I do have in common with Michelle, is that I also, but I only did the first level of it. I did Kundalini Reiki. And I think it's something that we want to talk about first before we even go into this, because both of us experienced something very similar after we did the kundalini Reiki. You want to talk about what happened to you first?

Michelle Nermerich 5:08

Pretty much it's like a kundalini awakening where we pretty much have a serpent at the base of our spine that goes all the way up into our crown chakra and above. It feels almost like a burst of heat starting at the base of the spine going all the way up. If you're not prepared for it, though, it can really play around with your emotions. Some people can even get dizzy spells from it. I've even heard extremes of vomiting happening. So you really have to be prepared when taking on any kind of kundalini that you can be awakened without wanting to. And being under the right guide is very essential. That's another reason I'm also taking kundalini yoga with my kundalini Reiki, because they go hand in hand. And I just want my clients to be under the best care possible when awakening the kundalini.

Regina Sayer 6:03

Yeah. Well, for me, um, I just randomly took it because it was something that my Usui Reiki master was teaching at the time. And not too long afterwards, I had a very, very physical awakening in a Reiki share. My whole body started vibrating, and I had waves going up and down my body, and I started seeing all sorts of stuff. I would see movement. I could see like cells moving. I could see movement in the the ground, in the grass. I remember being in the metro one time and seeing like a big vortex open in front of me. It was such the weirdest thing. And I wasn't afraid, but it did make a lot of people around me afraid. And I actually, I mean, it was very, very, very physical, energetic awakening that I had, very physical. And no one knew what it was, but I did go to one person. First question that he asked was, Did you do kundalini Reiki? And I said, Yes, you know, not suspecting the answer. And apparently he knew quite a number of people who had done that and unwittingly unleashed the kundalini. And sometimes, and what my knowledge of it is a bit different than Michelle's, is that with this arising, because you are not prepared to handle it, your energy levels of your body, I guess, are not prepared to handle it, it can make you crazy because you can actually start seeing and sensing too much and start to blur the lines of reality with what's not real. I actually had my Reiki master refuse to take me for the third level of Reiki because she was afraid that she would have to peel me off the wall some time during it.

Michelle Nermerich 7:48

It affects everybody differently. For me, it actually did feel like my third eye was activated within the first week of getting my Kundalini Reiki level two. I would close my eyes and it was like a movie screen in front of my eyes. I could see things like people talking. And I'm like, who are these people?

Regina Sayer 8:09

Yeah, and that's when you people start thinking you're crazy and you're not.

Michelle Nermerich 8:12

Yes. And I had all these emotions come up where I felt like I, for a whole week, I was crying on and off.

Regina Sayer 8:20

Yeah, I didn't have that happen, but I was sensing stuff right and left, and I didn't know what I was sensing. All I knew is I was sensing stuff, and my body did not like what I was sensing.

Michelle Nermerich 8:29

By the time I hit my level three attunement, it gave me this burst of energy, like I had this new zest for life. And that was an amazing feeling.

Regina Sayer 8:39

Okay. Well,

Michelle’s path into Kundalini Reiki

Regina Sayer 8:40

unlike me, who just unwittingly put their hand up and said, Okay, I'm gonna take Kundalini Reiki because that's what my Reiki master said to do. So let's talk about you. Why is it that first of all, I think you've got your normal Usui Reiki certification?

Michelle Nermerich 8:54

Yes, I just actually got my master's in that one. I did the Kundalini Reiki probably about two years before. Okay. I don't know. I was drawn because yeah, because I was doing kundalini yoga at the time, I was drawn to the kundalini Reiki. And also just the way the teacher described it, that it was an easier form to learn and a more potent form. I'm like, well, let's start with this one, if it's a bit easier and more potent. And it's true, it is more potent. There's no symbols like in Usui Reiki. It's based with symbols. Usui Reiki is the masculine energy form, where kundalini is the feminine, but it combines both together, the masculine and the feminine. Because kundalini is also dealing with Mother Earth, which is more the feminine based. So combines both feminine and masculine energies.

Regina Sayer 9:50

Okay, so Usui Reiki is mainly just masculine energy?

Michelle Nermerich 9:54

Masculine, yeah, universal life force. The kundalini is the divine feminine, which is the shakti . I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

Regina Sayer 10:04

So if

Kundalini Reiki, Usui Reiki, and different healing approaches

Regina Sayer 10:05

somebody wants to choose between the two, what kind of person do you think would be drawn to either one or the other or both?

Michelle Nermerich 10:11

I myself like them both. They both serve their own purpose. I do enjoy doing the symbols. Like when I'm going for our walks at the park, I give the trees the Cho Ku Rei symbol all the time. With the kundalini Reiki, though, there's so many more possibilities of healing that you can do because under Kundalini Reiki, you learn kundalini Reiki, which helps with like situational bonds. So let's say you're having trouble with your mother and you want to clear up any karmic bonds. You can do that with kundalini Reiki. You can clear the negative energy in a room with kundalini Reiki. You can do other types of karmic bands between people that you're holding on to with kundalini-reiki. And then also with kundalini reiki, there is crystalline Reiki, which many people don't even know what that is. It's actually my favorite part of Kundalini Reiki's Crystalline Reiki. As you know, when we all have trauma, it stores in our body in little crystals. It can be from emotional trauma to like breaking your arm. Right now, actually, I'm treating my neighbor with crystalline Reiki because she just had knee surgery. And she said it's making a world of difference. Even her physiotherapist is amazed how quickly she's healing. So it really does work. There is also DNA Reiki, which helps heal DNA strands in your body. There is past life Reiki, which, as it says, it helps with any past life traumas or karmic bonds, soul contracts. There is also diamond Reiki, where as a Reiki practitioner, I can put etherical diamond in your crown chakra that helps balance out all your other chakras. I actually put them when I do it on my clients. I picture an etherical diamond in each of their chakras. Especially if they're dormant, their chakra, it really helps to activate it. Then there's also birth trauma. When we go through birthing, every baby is in trauma. So it helps with that process.

Regina Sayer 12:19

Okay. So there's all these different types, like almost like sub-Reiki types underneath kundalini that you learn

Michelle Nermerich 12:27

under kundalini.

Regina Sayer 12:29

As you're going through the different levels, and how many levels are there?

Michelle Nermerich 12:32

There's three levels. In level one and two, you pretty much just learn straight kundalini, which is the karmic bonds and the situation. And that's all under Kundalini Reiki. And then in level three is where you learn all the rest of them.

Regina Sayer 12:48

Okay. Because the only thing, honestly, I just remember this putting your hands together in front of your chest and saying kundalini Reiki. That's it. That's all I remember.

Michelle Nermerich 12:57

Yeah. And then you a lot of it is visualization. So you can either, if you're doing, let's say, situational, so helping between let's say you and me would have an argument, and I want to clear up that argument. On a piece of paper, I would put your name, the argument we had, and my name. And I would go like this and think kundalini Reiki and think on the situation to help clear it up. A lot of it is visualization. Most of it can be done hands-on and distant. The only one that is not recommended for distant healing is the crystalline Reiki. It works only with hands-on.

Regina Sayer 13:36

And why is that?

Michelle Nermerich 13:37

Being a practitioner, it's actually the weirdest feeling when I do crystalline Reiki. It's like I can almost feel the crystals dissolving. I do a combination because I'm trained with hands-on massage too, being an aesthetician. I'll combine it with traditional hands-on massage. And if somebody has a knot that I can't do like with manipulation with my fingers, I'll do crystalline Reiki over it. And it's like I can feel it breaking up with just the power of my hand and the energy I'm putting out into it. And I think that's part of the reason why you need hands-on. And then I'll go massage over it and the knot's gone. And it's like I can massage for half an hour and the knot won't go away. I do the crystalline Reiki for three to five minutes over the area, and all of a sudden the knot's gone.

Regina Sayer 14:26

Yeah, because isn't when you have a lot of muscle tension, there's actually some kind of crystal in the muscle itself that's that clump, I believe.

Michelle Nermerich 14:35

Yes, there is. It's a bunch of like crystals building up. And we can get those crystals too. Let's say we're grieving the loss of someone. It can form anywhere in the body. Usually grief is in the hips. So depending on what kind of emotional thing you're going through, it depends on where it's stored in the body. Like if you're under a lot of stress and tension, typically it's the neck and shoulder area. Your body says so much about your emotions. So yeah, it all depends on what you're suffering from emotionally, where those crystals are in your body.

Regina Sayer 15:06

Okay. So you say there's all these different ways that you do visualization and then you pinpoint. I mean, these are some very specific areas that you're pinpointing because I remember, and my memory might be not correct, because it's been 18 years since the first time I did Reiki when my son was pregnant. He was a Reiki baby. I mean, when I was pregnant with my son, not my son was pregnant. Anyway, I was learning the first level of a Usui Reiki when I was pregnant. I always just learned that, you know, you just put your hands there, you don't visualize anything, you just call on a Reiki. It's universal force, you know, slap your hand if you try visualizing anything or sending it anywhere specific.

Michelle Nermerich 15:44

Yes, that's Usui Reiki. That's Usui Reiki, yes. Now Kundalini is more of visualization.

Regina Sayer 15:51

So it's it's really being more specific than if you're visualizing what the issue is and just just sending it globally. Okay.

Michelle Nermerich 15:59

Yeah.

Regina Sayer 15:59

Okay. And which one do you prefer? Do you prefer where you have the specific issue or you prefer to send it globally or which?

Michelle Nermerich 16:07

Like I said, I actually do prefer the kundalini Reiki because it's more individualized to what a person needs. I do find since I got my Usui Reiki, I have become more powerful, though, with three more attunements. So I have altogether six attunements done now.

Regina Sayer 16:25

Okay. Is there any part of the kundalini Reiki that was particularly difficult for you as you were experiencing it or learning it?

Michelle Nermerich 16:32

No. Like I said, I was just drawn into when we learnt in the masters other forms of Reiki. The crystalline is what I was attracted to. And the Kundalini, like with the situational, the karmic bonds, and also the past life Reiki. I've always had a fascination with past lives. So that one really spoke to me, especially since one of my former Reiki masters was a past life hypnotherapist and put me into some of my past lives where I was like, yeah, I need some of these past lives cleared up energetically.

Regina Sayer 17:08

Given what

Guidance, training, and learning Reiki responsibly

Regina Sayer 17:09

we've just spoken about, about the fact that it can cause a kundalini rising in people. Do you think that as part of the teaching it should be included in it? Because you said, like, for example, the courses you had, there was no talk of that in it.

Michelle Nermerich 17:23

No, there was not. And yes, I think it should be included. And that's another reason I am taking kundalini yoga. A whole module is dedicated to the kundalini awakening.

Regina Sayer 17:34

Will you be teaching kundalini Reiki yourself?

Michelle Nermerich 17:36

I'm one of those people who want to be an expert at it before I teach it.

Regina Sayer 17:41

Yeah.

Michelle Nermerich 17:41

But yes, I will eventually be teaching Reiki. Maybe in another year or two. I want to teach it once I have my Kundalini yoga so I can teach my students about Kundalini awakening in a just in a better form than my experience.

Regina Sayer 17:57

I think that's an excellent idea. Because I know a lot of people just take a Reiki course and then go out and think they're Reiki masters and teach it. But I know that actually to be a Reiki grandmaster, I'm not sure what the latest, the last one is, that you actually have to do so many hours of working on people and going out and practicing before you can actually have the final attempts.

Michelle Nermerich 18:18

I think it takes like over ten years to become a grandmaster.

Regina Sayer 18:22

Oh, okay.

Michelle Nermerich 18:23

Yes. It takes a long time.

Regina Sayer 18:25

I know someone here that I've been to for Usui Reiki, and he actually trained under a Japan he's Japanese and he trained under a Japanese monk in Japan. Every time I go to him is very, very, very strong. And every time I leave there, I can feel it like reactivated in myself. It's always, I just I love to go to him because I'll have these moments where I feel like I've lost it. I don't feel anything. And then I go to him and I come out and I'm vibrating again and feeling the movement in my my hands, you know, and crazy, crazy stuff.

Michelle Nermerich 18:58

It's pretty crazy how many forms of Reiki are out there. Like I'm lately I've been looking into Holy Fire Reiki and Violet Flame Reiki. I just want to know what the differences are. I'm not an expert at any of those kinds, but I was looking into it, and there's over 22 different forms and counting of Reiki.

Regina Sayer 19:18

So let's see how many we can name. There's Angelic, you said Violet Flame.

Michelle Nermerich 19:23

Violet Flame, Holy Fire. Yeah. There's a couple that have Hawaiian names to them. And then there's about five different Japanese Reikis that I wouldn't be able to pronounce. My pronunciation is so bad with certain names. Like it took me probably two to three weeks to remember the person's name who came up with Kundalini Reiki back in the 90s. His name is Ole Gabrielsen. He's a Danish Reiki and meditation master. And he channeled it in the 90s, in case anybody wants to know a bit of the history behind that.

Regina Sayer 20:00

What what's his last name? Gabrielsen? Yes. Like Gabriel the angel, but son at the end. Yes. Ooh. That's bizarre. That's just another weird thing you and I are talking about in common. My son's name is Gabriel.

Michelle Nermerich 20:14

Wow. Yeah.

Regina Sayer 20:15

I'm starting to think, do I need to learn Kundalini Reiki again?

Michelle Nermerich 20:19

It might not hurt.

Regina Sayer 20:21

Is it something that you can learn distance? Because, you know, this is another thing to ask, because a lot of people, especially with COVID, happened, but it was happening even before COVID. People were teaching Reiki, sort of, you know, you go on Fiverr and you can learn a course of Reiki and you learn it through the internet.

Michelle Nermerich 20:39

That's how I learnt my Kundalini Reiki is online. I had my attunements and everything online done. And I at first I'm like, I don't know how if it's going to do anything online, but wow, was it powerful. The lady who taught me, her name's Hillary Faye. She was doing meditations and I could feel it like a week beforehand, she was attuning us already for the level that we were taking. Yeah. And she wasn't the one like some people will rush it, do your level one in a couple days you can do your level two. She made you wait those 21 days till do your next levels.

Regina Sayer 21:16

Yeah, because it needs to integrate.

Michelle Nermerich 21:18

It needs to integrate, yes. But some people online will do level one and two pretty much back to back, which I think is too much on the body to do it that close together. She was a very good teacher. With my Usui Reiki, I did learn from an a person not online, but I actually end up finishing my course with Hillary Faye online because my former Reiki master got sick. So I had level one and two done in person. And then I wanted to get my masters, so I did it through her online. She was an excellent teacher.

Regina Sayer 21:54

Did you feel a difference between like level one and two that you did in person and the level three that you did online?

Michelle Nermerich 22:00

Not at all, no. It felt the same way. And I thought it would because when in person, when I had the two minutes done, like it was done on my hands and everything, but she would make your put your hands out while she was doing it. So it actually, and yet you had your eyes closed. So it actually it almost felt like somebody was doing it while your eyes were closed. You could feel her energy.

Regina Sayer 22:21

But I think that that is a point that um a lot of people question about the validity of doing Reiki through online, learning it online, because people think, oh no, no, you have to be there in person. But I guess logically, when you think about it, Reiki is supposed to be energy. Energy can go anywhere, can be received.

Michelle Nermerich 22:40

We do distant healing.

Regina Sayer 22:42

And we do exactly. So why could you not do it in distance?

Michelle Nermerich 22:47

That's exactly how I feel about it. And like I said, I was a bit skeptical too. And after having my attunements, like especially when I did my kundalini and I was getting those visualizations afterwards, and like I said, the burst of energy. It just was like, okay, this is working.

Regina Sayer 23:05

Yeah, with the kundalini Reiki, you did all these different levels of it. And did you get attunements at each level?

Michelle Nermerich 23:12

Yes. The way I started with Hillary Faye is she offered level one for free. As soon as I had my level one attunement, I didn't have the kundalini awaking. And at that point, I just felt like a million bucks afterwards, though. I felt like I was on top of the world after my level one attunement. It was the level two that sent the awakening, and the level three, it's like it balanced me out again. And then I felt like I was on top of the world again.

Regina Sayer 23:39

Well, I know between the time that I did the kundalini Reiki and just before I had that awakening, I had done the five Tibetan rites of life and death, I think, and they're five different positions. And we had just quickly done it in an hour, and I tell you, boom, right after that. Wow. That's amazing. I would love to feel that again. That just wave of going up and down you, like a wave washing through you. It felt great.

Michelle Nermerich 24:08

That's the one thing when you do do online attunements, at least with Hillary Faye, she she lets you keep the recording of the attunement. So if you're feeling like you need another attunement, you can go and watch her attunement again. And you it's like you get reattuned again. Okay. So I actually like watching them once a year. Just I feel like I get a bit more power, like a tune-up almost. And you have lifetime access to it.

Regina Sayer 24:35

Yeah, I think that's what happened to me when I go to the Japanese Reiki Master here, is that I think that when I came in, he sort of did a like a minor attunement on me again the first time. And that was like, yay, thank you very much. I needed that.

Michelle Nermerich 24:51

If he's doing symbols on you, it's a form of attunement with the you Usui Reiki. Yeah.

Regina Sayer 24:57

Yeah. But he but he wasn't literally well, I don't know what he was doing because I had my eyes closed, to be honest. So I don't know exactly what he was doing.

Chakra balancing, emotional release, and hands-on practice

Michelle Nermerich 25:04

I just remembered there was one form of the kundalini Reiki I did not talk about, which is balance. Basically, you balance out your chakras. You put your hand in this position and you think of the word balance, balance, balance. And then you can either visualize each the person's chakra, or you can use a dummy and put your hand over each chakra saying balance, balance, balance. And I incorporate that with a massage and I call it my chakra balancing massage. So it's like a hands-on massage with chakra balancing in it. And that's where I actually tell my clients, I can put you into a kundalini awakening. You can get a lot of visuals because a lot of times that people don't know are aware about the chakras. When I go over the root chakra, I'm like, okay, visualize the color red now. I only do that for my beginner clients. And I've had some clients who are like, okay, I'm ready for this. I need to clear this out. If you awaken me, that's fine. And I've had some people on my bed, like their body was going up and down. I've had people crying. I've had people laughing. So I've seen a lot of emotions on my bed.

Regina Sayer 26:12

Yeah. I've just um I'm just always very careful when people are trying to raise Kundalini. And as you've we've been trying to bring awareness this time, because we speak about one girl that I knew in Singapore. She came to, it was a type of yoga class that I was teaching at the time, and and I could see her. She was doing this round movement as she was, you know, this like circular movement as she was just sitting there and she was doing it without realizing. And I told her, you need to be very careful what's happening to you, because it looks like you're having some kind of awakening. And anyway, she started hearing voices talking to her and I don't know what, and then ended up saying that she ended up being put in an insane asylum for a little while because yeah, because she started believing everything that was whispering in her ear or talking to her. And this is where I say you need to be able to discern what's real and what's not real, or what's, you know, benevolent and not benevolent, or life enhancing and non-life enhancing. And she kind of said that Kwan Yin told her to um hurt her mother. I don't know how her mother found this out, but then her mother put her in a in the insane asylum for a while. And I realized after hearing that story, this is what my Reiki master was afraid of. She was afraid of that that would have happened to me if I had had a higher attunement in Reiki and given the huge amount of energy that I was feeling and what I was experiencing at the time, and she just admitted outright that she couldn't handle it. So I just think it's really important that people walk away from this particular episode, knowing that if you are going to do kundalini, it's it's like if you're going to do ayahuasca. It is. You need to prepare for it.

Michelle Nermerich 28:00

Now, the crystalline Reiki part of it, you don't get a kundalini awakening because we don't even really go on the chakras.

Regina Sayer 28:08

Are they levels that build up? Do you start with a particular one, like crystalline Reiki first, or when you're learning it?

Michelle Nermerich 28:15

When you're learning it, no, actually, you don't learn the crystalline Reiki till your master level. You learn the kundalini Reiki, which itself doesn't balance the chakras. You do learn about the balance hand move, and they tell you to do it on yourself at that point. You have to do pretty much all the Reiki, what you learn on yourself first before you can even practice on anybody else. That's what level one and two.

Regina Sayer 28:42

But it within like level one and two, is it the past life ra uh Reiki um karma?

Michelle Nermerich 28:50

That's all level three.

Regina Sayer 28:52

So what is in level one and two?

Michelle Nermerich 28:54

Level one, basically, we go well, when you get attuned, they activate your root chakra if it's dormant, and your sacral chakra. In level three, we work up to the heart chakra. I'm sorry, level two. And in level three, from the heart chakra we go through all of them, but from the heart chakra up to your crown chakra.

Regina Sayer 29:18

Okay.

Michelle Nermerich 29:18

So it does try to go gradually with myself. She said the reason I got the awakening probably was because my third eye and crown chakra were already awake. So that's why I actually did go through the awakening in level two instead of level three.

Regina Sayer 29:35

Okay. And so with each chakra, is there an association of a particular type of the kundalini Reiki? Like, for example, with the crystalline Reiki, is it associated to the crown chakra?

Michelle Nermerich 29:49

No, crystalline Reiki is purely deposits in the body. They're basically what the title says they do. The balance part is the most part where you work on. So when I do a client, if I notice that they're not ready for it, I will do the balance, but I won't do it for the full time. I'll slowly awaken their chakras. Sometimes their chakras are awake. They're either overactive or underactive. Sometimes they're dormant.

Regina Sayer 30:17

Oh, okay. So I think I understand now. So in the first two levels, you are actually awakening all of the chakras and you're building up, and then then the masters, then you start going into all these different subtypes. Okay, I get it now. All right. So I I know that we're running out of time and you have a client to go to. So

Advice for anyone curious about Reiki

Regina Sayer 30:36

I just want to ask you is there any advice that you would give to anybody if they want to explore this Reiki or any other Reiki that you know of?

Michelle Nermerich 30:46

The one thing I would suggest or or tell them, a lot of people I uh do know from just talking to them, they don't notice anything sometimes in the first two sessions, especially when it comes to Usui Reiki. A lot of people say the only thing they can feel like in with me, they're like, it feels like you're holding hot stones in your hands because of all the energy coming out of my hands. So what I tell clients, give it a minimum of three sessions. Some people just you need to find a Reiki practitioner that your energy goes with also, because not everybody's energies are meant to mesh together. And it's not the fault of the Reiki practitioner. Does that make sense?

Regina Sayer 31:27

Yeah. So I guess um, and I guess the advice also is before you even want to learn Reiki, you should probably try it out on yourself to see how it feels for you as well.

Michelle Nermerich 31:38

Yes, yes, have your own treatment first.

Regina Sayer 31:41

And the different types of Reiki as well.

Michelle Nermerich 31:43

Yes, yes, to see which one you're most drawn to. Like myself, I instantly had a connection to Kundalini Reiki, and it was almost like the universe was telling me I knew you know when you start getting signs and synchronicities, like I kept hearing all over about Kundalini Reiki, like within a matter of a month.

Regina Sayer 32:04

I'll tell you something funny is when I was first having my first level of Reiki, and I was having a session with a woman as well, she was standing behind me, and I could actually feel her sort of like moving back and forth. And I always thought to myself, oh, what the heck is she doing? Is she just like moving back and forth? And then I realized when I had that awakening and I my whole body was vibrating, that her body must have been vibrating as if she was giving me the Reiki.

Michelle Nermerich 32:32

I have some clients, like when I'm especially when I'm doing the chakra balance, if the chakra is flowing properly, I'm going in a clockwise without even realizing it. If their chakra is out of balance, I'll be like gyrating like that or going the wrong way. I've actually had some clients that they were so blocked that I almost felt nauseated after because I was trying so hard to help them that it just took a toll on me. In the meantime, just from practicing, I have learned to not get that feeling anymore. I s my body still will go with their energy, though, if they're in tune or not in tune. And if they are really out of tune, I'll suggest that I do a tuning fork treatment on them as well.

Regina Sayer 33:16

Okay. And would you suggest, and this is something that I always suggest to people, be curious to see if you agree with it, because I believe anybody can can do energy healing. I always encourage people to just put their hands together or put their hands on their body at night and just, you know, just with the intention, bring healing into yourself and not the intention that there's something wrong with your body or there's something wrong with you.

Michelle Nermerich 33:40

Yeah, putting your hand to your heart is so powerful. And I'll tell clients if you don't feel anything, rub your hands together for a couple of seconds and then put them apart and get close together, close your eyes, and then it's almost like you can feel a wall, and that's your energy that you're feeling.

Regina Sayer 33:59

And in and out slowly.

Michelle Nermerich 34:00

Like you can make an energy ball. Yeah, in and out slowly. And then with that, you can put your hands to your heart and don't touch yourself completely, but you can actually feel because you made that energy, you can actually feel it going to your the area where you need it.

Regina Sayer 34:16

So even if you don't do Reiki, you can just try experiencing this playing with energy with the hands.

Michelle Nermerich 34:24

I started playing with energy with my hands when I got interested in energy healing 20 years ago already. I started like just seeing little things on YouTube back when YouTube was in the Stone Ages.

Regina Sayer 34:35

Well, you know, after I had that huge opening, I came back from the Reiki because I used to give my son Reiki every night. And I remember putting my hands down and it was kind of in the kind of almost dark, and I could see this fluid movement happening between my hands as I held them over him. And I was like, what the heck is that?

Michelle Nermerich 34:55

I've been treating my dog every night with crystalline Reiki because he has arthritis now in his right back leg and he's been dragging it. And it's been helping because today he went for a walk and was acting like a puppy. So Reiki is wonderful for animals as well.

Regina Sayer 35:11

Yeah, definitely. I mean, you can give Reiki to anyone, anything plants, animals, trees.

Michelle Nermerich 35:17

Your crystals.

Regina Sayer 35:18

Yep, exactly.

Michelle Nermerich 35:20

Every time I go for a walk at the park, I give Reiki to the park that I go to all the time, just so it's a nice safe feeling for people in there.

Regina Sayer 35:29

Yeah. And I know somebody, another guest, she sort of just sets that up so that she's she's sort of like creating an environment of Reiki for everything that's around her.

Michelle Nermerich 35:38

And let's say you have somebody you want to treat who's sick and they can't say if they want it or not, their higher self will agree to it or not. So you don't actually have to worry about that. If they don't want it, their higher self will say no. And then you're sending it out, but it won't reach them.

Regina Sayer 35:54

Okay. And is it with because I know with the Usui, you need to ask. And is it the same with the kundalini?

Michelle Nermerich 36:00

No, you don't have to ask, but you can send it out and it's up to their higher body to accept it or not. If the body says no, then it'll just not work. But if their higher self does agree to it, then yes, they'll get the energy. Like one of my friend's mothers has really bad dementia and she's nonverbal. And I've told him so many times, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna send your mom some energy because I can for some reason speak to his mom's higher self. She's 90% of the time accepting of the energy. And I do the same with my dad, too, who also has dementia.

Regina Sayer 36:37

Okay, well, that is some interesting information. And I think that should be able to help listeners if they are looking into doing any kind of Reiki or exploring what Kundalini Reiki is, but just keep in mind with kundalini that you need to be careful of the kundalini awakening that potentially could happen to you. Thanks so much, Michelle. I know you have to run to another client. So we're gonna wrap up right here. I really appreciate that you've come on and talked about this because I c I find it quite interesting as you can tell. Um, listeners, if you have not already, please go back and listen to the episode where Michelle talks all about her life and what she's doing now and how she arrived to be this wonderful person that she is now that you see before you and that you're listening to. All right, Michelle, thanks so much. And listeners, until the next time, I wish you well wherever you are in this beautiful world. Bye, everybody.