The Power of Perseverance and Emotional Intelligence with Rhonda Parker Taylor

In this engaging conversation, Rob Pene and Rhonda Parker-Taylor explore the themes of perseverance, emotional intelligence, and the journey to personal success. Rhonda shares her experiences of overcoming challenges, the importance of self-reflection, and the impact of emotional intelligence on relationships and career success. 

They discuss the dangers of comparison, the significance of finding one's story of success, and the necessity of resilience in navigating life's ups and downs. Rhonda emphasizes the power of passion and purpose, and how these elements contribute to a fulfilling life. The conversation concludes with insights on storytelling and the importance of community support in personal growth.

Takeaways

▶️ Anything is possible for anybody out there.

▶️ Comparison destroys you.

▶️ If it's meant to be, it's up to you.

▶️ Luck is preparation and opportunity.

▶️ Your story is just that.

▶️ Regret is its own kind of animal.

▶️ You can find joy in every second.

▶️ It's up to you to find out what the truth is.

▶️ You have to change your course once you realize you've made that mistake.

▶️ The story of success is finding your passion in it.

Sound Bites

"Anything is possible for anybody out there."

"Comparison destroys you."

"If it's meant to be, it's up to you."

"Luck is preparation and opportunity."

"Your story is just that."

"Regret is its own kind of animal."

"You can find joy in every second."

Connect with Rhonda

https://rhondaparkertaylor.com

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Transcript

Rob Pene (00:00.628)

Okay, Talofalava, Talofalava, welcome everybody. It's nice to meet you. The behind the scenes stories of busy professionals. I am your host of this podcast. My name is Faleulu Ropati Nicolaumikaelepasi Peneholotaulau Usofano, but you can call me Rob. There you go. I nailed it. I nailed it. There's actually more letters in my name than the whole alphabet.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (00:22.255)

Yes.

Rob Pene (00:28.162)

So it's pretty exciting. I am from American Samoa, so I'm grateful to be here, grateful for our guests and our show. This episode is actually brought to you by Get Ghosted. It's a LinkedIn ghost writing and management service. Oftentimes a lot of professionals, authors, speakers, coaches, consultants are on Instagram and Facebook, but they'll neglect LinkedIn a little bit, maybe because it's too not sexy for them and they're too busy or they don't know what to post. Well, Get Ghosted, the...

LinkedIn ghost writing service helps to take off that load. It allows them to build trust and record time and without writing any additional words on their end. So if you're interested to learn more about that, go to thedigitalwritingfirm.com. Okay, for today's guest, I'm super excited. Growing up in Samoa, English is kind of a second language, but I always took an interest in school, right? In school and...

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (00:57.661)

you

Rob Pene (01:25.486)

A lot of my scholarships, I was a baseball player, but I got a lot of money from my A's in school. So I really value education. And Rhonda Parker Taylor does as well. She's astute and an academia, and I'm excited to talk about her journey, but they know also what she's doing with all of this knowledge that she's got from the NBA to everything, the books. This is crazy. I'm excited. Thank you for being here.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (01:29.145)

.

So,

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (01:51.711)

Thank you. Thank you for having me and I could only imagine what it was like as a child to have to learn all those names and all and have to be able to write them and be able to tell people who you are you did so great I would I would have I would well, you know my first Experience in school was I flunked kindergarten So I would have been in trouble

I would have been in trouble. Rhonda was too hard and I had to stay back. That's the thing. Anything is possible. Anything, you know, here I have a doctorate and now I'm a best-selling author. So anything is possible for anybody out there. Nothing's too big. Not even a name that has more letters than the alphabet.

Rob Pene (02:28.268)

Yeah, Rob is a lot easier for me.

Yes.

Rob Pene (02:48.75)

Yes.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (02:51.094)

and to accomplish if you just try and put perseverance behind you. If you fall down seven times, get up the eight.

Rob Pene (02:58.349)

Mm-hmm.

Rob Pene (03:05.166)

Mmm, that's very good. Yeah effort and that love was the playing field which means Everyone can achieve their goal as long as they try

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (03:11.957)

Mm-hmm.

as long as they try and as long as they keep putting those feet one foot in front of the other no matter whether life is hitting, whether you've made bad decisions, whether you've gotten off course of your purpose. All of those are distractions because if you use all of those things to give yourself the energy to produce your own storm.

Rob Pene (03:32.685)

Really?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (03:45.471)

things can happen, you can move whatever it is that's around you. So for me, I started out talking about I dropped, I flunked kindergarten, but I always had learning challenges. You know, I always was the one that had to work a little harder. It didn't stick in the brain to memorize. And so it's kind of important that people realize it, you know, yes, your IQ matters, you know.

But actually, guess what? EQ is more important, the ability to work with people.

Rob Pene (04:19.084)

Mmm. Yeah, that's huge. I think there's something to be said about relationships then.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (04:26.662)

Yes, and how you navigate your own emotions. Imagine how, just think about how many relationships, how many network opportunities you miss because you don't navigate your own emotions. You know, think about the person that may have, you know, an opportunity that you can do, but you're too fearful to go shake their hand or...

Maybe you say the wrong thing and put your foot in your mouth and you don't know how to clean it up because you're emotional inside. Or maybe those are emotions are people are excited about meeting you or talking to you and you don't pick up that they're just as nervous and you haven't navigated their own insecurity, self-talk, emotions.

that's preventing them from building on themselves. all of the emotional aspects of your life count in how you navigate and control them.

Rob Pene (05:29.688)

That's huge. Yeah, that's huge. for all of the accolades and all of the stellar things that you've done, what would you say is the signature message that you want everyone to know when they think of Rhonda Parker Taylor? What's the signature scoop per se?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (05:50.47)

Well, I have to say that it comes from something my father used to tell us, although there's two of them actually, both of them I used to hate as a child. One was, do not compare yourself to others. Well, since I was one of the youngest out of a large family, I knew that that meant no, you're too young, you can't do it. So I would be really upset about hearing.

Don't compare yourself. But as I've gotten older and seasoned and more mature and grown some wisdom, I realize comparison destroys you. And I'm not talking about comparing yourself and saying, I can do that. I need to be better at it. I'm talking about where it becomes innate to you to be jealous and long for somebody else's life. When we get into social media and we see somebody else is perfect,

Why is my life not perfect? You start getting down, you start getting depressed, start wanting a bigger house or a different loved one or whatever it might be and you just have to realize that really when you compare yourself in Proverbs it says this, envy makes the bones rot.

Rob Pene (07:11.214)

Whoa.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (07:15.098)

So you're providing cancer to yourself. You're literally.

Rob Pene (07:17.998)

Whoa!

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (07:23.842)

adopting a mindset that destroys you. Because the proverb says, anger is cruel, fury is overwhelming, but who can stand before jealousy? Envy makes the bones rot. So that's the first one. Comparison, envy. Don't compare yourself. Look at your own talents. Look at what you have and find those three gratitude things every day from your day.

that provides you happiness. The second thing that my father used to say is if it's meant to be, it's up to you.

Rob Pene (08:01.598)

man, okay. That changed things.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (08:05.625)

So, yes, because you want your friend to help you build your business. You want your parents to give you the money to invest in your business. You want your spouse to work next to you even though they have their own job. You want somebody to believe in yourself and your mission, your vision, et cetera. Well, of course we want all of those things.

wouldn't life be just so much easier but that's not reality they have their own lives they have their own purpose they have their own mission in life that they're supposed to accomplish before you know the ending of time for them so you have to realize if it's meant to be it's up to me

Rob Pene (08:58.296)

I like that. Yeah, I would hear if it's meant to be, it's meant to be, but it needs to be wide open. But if it's meant to be, it's up to me. Now I'm held accountable and I could do something about it by trying, just like you said earlier.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (09:02.273)

Yeah

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (09:13.365)

Yes, it's just the matter of finding the power in your own story of success. A lot of people say, well, I don't have success. I'm a medical assistant or I'm a coffee maker. But guess what? That is the story of success. If you're making coffee for people every day, you're bringing a smile, you're bringing energy, you have

you know, a purpose that people don't realize is there's they're like, well, this is what I do. Or for me, someone might say, well, you're a teacher, you know, but I can I can literally say my story of success is more than that. I'm here to teach, navigate and develop people to own their own success. Because many people will say to you,

you're the luckiest person in the world. But luck is only taking preparation and opportunity and bringing them together to meeting. If you have your resume are already ready and you even though you have a job, you keep it up, keep it going. When you go to a networking event or you go, you know, your boss says we're going to open this position. It's not going to take you a week.

to tell him you're interested in the job.

because you can go back to your office, dust it off, take one good read to make sure that there's nothing that you need to add according to whatever it is that you've talked about, and you can hand it to them before they even consider anybody else. So luck is preparation and opportunity. But unless you know your own story of success and you own it and you grab it and you realize that you have

Rob Pene (11:05.059)

Right?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (11:16.712)

value, those steps don't come easy. Instead you'll sit and worry. You'll sit and ask a hundred questions to your coworkers. You think I should apply? Should I do this? Should I do that? No. Own your success. Work every day at being successful and we don't, a lot of times we discount it. We put ourselves on the goodwill rack because we think

Rob Pene (11:35.757)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (11:46.462)

What we do is not important. Our organizations couldn't survive if we weren't doing something that was important. So our story is just that. It is the story of how we spend our time and how we treat others.

Rob Pene (12:05.998)

How would you encourage and recommend people to really nail down their story of success if they're just stuck in limbo and emotions? What would be the first step for them to identify their story of success?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (12:21.459)

Well, the first thing, write down, you know, you can start chronologically your skills, your missions, your values. I do a life balance reflection every three years because I know myself well enough to know that, you know, I will get off balance. I'll become a workaholic. I'll become, you know, obsessed with my house. I'll become obsessed with something. And then I'll find out that I'm not doing anything that's productive for...

either my advancement, my development. There's 13 dimensions in your life that you should be considering. You should be considering your career. You should be considering your finance. You should be considering your loved ones. You should be considering your health. You should be considering your mental health. You know, there's all these aspects of your life, your spiritual connections. You know, not only am I talking, I'm not talking just religion. I'm talking about

Do you have a connection? World You know that that is above and beyond that has values to it What is what is what provides value and energy to yourself? So some people would call that mindfulness and So you you got to you've got to sit down and do some self-reflection and be aware When you become aware of what those skills are a lot of times when people come to me they say, okay

Rob Pene (13:20.728)

Hmm. Hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (13:45.838)

I want a career change, how do I do it? I'll say, let's first of all say to yourself, if you woke up tomorrow and everything was perfect, what does that look like?

Rob Pene (13:56.238)

Hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (13:57.701)

Now first you're gonna want the 19 rooms house and then you'll get to realistic. I don't wanna clean it and that's really not who I am and I really don't, that's not what. And when you get down and you start drilling it down, you realize that your value is more than just the materialistic things that you have provided. Your value and your story of success are the

small things and large things that you've done during the day that make a difference in others, in your organization, and in yourself, such as a gratitude journal. The skyline was beautiful. The wildlife did this. know, whatever made you happy. That story of success if you're a healthcare worker.

is that every day when you go in there, no matter how tired you are, you're making people feel better. If you're a financier, when you go in and you help people with their finances or your organization become healthy financially, your story of success is you've been able to make sure that they make a profit. If you, you know, if you're, if you, let's say you've changed jobs 10 times.

Rob Pene (15:22.328)

Hehe.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (15:24.119)

And someone will say, what kind of success does that show you? That means you're still grooming yourself for your purpose. Means you've ever found the purpose.

Rob Pene (15:32.302)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (15:38.808)

Because if you had passion and purpose, you wouldn't change 10 times.

So it's about finding that passion and purpose. What is it? And a lot of times those 10 jobs give you the story of success because you start looking at it and they're like, oh, wait a minute, I've got a lot of customer service here and I have a lot of marketing there. And then you start putting all the skills together and you're, I can be a public relations person. can, you know, I can do,

Rob Pene (15:46.318)

and

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (16:14.755)

my own business because I know all these different functions especially like think about it that maybe maybe you got a temp job and you worked on um accounts receivable for a company then you turned around and did a temp job again and you got accounts payable department then you did another temp job so they're like oh they're good at filing so then they get a filing department by the time you're done with those 10 temp jobs in the accounting area you know about finance

Rob Pene (16:42.115)

Mm-hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (16:44.14)

So the story of success is finding your passion in it and then also finding your purpose. What is it that drives you to work, to be at home, to be happy, and then realizing that it's the self-awareness that brings you the resilience to get up every day.

Rob Pene (17:05.858)

That's good. That's very good. Because you've done so much in your career, would you say that your passion and purpose were figured out earlier that helped you to kind of push through through everything from all this? Because MBA, PhD, that's a lot of studying. my gosh. It could be easy to give up. So what kept you going throughout all of this?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (17:30.305)

I wanted to be smart. I flunked kindergarten.

I almost didn't graduate.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (17:42.335)

because I, and I had to have a tutor because I was not good at English. So I wanted to be smart. I wanted to be the first woman in my family to go to college. So my passion was built on my downfalls and wanting to be the most excellent person I could be. And then I realized when I got to college,

Rob Pene (18:02.488)

with

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (18:09.726)

and all the fears and everything else. And I wanted to be out in the world because I wanted to, you know, I was from a small town, so I wanted to experience, so I moved straight to Dallas the very first year in college, you know, and I went down there and I realized by reading and studying that there was another model for success and being smart, and that was the EQ model. The EQ model.

Rob Pene (18:35.726)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (18:37.672)

that written originally from Daniel Goldman's books. And so anybody that wants to learn more about emotional intelligence, read some of his books. He found that people are more successful if they have a higher EQ than IQ. It didn't matter if you were just an average IQ person. It mattered whether you are good at your intrapersonal skills, which is your self-awareness.

Rob Pene (19:05.262)

Please.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (19:06.589)

your ability to deal with others, your interpersonal skills, your ability to have empathy for others and put yourself in other people's shoes, your general mood and your stress management. I had one of the most intelligent people that I'd ever seen in my life do an emotional intelligence test for me. And he says, just don't understand why every time I work on something, I've got this high IQ.

and I'm thinking he's going to have a low EQ. And I looked at it and he had a high EQ too. And I'm like, what's going on? So I had to dig into the numbers. He was a zero on two areas, impulse control and stress management.

So every golf outing, gone. Every stressful thing, hiding. So he wasn't addressing, and those are things we can work on. We can put tools in place for these things.

Rob Pene (20:07.342)

Mm-hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (20:09.213)

You you can actually work on your emotional intelligence scores and they build where EQ won't. Or IQ.

Rob Pene (20:17.218)

Mmm.

That's interesting. So you're, are you working on a book now?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (20:25.487)

Yes, I am. what I decided to do to prove to myself that I could actually be a good writer because I've always struggled is I first wrote a fiction novel and it's called Crossroads and my and I'm trying to get it there and it doesn't like me too much. There we go. And Crossroads is a who-done-it thriller, kind of like an Agatha Christie, you know, thrill.

and everybody in it's got life balance issues. So you've got the workaholic, you've got the person that is dedicated to law and order and he's the prosecutor. And then you've got the, there's a guy that's the co-defendant that's dedicated to his friends and doesn't wanna be the rat. And so he doesn't wanna turn state on his friend. So guess what? He's gonna be liable for the crime of murder also. Well, if he doesn't,

And so you have all these people aligned to the wrong purpose in their life. And when you reach that crossroads, everybody has a decision. Even the juror that's this workaholic, how are you going to handle being in this week-long event and still do everything? If you know a workaholic, you throw something new at them, it doesn't work very well. Meanwhile, things start happening to the jury.

and I explore those three emotions, anger, fury, and envy. All three of them are shown. That could be a reason for a crime, and then as things start happening and the clues are dropped, you gotta figure out what's going on and why. Meryl Hemingway, some people may know who she is. The younger generation might say, I've heard the name, not sure. She's an Academy Award winning actress that worked with Woody Allen.

Her grandfather is Ernest Hemingway of the Old Man and the Sea. She read the book and endorsed it. And she put it in her book club. And the reason, she said, is we all reach a crossroads where we have to make a decision on success or failure, which way we're going to go. And she said, even chocolate has an expiration date.

Rob Pene (22:38.126)

Hmmmm

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (22:39.276)

And that's true. we don't. after I did that, started, you know, I have these workbooks that I do with my students. So we've got the life balance workbook. Late to those, can go in, the people that are listening can go out there and they can work on their life balance skills, try to find happiness, find out that maybe they shouldn't watch so much TV. They should be doing more activities outside or whatever makes them happy.

Rob Pene (22:50.829)

Mm-hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (23:09.178)

And then since every one of the fiction novels that I'm gonna write or have written are gonna be who did it thriller, we've got the resilient book. We're gonna learn how to a better resilient person. So my model or my goal of what people could look at is I'm gonna write a fiction novel, then there'll be a self-help if you relate to these people or these scenarios, they could have happened to you, you can go get the workbook and let's work through it together.

Rob Pene (23:18.763)

Yes!

Rob Pene (23:42.804)

What would be?

your encouragement to people that are just kind of stuck in the story they're telling themselves that was birthed by other people, telling them that they can't do it, or you're good where you're at, and they feel like they want to do better, but they're just influenced by that story from other people.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (24:07.096)

That self-talk. Let me tell you about a story they told me when I was little. They told me I was allergic to peanuts. Everybody, every restaurant I went to, every place we went, be careful. Don't let anybody give you peanuts. Be careful. They're telling all the waiters, waitress, are you sure you didn't put peanuts in her food, peanut butter or anything? And you know, I ate a peanut accidentally.

Rob Pene (24:12.461)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (24:34.165)

I didn't end up in the hospital.

There was no change in my body, no throat closing up, and I'm like, okay, maybe it was just that peanut. And I'm talking to my husband and he's like, well, you can't sit here and try to eat every peanut and find out, so go and get tested. I'm now allergic to peanuts. Never been allergic to peanuts. I had a reaction to something one day, but it wasn't peanuts.

Rob Pene (24:58.37)

No way.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (25:05.077)

The point in that is, is people tell you a lot of things. It's up to you to find out what the truth is. Who are you? What passions do you have? What drives you? And if you stop now, will you regret it?

Rob Pene (25:13.783)

Hmm.

Rob Pene (25:21.856)

Hmmmm

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (25:24.116)

Regret is its own kind of animal. Let your inner beast out. And I'm not saying come in and tear up the house. I'm talking about who are you? So many times, you know, I've had many different little layers of my life. One, you know, I stayed in academics and then, you know, life hit me and, you know, I had to step back from the academics and open up my own consulting.

Rob Pene (25:30.926)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (25:53.812)

and that life hit moment was painful, it was hard, it was, you know, life changing. But then I realized that I could help others because of it better. You know, when your life changes, if you're out there going through a divorce, if you're going through illness, if you're going through a death, you're going through caregiving to a loved one, whatever, I've done all of them at this point in my life. I am seasoned, you can see the gray. You'll find...

that each one of those life hit moments or even ones that you made yourself makes you a bigger, better, and I won't say a bad word, person so that you can find hope in the darkness of any moment. My son was gotten killed. My father has died of emphysema. My mother died of breast cancer. I've been sick before. My husband's been sick before.

Rob Pene (26:39.991)

OOF

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (26:52.456)

But that's life. Life is always gonna bring you good and bad moments. It's up to us to find the joy in every second, even when those life-hitting moments hurt. Pull into the church and get prayer if you're crying and you're feeling destitute and you're finding no hope, because guess what? There's gonna be somebody there that's gonna lay hands on you.

Put oil on your head, get you on a mat and make you pray. Get you walking around the building to settle you down, whatever it is that you need or just say the right words. Because you're in a community. And when you do that, you realize, okay, I'm still sorrowful, I'm still going through grief or I'm still feeling sick in my body. But you realize that those moments still brought you happiness, they still brought you peace.

and you can go home and rest a little easier because you made that stop, you took that walk, you called that friend.

and you realize you're not in it alone. then that season passes. That season passes because it never goes away because you always miss your parents, you always mourn a divorce, you always go through these things, right? And realize that you've had some kind of truth that you figured out during that process, but also during that process you realize that you also won.

because it's part of your story of success. Because you still got up out of bed, you still put one foot in front of the other, and you still said, thank you God for a miserable day that whenever you were going through it.

Rob Pene (28:34.018)

Wow.

Rob Pene (28:47.222)

Yeah, wow.

That's so insightful, but at the same time, it's kind of scary because when you're going through it, you feel alone when the reality is you're never alone, it sounds like.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (28:55.078)

Mm-hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (28:59.153)

Yeah. And that's the hardest part. I remember feeling at times, you know, especially after my adopted son was shot and killed at work, I remember someone saying, well, you know, find faith again. I'm like, how can you find faith after that? And they're like, well, why wouldn't you lean on God? And I'm like, well, my God would be judgmental of my thoughts.

And then they said, fire your god.

Rob Pene (29:31.489)

Hmm

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (29:33.816)

And I'm like, and rehire the God that you need because the God that you love, the God that you cry to, the God that you pray to will understand that what you need. And you know what? I did that. found, I was walking and it was a park and there was this tree that was dead and desolate in the middle of the water.

You would never think it would come back to life again. I said, that is my God because that is how I feel.

Rob Pene (30:07.822)

Mmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (30:08.868)

by the end of the summer of talking to that tree, it had leaves. It bloomed. It became like a brilliant tree that in the fall turned into a beautiful foliage again. And I learned then it's our perception sometimes that holds us back from some of the most healthiest things.

to get us there. It could be, you know, thinking about Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and the song, put one foot in front of the other. It can be anything that makes us more passionate about healing ourselves or we can choose a different path. We can hit that crossroads and decide to stay in bed, decide to run everybody off.

Rob Pene (30:51.809)

Hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (31:07.267)

We can be the old lady in the house next door to people that everybody's afraid of because you're yelling and screaming at all the kids.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (31:18.54)

Which path do you want? Do you want to accept that loss is part of life? That, you know, making mistakes are okay as long as you don't do them every day? That you have to change your course once you realize you've made that mistake? Because we're all stubborn. None of us want to change unless we have to. So which one is it that you want to do?

Do you want to have moments of happiness?

It's a choice. you know, get the mental health help that you might need too. If there is a substitute to help you, whether it might be, you know, a drug that they tell you that will help you with your depression, if it's a...

You know so many of the things that are in herbs and spices and all these things sometimes you're just changing your diet can help especially if you if anybody in your family has diabetes that can make make your mood swings terrible, so Spend the time and become aware of what builds resilience for you and keep pushing forward and when you do that and you name the

Rob Pene (32:30.679)

Hmm.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (32:43.232)

the pain, it's so much easier, you realize the pain's creeping back up at that moment, you figure out a tool that helps you get out of it, and you keep working.

Rob Pene (32:53.55)

That's good. That's good. I really appreciate all the nurturing, encouraging illustrations that you're giving because it's very real and it's very relatable issues that people deal with all day. And some, as you mentioned, I'm like, yes, I like that because I could use that. So this is very, very, very good. I appreciate it. Now, what's the easiest way for people to find you?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (33:13.354)

Right.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (33:18.421)

Well, my website, I try to make it easy, rondaparkertaylor.com is my website and all my social media is on there, my blog and everything. And it has the links for Amazon or Barnes and Noble or my consulting. That's the easiest way to do it because most people can remember rondaparkertaylor.com.

Rob Pene (33:43.534)

Yeah. And then what types of companies or industries do you consult for?

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (33:50.186)

A lot of academics, do a lot of dissertation and capstone mentoring. I also do business consulting when they're doing transition or succession plans on the individual level and sometimes marketing plans too. I'm not a marketer, I don't do the design work, don't ask me, I don't know one color from another. I must be color blind because I have to rely on somebody else on those cases.

Rob Pene (33:55.949)

OOF

Rob Pene (34:03.051)

OOOH

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (34:19.517)

But also then on the individual level, I do the emotional intelligence testing and assessments to help you build a plan for a stronger, more successful you.

Rob Pene (34:32.536)

That's very powerful. seems like it's all connected to religion.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (34:35.057)

Yes, the story of success, whether it be an organization or an individual.

Rob Pene (34:40.642)

Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. You, you definitely are the one you are the powerhouse. Yeah. Bonafide. I appreciate it. so people go to Rhonda Parker, Taylor.com and then find all the socials, Amazon, Barnes and Noble. And if you're interested or know of companies that need succession planning or people that are going into their PhDs, their doctorates, they need that help make sure to hit up Rhonda. She is the one as you guys can hear.

from this episode. So appreciate you guys sticking around and listening and Ron up. Thank you so much. God bless you. Appreciate you.

Rhonda Parker-Taylor (35:15.753)

Thank you, Rob. I'm so glad that we got this time together.