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Why Isabella Bedoya Left a Million Dollar AI Agency to Start Over

• Rob Pene

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Isabella Bedoya went from 2,000 to 13,000 followers in ONE WEEKEND with a single post that hit 1.2 million views. Now she's building AI agents that replace entire sales teams and licensing technology that could make her millions. 

In this explosive conversation, she reveals the exact formula she used to spot trends before they blow up, the 3-step AI agent system that creates her content automatically, and why she thinks we're in the biggest gold rush since Bitcoin. Plus: her controversial take on why AI won't steal jobs, it'll create them for the people smart enough to learn.

Biggest Takeaways:

✅ The Pattern Recognition Formula: Watch what's trending on TikTok → Adapt it for LinkedIn with your spin → Use ChatGPT to make it valuable, not gossip-y

✅ The AI Content System: 3 agents that scrape competitors, analyze your performance, and create personalized content using your stories

✅ The Positioning Shift: Stop selling complicated AI setups → Start selling "AI employees" for simple annual fees

✅ The Mindset Hack: Use EFT tapping, hypnosis, and meditation to "brainwash yourself" past fear and limiting beliefs

Tools & Resources Mentioned:

  • Relay.app (for building AI agents without coding)
  • GetMunch & Captions AI (video editing automation)
  • HeyRosie.com (advanced voice agents for local business)
  • Google's V03 (next-level AI video generation)
  • ChatGPT (content ideation and trend analysis)

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Golden Quote:

"We're in a gold rush right now. It's the rise of the solopreneur. Companies are already doing layoffs over AI, you either get in front of it or stay complacent and complain that AI is coming for you."

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so we have Isabella Bedoya today and the conversation about AI is super hot. So when I saw Isabella's post about AI and how she's doing a bunch of different things, it was great. And then there was a sharp pivot. I'm like, ooh, she was in the AI space and then she pivoted even deeper into the AI space. So I'm like, okay. Gotta have this conversation. Like, okay, what does she know that the majority of us don't know? So typically on the podcast, I'd like to ask this question. It's a doozy, but I think you'll do fine. And the question is, in the last six to 12 months, if you were to reflect back on the last six to 12 months of your life and then turn it into a Netflix special, what would your special be about? And what would it be called?

SPEAKER_02:

my gosh what a great question well first of all thank you for having me i'm really excited to to reconnect oh my gosh if i had a netflix special i think the last 12 months have really been a roller coaster i'll come up with the name towards the end of my explanation maybe it'll come to me but uh but or maybe the ai roller coaster would be the name no

SPEAKER_00:

that's good

SPEAKER_02:

12 months ago essentially it was like the transition into it's actually been two years it's crazy how fast time flies But about two years ago, I got really heavily involved into AI voice, voice agents. And the last year specifically, I merged my agency with someone else and we were working together and we were implementing AI agents and AI voice agents to help essentially like take over the role of junior level salespeople. So that it would go from like, instead of being just like, you know, your entry level sales reps that don't really know how to do a proper sales qualification. Now they would be bumped up to their next role and or to the next level in their career and then have AI do all that mundane grunt work that everybody has to do. So it was a roller coaster in the sense that first it was like trying to figure out how to package this in a way that Make sense to business owners, especially the ones that aren't open to change. How do we make this make sense? And then also, how do you explain the value that it brings so that you don't get asked to do it for free, which is a common request in the AI space. Because everyone wants proof of concept. Everyone wants to try it and they all expect it for free. So rollercoaster in that sense. How to package it, how to make it actually work. Partnership dynamics, right? How do you make your partnership work? And then back to like leaving and starting your own business, I guess. Yeah,

SPEAKER_01:

it's a roller coaster. Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, because you really hit the ground running on LinkedIn and then grew your audience with AI and became one of the go-to people. And then that major shift, but it was inside of AI. So when you started that push for AI, was it all purely voice or did you like, okay, let me show you GBT and then it kind of migrated into voice?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so... I mean, we've known each other since I was like running FameHackers, right? And back then I was doing coaching for, I was coaching musicians and creatives on how to monetize their social media and how to grow their social media. So because of that, I stumbled upon AI tools in 2022 before, you know, the rest of the world. And I started realizing that a lot of my friends that are coaches, they're building personal brands. They're trying to figure out how do we create TikToks. So I said, let me create that as an offer. So I started going to my friends and I'm like, okay, I will make your TikTok videos, send me the raw footage. And when I started getting the people to support, there was people offshore that were charging$45 an hour and it would take them a full day to create one 30 second TikTok video, editing your video to the popular Alex Ramosi styles.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So I was like, well, that's not scalable and it's not affordable. So, um, I ran into like a tool called Get Munch, I think. And then another one called Captions AI. And within like a three or four hour work session, one of my team members was able to do someone's entire week of content. So I was just like, this is absolutely bananas. And then ChatGVT comes out in November or November, I think of that year. And at first I was like, I would not, you know, okay, cool. A chatbot. Great. Big deal. But I think it was like a month later that I had to do a marketing brief. And I said, OK, let me try this on chat GBT. And a whole two, three days worth of work was condensed to like a two hour, you know, short focus session. And that's when I was just like, this is insane.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I

SPEAKER_02:

need to talk about this. I need to transition. Well, at that time, I didn't think of transitioning yet. I was just like, how do I apply this? And it took me a little bit of time to actually transition fully. But it was wow. It was. life-changing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And it quickly grew. Like, I mean, AI just grew fast, but then your ascension into the AI space as a thought leader happened like super fast and then it just skyrocketed. It's like, man,

SPEAKER_02:

it's crazy. It's the timing, you know, that's actually like my mentality around it. When I started shifting into, I said, let me just make a post about ChatGPT and see what happens. And I saw the reaction and And then nothing went viral or anything. It took a few weeks and a few attempts to actually get something to go viral. But I just remember the feedback and the engagement that I was getting. And I realized, okay, there's actually something here. And then I just got into my head and I was like, I was early days Bitcoin. I was early day TikTok. I was early day Shopify and all these trends. And I always said, I want to do it. And then I would not do it. And You know, I let all those things literally just go right past me, even though I was still involved at those certain times in those spaces, which is crazy that I let so many opportunities, you know, fly right past me. So when this is now coming out and I'm seeing the positive reactions, I'm like, I'm not going to let this one slide. There's no way.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah,

SPEAKER_02:

I learned not anymore. I want to be on the forefront. And that's what really like lit a fire under me. And I was just like obsessed for the first year, at least I was religiously every day posting something new. And that's what helped build that traction. Cause at the time, not a lot of people were talking about it. So it was that like first mover advantage almost.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So man, there's two things that's coming to mind is how do you spot? Cause it sounds like you have a history of spotting trends and, and finding things before they blow. So that's number one. The number two is how did you get over that history of like, okay, I know that's going to take off. I'm interested, but I'm not, I don't do it. Like, how do you, how did you get over that? So the first thing, the, uh, Trendsetter, Trendspotter, or something like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, Trendspotter. I don't know. I think this is just how I've always been. When I was working as a private chef, I was working with a family that was heavily into Bitcoin and crypto. And at the time, Bitcoin, which is crazy, Bitcoin's now like$115,000 or something. At the time, Bitcoin was like maybe around 10k and and in one of those months it actually had his peak of 18 000 and i remember that vividly we were all looking at it and i was just like man and now you know look at the time that's passed and i'm still man i still have some i have some bitcoin but not like you know ready to go retire on an island so so anyways that's i think i've just always i i'm very observant even when like like not just observant i think it's the the fast action Because even like the TikTok video offer, no one was offering TikTok video editing except for like if you're really in the space and you look for video editors. So even that, had I actually pursued that as a whole business model, that was also very early on in the now everyone's offering video creation and video editing. So I think it's just like be aware of what's happening. listen but pay attention to what people are saying the problems are and then try to create or think of what can you offer around those problems and a lot of the times it just takes people a long time to say to connect the dots like oh that's a problem oh how can i solve it it's just like yeah no nothing exists

SPEAKER_01:

but

SPEAKER_02:

we all have the power to create something like right now

SPEAKER_01:

yeah now how would you because There's a lot of really cool things out there and different solutions that address a particular problem. How would people know that is actually a real bona fide, legitimate opportunity?

SPEAKER_02:

I think the best test really is when people actually pay you for something. Because then for sure, you're getting compensated, which is validating. But I mean, I've had a lot of ideas. I've had a lot of ideas like I had and I probably have them somewhere in my office. When I was trying to Shopify thing, I bought these glasses that you would snap them on your hand and it would just be like a wristband. You know, and I thought it was cool. But when I took it to Shopify, it didn't sell. And then I found a dog bed. And then the dog bed was those like circular donut shaped beds. They're very fluffy. And I started selling that. And It actually started generating sales. So I was like, okay, that was interesting. I think for that one, I think it goes back to just social listening. What's going on? What are people saying? Because that's how I found the dog bed. Unfortunately, I had to shut it down because of COVID. And that dog bed now is actually sold everywhere. It became popular. It's sold in all the pet stores and everything.

SPEAKER_00:

Quick

SPEAKER_02:

tips. Yeah, I know. A lot of missed opportunities. But this is what helped me grow and realize a hardship, at least what I learned with the dog beds. Just because the warehouse that I was working with shut down didn't mean shut down the whole business. It was just someone that's open.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. You've got an eye for what's relevant and what hits. Now, how did you get over the... Like, man, I didn't do it then. Maybe I shouldn't do it now. I know you said you just kind of hit it hard. But getting to that point, right, probably took a ton of self-reflection and meandering. What was that process like?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's a great question. I just remember seeing. So I remember like I it was actually a decision. It was like a pivotal decision moment. And I will never forget it. March 1st, 2023. I was so determined. Just had a really, I guess, harsh conversation with myself. And I was just like, I've helped all of these people grow on social media. I've helped all of these people generate revenue on social media. Why do I not still have a personal brand? This is not acceptable.

SPEAKER_00:

So

SPEAKER_02:

then I said, I gave myself, it's March 1st, I give myself till December 31st of this year to grow at least 5,000 followers on one platform. And at the time I was like really leaning into LinkedIn. So I said, I know all the best practices. I know all the strategies. Just do it. So every day I started posting and it didn't take till December 31st. It was actually March 21st that I had a post hit a million and something views.

SPEAKER_01:

Wait, like less than 20 days?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. of just being like really strict with myself on like the discipline of doing the things that I know work. And it took 21 days to go from like, stop messing around to just do the thing. And March 21st, I had a post that hit like 1.2 million impressions or something. And I went from 2000 followers to 13,000 followers in one weekend. And I was just like, okay, there for sure is something here. And that's when I, I just kept going.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so there might be an unfair advantage because you're already an expert in the marketing social media space. But for the regular person that's like, I'm going to commit, but I don't know if I have that magic, right? Outside of really, really hyper-focused, what did you do, man? Was it a combination of messaging and then the image that was captivating or controversial? What can the regular person test? Be like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it goes back to that same thing of spotting patterns of social media. So

SPEAKER_01:

you cheated.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. You

SPEAKER_01:

cheated and you tapped into your own superpower.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, no, no, no. I mean, everyone has access to social media. So this is actually very formulaic. Anyone can tell this. So yeah, it's not just intuition, but... So what I did is I started, so everyone's on LinkedIn and everybody knows that whatever happens on LinkedIn is usually a little bit more delayed than what's happening on TikTok. So I just started watching what content was performing on TikTok. And then one day I saw this girl post a video about how to create carousels for Instagram using Canva's new like bulk feature automation. And I was just like, the first time that I saw it, I was like, okay, that's cool. I don't use Instagram anymore. you know, at the moment I'm focused on LinkedIn, but then I saw the video again in that same week. And now I said, wait a minute, LinkedIn carousels are like a really big thing. It doesn't have to be Instagram. It can be LinkedIn carousels. So I took that whole concept and I just like made it my own and about LinkedIn carousels. And it was a trending video on TikTok. So it was basically bringing that, like that TikTok trend into LinkedIn and

SPEAKER_00:

And

SPEAKER_02:

that works. And same thing happened recently. We're working on an app and I saw the trending story of the CEO that got caught in the Coldplay scandal.

SPEAKER_00:

And

SPEAKER_02:

I saw the video start populating earlier in the day. And I said, we need to bring this over and create a video. And we did. And that was like one of the higher views on the account so far. I think we got like 7,000 impressions on Facebook and LinkedIn on this brand new account. So it's like just crazy. Figure out what's trending, figure out what people are talking about, and then put your spin on it. Add it to the conversation.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so it's what's trending in social media in general, because it's social media, it should hit in other social media platforms, basically.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, not just it should hit, but it's like the psychology of like, why did it? Why is it performing? Why are people clicking? And then if you bring that to other platforms, depending on who's on the platforms, you'll get different reactions. But it's like a proven piece of content. It's like a proven content piece.

SPEAKER_01:

So taking the principle and then applying it to the platform with your spin.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

And then that's where chat GPT can come in is you can ask it, Hey, what's, what are the principles that's making this thing? And what do you think? And then you take that and then you run with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. And also ask it. Cause that's what I did. I said, how do I turn this so that it's not like a tabloidy, you

SPEAKER_00:

know,

SPEAKER_02:

so that people don't say like, you're just gossiping about this guy. And it's like, that's not the image that I would want to portray. So it's like, how do I actually turn this into a value piece?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's good. Yes, that is all right. Doable in my mind. I'm like, okay, I'm going to try it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Find something that's trending. Take it to ChatGPT to help you figure out, first of all, why. So you start learning for your own content what you could do better. And then second thing is figure out like how can you portray it for under your own brand persona.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So do you have a bot for that?

SPEAKER_02:

don't but there should be I have an agent actually so I have an agent which is like a little bit I think more than more complicated but then than just like the bot but what the agent does right now is it scrapes it's like a three-step agent so it scrapes the top competitors in the space. So let's say that there's other people talking about AI. I put them all in my little list of people to scrape and I have the agent go out and tell me every week what content they posted, what were their impressions or not impressions because I can't see that, but what were the reactions, the comments and an analysis of why it thinks it performed well and how can we apply those principles to my content. Then I have the second bot or agent that the agent goes out now and scrapes my content for the last seven days tells me what performed well, what didn't perform well, what can I do better and what it suggests for the following week. And then I have a third agent that brings together the influencer research one, like the competitor research, my personal research and my knowledge base of my stories, my challenges, all that. And it creates content for the week so that I can just copy and paste that. And it's already personalized with best practices, what other creators are doing, What I'm doing and my stories. And

SPEAKER_01:

is this you on a Gumloop or N8N?

SPEAKER_02:

So this is actually, I used, I love N8N, but for this one, I just set it up really quick on relay.app. It's very user-friendly for people that are like not technical.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I really like relay. N8N is awesome. I have some really cool automations there, but for relay, it's kind of reads like a workflow. So it's easier for people that aren't like used to seeing this to see it. And I have it live on a Notion. So the agent's currently storing and reading Notion to create content and tweets. It also, I'm going to start posting on Twitter. So I just programmed it to take whatever posts we're writing for LinkedIn for the week to just transcribe it into tweets.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And all of this, you didn't go to college for it. Not at all. You didn't do all that certification. You just kind of, because you were in social media and then you pivoted to it. So the new pivot that was, another part of the roller coaster from general AI thought leadership into voice. So you're just doing voice now.

SPEAKER_02:

So I was. I left the agency. But for the last year, we were voice agents. It was a really interesting experience. I think the first challenge that we had around that was really like, how do you generate this as a value add to a business?

SPEAKER_00:

And

SPEAKER_02:

at the time, I remember... people i was working with like they didn't really like there was really no direction i think uh one of the guys he was charging five grand and 1500 a month so five grand for a setup 5500 for a setup or something and i saw that we were having a lot of meetings but it wasn't really like going anywhere so then i realized from just like marketing and sales principles um it's because the offer was a little complicated. And when we're explaining to someone that doesn't know AI, all of a sudden it's like, we have to build a new system Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. Like that's a crazy proposition already, right? That's what the business owner is thinking because we know it will work. But the business owner is like, I don't know if it'll work. Then you have to pay a monthly and then you have to pay Twilio for your minutes and then you have to pay AI for the minutes. So you're trying to sell one person on four items at once. It's hard. So what I did is I transitioned that into what if we just charge 20K for six months and that's it, nothing else. And that seemed to get a little bit more easier to understand because now I had to repackage the whole thing into AI employees. So I said, you're paying for yourself maybe a hundred grand a year. We can automate that whole thing for 20 grand. Now we're actually making six grand more in a six month period. And it's a way easier conversation. So, so yeah, so that was like the last year is really like selling those. That offer ended up transitioning into a growth partner offer.

SPEAKER_00:

So

SPEAKER_02:

it became something along the lines of like, you know, we'll end up having to also run the agents for you. And then that was just more of a six-figure annual investment with revenue share. So her commitment, I should say, six-figure annual commitment and then revenue share on whatever. So that was like, I guess, towards the end. Maybe that was like this whole year towards the end of the time that I was there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Okay, so it's more like an agency per se, not necessarily voice, but voice was one of the leading messages that went out like the campaigns and

SPEAKER_02:

stuff. Yeah, it was exactly it was voice agents, it was really it was like sales automation, because it was integrating the voice agents to not just do calls, but to then take actions inside of your go high level account. So we had created this whole system on top of GHL, even before GHL came out with agents. And it was basically a lot of the things that GHL now has, like the AI testimonials, we had already automated that before them. A lot of the things that they created, we had already done. And that's what we were essentially selling a full end-to-end sales automation. Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

Wow. So then now you're doing still AI.

SPEAKER_02:

Still AI agents, not just voice, but just more broad as well. And I'm really having a lot of fun with the content agents. Just yesterday, I finally set up my agent that can generate AI videos. So it's using HeyGen for my avatar. And then, so I'm going to start posting a lot of videos now.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, cool. What do you think of the new VO3?

SPEAKER_02:

VO3 is like really crazy. I've seen some crazy videos and it's just, It really is. I mean, if it was like able to produce 30 seconds or 60 seconds, like that would be insane for ads.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's man, there's some crazy faceless accounts that are super funny, but also like, it's funny, but then there's, it's also what's the word offensive. There's some that are like, I've, I've binge watched the faceless Bible stories, you know? Yeah. Moses parting the red team. Like, Hey guys.

UNKNOWN:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

it's hilarious man um rosie i haven't heard of hey rosie calm which is r-o-s-i-e man incredible voice agent that is specific to like the local business um i've tried it when it first came out and it was choppy now it's so much better oh my

SPEAKER_02:

gosh yeah voice has really oh my gosh yeah when it first came out like a few years ago it was calls withdraw it was like a nightmare

SPEAKER_00:

Or

SPEAKER_02:

it would say something like very like, it would say, for example, like, hi, how are you? Are

SPEAKER_00:

you

SPEAKER_02:

doing

SPEAKER_00:

well?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, right now, Claude's voice, that's exactly Claude's voice. Yeah, GBT is way better for the voice.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

UNKNOWN:

Having conversations and stuff. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. It's really powerful. If you get it to, and it doesn't just have to be like over the phone. There's like orbs that you can put on your website as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

SPEAKER_02:

yeah. Yeah. So it's just, it's crazy. It's, it's really making the whole, it's shifting. Like, at least in my perspective, it's shifting sales and marketing a hundred percent as we know it. But I think what is also going to happen is right now, I think a lot of businesses are like, Oh, schedule a call. We'll help you out.

SPEAKER_00:

And the

SPEAKER_02:

AI. And I think what's really going to happen is this big, like shift into buyers enablement. So not necessarily right now, it's very like sales centric. Like where's my sales rep? You know, what, what can I do for you? All these things. I think it's really going to transition into the buyers just being so savvy about who you are and what you do that it's going to make that whole sales process a lot faster and smoother if the business is doing a good job of providing all the materials. So it's going to pre-build. I think that at least that's where it is headed. It's like building all that trust before you even get on a call, if you even need to get on a call.

SPEAKER_01:

So that's where the content comes in. You just flood it with All the facts, videos on that, and then just your content, education, lifestyle stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Provide a lot of value. It's really crazy because there's a lot of... I actually learned this from Alex Ramosi. In one of his videos a few years ago, he talked about his whole entire content strategy. And one of the things he said was like, Give value, even if you're like afraid to post it because you should be charging for that. Give value because your competitors aren't doing that. And if you can deliver exactly what people need on social media, they're going to then perceive you as if that was your free content, how much better must your paid content be? Yeah. And then they're going to want to like, you know, pursue working with you.

SPEAKER_01:

So you got to flood the market with basically everything you've got, essentially. Yeah, the best stuff.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they're not going to implement it. And I've seen that firsthand. I've given away a lot of stuff in the last two years. And people still come either they come immediately and they're like, okay, I want to work with you now. I saw this was helpful, you know, etc. Or they'll come back like a few months down the road or six months or even I've had people a year down the road. And they're like, I've been watching everything. I've been studying everything. I've been applying everything. And now I know that I need someone else's help. And you're the only person I can think of. And that's the goal.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, business is a long-term thing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I like that. So you started your own new agency for yourself.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Is that the goal, to push it as far as you can? Because it sounds like you got some chops on Shopify because you could be running like a Shopify or Amazon store on the side and make millions there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So right now I just, I actually... I rethought about this whole thing. The last three months, I took time to figure out how do I reenter. When I was trying to leave my voice agency, I was trying to figure out if I could sell at least my half or something. Even though it was a revolutionary technology and it was really changing the world, the M&A lawyers that I spoke with, they all told me that it was a heavy human-centric business. So even though we were putting AI automation in businesses, we should have been worth way more. But we required a lot of humans to scale. So then that put this whole thoughts into my head of like, how do I not end up in that situation? Because I know that Lovable, for example, they have 40 people on their team and they just got a$2 billion valuation. The 17-year-old Zach Yadigari, he built CalAI in... the last 12 months, he already got it to 30 million. So I just started brainstorming and thinking a lot around that and how to do it in a way that it doesn't like lead to burnout. Because I think I was like, very much on the path to burnout and probably did burn out when I left the voice agency. So the vision that I have right now is, so I just launched AI Billionaire Labs. It's more of a community style thing. It's a lot more scalable and it's just like a place where everyone can learn and share agents and come together and build apps and all of this. But the vision really behind all of this, I would like to get into, and this is what I'm actively working on, is creating a, most likely a certification program

SPEAKER_00:

and

SPEAKER_02:

take that into universities and have them license that. And in terms of like agents and automations and all of this, I would still pursue that, but not from an agency level where it's just like, you know, building things for a few grand or whatever, but really pursue that from a content licensing as well. So if I build the agents and however this ends up being playing out, I would want to license that to companies rather than just being stuck being an agency.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you build your agents and license the capabilities of those agents.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And that's probably going to require some vibe coding for like a user interface or something.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. So they have like, I guess in a way it's like an operating system.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. Have you seen, I forgot his name, man, but the HubSpot guy, I think he might be the CMO or COO or something like that. Yeah,

SPEAKER_02:

Urgent AI or something.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a marketplace for builders and agents. I just stumbled across it like earlier this week. I haven't spent time in it, but it seems interesting.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I haven't spent that much time in it either, but it does seem interesting. It seems like he built a place where you can just essentially build and it's like a upwork for agents. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, he knows what he's doing and He's got the resources to get it done. So that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02:

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01:

Man, are you excited for the future? I

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am very excited. Another thing I also forgot to mention is in addition to like all of these things, I have been working for the past, like maybe two years or so now with a couple of other people. And about a year ago, we started working on this idea of building an AI app for divorce. So we're getting ready to launch that hopefully within the next month. So really it's, The whole trajectory, at least of like how I envision the next three to five years is really going to be apps and agents in some capacity.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's in the market and create an app for it. And yeah, so that essentially would be the SaaS.

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Yeah, exactly. The SaaS models.

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Yeah,

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SaaS is blowing up. But no, I am very excited for the future, I think. For anyone that's watching or listening, I think if you haven't gotten involved with AI, you have to. There's no going around it because the way that I kind of saw it or see it still is... The world is going to change. It's already changing. Companies are already doing layoffs over AI. So it's either do you get in front of it or do you just stay complacent and complain that AI is coming for you? I don't fully believe that AI will replace a lot of jobs. I think it's more of an augmentation and it's going to create more jobs, if anything, or different jobs. But it's going to create the jobs for the people that are willing to learn how to use AI. We're in a gold rush right now. It's like, in my opinion, I think it's like the rise of the solopreneur. We have all the tools. We have everything.

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Wow. I think that's your, the rise of the solopreneur through rollercoaster peaks and valleys. Exactly. Oh, that's the

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Netflix.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the title. Well, good. So if anybody had any questions about it or even, you know, agents, where would they go to find you?

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So my LinkedIn is like the best place right now. Isabella Bedoya. My website is izzygpt.com.

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I'm

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becoming an AI. izzygpt.com. And then my-

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And that's I-S-I or I- No,

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I-Z-Z-Y. Well,

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I-Z-Z-Y.

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I-Z-Z-Y-G-P-T.com. And then that is the same handle that I have on YouTube and on Twitter and TikTok. And I still have to create my meta accounts, but-

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Yeah. Oh, dude, that's a great one. I like that one.

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Thank you. It just came to me one day. Like I had, I had Isabella Bedoya.ai and I always thought that is so long. And I was just writing something and I said, is he GPT? And I'm like, oh my gosh, immediately all my handles were available. I changed everything.

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Got it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Smart move. Yeah. There's a, there's someone, her handle is cat GPT.

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Oh, I've seen her on a, on a, on Instagram, I think.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Does she end up getting, do you know, I don't know if you follow her consistently, but did you ever see if she got her trip sponsored?

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Big money, dude. Big money. Kajabi. Kajabi.

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Kajabi. Wow.

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Dumped all kinds of money. First class. Everything, man.

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Wow. That's

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awesome. That's the power of being an influencer, right? Yeah. Yeah. So.

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Yeah. Build a personal brand and learn AI. That's the two key takeaways for anyone

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listening. Yes. Build a personal brand and learn AI. Yeah, and overcome your fear.

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You just have to. You have to. I think it's the battle of the mindset, you know. It's either hold yourself back or you find ways or people or tools. I use a lot of like EFT tapping and hypnosis. Like there's a lot of videos on YouTube for hypnosis and meditations and sound baths. And that combination of all three, it like really makes a difference.

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Wow. Okay, I'll have to check it out. That sounds interesting. Yeah. You've

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got to brainwash yourself.

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Yeah, for

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me, I might.

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Cool. Well, it's good to see you. Good to catch up again.

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Thanks, likewise.

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And good luck with everything. If there's anything I could do, yeah, let me know.

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Absolutely. Thank you, Rob. Thank you for having me.

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Yep.