Ehmandah Ramsey Can See Through Your Social Media Posts And Here's How

What happens when you shake a soda can and never release the pressure? It explodes. Pastor's daughter turned women's empowerment coach Ehmandah Ramsey reveals why successful women are having public breakdowns - and how to spot the warning signs before it's too late.

In this raw conversation, Ehmandah breaks down the "soda can effect" destroying women's lives, shares how to see through perfect social media facades, and explains why giving advice actually hurts more than it helps. 

From her unique perspective as a PK (pastor's kid) to her work creating safe spaces for authentic healing, Ehmandah offers a roadmap for supporting women before they reach their breaking point.

You'll discover:

• The shocking truth about what's really behind those perfect Instagram posts
• How one simple shift in listening can transform your relationships
• Why "bedside Baptist" Christianity is setting people up for spiritual isolation
• The unexpected burden of growing up as a pastor's kid
• How sharing your story becomes part of your healing process

Connect with Ehmandah: @ehmanda on Facebook

If you know someone who looks like they have it all together but might be struggling inside, share this episode. It could save a life.

Transcript

Rob Pene (00:01.228)
Okay, welcome everybody. You guys are entering mid conversation. So welcome to the show. This is with Amanda Ramsey. We were just trying to figure out, so how did we meet, man? It's been years. There's something to do with music and church and all that stuff. Now I definitely reached out because I remember back then it was through music. And then I started to follow you and see the different things that you were doing. And then it just got better quality, better quality, more consistent. I'm like, yeah, dude.

Ehmandah Ramsey (00:14.438)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (00:24.933)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (00:30.862)
She definitely has a vision and I can see it transform. So I'm like, yeah, let's, let's, it's probably a good time to talk because from where we met years ago to where you're at now, I'm really interested in what that journey looks like. Cause the stuff you're doing is very, very high quality. So I think it might've been related to Ceyla maybe. yeah, yeah, that was really, really, really back. That was like,

Ehmandah Ramsey (00:44.784)
Yeah, for sure.

Ehmandah Ramsey (00:52.772)
Yes, yes, yes. Disciples of the Most High and...

Rob Pene (01:01.206)
like early foundation man in Los Angeles. Amanda is a influencer in the Christian Los Angeles kind of market for entertainment and all things social. Definitely she's got her finger on the pulse of what people are doing. And she puts out some really high quality stuff. So what we met from through

Ehmandah Ramsey (01:05.145)
Yeah, the fishermen. Yeah.

Rob Pene (01:29.538)
the Disciples of the Most High, which was a Christian hip hop group. And boy, it's... And Selaz moved, right? Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (01:37.124)
Yeah, he moved, yeah. I still have contact with him, that's crazy.

Rob Pene (01:41.388)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm definitely going to try to get him on because he's got a really interesting spin on things and how they did the business and are doing really well with the Airbnb. So what are you doing nowadays, man?

Ehmandah Ramsey (01:47.27)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (01:56.07)
Man, you know, I still do a little bit of music. I'm a director of worship at a local church in the IE. So singing, not professionally, not as an artist, but you know, wherever I have the opportunity to give in service, either funerals or memorials, and then of course, you know, serving God with my music at church. So that's what I'm doing musically. So I still have a pulse on my creative self, but.

If I had to look overall of what I do is like, I am a curator, I believe a curator of transformational events and spaces for women, women's empowerment, women healing, women telling their stories, women finding who they are and sharing their gift with the world.

Rob Pene (02:38.67)
Rob Pene (02:47.768)
That's good, that's good, because it seems like there's a lot of women who outwardly look like on Instagram and social, they've got everything buttoned up and together when in reality after, eventually something comes out on their stories and like, you know, yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (03:10.298)
Like what happened? You know, it's like, it's like, you know, when you were a kid and you had a soda can and your mom or your dad would tell you, don't you shake that soda can, right? And I believe that's how it is. At least I can say this for women is that we experienced different things in life and on the outside it looks really great. And we just keep getting shaken up, shaken up and never taking the time to go through our healing process or to speak our story or to just release and let things go. And then once you snap that, you know, the lid on the can,

Rob Pene (03:19.798)
Hmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (03:40.42)
then pshhh. And like I said, just that's how we just see the explosiveness of someone, you know, having burnout or breaking down. It's just, they reach the tipping point.

Rob Pene (03:52.023)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So your audience, the people that you help are the ones that are boiling inside secretly, but then you come alongside them and help them kind of work through all those things so they don't blow up and don't like just crash and burn.

Ehmandah Ramsey (04:04.774)
Yeah, you know, I've had this beautiful journey of how I've seen how my life has progressed. And God using me in different spaces. And I think one of the earlier memories that I have is I used to work at a residential treatment facility, right? And I was hired on as a chaplain. So I was the spiritual care provider for the campus, for the direct care staff, for the boys, and then also for the executive team. And here I am.

Rob Pene (04:26.414)
you.

Ehmandah Ramsey (04:34.694)
brought in as therapeutic intervention, not knowing that that was the beginning of me doing what I'm doing now, which is really holding space for people, listening to them, and then helping them to see where they want to go, what path they want to pursue. And like you said, it'd be that preventative care. You don't have to blow up like I did, or you don't have to reach your tipping point like I did. Here's another way. Yeah.

Rob Pene (04:42.734)
Mmm.

Rob Pene (04:57.526)
Hmm.

Rob Pene (05:03.406)
Wow. And how do you know who...

Because on social or whatever, when they're posting, they're posting one thing when reality is different, right? How do you see through that, I guess, that image to where you can understand what's really happening behind the scenes without like, you know, obviously digging, because I assume some people might be hitting you up, asking general questions, but really they're really trying to come through and ask for help, but they don't outrightly come and say it, you know, because maybe fear and embarrassment.

Ehmandah Ramsey (05:38.672)
Yeah, exactly. I think I have this beautiful gift of when people see me, they just open up. And that could be anywhere, men, women, whoever. It doesn't necessarily have to be on social media. But I just think that I create this space for people to feel like they're welcome to share. And so I think after a few moments in my conversation,

Rob Pene (05:45.612)
you

Ehmandah Ramsey (06:08.814)
I'll be like, okay, well, you know, what's going on with you? You know, how are you really in that kind of relationship, right? my God, thank you so much. Someone's actually listening to me.

Rob Pene (06:12.054)
Hmm. And then they start crying.

Yeah

Ehmandah Ramsey (06:23.782)
Yeah, because we all need that right Rob? mean, geez, we do because we often, you know, walk around with masks and people say how we're doing like, oh, yeah, I'm fine. I'm doing good. But on the inside, we're like dying and screaming and somebody please like give me a hand up rescue me. Hold my hand. Wipe my tears something. Yeah.

Rob Pene (06:24.11)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (06:41.614)
I

Yeah. So for people, so I try to, for my kids, try to before school is tell them, hey, you know, at lunch, when you see somebody sitting by themselves, either invite them to sit with you or just go sit with them and have lunch. You know, that's an easy spot. You can spot them really easy. They're sitting by themselves. Online is different. So are there any specific questions that people can ask that would...

make them feel comfortable to know, okay, this is a safe space for me because she asked the right questions. Or is it more just calling it out and being serious and firm like, hey, what's going on? know, or.

Ehmandah Ramsey (07:20.046)
Mmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (07:29.542)
I think it's more serious and firm. think with the content that I've been putting out over the last couple of years, I personally want to be very transparent. And even in the spaces that I curate, I'm very transparent about what I'm going through. I have this level of vulnerability to make sure people know that we have some commonality. Like I know that, you my hair looks great and I've makeup on and you know, I look cute or whatever. But there are moments when I...

Rob Pene (07:49.39)
I'm a horseman.

Ehmandah Ramsey (07:58.64)
deal with self doubt, right? I deal with imposter syndrome. You're not alone, especially if it's something that you just recently come out of, like if you had failure or something like that in a business or in a project or even in a relationship, sometimes you deal with self doubt and imposter syndrome. And it's just real. And I think a lot of times people don't talk about that stuff. A lot of times people don't talk about the messy middle, right? We get the beginning of it.

Rob Pene (08:27.042)
Hmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (08:27.874)
of the situation and then we get the rainbow, right? We get the gold at the end. But dawg on it, what happened in the middle? Because that's where I'm at. I wanna know how can I get to the gold?

Rob Pene (08:34.679)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're saying it's not the questions you ask in the moment, it's more the questions and the content you ask leading up to it, right? So what you put out, if you share your vulnerability, that's what's going to bring people to relate to you kind of.

Ehmandah Ramsey (08:39.662)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (08:44.123)
Mm-hmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (08:47.942)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (08:55.034)
Yes, and just making yourself available, right? We need to be active listeners, right? Most times we're like double-dutch, like somebody's talking and we're just waiting to give them an answer or waiting to give them advice. But how about if you just pause and be an active listener and hear what someone is saying? And when you feel led, not because you just want to give them an answer, but when you feel led or the space opens up in that person's heart to receive, then...

Rob Pene (08:59.246)
yeah.

Hmm

Rob Pene (09:14.167)
Hmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (09:24.708)
You give those words.

Rob Pene (09:27.544)
Can everybody do this? Because it sounds like we all need it. But is this skill set something that everyone can learn and develop in?

Ehmandah Ramsey (09:31.462)
You

Ehmandah Ramsey (09:37.958)
I believe we all can learn to be an active listener and not be so quick to give advice.

Rob Pene (09:42.072)
Mm-mm-mm.

Rob Pene (09:46.894)
because it seems like a lot of people are natural to do that. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (09:49.51)
Well, I know what you need to do. You need to do that. I just wanted to share how I was feeling

Rob Pene (09:58.638)
Mmm, boy. That's probably one of the hardest things to do is to not want to help and just like, listen.

Ehmandah Ramsey (10:10.662)
It really is, know what Rob, and I learned this lesson from my daughter. I have a really great relationship with my daughter. I was a single mom. We've been through a lot of trauma, me specifically with domestic violence and her seeing some things when she was younger. So we've had a healing relationship along the way. But I often would have conversations with her. She's an adult and she'll call me and talk to me about things. you know, in times past, I would be quick to give the advice.

She'd be like, well, mom, da da da da da da da. And like, ba ba ba ba. She's like, mom, I'm not asking for your advice. I just want to vent. I just want to share how I feel. That's it. And I'm like, okay, I need to really work on being an active listener and just be there.

Rob Pene (10:38.85)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (10:56.374)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that requires a lot of self-awareness. Self-control, yeah, okay, that's good. I got a question on that. How would you encourage people to build their muscle for self-control? Because self-awareness and self-control is probably the hardest things to master, you know, naturally or a certain way. Do you have any suggestions on self-control?

Ehmandah Ramsey (11:00.408)
and self-control.

Ehmandah Ramsey (11:17.571)
Bye.

Ehmandah Ramsey (11:24.806)
Well, first you have to be self-aware, right? You really have to do an assessment. And specifically, we're talking about holding space for people and being there for people. You gotta do an assessment. Okay, last conversation I had with my daughter, you know, she's already expressed to me how she feels when she just wants to vent. Was I present in that last conversation? I'll ask her, how am I doing? Was I present? Was I there? Then she'll give me the feedback. I'm like, okay, you know what, next time, you know, I'm gonna try to do better.

Rob Pene (11:27.31)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (11:47.212)
Mmm. Okay.

Ehmandah Ramsey (11:54.626)
and just listen and you know when you want me to share my opinion then let me know. I said but I'm your mom so I'm always gonna be your mom you know what I'm saying so I'm gonna share. So I would say do a self-assessment first. See where you are in your relationships and how you communicate with people and then secondly from there I think it's important for us to learn how people communicate right. You think about love languages how people

Rob Pene (12:13.369)
no.

Ehmandah Ramsey (12:22.352)
you know, our gift givers or people quality time. I believe it's the same way in friendships that we have to know our people, right? You gotta know your person. Okay, let me dial it back a little bit and have some self control because if I say something, then they're gonna respond maybe in a negative way. So let me pull back because I'm knowing who I'm talking to. I'm paying attention to what they're saying. So then I know how to move forward in this conversation.

Rob Pene (12:32.237)
Hmm?

Rob Pene (12:53.102)
Boy, that seems like a lot of work.

Ehmandah Ramsey (12:55.456)
It is, but guess what? You can do it. Especially if you want to have a healthy relationship with someone.

Rob Pene (12:59.832)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (13:05.942)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

Ehmandah Ramsey (13:06.822)
Think about your kids, right? Like how many kids do you have? Four, they all have different personalities, right? You cannot talk to the same kid. You can't talk to this kid like you can talk to the other one. One of them might crush if you say things a certain way, right? Cause you know your children. And how do you know your kids? Because you spend time with them? You watch them? Yes, yes.

Rob Pene (13:11.726)
for.

Rob Pene (13:15.287)
Yes.

Rob Pene (13:22.958)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (13:32.566)
Yeah, reflect, study. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (13:36.592)
Same thing with people.

Rob Pene (13:38.426)
man, with people. It's like everyone I meet, need to run this assessment in my brain, this quick assessment.

Ehmandah Ramsey (13:45.88)
Yeah. And I think when you work in a, in a manager's managerial position, or if you're in C-suite and you work with a lot of people, you're dealing with a lot of personalities, you really have to take a step back and learn your people. Okay. I need to approach Sarah like this, and I need to approach Sam this way. We just really have to learn that. Especially in service work.

Rob Pene (13:53.195)
Now

Rob Pene (14:12.641)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. absolutely. Service. You did you have a podcast or you still have it?

Ehmandah Ramsey (14:17.862)
Mm-hmm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (14:25.686)
I had a podcast, it was called Dope Confidence. Yeah, where I talk to entrepreneurs really about building their self-belief and their self-confidence. Because I think it's important as entrepreneurs, know, look like we got it all together. the times were like, I don't know if I'm gonna make it. I don't know if this is gonna work.

Rob Pene (14:27.352)
That was a good one.

Rob Pene (14:43.182)
Thanks

Rob Pene (14:50.348)
Yeah, yeah. my goodness. What projects are you excited about that you're working on right now?

Ehmandah Ramsey (14:57.95)
Wow. You know, I'm excited about this new chapter in my personal brand where I'm not only holding space for women, but really teaching them to it's OK for you to be ambitious, but also for you to rest or take care of yourself or prioritize your well-being. I think because we're in a hustle culture, be it in building a career or business.

Rob Pene (15:23.341)
Yes.

Ehmandah Ramsey (15:26.734)
We are told, you know, I'll sleep when I die.

Rob Pene (15:30.114)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (15:33.252)
You need to take care of yourself. You need to make sure that you are taking care of your wellbeing, not only for you, but also for your family so that you can live this life that you worked so hard for and not just make the money, but just actually live it.

Rob Pene (15:49.442)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. How long did it take for you to get to the realization like, okay, this is the lane I want to take with people and encouraging them and holding space for them.

Ehmandah Ramsey (15:59.822)
Hmm, I think it just came naturally. I'm a pastor's kid.

Rob Pene (16:04.576)
Mmm, whoa!

Ehmandah Ramsey (16:07.47)
I'm a PK, you know what I'm saying? And I think, you know, that's just a part of my calling was to hold space for people and still is. It just sometimes, I think it shifts, you know, sometimes it shifts. So, okay, let me talk to just, you know, the everyday woman or let me talk to entrepreneurs or business people. So it shifts, but it all still is the same thing, holding space for people.

Rob Pene (16:17.826)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (16:36.662)
Yeah, okay, PK, that's really interesting. It seems like a lot of PKs have a hard time because they get attacked a little more directly. Now, is that true or is that just...

Ehmandah Ramsey (16:39.354)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (16:50.97)
They do. They do. I think PKs get a bad rap sometimes. Sometimes they think we're the bad kids or the kids out there in them streets doing some things. Or sometimes we're held to a higher standard and people forget that we're human like everyone else. So I think it's a challenge to be a PK. People haven't talked about that and I think that's a conversation that needs to be had as well.

Rob Pene (16:52.383)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (17:21.132)
Yeah, I wonder if... I'm sure there is some kind of group, like Facebook group or school group for just PK. Yeah, there has to be. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And I imagine there's a lot of really successful people, but they've come through the journey, you know? Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (17:26.424)
Has to be. If not, I'ma start it, okay?

Ehmandah Ramsey (17:37.926)
Yeah, I mean and just think about it like when you're a PK Like I said, you're held to a higher standard and people will see you They'll say things about you or say things about your parents And then you are put in this situation where you can't respond because if you respond in anger Then you're looked at in a bad way. It's just crazy

Rob Pene (18:03.606)
Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, that's a lot of expectations. Yeah. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (18:08.952)
Yes, pressure. It's a lot of pressure and expectations. Unrealistic expectations, right?

Rob Pene (18:15.552)
Yeah, yeah, unfairly placed on you guys.

Ehmandah Ramsey (18:19.204)
Yes, yes. What we learn and navigate, a lot of us do.

Rob Pene (18:21.142)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (18:24.61)
Yeah, yeah. Do you have any opinion on the current state of Christian music and gospel music? I know there's stuff floating around about Maverick City and then there's the Miles Minnick movement. So there's great stuff that's happening. Do you have a favorite or a take on where the landscape is?

Ehmandah Ramsey (18:48.854)
I don't have a take. I just had this conversation with a musician over the weekend about what's their take. You you've been in the music industry before. It's very interesting. It's changed over the years, right? Since we've been in it, it's very commercialized. Of course it is. And I really don't have an opinion right now on it. I'm still...

Rob Pene (18:58.798)
Mm.

Ehmandah Ramsey (19:15.942)
trying to navigate to see where the music industry is for Christian artists, for gospel artists. Yeah.

Rob Pene (19:18.935)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (19:22.774)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's some really good young artists that are breaking the mold, kind of, yeah, crashing into the mainstream opportunities. that's, I'm excited about, what is it? John, I forgot his name. It's the guy that runs with Miles Minick. Yeah, those guys. then social media, social media and Christianity. And there's a lot of young people that are

Ehmandah Ramsey (19:28.836)
yeah.

Rob Pene (19:50.494)
reading the Bible literally on social, everything, it's incredible. On the flip side, the young kids are also seeing a lot of the ones that are depressed and they're chronicling their anxiety, so the kids get both sides. For the child that, or maybe even the woman that's on social that gets influenced can sway either way.

Ehmandah Ramsey (20:09.189)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (20:18.542)
What would be your encouragement to that type of viewer?

Ehmandah Ramsey (20:24.154)
You know, social media is great, right? And it could also be not so great. And I think sometimes we get caught up in listening to so many different people. And I think when you are watching, first of all, let's say this, if we're talking about God, we're talking about church and Christianity, find yourself a home church, number one, period.

Rob Pene (20:26.542)
Hey.

Rob Pene (20:49.454)
Mmm, that's good. Okay.

Ehmandah Ramsey (20:52.39)
Start there, right? You've gotta have a home church. You have to have somebody that is pouring into you spiritually on a weekly basis, someone that is accessible to you when you have questions about your faith, your walk, or when you waver in your faith. You need somebody that is close to you that can share with you. Now, that's number one. I think if you have that foundation, you know, you got Christ and then you have that foundation of a home church, you're at a great start.

Rob Pene (21:12.942)
Man.

Ehmandah Ramsey (21:21.606)
Two, if you're going to look at social media, you have to find someone that's in line biblically with the word of God. Right? And if you're new in the faith, that's why that home church is so important. Because I think a lot of times when we see people on social media, when it comes down to like new ministers or Christians or whoever, know, everybody has their own opinions.

Sometimes Christianity is mixed with so many different other things that some of these younger people may say, okay, I'm gonna go use this device or go here and go that and just mix all these different things when you should be solid on Jesus, not those other things, right? So we're influenced by those other people. So find a person that's in alignment with the word of God.

Rob Pene (22:08.206)
Please.

Rob Pene (22:19.074)
Yeah, that's cool.

Ehmandah Ramsey (22:19.128)
and let that person be your person and silence all the noise of all these other people by the person. Yeah.

Rob Pene (22:28.994)
Hmm. Yeah, I heard someone say that if you're listening to preachers on a podcast on a weekly basis, good for you, but you don't have a pastor.

Ehmandah Ramsey (22:41.442)
No you don't.

He don't, he really don't. Like he, that guy doesn't know you, right? If something happens, you call him, he's not gonna respond to you. First of you don't have his number. Maybe you can call him on Instagram or TikTok or something like that, but he's not gonna reach out. He's not gonna be there for you. He doesn't even know you. It's not your pastor.

Rob Pene (22:50.626)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (22:56.842)
Yes.

Rob Pene (23:08.01)
No internet.

Ehmandah Ramsey (23:08.026)
Get one.

Rob Pene (23:11.542)
Okay, we should be backing out. Okay, we should be back here. Okay, good. I think we're back.

Ehmandah Ramsey (23:17.606)
Yeah, we're back. You're starting to come in a little clearer.

Rob Pene (23:18.86)
Yeah, yeah, much better. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty insightful saying. But you're right, if you can't pick up the phone and call the pastor or a pastor at your church, that's a problem. Yeah, and that's the temptation now, right, is, can listen to the sermon, you know, and I can stay home and chat. I live chat, you know, in the YouTube stream. I ask for prayer.

Ehmandah Ramsey (23:33.222)
It is.

Rob Pene (23:47.7)
No, it's different. Yeah, it's

Ehmandah Ramsey (23:49.712)
Yeah, and A, nothing's wrong with bedside Baptist. That's what I call it.

Rob Pene (23:54.53)
Ha ha ha ha, yes.

Ehmandah Ramsey (23:56.23)
There's nothing wrong with bedside Baptist, honestly, but whatever church that you are watching online every week, still try to connect with a small group or a life group so you can create community. know, the Bible talks about, you know, don't forget to assemble yourselves with one another. Assembling yourselves is huge in your walk with God. Like you really need a community of people and not do this thing alone. If not, you are setting yourself up for some trouble.

Rob Pene (24:05.187)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (24:26.016)
Yes! Yes!

Ehmandah Ramsey (24:27.938)
if you try to do it yourself.

Rob Pene (24:30.986)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. that's again, it's a huge temptation in today's era is the solo Christianity. I know theology, but that's just half of the truth of the gospel, right? It's community because when Jesus left, he said, girl, the church, build disciples, you know, which assumes that we live with people. Yeah. So, yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (24:55.972)
Yeah, had people.

Rob Pene (25:00.652)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It sounds like what you're doing is helping to build leaders and women in the church. Well, obviously everywhere. But I think it's definitely got a place in the church for sure, because there's women's ministry, you know, all that stuff. That's good. Yeah. I appreciate your heart and I appreciate your time. It sounds like you definitely have got some depth in your experience.

Ehmandah Ramsey (25:12.281)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (25:17.03)
Not for sure.

Ehmandah Ramsey (25:21.402)
Yeah. Yeah.

Rob Pene (25:30.51)
and what you bring to the table for the people that you talk to.

Ehmandah Ramsey (25:34.426)
Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah.

Rob Pene (25:37.676)
Yeah, that's huge. Good for you. Good for you. I know a lot of women are looking to feel heard without saying, you know, I need help.

Ehmandah Ramsey (25:50.213)
Right.

Rob Pene (25:51.374)
Yeah, so people like you can come in. That's the miracle. know, like they don't ask for help, but all of a sudden you're in front of them. You say something they relate to and that literally becomes the miracle. So keep up the good work. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (26:05.274)
Yeah, hey, like I always say, I'm here for you. Just reach out to me.

Rob Pene (26:09.07)
Now, are you writing a book or going to record like do a documentary or something? Because it sounds pretty exciting, man. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (26:19.514)
Yeah, I am working on a book right now. I hope to have it released, you know, in the next six months, but I definitely will keep you posted for sure. Yeah.

Rob Pene (26:28.962)
Wow, okay, six months. good, good, good. Yeah, you could probably do it sooner.

Ehmandah Ramsey (26:34.022)
Well, maybe I'll do a series of books. You know, I've got to share parts of my life that I think will definitely, you know, empower people, empower women. Yeah.

Rob Pene (26:38.85)
Yeah.

Rob Pene (26:46.518)
Yeah, that's huge. Well, good. Good, good. Yeah, I'll make sure to keep that in prayer because a is huge, especially for women in that particular niche. Man, yeah, they need to be connected. Yeah, at least feel seen. Yeah. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (26:56.218)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (27:04.214)
Mm-hmm and heard. mean that's I do what I do that's why I curate these spaces because you need to be seen and heard I think when you share your story, that's like a healing It's part of your healing is the moment you start sharing your story, you know, we grew up in church testimony You overcome you start to begin your feeling process the moment you release it and let it

Rob Pene (27:19.95)
Mmm.

Rob Pene (27:27.374)
Mmm.

Rob Pene (27:32.59)
Mmm. That's good. That's good. So are you going to start a new podcast and have people share their stories?

Ehmandah Ramsey (27:36.922)
Yeah.

Right? Listen, now the conversation that we had before that I'm thinking like, yeah, I probably might get back on that as far as storytelling. Yeah, with women.

Rob Pene (27:47.573)
Yeah

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could grow because it's so niche and it's like the community, I'm sure there's so many people that'll flock to it.

Ehmandah Ramsey (28:01.03)
Yeah, is, yeah. I think I'm definitely gonna take that, use that. I'm gonna do that with TikTok. Y'all out there listening, if you are women and you wanna share your story about what you've gone through, I have a platform for you and there's so many people that are waiting to hear your story. Because your story can change somebody's future.

Rob Pene (28:15.405)
Mmm.

Rob Pene (28:22.358)
Amen.

Rob Pene (28:26.88)
Yeah, isn't that something? It's like you never know, but it actually could. Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (28:28.453)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Rob Pene (28:33.846)
Yeah. So where could they find you?

Ehmandah Ramsey (28:37.402)
Well, y'all can find me on all socials, Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok, Facebook. You can look for me there, Amanda Ramsey, and follow me and let's connect.

Rob Pene (28:50.252)
Yeah, E-H-M-A-N-D-A-H, Amanda Ramsey on all socials. And hit her up, man. Hit her up, especially if you need to talk. And especially if you think you're good, but you know you're dying inside secretly. No need to feel bad. Amanda's here. Yeah. Yes. And then you'll get on the podcast.

Ehmandah Ramsey (28:56.038)
Yeah.

Ehmandah Ramsey (29:09.294)
I'm him. I'm your girl.

Yes.

Rob Pene (29:18.616)
Cool. All right. Good to see you. Thank you.

Ehmandah Ramsey (29:20.838)
All right, good to see you. Thank you.