Running on Coffee and Christ

Episode 7 Running, Coffee, and Christ: The Lighthearted Side of Inspiration

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Join us for an enlightening and heartwarming episode of Running on Coffee and Christ, where we dive deep into the things that spark our inspirations. From cherished memories associated with our favorite coffee mugs to the enduring influence of icons like Dolly Parton, we explore how everyday objects and stories connect us to a broader narrative of joy, creativity, and purpose. 

In this episode, we reflect on powerful movies and timeless songs that uplift our spirits, alongside the meaningful moments we witness in our running community. We share how these experiences illuminate the path to persistence, resilience, and inspiration. Moreover, we delve into the ultimate inspiration—faith—offering perspectives on how our beliefs shape our lives and navigate us through challenges. 

Whether you’re on a journey of personal growth or seeking motivation, we hope to encourage you to recognize the small and significant sources of inspiration in your life. Listen in and let’s celebrate the stories and moments that inspire us all. Don’t forget to engage with us by sharing what inspires you! Subscribe, share, and leave a review to keep the conversation going.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back everyone. This is episode number seven on Running on Coffee and Christ podcast.

Speaker 2:

Hey, welcome. It's episode seven.

Speaker 1:

Looking forward to this conversation today. We've got some inspiration going on between us, we've been having a good day. Today, got a lot of work done.

Speaker 2:

We did get a lot of work done. It's actually storming right now.

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh. You might hear that in the background.

Speaker 2:

It sounds a little ferocious, and I just got a notification that we're under a thunderstorm warning, so I hope we don't lose power in this so if we do, we'll just have to edit this and yeah, or just record in the dark. Either way, we can't um so I'm excited to talk about what inspires us. We kind of just wanted to do a lighthearted episode, yeah for sure. And talk about things that we love and hopefully that you guys do too, and it endears us to one another, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we've talked a little bit about our stories from different situations and occasions and, you know, just talking about what inspires us, it naturally brought up a lot of memories of our, our history. You know, history together, history before each other, and just the things that we carry with us in life and the people we've come across and the situations, and it's just really interesting. I just want to see how it goes, you know, see how it develops.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's let's talk about what uh coffee cups um we use I can't skip past that if you notice, um and I know these are not up on YouTube yet, but they eventually are going to be up on YouTube and you can see my mug, but you can't see it right now, but I'm actually using one of the first mugs that we probably got when we started collecting mugs.

Speaker 1:

Probably there was these ones and some skinnier ones also that were similar.

Speaker 2:

And it's a Starbucks mug and you may think what.

Speaker 1:

You are drinking out of a Starbucks mug.

Speaker 2:

You own a coffee shop? Yes, I am, because it inspired us yeah, 100 percent um, there was a time where we loved it, yeah, and you have to remember there was a time where that really was all there was, too, you might have a few mom and pops, but Starbucks kind of set the precedence for an overpriced cup of coffee, I mean well, when you get like, when you get the time and the labor that goes into something to be to be made, and they streamlined it, they really streamlined, they really did those processes and just so you know, guys, the profit margin on coffee is very low yeah

Speaker 1:

support your coffee shops go local if you can really need.

Speaker 2:

They need volume, we need volume, and I'm not just speaking for us, this is across the board. That's why you see so many coffee shops shut their doors, because you really need a lot of volume.

Speaker 1:

A lot of foot traffic, a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

To make a profit and consistent, you have to make a profit when you have a business or it's not going to work.

Speaker 1:

And most Starbucks and a lot of the larger corporations that are in coffee. They cater towards interstate large cities drive-thrus things like that that they know they're going to have a high turnover, quick rip. And they lose a lot of the personality when it comes to the coffee culture.

Speaker 1:

The coffee culture is so thick, you know, when it comes to small shops and when it comes to the coffee communities visiting other cities and stuff like that, it's really thick. You can basically go and relate to someone anywhere in any city. You know in that environment that you feel comfortable in, so you know, but, but, but Starbucks did inspire us, you know. So that's the reason why you have that cup and I got my cup today. It's actually, um, this was a topic that came up just recently. Um, that really made me think about all the things that she has done. Um, but this is a cup that we got when we were on vacation in Gatlinburg and we were at the Dixie Stampede. Um, now that's Dolly Parton's venture there in Gatlinburg or Pigeon Forge right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, in Pigeon Forge, but her husband just recently passed away and it got me thinking about how much she has done for other people, but how much has he done for her in their relationship.

Speaker 1:

Because they were married for a long time, right Over 60 years, I believe, and that's almost unheard of nowadays that marriages last that long, much less. I mean we marriages last that long, much less. I mean we've been married for 20 years and plus, and that's, you know. That's, that's still already we're. You know we're already striking out there on some rare ground. You know um, in my opinion, from what I understand, but you know um, dolly parton's been an inspiration to a lot of people.

Speaker 2:

I mean, our daughter's birthday party was dolly parton you know dolly parton cake and balloons and plates and everything, yeah, and we really don't just listen to Dolly. We don't Every now and then, but her influence is far-reaching and she has the it's Read Across America Week this week too, and she has the Imagination Library where you can sign up for your child to receive I think it's a book a month, don't want my words on that, but I think it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a book a month for all elementary age, kindergarten to sixth grade or something like that. They get a book a month and that's, and it's all, non-profit very inspiring and you know that she was inspired by lack of education.

Speaker 2:

You know, growing up. She grew up very poor and things like that. So you know, I think she's just always wanted to give opportunities to people. I feel like that's something that we've always felt led on is offering opportunities, and so that's why I feel like we wear a lot of hats.

Speaker 2:

Like we're doing this and we're doing that, we're doing this and we're doing that, but it's like I just see need and I see opportunity and anytime that I can. It really isn't about me. It's not that I want you to pay attention to me or pay attention to Calvin, it's just, you know, it's another touch point of how we can relate to one another and help one another, and we need each other yeah, and sometimes it makes it hard to say no when you have that when you have that desire, yeah, but okay, so, um, we would love to hear you know, like obviously with this conversation, what things inspire y'all.

Speaker 1:

I'm really not sure how the comments work on podcast reviews and things like we have gotten some. I don't I don't know if there's any, can you?

Speaker 2:

but I didn't know that we had gotten any, because it does, it doesn't notify me but we could just be ignorant, because we a lot of hey I just want you guys to know. We don't know what we're doing we're just trying to wing it and figure out on the way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah and, and and, like a lot of the platforms like we're on I think like eight or nine different podcast hosting platforms. I thought we were like five, so see no, there's a lot of them, but I don't know how they all work either and how to get reviews from them and comments, so, like y'all, leave a comment if you can, please leave a review um we would like this out you know, do we sound good? Do you like what we're talking about?

Speaker 2:

and we have this inspiration, receive some valuable input. You know where people are, like, I couldn't hear calvin blah blah blah and that was on that episode that we did with caleb our first interview episode yes, and we knew it was going to be that way we.

Speaker 1:

We were worried about it, but we didn't realize the best. Yeah, we didn't realize how important mic'd everyone is versus.

Speaker 2:

You know someone sharing a mic it'll be one of those episodes that we'll cringe at one day.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's okay yeah, it might be like our example of worst episode ever just because caleb was on it.

Speaker 2:

I'm kidding caleb, I'm kidding okay uh, but today we're going to talk about what has inspired us in a, in a fun, loving way, not of, not a digging deep of oh my goodness like what inspired you to start this business.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to run a marathon now that I saw them run a 100-meter dash, so it's not going to be that deep.

Speaker 2:

This is just going to be fun Things that I guess our personalities tend to lean towards. We've got different topics like movies, music, activities, people. Of course, god is our ultimate, ultimate inspiration, for sure and we will definitely not be leaving him out because he's at the top of the top 100.

Speaker 1:

Well now, uh, when it comes to like worldly inspiration like there's a lot of like feel-good movies and feel good things out there they're like like they inspire you with either people's stories or situations now, um, caleb was just on here last episode, or two episodes ago and and we had.

Speaker 1:

We talked a lot, but we had failed to do this in our latter years, our middle age years. But for a while there, almost every year, we got together. Uh, it was a little stint and we would have a braveheart day like where we got together and we watched and it was on a VHS then too, so you had to take one out and put the other one in halfway through it.

Speaker 2:

We actually went and saw that in the theaters.

Speaker 1:

Oh really.

Speaker 2:

I actually think about that now as a child. Yeah, pretty gruesome, it was heavy, but I don't even remember thinking that then I was just like I had never even heard the story of William Wallace or anything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but so we do have Scottish heritage in our family, and just the story of William Wallace and the battle for freedom that rings true for every American the thought of freedom and the battle of freedom and fighting for what you believe in. And then seeing it portrayed the way that Mel Gibson did through the William Wallace story, it really inspired me as a kid to want to do something that was above myself, greater than myself.

Speaker 2:

Do you think you also felt and I could be projecting? I hope I'm not. Do you feel like that movie really resonated with you because it showed you what a real man was?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was drawn to Because I know that you came from practically a fatherless home.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, that's just In all aspects.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my male influence was there's an inspiration there later on that? I want to talk about male influence, but my male influence growing up was really external, from the home. There was only a few touch points that my biological father actually had in my life and you know those moments I can remember.

Speaker 1:

I'm kind of I'm thankful they were good yeah, um, but I I look at like a lot of the movies that I lean towards, like over the top, rocky, um and then um, you know, like braveheart and karate kid with mr miyagi, like there was a male role model and inspiration to that to help inspire you to think. I want our son to think higher than himself, to be selfless in his actions and to inspire other people to greatness, and we've seen some really good aspects coming out in him throughout the years of leadership and things like that. But like in Over the Top, that was Rocky Balboa.

Speaker 2:

I don't even think I know that movie, not Rocky Balboa.

Speaker 1:

Sylvester Stallone.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

You've never heard of it. I've never even heard of Over the Top, because I talked about it before, but Over the Top it's like Sylvester Stallone, he's like a trucker right.

Speaker 1:

And he goes through this um difficult situation like with leaving his uh wife and and estranged kid right okay so he winds up getting back in contact with him and um is trying to build a relationship with his son but he's a trucker, so he's on the road a whole lot. Well, his mom basically drops the kid, drops the kid's mom, drops him off and says you're going with him on the road from here to here, basically trying to force him to have a relationship, and they're both kind of like what do we really do? You know, well, uh, sylvester sloan is a arm wrestling champion. Like he's practicing to do arm wrestling, it's like oh, bring the arm over the top.

Speaker 1:

Like you know, okay, yeah and uh, so he starts messing with his, you know, training his son and inspiring him, you know, in that way, and they started building this relationship and they go through some some difficult situations on the road, you know, like dangerous things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Um, but ultimately it's like he wanted to do something. He needed to do something to prove that he was worthy of having his son in his life, something greater than himself and I'm sorry if I get emotional but something greater than himself. And and we, I get emotional but something greater than himself.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, and we as, as fathers, you know, we have rare opportunities to actually inspire our kids and then they're off in the world, you know, and um, and I just recently mentioned, you know, mentioned this to you about like wanting to do more things with jude because he is at that age where it's like I remember when I was, I remember when I was his age and I needed my dad, I needed a male role model, but those movies are all kind of that same way.

Speaker 2:

They do all kind of have the same theme. I feel like mine's a little bit more blah.

Speaker 1:

I say that what does blah mean? I mean just kind of like all over the place. Word vomit.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, but um word, vomit maybe. Um, I don't technically draw a lot of inspiration from those movies like what you were saying and and like what's resonating with you in those movies isn't necessarily resonating with me.

Speaker 2:

Not that I don't like it, I totally enjoy watching those movies, but I was always very inspired by all the old things and I don't, and I typically. I remember there was a time when I was like I kind of wish that I had been born in a different time because I feel like I was supposed to be yeah, yeah, no, you're not, you're supposed to be born like well, if you were born 40, 80 years ago.

Speaker 1:

But what I realized?

Speaker 2:

is, and you can attest to this when we watch movies, you're going to get emotional way before. I ever get emotional, 100%. We get emotional about things in a different way. So Just to be completely honest with you I hope I don't hurt anybody's feelings I cannot stand a single Hallmark movie. I cannot watch it.

Speaker 1:

The predictable plot.

Speaker 2:

To me it's not smart. It's not smart writing or anything like that. Is it meant to be?

Speaker 1:

smart or is it meant to be quick? Are they just trying to dump stuff out there?

Speaker 2:

That's just not entertaining to me, and I don't think that if it is entertaining to you that you're dumb or anything like that. It's just like it's not what stimulates me. I guess and I want more than I guess a love story. Yeah, you know, to me it just doesn't make sense that there's constantly these like 40-year-old people that are coming back to their high school sweetheart. That's just weird to me. Like that doesn't? I just don't think that's happening all the time.

Speaker 1:

No, we've watched a lot of like turner classic movies yes.

Speaker 2:

So I guess I should say hallmark movies do not inspire me but turner classic but old things do, and I think it's because I've just all I, while I don't get really mushy feelings about that kind of stuff, I I do have my heart on my sleeve, yes, in other ways, in other, in other, like, I feel such a connection to my past, like when I say past I'm talking about like my ancestors you know. So anything that like makes me think of them. It I could be bawling like a baby yeah um.

Speaker 2:

So one of the movies that has always been an inspiration to me, and a lot of people haven't seen this movie, but it's called light in the piazza and it has olivia de havelin in it and she's from gone with the wind. That's going to be one movie that everybody would know her from. She um plays the, the woman Melanie that gets with the, the man that Scarlett O'Hara really wanted to be with. But anyway, you love her character. But in this it's she's actually older in this movie and she has a daughter that has a disability. I just happened to come across this movie because I'm I'm one of those people too that's willing to watch something that, like, what is this?

Speaker 1:

yeah, the description sounds weird. Now we've struck out on some weird we have we really?

Speaker 2:

have, but this one was a win. And so the girl. She has some mental disabilities. I'm going to say nowadays because this movie was made like in the 60s, early 60s, I believe. I'm going to say nowadays because this movie was made in the 60s, early 60s. I believe I'm going to say she was on the spectrum somewhere.

Speaker 1:

Autistic, somewhat Maybe, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I'm definitely not a medical professional.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember this movie. You said we watched it together, but I don't remember. I don't remember it, see, because it didn't inspire you as much.

Speaker 2:

But I think what I really like about this movie is it actually is a love story and the mom is really having to let go of her daughter and I can't imagine being in that spot of you've gone from protecting this person that you love so much and then this man's falling in love with your daughter and you're you're questioning it because you're like, wait, she's different, you know, and it's like, I guess, seeing the mom expand her mind to see that there was more for her daughter yeah you know, and that this man was just what she needed, like he saw more in her than just her disability.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that that's the case with a lot of quote unquote disabilities nowadays is that people view them and they think that people are limited by their disability and not necessarily unlimited by their disability, because it's like they look at things differently. That doesn't mean that they don't look at things. You know they experience things differently. It doesn't mean that they don't look at things. You know they experience things differently. It doesn't mean they don't experience things.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

You know, life is way bigger than we give it credit for I think that we can just we can put things in a box. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like I mean, the mom could put her daughter in a box and be like this is how your life's going to be, this is how my life just going to be devoted to that daughter, and so when she actually—she actually marries the guy, and so I think about the pathways that this opened up for the mom, too, to have—.

Speaker 1:

Well, don't give away the ending to it.

Speaker 2:

I'm not, but I'm just saying it is so inspiring to me, like being able to see the more and. I've always wanted to see more, and I know you're thinking my gosh, you're watching a movie and you're reaching that deep. Yes, that's how I am, and so that's why, if there's nothing in the movie to reach for that's making me think for more, then I'm not interested in it. Another movie that I love, and it just makes me happy, is Singing in the Rain.

Speaker 1:

It makes our family happy.

Speaker 2:

There's so many hilarious moments in that movie.

Speaker 1:

Hilarious and thought-provoking too, about situations that we get ourselves in. I mean, it really is a funny movie.

Speaker 2:

It plays to the whole the Broadway side of me. If I had to choose, like, if you could be anything that you wanted to be, I would hands down say and I've always said this it would be a star on Broadway Because I love to sing, I love to sing loud and I love to dance and I just I love all that that it puts together.

Speaker 2:

So, uh, singing in the rain is just, it's huge to me. Um saw it as a kid. It's. It's never lost its luster to me whatsoever. I have felt so inspired by that movie, like when you see, when you see the, the, the purpose of the movie or the plot of it is they're going from the silent era into talking movies, yeah, silent film into talking film.

Speaker 2:

And the transition of that. And then I got one more I'm going to talk about, and that's not movies but it's TV, and that's Little House on the Prairie and if you've ever been to our shop you know that that's on our TV a lot.

Speaker 1:

Well, you've always said give me any life situation that you're dealing with, and there's a Little House on the Prairie episode for that.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and my brother-in-law, Mark. He thinks that that's hilarious, and so there's been times where he's just like spouted off a topic or whatever, and I can tell him the episode.

Speaker 1:

Like and.

Speaker 2:

I can tell them the episode, like I'm a Little House nerd, I know the names of the episodes, I can. I can tell you what season they're in, you know. Um, and that honestly goes back to also like I just remember watching that as a kid, like it just makes me feel young again, not that I'm wanting to feel young, but, um, I guess just that sense of wonder that you have as a kid, you know, and it's like it takes me back there. But Little House, I love seeing the family dynamic on that show. I love how community comes together. Even people that are hateful and mean and spiteful, they still rally together in those times of need.

Speaker 2:

And I guess, when I saw them, i'm'm like that's the kind of family I want. That's like I mean I had even talked about. I'm like calvin, I want us to live in the little house. House I want you know it was, it's just a room, like, basically, you know they they had the loft where the girls slept and then they had their bedroom, but everything's all connected and I'm like okay, all it is is just a modern day tiny house.

Speaker 1:

Everyone's pushing tiny houses right now because probably the only thing most people can afford, but but they're pushing tiny houses, but that's what it was. It was a tiny house where the family had to be okay, next to each other, you know, and around each other. And uh, but there was, like the other day, um, we were talking about something and, uh, we went our separate ways for the day to to do our running arounds and um, and I, literally I walked into the, the um, the shop, and there was on the hat on the tv was an episode of little house. That was like perfect for what we had just talked about and I took a picture of it and sent it to you.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, see, yeah, there's a little house, it really is, and, like you can, you can tell me anything like mark's been like uh, and I'm like I know a few episodes that deal with drugs, even set in the 1800s. It's post-Civil War, so what was that? I love the history that goes with it too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I can like sometimes I've been able to figure out real history moments because I'll be like okay, little House, this happened in that episode.

Speaker 1:

That was in 1930.

Speaker 2:

So like okay, little house, this happened in that episode.

Speaker 1:

That was in 1930. Yeah, so you get, you get smart by watching it too. But we always like, think about this, like the you know that you're in for little house, you know episode, when you hear the opening music coming on, you know we like like that music can play all the time, I don't care it. It's kind of like the late night Andy Griffith show you know, you hear them whistling the Andy Griffith theme. You know, and it's like you know, you're just in for a treat of just lightheartedness.

Speaker 2:

I think I'll, and I love the little house because it feels real to me. Once again I'm going back to the real um, like sitcoms and there have been sitcoms that I like because I do love to laugh, I love humor. I don't like when it gets nasty, like when people have to go with like vulgarities and things like that. I'm like that's just dumb too, that you can't be funny without going to some kind of sexual content or something like that.

Speaker 2:

But, so I do like some sitcoms too, if they're smart. You know like I always thought the office was cool, how it was, like you know the way it was filmed the way that it was portrayed was really cool you had to be careful with it too, though you do. But, um, you know, there's a lot of popular sitcoms and shows that I just I can't get into because I'm like this there's it's not real, that's not reality and I'm I'm bored a lot of the kids.

Speaker 1:

A lot of the kids shows shows nowadays are detached from reality. I think the way they portray parents and siblings and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so that's some of our, I guess, tv and movies that have inspired us, and maybe we're just on an entertainment theme right now thinking about this.

Speaker 1:

but people inspire us, but some of the music that's inspired us, music is a huge part of our life.

Speaker 2:

It's huge on both. You know, your family and my family yeah, I grew up singing, always having music in the house.

Speaker 1:

Um my grandparents, they always had music. There was like there was like the mood music at the grandparents house, like they set the mood for dinner by putting on the big vinyl console, you know, and having it just kind of echoing through the house, you know soft music or blues or jazz or they did a lot of big band music, things like that and um, and, and I just remember like I was just always fascinated about the, the feel of music, how it can change your environment and change your your emotion, your the way you feel about things you know, um, but we came across an artist a while, a good while back that really piqued our interest with it.

Speaker 1:

She's very unique and we fell in love with her, with her, um, her songs and her musicality and uh, but her name is regina specter, if you've never heard of her. She is russian um, so most of her performances are overseas, but her music is so unique.

Speaker 2:

I have to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, I guess I like that you have to really think about it.

Speaker 1:

It's deep and very poetic, but it's musically unique in how she's able to control her voice with the music.

Speaker 2:

And playing the piano.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and playing the piano. Yeah, and playing the piano, fantastic piano like she has.

Speaker 2:

She has these songs that uh like, for instance, there's one called firewood and she talks about how the piano is not firewood yet, and I remember the first time that I listened to that song, you know, was like hmm, that's an, that's an interesting thought, because it's really poetic in the way of you may think that you're washed up and done yeah but the piano is not firewood yet, because you can look at these old uprights. How many of you have seen these really old pianos?

Speaker 1:

oh, they're free on facebook all the time. That's a piece of junk. That's firewood, you know um but put it in the right hands.

Speaker 2:

Put it in the right hands and it's magic so she has songs like that and they have beautiful piano playing in them and things like that.

Speaker 1:

You know I think about, like when we're in gatlinburg and we go through kate's cove if you've ever been up there or you haven't uh, go if you get a chance. But kate's cove up in gatlinburg. They have some old churches there and one of them has an old piano. I think two of them, I think two of them might have there's some old churches.

Speaker 2:

No, it's just one, it's a honka-john.

Speaker 1:

And it really is a honka-john and probably only 40% of the keys actually make a noise and they're not tuned and I thought you know what it would.

Speaker 1:

really, I think it'd be worth to pay someone to go up there and work on that thing and get it to where, because you're getting that old environment and you walk in that old rackety, rickety church. It's just one open, you know opening, you know room and and it's just got this echo to it, you know, cause it's a hollow space and they got the piano there and it's I don't know. It's inspiring to think like it still has a little bit of life. It's like on its last leg.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But it does have life, it does Things like that are inspirational, and I think about the hands that have touched it or, you know, in the past, when it was beautiful At one point, the piano was beautiful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, at one point.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, those kinds of things. Another one of her lyrics that always gets me is she says I have a perfect body. And she says it like three times in a row and she does all these cool like riffs with her voice while she's saying I have a perfect body and then she ends it with because my eyelashes catch my sweat I know yeah they do yeah I love it, it's just one aspect that god has really blessed you with and say I got it.

Speaker 1:

I got it, it's all going on. God has blessed me with this item and it's just perfect. It's amazing, yeah, be appreciative, be thankful for all going on. God has blessed me with this item and it's just perfect. It's amazing. Be appreciative, be thankful for all the little things God has blessed you with. Don't look at what the world says. Yes, now our son. He's been playing the piano for a while now and he really inspires me also.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, every time he plays I can weep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think because he loves it so much and we've never had to say, Jude, go practice.

Speaker 1:

Today he locked himself or shut himself in the sunroom and turned a piano. I always have to get on to him because he turns it up way too loud, but it's like there's a reason. We got you an electric piano, son, turn it down. But he turns it way loud because he loves hearing it and he's just going through all his old pieces that he's learned and, uh, one of the pieces that I really was able to zone out on was a pascaglia, which is a performance that's based upon repetition, and it was uh, like I can't remember what it was d minor or something like that pascaglia. And I was like jude, if you learn this, just learn this for me.

Speaker 1:

You know well, he learned it for me, but it was one of those things that I would listen to in my headphones, like in the gym or running or something, just on repeat, because it was so soothing. It kind of reminds me of. There's a big piece that's like you see it all over on youtube and stuff like that. It's called a river, runs through. It's played a lot on the street corners and things like that.

Speaker 1:

It has that kind of feel to it yeah but it was just one of those things that it would be an emotional dump to me it's one of those songs, too, like you could walk down the aisle to it.

Speaker 2:

You could. It could be at a funeral, it could be at. I could see you like running to the finish line with this song. Yeah, it's very unique chariots of fire.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it like. Things like that I've always enjoyed, and one of the weirder things that I enjoy is foreign music.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes I don't even understand it. This is something that we don't have in common.

Speaker 1:

So we share music accounts. So sometimes when you're on random scroll the music that comes up when you're on random scroll, from what I've been searching for intentionally, what is he listening to? I'll listen to, like russian music and german, and but one of the ones that I mean it has had me literally in tears is spy. Look it up, y'all just listen to it and the main thing is lick. Look at the lyric translation. Go to google translate, type it in, find the translation, type it in on youtube and then read it while you're listening to it so you know what they're saying. Okay, that's what got me hooked on this song, but it's by. The couple is Jefferson and Sue Ellen. That's their names, and the name of the song is Profetiza, which is in Spanish. It's prophesy.

Speaker 1:

And it wasn't necessarily about prophesying about your future, but speaking over your present. And it talks about, like Elijah with, or Elisha when he's speaking over the dry bones if I speak over these dry bones, they will arise. It's not like I'm predicting it, I am calling it into existence. And at this time in our life we were, I was probably, I was probably really, I was still working in Huntsville and we were still trying to figure out what in the world we were going to do as far as, like, coffee shop business and and I was really looking for some inspiration in my life. And when this song hit, like it got me, like I'd put it on repeat on the treadmill and just just go, you know, like that's the only way I can run on treadmill half the time as well if I got music. But like, like I just remember getting so emotional, thinking about how we have the power to prophesy over our very own lives.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And speak God's actions into existence. You know, using that spirit that is inside of us to speak through us. Oh man, like do it? Look it up.

Speaker 2:

I'm inspired. Prophetisa, I'm listening to it. I don't mean that flippantly, no, I really am, but it's really cool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I really am, but it's really cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, obviously, praise and worship inspires me, but it's about it's to God and everything, so there's just too many. I don't get stuck on artists when it comes to Christian and worship music.

Speaker 1:

I don't have a huge need to go see artists at concerts or things like that. Now, artists that have stories that we've grown with, like Toby Mac, he inspires us.

Speaker 2:

Like we went the first time we saw him. I think Jude was really small like baby. And it was good, there was nothing, it was great. But we went and saw him a few weeks ago and it was completely different. Especially after he's lost his son.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

There was just such a humility there and it was just real. There wasn't all these lights and shiny things, it was just Raw I just felt like it was just him singing to God and it was.

Speaker 1:

And we got to experience it with him.

Speaker 2:

It was so moving in a great way um also. I mean, we did talk about dolly earlier. Fantastic songwriter like her reach across all genres of music um is to be applauded, you know I know 100 like didn't she write?

Speaker 1:

she wrote a, a rock album, and she collaborated with a lot of rock artists.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you've listened to the dolly rock album it's, it's.

Speaker 1:

She knocks it out of the park.

Speaker 2:

I mean she sings um with heart that's like you know, screechy women singing I love heart. By the way but um, she holds her own, obviously but she did that because she got a award inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame and she was like rock and roll hall of fame.

Speaker 1:

I don't sing rock and roll it it's because everybody wants Dolly a part of their group. Yeah, I know the in crowd.

Speaker 2:

I've always been inspired by any of the 60s and 70s music and, once again, the reason is is because it makes me feel a connection to my parents. Because that's what they listen to in their car, and I love big band because that makes me feel a connection to grandparents and great grandparents and things. So or that makes me feel a connection to grandparents and great-grandparents and things, or you know, old Johnny Cash songs. I've never been just this huge Johnny Cash fan where I'm just I know other people might be like what.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we hung on to those vinyls.

Speaker 2:

I don't think he's the most amazing singer in the world, I just don't. But his music has inspired me in the way that it makes me feel a connection to the past and going to like touring like sun sun studios and hearing the story about johnny cash and and elvis and jerry lewis.

Speaker 1:

Yeah like they're the million dollar band. Is that what it is, the million dollar? Million dollar quartet, yeah, yeah, yeah if you get a chance to listen, that's like six hours if you have a time, if you have a chance to go to memphis, skip graceland.

Speaker 2:

Sorry for all you elvis lovers, but that is a womp womp.

Speaker 1:

Skip that and go to Sun Studios.

Speaker 2:

Skip that and go to where he actually did stuff at yeah Sun Studios is amazing, but we have always been in a very musical family. We just love it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what inspires you?

Speaker 2:

But I never listen to music when I run.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, we don't.

Speaker 2:

I don't.

Speaker 1:

There was a phase where I went through where I did some you know, but it's, it's almost like it running was um a vent for me as a young teenager I was like venting energy and if I did, I would run to.

Speaker 2:

You know, this is gonna sound crazy. Like there's like one song that I run to tainted love, baba oReilly by the who. I love it. I would time out the breaks and things like that. I would know how much longer I had to run and things like that. I know how long the song Free Bird is, so I would know I should be done with a mile before that song ends. So things like that what's the longest?

Speaker 1:

song, something like Stairway to Heaven or something like that that I don't know. There's like some long songs anyways.

Speaker 1:

Um, so yeah, music's huge inspiration in people's lives um yeah, and then like so I know, obviously there are things that you remember that you do, things you do like we get these coffee mugs from places that we go, you know, and experiences that we have. So we were like well, what are the things that we've done that inspire us or that you've experienced? And running, just in general, you really do get a lot of inspiration from running events.

Speaker 2:

I know Caleb was talking about being able to have people cheer you on the storm outside right now.

Speaker 1:

It's really I don't know if y'all can hear that or not, but it's, it's really blowing out there like I'm fixing to just get a little bit closer. Just storms are not my thing we have a safe room very close because we have been inspired by, you know, april 2011 yeah, april's fury in alabama, ptsd south yeah, sorry for that, um interruption but, yeah, uh, the things that inspires, like activity, wise, um, running in general, like if you go to a race, you're going to be inspired by

Speaker 1:

the people that are better than you, or the people that um are slower than you, you can tell are are doing something greater than what they possibly could have tried like other people could have imagined them doing. You know, like the, the, we always talk about the stroller mom or the stroller dad that when you're halfway through the race, and they get passed by them and it looks like they're not even breaking you low-key, hate them.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, yeah, but then do. But then you're also like you go, oh, you go man. You go. That's awesome.

Speaker 1:

That kid or that spouse or that daughter or whatever. They got some love in their life. It's awesome.

Speaker 2:

And they're living their best life in that stroller too.

Speaker 1:

Heck yeah, they're getting to eat Pop-Tarts while they get ready, or you know we always run the Miles for Molly.

Speaker 2:

That's usually my first run. I call it of my running season. My running season hasn't stopped in a little while.

Speaker 1:

No, it's been pretty consistent. I am fixing to get back into a more seasonal-based running.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to always run, but I'm not always going to be racing. But, Miles for Molly has always been one of my first races. It's in June. It's to celebrate Molly's birthday. Not Molly, my niece, but Molly McNutt. That is their last name, I believe. And she is wheelchair-bound and everything. So they always have this group called I believe it's Ainsley's Angels.

Speaker 1:

I think you're right.

Speaker 2:

They come and they run with people with disabilities and they have those really nice running strollers. And they are always killing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean they're running past you and I don't know. And because Miles for Molly was always my first run, I was never prepared for it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

I'm usually like okay, I'm getting usually Miles for Molly was my, I'm getting back into this, getting back into it, yeah, I think this when I run it in June. It's going to be the first time that I've ran it that it's not yes, yeah. So Miles for Molly was always difficult for me too. It's sneaky hills everywhere throughout that thing. You think, oh, this a difficult, for me too it's a little.

Speaker 1:

It's sneaky hills everywhere throughout that thing you think, oh, this is gonna be easy. It's not no, um, but the people also like at the, at every race, there's always people in the crowd that you can pick out, that inspire you, and I think of like at miles for molly, like there's some people that I was like, oh man, that was awesome.

Speaker 1:

But um, but some of the races that we've been to, there's been people who you like we'll be running together, but not together Like we're at the same race, but like we will both see the same people. And then after the race we'll be like, did you see this person or did you see? And then we'll talk about it and it's like, oh, my goodness, because they inspired both of us. Like one in particular, there was one gentleman that you could tell like he struggled with his legs growing up, like he had an awkward gait. Um, he had, uh, looked like, like, like, like he had a like struggled, like it could have been wheelchair bound at some point when he was younger I have no idea, but um, but we both talked about him after the race and we're like this person could have been told you'll never walk sure, sure and here, they are running faster than me.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

And it's like this is amazing. And there's been a few people like that, where people with you know, even amputees, you know running in events like that and it's like you should never give up. Never give up If you have a dream or a hope to do something.

Speaker 2:

Never give up, because you will inspire people with your actions and it inspires me when I see someone in a wheelchair or that is getting pushed in one of those races. I think when I'm running Miles for Molly, I have been inspired by someone. Maybe I can't even talk me, maybe passing somebody that's pushing one, or them passing me, and it giving me the drive to continue, because I'm like, oh my gosh, you're not dying and look how you have two legs that are working properly, right now to be able to do this.

Speaker 2:

And I'll say Molly's mom, janie, she's a huge inspiration and always has when she's in races. I, um, I love seeing her at races. Um, she has been there for her daughter so much.

Speaker 1:

She's an amazing mom and she, maybe we need to talk to her one of these days, and she puts that race together like, and it usually like.

Speaker 2:

I know that the, the proceeds from it, have gone to like. Help Molly with certain things Wheelchair ramps Putting a shower in or whatever, but then also, like I know this past time, they give that money to other people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were at a phase in their life where they didn't actually physically need something for their daughter, so they benefited other people in similar situations their daughter.

Speaker 2:

So they uh benefited other people in similar situations and I would say even janie doing the miles for molly inspired me that we could put on our own race. Yeah, you know for something.

Speaker 1:

So, janie, if you're listening, you you have been an inspiration to me and you inspire us yeah, I appreciate you, I really do.

Speaker 2:

Um. Some other local runners that have inspired us are, uh, like jeff and angie hoagland.

Speaker 1:

Um the storm again really bad.

Speaker 2:

We're actually in a room that has a safe room in it I'm like should we? Should we hear a train?

Speaker 1:

if we hear a train coming, we'll duck in the safe room, yeah, but but yeah, so you're talking about angie and jeff hoagland, so a lot of people in here'll duck in the safe room, yeah, but yeah, so you're talking about Angie and Jeff Hoagland, so a lot of people in here aren't going to know who they are, but she is Jude's cross-country coach and he is her husband.

Speaker 2:

And he's an assistant with her as well.

Speaker 1:

He's an assistant coach, and both of them have had long running careers.

Speaker 2:

Well, they have their own story and I don't want to get into that because I hope that one day they'll come on here and tell their story. But they have inspired me. They are so consistent, yeah they really have.

Speaker 1:

They have always been consistent and Jude has really been inspired by them with his running career and getting into it yes for sure and being spurned to better himself.

Speaker 2:

And the other parents. We have a lot of parents on the cross-country team that run. You have Sam, gary, you. We have a lot of parents on the cross-country team that run.

Speaker 1:

You have Sam Gary, you have Amberlynn and Chase.

Speaker 2:

Scott, you have the Shelton family. They run yes.

Speaker 1:

Les runs.

Speaker 2:

Les Loggins runs and if I'm leaving you out I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I don't mean to yeah, Shelly.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and Shelly, and Shelly, oh, oh, my goodness, she does like these really long runs, too insane girl.

Speaker 1:

but not to get like too local or anything like that, but every, every everybody's running group inspires them. Everybody's activity group inspires them, even if, like say, you're into camping and the people you build a community with while you're camping, you know, like campers or whatever the people that you're around, seeing people progress in their lives and seeing people grow in their activities and in the things that they're doing, it inspires you to want to better yourself. You know inspires you want to do more than what you're currently doing.

Speaker 2:

So also I follow um, I guess, running influencers on instagram or whatever, and but they're real people. You know, and to see where they came from to where they are now, and it's inspiring, because it's like you don't have to be at this level right now, like they didn't. They weren't at that level or, you know, like I might be at a level higher than you right now, um, but a year ago I was probably where you're at yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, how many of those influencers say like show pictures of three years ago? Versus now and it's like that three years is nothing.

Speaker 2:

That's not long, that's not long at all, or two also they'll have like amazing achievements and then they have some kind of injury or they have like a death in their family, something that sets them back, you know, and then you see them fight for it again.

Speaker 1:

That's, it's so inspiring um, they're just people, you know?

Speaker 2:

yeah, they are just people, and aside from running, because I know not everybody that's listening to this is a runner. That and that's always a metaphor that we're going to use because we do love to run. But I'm inspired, like, like, when it comes to our Christian faith and our Christian walk. It inspires me when people actually come to the house of God.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Now I also want to.

Speaker 2:

Well, like consistency, like you, see in their testimony from where they were to where they are, Like your testimony is powerful, and I want to segue this, too, also with to where they are. Your testimony is powerful, and I want to segue this, too, also with. I do not put my faith in whether those people are there or not. I think encouragement from your fellow believers is so important, but that is not what I rely on, because I'm just going to be honest with you, this is hard truth right here. Okay, if I relied on the encouragement of others to go to church, I wouldn't be at church 100.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm and do I encourage people to go to church? No, it's something to think about. But I also want you to think about are you constantly having to be encouraged? And if you are, why? Because, you know what my number one encouragement is? I just love God, I just love Him.

Speaker 2:

And I want to go to that place where I'm not at work, I'm not at home. There should be nothing that's distracting me. There was a time where I would be worried about VBS. I was worried about this class, or I was worried about what worship songs we're going to do. I was worried about this class, or I was worried about what worship songs we're going to do, or I was worried about this person. I just don't even let any of that bother me anymore, because I'm just not there for any of those people. They're just a bonus. I'm there to be with him and that's all the encouragement that I need, because there were times when that wasn't my encouragement. That's not why I was going to church, and there was a time where I stayed home. I went oh, my stomach hurts. Well, did it really?

Speaker 1:

Or did you just not want to?

Speaker 2:

go people, because that's why you were there. You were just peopling and it's like. So now I'm like I don't ever have those instances. I have gone to church without any makeup on. I've gotten up and been like, yeah, I'm feeling lazy today. I still going to church, it just means. I'm going without makeup on. I really have changed in that aspect.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah yeah, for sure. So yeah, definitely um people who show up, that's for sure that it is, and family to see family that shows up.

Speaker 2:

You know it's important when I say that, that it's an inspiration to me. I'm sorry, I don't mean to cut you off.

Speaker 1:

No you're good, uh that, it's an inspiration to me.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off. No, you're good. That it's an inspiration to me. I don't need you to be there. I am not needing you to be there. What inspires me is that, yes, there's more people that love you too that want to be here for the right reasons. We are in one mind and we are in one accord, you know, and that's inspiring.

Speaker 1:

It really is. Yep.

Speaker 2:

So, like Calvin, do you have specific people and we could name people after people after people that have inspired us, but we can't name them all. I got a story.

Speaker 1:

So who stands out to you? Okay, I got a story, so there was this, uh, this fellow, that. So I was talking about early about male role models, right?

Speaker 1:

um growing up. So this fellow was, um, he was a huge inspiration to me and he really did a lot for our family. When, when we were young, um, we didn't, like I said, we didn't have a father in the house, well, we had, um, anything men oriented that happened at the church. Um, there was a lot of instances where this guy would come and he would pick us up and he would take us. He had an old Dodge Ram. It still had the Ram emblem on the hood, you know, and it was a five speed and and he was a farmer and drove a tractor and everything. I mean, it was just like this. This is a really cool guy, but his name was John Whitley and he only had one leg, oh, and he drove a five-speed. Now I'm like, okay.

Speaker 2:

Oh wow, Mom, why'd you?

Speaker 1:

let me go off with this one-legged guy driving a five-speed on the highway. But you know, like it was just his, he was like really good at just navigating life with one leg. The things he did I was like, wow, this is awesome. Now I remember there was this one time when we went over and helped him at his house a few times, like cutting grass and doing things. I went over there one time and I don't think I've ever shared this with anyone, ever, ever.

Speaker 1:

So we were over there and we were working at this house and we would do like, um, pulling ears of corn, right, and we'd get a bushel and we bring it back to the truck and we go back out with an empty basket and we pull ears of corn and go back. Well, this time I was over at his house and I was going to do some yard work with him and everything. Well, he drove me off into this field on the tractor and he dropped me off and he said there's a lot of rocks in this field, they're going to mess up my tractor. You know that I, when I, after I turned it over anything that's larger than a softball, just throw it off in the woods so that when I can come back. And it wasn't a huge field, I imagine it was probably, you know, like the size of our building, probably.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

But as a young kid I was probably maybe third grade, maybe fourth grade, you know um.

Speaker 1:

It looked like it was forever you know, it did not have my attention, did not have my love, and he dropped me off. Well, I literally got so overwhelmed that I quit, I quit, and I kind of carried that with me, you know, and I walked back to the house. I got maybe like a third of it done and I was just like I hate this, I hate this. I saw no value in it or nothing, and I was only thinking about myself, obviously, I look back on that.

Speaker 1:

I did not think about him and the value it would have for him to not have to deal with large boulders when he's trying to plan a new field, yeah, and. But I get back to the house and um, and I and I at that point I knew that I couldn't be crying when I walked up. I had to man up, right. But I was a coward in that moment. I gave up and I look back on that every time that I go to do something. I'm like I'm not quitting again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know because.

Speaker 2:

I was young.

Speaker 1:

I was young when that happened and I keep thinking about like John had to do that because I didn't, and he only had one leg and I regret that. I do regret that, but he definitely inspired me with his willingness to just adapt and to do and to provide. And his wife, jo, she was amazing too. Yeah, but he was one of those ones that I look back on. I'm like what guys inspired you when you were younger?

Speaker 2:

I'm like, okay, yeah, he's at the tops up there just because of the situation I was thinking about, like how we can be that for other people too, and we might not even know, like in that moment, he might not be thinking about that when you're 40 something years old, that you're going to be talking about that moment.

Speaker 1:

Oh, no, in the field. You know, I don't even know if he ever even knew how far I went or anything. It was just like I'm done and you know I'm thinking as a grown man.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't expecting amazing results from this third grade boy, but you know but, and it was just right, you knew you didn't do your best I knew.

Speaker 1:

I did not put in my best, yeah, and I, and I've regretted that ever since. Yeah, john, if you happen to hear this, or anyone that knew him knows him or anything. I hope he's still alive. I can't, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because he was already in his 50s, I guess, back then. So, I don't remember. Yeah, I need to find out. But anyways.

Speaker 2:

Well, like, obviously our parents have inspired us. I never want to uh talk about anybody else before I talk about them oh yeah because where would we be without them? You know, I think about my mom a lot when it comes to how I'm a mom. She displayed how to be a mom so well. Looking back, I think of how she was working and she would come home and I was a latchkey kid basically Kelly and I both were and I would stay at, kelly would have band practice because there were five years between us.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm sorry sorry, there goes this. Okay, that's really bad. The doors are shaking.

Speaker 2:

Right now I'm gonna look up. Okay, we're gonna pause one second. Let's pause. All right, guys, we are back after that crazy storm that came through. It's still kind of brewing out there, but um, we did jump in the safe room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we did um. So anywho.

Speaker 2:

Uh, we were talking about the people that have inspired us, and I can't not say my parents, you know 100.

Speaker 2:

I saw them um both work really hard to provide us with everything we needed and wanted. But you know my mom in particular, looking back, I think about how she was working, and then she would come home and put an amazing dinner on the table for us every single night, and on Wednesday nights we were going to church and all that. And so I know how tired I am as a mom and, looking back, I know how tired she was too and she was still doing it, and you know, and my dad worked really hard too and he would do side jobs until he eventually built up his own business.

Speaker 1:

But, um, so you know does it make you think about like how tired you are sometimes and like you still put in the effort to make sure your kids have what they need. Like that was your mom too, you know?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I think about that. I mean that she modeled that in front of me, so that inspired me to want to be a mom like, like she was and she is. She still does that for her family oh yeah, grandkids and everything but you know, I think we have to talk about the number one person who has inspired us, and that is.

Speaker 1:

Our Lord and Savior.

Speaker 2:

That's right. He is at the top of the top. You know people will let you down. I'm going to let you down. Do not put stock in me.

Speaker 1:

No, because I'm fallible.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to let you down. I want to, but I'm going to let you down. I want to, but I'm going to.

Speaker 1:

Humans on a pedestal in anything, whether it's an athlete or a celebrity or a parent or a sibling or a friend or a coach or whatever people in general let you down? Yes, they do. I will let you down because I am still human at the end of the day. That's right I will say something stupid that will hurt your feelings, Even if it's on accident it'll still hurt your feelings.

Speaker 1:

You know we're human. I guess that's the thing about. Why it's so important to have a relationship with God is because he's the only constant in our life that can inspire us to greatness and not let us down.

Speaker 2:

Who has absolute good intended for us, as well you know I think about not everybody out there has good for you yeah, do you know what I mean, because we can all be selfish.

Speaker 2:

There can be like jealousy or envy that plays a part, um, but god is always gonna want what's best for us and he knows what's best for us and he's so gracious and merciful that he inspires us, he gives us ideas, because I always think about if I come up with a good idea it wasn't me that came up with it, it was him and you know I was thinking about yesterday.

Speaker 2:

You know me and you. Just, we had to make a Sam's run but we stopped at another broken egg and had an omelet together and we had the laptop and we just sat there and brainstormed and it was like it felt like God was there with us, like he was giving us so many ideas for the future and we were able to write things down because we don't really get that time a lot that we need to be able to do that and I think that he, just he was there in the midst of us and he was helping us and I felt, in all the overwhelming pressure that owning a business can make you feel, I still felt so inspired in that moment, even though there was so much that I needed to do, you know, and that only comes from him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's the peace that passes all understanding.

Speaker 1:

And there's a reason why that's even thing, because when you can't understand how you can have peace in the middle of a storm, in the middle of, like, a storm, we got going on. Right now we have peace and it's a security, knowing that, no matter what comes, our hope is not founded in things of this world yeah, it's founded on things of our heavenly father's home. It's founded on things that are of God's intended plan for us, which is a perfect, right relationship with him. And knowing that alone it puts you in a position of power, it puts you in a position of authority over the things that will want to drag you down. So understanding that is inspirational. Nothing that comes at you, nothing that you have to deal with, is ever going to take the place of His love Never.

Speaker 1:

And we're so thankful for that.

Speaker 2:

We're thankful for our God and the testimonies that he has other people share with us constantly, either at church or in our yeah, the stories in the Bible as well, and I think about all these things that we've listed that inspire us. All that comes from Him, and you're like a movie comes from Him. Well, he inspired somebody to do that movie, everything is from Him the creativity, the artistry.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and so I'm just thankful for Him and that he continues to inspire us. I'm always in awe that he even wants to pay attention to me. But he does, and you know, but he does, and he's saying pay attention to me. He's like look at me, look at me, you know, and he's all I want to look at.

Speaker 1:

He really is as we look towards heaven, yeah, but thank you all so much for joining us today.

Speaker 2:

It's been another great episode. I hope you've enjoyed it and we pray for the Lord to