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Episode 38: PETA's Response, Antarctic's Hammer Bras, and AI Ghosts
When PETA writes you an angry email demanding corrections, you know your podcast has officially made it. In this wildly entertaining episode, we dive into PETA's semantic nitpicking over whether they "shoot" or merely "euthanize" animals deemed "unadoptable" — a distinction that feels more like confirmation than correction.
The disturbing saga of the Antarctic research station takes a chilling turn as we learn about a female researcher who slept with a hammer concealed in her sports bra, prepared to defend herself against a colleague who had threatened to kill her. The isolation and vulnerability of her situation highlights the terrifying reality of being trapped with a predator at literally the bottom of the world.
Technology's uncanny valley comes to life as we explore an 88-year-old widower who created an AI "digital twin" of his late wife, Suzanne Somers. This fascinating yet unsettling development sparks a deeper conversation about grief, denial, and the ethics of digital resurrection. When the AI replica claims to remember specific shared moments and speaks with the voice of the deceased, are we witnessing healing or harmful delusion?
From father-son death match wrestling involving electrocution to Scott Peterson's prison pickleball disputes, we examine how violence manifests in both entertainment and real life. Meanwhile, as 23andMe faces bankruptcy, millions frantically attempt to delete their genetic data before it potentially becomes corporate property, raising profound questions about privacy and ownership of our most personal information.
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bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup, bup. Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome to OK Bud, the podcast where everything's gonna be OK Bud. I am Ben Kissel at BenKissel1, joined by Jerry Akito. Hello At Miss underscore, jerry, that's J-E-R-I-I and, as always, kyle Plouffe at Kyle Plouffe. Thank you all so much for joining the show. If you're watching live on Patreon, go to patreoncom, slash diebud and you can join the gang and comment. Thank you all so much for those who are watching now. Also, okbudpod at gmailcom. Shoot us an email, let us know what you think of the show. We've got a bunch of updates to get to today and let's start with the aforementioned email. Oh, it's email time. Last episode, we discussed Danny McBride and his production company for Righteous Gemstones using a live monkey in their show and PETA was quite upset. And now PETA has come for us.
Speaker 2:PETA has sent us an email, oh man. I can't believe this got all the way up to PETA as quickly as it did.
Speaker 1:For real. I'm really proud of us guys. This is awesome. We finally made it to PETA.
Speaker 2:PETA hate mail. All right, well, peta decided to write us.
Speaker 1:Like, what if you're a big PETA fan and you're like, I'm kind of a PETA-phile?
Speaker 2:Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy I'm obsessed with PETAs.
Speaker 1:I'm obsessed, I'm absolutely.
Speaker 2:I'm a PETA-bred.
Speaker 1:Indeed.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, hi Jerry and Kyle. I'm writing in response to your recent episode discussing Danny McBride's use of a live primate in the Righteous Gemstones, which included false and defamatory claims about PETA's community work. That requires immediate on-air correction.
Speaker 1:Okay, perhaps a correction is needed. Let's see Does PETA kill animals? Do they shoot animals, as Kyle said?
Speaker 2:No, peta has never shot an animal. Nor does PETA kill every animal that they come into contact with.
Speaker 3:I believe I said they dragged them out to the back alley and shot them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they don't do that.
Speaker 3:Clearly, we meant literally.
Speaker 2:That's what he meant, but PETA actually does, among many other services is provide that. They put that in parentheses. Among many other services is provide they put that in parentheses among many other services do you have taxes, anyway? Is provide euthanasia for sick and dying animals whose guardian brings them to us because they can't afford to have them put down to sleep at a veterinary's office. Okay, so that's kind of nice.
Speaker 1:What kind of animals do they kill?
Speaker 2:What kind of animals do they kill? They kill animals who are elderly, feral, sick, suffering, aggressive or otherwise unadoptable.
Speaker 1:So they basically kill every animal they see.
Speaker 2:So like black cats.
Speaker 3:They're Judge Jerry and Euthanizer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is wild, that's well.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, peta, they got mostly upset with the idea that they shot the animals. Yes, no, they euthanized the animals and I also want to know what does otherwise unadoptable mean?
Speaker 3:It means whatever they want it to mean. That's not adoptable. It's alive Among many other services.
Speaker 2:It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I've never seen I think we were completely correct I've never seen a correction be like we don't shoot them, we just kill them if they're old, sick or suffering and they think that the animal that is suffering in this case is the monkey who's about to be a television star on a hit show with Danny McBride he probably lives way better than I do. Eddie wins.
Speaker 2:That's pretty fun. So, basically, Peter wrote us an email that I feel like I can translate a lot more simply than what they were all writing there. So we said you kill animals. And then they were like hey, hey, when you put it like that, we don't kill animals, we kill animals.
Speaker 1:Come on. So thank you so much. Thanks, peter, thank you for so much Thanks, PETA.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the mail. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:The record has been corrected. They do not shoot animals, they euthanize animals. Yes, and here at OK Bud we want to keep it true, we want to keep it on the up and up. And so, peta, your request has been met. Yes, and you do not shoot them in an alley, you euthanize them in a bed somewhere. All right, well, let's go on to a couple of updates. We talked about that Antarctic research crew where one of the members went batshit insane and started being all gropey and aggressive. We're finding out more from what happened at that research station, a gal named Liz Moynihan.
Speaker 1:she says that it was so scary, so stressful she slept with a hammer in her bra. Whoa, so that is so. Apparently, this male coworker of hers was again absolutely fucking nuts and she was worried that she was going to be next, because they were trapped with this madman who had sexually assaulted a colleague and threatened to kill them. It got so bad. Again, she slept with a hammer in her bra.
Speaker 2:Did, like an army Swiss knife, not do the trick.
Speaker 1:I think maybe just a good old whap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, but Whack, whack, whack.
Speaker 1:A hammer is like her bra. She must have had some space in there.
Speaker 2:Who even? Okay, she said she goes to sleep with a bra on her hammer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Is that a hammer in your bra, is that?
Speaker 2:a bra in your hammer.
Speaker 3:Or are you just terrified to see me?
Speaker 2:No, but if she first of all, women don't sleep with their bras on, they don't. No, that sounds so uncomfortable. It's like one of the best things, like how guys like to do the unbuckling of their pants when they get home. Girls like to unsnap the bra and just take that off, right?
Speaker 3:I've seen that Like yes freedom.
Speaker 2:Get them thangs banging, not start putting tools inside of it?
Speaker 1:Right, that's how bad it was.
Speaker 2:That is bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they say she was 34 years old. She was isolated for months.
Speaker 2:The ladies couldn't live freely.
Speaker 1:Yep, Also the small crew. It included an amateur boxer with a history of alcohol-related crimes, so I don't know if they really vetted this team very well. Wow, so anyway, that's the update there. She recalled no one but myself was there to save me. Fearing her fellow colleague would kill her, she grabbed a hammer, concealed it in her sports bra and her overalls. Ah, she says, if he came anywhere near me I was going to start swinging at him there you go Nice, nice.
Speaker 2:I like that. I would have done the same thing.
Speaker 1:Yep Well yeah. She says I decided that I was going to survive, so she is the final girl oh, that's so awesome.
Speaker 2:Yes, for her it's a really nice metaphor for life too.
Speaker 1:You got to realize that no one's going to save you but yourself exactly and true to every horror movie trope, apparently the person who was going nuts. He yelled at her saying snitches, get stitches, Because she was probably like I'm going to tell someone that you're a psychopath, Like this ain't right.
Speaker 1:And then he's like snitches get stitches. She says it was an open secret that the guy had been harassing her after she had called 911. She says he is capable of hurting me and he wants to hurt me. I've been living in fear for the last two days.
Speaker 3:She called 911 in Antarctica.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I don't think they were able to get there. It's going to take a while. Yeah, they don't get there now and we can call them North Hollywood and they won't show up.
Speaker 2:North Hollywood is like pretty much off limits anyway. They're like no, that's a dud.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter, it's fine. Yeah, that's a thing. She says. That was the worst. It was so terrifying and apparently the guy in question he's facing no legal action or consequences, so he just tormented these people for like a year and then I guess they just went their own ways.
Speaker 2:She can press charges.
Speaker 3:In what court it's Antarctica? What are they governed by?
Speaker 2:The the Glorglocks, the.
Speaker 1:Antartics. Yeah, who is the Antartics? Who's the-? Is it the wizard from Wicked?
Speaker 3:Yeah, could be.
Speaker 2:Well, he's not real.
Speaker 3:And he wasn't such a nice guy he was on the show.
Speaker 1:By the way, I saw Wicked yesterday. I didn't listen to it, but I've heard all the songs.
Speaker 2:He actually, like, saw it while it was on mute. I just watched it. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I've heard all the songs at karaoke places around yeah. And it is a beautiful film.
Speaker 2:It is a beautiful film. Yes, kyle.
Speaker 3:The pacing was off.
Speaker 1:I thought the pacing was very nice.
Speaker 2:Yes, when you don't hear it, yes, nice.
Speaker 1:It was so nice. Okay, okay, very, very nice. All right, so that's an update on what happened in Antarctica. We also have a little update on the Princeton man who ate his brother's eyeball. Oh no, it's beginning. He is heading to court as the case heads to a grand jury. I had a chance of being on grand jury duty in Brooklyn, new York, and it was fascinating. There's 24 people. You have to get 12 of those people to say that the case should go forward. It's called a true bill. Wow, that's a low standard, very low standard.
Speaker 3:Half.
Speaker 1:Yes, they're like you're basically guaranteed if they bring the case against you, you're basically guaranteed that it's going to go to trial, Right. If they bring the case against you, you're basically guaranteed that it's going to go to trial, Right. But it really is a subset of society and it didn't give me great hope for the future seeing the random jurors that were plucked in Brooklyn. Holy hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But the preppy Princeton murder suspect. Again he's accused of eating his brother's younger eyeball in a fit of rage.
Speaker 2:For those that don't recall, he also had a small fork, did you say, eating his little brother's younger eyeball.
Speaker 3:No, technically it's still true, his younger brother's eyeball, but he did say brother's younger eyeball.
Speaker 1:Well, his eyeball would be younger as well. Exactly.
Speaker 2:As opposed to the older eyeball.
Speaker 1:The older eyeball would be in the older brother's eye. Yes, the old no. So the eyeballs age with the body within their, which they are within.
Speaker 2:Do they age at the same time though?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're the same eyes, Well.
Speaker 2:I would hope so. You know he ate the younger one, so yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe they do. Some people do have different levels of sight between the eyes.
Speaker 2:Anyway, oh, like if one has astigmatism.
Speaker 1:Could be. Yes, that's the older brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of the two eyeballs that are technically the same age but one has astigmatism Right. That makes all the sense of the world, I get it. Anyway, for those that don't remember, he ate the younger brother's eyeball with a fork and knife.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Because, he's classy, he like set it up, did he? Light a candle.
Speaker 3:Yes, no, he lit a cat on fire, that's right, he lit the cat on fire.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, kitty, flavored candle. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 1:That's right. He has now begun the proceedings. He showed up in court. He's very scruffy now. He had a sort of a reddish sweatshirt on. All of the court proceedings are being done via Zoom. He voiced such pleasantries as saying hello.
Speaker 3:He thanked the judge.
Speaker 1:The next hearing is set for May 2nd. Again, he was a former soccer player. He stands accused of using a knife and a golf club to kill his 26-year-old brother Joseph, at their Princeton apartment. And again, that place was so. It's so uncommon for murder to occur. When police cars arrived, many people thought a celebrity was in town, wow. But indeed a celebrity was not.
Speaker 3:Is Prince Harry here?
Speaker 1:A man with a full tummy of eyeball.
Speaker 2:Ew.
Speaker 1:Was indeed in town.
Speaker 2:At least he scruffed up a little bit to be like hey, I know they keep talking about me like I'm this college soccer player, but I'm actually like 35.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they gave him like a Harvard sweatshirt too. What is this shit?
Speaker 1:Yeah Well it's still well. Maybe that was to offend him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is an Ivy Leaguer.
Speaker 1:But you know what's kind of weird? They do all this stuff via Zoom now, so the person doesn't get to walk into the courtroom, which is probably like a fun part of the day.
Speaker 2:At least it switches up their routine Absolutely. They get to dress up somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yes, you get out of the jail cell you get to go kind of see normal-ish people. I mean, they're lawyers and a judge so they're all kind of psychotic. But you know, that's really part of the joy of being a criminal. I would assume was the spectacle of the trial.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes.
Speaker 1:That's why I think this Koberger guy is loving every second of his experience right now. Of course, that's Brian Koberger, the man suspected of killing four individuals, but we'll keep you updated on that case as well. Anyway, that is the update on the Princeton killer and we shall see how that case goes. It does seem to me like he has a potential insanity plea, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because that seems a little crazy. It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3:I think he would if he did not call the police, because he had a moment of normalcy, being like oh my God, and knew what had happened. So he called the police.
Speaker 2:Yikes, yeah, so there was some kind of a.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like to report up. Sir, are you chewing on something? Oh, it's my younger eyeball.
Speaker 2:My younger eyeball.
Speaker 1:It's this young eyeball, I got to go get the old one. Yes, yes, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, what else have we got? Going on, oh love. Love.
Speaker 1:We talk about it. So this is a toss-up, and I want to hear from the chat as well. Patreoncom slash diebud Suzanne Summers. She has died and she had a husband named Alan Hamill. This is the first case that I can think of where this is happening. This is Black Mirror happening in real time. Not the first time we've seen those comparisons in real life, but just with this experience when it comes to artificial intelligence, uh-oh, a robotic replica of the late actress she died in October of 2023, has been brought to life.
Speaker 1:This Hamill, who is now 88,. He helped create a quote digital twin of the three companies star. That's, of course again Suzanne Somers, who you'll remember seeing the inside of her thighs, quite often with the Thighmaster. Hell yeah, you can do that, yeah, and I think all three of us that was a sexual awakening. Yes, well, maybe you were too young.
Speaker 2:Jared. Well, that wasn't really nice. I mean, it catches up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does catch up, it stays on television. But the Thighmaster was amazing. She was just like here's my vagina, here it is, here it is, here it is. She was playing vaginal peekaboo. We were all children. My mom got the Thighmaster. My mom did too. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank God, my mom did not do that.
Speaker 1:It was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:It just sounds horrifying yeah.
Speaker 1:And I also don't like my mom's. Like Mom, what are you working on your Kegels?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's happening?
Speaker 3:That is what they're doing In front of your son, yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't need to know about the relationship between you and my father. Anyone who long-time listeners know my mom's a giggler, oh God. So I knew when the giggling was. When the house was a laughing, ben was outside playing.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh, binked. Well, let's just get away from that.
Speaker 1:I have the memory that I'll never, never leave me. Yeah yeah, maybe I should go give myself to PETA. I think that I'm insufferable enough?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that I'm insufferable enough.
Speaker 1:I think I'm suffering.
Speaker 2:Do you think you're unadoptable?
Speaker 1:I think so.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Do you think PETA would agree with that?
Speaker 1:I do believe that they would kill me.
Speaker 2:But they wouldn't shoot you.
Speaker 1:No, just euthanize me and let me float away.
Speaker 2:Yes. Well, that's kind of what happened to Suzanne Summers he says Hamill, this is is again her grieving ex-husband.
Speaker 1:He's 88. He says this to the robot. He says meeting you was like a fresh was, like a breath of fresh air. And he's talking. He says or maybe this is the robot talking to him your energy is so uplifting. It always makes my day connecting with wonderful people like you. And then one of the so that was Suzanne Somers AI bot talking there, so it has her voice.
Speaker 1:Yes. And then one of the demonstrators on the stage said do you remember the name Alan Hamill? Of course that's her ex -husband or, you know, widow. And she says the AI bot says of course I do. Alan Hamill is my husband of 55 years. He's my partner in everything from life to love, and we shared so many beautiful memories together.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:However, interestingly enough, the couple was only married for 46 years. Damn so AI did fuck it up. They messed it up, yes, by nine whole years.
Speaker 2:Oh Lord, and it's the younger-looking one. Well, yeah, if they've been together for 46 or 55, however many years, then why wouldn't it? It should be like an older version.
Speaker 1:No, because he wants to remember her young.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well then it has to be appropriate to meeting her three years ago.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I guess it is kind of strange if he's 88 and he's just, I mean, they didn't make her a teenager. No, no, she's an adult.
Speaker 2:That's why I said like three years, Like I'm saying like if she's that young, then she could be living within this body of being like, oh yeah, we just met like five years ago. And I'm really in love with my husband.
Speaker 1:We're like newly married. Gotcha.
Speaker 2:Or if she was like we've been married for 46 years, then I would expect for her to look like him Right, for her to look like him age-wise.
Speaker 1:Right, because she looks to be in her 30s as far as the AI bot goes. Good point, yeah, solid point. So then the fella asking the questions. He says what's your favorite memory? And then the AI bot says there's so many. One of my favorites is when Alan and I were filming a cooking segment together a long time ago. She says we had a little mishap with the blender. Let's just say it didn't go as planned and we ended up wearing more of the smoothie than we actually made. We laughed so hard and it became a running joke in our house. It's those lighthearted moments that bring us together, so that's a very highly specific memory. That apparently is true. Like Hamill was like, that is a true memory.
Speaker 2:Well, because they were recording it Right. So she has, like data access to it. Yes, so like she's not going to be able to access?
Speaker 1:a memory that isn't like accessible through data. Yeah, she won't be like. Remember that time I gaped your asshole and a bunch of turds fell out, but we didn't tell anybody.
Speaker 2:Right. Right she won't be able to do that. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 1:Right, right, but this has apparently been really helping him, so he's interacting with this robot quite regularly.
Speaker 2:Really that would be freaky. I would get so mad at the robot Like I was literally just well while you were like saying her little quote of like the memory.
Speaker 3:I would just start like hitting it and be like shut up, you'll never be hurt, you'll never be hurt.
Speaker 1:Well, it sounds like he's trying to put a hammer in her bra too. Well, a hamel in her bra, okay, yeah, his penis, he might, he might, yeah, yeah, I don't know. Apparently it's helping him kind of mourn and grieve and it it's just very bizarre. Do we want our? So, basically, the toss-up question is when somebody dies, is it appropriate to entertain the idea that they're still here via AI, because we can do that now?
Speaker 3:Eh, it would be annoying.
Speaker 2:It would Not annoying.
Speaker 3:It'd be like you're not the person. It would just piss me off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't use the word annoying. It'd be frustrating.
Speaker 2:Like ugh, not you again.
Speaker 3:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Fuck off, you kicked the bucket. Okay, jerry and Co? I'm assuming that the marriage was not Dominican or Bostonian, so let's just say they had a nice marriage. Oh wow, and you loved your significant other. Does that exist?
Speaker 2:She comes back to life. Her AI generator just wants to go out to the club on Friday night without you, I want to go with my girls Now you're a robot, slut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, god damn it.
Speaker 2:Why are you wearing that skirt?
Speaker 1:Okay, well, let's just say that they had a nice relationship and maybe it's mother child, whatever. Yeah, do we want to let them die or is this part of healing? Does this halt the healing process?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I think it's like unhealthy and it like pauses you in like a delusional space.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you really get along with it, then it's just that's weird, I mean. But that's the whole point. Just look at photos and videos like everybody else? Yeah, but isn't that just the extension of this? No, because you're really interacting yeah
Speaker 1:I mean, I mean back in the day, back in that day people were like, oh, photos, steal your soul, don't take photos. And people probably thought the same thing. They're like, yeah, he's just jerking off to her picture all the time like she's still alive. Let her go, sam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know I wouldn't, yeah, no, I wouldn't want to do it. I would like I. I would get upset and be like. This is not working.
Speaker 3:I'd end up killing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, same here.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess I'm just a little bit of a soft. You might trick your. Okay, what if you're super old, like this guy's 88. What the fuck? Is there really any damage in him thinking that his wife is still?
Speaker 1:he's about to die, right, so it might help him, be happy to what send himself off just be like well, I'm not so lonely because I got this machine that looks like my ex-wife kind of, and she sort of says the same things that she would say to me what about being around loved ones and like alive family members that also share this loss with you? Yeah, that's true. And now also the love family, the.
Speaker 2:The family members no longer need to show love because they're like he's got his fucking ai bot yeah, and if you invite him over, he's gonna bring the thing to dinner and we all have to pretend that it's fucking real and like some people like me and kyle are gonna be really annoyed about it, and then someone else is gonna be like, shut up, he needs this and it's right it's gonna be a nightmare yeah, panos got a good point.
Speaker 3:He said some people see an owl and think it's their loved one. Why not, ai? No one believes it's actually her soul or do.
Speaker 1:This is the question of the soul yeah what if? What if she is in this now, whatever verse, and suzanne summers has now been brought back because of this goddamn thing, and she's like I was just chilling with Mohammed. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:How brave am I.
Speaker 1:Mohammed, and now she's stuck back on Earth inside of this stupid ass contraption that a bunch of people are ogling once again.
Speaker 2:Again, data accessible stuff. That's not a soul.
Speaker 3:Okay, if someone trapped me in a fucking doll, I'd be so mad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it'd be so annoying, yeah supposed to fly free, and now I'm just in this doll that's true.
Speaker 1:That's true. Any other comments?
Speaker 3:uh, that's the saying. Who gets the robot after he dies?
Speaker 1:we don't know oh true, yeah, I think you just put them out to pasture. You bury him with said robot. Oh yeah, but it is bizarre. We're there now. Yeah, pano said it may if it makes them happy, go for it.
Speaker 3:Not for me, though I agree with that. You bury him with said robot, oh yeah, but it is bizarre. We're there now. Yeah, pano said if it makes him happy, go for it. Not for me, though I agree with that.
Speaker 1:We are now, isn't this? This is what the scientists this is.
Speaker 1:Silicon Valley's version of the forever life is that you can now be uploaded into AI. Technically we probably don't have to, because now we have, because now we have what this is episode 38 of this show we probably have enough of a sample size where AI could just kind of figure out what we're going to say. They'll be like Ben's going to talk about a gaping butthole here, and then Jerry is going to say something very funny and then kind of mean towards Ben there, and then Kyle kind of told us something Anti-woman, anti-woman, there Stupid.
Speaker 1:You know. So it's kind of I think that it's probably already figured us out yeah, because every word we say into these little microphones is being recorded and watched by PETA. Closely. Get the fuck out of here, peta, or please.
Speaker 2:No watch.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Yeah, join the show, yeah.
Speaker 3:This is Claire. Claire's got a poignant point what we can't cure, we have to endure. Oh yes, Letter B Letter.
Speaker 1:B.
Speaker 2:The letter B.
Speaker 1:Letter B she says Suzanne Somers no need.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Just go relax in the afterlife, I agree, all right. Well, I just think that's fascinating that we are now officially in the sci-fi universe. I've been watching a lot of the old sci-fi movies from the 80s and we are further along than I think many of those films expected. You think so. I think so In the dumbest possible way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the stupid ways.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And then we're also not at some spots that you would have hoped to have been in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't just take a laser gun and cure cancer, because we love cancer here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's sick. It's too much money.
Speaker 1:Exactly, it's a health, it's a sick care system.
Speaker 2:It is a scandal system.
Speaker 1:Well, speaking of relatives, let's move on to a story that I really love because it involves professional wrestling. Love that this has been considered the most death matchy, death match of all time.
Speaker 2:Meaning really close to death.
Speaker 1:Do you know what death matches are Jer?
Speaker 2:It's the ones where you're close to death.
Speaker 1:Literally Basically barbed wire, fire staples, pizza pans, pizza cutters, Knives. Light bulbs Stables yes, Everything that you could possibly imagine to cause superficial, yet also very real punishment to your wrestling partner.
Speaker 2:Quote, unquote, superficial. That all sounds extremely, extremely real.
Speaker 1:It is, and they do it for the fans.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:So this wrestling match? It was a barbed wire match, so there was no cables around the ring, there were barbed wires. It involved a father and a son team. The son decided to electrocute his father with jumper cables. Well in the ring. His name is Jack Harap, he's 27. He fought his dad in what's being dubbed the most gruesome death match of all time. I don't know, I'm going to have to see this one. Yeah, it looks really cool. His dad in what's being dubbed the most gruesome death match of all time.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I'm going to have to see this one. Yeah, it looks really cool. There's some really fucking crazy ones out there.
Speaker 1:It's also so sweet for a father and son. See, this is how father and son bond. Yes, death matches.
Speaker 2:Oh well, I mean, I guess they might already do that in the house anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the young dude. He connected jump lead cables to a battery in the middle of the ring. This was in the UK.
Speaker 2:That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:He then clipped them to metal chains that acted as the ring ropes. Okay, so there were metal chains, not barbed wire, and they say then he flicked it and indeed caused quite a bit of damage to his father by electrocuting, I believe, his testicles.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Aye, aye, aye, whoa, yeah. So it's one of the most violent things that's ever happened in the UK when it comes to professional wrestling. The electrocution incident also involved also the match. Involved not just electrocution but tables, sticks and sharp barbed wire. Some people online said it was dumb. Some people said this isn't wrestling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it seems like they're just really fucking each other up.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of wrestling purists that don't like this, purely because it's all spectacle. It has no athletic ability whatsoever.
Speaker 2:I mean, it seems like shock value.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly that's what it is that shock value?
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly that's what it is. Yeah, literally. But yeah, I paid $8 for this fucking ticket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, kill each other, Please. That's literally it.
Speaker 1:God, I want my gosh darned money's worth.
Speaker 3:I didn't come to this high school gymnasium for nothing.
Speaker 1:Or this VFW or beer hole Kill? Yeah, I used to. I was like the only 13-year-old. So the Japanese death matches that I would go watch Whoa, they were at Hollywood Video.
Speaker 2:Well, now that sounds like it was to the death.
Speaker 1:It was, yeah, some of them. There was one where a dude, I think I've was awesome, but they pulled them out really fast and then as a kid I was like don't. But as an adult I'm like don't do it. You probably shouldn't do that match. Do you have insurance? But I would have to go buy all the porno to get to my Japanese death match wrestling. And they would be like you can't go in there. I'd be like I got to go behind the beads.
Speaker 2:Exactly, yeah, yeah, totally, yep. The 21 plus section.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, children were there and apparently they were Apparently children were there were kind of shocked and I guess it probably scared them a little bit.
Speaker 2:You think so?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of lights and electrocution and just hurting people and violence?
Speaker 1:Did their parents even warn them? I mean, if they're cool when we were going, no Okay, if you're a kid who didn't love it, that's fine, but like, come on.
Speaker 2:I mean, how cool is that? That's pretty shocking.
Speaker 1:Indeed, so the name of the match was the Pits of Punishment. Shocking Indeed, so the name of the match was the pits of punishment, and it offered a family discount for parents who wanted to bring their kids. Wow, so isn't that nice. So you got a little discount. Uh, audiences were left a little bit upset, apparently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I would. I'd be a little upset too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, one wrestler I thought this was scripteded.
Speaker 2:It is that doesn't look scripted oh, they wrote it.
Speaker 1:They wrote that down. Yeah, then I grabbed the jumper cables, put them on your nuts and I electrocute you.
Speaker 3:Oh, and then that's what they did that might be the new cure for ed oh, it could be.
Speaker 1:One wrestler did say it went a little overboard, um, but he is sick of fucking apologizing. Yeah, so a wrestler was like yeah, it was overboard, but I'm done fucking apologizing. Yeah, so a wrestler was like, yeah, it was overboard, but I'm done fucking apologizing for it.
Speaker 2:No more Sorry, I was sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the event organizers. They said we're not going to repeat this, whatever everyone's just like all right already. I won't do it again jesus, it seems like the biggest issue kind of fun. It seems like the biggest issue was the fact that it was family night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because some people, but it was a story about family damn it yeah yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it was. I mean, we've covered so many stories where someone's throwing an omelet at their mom's head, or you know, a wife all of a sudden throws lasagna at her husband and then the cops are called. Yeah. So they say please don't do death matches on a family-friendly show. There's a time and a place for it, but it's not for the families.
Speaker 2:Not for the families man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, got to grow up sometime. Yeah, the world's a brutal, brutal place, it's so true.
Speaker 3:In order to become a man, you have to fight your dad. That's true. That was a coming of age story we just saw.
Speaker 2:That's always a coming of age thing that you guys do, right.
Speaker 1:We have to yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you know, you can defend yourself. You have to start stomping some ground.
Speaker 1:Yep, at 13, I had to confront my father and then so he was kind of a hands-on father, but then he went real hands-off. I think he was like scared of me and stuff.
Speaker 2:And then I was just kind of nuts for a while. And then, how did your brothers do when they had to come of age?
Speaker 1:Oh, similar, Similar. Well, my brother Chris. He went to Milan to model, so he was like I'm fucking out of here.
Speaker 2:Very similar.
Speaker 1:And then my older brother, eric. He was more, he was very, he was an easier kid. I think he was the easiest kid.
Speaker 2:Was he the first?
Speaker 1:He's the first one. He's the first one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're always the easy ones?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he is just like we're going to blow this up. And then the younger brother is like, so I have no more rules.
Speaker 2:Literally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's basically it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's exactly how it goes.
Speaker 1:It's probably led to some troubles in my life, but hey, whatever, Same here, yeah, so yeah, anyway. One of the wrestlers, Ronnie Thatcher. Yeah, that's what they said, Very British, Very British. They said I'm done apologizing. They said I've apologized and apologized numerous fucking times. How many more times do I need to apologize? And that's Ronnie Thatcher. There, and you can see these wrestlers. They're just like young nerds.
Speaker 2:They're like kids. Yeah, they're just kids, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I guess it's. Yeah, it was the family thing, but I love the idea of a good Japanese death match. They're really fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I don't know if they really exist anymore. In that same way, no.
Speaker 2:It doesn't seem like they do.
Speaker 1:My Instagram feed has been full of Ugandan wrestling.
Speaker 2:Oh jeez, Really yes. What's that like?
Speaker 1:It's in mud and there's not really a ring, and they beat the shit out of each other.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure, so just fights.
Speaker 1:But also script Like they let each other beat the shit out of each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know. Terry Funk and Mankind Cactus Jack. Those were the death matches I grew up with, very brutal, absolutely.
Speaker 2:They were always in Japan too. My brother. Computer chair, the bed, wooden railings for the kids oh nice, those are the kind of death matches I saw Gum in your hair.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's bad.
Speaker 2:These are the kinds of death matches I saw, yeah atomic wedgie. Atomic wedgie being rolled around in a computer chair and then slammed into a wall.
Speaker 1:At least he didn't eat your younger eye. He did not eat my younger eye, it's still here. I know.
Speaker 2:A little astigmatism, but it's not treated, so we're good.
Speaker 1:My older brother did the whole goodness spit on your face and slurp it up thing. It's rough, hated it.
Speaker 2:I think I ran him into a glass table once. He still has a scar Good.
Speaker 1:On once. He still has a scar. Good, honestly, yeah, yeah, my little brother michael. He was charging at me in one of his fits of rage when he was like seven years old, yeah, and I stepped away and then he went through glass yeah, he blames me wow, to this day, he's 32 he blames me, but I stepped away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you ran through it, you moron yeah, that's, you know, the old looney tunes okay, that's exactly how I got stabbed with an umbrella, but no, you ran into it.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he drove me into it and towards the wall.
Speaker 1:The worst thing my brother did. I didn't know Oreos had the cream filling until I was like 10.
Speaker 3:Oh no, Because you would eat all the cream filling. You just licked it and then gave it to me. He would give it to me.
Speaker 1:And then one day I got a package of my own and I was like what the heck, what the fuck, is this good stuff?
Speaker 3:They must have changed the recipe. Such an asshole it doesn't taste like my brother's spit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, such a dick.
Speaker 3:That's horrendous. Oh, it's awful, jesus.
Speaker 2:That one wins.
Speaker 1:That one wins Such an asshole move Pretty bad, but siblings huh, wow, how fun, aren't they fun?
Speaker 2:How fun Aren't they fun. How fun Aren't they fun. We all still have our eyeballs. That's good I think we're doing all right.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, let's move on, speaking of science. So 23andMe, this is obviously a large database where people put in their DNA and they believe it to be secured. However, people are now wanting to delete this, their data, which, again, it's not going to be deleted. It is there. It is permanent. You have given your DNA to a corporation. They are concerned because 23andMe is going to file for bankruptcy. Oh, and when they file for bankruptcy, all of the contracts that you signed where it's like we're not going to sell your shit, we don't care, it's going to be moot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And 15 million people have now tried to remove their data, causing 23andMe's website to crash Wow, Right in the nick of time. So they can't delete it and they're worried it's going to be sold to a hedge fund or a public traded company and because of that, all of their DNA would be fair game for anyone to use. And I don't know. To me it just seems very, very bizarre.
Speaker 2:It is really that's pretty sketchy. I mean, I think I would have asked what you do with the DNA anyway when you hand it over. I've never done the 23andMe, but I feel like I was already wondering, like I wonder what they do with it. What do they do with it?
Speaker 1:My brother did it and I found out I'm 15% Ashkenazi Jew.
Speaker 2:Right, but after you find out all those fun things, Nothing. Then what do they do with it?
Speaker 1:There's, I am. You know, knowing your past doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2:Does it. I don't care. There is no day but today.
Speaker 1:There is no day but today, but it's just so funny. There was one thing Gates, this professor, he does this ancestry show on PBS and he had a gal on and this gal is in many ways right but in some ways a little bit extreme, but she's very anti-white people. Oh, I saw this, but then it turns out that her great grandparents came over on the Mayflower Um, so she was like, actually part of her family slave owners uh, they were slave owners.
Speaker 1:So then that really changed her perspective. She's like oh, shoot Now, but I don't know.
Speaker 3:But, she tried to like go past it real quick. She's like, oh, that's crazy to know. What else am I?
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Why?
Speaker 1:But it's just weird that people like retroactively will be like I'm 20% Italian, but they just found out on Wednesday.
Speaker 3:And then they start saying mozzarella.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're like, I think I know a thing or two because I'm Italian.
Speaker 3:It's like you weren to latch on to now yeah, like, oh, that's my identity now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, just imagine if I just started wearing like a yarmulke we know someone like that, don't we kyle? Oh, do you guys know someone like that someone?
Speaker 2:who takes on different personalities for a couple months at a time and really involves himself in them oh boy, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah totally.
Speaker 1:Everyone has a friend like that. Everyone has a friend like that.
Speaker 2:Everyone has a friend like that. Everyone has a friend that just found out they were like 5% African American and then they're like you know what that means, right?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:No, you still can't idiot.
Speaker 3:I always felt it when I walked on the bare ground.
Speaker 2:You're an idiot.
Speaker 1:He's trying to get the N-word passed. Yep, oh, 23andme says that icon. Kind of Right, right, anyway. So people are now trying to delete their data and permanently do that. However, again customers are having a difficult time because the website continues to crash. Wow, yes, customers, it costs about 200 bucks. You give your saliva and then you can find out your history. I understand it from the perspective maybe if you were adopted or, like you, really don't know your family history. For me, the reason I'm 15% Ashkenazi Jew is actually kind of interesting, because my grandfather, who was in Germany during World War II and did what he had to do, his father was Jewish, yeah, and his father had to flee Germany during the beginning of the war, so he never knew his father and they always had a different relationship. And then it were really my grandfather held on to a little bit of contempt towards him.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But that's why we're 15% Jewish.
Speaker 3:Nice. My uncle found out, like five years ago doing one of these tests, that his sister was his mother and his mother was his grandmother, and they lied about his name on his birth certificate. His name is Gabriel.
Speaker 2:Is that your?
Speaker 3:family, but his name's Mark. It's always been Mark since we've ever known, and so now he just walks around calling himself Gabe the Babe.
Speaker 1:I mean, you get a nice nickname out of it. Yeah, not Mark the Nark.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so fun, kyle, your family's kind of legendary.
Speaker 3:I know it's crazy, it's wild yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know a lot about my. I have like a very split lineage, and then, like I don't know any of like my real grandfathers, and then it's like my Dominican grandfather, like we suspect that he may have been Turkish. And then it's like my Dominican grandfather like we suspect that he may have been Turkish, and then my Paraguayan grandfather might've been half Italian, and it's just you know what?
Speaker 1:for some reason, I think they were, they were dashing.
Speaker 2:They were probably. Yeah, they dashed right the fuck out of it.
Speaker 1:That is correct.
Speaker 2:But I think they look good doing it.
Speaker 1:There was a massive data breach with 23andMe. Anyway, there was a massive data breach with 23andMe, which is why, where 30 million people had their data breached, fucked with, or had their data fucked with, or 7 million, I'm sorry, had their information stolen, and so that's why the company is now going bankrupt and who knows where that data is going to end up. It's just a little scary and technically, I guess my DNA is already in there, because my brother did it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, actually you're not going to have the same results as your brother, would they give you a?
Speaker 3:point score. Yeah, but this is how they find criminals. Well, they'll go into the system and they'll find like oh, someone's cousin just did this.
Speaker 1:Right and so they start narrowing it down, Like Jupiter Joe we talked about that Jupiter Joe and, of course, I think, most famously the rapist, the horrible Gilgo Beach no, one of the worst murderer rapists in the history of the country, living in San Francisco. Oh, the chat will know. Yeah, yeah, somebody answer that question please.
Speaker 3:Oh, the Golden Gate, golden Bridge, golden Gate Killer, golden State.
Speaker 1:Killer Golden State Killer.
Speaker 2:Golden State Killer.
Speaker 1:Yes, they got him and he was like super old and he was all grumpy and he's like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:I got away with it. Nice, Jeff got it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I guess that's good that they got him, but also like, don't get me for tax evasion, right, you know that's off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would suck. No, the IRS is too backed up with other things. I hope so, yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, well, just lastly on a nice story and also kind of an update Scott Peterson we mentioned this before and I am telling you guys this is going to be interesting there might be. Is he going to get out? Is he going to get out, maybe not alive? I don't think so, man, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I don't think there's any way he's beating this.
Speaker 1:Also, we're going to keep you up to date. We're doing Selena on this week's Death and Entertainment, so we will keep you up to date on Yolanda out. That's like five days away from our parole board hearing prison inmate charles miles. Uh, he beat the hell out of scott peterson and again it was over pickable yeah, these guys are competitive yeah, he said he went into attack mode after scott rammed into him during a game of pickleball okay.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you're not. That's not a contact sport, it it's not.
Speaker 1:He says, scott aggressively sprinted at him with his paddle. Wow, should these guys have the paddle.
Speaker 2:Isn't that an easy shake. They should not have the paddle. Yeah, they could easily break it in half. I imagine them ripping it over their leg, all karate-like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you really can't make a shank out of a basketball or a soccer ball, but a paddle, but a paddle.
Speaker 2:You can, totally. You can also, you know, just turn it over and just like beat the shit out of someone with it.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what happened, clock him in the eye. So apparently Scott Peterson was just running all crazy with the paddle. Yeah, he made no effort to avoid him. And then Charles, he says he got all pissed off. So he says he beat him. He beat him to the ground, beat the hell out of him. Charles says there was a bit of a struggle, struggle. But once he over overpowered scott, he climbed on him and just started punching him I hope.
Speaker 3:I hope the attack was like beer fest, because there's a character in there where he's like, uh, reminiscing, he's like upset, because he's like I got a paddle shoved up my ass and I was like I'm so sorry. I'd be upset too if I got a handle shoved up my ass. He goes. It wasn't the handle oh mama I've been shitting pancakes ever since. That's's what it is so funny.
Speaker 2:It's more like waffles in this case. Right, they have the press on.
Speaker 1:Despite the fight, charles and Scott, they say they're okay, they're a-okay with one another, they're friends again.
Speaker 2:They're good. Oh, they already squashed it.
Speaker 1:They squashed the pickleball beef.
Speaker 2:That's good.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's good when you make stab.
Speaker 2:There's just a little. I beat the hell out of you, you beat the hell out of me and I beat you up some more Settle it on the court, not in the court.
Speaker 3:Okay, fine, settle it. No, I'm saying in the court system. You gotta settle on the pickleball court Got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:What's interesting is Charles. He wants to be on good terms with Scott because apparently Scott Peterson has a bunch of money. And he says that because he has so much money he can pay fellow inmates to gang up on him. So Charles says it's best just to be friends.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess Scott Peterson's. I don't know. I guess he's got a bunch of cash.
Speaker 2:But he's paying people to beat him up.
Speaker 1:He could. He says but why? Because they're pickleball feud. You don't get in the way of a pickleball feud.
Speaker 2:Oh, he could get other people. He could get people to beat the other guy up for him.
Speaker 1:Scott could get people to beat Charles up.
Speaker 2:Right right, right right.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. I thought you said he could get him to beat people like himself up.
Speaker 1:Nope, charles said he has apologized and you know what he blamed.
Speaker 2:His quote primal urge. Oh Well, that's Pretty. I feel like that's pretty spot on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe Charles needs to stay In jail too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's kind of scary.
Speaker 2:He can't. He can't fight the primal urge.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh, I see he was. What was? No, no, that's what he, that's what Scott was convicted Again killing, killing a woman.
Speaker 2:Lazy Peterson, unborn child. Yeah, yeah, lazy Peterson.
Speaker 1:Unborn child. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, he does say that Scott has been trying to convince him of his innocence.
Speaker 2:Ridiculous. Scott has said he's innocent this entire time. Ridiculous.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, there you go. Just a little update on Scott Peterson.
Speaker 2:So he's having fun.
Speaker 1:He is indeed having fun. We're going to be back on Thursday.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Do we have any comments from the chat?
Speaker 3:Yes, erica Davis said Patton Oswalt's wife helped find the Golden State Killer. That's right. She did suggest it to the Diepod in about 2022, so we are going to do that for you soon.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of theories there too on Patton Oswalt, which we may or may not get into.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I met him once.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he brought me on stage on the Comedians of Comedy Tour in 2007.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's a nice guy, nice guy. I mean, you know it's just there's different people for everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Anything else. Vanessa said, man, my siblings were too old for her to fight them. She didn't get to have it. She didn't have a chance to have that much fun.
Speaker 1:No, that's not fun. These are fun memories. My brother also used to cut all of the fingers off of my action figures. Just psychotic.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. My brother used to use all of my stuffed animals to wrestle with and then he was constantly breaking them and I was patching them up all the time. And I'm wrestling my bears. This is getting me really anxious, just thinking about it right now. I see the lint everywhere, the stuffing, just everywhere.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget I wanted to go play Batman. I had a whole scenario in my head. It was massive, and then they had no hands. I was like I'm not playing with handless Batman. How can he grab his utility?
Speaker 2:belt, it's the weirdest thing.
Speaker 1:My brother is such a fucking psycho. He would also trim the whiskers on his cat and in hindsight that's torture.
Speaker 3:That's not good yeah, I know You're supposed to feel it.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know Trust me.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God, that's terrible.
Speaker 2:He's like I just think it looks better this way. It's like oh my God, you're fucking. Oh God, yeah, the whisker is super important. Yeah, I know, I've seen him hit walls with his face.
Speaker 3:Anything else. Kyle, vanessa said so. Who gets the robot after he dies? Panell responded Vanessa. That's a sitcom pitch in the making. My mom, the AI. Oh, honestly.
Speaker 1:That is it's going to happen. I was just speaking with our friends Daniel, who we used to record the show with yes yes and Blake, great guys. They just worked on a movie called AI with Love, which is actually similar to that premise Sounds very similar. So, yep, you just made that a television show, probably starring Tim Allen as we speak. Oh, all right, everyone, thank you for listening. Okbudpod at gmailcom. Shoot us an email and patreoncom slash diebud. All right, everyone, hail yourself.