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Episode 39: When Vigilante Justice Goes Right but Everything Else Goes Wrong

Ben Kissel, Jerii Aquino and Kyle Ploof

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Luigi Mangione has become a cultural phenomenon, striking a chord with Americans fed up with the healthcare system. After murdering a UnitedHealthcare CEO, his interaction with a McDonald's employee—who called police hoping for a reward but dialed the wrong number—has sparked controversy. Mangione fans are now leaving one-star reviews at the Altoona McDonald's and sending threatening messages to the cashier, raising serious questions about vigilante justice and cult-like fandom.

Meanwhile, Tesla's humanoid robots made their White House debut, complete with Richard Nixon-style gestures. This unsettling development comes as Bill Gates predicts most humans will be "unnecessary" within a decade thanks to AI advancements. The hosts explore the contradiction of fearing these technologies while simultaneously inviting surveillance into our homes through countless smart devices. As one host points out, "They can't get in unless we let them in"—but we're already doing exactly that.

The conversation shifts to the Gilgo Beach serial killer case, where Rex Heuermann murdered women for nearly 20 years while corrupt officials derailed investigations. A Netflix documentary reveals how Suffolk County's police commissioner and district attorney—both now convicted felons—were more concerned with covering up a stolen "dildo and porn stash" scandal than solving murders. This institutional failure allowed a predator to operate in plain sight, with neighbors later admitting they always found him creepy.

The podcast wraps with two contrasting tales: a father with facial tattoos who rescued his daughter after 25 days in captivity when authorities wouldn't help, only to face further trauma at the hospital; and a Chinese couple's flirtatious game that ended in the emergency room when the husband's jaw locked with his wife's hand in his mouth. 

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Speaker 1:

Way be great. Hey, what's up everyone? Welcome to OK Bud, the podcast where everything's gonna be OK Bud. I'm Ben Kissel on Instagram at Ben Kissel 1, joined by Jerry Aquino. Hello and Miss underscore, Jerry. That's J-E-R-I-I and Kyle Plouffe hey, At Kyle Plouffe, Check out our Patreon, patreoncom. Slash diebud. Watch every episode live and contribute to the show. You can also hear slurs that Jerry and Kyle say before the show begins.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, I'm not the one that said the words. Coke crumbs Okay, fantastic. Also, feel free to shoot us an email okbudpod at gmailcom.

Speaker 1:

Share pictures of your pets, your bullies or your defensive PETA.

Speaker 3:

Whatever you want to do, we are here, man, we have upset the PETA cult, that's all right, the PETA files will be just fine.

Speaker 1:

Let's take care of animals the best we can Absolutely, and I'm sure there's good-hearted people all around the world Peeta people, non-peeta people, all peoples. Let's just care for animals, please. And each other Speaking of animals, luigi Mangione. Yeah, what a sexy beast he is.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

There's some new stories coming out about his interaction with the McDonald's employee that ended up calling the police on him in order to receive a bit of money from the law enforcement, which they never did receive because they called the wrong number.

Speaker 3:

Oh, so no, so it doesn't count anymore.

Speaker 1:

No, because they called 911. They didn't call the 1-800-I'm-a-snitch line.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

So my question here is, after we listened to some of the dialogue, that apparently Luigi Mangione. What else is his?

Speaker 2:

name Kyle. Oh Squeegee, Manjusami, yes, Squeegee.

Speaker 3:

Manjusami yes, the one that came directly out of Kyle's heart, yeah, Apparently, this is what he told the McDonald's employee.

Speaker 1:

He says I apologize for the inconvenience of the day. So he's like I'm sorry. Yeah, I killed a CEO. Came in here for a hash brown, sorry, I inconvenienced you in any way? Yeah. Then he says if you call the police, it's not going to be good for you. He said what? They aren't going to put the cashier from cashier from McDonald's information out. There are they. That's what he asked. And then he says it wouldn't be good for her. A lot of people would be upset. I was arrested, what so it?

Speaker 1:

shows a bit of self-awareness about the fame, the clout the street cred that he was gaining while he was on the run.

Speaker 3:

It was weird Like did he already so he hadn't gotten caught when he said that he had gotten caught. He was saying that in the interview room.

Speaker 1:

He was speaking that to law enforcement.

Speaker 3:

Wow, that is a threat if I've ever heard one.

Speaker 1:

He knew he was famous.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And now we wonder is the cashier for McDonald's? Are the people who stan Mangione? Are they going to come after her? Which I say don't do that, because she's just a McDonald's employee.

Speaker 3:

She's just a McDonald's employee. I don't, I don't, I'm not going to do that to her either.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I don't know who she is and I also won't be doing any heavier research to find out. It is what it is. He's also already behind bars.

Speaker 2:

Right, she's clearly not a stangione.

Speaker 1:

No, she is not, not whatsoever. Or maybe she does like him and she knew the best way to get him is, if he's incarcerated, limited female options. Next thing you know she's the best he can get. Ooh, although I don't think that's the case because, he getting sent like a lot of wet panties and stuff, and then the prison guards are like we can't give these to him, and then they wear them and stuff.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, hear me out A rom-com starting with the same premise. There's someone on the run goes to McDonald's. At first she stitches on him, tries to get some money. It doesn't work. They become enemies, battling each other. But they fall in love.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that would be fantastic yeah.

Speaker 2:

It already is in a small town. So that's what all the Hallmark movies are, yeah totally, that's true Hallmark movies.

Speaker 1:

A horrible message, by the way.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, seriously, Aren't they all like move out of the city, go back to your hometown?

Speaker 1:

Yes, and the problem is they never make the boyfriend of the girl that's going back to the small town bad enough for her to break up with. And then she goes and she meets some farmer who's got a big ding-dong and then she's like, oh gosh, I need that girth Old lawyer, Steve doesn't have girth like that. And then she stays on the farm. But she needs to be in a horrible relationship.

Speaker 1:

And then, when she goes back to the small town and she gets rescued by Earl who, yes, he voted for Trump, but he's a good guy, he's a good guy. Then it makes more sense.

Speaker 3:

Family matters to him.

Speaker 1:

Exactly so. This was a letter to Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Gregory Caro. This is what they say. They say this is the very opposite of someone who is seeking to terrorize anyone or wishing harm or violence to anyone. So they're saying this proves that Mangione is super nice. And what he's saying is leave this McDonald's worker alone, although, again, as Kyle said, it does seem like it could be seen. It's a threat.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think it was. I think it kind of was, he was like, hey, no, she's, she's all right, we're not going to release her information, right? Because if we did, it wouldn't be good for her.

Speaker 1:

It would not be good for her and that's scary, she's probably a little scared right now.

Speaker 3:

That's probably, and she's because he's right. It would not be good for her.

Speaker 1:

Prosecutors accused Mangiotti of Mangioni.

Speaker 3:

Mangiotis.

Speaker 1:

Mangiotis Ooh, that Mangiotis. Perfect for the breakfast, the breakfast of murderers.

Speaker 2:

Sugar-coated Mangiotis.

Speaker 1:

You know, when you wake up in the morning and you're all groggy. But you got to go kill a CEO.

Speaker 3:

That's Mangiotis Good.

Speaker 1:

They say they're worried that Mangione is leading a campaign of harassment, backlash and death threats towards anyone that has gone against him. This is what they say. They say there is simply now. However, his defense team says there is simply no evidence that Mr Mangione is responsible for any of these threats, directly, indirectly or in any manner. Mr Mangione has been nothing but cooperative, peaceful and has shown concern for others.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But this is where, as we all know, when fans take it upon themselves because they think, oh Lord Mangione will be happy if I go kill this person, things can get out of hand.

Speaker 3:

It's so true. Everyone gets. What's that word? What's the super fan, super fan crazy shit, I don't know. I think that's so true. Everyone gets. What's that word? What's the superfan, superfan crazy shit, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think that's about it Right. Yeah, I mean, look at what's happening right now with the perhaps release of Yolanda, the woman who killed Selena.

Speaker 3:

Ooh, oh, don't even. Okay. Well, she deserves all that shit.

Speaker 1:

Yep. So Mangione says he hopes everyone is civilized towards the cashier. Mangione says he hopes everyone is civilized towards the cashier and he has nothing wrong to say about her. One crazed Mangione supporter said To the stupid bitch that ratted out my baby, Luigi Mangione, Holy shit you will be dealt with.

Speaker 3:

Who the hell said that?

Speaker 1:

A Mangione fan of Stan Gioni.

Speaker 3:

That's insane. Yeah, see, that's the problem. That is the problem with super fandom.

Speaker 1:

They go pretty nuts. Yeah, mangione killed the CEO of a corrupt healthcare company. You can't then just go kill a McDonald's employee who technically, was probably a little scared.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and also kind of wanted some money.

Speaker 1:

Maybe wanted some money and again dialed the wrong number.

Speaker 2:

They should be bringing up a debate of whether or not McDonald's employees are paid enough, because if they want to, if she was comfortable, she wouldn't have to turn them in.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wasn't that like a whole argument that happened a couple years back and now the minimum wage is like $16 an hour for McDonald's employees.

Speaker 2:

Well, I think in California, but I don't know about Township Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, in California, and then that's just raised all the food costs and then they say, oh, we can't afford any more employees. And then everything's being automated. So people are getting out of work, leading to the job crisis that we currently have.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Isn't that interesting how the corporations always win. Yes, so, apparently the McDonald's store has been receiving review bombs so people are like that McDonald's. That Big Mac stunk. Yeah, don't go there for chicken nuggets. Those chicken nuggets more like chicken slug slug. They're bad.

Speaker 3:

Chicken snitches.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so one star review. This is the Altoona McDonald's. One person gave it a one star. Can you imagine that McDonald's the best of the best of the best.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean. What is anyone rating McDonald's for? We all know what it is. We all know how we all feel about it.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to yell at McDonald's You're either for it or you're against it.

Speaker 3:

You stay away from it or you understand that it's there for you at 3 o'clock in the morning, when you're really drunk, you at three o'clock in the morning, when you're really drunk, that's fine McDonald's.

Speaker 1:

No one's there, no one's for or against it. Mcdonald's is. I'm very Buddhist about McDonald's and sometimes in a pinch, you're driving on the highway, it's been four hours, your eyes are watery, you see that golden arch and you're like, oh man, that's it.

Speaker 2:

Every McDonald's is the same. All the food is the same. The only thing that's different are the varying levels of employees, showing you how much they don't give a fuck about you.

Speaker 1:

Literally yeah totally, and my favorite employee that sucks is the one that actually is good to the customer where they just like. Here you go.

Speaker 3:

Yeah his extra. Yeah, they're like. I hate my job. You get two extra nuggets. You get an extra fries. Oh, I love it. Then all of a sudden, there's a little, if they have.

Speaker 1:

They have onion rings. There's an onion ring in there and it's just a great shit show.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, one person they gave a one-star review of McDonald's and then negative comments, but they were quickly removed by Google. One fanatical follower they sent a support in a heart-shaped letter, and this is interesting. So it says Luigi, we are rooting for you, keep your held head held high and know there are thousands of people wishing you luck. And that was nice, because that letter came in the form of a heart. Oh, so that was that's kind of where the where he was aiming at, the ceo.

Speaker 3:

That is fantastic yeah.

Speaker 1:

so anyway, if you are a stangione, do as Luigi says don't attack the McDonald's employee. No, Don't attack the McDonald's employee If you leave a one star at the end, I'll tune a McDonald's. I think they'll be able to handle it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that one should be fine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Leave your one star reviews.

Speaker 2:

That's fine. Yeah, yeah, because the people writing the reviews, that's one thing, but who's reading the reviews? Like, am I going to go to this one?

Speaker 3:

Right, right. I wonder what the service and the cuisine level is here. They're like. If you come here, ask for Martha, she is the best.

Speaker 1:

The best. Anyway, that trial again, it's set to start later this year and I am sure it will be a media storm.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, oh, yeah, oh man.

Speaker 1:

And we'll see Kind of can't wait, I mean if they can do what OJ Simpson was able to do and flip it and put the LAPD on the stand in this case put UnitedHealthcare on the stand and just say this is how bad this company is. People forget Mangione was even a murderer. Who knows? Yeah, I mean, everybody has been screwed at how bad this company is People forget Mangione was even a murderer, who knows? Yeah, yeah, I mean, everybody has been screwed at some point by health insurance.

Speaker 3:

It's very true. I think that's why I think that's what started his like, like ability to begin with, exactly, aside from the fact that he's hot.

Speaker 1:

That didn't hurt If he was like super dumpy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, If he was like. I like him, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:

No, don't give women that much credit, you would not like him, we love Tom. Hanks. Tom Hanks is very attractive.

Speaker 3:

He's cute, he's fine, exactly.

Speaker 1:

What about Lou Pearlman? Oh God.

Speaker 2:

He molested all the Backstreet Boys.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that guy Okay.

Speaker 2:

Very fat. He was Weinstein before Weinstein Just a giant guy.

Speaker 1:

If you looked like Lou Pearlman and he was all fat and looked like the South Park character, that was the gamer that had as much as it's all over his face and tries to beat the boys in World of Warcraft.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nobody would have cared.

Speaker 3:

No one, Everyone would have been like ah Sucks.

Speaker 2:

I'm not changing his bedpan, oh my.

Speaker 3:

God, no heart-shaped letters for you.

Speaker 1:

No heart-shaped letters.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Nothing. So Luigi is very lucky, but beauty fades, mr Mangione.

Speaker 3:

It does.

Speaker 1:

Although I don't know, he might be attractive forever Bastard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jeff is saying what about a Steve Buscemi type guy Now?

Speaker 3:

Steve Buscemi I don't know, we found our way to love him too.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that is true. And Buscemi, I have so much respect for him. First of all, firefighter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Volunteer, volunteer firefighter. They're on 9-11. Amazing. Can you imagine being saved by Steve Buscemi? That'd be crazy.

Speaker 3:

You'd be like I was for sure, hallucinating. I could have sworn. Steve Buscemi saved my life. That's how bad it was out there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, is this heaven? Oh, steve, you want me a sausage? Mcmuffin. He says that in a film as he's going down a hill on rollerblades.

Speaker 2:

I believe it is. Wow, it's very, very funny.

Speaker 1:

Steve Buscemi also Hollywood said fix your teeth, and he said no. He said fuck you, no. They also told him to change his last name. He said no, no. And now look at him he's perfect because he's not perfect.

Speaker 3:

Yep, that's true. No one can replace him.

Speaker 1:

Isn't that the message? We're perfect because we're not perfect.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I love that I should be a priest Well.

Speaker 1:

Get over here, kids priest outfits in my size.

Speaker 3:

That's so true, you'd have to have it like really tailored for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And that white collar thing around your neck.

Speaker 2:

You'd have to be like brother Ben, cause they have, like the, like the monk outfit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, did you just call him friar Ben.

Speaker 2:

Friar.

Speaker 1:

Ben Deep, deep friar, ben. All right. Well, let's move on to the future. That is now that is held. Yep the robots oh, they have decided to visit the White House.

Speaker 3:

Again.

Speaker 1:

And so why is Elon Musk so powerful and why is he sucking all over Donnie's nips? It's because the government's going to, and will continue to, give Tesla a boatload of money when it comes to their new humanoid robots. Two Tesla robots have appeared on Capitol Hill Wow, and they were there, to the applause of many.

Speaker 2:

Vote or die.

Speaker 1:

Of course, these robots, within five to ten years, will be very common in homes. As a matter of fact, bill gates says the majority of human beings will no longer be needed in about 10 years because of the humanoid robots, which are already unbelievably agile and, for all intents and purposes, intelligent yeah, people get so scared about these things because I'm scared of these things they're like you're welcoming this into your house and it's filming the inside of your house, so it's going to send back all the appliances.

Speaker 2:

you have all the actual, you know brand names of everything.

Speaker 1:

Well, next thing, you know, it's molesting the microwave. Now I've got myself a little toaster because he fucking knocked up my wave, and then boom, and from there it's a goddamn nightmare.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but anyone who's ever had an Oculus or a Met mask, it's already done that. It's already mapped your entire house.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, isn't it also in all of the cameras of our phones, our computers?

Speaker 1:

our televisions, our smart.

Speaker 3:

TVs, your security systems. It's already all recording.

Speaker 1:

The UK just unleashed their first facial recognition cameras as well, so it's here and, in my personal opinion, it's fucking awful Now. That being said, in some ways I understand robots speaking of 9-11.

Speaker 3:

would have been nice to have them oh, yeah, they could have gone up there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they could have done a lot they could have done a bunch yeah you know, and you can make one with all fucked up teeth so it looks like buscemi you could.

Speaker 3:

So I understand they can have a role in our society it's true, they can as far as uh humans useless way ahead of you. There, pal, you can replace me to do pretty much anything, and I already know that.

Speaker 1:

But they're going to come out with, like the Tesla, about 5,000 that's just there to get stoned on your couch and then you're going to be the one that cleans for it.

Speaker 3:

Exactly That'll be like the worst that happens. I'll be like, come on, it took my job.

Speaker 1:

It took my job.

Speaker 3:

It took my job, it took my purpose.

Speaker 1:

What was your job? Stoner trash.

Speaker 3:

It was really working out.

Speaker 1:

Two Tesla humanoid robots were at an event. Onlookers looked at them and said, oh my God, that's amazing. They waved their arms and held up their fingers and this is what is so disgusting Middle fingers. No, it's even worse. It's even worse, kyle. It's even worse than that. I would have loved the middle finger. It'd be like Stone Cold, steve Austin's programming these things. Who is going to be controlling the AI within the bots? It's going to be a bunch of fucking assholes. Why do I say that? One of the robots held a Richard Nixon-like two fingers pose. Remember when Richard Nixon was like I am not a crook. He did all this fucking shit. That's what the robot did. So these robots are currently acting like Richard Nixon, which is this is. Isn't that straight out of Futurama?

Speaker 2:

Don't they have Richard Nixon's head?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they do. Oh, my God, I'm going to have a heart attack.

Speaker 2:

Or it could be like a flight attendant. That's like pushing you that everybody this way to die. Yeah, because they do their little finger thing.

Speaker 1:

I need the flight attendants to also be concerned that the plane is going to crash. Otherwise, what's the point of them caring? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3:

They have to feel a sense of mortality along with us. They can't just be like machines just flying in the sky. No, the machine's like I'll be fine. Yeah, yeah, you're a fucking asshole. They're like sorry. Strategy says we should just dunk straight down into the water. Yeah, we should just dunk straight down into the water. Yeah, that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I can swim.

Speaker 1:

I only got scared one time on a flight and that is when I saw the flight attendant scared and I was like oh no.

Speaker 2:

Oh damn, that's not good, I'd rather see them scared than be like fucking let's go because they hate their job.

Speaker 3:

So much.

Speaker 2:

They's like I got good news, we're going down.

Speaker 1:

Well, if they start throwing all the food for free, Well that'd be nice, some Stroop waffles for you.

Speaker 3:

Oxygen mask drop down. You grab it if you want to keep going, but honestly it's probably going to get worse, so optional.

Speaker 1:

Optional. You know, Also, I'll take a little pass out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pass out before you fucking get horrifically destroyed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we used to play the pass out game growing up. It was kind of fun. Yeah, it didn't hurt my brain. No, no, no it didn't ruin all my fucking brain cells, I can tell. At one point a robot's arm swung out and hit the dividing rope, briefly sending a security guard to go scramble and fix it. So these things are out of control. Oh boy, it's out there drunk.

Speaker 3:

Why is it so? But you know it's not going to. How is it going to get into our house?

Speaker 1:

We're going to let it in.

Speaker 2:

Can't get it to open the door. Yes, the Amazon driver is going to drop it off. We're going to pay for it, literally.

Speaker 3:

Why would we? I don't want that in my house. I won't be buying one.

Speaker 1:

Who knows, they are going to be very, very common.

Speaker 3:

They're not like compost boxes that they just drop off at all of your doors and are like we recycle our compost. Now you know like we can't. They're not going to force all of us to have this robot.

Speaker 1:

Out of all the companies, obviously there's Boston Dynamics. We've talked a lot about that. Boston Dynamics has just been beating the shit out of their robots for 20 years, and so when these robots finally and they already have we're in Black Mirror, they can like you can't beat them up, you can't knock them down. These things are unreal Because they've just been getting beat up for 20 fucking years.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, god.

Speaker 1:

I mean, look what happened with Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3:

They're going to be amazing. Oh yeah, that's so true. Yeah, that really worked for him, didn't it? It really did, until it really didn't.

Speaker 1:

Well, he had some issues.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, he was stressed out Well who knows what these robots are going to fucking do once they get fucking stressed out.

Speaker 1:

So this is again why is Elon Musk ever wearing this unelected D-bag?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It is because he is going to be getting massive government contracts. And it looks like the first humanoids will be Tesla, which, if his cars are any indication of the quality of these machines, I just don't know if they're going to be any good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what do you have? To keep on fixing the?

Speaker 1:

fucking thing. Yeah, I'd be so annoyed if I oh can't go out. I got to fix my fucking sex bot. Anyway, yeah, you do. They say they're in a competition with China and they want to win that competition. It's sort of like the space race. Yeah, oh yeah, but with tech it's like a tech space race basically going on.

Speaker 3:

Tech race.

Speaker 1:

It's a tech race.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, they say, all the companies have shown tremendous ingenuity and we're pleased to highlight all their efforts. It's just the people that are going to be controlling these things. They're not going to be good people, nope, and that is what scares me, because technically they're just a utility. But again, who is the ones creating the product? So, anyway, tesla bots they're official, officially meeting with the president, and I have a feeling he's going to take their advice very seriously. Oh boy, yeah, anyone in the chat concerned about this?

Speaker 3:

Nobody's concerned about this, yet I think they're really hopped up about the McDonald's in Japan.

Speaker 1:

Yes, what are they talking about? Mcdonald's in Japan.

Speaker 3:

It's a really nice one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 3:

Amazing, amazing menu options and, to be fair, I was thinking about that too earlier. Where I'm like, mcdonald's is also like the Golden Arches. It's like a breath of air when you're like somewhere where you don't know how to get food if you're somewhere foreign.

Speaker 2:

You don't know what you want, yeah, but then I went to the one in the UK and it was gross. They didn't have honey mustard, they only had mayo. It was gross.

Speaker 3:

Ooh, british McDonald's huh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, dip your chicken nuggets into mayo. Yeah, that's what they do over there. No thanks, or a gravy.

Speaker 3:

That wouldn't be bad actually.

Speaker 1:

Cultural differences.

Speaker 3:

You know, I also love that.

Speaker 1:

You are such trash that you went overseas and you went to McDonald's.

Speaker 3:

Fuck, go overseas. Sometimes there's not a lot of options for you. I mean, god forbid.

Speaker 1:

You're like a gluten-free American or something, or vegan, or you don't like curry, but it's all there is. In town, you go to McDonald's. I don't want to receive a bunch of hate mail, but I'm just going to say this there's no such thing as a hungry person with a gluten allergy or a vegan. If you're hungry, you're a human. You're going to be like give me that fucking chicken right there. Give me the food. I'm going to kill everything to get that chicken. Yeah, but yes, obviously, in a perfect world we would like not to have to kill everything we see to eat it. Yeah, which most of the animals that we have now on earth? Because we've eradicated all of them. Most of them are just there for livestock. And then that's also the number one contributor to, like you know, some of the pollution problem, global problems.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

The environment yeah.

Speaker 1:

They're farting too much, but we need it for food.

Speaker 3:

We need real big old fat fucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense Vicious, vicious. But, but you know, McDonald's doesn't even know what it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know delicious maybe it's.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing, it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, let me not have mcdonald's come, come and beat us up in one week, right after peter well, all I know is, when it comes to the tesla robots being at the white house, I'm not loving it. No I'm not no, speaking of fat fucks, let's move on. Oh to who? The gilgo beach killer, oh, what more you know? The gilgo beach killer, rex Hurman.

Speaker 2:

Hurman.

Speaker 1:

Hurman, hurman.

Speaker 2:

This is the guy he killed.

Speaker 1:

What was the total number?

Speaker 2:

Have they decided? They haven't decided yet. They're still connecting to a bunch of different cases.

Speaker 1:

This is an area, it's a landmass, and this is where a lot of women were dumped and authorities knew this is the dumping ground, but they didn't find this man for a long time. Wow, there is a new Netflix doc series called Gone Girls the Long Island Serial Killer. It covers the case of the Gilgo Beach killings, which went on from 1993 to 2011.

Speaker 3:

Wow, that's like a 20-year run. Yes, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

Usually I feel like serial killers tend to get caught a little sooner than that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But they went in and they spoke with Rex Heuermann's former neighbors. He is currently apparently he's been arrested for killing seven women, but again that number is likely to go up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it'll go up double digits for sure, yes, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

This is according to director Liz Garbus. She says when I learned he was arrested, I was honestly just shocked. I was relieved. She says I reached out to the family members of the victims who, for the first time in so long, had some hope of getting more answers in their case for justice. Apparently, as we learn more about him, his neighbors did think he was kind of creepy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah. Look at that face is terrifying. I can't imagine being one of those girls and having that to be the last face. I see this is awful. This is exactly who's in your nightmares.

Speaker 1:

It really is, and I believe he works in finance.

Speaker 3:

Wow, he was an architect or something, was he an?

Speaker 2:

architect An. Wow, he was an architect or something. Was he an architect, engineer An?

Speaker 3:

architect. Come on, people love architects. Don't give architects a bad name.

Speaker 2:

An architect of murder. Architectural consultant.

Speaker 1:

Wow, put a lid on it. What the fuck do you do? I'm an architectural consultant. You don't put walls there.

Speaker 3:

Thank you for your consultation.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no problem. Have you put a roof on that? I'm Rex Hurman, I think I know what.

Speaker 2:

I'm doing. He should have gotten in contact with the people who were building the buildings he was working on, because then he could have just buried them in cement in the foundation.

Speaker 1:

There was a person in Canada that was doing something similar, but with pots.

Speaker 3:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

Because, he was in charge of landscaping and he would kill somebody and then you'd put them in. It's not funny, I don't know why. It is a little silly. It's a little silly.

Speaker 2:

Punching someone into a pot.

Speaker 1:

Right, and then you put a flower on it and you'd be like look at that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Done.

Speaker 3:

Done and then it just reeks. Diy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then take it out. They're like, hey, there's a dead body in there.

Speaker 3:

It's just DIY body composting.

Speaker 1:

It must be weird knowing, as you, there was a serial killer I'm blanking on his name though, now where he knew where all the bodies were buried and stuff and he would drive by them like all the time. That must be strange.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that is weird, but that's all part of their psychotic process. Probably satisfying for him, like he said hi to them when he passed by all the time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yes, so he has pleaded not guilty. So this trial is also going to be one that we'll be watching today, watching this year, rather, and I want to just take a look at this fucking haircut and the fat fuck, oh God, he's terrifying. He is so terrifying and he's a big boy and, of course, mostly big boys are very good people but not in this case, Not in this case. Those eyes, man, dead eyes, yeah, architect eyes.

Speaker 3:

Architect, consultant eyes. Oh you're fucking worse.

Speaker 1:

God, that's horrible, you're going to want to put a bathroom on the second floor. I know whenever I go to my friend's house, I blow it up, so I usually like to go to the bathroom that's a little further away from people. It's true, we don't put a secluded bathroom in there. Maybe it's your problem, rex, you just shit a lot.

Speaker 2:

Smells like a dead person in there. Well, don't check it out, don't check it out.

Speaker 1:

That's the grave room. Oh, you didn't put a graveyard room in your new house and according to the Oscar-nominated director, again, of this new film, gone Girls.

Speaker 1:

They say I think that there were many in law enforcement who wanted to do right on this case, who felt maligned in the media in general because they felt there was a lot of blame going on the police force. Well, many people, specifically me, thought that it may have been a police officer doing it. That theory was very prominent because it's like again, how are all these? We have all of these bodies, yeah and no suspect. But obviously it was not again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So, they say we so well covered up. And why did he? Why was he so good? Because he had a dumping ground in one area that nobody checked for 20 years Yep.

Speaker 1:

So the Emmy-winning director is talking about some of the things that have been happening. They say there was a specific member of law enforcement that was getting shat on when it comes to the case and that was this fella, jimmy Burke. Now Jimmy Burke, they were a police commissioner and they went to federal prison for beating a crook who stole his dildo and porn stash and also got busted for soliciting sex in the Long Island Park. So that was like a lot of people were like that's the cop working on the case, someone who beat someone for stealing his dildo and porn stash.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah so there was a bit of corruption, or just downright stupidity, within the police force.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, just like there's some slacking off kind of thing going on.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so this is what the director says. When it comes to the police force, what we know now, when we look at the Suffolk County, is that there were two criminals running the place for a large part of the time in which this case should have been solved. There was DA Thomas Spoda, and then there was the aforementioned Jimmy Burke, both who are now convicted felons. Whoa, wow. So it's the cop, the DA and now the serial killer. They're all going to be in the same place. Jesus, talk about a sitcom.

Speaker 3:

That would suck. Passing by each other in the hall is going to be awkward Lunchroom, cafeteria shit, especially just anyone in the DA and just being in prison, that's scary.

Speaker 1:

Right, and so why wasn't this case being solved? Well, spoda again, the former DA from 2002 to 2017, he was found guilty of obstructing a federal probe into Burke. Wait what?

Speaker 2:

Well, there was a probe into Burke. He probed Burke, it was his dildo.

Speaker 1:

No. So Burke beat up someone for stealing his dildo and porn stash and then the DA was like we're not looking into it. So then the DA got five years. This is fucking ridiculous. Wow, oh, anyway, gar. Oh anyway Garbus. The director says there are plenty of good folks in law enforcement and I was able to talk with some of them as well. Oh my God. But Burke and Spoda, these two guys are apparently one of the main reasons why more women were killed because they were too busy covering up their dildo crime.

Speaker 3:

What is happening, guys? Guys, come on focus. Please steal each other's dildos.

Speaker 2:

Oh my Lord, imagine if the dildo he was saying was stolen was just a standard issued baton. But he's like someone stole my baton. I named it Billy. Billy likes the butthole. There's just a cock on the end of it.

Speaker 3:

A little mushroom tip.

Speaker 1:

Oh my Lord, why is your?

Speaker 3:

baton ribbed.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, so this documentary seems to be fairly it's going to be, I think, fairly interesting.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I'm going to watch this.

Speaker 1:

According to Garbus. They say it's striking. Many of his neighbors were not surprised, which is interesting because, as we've talked about many times, a serial killer gets caught. They're like Leroy did did that, he was so nice, yeah, I'm happy when it's just like yeah, that makes sense, that checks out yeah, I know, right that was.

Speaker 3:

And then you have all these people that are like I always knew that guy was fucking weird. I told you, I told you to stay away from him right.

Speaker 2:

It's crazy he made so much money, he was, you know, in a high-powered profession and he just lived in this creepy old little shack like evidently, he and his wife.

Speaker 1:

They wanted to live off the grid oh, I think that was his idea yes yes, yes um, but he did have neighbors. According to uh the documentarian, they say his house was in an, in an area where people are really house proud. So people are like insecure, basically yeah, and they want to be like look, we're doing so good, I got a house.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Right, but his house was all nasty. They say that kids would cross the street when they were going trick or treating, as they were weirded out by the people who lived in Hureman's home, which of course was he and his wife. So that was the house you don't go to.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's good. They followed their instincts really well there, because who knows if you'd have come back out?

Speaker 2:

People had to have heard something, because he built a torture room in his basement that was hidden from his family. They didn't even know about it.

Speaker 1:

And it had a drain where all the blood would go down and everything. What? Yeah, oh my god. I've talked about this for years. If there is a room in your house that you're not allowed to go into, it's a murder it's a murder, it's for sure a murder room, even if you're unless it's your parents sex dungeon. Well, that's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, that's, you still should be allowed to check it out. I guess that's different.

Speaker 3:

Yes.

Speaker 1:

But how many parents have sex dungeons?

Speaker 3:

Well, we don't know that now do we?

Speaker 1:

We're not allowed in there, right?

Speaker 2:

No, all right.

Speaker 1:

That's true. Yeah, now I don't want to do that. I don't want to go into that room.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

But that's why, if the parents are smart, they leave it unlocked and then when you go into it, then they look at you and are like are you happy? You saw that now. Yeah, yeah mom likes to pretend she's Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my parents used to leave Christmas presents in the closets that were openly accessible, that I would never open and I would never find them. Yep, yes indeed.

Speaker 1:

Yes indeed.

Speaker 3:

Pretty easy to fool Kyle.

Speaker 1:

Yes, let's move on to another story. This is I'm almost going to make this guy butt of the week. Oh, Almost going to make this A person. A person, but also an idea. The dad and that idea is vigilante justice. Oh, Gotcha Valentin is suing a hospital because they say they abused his daughter after she was rescued from a 25-day nightmare. Do?

Speaker 1:

you guys remember this case at all? Yes, no. So this young girl, she was taken for 25 days. Her father goes, fully omniscient, breaks down the door, grabs her. She is on. I mean, she's been drugged, she's out of it and she has's been drugged. She's, you know, out of it and she has been, you know, raped many times. Absolutely horrible. Yeah, okay, he gets her, he brings her to the hospital and then he claims at the hospital she was sexually abused again. What? Just absolutely horrible.

Speaker 1:

And this man he really is. No one was helping him get his daughter. They're maybe not of the greatest economic means, he's all tatted up. Maybe cops didn't take him seriously, whatever it is. But they say that an employee quote got handsy with the teen and groped her at the hospital after, again, she endured 25 days of horrific abuse. Oh my God. Yeah, they say that they have assured him that the abuse was being addressed and that the individual would not pose any further risk to his daughter. This poor guy. He's got tattoos all over his face. Again, you can see that maybe, if he walks in, he's got a diamond on his cheek, for example.

Speaker 3:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Maybe if he walks into law enforcement he's like my daughter's been taken. I could see them being like probably one of your friends.

Speaker 3:

Right yeah, you know who cares.

Speaker 1:

Weirdo, get out of here.

Speaker 3:

He could also just own a tattoo shop. Yeah, who cares?

Speaker 1:

right yeah, who cares right it?

Speaker 3:

doesn't matter. But I'm saying, I just feel like yeah, it's why he's not very believed or taken seriously.

Speaker 1:

It's why he had to go and do it himself.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1:

So he's suing the hospital and I just hope that they get money or something.

Speaker 2:

This poor girl though my God, yeah, this is all the people. There's 13 people that have been arrested for it.

Speaker 1:

Yes, 13 people that have been arrested for it. Yes, 13 people that have been arrested, and it looks like one of the billboards anti-crystal meth. Anti-crystal meth billboards. Jesus, they all have sunken cheeks.

Speaker 2:

They're just hideous.

Speaker 1:

That's so weird.

Speaker 2:

This is the worst Brady Bunch layout I've ever seen.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I will give them some credit. Diverse, right, right. So they're not racist, they're rapists.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So she had been rescued by her dad from a docked boat.

Speaker 3:

What yes?

Speaker 1:

After he got a tip that she was there. Wow.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, a tip from who, though? This case is going to be wild, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like how the hell did he find?

Speaker 1:

out Really True. Out really true. I so, however, her her ordeal continued when state mental health worker dashawn mclean allegedly molested and groped her.

Speaker 3:

Oh my god, anyway hasn't she been through enough?

Speaker 1:

please, god, leave this girl alone. She's 15 fucking years old. Yeah, anyway, I want justice for this entire family. And you're right, it reads like a Hollywood movie, but unfortunately it's real. Christopher Ross, the attorney for the fella. He has not replied for a request for comment. At least 13 people have been arrested so far. Authorities say it revolved around a drug and sex trafficking ring and obviously the girl was there for 25 days on a boat. And again, if you want to take a look at the 13 people, holy shit, what a bunch of losers.

Speaker 2:

I don't even know how any of those people had a boat.

Speaker 3:

So true.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't even how'd they all meet.

Speaker 3:

Right, this is a really, really bad high school club.

Speaker 1:

Yes, what do you do after school? Well, you know, kidnapping Sex ring. Oh, anyway, that's that story. So Bud of the Week, vigilant. No, it doesn't really read like Bud of the Week.

Speaker 3:

I mean it could be. Yeah, I was like who's Bud of the Week. I got it Well not the.

Speaker 1:

This is the boat.

Speaker 3:

She was rescued on the boat that's not the boat of the week.

Speaker 1:

No, it's not the boat of the week, it's a bad boat.

Speaker 3:

The father was the Bud of the Week, the father's the Bud of the Week, but then also does he want Lifetime Really?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, I don't know If any good came out of it. It's like, at least you know your dad loves you yeah. You know, because no one else seemed to care.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no one else was telling you it stinks, because the movie title my Father the Hero is already taken by Gerard Depardieu.

Speaker 1:

Oh, he's on trial right now too. Yeah, wow, oh boy, you know what I got? Another butt of the week. We're doing butt of the week, and this butt of the week is an idea called flirting with your significant other. But sometimes it goes wrong.

Speaker 3:

Oh, oh.

Speaker 1:

So this is the last story of the day. It's a humiliating moment. A distressed man was rushed to the emergency room after his wife's hand got stuck in his mouth Isn't?

Speaker 3:

that funny, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Stuck in his mouth. Isn't that funny, oh my God, yeah, stuck in his mouth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were doing something kind of fun. They were in the Jilin region in China, so there wasn't a lot to do.

Speaker 3:

Okay, and they were playing a game called-. Oh, my God, yeah.

Speaker 1:

They were playing a game called put your hand in my mouth yeah, and then she did, and then the guy got lockjaw, yeah, and then. So he couldn't get the hand out of his mouth.

Speaker 3:

Oh my God, ow, my jaw is already hurting. It's already hurting just thinking about it. Yeah, oh my God, what a silly, silly fucking goose.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So he was like, hey, babe, I bet you I could fit your hand in my mouth. And she's like, let's try. And then they did. And then all of a sudden started to make strange gurgling noises. Oh my God, yeah, he drooled a whole bunch.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right. And he was like no, no, no, and she's like just take my hand out of your mouth. And he was like no.

Speaker 2:

I had to do this to my son last night to get him to stop choking. Oh yeah, his son choked on beads, oh, poor kid.

Speaker 1:

It was a good run. Eight minutes to ten months, that's pretty good.

Speaker 3:

Sounds like he did not get locked y'all.

Speaker 1:

No, no, thank God.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because his teeth are like razors. He would have just cut your hand clean off dude. He would have not made it.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's what happened to this gal. They say things took a turn for the worst. The woman began feeling a bunch of pain as her husband's teeth were uncontrollably clapped down on her wrist Ow. Teeth were uncontrollably clapped down on her wrist Ow Because he was having muscle spasms.

Speaker 3:

Ow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she says it felt like my hand was in a meat grinder.

Speaker 3:

Why would okay?

Speaker 1:

That's not good Sharp teeth.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, meat grinder. Maybe he should see the dentist.

Speaker 1:

The man could be seen. He's crying in distress and struggling to breathe through his nose because his wife's hand is in his mouth. It's very bizarre. So they had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, in a very embarrassing manner, I imagine I mean no one's driving. They have to go in an ambulance, right? Or take an Uber.

Speaker 1:

So they say what happened was the man's jaw muscles had contracted and clapped down. He removed the woman's hand by gently rotating her wrist for 20 minutes.

Speaker 2:

Rotating for 20 minutes you got to massage the jaw and it's a loosen up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I feel like. I feel like they could have taken care of this problem at home. They just panicked.

Speaker 1:

No, I think yeah, because he couldn't breathe. He's drooling all over her hand.

Speaker 3:

Well, like you said, with the jaw massaging and the rotating of the wrist, Right. Just rotate the wrist.

Speaker 1:

But they were stressed.

Speaker 3:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

They were stressed.

Speaker 3:

It's the panic and it's the uncontrollable clamping. I think the more stressed he is, the more he's clamping. So I don't know.

Speaker 1:

They were trying to make a funny video, apparently, apparently, and the video was that he says your hand. They were trying to see if her hand was small enough to fit inside his mouth, and it does.

Speaker 3:

It does, but at what cost? Yeah, he was so angry.

Speaker 2:

Or deeply concerned.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

What a way to die. That would have been really traumatic for the wife. Yeah, she like loses a finger or two.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's really got a big mouth.

Speaker 3:

I guess I can't understand, yeah, how they get into that situation without me feeling the easiness of how your jaw could lock in that situation. I feel like just open your mouth.

Speaker 1:

It's a sign of weakness. It's a sign of weakness.

Speaker 3:

Is that what it is? I think it's a sign of weakness. Oh, if.

Speaker 2:

I was her.

Speaker 1:

This is definitely like you know. That's a point, that's a negative point.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, give me the it Give me the it Ew.

Speaker 3:

It just stuck, ew, ew. Her hand is already in his mouth.

Speaker 2:

Ew why?

Speaker 3:

are you so weird? You can't even open your mouth larger than that.

Speaker 2:

She gets it out. Her hand's all pruned.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it smells weird. Oh, it's going to smell so bad. Oh, yeah, oh my God, she's going to have little chunks of food and stuff from his last meal. On the tooth marks on her hand.

Speaker 2:

Just cut it off. Yep, yep Like.

Speaker 3:

Evil Dead, yep Making a chainsaw, all right, and that's why there should be lube on every single nightstand in the world.

Speaker 2:

Sure Edible lube.

Speaker 3:

Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do a dry rub.

Speaker 3:

There was a woman Of his hand in his mouth.

Speaker 1:

No, yes, I can't fit my hand in my mouth. Of his hand in his mouth? No, yes, I can't fit my hand in my mouth. I got a big old hand. I got mitts, yep, all right. Well, any comments?

Speaker 2:

Oh, there's the video. This is horrific.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's the video there. So yeah, they have to walk with her like a dumb horse.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. We got to get rid of this. I'm going to puke, oh my him. And that's what that story said, so neither of them are having a good time with this Equal misery.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely horrible.

Speaker 3:

And it sounds like they're made for each other in stupidity, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Regarding the girl that got kidnapped, the tip was from another girl. Pano says Okay, thank you, yeah, so that's crazy, that's amazing oh.

Speaker 1:

God, that story is so sad.

Speaker 2:

No, that is a girl's girl, his tourniquet is saying now DoorDash is sending me notifications about ordering from McDonald's. Hey, alright, we did it and Jeff said embrace your AI overlords.

Speaker 3:

I told you yeah, they're watching, they're listening already.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of people that will.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, I don't know what's going to happen. I can definitely see something going viral of me just freaking out on a robot cop. It's going to be bad.

Speaker 3:

Trying to flirt with the robot cop.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God. Well, it's a big one.

Speaker 3:

Why are you being such a nerd bro?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you have Jetta Jameson's fucking tits on you.

Speaker 1:

Honk, honk. All right everyone. Thank you for listening and I'm officially going to say no butt of the week, We'll do it tomorrow. I'm rescinding all of them.

Speaker 3:

None of it's good, honestly.

Speaker 1:

None of it's good.

Speaker 3:

I'm into that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, everyone, we'll be back later. Hail yourself, talk to you soon, bye, bye.