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Episode 42: Apocalypse, Obesity, and Graveyard Sex
Luigi Mangione's tale takes a chilling turn as Attorney General Pam Bondi announces she'll pursue the death penalty for his "premeditated, cold-blooded assassination." We weigh the implications: would execution transform this healthcare vigilante into a martyr, or is life imprisonment actually the harsher sentence? The justice system's severity raises questions about proportionality and true punishment.
McAllen, Texas claims the dubious honor of America's fattest city, with a staggering 45% of residents classified as overweight or obese. The South dominates these rankings while the Midwest plays catch-up—a national health crisis costing Americans $190 billion annually. Behind these statistics lie deeper issues about food culture, lifestyle, and healthcare accessibility that affect millions.
The most spine-tingling segment explores Baba Vanga—a blind Bulgarian mystic whose prophecies stretch centuries into the future. Though she died in 1996, her predictions for 2025 include devastating earthquakes and European conflict that eerily mirror current geopolitical tensions. Her timeline grows increasingly apocalyptic: energy harvesting from Venus by 2028, worldwide communism by 2076, and humanity's ultimate end in 5079. Coincidence or clairvoyance?
We also unpack the disturbing case where convicted rapist Nathan Loeb impersonated former "Family Ties" child actor Brian Bonsall to lure women, resulting in a 274-year prison sentence. Plus, a bizarre case of mistaken identity leads a woman to stab her husband after finding photos of her younger self she didn't recognize.
Listen now to explore these strange intersections of justice, prophecy, identity, and the increasingly bizarre nature of our modern world. Share your thoughts at okbudpod@gmail.com—we'd love to hear what predictions you're making about our collective future!
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Speaker 2:Let's get an update.
Speaker 1:Everything we say is going to be true. It's April 1st, which means it's April Fool's Day, but we don't celebrate because every damn day in this country is April Fool's Day. So today we're keeping it straight.
Speaker 2:Call me April, because I am a fool.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and a beautiful reporter from the. Tmnt universe. Speaking of beautiful, your crush I'm referring to Jerry's.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's not a crush, it's just an honorary vigilante bud.
Speaker 1:That's very true. Luigi Mangione, yes, his case has made it all the way up to the most powerful attorney in town, that is, ag Pam Bondi. She obviously works with the Trump department and she has said if he is found guilty she will push specifically for the death penalty, whoa so this might be it for Luigi Mangione. He's fighting for his life.
Speaker 2:Dude. Why does that look like Sandra Bullock playing her in a role?
Speaker 1:You know it's tough to tell who's real, who's not real.
Speaker 2:Is that, hilary Swank?
Speaker 1:That's our real life. Attorney general.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, isn't that funny, cool, I mean. No, no, that's fine. She doesn't look like herself in that photo, I guess. Yeah, it's still really messed up that she's going for the death penalty.
Speaker 1:She's going for the death penalty. She announced this past Tuesday that she is going to direct federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty for his alleged premeditated, cold-blooded assassination. That shocked America.
Speaker 2:Okay, first of all, to call it a cold-blooded assassination is just wordplay.
Speaker 1:I'm not here for the weather report, hey, pam.
Speaker 2:I mean seriously cold blood assassinated. But if it was like someone else, it would have been just like an accidental, like a shooting. I mean, we all know it was premeditated and he wanted to do it Right. But I also feel like, because he's been getting so much slack, with the audiences of America falling in love with him, they're just like going down petty lane, coming like harsher thing after harsher thing after harsher thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't lukewarm blooded. They're going full cold blooded. They're going full cold now. Full reptilian, which, of course, is what many people believe. The healthcare industry is cold blooded when it comes to helping their family members and themselves survive in this horrific it's not like it was an innocent man. Yeah, survive in this horrific.
Speaker 2:It's not like it was an innocent man.
Speaker 1:Healthcare system? Absolutely so. In the statement, bondi offered sympathy for Thompson. Obviously that is the victim here. She says an innocent man and father of two young children was killed. After careful consideration, I have directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, in this case, as we carry out President Trump's agenda to stop violent crime and make America safe again, Well, yeah, but also as well as a father of two kids, didn't he also aid and abet in a very powerful way? And control the sickness and diseases and just controlling insurance for a bunch of people that don't get to have it and have to suffer.
Speaker 1:UnitedHealthcare's entire thing was just like hold off, deny the claim. At some point they'll die, They'll stop asking, yeah.
Speaker 3:So make America safe again. Is it safer with one vigilante or an entire system that is just trying to make money and let everyone die?
Speaker 1:We got to fix the system. Mangione, if killed by the state, I think he would become a martyr in many ways, he would absolutely become a martyr.
Speaker 2:They do not want to kill this guy. They really don't.
Speaker 1:Also, isn't life in prison. I always say this that is a death penalty. Yeah, it really is. If you're Luigi Mangione, it's just like oh no, I don't get to spend 70 years in the federal penal system. Right, death is the best possible way out. You just get taken out Indeed.
Speaker 2:This is more of like a lifelong purgatory sentence, which is worse than death.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it would be awful.
Speaker 2:You're just like hanging out waiting to die, knowing that you're never going to see the outside of those walls. That's depressing.
Speaker 1:I've been watching my lockup program that I love so much, which is your lockup program. They go inside the US prison system and they were speaking with somebody who was in solitary confinement for, I think, seven years and his brain was gone. He's like who knew? Yeah, it was like Arkham Asylum and so if they really wanted to torture Luigi, that would be where they would put him.
Speaker 2:Well, it looks like he's already getting tortured. I mean this photo that we're looking at of him. What is going on here? He's screaming, he's yelling, he looks like he's hissing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he might be turning into a cat.
Speaker 2:I wonder what the context of that photo is. You don't know me, right, you don't know me Well. I don't think you spread, right? Well, he's saying me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:It could have been stuck on the me Anyway.
Speaker 1:Bondi goes on to say Mangione's actions involve substantial planning and premeditation and because the murder took place in public with bystanders nearby, it may have posed a grave risk of death to additional persons. I will give him some aiming credit. First of all, the gun was a strange gun. I don't think he could have mowed a lot of people down with it. And second of all, he had very specific words on each bullet, so every bullet had a message Wow, and I don't think he was going willy-nilly trying to kill anybody.
Speaker 2:Remind me of those words. What was it? Resist.
Speaker 1:What were the three words? Again it?
Speaker 3:It was like deny, defend, depose Something like that.
Speaker 2:Something like that. And yeah, he was definitely aiming dead at his target. That he absolutely knew, was it? You can see the photo is just like whoop straight on, Wasn't even far away.
Speaker 1:Absolutely not, according to his defense attorney. They say by seeking to murder Luigi Mangione, manju's squeegee on me, the Justice Department has moved from the dysfunctional to the barbaric. Yeah yeah, this is barbaric.
Speaker 2:It is barbaric.
Speaker 1:And now I believe you're allowed to tell or ask, request the government kill you by firing squad, so isn't that?
Speaker 2:nice, hey Right, that's an insane thing to even say I would like to be requested to be killed by firing squad I think that's what I would do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because the electrocution doesn't seem to really like work super fast why do they call it a firing squad, though there's no fire involved? Right, that's a good point. Maybe that would be a good way. Just no, because the firing, yeah, I mean the fire, you know um.
Speaker 2:You know leonardo dicaprio in that movie um once upon a time in hollywood yes the flame thing when I hear firing squad. I see that in my head I want a flame tower. I'm like why did you choose to go that way?
Speaker 3:well, elon musk sells them, so I mean they could just get them from him.
Speaker 2:That's insane.
Speaker 3:Then people would be mad at him again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, let's move on. But speaking of, continue to speak of health care. Okay, so the new list has come out and we now officially know the fattest cities in America.
Speaker 3:Oh boy, they're all in the Midwest. No, they're all in the South. Oh well, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there's the midwest. No, they're all in the south. Oh well, that makes sense. Oh yeah, there's a lot of large plates, really large portions, down there I get very overwhelmed so the fattest place in america, it is in mccallan texas. There you go where everything's bigger in texas.
Speaker 1:That's what they say, right that's what they say, including the dump. That's what they say, including the dumps, because everyone's fairly large. No, minnesota, when it comes to the Midwest, they're 95th, so you got to get on your game. Minnesota, start popping more cheese.
Speaker 2:No, no, don't do that.
Speaker 1:Milwaukee, Wisconsin. They're 65th, so the Midwest is coming in, but it is the South that is really just lost their minds when it comes to weight.
Speaker 2:So are there any cities at all, any like urban kind of popular spots that are on the list at all?
Speaker 1:Not really Not too many urban areas. In McAllen, texas, 45% of the population is overweight or obese, so that's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then there's Little Rock, arkansas, where again almost half are obese.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:That's where Bill Clinton's from, so that's why he's a chubby chaser.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see, Trying to just kind of play with what you can get there, yeah, All right. Well, they say that medical obesity. It costs the American people $190 billion a year.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, because you've got to go to the doctor and be like I'm all fat.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the doctor looks at you and then he makes fun.
Speaker 2:He's like you know you're fat, right, you can't be fat.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's like that's gross for a lot of people and it's not healthy, it's not good for you.
Speaker 1:No, it's probably probably the latter, probably like hey, you know, that's not like great for you yeah, right, but what's worse is that you have united health care absolutely, and so we can't even treat you yeah, we're not doing shit for you that's my favorite thing about that 600 pound life show is the doctor is really funny yeah he's always just like one woman was.
Speaker 1:he's like you haven't lost any weight. And the woman's like I'm retaining water. And then he looked at her. He's like you said that's all water, it's all water weight. It's like, yeah, it's all water. And then she. And then he's like, well, you shouldn't eat. And then she said I got to eat something. And he says you ate enough for four years. Yeah, so you don't need to eat for like four years.
Speaker 3:Wow, literally that's really messed up, yeah, live off the energy of her own fat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is kind of cool yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm self-sustaining. You're your own buffet. I'm a complete system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can survive all for yourself for years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In the they. The bland, the man with one eye is king In the land of the obese and you're starving in the desert, I'm good. Yeah, it's all them skinnies that are going to die soon and first Drink my sweat, oh God. Oh, that's gross. So congratulations McAllen. Texas, you're the fattest place in the country.
Speaker 2:Which, again, is not to be said in a fat-shaming way, because we're not here to body shame. I think everyone's beautiful. No, they're proud of it and you can be proud of it. But you can also just yeah, you know, just like be healthy. And it's also a really stark contrast to, you know, the way everyone else in the world seems to live. Everyone else outside of America seems to be kind of relatively like petite in length too.
Speaker 1:I was watching this fantastic competitive eating documentary on Kobayashi and Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. And then there's those guys.
Speaker 1:Yes, and Kobayashi said, when he first came to the States for the Coney Island July 4th celebration he said I've never seen people so large and he was like I thought it was like mythical, because people talk about Americans, like we're huge, because we're all huge and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then when he saw them for the first time, he was like I didn't know if they could eat more than me. I was so scared, I was in awe, I was scared. And then it turns out he just plowed through them with 50 hot dogs in his first outing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like oh, you guys are just doing all this for show, but I've got the skills.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's a grower, not a shower Right, and all these Chunkies. It's so funny that they can't even really win at the thing that they should win at, which is eating, because their fat doesn't allow their tummy to expand as much as Kobayashi's, for example.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:It's called hitting the fat wall. This is true Really. Yeah, the stomach hits the fat wall.
Speaker 3:Hits the iron wall yeah.
Speaker 1:And then your stomach is like you're too fat to eat anymore.
Speaker 2:I did not know that.
Speaker 1:Yes, so the top five fattest cities in America McAllen, texas, memphis, tennessee which I'm a little surprised about, memphis, but they do have good barbecue Augusta, georgia, shreveport, louisiana, where I have been, and there's not a lot to do, so I understand why maybe food is a big deal. And then, finally, we get to the Midwest.
Speaker 2:Well, everyone likes eating food, Everyone likes to go out and eat food.
Speaker 1:Everyone loves food, and especially in Louisiana they got oh my God, they're sweet and savory sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yum.
Speaker 1:And they're little dough balls, beignets, beignets.
Speaker 2:Yum, I love beignets.
Speaker 1:I know I'd go fat off a beignet. Finally, the Midwest comes in with Dayton, ohio, and they are tied for fifth with Oklahoma City, oklahoma. So congratulations, if you are listening in one of those states, a round of applause and we wish you the best and keep on eating.
Speaker 2:Keep on, keeping on.
Speaker 1:Keep on keeping on, It'll loosen your Bible belt Indeed yes, that's pretty good. That is where they are. They are reading the scripture. They kind of skip over the parts about gluttony, but they get right to the fun stuff. Right to the fun stuff.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1:All right, baba Vanga.
Speaker 2:Who what?
Speaker 1:Baba Vanga Baba. She is a blind mystic. Do you know who this is?
Speaker 2:No, I don't. Whoa, is that her?
Speaker 1:That's her. She is a blind mystic.
Speaker 2:Is she blind or eyeless?
Speaker 1:She is eyeless. She is eyeless, jesus Christ yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's different. I don't think that's the same as blind she can't see I guess, technically it's blind. That's crazy, holy. Technically it's blind.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Yeah, holy shit, there's no eyes. She has no eyes.
Speaker 3:Whoa, I'm blind too. Someone's like well, do you have your eyes? Yeah.
Speaker 1:But because she's all blind and stuff and eyeless, like Real Monsters fantastic show, she has been able to predict certain things and she has prophecies, because look at her, you can't be psychic just because you're blind. It helps Because it opens up the mind's eye.
Speaker 2:It opens up the sixth sense yes, right.
Speaker 1:So Baba Vanga she has now said a lot is going to happen in 2025. She has predicted a few eye-opening things.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, that's kind of fucked up to say to her. I know You've really opened my eyes. She has predicted a few eye-opening things.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean that's kind of fucked up to say to her I know, you really opened my eyes.
Speaker 2:She's like must be nice. I can't tell.
Speaker 1:Interestingly enough, though, she's dead what she died when In 1996.
Speaker 2:What, what the fuck? I just met her. I just met this woman. You're telling me she died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's dead.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:Okay so, but she did predict a lot of things. She predicted 9-11.
Speaker 2:No she didn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was like a bunch of planes are going to hit the building and then Halliburton's going to get a big contract.
Speaker 2:Not a big building, or like the big buildings, or like did she name the buildings?
Speaker 1:She said something about controlled explosions.
Speaker 3:That's the thing about prophecies they're always very.
Speaker 2:I see fire. I'm seeing fire. I'm seeing a lot of steel structure.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Yes, they're very broad, they are very broad. She also predicted Princess Diana's death.
Speaker 3:Okay, how broad was that one. Princess Diana's going to die at one point, you know.
Speaker 1:She was correct, and then she also predicted the rise of China.
Speaker 2:This lady can't miss. I really want to see how these predictions were. Researcher Where's the researcher?
Speaker 1:Well, as you can see in this photo here, it looks as if she's holding a tangerine. So, perhaps it was the citrus that really helped her think.
Speaker 3:Someone said it's your eyeball.
Speaker 1:It could be, yes, it could be her eyeball as well. She just holds them again like the creature from Ah, Real Monsters which is currently streaming on Paramount Plus and, yes, I've been watching it.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe she opens her hand, like in Pan's Labyrinth. It's right here.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that movie. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's awesome. So she forecasted in 2025 that there was going to be earth-shattering earthquakes. Oh, and we just had a 7.7 earthquake someplace in the world. Was it Japan?
Speaker 3:Myanmar and China, I think both got hit.
Speaker 1:Wow, so she's correct. And yes, is it a little broad? Is it a little vague, as they say? Sure, yeah, but she also predicted Wait, she also predicted that there's going to be war in Europe and worldwide economic disaster.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:Yes, vanga's frightening timeline for the end of humanity.
Speaker 1:And she came up with all this in the mid-90s, so this is in between episodes of Tool Time.
Speaker 2:God, dude, uh-huh, I swear what if she's just fucking with us?
Speaker 1:She might be, she could just be making all this up being like.
Speaker 2:I hope these motherfuckers believe it Earth will go to war with a civilization on Mars in the year 3005.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe it, the muskers, the muskheads that live up there.
Speaker 2:What is that? Oh, the muskers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to be a bunch of scumbags.
Speaker 2:They're going to have to be muskrats.
Speaker 1:Yes, they're going to be a bunch of scumbags going up there. So she also claimed that the downfall of humanity begins this year. Whoa, it's beginning this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, we didn't need her to say that we could tell.
Speaker 1:This is why she's a mystic.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:But the world will officially end, don't worry about it, no time soon. 5,079. Oh.
Speaker 2:A conflict in Europe will devastate the continent's population in 2025.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what do we have?
Speaker 2:What do we have?
Speaker 1:Russia, Ukraine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The world is on the brink of WWIII. Yep, yep. Europe is arming themselves more than ever because the US has stopped financing and supporting their militaries. So I think she might be on to something.
Speaker 2:This is terrifying.
Speaker 1:That earthquake was March 28th. Yeah, it was Myanmaranmar, it was parts of thailand killed thousands of people, wow hopefully, some of them were pedophiles well, I always like to think that yeah, in thailand yeah well, it's not the thai people, it's the people who go to thailand yeah, that's what I'm saying a bunch of people on vacation for sex tourism for children.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, hopefully they're gone yeah, we've talked about this before. There was a guy that was way too into going to, uh, one of those countries and the way he's talked about it I was like but he could just go away yeah, he's like sway.
Speaker 3:He's getting moist just thinking about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah real freaking nasty I'm sweating right now.
Speaker 2:I'm getting very nervous. I'm doing the math how old I'll be in 2076?
Speaker 3:we'll be dead, don't worry.
Speaker 2:No maybe not 2076 she might not be.
Speaker 1:I'll be 90.
Speaker 2:Oh, you'll be fine, I'll be 84. I'll be fucking alive. I'll be alive and pissed.
Speaker 1:Well, she says in 2028, as an energy source, we're going to start going to Venus.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then 2076,. Communism is going to spread across the world.
Speaker 2:That's when I'll be 84 and I'll be really annoyed that I no longer have my mobility to give haircuts for burgers.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, also be very careful you don't get deported.
Speaker 2:Why would?
Speaker 1:I get deported.
Speaker 2:Did you hear that story? No, why would I get deported?
Speaker 1:There was a hairstylist and they thought he was part of the Trenga gang, one of these gangs.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, and they sent him to. Where did they send him? Honduras, or something.
Speaker 3:Somewhere in South America? Yeah, El Salvador.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's in El Salvador. That's insane. Be careful. That's so scary.
Speaker 1:Be careful out there and he has his papers. I know we're crazy. It's a crazy time 21.30,. Humans are going to make alien contact, but I actually think Bhagavanga is a little wrong on that. I think we're going to make alien contact before that.
Speaker 2:I think we already have. Yeah, it's a matter of communication.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:Telling the others that we've seen them, or for them to just come out of the plain sight that they're hiding in.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Kyle. Unzip yourself Kyle.
Speaker 3:They're just as dumb as we imagined.
Speaker 1:I'm choking. I do think we may have met them in the 60s and then they gave us all the Wi-Fi stuff, and that's why technology has exponentially increased very, very fast in the past 10 years. I mean, look at what's going to happen in 10 years from now, so perhaps that is alien technology.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is terrifying 2170,. A drought will devastate much of the world.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, I'm so thirsty. Does anyone have water? Yeah, we'll see, oh nice.
Speaker 1:I do think that we're going to have water wars. I believe we're already in it. Isn't Nestle like killing a bunch of people?
Speaker 3:What they are lobbying to make it so that water is not a human right. Yeah, it's an asset to be coveted.
Speaker 1:It's already that Deployed. Yeah, so the water wars are going to happen for sure, I'm so scared to be a human.
Speaker 2:Oh, this is terrifying. This is all so scary. Can we go back to the 90s?
Speaker 1:Well, that's when she came up with all this shit.
Speaker 2:Well, exactly Back to the 90s, we're like, ah, she has no eyes, just let her say what she wants. Yeah, she's about to go.
Speaker 1:So Baba Vanga, who's gone TRL in 96? Who's going to be number one?
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Right, right, I would be probably Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 3:In sync again.
Speaker 1:The person who I was referencing, by the way, he's not a gang member. Us Deports of Makeup Artists.
Speaker 2:With a hairstylist right.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's a hairstylist. They sent him to an El Salvador prison because he had a crown tattoo, andre. Because he had a crown tattoo, andre Jose Hernandez Romero. So hopefully he is going to live and come back, because apparently he's also a citizen.
Speaker 2:That's so, so ridiculous. I mean, why did it go so far? Why didn't they just bring him as? Why didn't they just catch this along the road? They got to get it right, they definitely didn't, because they don't care, yep.
Speaker 1:Assholes. So we'll see. All right, all of that.
Speaker 2:And according to my calculator, I'm going to be 178 years old by the time the Earth goes through a devastating drought in 2170.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I do expect to be alive then. So I'm pretty annoyed that I'll have to go through that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you maybe want to start hoarding the water now have to go through that. Yeah, yeah, you maybe want to start hoarding the water now. Yeah, that's a good idea. I should cap this. Yeah, let all those microplastics really get in there. Yeah, all right. Well, let's move on to a couple of interesting crime stories. I want to start with this one. It's about technology a little bit as well. So we mentioned the show Hollywood Demons. We mentioned that in the context of the papa from Seventh Heaven, who was a child molester, stephen Collins.
Speaker 1:This story is very strange. It explores this child actor. He was on Family Ties, His name is Brian Bonsall right and he had some addiction issues and he ended up in prison. Now this man is a victim here, so I want to make sure that that is clear. He played Michael J Fox's little brother on the show. While he was in jail he met a now convicted convicted serial rapist named Nathan Loeb, and this is so disturbing on so many levels. Nathan Loeb pretended to be the child star Weird To get women to go out with him.
Speaker 2:So he got released out of jail and then the child star stayed in jail.
Speaker 1:Yes. And then Nathan Loeb is like what if I just become this guy? What if I just say I'm him? Yeah, because you know all the, all the gals, you know how women love child stars.
Speaker 2:Everyone loves child stars right now.
Speaker 1:But apparently it worked.
Speaker 2:So he does faintly look like him.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, it's tough. Did you see Dewey, the guy who played Dewey on Malcolm in the Middle? Yes, have you seen him recently no. You can't really tell when they get older. Google Dewey now. Google the Dewey now. They don't age. People don't age the way that you would expect them to.
Speaker 2:Interesting, interesting.
Speaker 1:So he says Bonzel says. Bonzel says it's a really hard story to tell For me. It's hard to not cry. He says there's definitely a feeling of guilt. It's so hard to explain those girls. They wanted to go on a date with me because I was a child actor. It even clicked in my head that I had met this person because some of the mistakes that I made. So he's like fuck, if I never went to jail because I was doing drugs, like all good child actors do, I never would have met this guy, never would have been put into his head that this is a possibility and perhaps he never would have done it.
Speaker 2:Of course he is also he's blaming himself for it.
Speaker 1:Well, because he's a good person.
Speaker 2:Poor guy yeah.
Speaker 1:So this piece of trash again. That was the man Loeb he was convicted of raping seven women over a 12-year period. Wow, In 2019, he was sentenced to 274 years in prison. So he will be around for the drought. Bonzel is now a musician and he opens up about this whole ordeal again on this episode of hollywood demons. What a strange thing to have happen. Obviously, the victims are the women yeah um, but then also him where it's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:yeah, this guy's a piece of garbage isn't that crazy when you, it's one thing to have your identity stolen right but then stolen and used for such a disgusting, nefarious thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you usually steal identities to get money out of it, and this is you're just trying to get you know women.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 3:You're a psycho.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fucking disgusting. I mean, imagine you're like sitting in prison and then someone's like hey, so we have a problem Some of raping them over the last couple years.
Speaker 1:It's probably the only time ever you're happy to be in prison, right he's?
Speaker 2:like I've been in here, he's like yeah, there's no way I could have done that.
Speaker 1:Thank my lucky stars. I'm a drug addict.
Speaker 2:Literally have never left.
Speaker 3:Never been happier to be in prison.
Speaker 2:Right, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Bonzal recalls meeting this Loeb character. He says I remember his crazy eyes. I met him in 2004 in jail when I was there for my second d-dub and I was there for a couple or a few nights or whatever. I guess he just really got upset with, obsessed with me. Oh my god, right off the bat oh, that's so weird.
Speaker 2:He was probably like dude. I totally remember you, man. I'll remember that show. How man you worked with this guy, what it was like. I bet you had a fucking great time, man. He was probably really really annoying. But, in like a dangerous way. You can't shut them up because you're terrified to.
Speaker 1:Yes, and it's. Those are very scary yeah.
Speaker 1:He's got soulless eyes yeah, he really does. And so he says she just looked over at me and said oh, you're the real Brian Bonzel. And I said what does that mean? And she said well, I dated a guy for three months who was nice at first. She had said that he was using my name to coax her into coming over and meeting him. So this guy was pretending to be this child actor for a long period of time with a series of women. Anyway, I just thought that's just one of those stories you don't expect to tell in your life no, that's.
Speaker 2:That's pretty insane also. That's why you can't fall for this like whole starstruck stuff and like using it as an excuse to like go out with people thinking they're going to be a nice person, but you don't really know who they are you really don't.
Speaker 3:You really don't it's such a specific character, from a show too, that like right, who would make that up?
Speaker 1:right it so weird it's not the most famous child star of all time.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, you're Michael J Fox. No, I'm his younger brother. You remember Like kind of.
Speaker 2:And they're like oh, yeah, yeah, I think I do. Yeah, I guess that was you, that's cool. And they're just like fuck yeah let's go on a date with this child star guy yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to brag, but I get an Applebee's coupon every week 13 cents a quarter.
Speaker 2:Right, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Apparently, the guy went far enough to get tattoos in the same place that. Bonzel had tattoos, or at the very least he had tattoos in the same places, which I would assume if he's going this far he probably got those tattoos to pretend to be this guy.
Speaker 2:He went meth-ed.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, what a fucking nightmare.
Speaker 1:Well, it seems like Bonzo's main thing was the booze Kept on. Drinking and driving, you gotta be careful. And raping no, bonzo was the innocent guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought you were the five-star Lobe.
Speaker 1:Lobe was probably strangely enough dead fucking sober Lobe. Lobe was probably, strangely enough, dead fucking sober yeah seriously, lobe, hold the ear, oh my God. All right, another story of confusion, but in an entirely different way.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:A wife stabbed her husband.
Speaker 2:All right, not confusing, I'm here so far.
Speaker 1:Right, it's a Mexican gal, mexican gal, mexican gal.
Speaker 2:I'm not being racial, was that necessary?
Speaker 1:No, I'm not being racial, she just is a Mexican gal who happened to stab her husband.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure.
Speaker 1:She said that she was going through his phone. As wives will do and husbands will do.
Speaker 2:Girlfriends and boyfriends do it sometimes Sure.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's a good thing. I don will do girlfriends and boyfriends do it sometimes. Sure, I don't think it's a good thing. I don't know why I have no, yeah, what are you ever gonna find if I?
Speaker 2:have to worry about it.
Speaker 3:That's already the problem exactly so she's what, kyle, what this story already reminds me of, someone that me and ben have met before, a lady, a latina lady who was like my husband called me a whore and we were like oh, we're so sorry to hear that. And she's like no, I am a whore. I just told him I'm not, I'm that whore and I stabbed him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was she was funny. And then I was like oh man, Cause she had big old fake knockers. Yeah, and then I was like, oh, she's so cool and hot and stuff. And then people reminded me, no, don't do that.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. Yeah, she just told you, Don't do that. She stabbed somebody. But then I was like maybe I could save her, but I learned. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Lessons, lessons.
Speaker 2:Lessons. Don't be Captain Save-A-Ho, no.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So this Mexican woman. She's going through her husband's phone All of a sudden, all these pictures of him having sex with a woman and a younger woman, a younger oof right in the woman insecurities yep, she fucking freaks out, uh-huh. She stabbed him multiple times on his arms and his legs yikes damn yes. However, the main issue is the photos were actually of her when she was?
Speaker 3:younger.
Speaker 1:So she was like super cute apparently.
Speaker 2:Cuter than she remembers.
Speaker 1:Yes, but she forgets. So, without asking him about the photos, she began attacking him. He finally got the knife away and then he was like lady, wife, these are you. So the wife apparently didn't recognize herself because she was thinner, had makeup on and was younger oh my god, who's this hot bitch?
Speaker 2:who is this slut?
Speaker 1:yeah. So not only was he not cheating on her, he was technically being kind of romantic and still was looking at young nudes yeah because he was in love with her, still hold Holding on to the memories. So sweet how jealous of you, to be jealous of your younger self.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the height of insecurity, right there it's like the movie Looper. Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like she goes back to kill herself.
Speaker 1:I can't believe you looked at that young chick. It was you, yeah, but it's not me now is it? It's us.
Speaker 2:It's not me now. It was you, yeah, but it's not me now, is it? It's us, yeah, it's not me now, it's me back then. You're cheating on me now with old me, you son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:Pretty fucking disgusting one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty gross Do you know how old you are? Right now, you sick fuck, I am also 17 in the photo, are you not seeing?
Speaker 1:Oh my God, so he's going to recover?
Speaker 2:Oh, that's good she didn't kill him. How did she find out?
Speaker 1:I wonder when she found out. She found the photos in an old email that had been transferred to his phone.
Speaker 2:No, I wonder when she found out that they were her.
Speaker 1:It must have been relatively soon.
Speaker 3:It doesn't matter, it was after the stabbing.
Speaker 2:It was after the stabbing.
Speaker 3:But was it like during the stabbing, where he was like no, look at it again, look at it again.
Speaker 2:One last one Didn't take out the trash.
Speaker 1:Juan and Lenora. In a strange way, this, I think this couple is going to last, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, them talking about this when they're 70.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a funny story where all the kids are uncomfortable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when all the grandkids are like what the fuck are they telling the truth? And then their parents are in the kitchen like, yeah, that was a true story. They definitely did that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're not so nice now, are they?
Speaker 3:still want to go to their house on the weekends well, that lady that was telling me and ben that story thought it was like a cute fun story.
Speaker 2:So it's like I guess I mean, hey, maybe it is a Hawaiian thing you know, I've had a cousin, stab a cousin fiery it was fun. It was all in good fun, yeah I mean it's, it's.
Speaker 1:That's an interesting one because it's a, it's a compliment and there's many compliments in there yeah she also thought that her husband could still. He must look pretty good if she didn't realize that that was him younger yeah, he must have aged fairly well, so maybe she got lucky.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's weird because she noticed it was him, but she didn't notice that it was her. Right and she also didn't remember anything about the room, the scene, the setting, nothing about that moment. Right and I'm assuming because the time that they recorded themselves fucking yeah.
Speaker 1:You would think she would recall that because back in the day you'd have to set up a cam cord or you got a VHS tape you got to pop in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It'd be like honey. We got to stop it. The tape only lasts for 30 minutes. I got to flip the tape around. Oh yeah, the husband says that Sure hey there's a lot of guys with impotence issues, aka longevity.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure, yeah, that's pretty weird. Imagine if I was going into my partner's house. I pass by a mirror and I'm like who's this? Pretty bitch.
Speaker 1:Who's this fucking bitch Every day? It's just like that TV show Not Crossing Over, the one where you wake up as somebody different every day.
Speaker 2:I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1:Quantum Leap, quantum Leap.
Speaker 2:Quantum Leap?
Speaker 1:Quantum Leap. Every episode, every time you wake up, you're somebody new.
Speaker 2:I never saw that episode. Is that what that shit is about? Yeah, that's what every episode's about.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, one time he woke up as someone with down syndrome and I had that bullwinkle shirt on the other day so he was piled.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're not knowing what we're talking about, look up bullwinkle, quantum leap also yeah, bullwinkle, that's the end, yeah it's not the down syndrome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also, uh-huh speaking of technology, um, why is this down syndrome thing? I love people with down syndrome, by the way, just just to clarify that. But why are they doing this whole sex thing with people? So they're putting Down syndrome faces on like really sexy gals.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a big thing Is that really like a filter thing that's happening.
Speaker 1:It's a filter thing. Yeah, is that on?
Speaker 2:Instagram or is it on TikTok Like? Where's the filter available?
Speaker 1:Both yeah, and I'm just like I don't know what's going on what is that about?
Speaker 2:because I thought originally it took me like I had to. I read all the comments at first. I didn't believe it was a filter.
Speaker 3:I was like, don't be mean, this little lady seems to work out, yeah it's a girl with a slamming body and then obviously has the face of someone with down syndrome yeah and that's gonna get clicks. People are just like it's the same joke all the time and people just like if she's down, I'm down right, yeah, it's always that joke, it's always that joke.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's kind of a, it's kind of a strange thing what's the?
Speaker 3:yeah, I don't really get what the point I don't know what the end game is, but they certainly get their subscriber count up yeah yeah, that's weird, I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know but then there's's the first woman with Down syndrome who became a Victoria's Secret model, and she's actually very attractive.
Speaker 2:She is very attractive. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 3:It's a different world out there.
Speaker 1:Alright, what do you think about graveyard sex?
Speaker 2:Um cute.
Speaker 1:Well, apparently it's illegal. What when In Florida?
Speaker 3:Well, if you're doing it on a gravestone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this couple, Joseph Luke Brown and Stephanie K Wegman. He's only 38. She's 46. They were banging on gravesite number 43.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, maybe directly on top of the person.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they do look like they were voted most likely to fuck in a graveyard for sure they already look kind of dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, she definitely has dead eyes and he looks like he has no idea how he got there.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, he's definitely.
Speaker 3:Well, he's got the keys. He works there. Oh yeah, he's one of the corpses.
Speaker 1:So they said the cops are also like hey, you can't fuck on this graveyard. You're going to get cursed and if the semen goes on the ground you're going to wake him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're going to ferment the dead body.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and then they're going to come back to the grave, and we've seen what happens there. That's how that works. So they also found methamphetamine, xanax and Oxycontin.
Speaker 3:Oh, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Shocker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what she was getting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so apparently cops, they. They were driving by the graveyard, they were doing graveyard shift and, uh, they saw a white nissan but no one was in it. It was called it's and the cemetery they were at. You know what? It's called wild cow prairie. Oh wow, if you married, if you buried my grandma in wild car cow prairie, she would fucking kill you if you fuck someone I know in wild cow prairie that's also something that's not very nice but what if your grandma loved cows?
Speaker 1:My grandma did not. My grandma had a disdain for all animals. Yeah, my German grandma was the nice one. Yeah, she had a disdain for things too, but different than my American grandma. So apparently there was a bunch of graves and then they were having sex on one and then they identified them and they thought at first they were grave robbers. But they're not grave robbers, they're great fuckers.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yep. So Wegman was arrested on multiple drug charges and booked in the county jail, where she is being held without bond. And then Brown was transported from the cemetery to a local hospital because he had a preexisting leg injury. Uh, they speaking Because he had a pre-existing leg injury. Speaking of health care.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're like. Oh, by the way, did you know that you have a spider vein that's getting infected?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Can you imagine following a guy high on meth? That's like limping in a graveyard, Like I'm going to fuck that guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Goddamn look at that platypus looking motherfucker right there. Looks like a cryptid, but I just love that that. Yeah, the cops are like sir, you have a pre-existing injury.
Speaker 2:we have to get you to the doctor right now.
Speaker 1:We have to tend this, sir yeah, and then apparently after that, a warrant's going to be sought for brown yeah, but they don't know what they're going to charge him with, so maybe this saved his life how about public indecency? At the wild cow prairie cemetery wild.
Speaker 2:Wild Cow Prairie Cemetery. I mean okay, well, I mean this is different. But I once went on the cutest little goth date in Hollywood Cemetery because you know they show movies there and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yes, I performed there many times.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and we saw the Addams Family and we walked around and looked at some of the gravesites and then we had a little kiss and it was so cute. We're like look at us kissing in a graveyard. It's all goffy. Who'd you kiss by who'd I? No one, no one in particular. Oh no celeb yeah, no. Celeb, no, it was. We were just having fun in the in the macabre vibes I saw this thing on marilyn monroe.
Speaker 1:She's buried in a mausoleum which is the apartment complex for corpses yeah, yeah and the guy on top of her was like he bought it. Like before she died, like when she died, he bought it. Bury me face down. That's what he did. What? Yeah, basically, he's like I want to be above maryland for all of my days. And she's like can you leave this? Just leave this woman alone.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, you kidding me. You can't even die in this country. You can't even die without getting harassed in this country and the one in hollywood cemetery.
Speaker 1:It's always leaking.
Speaker 2:That's insane. Have you seen that?
Speaker 1:No, it like leaks this brown substance Like it's nasty oh my, that's pretty gross.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't wanna.
Speaker 1:I don't know where I want my body to go, but I don't wanna be in the apartment complex.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Just burn me to a crisp right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Fly away the ashes. So no one can. No one can try to attack. Attack my body, yeah, or just have sex on it. Yeah, don't do that I feel like if I pass on, even if I entered, like the pearly gates, there's still going to be someone on the side being like hey, yo, mom. Oh yeah, and I'm like come on, are you kidding, even here?
Speaker 1:Well, they're on the outside. They didn't get in.
Speaker 2:No they're on the outside, they when they just constantly catcall, but never. But they never make any moves about it.
Speaker 1:It must work at some point.
Speaker 2:Oh, it does work at some point. I know friends who it's worked on and shame on you, shame on you all. Well, they're part of the problem.
Speaker 1:Yes, mm-hmm, all right. Well, brown, he has an extensive criminal history, not just a pre-existing condition. He's got battery, domestic violence, larceny, reckless driving, meth possession, dui, possession of drug, paraphernalia and then a judge described him as quote a habitual felony offender.
Speaker 2:That sounds like many pre-existing conditions.
Speaker 1:And no word how he injured his leg. I do love it must have been bad for cops to care. I mean, cops don't give a fuck, cops don't fucking care.
Speaker 2:So it must have been like for cops to care.
Speaker 1:I mean cops don't give a fuck, cops don't fucking care. So it must have been like, do you?
Speaker 2:know you're bleeding? Do you know you're bleeding down your leg? What's that? Is that a puncture wound from a needle?
Speaker 1:Yep, he's apparently living in a mobile home that he purchased last year by his parents. Bought him a mobile home. Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Well, that's nice. Well, that's nice.
Speaker 1:I guess. I guess, I mean, he still gets laid, he still gets laid.
Speaker 2:At the Wild Cow Prairie.
Speaker 1:At the Wild Cow Prairie Cemetery.
Speaker 2:It's getting nuts. I mean hey, Don't do it on bodies. Just take a cute little picnic blanket, have your fun little rituals, say goodbye to your relatives or say hello to your relatives, whatever you want to do, and then lean over a stone or two and oh, and then have very good graveyard sex. But not on top of any of the bodies.
Speaker 1:Okay, there was a bleeding tree in a cemetery in Stevens Point, wisconsin. We would go there during Halloween.
Speaker 2:It was on its period.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was a woman.
Speaker 2:Yo.
Speaker 1:It was a woman tree, it was a free bleeder. And it would bleed. Man, I saw half of this story, half of this show is just saying I saw, but anyway, the pads are getting bigger for women.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the holes are getting bigger.
Speaker 1:No. The pads, the tree pads, the bleed pads.
Speaker 2:The bleed pads. Maybe we're bleeding at an exceedingly alarming amount.
Speaker 1:Well, everyone in the comments section on that post was like I'm a heavy bleeder. I love that they were all happy about it.
Speaker 2:Oh no no, no, no, no, no. I can't stand that. I mean, it's just pain for me, I go through pain. I go through insufferable amounts of pain.
Speaker 1:I'm like it's not right that I go through this much pain, like once a month. So I nipped it in the bud. I became a tree. Oh, you are a beautiful tree. I am speaking of beautiful. Do we have any comments?
Speaker 3:we do, uh, we are seeing here. Uh, they, everyone's mind is blown that the lady was jealous of her younger self right.
Speaker 1:Isn't that amazing. She must have been super hot.
Speaker 3:I mean Lori. It sounds like she has some history with stabbing people because she said she didn't want him dead anyways, or she would have gone for the torso or his groin.
Speaker 2:That's so true. It's very interesting to learn that she only got him in the arms and legs.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're going to live through this motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Stabs in the hand.
Speaker 1:We're still married, by the way.
Speaker 2:This isn't a divorce, by the way, Juan, You're not escaping this buddy.
Speaker 1:That's going to kill. Oh, poor guy.
Speaker 2:You can live without your pinky toe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, At this point I think they're just made for each other.
Speaker 2:She's all stabbed up full of scars and apparently very in love with her. I guess so it's kind of a sweet story.
Speaker 1:Maybe while he was getting stabbed.
Speaker 2:He was always like this is just like the first time I met you.
Speaker 1:He's like I'm falling in love all over again. Remember when we made that sex tape and then we made a snuff film where you stabbed me a bunch.
Speaker 2:Yeah Cool.
Speaker 1:Alright, thank you for that comment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Vanessa is very concerned. She said Ben, in all caps, you know you can't save them.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know, I am aware, I am aware you can't save everyone. I'm just trying to save myself, yeah, and my career, yeah.
Speaker 3:Anyone yeah?
Speaker 1:Anyone.
Speaker 3:Lori said, just to put it out there, I've never stabbed anyone in real life, just in my head.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's 30 times a day of course, 30 times a day. How many people? How many? How many people if you could, if you could just snap your fingers and just be like you're gone? Yeah, how many people do you think you'd kill a year?
Speaker 3:a year, recurring year. Uh, I think I would get all of my uh enemies out in like five tries and then that's it. I think I'd be good, oh, just five.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3:I would want to yeah, I got some people that could go.
Speaker 2:I would want to relocate them. I wouldn't want to, like, kill them.
Speaker 3:No, they just disappear. What to like? Mars or Venus, or-.
Speaker 2:Like what am I PETA?
Speaker 1:I'm not here to euthanize them. I fattest part of the country. Take them over to beautiful Texas.
Speaker 2:You know where they can eat.
Speaker 1:well, yeah, they can eat amazingly. All right, anything else, I think that's about it.
Speaker 3:That's about it Anyone with Baba Vega? Yeah, they, they don't believe her. They're saying always trust a blind woman.
Speaker 1:That's very true.
Speaker 2:I'm never going to forget about that list. I'm actually going to print that out and put that on the ceiling of my wall to help my insomnia. I need something to feel hopeless about at nighttime right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That seems good.
Speaker 3:Vanessa feels better when she watches my 600-lb Life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until you're eating the same thing they are, and then you look down at your plate and you look down at your gut and you're like motherfucker, where's that doctor? Shit, yeah, All right. Well, thank you all so much for listening. We'll be back Thursday and Friday. Tomorrow, a brand new Death and Entertainment comes out. It's about Kimbo Slice. So if you don't know who he is. You're going to learn a lot and it's a very interesting story, yeah, so thank you all so much for listening.