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Episode 49: When Tampering With Someone's Lunch Goes Too Far
What drives a Wisconsin teenager to murder his parents in a twisted plan to assassinate a former president? How does comedy legend Rosie O'Donnell form an unlikely bond with convicted murderer Lyle Menendez? When does aggressive basketball play cross the line into criminal assault?
The OK Bud podcast tackles these mind-bending questions head-on as hosts Ben Kissel, Jerry Aquino, and Kyle Plouffe navigate through the strangest headlines they've encountered lately. From the 17-year-old who allegedly killed his mother and stepfather to fund an assassination plot against Donald Trump (complete with disturbing neo-Nazi connections), to the helicopter tour company offering massive discounts after a fatal crash, the crew explores the darkest corners of human behavior with their signature mix of shock, humor, and unexpected insight.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when they discuss Rosie O'Donnell's years-long friendship with Lyle Menendez, revealing how shared trauma created an unexpected bond between the comedian and the convicted murderer. Meanwhile, a high school basketball player faces adult felony charges for breaking an opponent's nose during a game, sparking debate about where we draw the legal line in competitive sports.
Perhaps most relatable is the tale of an apprentice mechanic who threatened to mess with a coworker's toolbox after someone tampered with his lunch, leading to his dismissal and a workplace "tribunal" that feels straight out of a sitcom. Through it all, the hosts bring their trademark perspective to these bizarre stories, reminding us that sometimes the truth really is stranger than fiction.
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Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Isn't that exciting.
Speaker 1:Also shoot us an email, okbudpod, at gmailcom. Share pictures of your animals. Who knows Any stories you want to tell us? Yes, yeah. Yes, we have a couple of We've got a story. Yes, we do have a story we're going to start off with here. We also have a couple of updates to get to will be very exciting. Okay, let's go to the emails.
Speaker 2:Ring it up.
Speaker 1:What about our emails?
Speaker 2:Who's emailing?
Speaker 1:What about our emails? What about the emails? Let me see your emails. Are pizza orders in there?
Speaker 2:Or electronic mail.
Speaker 1:Pizza means child. Yes, what? That's what I learned from the conspiracy web.
Speaker 2:When people want to order a pizza they're ordering a child Traffic child. Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Covered in marinara oh no. Yeah, and then you got to eat the pepperonis off them.
Speaker 2:Well, that doesn't sound very good.
Speaker 1:No, it's like a strip club that has the sushi on top of the person there lying there and that's all disgusting. Yeah, isn't that kind of weird, throw it all out it seemed thorny.
Speaker 2:I mean, just Kyle's kid could cut my finger off, just clean off with like two teeth. Oh, he's devastated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, strange, I don't want to be near one of those for food? Absolutely not. No, well, that's the thing, all right. Well, this story comes in from Daisy. Speaking of children, didn't all of us take a bus at some point?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we sure did, isn't that fun.
Speaker 1:Varying lengths, one varying lengths varying lengths some were the short bus, some were the long bus. I was in a long bus but I'm so tall it was the short bus to me and if you grew up in new york city.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's the public bus oh, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's sad. Yeah, that just sounds sucks. Uh, she says on episode 44 you talked about the woman who maybe got hit by a bus. That was virginia goufret. Yeah, yes who is back in the news, but I don't even care anymore, because that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 2:That they have to work out themselves. We put it to rest.
Speaker 1:We put that to rest. She says I lived way out in the country, growing up to the point that the car bus route took over an hour to get us to school and from All. Throughout elementary school we had the worst driver because she was the only one willing to work that route. Wow, so didn't you have the best driver?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah right, come on, yeah, so true.
Speaker 1:They say we had three wrecks under her until she had to retire because she had a heart attack while driving us.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, yeah, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2:Well, if she pulled over safely, kudos on her.
Speaker 1:I don't think she did. She says twice we just hit somebody's car, but the memorable wreck was the last one. She took a turn too shallow and our bus literally flipped over into a ditch. Oh damn, the windows were on the floor and we were all standing on them after getting thrown around like maracas, oh my.
Speaker 2:God. Well, it's a good thing, kids are durable.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:They're also pretty buoyant.
Speaker 1:Oh, you can't kill a kid. You really got to try.
Speaker 2:You have to try so hard. They'll bounce. They'll melt. They're like a cat. They'll melt. They're like a cat. When they squeeze underneath doors and just all of a sudden flatten themselves, they get under weird shit. You're like how'd you get there?
Speaker 1:When I hang out with Caden, kyle's kid, when Kyle's not looking, I'll bend his arms off. It's freaking weird, doesn't feel it? No, she goes on to say as an adult. Now, looking back, I'm horrified, but I remember that being the best bus ride ever. We got to climb along the back of the seats like we were Spider-Man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's actually pretty cool, Just like climbing on top of the bus like, ah, lord of the Flies. Yeah, it's fun. Not really yeah.
Speaker 1:And the teacher has a heart, the bus driver has a heart attack. You gotta laugh and stuff. You don't take anything seriously because death isn't real yet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's just like oh, big adventure.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:But also they had like a work-level commute to their school An hour to and from for school. I would hate that so much.
Speaker 3:Lunchbox is flying.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's a good thing. That means you got to wake up too early. Yeah, 5 am.
Speaker 2:Depending on what grade it was. You know, some of their backpacks are larger than them, so they could have just landed on all this backpack cushion. Yep yep, that's a good point. They always wear these giant little things. It's like a little kid. And then inside is one folder, one little pen box.
Speaker 1:Yep, and then now they actually have a little pocket for the gun. Yeah, yeah, isn't that nice, A little gun pocket. No, unfortunately the kids now their backpacks have to be clear. Yes, you have to have a clear.
Speaker 3:Are they going into a stadium?
Speaker 1:Poor kids. I'm sorry guys.
Speaker 2:They have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 1:I think they have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 2:States maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just states or school districts, but I'm pretty certain they have to be clear.
Speaker 2:I feel like that's no.
Speaker 3:That's your sacred spot, that's your stuff in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't even sneak your Crocs in anymore. I know Crazy. Well, let's get to an update. Last episode we talked about the helicopter crash from hell, yeah, where the six folks five family members and one pilot who apparently was a veteran crashed into the Hudson after they forgot to screw on the Jesus nut.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, which is that thing that keeps?
Speaker 1:the helicopter together. But good news the New York City helicopter touring company that was responsible for the crash they're advertising a 70% discount on flights. Hey-oh.
Speaker 3:We're slashing the competition.
Speaker 2:We're slashing, isn't that?
Speaker 3:cool, they were slashing themselves.
Speaker 2:Wow yeah, but you know there's people that are gonna take that action right. Well, you're saving money now, yeah there's gonna be like those new yorkers or just people in general that are like all right, what are the chances that like it crashes right now, immediately after that time?
Speaker 1:yeah we've got some leeway room before the next accident happens, at least a week it reminded me what kyle me, where he says his buddy just travels based upon where their last terrorist attack was, because he says after a terrorist attack the city's safer than it's ever been. Yeah, exactly, yep, after 9-11, he's like I'm booking a ticket to New York.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, seriously. Now is the time to get in your $20 helicopter rides around the Hudson.
Speaker 1:You imagine that crashing and all of a sudden you're like and I paid full price, this sucks.
Speaker 2:You're like where is the refund going to go now?
Speaker 1:Well, at least, Bev, we got 70% off. It was nice knowing you.
Speaker 3:Here I am paying for the skies. I'm in the Hudson. I'm getting twice as much.
Speaker 2:Technically it's a twofer.
Speaker 1:When you get on your helicopter, they give you little floaties just in case. Yeah right, that's not good. So it's a helicopter tour company. They were behind a fatal 2018 New York City crash. They're the ones who are slashing the prices after another company, of course, had the massive disaster. This one's called Flynyon. Flynyon what Flynyon?
Speaker 2:Fly Nyon.
Speaker 1:Fly Nyon, fly Nyon, and they're offering 70% off various tours around the city, including trips just like the one offered by the other company that killed everyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:I'm sure they just switch company names all the time so that they're not ever being looked up. I'm sure, like, oh, you're the company that killed everybody again.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I'd probably think of a new name fast.
Speaker 1:I mean, how many helicopters are going around Right, Like they're all sharing helicopters, I bet.
Speaker 2:It's so true it's probably like it's all like three quote unquote rival companies, but they all share the same backyard of helicopters.
Speaker 3:They're hot coptering.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They're hot coptering, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:Like the dudes that rent out the mopeds in South.
Speaker 2:Beach, oh yes. Or the bicycles in LA.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then you get hit by them. You get hit in your heels by them.
Speaker 2:Yeah well, at least they're not all held together by one nut.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's me right now. I'm one nut away from dying, Falling apart completely. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer you would think he has more stuff to do, but he says this is outrageous.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Offering a discount.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, he didn't say it was outrageous for the crash.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but he's just mad about the discount.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like 70%, it should be 85. Really you killed six people.
Speaker 1:Come on, I'm not going to give you come on, he made a whole speech about this. He says listen to this Fly Neon is offering the same kind of flights that just took the lives of these six people, but now, because of the crash, they're given a 70% special discount. Outrageous, outrageous. So maybe he likes it.
Speaker 2:Outrageous, outrageous.
Speaker 1:This is outrageous.
Speaker 2:Come get it now, before it's over.
Speaker 1:Why is he talking about this?
Speaker 2:I have no idea, because he's distracting people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's so much going on. Yeah, wow, but he is really about the prices of the helicopters in New York City. Is he the owner and he's pissed he?
Speaker 2:might be. Who knows, it's a fire sale.
Speaker 1:Yes, indeed, and another update, eric and Lyle Menendez. I believe it's this Thursday. Oh, they are up for resentencing.
Speaker 2:Wow, that was fast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's fast and slow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it was supposed to be in like January, December. It was around Christmas time when they were about to do it, so it's taken a little bit.
Speaker 1:But Loseles county superior court judge michael jessic. Uh, he says everything you argued today is absolutely fair game for the resentencing hearing next thursday. And that was when the prosecution showed a bunch of pictures of jose and kim and endez's body. Oh, just liquefied yeah all messed up. And then eric and lyle were like you didn't tell us you were gonna show that. And then the prosecutor was like well, you did all that. Were like you didn't tell us you were going to show that.
Speaker 3:And then the prosecutor was like well, you did all that? Yeah, we did. They didn't have footage of them getting molested, though, because that would Right.
Speaker 2:That would like pretty much even it out. Yeah exactly that would level the playing field.
Speaker 1:Sure Tape for tape.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let's go to the tape.
Speaker 2:Did you say t of the?
Speaker 1:taint. So they are going to continue to show Jose and Kitty Menendez that's what the prosecution is going to do and be like these are the guys who did it and they're real bad dudes. And then the defense is going to be like, as Kyle just said well, they were all molested.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God. Well, I mean I. I think that's fair, because there has been a lot of like uptalk about like their quote unquote innocence or their like level of defense, because they've been and everyone's been feeling emotional about it. I mean, yeah, that's true, they got molested. This movie came out and showed the horrors of it and then people are kind of forgetting, like, no, no, no, they still destroyed the fuck out of their parents.
Speaker 1:Right. With shotguns I mean it is important to remember.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they should have the dude from Menudo who was molested by Jose Menendez.
Speaker 2:Come on and be able to talk about it too, or like his or like. Wasn't one of their cousins also molested?
Speaker 3:Well, he wasn't molested, but he knew about it.
Speaker 2:So then we should bring those they should talk about that and then also bring up the photos of how they shot their parents. Sure, they were a good shot.
Speaker 1:Absolutely A tit for tat. Yeah Well, what's so interesting? When you become a celebrity, you get to hang out with other celebrities. What and this is kind of fascinating for Lyle Menendez Uh-oh, it turns out that he has a very strong relationship with a certain comedian. Oh, Miss. Pat.
Speaker 2:No, did you say comedian?
Speaker 1:Comedian.
Speaker 2:Saying that it's a whorman.
Speaker 1:Rosie O'Donnell. Hell yeah, that's awesome, isn't that?
Speaker 3:Irish national, rosie O'Donnell, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but they are good friends. Wow. So apparently Rosie has been speaking with Lyle Menendez for years.
Speaker 3:Really? Yes, you guys said he was going to come out and be a gay icon. I think you might be right.
Speaker 2:I said his brother.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's going to take the twist. Lyle's the one with the. He's the bald one. He's the bald one, eric is the tall one who's married to Tammy.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, eric and Tammy O'Donnell. She says he started calling me on a regular basement. He started calling me probably from a basement almost from a basement. He started calling me on a regular basis from the tablet phone thing they have. Then she says he would tell me about his life, what's been going on in prison, and for the first time in my life I felt safe enough to trust and be vulnerable and love a straight man.
Speaker 2:I'm dead. For the first time she felt safe talking to a man behind bars that can't actually reach her in any kind of way.
Speaker 1:A straight man? Yes, wow, so Lyle is the straight man for her.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Because she felt a little unsafe around other straight men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the fuck? The key to this is prison. You know that, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, he killed his. Like he's a double murderer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he's but I just feel so safe.
Speaker 3:But I feel so safe because he up and I'm in Ireland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know how can this go wrong?
Speaker 1:A land where there's no straight men? Yes, so apparently they were discussing the crime on Larry King Live in 1996. The former talk show host said that she believed Lyle and Eric's claim of childhood abuse and molestation by their father and that killing their parents was an act of self-defense. So she was standing on Larry King Live back in 1996. Wow, which is quite interesting, because of course most people were like that's just false and they're just trying to say anything to get out of being found guilty. Yeah, so after her appearance, o'donnell received a letter from Lyle and it thanked her for her support and stated his belief that she knew from a personal place that what he was saying was true. So she says I know you're telling the truth. Oh, rosie O'Donnell 1996.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, I wonder if they just laid low and didn't spend so much money after the deaths. Well, that was the problem Exactly, and that's what made it seem like they were in it just for the money, because they were just going doing everything lavishly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they were kids and they were morons. Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:The actress herself said that she has experienced something similar to Eric and Lyle. Yeah, yeah, she says that she and her siblings had been molested by their father. Oh jeez, isn't that sad? Yeah, so she understands where they're coming from.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:O'Donnell says, at that point I had not ventured anywhere near this in my family or in my therapy, so this case really brought that to the forefront for her.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, Interesting.
Speaker 1:Isn't that fascinating.
Speaker 2:So she didn't shoot her dad with a shotgun.
Speaker 1:She did not oh interesting, not oh interesting, but she was like but I could see how that could make you feel like doing that. Yeah, absolutely right. And then maybe she didn't have maybe the sister, you know, maybe they didn't talk about it. Yeah, yeah and it seemed like eric and lyle they were discussing it, yeah, and then they were like let's go get that gun let's go do the thing it wasn't until 2002, when the siblings case gained new life on tikt TikTok, that the comic reached back out.
Speaker 1:O'Donnell explained that she had heard of the prisoner's wife, rebecca Sneed, who contacted her to see if she was interested in speaking with him.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1:So there you go. So they're having a nice time. Dude his smile is so creepy. It's a creepy smile. It's a creepy smile.
Speaker 2:It is very creepy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, o'donnell, she did say at first she was concerned because he's a murderer, but now she doesn't care.
Speaker 2:Now she's over it. Yeah, she's like yeah. At first it's like scary, but then you know. You just look inside.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look inside. Apparently, lyle talked to O'Donnell, talked O'Donnell into getting a dog for her son Clay, through a prison program he was involved in. Wow, the inmates were working to train dogs and I guess she got one of the dogs, so she's got.
Speaker 2:Lyle's dog. Wow, she's got a prison dog. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Clay was paired with a Labrador mix that was trained by a man who was in prison for armed robbery. Okay, so it wasn't exactly his dog, but it was a man who was in prison for armed robbery. Yeah, I don't know if they let murderers have the dog.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is ballsy that you know this is a resentencing, not a pardoning, I know, but if this doesn't go through, their next hope is to get pardoned. But they're now associating with the one person the president hates the most. So I don't know if that's such a good look, someone that ran.
Speaker 1:Only Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, that was America, america, america. Here we are. So, o'donnell says I noticed the difference in Clay immediately that's her son when he got the dog. She says I was so shocked to find out all these tall tales I heard from other mothers of autistic children were true.
Speaker 2:Wait what.
Speaker 1:Her kid's autistic.
Speaker 2:But she said all of the tall tales that were true.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know all the tall tales that mothers of autistic children talk about are true.
Speaker 2:I thought she was going to say all the tall tales that mothers talk about are not fully. Maybe she's talking about the tall tales that mothers talk about are not fully.
Speaker 3:Maybe she's talking about the.
Speaker 1:Tall tales are definitely true. Okay, this is. There was a new documentary that came out. It's called Unleashing Hope the power of service dogs for autism. Hope was on a leash, yeah.
Speaker 3:Now unleashed it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unleash hope, wow. So apparently, if you're autistic, get yourself a service dog. Things are going to be good for you.
Speaker 2:Isn't that nice. That is very nice.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, this is her film. It comes on the heels of her moving to Ireland once again.
Speaker 2:Fantastic.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of a strange, that's strange.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you never know who's connected in this world.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:And you're like huh, look at those two. We didn't picture them as friends, but okay.
Speaker 1:Indeed, yeah, they're having a great time, sounds like it, and Clay is happy with the dog that Lyle sent.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:We'll keep you updated, hopefully by the end of this week.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we hope you know something, yes.
Speaker 1:Because again it seems as if it's been a lot.
Speaker 2:It's kind of interesting. If they get out. They're going to be in LA.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're going to be hanging out. They're going to hang out at the Ha Ha Club. It's going to be great. Where do you think they're going to go?
Speaker 3:first. They're probably going to get memberships right away at the Soho House and just hang out there looking for more documentaries about themselves.
Speaker 2:That actually sounds right. We're going to do more documentaries about themselves.
Speaker 1:We'd have to kill again. I don't know it's interesting, but she's in Ireland so they can't even really hang out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's by design.
Speaker 3:For three and a half years at least.
Speaker 1:Well, speaking of Donald Trump, this next story is quite interesting. A Wisconsin teen, my home state, the land of cheese and beer.
Speaker 3:Wow, and serial killers? Nice, yes, it's cold.
Speaker 1:So a Wisconsin teen and this is also involving murder of parents a Wisconsin teen allegedly murdered his mother and stepfather. Why? To obtain financial means and autonomy necessary to kill Donald Trump.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:Wait, whoa, okay, there's a lot there's a lot. There's a lot to unpack here there really is Nikita Gassop, 17 years old.
Speaker 1:They were arrested in March and charged with two counts of first-degree murder and two counts of hiding a corpse after killing his mother, tatiana, and stepfather Donald in their Waukesha home.
Speaker 2:That's so messed up, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:right Waukesha, just outside of Milwaukee, a nice little suburb area.
Speaker 2:Did their parents like vote for Trump, even I think he just wanted the money to go kill Donald Trump, he could have.
Speaker 3:Ask for a co-sign on a loan or a credit card.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he could have done. He could have got emancipated. There's so many routes you could take.
Speaker 1:There's a lot.
Speaker 2:Why is the first thing?
Speaker 1:yeah, I gotta take my parents out, yeah.
Speaker 2:Can't dig into my mom's purse if she's alive.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what happened to just stealing from your mother's purse?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're just not killing the president.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you know oh yeah, yeah, it's America, all right. Well, we're talking about just step one.
Speaker 3:Step one yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Step one is really let's just go through the logic of each step.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, he needs to attain finances.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yes.
Speaker 1:He needs finances? Yeah, but he didn't get a job. He could have gone the Wendy's route. Yeah, maybe automation screwed him over. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So after he killed his mother and stepfather, he slashed their bullet-ridden bodies under blankets for weeks. So he hid them under blankets, uh-oh.
Speaker 2:In the house I guess in the house, that's not—that smell's going to come to get you pretty fast, oh at some point.
Speaker 1:yeah, they're just like where are your parents? That's the kid. Yeah, he's a scary kid.
Speaker 2:Looking at the photo he looks. Yeah, he looks pretty scary.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean he's got the flat jacket on. He's like you know, it's not the most appealing outfit, right? No, but it's gonna take a turn here. Okay, called for the assassination of trump and the start of a revolution, to quote, save the white race. Oh, okay, wait. So he wanted to martyr trump and then be like hey hey, now we're going to have a race war, and now me, Nikita is going to save the white race.
Speaker 2:Okay, where is this name from I don't know.
Speaker 1:Russia. Yeah, he looks Russian, Probably Russian, yeah. So then the teen he was scrawling. So there's a bunch of drawings. They're calling them scrawlings, which I assume just means bad drawings.
Speaker 2:Scrawlings, scrawlings, which, I assume, just means bad drawings, scrawlings.
Speaker 1:Scrawlings, scrawlings.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He had a lot of images of Adolf Hitler, and then this was the following text. It said Hail Hitler, hail the white race, hail victory. So he was hailing a lot of stuff. What a weather report, wow.
Speaker 2:Maybe Just not himself, definitely not himself, definitely not his parents either. I guess his parents really didn't vote for Trump. There's a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is a whole roundabout way to start a race for him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like yeah, we'll just do the necessary, like martyr things. He's just a pawn in the game of life, just a larger plan.
Speaker 1:Which I wonder if that one idiot who tried to kill Trump. I wonder if that was his plan also. I don't know. These guys are a little wacky.
Speaker 3:They're not thinking because the opposite side is looking at Trump like he's the new Hitler. So then you're going to kill the new Hitler and praise the old one.
Speaker 1:Well then, but God, it's tough. 17-year-old Waukesha boy tried to get into the brain. I, yeah, yes, tried to get into the brain. I think he thinks people are going to be so mad they're going to take up firearms, and then everyone was just going to kill everyone that isn't white, and then vice versa, oh, and then the race war will start. Wow.
Speaker 2:The race, war will start, and then the white people will win.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It ends with the white people winning.
Speaker 1:Well, in his little, in his lore, right, yeah, investigators say he was in touch with other parties about his plan to kill the president and overthrow the government of the United States.
Speaker 2:Was he trying to be the president? Yeah, he was going to be the president. Oh, so he's trying to be the new Hitler.
Speaker 1:I guess so. And then they say and he paid for, at least in part, a drone and explosives to be used as a weapon of mass destruction, oh damn, To commit the attack.
Speaker 2:Oh damn.
Speaker 1:So he's on it that is messed up.
Speaker 2:I mean now that they've caught him.
Speaker 1:This is a lot.
Speaker 2:This kid's going to be stuffed in a shoebox.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really is what you writing in there. Hey, Nikita, what you writing in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Just sometimes ask your kid what's in their little notebooks. It's not, nikita, what you writing in there. Yeah, just sometimes ask your kid what's in their little notebooks it's not Nikita, it's Nikita. Nikita, so they say other parties with whom Kassop was in contact appeared to have been aware of his plan and action and they provided assistance to Kassop in carrying them out. So he had a whole crew of morons.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow, oh my God. They probably really believed in him, like he is the new Hitler or something. Yeah, he thought he had disciples.
Speaker 1:Well, the facial hair isn't matching up. He's very young. He's got that young hair, yeah, yeah. See the grease. It's just a, you know, teenager, teenage boy, hair is greasy, it's always greasy.
Speaker 2:They Teenage boy hair is greasy. It's always greasy. They're always so oily, yeah Zitty.
Speaker 3:They're nervous.
Speaker 1:Clammy, A little sweaty yeah sweaty. What are you so nervous about? Oh, I'm trying to start a race war.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of work and it's a lot of pressure Talking to girls.
Speaker 1:I'm talking to girls trying to start a race war.
Speaker 2:You know, you know race, for you know Trying to fight this boner.
Speaker 1:Authorities also uncovered materials on the teen's phone related to the Order of the Nine Angles. Wow, it's a network of individuals holding new Nazi, racially motivated, extremist views. Oh God.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're Donald Trump, you're like aren't?
Speaker 1:you supposed to be one of my people.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, and you're going to kill me too.
Speaker 1:You're going to kill, kill me. Does anybody want me alive other than dana white right? So he faced his charges, including uh well, obviously, murder, um, and uh yeah, apparently he just wanted ten thousand dollars. Oh gee, that's all he thought it was gonna take.
Speaker 2:Could have ten thousand bucks he really could have gotten that without murdering his parents. But there's definitely something a little more deep-seated in there.
Speaker 1:This kid's got to work out oh yeah, he's gonna have a lot of time to work that out there is a lot more reason that he killed his parents yep police performed a welfare check at the family's home february 28th, after the teen was absent from the waukesha west high school for two weeks. Oh wow, so he've got to pretend like everything's okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mistake number one.
Speaker 1:You've got your stepdad and your mom rotting under a bunch of blankets, you've got to go to school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the weird thing about it you do. You have to be exactly the same student. You were Not any better, not any worse.
Speaker 1:Everything's just fine, still kind of creepy. Perfect, nice Yep Parents probably still alive, probably Cops. Found the teenager's mom buried under piles of clothes and a blanket in the hallway near the kitchen. That is so gross, with multiple shots to the neck, upper torso, abdomen and right wrist Damn. So maybe the right wrist may have been a defensive wound and, as you can see in the mugshot, he does have acne.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He has a lot of acne.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then Kasim's stepfather was discovered in the home's first floor office with a gunshot wound to the head. So, he was just hanging out with these bodies for like weeks.
Speaker 2:Dude, he did a school shooting in his own house. What an asshole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, both bodies were decomposed beyond recognition, forcing authorities to use other methods to confirm their identity. Like their teeth. Yeah, like their teeth Hair. He has not yet entered a plea, but it don't look good, does not? Look good.
Speaker 2:He should. Yeah, no, Take away any pen and paper from this kid.
Speaker 3:No more scrawlings for you. No more scrawlings.
Speaker 2:Jotting down ideas.
Speaker 3:Iroglyphics.
Speaker 1:Well, speaking of school, this story is interesting. Athletics.
Speaker 2:Things I don't have.
Speaker 1:You do. You're very good at yoga.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1:That's a very athletic thing to do.
Speaker 2:I can do self-athletics. I'm not good in team sports.
Speaker 1:Yes, and nor was this child we're going to speak about, but I do want to ask the question if something happens in a basketball game or a football game, should you be charged with a felony? What depends a west virginia high school basketball player. He is facing a felony charge for repeatedly fouling one of his opponents. Apparently he fouled the guy so hard he broke his nose wow, and now he's been arrested. His name is gage ketterman. Wow, and he.
Speaker 2:Wow, and he's 18 years old Dude, Gage Ketterman, 18 years old, pumped on steroids. He was born to be pumped on steroids. Be punching guys on the fucking court, Gage yeah.
Speaker 1:It's both a cool name and a douchey name, yeah, but it can kind of go either. It's very superhero-ish.
Speaker 2:Kind of Gage. Anyway, he's a West Virginia high school athlete either.
Speaker 1:It's very superhero-ish Kind of Gage Anyway.
Speaker 2:He's a West Virginia high school athlete, oh my god, is that him that's? Him Just seeing a picture.
Speaker 1:This episode has a lot of scary whites Wow, I see that. Yes, between Rosie O'Donnell and Gage.
Speaker 2:Just flaring those nostrils away.
Speaker 1:Go on A West Virginia high school student. He's facing adult felony charges after he allegedly elbowed his opponent in the face, breaking his nerves, during a basketball game. My question again is it's I don't know. I feel like it's a sacred space.
Speaker 2:That's a sacred space.
Speaker 1:Where you kind of get to get away with a little bit of violence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, isn't that why you guys do sports to begin with? Right? That's literally the point.
Speaker 1:That's why they always say, well, put that boy in sports. He's got a lot of gumption.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got to work out a lot of that energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, otherwise he's going to become a serial. You know something?
Speaker 2:A serial, what, what?
Speaker 1:Something Killer or that's.
Speaker 2:Yes, so he's 18. He was at the Harmon School. He was arrested on Monday for the alleged in-game attack. I wonder how they decided to. I guess the kid that took the hit went home very upset and their parents decided to press charges, or?
Speaker 1:something Apparently the kid that he elbowed in the nose. His nose was bleeding for four hours and then his parents had to bring him to the hospital, and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But it happened during the heat of the moment.
Speaker 2:But they said he kept on doing it. Is he one of those things where— Well, you get six, you get six a game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you get six fouls a game.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Make them count.
Speaker 3:Unless you get technicals, then you get two or one, depending on the rules.
Speaker 1:And there's no word If this game I think the ref was like play on. So West Virginia State Police they were notified about the assault February 27th after the injury was reported by the student's mother. I'm just not sure about this.
Speaker 2:But it's like I said, if he did it with malicious intent, like he already planned to be hurting this kid as much as possible before he even started the game, he wasn't scrolling in his notebook before the game. I don't believe he wasn't scrolling in his notebook before the game. I don't believe he could have been plotting in his brain he could have been plotting.
Speaker 1:Could have been plotting. The woman claimed her son was elbowed in the face yeah, the victim's nose reportedly bleeding profusely, as I said, for more than four hours, and there was some video from the game that was reviewed by state police.
Speaker 2:I want to see.
Speaker 1:And they said that the jab was directly in the face of the opposing player. Damn Throughout the game. The clip has also showed him allegedly taunting multiple players by striking them in the back of the head. God what a bully. Yeah, I don't think he really understood what basketball is.
Speaker 3:Or he was watching a lot of 1980s NBA, because this used to happen all the time. There would be one person that went out, they were called the enforcer and they would go elbow people in the face until the other team fought them True.
Speaker 1:Anthony Mason, new York Knicks. Baby, let's go.
Speaker 3:It's frowned upon in today's sports. It's not. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It is. If the kid needs a frickin' mugshot, I think he needs a talkin' to and be like. That's not what athletics is all about.
Speaker 3:I don't even know if this is the kid's mugshot. I think this is him with, like his basketball shot.
Speaker 1:Well, he's scary, he's a terrifying gentleman. Yeah, I think it's a mugshot, but maybe not.
Speaker 3:It looks like I don't know the walls of my gym, so it does look like a school mug shot. Like right in front of the vent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, yeah that's where you want to put your butt, yeah Yum. Authorities noted that in the video, ketterman can be seen quote wiping something off the elbow he had just used to strike the union player.
Speaker 2:Damn Like what.
Speaker 1:Like his boogers, blood Like pins, and needles. Yeah, I don't know. I mean just to arrest the kid. The officers concluded that Ketterman's actions seemed quote intentional and criminally malicious in nature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just I want to see. I want to see footage.
Speaker 3:I've been trying to find it. I can't Damn. I couldn't find any either.
Speaker 2:I guess, maybe because now it's like police evidence or something.
Speaker 1:Maybe also. I think everyone else is probably underage, but does that stop footage? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:So because Ketterman was 18 at the time of the incident, he's going to be charged as an adult. But again, they don't even say if he was kicked out of the game, right? I don't know, I just don't know if arresting is the right way to go in this case.
Speaker 3:I mean it's also on. Like the coach, if you're seeing a kid, that's that out of control. You've got to take him out of the game.
Speaker 2:You've got to do what's going on. He should have pulled him back a couple of hits ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he should be bopping people in the back of the head. It's basketball.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:Should have gotten into wrestling, but even in wrestling you can't do that.
Speaker 3:One malicious assault and two attempted malicious assaults. So he swung and missed a couple times. I guess.
Speaker 1:It's not that common to get felony charges while playing a basketball game. No, I've never heard of it. No, but I guess that's the new world we're living in. Granted, he broke somebody's nose, but that went for four hours.
Speaker 2:I mean, did he try tilting his head up and squeezing it yeah. For a little bit, Because if you prematurely just stop doing that, it's going to keep bleeding. Man, For four hours. It wasn't like a river of blood.
Speaker 1:I think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 2:You think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 1:The mom was like it's a river of blood.
Speaker 3:It wouldn't stop for four hours.
Speaker 2:It's a river of blood. It wouldn't stop for four hours. What if it was just like? Every time he took the little nose, the paper tissue glops in his nostrils pulled it out it was still red. He's like still bleeding, Still bleeding. And then he puts another one in there, hangs out, plays video games. Hour later still bleeding, Still red glops, Still red glops. And then he just puts another one in and mom's like oh my god, you've been bleeding for four hours now.
Speaker 1:Four hours.
Speaker 2:We have to go to the hospital. Yeah, it could have been like that it could have been like that.
Speaker 1:I think also the guy who got hit should have. Just you had to hit him back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, stand up for yourself, damn it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, then his mom, his mom had to go report him to the police. Anyway, I don't know, don't know that just happened he does it does.
Speaker 2:He does also seem like a loose screw where he's like. His energy is maybe hinting. Juvenile detention yeah, yeah so maybe you know, bring, bring him in, teach him like, give him a smack on the wrist and be like hey, maybe you start learning how to play sports or take up fucking boxing boxing, there we go, yeah, you need something a little bit more combat yeah, yeah, concentrated focus that
Speaker 1:yeah well, speaking of violence, not all violence involves blood. No, or punching, or elbowing.
Speaker 2:Words are violence. Ben. Yeah, because sometimes you can beat someone with an orange and it doesn't leave bruises.
Speaker 1:Yeah, true, very true. Okay, great, good to know. There was a fella. He was an apprentice at a garage. His name was Brooklyn Forrester Hayes. He claimed yes, brooklyn Forrester Hayes, fancy. Yeah, that's cool, he's not from around here, this is over across the pond.
Speaker 2:Oh gotcha.
Speaker 1:Yes, brooklyn Forrester Hayes. He was real mad because he says a coworker has been tampering with his lunch. Oh yeah, and he didn't like that one bit. Oh no, yes, he was 21 years old, he is. He's real pissed off and he started making threats towards the other employees, telling him he would mess up anyone's toolbox and damage his bike if he found out that that person was messing with his lunch.
Speaker 2:Not messing with my lunch, not messing with his toolbox.
Speaker 1:Yes, he said he was going to mess with this guy's toolbox and damage his bike. Forrester Hayes was fired from his role at the Scania Truck Depot after bosses saw the abusive messages he had been sending. Abusive, yes, wow. He took the firm to an employment tribunal, claiming he was unfairly dismissed and that there was a culture of banter at Scania.
Speaker 2:Right, right, what drove him over the edge. So he well, no, he was saying that was like a facetious thing where he wasn't like I'm gonna mess up. He's like all right, guys, stop taking my fucking electronic and mess with your toolbox. There's going to be a Jesus nut missing from your bike.
Speaker 1:So they said pranks are common.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And Forrester Hayes was handed a final warning and said hey, you better stop threatening these people, okay? He then grabbed him by the collar and held on before a supervisor intervened.
Speaker 2:So he's grabbing this guy stop messing with my lunch. Well, now that's turning into something else.
Speaker 1:Yes. Shortly after starting his shift on July 2023, he went to the tea room for a drink and found that his lunch bag had been tampered with. He found his crisps those are, chips smashed, chocolate bars crushed, and someone had opened his sandwich box and poked finger-sized holes through the sandwiches.
Speaker 3:You know, they licked their finger before they did it too. Yeah, he got all mad, that's why he was all mad.
Speaker 1:I'd be pissed too. Yeah, they also opened up tea bags and sprinkled tea leaves all over his lunch bag.
Speaker 2:All right, that's messed up. It's messed up. Yeah, I'm starting to see why he threatened people's toolboxes and their bike and their bike, which is pretty adorable. They're messing with our food.
Speaker 1:It's like Wallace and Gromit yeah, food. It's like Wallace and Gromit yeah. Forrester Hayes says, quote he was super upset, dismayed and angry and now had no food until he got home.
Speaker 2:And then he was hangry on top of that. Oh my God, You're looking forward to that sandwich in the fridge. Four hours of work you finally get your lunch break. Everyone's annoying you. You're like I want a fucking sandwich. I want that. And then you discover that it's been tampered with.
Speaker 1:The only thing I will say when it comes to the crisps I don't mind a nice smashed up bag of chips. No, Kind of take it down that way. No, I need my chip.
Speaker 2:I need them to be whole.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when they're crunched, I need my teeth to be the crunchers of the chip. Yes, but it's a little easier sometimes if you just crunch them, crunch them, crunch them and then open it up and you just pour them into your mouth.
Speaker 2:Nah, no, no, no, no, no. I want the satisfaction of feeling this like very fragile chip just crack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I get depressed getting to the end of the bag of chips when it's all just like the crushed up part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Because into your mouth it's a crunch.
Speaker 3:There's still crunch.
Speaker 2:No, it's like already pre-chewed for you.
Speaker 3:It's pre-crunched, it's not wet, it's almost, because it's like pretty much all oil too.
Speaker 2:It is almost wet.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, he thinks the same way that you guys think, because he threw the contents of the lunchbox in the bin, which is the garbage. He said I hate this, I hate this this year, that's it. Forrester Hayes assumed the culprit was an apprentice on the early shift and told the colleague I'm going to fuck him up for it. Then he says, quote if I see his fucking toolbox open tomorrow, I'm gonna fuck up everything up in there. So he's gonna mess with his tools.
Speaker 2:What are you gonna do? Bend the screws. How do you mess with the screws Like you just draw a dick on each one of them.
Speaker 1:I can't use this anymore. He put a cock on it. So Forrester Hayes, he sent messages to everyone on the early shift asking them if they knew who was responsible. In a Snapchat message to an apprentice he suspected, he says if I find out it was you, your toolbox is fucked. He is so mad he's going to go after the guy's toolbox. He's going to go after the toolbox, which is wow. That's pretty aggressive stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't understand what he's going to do.
Speaker 3:I feel bad for this guy because, like every group of friends in a guy's group, we all have had someone where, like you, just fuck with them all the time because of their reaction and you're like this is adorable you're gonna fuck up my toolbox yeah, and it's like they do kind of, the more they get upset, the more it's kind of hilarious.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly it gets funnier and funnier. And you don't mean for it, and but they get that one day they just snap yeah, dude man, it's been all love this whole time. Why do you come on yeah? Look at what you do? You start adding the fluffy shit to our fucking wrenches. Yeah you just, you just attach cotton to everything so it's not sharp anymore like that's your revenge.
Speaker 1:Someone's last words are like but, I was nice to you for. But I was nice to you, forrester, I was nice to you, not nice enough, yep. So he says if it was you, you're paying for my lunch and if you don't, I'll cut your tire valves off. He's going to cut tire valves off.
Speaker 2:That's a little more than messing with my toolbox, buddy.
Speaker 1:It is In an exchange of messages with another colleague. He said the culprit had fucked up all my food for tonight. And then the colleague replied yeah, that's a bit much. I would only do the crisps at worst, not everything. So he's like I'll fuck with your crisps. He's got some decency.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like oh man, that was bad form. See, if it were me, this is how I would attack the lunchbox.
Speaker 1:Right, put a lock on your lunchbox. Yeah, this is adorable. So then, forrester Hayes, they had a tribunal. They're calling this a garage tribunal. A tribunal, yes, which I can only imagine.
Speaker 2:There's like an emergency bell that's never rang. Yeah Ringing it.
Speaker 1:My God, it's time for a tribunal. We haven't had one in 25 years. Yeah, so he says I have ADHD. He's like I have ADHD everybody. That's why he was saying some of those things impulsively.
Speaker 2:First of all, isn't that Tourette's? It could be? First of all, isn't that Tourette's? It could be?
Speaker 1:Second of all.
Speaker 2:So he got the fake diagnosis wrong.
Speaker 1:Perhaps. But ADHD, you are a little impulsive, I have it, I'm impulsively fun, do you tell people you're going to ruin their lunchboxes or their toolboxes?
Speaker 2:No, no, thinks back, has to remember about it. I don't know anyone that works no. No.
Speaker 3:Thinks back has to remember about it.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I don't know anyone that works, but this is what I'm talking about. This is part of the reaction, so this is going to get him made fun of even more, because they'll be like oh I'm sorry, I have ADHD. There you go.
Speaker 1:What's? The guy who said he was autistic and that's why he killed her? Goldberger, yeah, yeah, that's right four people. I'm autistic, okay. So he said at the time he was so impulsive he quote did not stop to think about the consequences of the messages. The following day, a foreman asked all of the apprentices if they knew what happened to the lunch did anyone fess up?
Speaker 2:nobody wow well, yeah because it's gone too far oh it's when you can. Once it starts avalanching like this, then you fully pull back and you hope no one makes eye contact with you.
Speaker 1:Just one dude with a little pickle under his nails Hoping to do a DNA test. So no one owned up to that, but some did say they received some messages that were abusive.
Speaker 2:Oh they would, oh, they would, oh, they would, yeah, oh, oh, I know, okay. So this whole time I've been thinking about how to fuck with someone's toolbox in a cute way, pouring honey all over the tools.
Speaker 3:Oh, that would fuck everything up. Winnie the Pooh it. I'd be so pissed.
Speaker 2:Or just smashing a banana into all of it. That would work. Yeah, because it'd be so annoying to just get everything out and you got to just clean everything. It's still going to get sticky Flies are going to get on it. You're never going to fully get all the banana out. It's always going to smell like banana in your toolbox.
Speaker 1:And that's really the only way to combat a food crime is with more food. Anyway, he was fired and now he is claiming that he was unfairly dismissed and that the investigation that the tribunal again. I would love to know who these people are was inadequate, and the managers did not take his ADHD into account before they made the decision.
Speaker 2:Let me see a prescription.
Speaker 1:Yes, the tribunal ruled that his bosses were entitled to conclude his behavior was unacceptable and that dismissal was necessary.
Speaker 2:What tribunal? It sounds like they took car grease and painted on their faces for this fucking ritual. The tribunal, yes.
Speaker 1:It was very serious.
Speaker 2:So so serious.
Speaker 1:It's very serious.
Speaker 2:And then, meanwhile, this kid is pulling a Ross. He's just like my sandwich Gets fired over it. It's just like my sandwich, he gets fired over it.
Speaker 1:It's just amazing.
Speaker 3:What a great time. All he did was get mad that people were fucking with his stuff.
Speaker 1:I mean they fingered his sandwich.
Speaker 3:I'm with him. The tribunal should have stood up for him.
Speaker 1:He said I'm going to destroy your toolbox and shit.
Speaker 2:If I were the boss I would have been like, hey, if I see any destroyed toolboxes, pretty much going to know it was you, it was you. Yeah, Told everyone you would do it.
Speaker 3:And it's all empty threats. Look at this kid he's adorable, he's so cute. That's why they're fucking with him.
Speaker 1:He's not that adorable.
Speaker 3:He's got a baby face.
Speaker 1:It's just so mad when it gets all red and angry.
Speaker 2:He's one of those people that is like I'm not crying because I just get. I tear up when I'm angry.
Speaker 1:I cry when I get mad. Yeah, yeah, those guys are funny. That is me though. Yeah, totally. You get all red faced. Then you just talk about it nonstop for like three freaking months, like we know, kyle, yes, oh, god damn, anyway, all damn, anyway, all right. Well, let's see Anything from the chat. Yes, should basketball players be arrested on the court now?
Speaker 3:Well, chris G said, did we learn nothing from the eyebrow incident?
Speaker 1:regarding this, Great, it's so true, this is the eyebrow type guy you just don't.
Speaker 2:All over again.
Speaker 1:But I do understand You're hungry and lunch and but I would be pissed, I would be pissed. Yeah, I would be pissed. It's kind of funny. Yeah, but also come on.
Speaker 3:Jeff says ban him for the season. No charges for the kid that was throwing elbows around.
Speaker 1:Okay, there you go. I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3:His tourniquet says he was Okay. I agree with that.
Speaker 2:Whether or not legal, we don't know. He had huge nostrils. She said the nostrils are giving bowling ball sniffer, the nostrils are giving eight ball sniffer. But yeah sure, whatever.
Speaker 3:In response to the Menendez brothers being friends with Rosie O'Donnell, they said for the pardon, they're going to be schmoozing with Roseanne Barr.
Speaker 2:So they'll be on Trump's good side then. Oh yes, that's right, oh bar so they'll be on Trump's good side then.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, that's right, it's a tale of two roses, yes.
Speaker 3:And then a lot of people talk about the Karen Reid documentary.
Speaker 1:Oh yes, so you were saying that has now been moved.
Speaker 3:Yes, the trial was going to start tomorrow, but they released one juror, so they're down to 15. They're going to need 16 to 18 before the trial starts, so that's going to continue tomorrow.
Speaker 2:That is annoying.
Speaker 1:I've got a bunch of DMs about that and we will be covering it, because Kyle knows a lot, jerry knows a lot, yeah, and I think she looks kind of cute. But apparently you guys don't like her very much, but you also don't think she's guilty.
Speaker 3:I like her. I don't mind that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, there's a lot about her presentation and her just delivery of her natural personality. Is it screaming likable? No, and because of that it's not. It's like people are using that unlikability to be like she's guilty.
Speaker 3:That bitch is guilty.
Speaker 2:I think she's not super likable as a person, but I do think she's innocent, yes, super likable as a person, but I do think she's innocent.
Speaker 1:Yes, all right. Well, we will be covering that story. Thank you all so much for joining our Monday episode. We will be back tomorrow and we're going to have a great week ahead. Okay, everyone, hail yourself. We'll talk to you soon. Bye, bye.