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Episode 54: When Ghost Hunters Die, Do They Finally Find Themselves?
Deadmau5 gave Coachella attendees more than they bargained for when the Canadian DJ delivered a performance that quickly went viral—not for his signature electronic beats, but for repeatedly falling over his equipment while visibly intoxicated. The 44-year-old producer (real name Joel Thomas Zimmerman) later took to social media with refreshing candor, joking that while he remembered nothing of the night, at least he "didn't have a cig," calling it a personal victory amid the chaos.
Meanwhile, Tiger King's Joe Exotic has found love in the most unexpected place—prison. The incarcerated zookeeper tied the knot with Jorge Flores Maldonado, a fellow inmate serving time for immigration issues. Complete with tuxedos and matching white boutonnieres, the ceremony marks a new chapter for Exotic, who proudly shared photos of their union online. Maldonado has already stated he's willing to follow his new husband to Mexico if they're both released, adding another twist to Exotic's already colorful life story.
The digital era continues creating disturbing new challenges as teenagers employ AI "nudify" apps to generate fake nude images of classmates. These applications, which received over 200 million visits in just six months, create realistic-looking nudes from simple headshots, causing psychological harm to victims. We also explore the strange case of a Polish woman claiming to be Madeline McCann who's now facing stalking charges for harassing the missing girl's family. Between paranormal investigators passing to the other side and disturbing true crime cases, this episode examines how technology and human behavior continue to intersect in unexpected—and sometimes troubling—ways.
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Speaker 2:We just got some nice dogs.
Speaker 1:We did get a lot of nice dogs.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that's not a euphemism for anything. They're actual dogs.
Speaker 2:No, they're actual doggos.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, speaking of Deadmau5 and Coachella, what a fun night he had.
Speaker 2:He had such a good night he doesn't remember it.
Speaker 1:And I love that for him. For those that don't know, are you under a rock? Have you been under a rock?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Deadmau5 has been pretty big for a long time. He's a Canadian DJ, yeah, because when I think DJ, he makes awesome house music.
Speaker 1:He does.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Is there such thing?
Speaker 1:Well, oh my God, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:All right, limp Bizkit Jr. Thank you.
Speaker 1:That is a good point. Kyle did say that Corey Feldman impressed him.
Speaker 3:It was very impressive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, kyle, but then Jerry's pushback also does reign, true.
Speaker 2:And, honestly, deadmau5 impressed me at Coachella.
Speaker 1:Oh, deadmau5,. Canadian DJ. Real name Joel Thomas Zimmerman.
Speaker 2:Joel JT Zimmerman.
Speaker 3:JT Zimmerman the names are never as good as the stage names.
Speaker 2:Justin Timberlake Zimmerman. What about him?
Speaker 1:Yep, he went with Deadmau5 there and he got all drunk right and he was having a lot of fun. And let's just listen to a little bit of his clip, because this is what you go to Coachella for. Yeah, you go for the disaster, you go for the calamity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everyone was like we paid hundreds of dollars to see an elite performance from Deadmau5. And instead we got Dude those pretty drunk on stage.
Speaker 1:You got what you deserved.
Speaker 2:Honestly.
Speaker 1:Every one of them.
Speaker 2:It's a festival.
Speaker 1:He has to have fun. Yeah, all right, let's play Deadmau5. First fall. So he just kind of falls off the stage there a bunch. Just a little stumbly stump, and then he continues to fall off the stage.
Speaker 2:Well, this one, he just kind of folds over the turntables.
Speaker 3:And his hands are still twisting the knobs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then he just stays like that, yeah completely face first down.
Speaker 3:He's in a K-hole.
Speaker 1:That is how talented he is, though the music is still sounding okay.
Speaker 2:The music is still awesome.
Speaker 3:It's still flowing through him, I love that Do we have any of him talking? Yeah, it's about to come up. He falls over Right now. He's on the ground, but he's about to grab a mic Because they're like, cut the music.
Speaker 1:Don't want to cut that music. Never cut the music from Legends, legends he sounds canadian all right dead mouse. Thank you, dead mouse get him off. I said I want on Keep him on the stage. This is what you pay for. This Coachella has been a total clusterfuck. I mean, I know very, very little about any of it, but I feel like this would be the thing that you want to go see. You want to see everyone kind of fall apart, get super fucked up, because what is it? Is it day like 19?
Speaker 2:How long has this been going on for? It's been going. It goes on for like for like, every every summer solstice weekend that there is in the summer. I don't know what that means, but it happens a lot, it feels like.
Speaker 1:He's just been fucked up for like 15 straight days.
Speaker 2:And it's also yeah, and it's also like he's not the only person in this like it's a goddamn festival.
Speaker 1:It's a festival. He's hanging out with all the rock stars backstage getting hammered. That's the show.
Speaker 2:That's the show.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want to. Who cares what happens on the stage? Yeah, I actually wouldn't care.
Speaker 2:I want to see crowd one second, I mean I'm not a festival person in general at all, just because I can't stand the I've already. I'm walking like three miles from stage to stage, drunken 21 year olds just running around kicking dirt around each other because it's cute and fun for them, and then porta potties, oh, porta potty. Everything is a very long line. I can't I can't.
Speaker 1:no, I want to see every one of the outfits that they post being like look, look at this chick and how cute she is. I want to see her when she has to dump and I want to see what she has to unstrap in order to get into that nasty ass porta potty.
Speaker 2:She needs like two girlfriends to help unzip some random shit, untie some bows.
Speaker 1:It's worse than your wedding night, because at the end you just get VD, you don't get married yeah.
Speaker 2:Although I will say they are pretty protected with their like giant platform boots, because they're like three feet off the ground with boots so they're not really touching any of like the gross stuff on the floor oh, that's good. So that always makes me feel better. That is a very I do really like the rave outfits. They're so cute. Oh they're cute. I would just want to wear them to, like you know, a dive bar on a Tuesday.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so. The EDM producer. He's 44. He says I don't remember anything, but he does say this but I don't think I had a cig, so that's good, I guess that's hilarious. So he did not have a cigarette. So Deadmau5, you won you win the night.
Speaker 2:He was pretty, he was a successful junk person, without being like, hey, who's got a cigarette? He, he was like who's got the beat? Oh, wait me.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's my job. That's right. Isn't that impressive.
Speaker 2:It is pretty impressive. You know some people when they run around drunk they're like I want a cigarette, yes, and maybe this was something he was trying really hard to let go of. And he's like oh, I'm worried about getting drunk because I'm just going to want a cigarette.
Speaker 1:And I told myself, I'd quit. And I like him because he's funny. He says, quote going back to bed wake me up around Thursday-ish. He's like I'm sleeping for three days. Fuck you, I'm dead mouse. I'm literally dead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no literally, I'm a mouse that's dead.
Speaker 1:So hopefully everyone's having fun. He said that's probably his last Coachella set, but bring him back.
Speaker 2:Who gives a shit? What are you talking?
Speaker 1:about For why? Yeah, he says, probably my last Coachella show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's funny. He has a nice sense of humor about it. Yeah, who cares? Coachella's going to be like. Oh my God, you're not even the worst fucking artist to have fallen over the stage this year, you're fine. Yeah, he wasn't.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:You know what? All of those TikToks? Not one cigarette.
Speaker 1:Unbelievable. I'm so fucking proud of him. Good job, Dan. It's about the little victories.
Speaker 2:It really is.
Speaker 1:Didn't break a leg, didn't break an arm.
Speaker 2:Honestly as much as he fell over, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he was drinking a lot of whiskey, which is although when I think of EDM music, I don't think of whiskey as the booze that goes with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I would think more like vodka jello shots.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he says dude, that whiskey, I can't lol.
Speaker 2:I can't, he didn't.
Speaker 1:He is so funny. He says, man, even my cat is disappointed in me, and he shows a picture of his cat.
Speaker 2:That's a picture of his cat, yeah.
Speaker 1:He says man, even my cat is disappointed in me, though it could be argued that she's always been, which is true. He says sorry about last night, lol. To be fair, I felt the first three-fourths was great. Fair, I felt the first three-fourths was great.
Speaker 2:Out of the entire four and a half hours set, I think of the first solid 15 minutes. They happened. I remember those and it was going pretty well, from what I remember.
Speaker 1:Yep, he says huge shout out to Zoo for introducing me to whiskey and carrying my dumb ass till the bitter end.
Speaker 2:Not introducing me to whiskey. 44-year-old DJ techno player, this is the first time you've ever gotten drunk.
Speaker 1:I love him. He says let me quit smoking, do some fucking personal resetting here at home, find my spirit animal, work on some new music and come back better. Yes, I want to hear some new music and come back better.
Speaker 2:Yes, I want to hear this new music too. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I love him. He also said he was coming down with a little bug. He's like I might have a little bug. Yeah, it's just a hangover.
Speaker 2:It's called being hung the fuck over.
Speaker 3:It's the Irish flu, bro.
Speaker 2:You're going to have this bug for a little while, wow.
Speaker 1:He is really. He's like I'm going to quit the cigarette starting today. I haven't made a solid effort to quit in years. I've always wanted to, but, my God, breaking a nicotine addiction is up there for me because I've always found it as a wonderful stress pacifier. But, yeah, I think it's time.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I love it. So he's quitting smoking cigs he's, so he's being so human about it.
Speaker 1:I do love that he's quitting the thing that didn't make him fall off stage At all. Yeah, no totally.
Speaker 2:He was like I know what you're all thinking, guys. I had too many cigarettes and even though you didn't see me have one, I think it's a pretty large concern that we all have to focus. Don't look at me falling again.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:We're concerned about my smoking.
Speaker 1:He's like thank you for introducing me to whiskey. Never met her before a day in my life. I never realized she was that nice. Oh, good for him. Old thomas joel zimmerman, the coolest canadian dj around jt. Well, speaking of cool, we've got ourselves butt of the week oh my god, on a tuesday on a tuesday and butt of the week this week is prison marriage, specifically prison marriage Nice.
Speaker 2:Specifically prison marriage.
Speaker 1:Tiger King Joe Exotic. He has gotten married behind bars to an inmate doing time for immigration crimes. What so? That's like the most innocent thing you can go to jail for it is it's just existing. Yeah, what are you in here for Believing in the American dream? Thinking I could come to this country and make it, pull myself up by my moot straps and have a family Freedom, freedom.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no. Enjoy this four by five.
Speaker 1:He is married now to a 33-year-old man. Joe always gets him young.
Speaker 3:So it's same-sex prison. Marriage is the butt of the week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because what there's not, they don't. Yeah, it's always going to be same-sex.
Speaker 3:I guess. So I'm talking about two prisoners getting married in prison.
Speaker 2:No, I think that's adorable. Yeah, it's wonderful, so cute.
Speaker 1:It's more marriage than marriage. I don't know why, because you're like really together.
Speaker 2:You cannot leave each other at all. Yeah, you can't do the thing where you're like well, we're going to have boys night. You're in boys night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what if you? Oh, do you want different cells or do you want the same cell? Because that would be stressful.
Speaker 2:Yeah you want separate cells. Very, very stressful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the incarcerated zookeeper has met Jorge Flores Maldonado. He took his last name.
Speaker 2:Of course he did.
Speaker 1:Jorge took his last name, and they were together in tuxedos and they wore plain white hats and white boutonnieres to match. According to Joseph, he says I have never been more proud of someone.
Speaker 2:And look at the picture of them. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:He is such a sugar AI flowers. It's adorable, oh my God.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't know, this poor man Matching white hats?
Speaker 3:What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:This is a get, tiger King's a get. Tiger King is a get, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's two of the most innocent crimes that you could commit to be sentenced to hard time. This guy, again, again, is just like I didn't fill out the paperwork, all right.
Speaker 2:And then you know, Tiger King is like you, have one too many tigers in your backyard.
Speaker 1:Right, oh, I threatened to kill this big fucking chick that I hate, but not even really I was just like God.
Speaker 2:I wish he was dead. And then one dude was like I'll kill her for you.
Speaker 1:And all of a sudden you're in a conspiracy to murder. Exactly so he says. Meet my husband, jorge flores maldonado. Maldonado's new husband is currently serving time again because of immigration issues. Uh, exotic posted back in october that he was engaged. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:So it's been going on for a while.
Speaker 1:He's there, in love it started in 2024 and it's finalized in 2025. It's insane.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just the kid. Just, I would say. The kid seems like he has the whole world in front of him, but how much time does he have? I don't know.
Speaker 3:He's got a whole Joe behind him.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what he's got.
Speaker 1:So right now they say that Joe says he's working on getting Marquez asylum or we'll be leaving America when we both get out.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, lord knows, you need asylum too, buddy.
Speaker 1:Yes. In response, one social media wished him good luck. Maldonado said he has no problem going to Mexico with his new husband, if released. So that would be nice. You go to prison, come out with a husband, you end up in Mexico and you just live your life the way you want to live it.
Speaker 2:That is so wild. It's just a love story.
Speaker 1:It really is a love story. So congratulations to Tiger King, joe Exotic and. Jorge, I hope you guys have a wonderful, wonderful life together. Yes, and just you know, ciao, maybe ciao together, yeah.
Speaker 3:We'll be talking to him in the next month or two, oh we're going to chat with him again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're chatting with him again. We should just chat with him anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we're going to catch up with him on death and entertainment.
Speaker 1:And we definitely have to know.
Speaker 2:Well, we have to catch up with him on love and entertainment. That's right. I agree with that. I agree with that?
Speaker 1:Yep, I agree with that. Good call, jerry. I do want to know if they sell together. Sell what Sell Like see Like sell Sell ramen packets for drugs.
Speaker 2:Are they allowed to be like husbands, like oh well, now that they're husband and husband, you say obviously they have to move into the same cell.
Speaker 1:Well, just that's God's law.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I did watch an episode of Lock Up Indiana, which, holy hell, I don't know. What's going on in Indiana. A lot of people in there for meth, sounds dark and a guy finally got to be with his bunkmate that he wanted. It was a transgender gal, I suppose, and they were just having sex all day.
Speaker 2:Wow, they loved it. That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then the guy was also like in here she's a woman On the streets. I like women, but then you know it's all confusing, it's prison.
Speaker 2:You know, if only prisoners were a little more used to saying it's all just a spectrum man, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if they've gotten that in their liberal arts classes that they're forced to take All right. Well, speaking of prisoners, scott Peterson, did he kill Lacey and the baby? Yes, well, you guys agree with the comment section on TMZ agrees with you guys, because he did. But the Innocence Project says he didn't.
Speaker 3:The LA Innocence Project.
Speaker 1:The Los Angeles Innocence Project.
Speaker 3:Okay, why does that change anything? That's double A ball.
Speaker 1:No, it's not the Los Angeles Innocence Project. That's creme of the creme, it's not the Madison Wisconsin Innocence Project.
Speaker 2:No, you never fucked that guy up. Don't you think that would be more innocent than the Los Angeles Innocence Project?
Speaker 1:Los Angeles. All they do is deal with criminals.
Speaker 2:All they're here to do is, yeah, to deal with the Instagram-influencing criminals.
Speaker 1:According to the Los Angeles Innocence Project, they say they have new evidence that will exonerate Scott Peterson, the person that both of you guys are deeming a murderer.
Speaker 2:A 1.5 murderer? Yeah, exactly because she was pregnant. It's despicable, I think, damn, you really think he did not?
Speaker 1:I have no idea. All I know is the LA Innocence Project filed a petition Friday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they said we're going to come out. They're always exaggerating that, though they never actually have this incredible piece of exonerating evidence.
Speaker 1:They do. No, they don't. Well, you're not letting me speak it.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what it is. Yes, okay, yeah, I'm speaking it, so say it.
Speaker 1:There was a burglary the day before at the neighbor's house. There was a busted up van outside of their home. In that van was a mattress covered in blood. They never tested that blood and they never even brought that to the jury.
Speaker 2:Why would they never test that blood?
Speaker 1:Because they're all dumb and they saw Scott Peterson banging this other broad and they're like that guy is definitely fucking guilty because he's banging this blonde chick who was, like you know, a california one in arizona 11. And then, although chicks in arizona are beautiful, so maybe flip it, but yeah, they never cared because they thought it was scott peterson from the get. Yeah, so, according to multiple reports, scott's uh wife, lacey peterson she was again. She was eight months pregnant. She disappeared the eve of 2002. You feel old, yet yeah.
Speaker 1:Holy shit, yes, this baby could fucking drink if it was alive, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right, this baby would be an adult, oh my.
Speaker 1:God. Anyway, she was found in the San Francisco Bay months later, and then he became the prime suspect when it was revealed that he had an affair with a massage therapist, which, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Of course you have a.
Speaker 2:That's what a massage therapist is for.
Speaker 1:I don't know about love, I don't know about marriage, but I would say, if one of your significant others is constantly going to a massage therapist, they're getting jerked or beamed, they're getting flicked one way or another. Yeah, so cops arrested Scottott in april of 2003, ultimately found guilty, but again, the new evidence was never brought to light. Lady, now they do, okay. So there is this, all the circumstantial evidence.
Speaker 1:They call it uh-huh where it's like, yeah, it was his old swimming hole, yeah, and you know, maybe fishing he was fishing she was found in the water.
Speaker 3:She was, uh, anchored down with concrete. They found the concrete dust all over his boat. He said he just happened to be making an anchor for his boat with said concrete the day that she was killed, so he's fucked yeah but then they're like hey, bloody mattress Over there.
Speaker 1:There's a bloody mattress over there. Look. The Innocence Project says Okay, okay, okay. The Innocence Project says police ignored a burglary at the neighbor's house and burned out van, again with blood-stained mattresses inside, which they do claim could be related to Lacey's death.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, so we'll see what happens. It could be he could have put her in that mattress.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know what Peterson says, what it's important to me that whoever killed my wife and son be found and held accountable.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, we did. I can't believe he's still saying that shit.
Speaker 1:Is that something a murderer would say?
Speaker 3:Yes, oj Simpson said it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He said I will not rest.
Speaker 1:In the eyes of the American legal system, he rested very well. Yeah, yeah, he did. He's a thief, not a murderer.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:If whoever committed. And then he says if whoever committed such violence against Lacey and Connor is still at large, they are a danger to public safety. Because he cares about public safety, good thing. And then he says it is also important to me that I clear my name and my family's name because I did not and could never harm or kill my family.
Speaker 2:Okay, sure, so he is um in prison right now, right, oh, yeah, yeah, well, that's good yeah, he's the one that getting. He's getting into fights playing pickleball yeah, that's so true he's getting into pickleball fights.
Speaker 1:I just think, isn't he just like us yeah just like us.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'll get into a fight playing pickleball I've never, I've never made anything out of concrete, let alone a fucking anchor yeah, I don't what do you mean?
Speaker 2:I was just all. I have all this random cement just so that I can make an anchor for my boat, and, whoops, a lot of it is attached to my dead wife. Never had had a wife, which is a problem I got to look inward for. But that's you know. There's a lot of situations that I'm not. And another thing these fucking cops just do your job the right way, so that way they don't get off on technicalities being like oh well, I guess we forgot to check the mattress, so all of this is null and void, even though the fucking the dead wife or the dead baby are not null and voiding themselves.
Speaker 1:Check the mattress in the fucking busted up van that probably had a home invader driving it. Yeah, so that's Mark Garagos. Yeah, he's Scott's lawyer, who I think was also OJ's lawyer. Yeah, anyway, he says the case against Peterson is an abomination.
Speaker 3:An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 2:An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, basically, yeah, basically, that's exactly what that sounds like.
Speaker 2:He's doing his job.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope you guys are happy because everyone in the comments section of this TMZ article agrees with you. So what good company you guys keep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they caught him with like $15,000 cash and IDs and a passport to go leave for Mexico.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Ben yeah.
Speaker 3:So he could take his very innocent ass somewhere else.
Speaker 1:What am I guilty of? Eating a succulent Chinese meal? Get your hands off my penis, Cantaman vacation. Also, are you guys not the two that want to suck the D's of the Menendez brothers, who did worse than that after they butchered their two parents? Yes, granted, they were probably pedophiles.
Speaker 3:Yes, okay, yeah, I'm all for killing pedophiles. Call me old-fashioned, old-fashioned.
Speaker 2:Old-fashioned Jinx Nice.
Speaker 1:According to a comment and I rarely care about these comments, but this might be interesting he says I lived where the remains washed up. We all knew we're sailors, so that means they're gay. They say the dude did not check the tides. He would have gotten away with it if his newly acquired boat with his homemade weights that had her hair on them was out at the right time. But it was not, so anyway, Anyway.
Speaker 1:We'll keep you updated on what happens with all that. We'll see. It doesn't seem as if he has the same public support as the formerly mentioned Menendez brothers.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, no, why would he?
Speaker 1:Also remember that guy who did the UnitedHealthcare shooting. The hot guy, yeah. Remember the ugly guy, yeah.
Speaker 3:No ugly guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no one talks about him. Not at all. Isn't that funny? I didn't care less.
Speaker 1:They're all going to treat me like.
Speaker 2:Luigi Mangio. How is he? How is he? How's my boy?
Speaker 3:He just made fruitless demands outside and then got arrested.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for real, it's just the weakest shit ever.
Speaker 1:All right, well, let's get to death news A paranormal investigator known as the real life Scully. No, not from Monsters Inc. Wow, From X-Files.
Speaker 3:That's Sully.
Speaker 2:What? Oh, that's Sully.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like what Not to be confused with Sullenberger yeah well, okay. Who flew the plane into the Hudson?
Speaker 2:Scully Sully. That's who I was thinking about.
Speaker 1:Scully Sully, I can't see the difference. Hey, anyway, he died last month. Oh no, yes, he's remembered as an icon and a hero within the skeptical community. The man's name was Joe Nickel. He called himself the world's only full-time professional paranormal investigator, and I believe that Because there is very little money in finding ghosts, where is his?
Speaker 2:1099? I want to see the paperwork that clears him from being a full-time paranormal investigator.
Speaker 1:There's no paperwork in Ghost Hunting. It's all in business. Never leave a paper trail. He was known for digging into some of the world's biggest myths. He was a skeptical inquirer. Nicol had worked as a columnist for decades. He wrote articles about enigmas, including historical, forensic and paranormal stories. Yes, this is according to Barry Carr, the executive director of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, which that man spells, there is a committee. Yeah, he's dusty.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's very dusty.
Speaker 2:Committee for. So he has to stand before a panel of people that they can accept. They're like, all right, we see that you wrote this article on what you think might be out there.
Speaker 1:I'm seeing a lot of tan and taupe. Oh for sure, and they called glasses spectacles. Yes, and maybe there's a monocle involved.
Speaker 2:There could be a monocle. Someone's got a cane.
Speaker 1:Oh, someone has a cane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, but not ironically.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:They need it.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're all feeble.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at least three of them have some kind of fibromyalgia, I mean and isn't that the biggest mystery of all? Yes.
Speaker 1:So Barry Carr says Joe was a hands-on investigator who could be found aboard the Queen Mary looking for alleged ghosts.
Speaker 2:How do you make money being a ghost hunter?
Speaker 1:It's really hard. You've got to write stuff and then you've got to go to the conventions and then you've got to sign papers or autographs. It just sucks. Oh, then meet and greets, meet and greets, and then people will be like I don't know if you're really right about the ghost of the anal, whatever. And then you have to be like, well, no, I queefed it out myself, I'm pretty right, yeah and it's all real stupid and people are smelly I see, yeah, oh, they are, which I don't like it.
Speaker 1:The ghost community yeah, which is why I powder, I powder. Also, I powder all over my house, so if there is a ghost In my house, I'll be able to see Its footprints.
Speaker 2:Why would? But if it's a ghost, don't they like Not have feet? Don't they like Fully dissolve From, like the knees down, and they just float around?
Speaker 1:Did you watch Paranormal? Paranormal what was the name?
Speaker 2:of the.
Speaker 1:Pertinomal activity.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they have feet. They have little feet.
Speaker 2:They have little feet yeah they wear little ghost shoes. As soon as you die, you have to go to the ghost shoe store and they're like, well, Fucking sucks. First things first.
Speaker 1:If you're going to haunt a house.
Speaker 2:You want the right shoes.
Speaker 1:I'm still a size 14, huh. Yeah, I guess I got a big old ghost bag, so he was looking for ghosts at the Queen Mary. He would also go to a farmer's field and investigate crop circles. He was also seen roaming the shores of the Loch Ness for Nessie Seen. He was seen. He was seen roaming the shores of Loch Ness looking for Nessie the big old thing.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, yeah, who isn't a ghost? But?
Speaker 1:that's not a ghost. No, he does everything you have to.
Speaker 3:It's different income streams. You got the cryptid groups. You got the ghost groups.
Speaker 1:They all live under the same tent. Yeah, come on now, literally in the woods. He also toured China, studying traditional Chinese medicine and examining the claims of the Qui-Gon masters.
Speaker 2:Like Qui-Gon Jinn.
Speaker 1:Yes, so he is getting laid all the time? Oh, definitely, obviously. And Barry says that barely even scratches the surface of what this guy has done. Joe was a true polymath, who often left you in awe of his depth of knowledge in what seemed to be a limitless number of subjects. Because you make it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, honestly In awe. Yeah, I would leave in awe. I'd be like man. This guy did not shut up about that random fucking shelf that he thought was a ghost for like 25 minutes. I am in utter awe and shock that he had so much to keep trying to filter into my brain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the obituary that everybody wants.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They say he was a walking and talking encyclopedia with never-ending curiosity.
Speaker 3:Aw.
Speaker 1:To know even more and bring on the next mystery. So he is dead. What a tremendous loss. They say he can never be replaced.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So, thank you for what you did the skeptical inquirer, mr Nickel.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. Us skeptics need people like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he did get into an argument with a lot of people. He says I'm tired of these debunkers coming to my office, so people were kind of razzing him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, obviously yeah, it's not real. For the last time I saw it.
Speaker 1:And you know what the debunkers would yell at him. Hey Nickel, seen any ghosts lately? Har, har, har.
Speaker 3:Nerd Give him a wedgie.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Imagine dealing with dumb shit like that until you're very old age. He's very old, you're like how the fuck am I still going through this?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like shut up up ghost dork.
Speaker 3:Right, he's like I'm 80 can I have
Speaker 1:some respect around here. Yeah, yeah, he also listed more than a thousand personas that helped him with his job oh lord. Do you know what those personas?
Speaker 2:are. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:so he was. He was a private investigator, a federal fugitive, a food server, a magician.
Speaker 2:Federal fugitive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2:I just want the government to just intersect right now and just be like he was never wanted by the FBI for any federal reason whatsoever.
Speaker 3:Tommy Lee Jones chased him off a waterfall.
Speaker 1:Nobody ever wanted him. It was a one-armed man.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The ghost arm. He was also a magician, he was a beer master and, most importantly to me, a Bigfoot hunter.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, my God.
Speaker 1:According to Kenny Biddle.
Speaker 2:I never caught you.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. According to Kenny Biddle, he said he didn't treat a ghost story as a ghost story or a UFO story as a UFO story, which I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2:But he didn't. They weren't stories to him, man, they were real life.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there you go.
Speaker 2:Rest in peace.
Speaker 1:Rest in peace, real life. Scully Alright.
Speaker 2:He should be like here, haunting everyone. That was like debunking him. He should spend his entire life just haunting all those motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:He knows now, doesn't he? He knows the truth.
Speaker 2:Now he knows, now he's like, wow, I was so wrong about all of this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they educate him on his ghost stereotypes. Right, he's going to open. You know he's going to start learning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, we don't talk to Mr Cortez over there. He fought for the Confederacy. It's all like political and shit, all right. Well, speaking of concrete, this story is just really, really shitty. And it's another example. I am all for rehabilitation, all for hey, you did your time, come on out Work at the Waffle House. Except for one group of people, and that is child sex offenders. It's just very difficult to overlook that A grandmother took a risk by hiring somebody to help her take care of her home. That was a child sex offender.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's very sad she was 82 years old. I say was because she is dead. She was found buried under a shed in concrete. More developments have come out, oh my God. They say that she was found bound with Velcro straps and beaten. She wasn't just beaten, she was tortured with a nail gun.
Speaker 2:Good God. Okay, that's horrible, Right. And also what an insult to be bound by Velcro.
Speaker 1:She's ew, that sucks. Yeah, you're 82.
Speaker 2:It fucking sucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You could technically come out of this.
Speaker 1:Right. Just put a rubber band around her arm. She's like I can't stretch these.
Speaker 3:Like a lobster claws.
Speaker 1:I mean it makes sense that a disgusting child predator would go after an 82-year-old as well, because they're looking for people who are weak.
Speaker 2:Who are real. That's probably something.
Speaker 1:Young or old. There's a Venn diagram of victimhood for these pieces of trash, according to the Thurston County coroner, gary Warnock. He said it was the worst case he's ever witnessed. He says her onset from injury to death was not instant. It took hours. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:She held on for a long time.
Speaker 1:She did. You make it 82 years and you get fucking tortured by this douche bag. Yep, they say, we see and witness things, and this investigation is one you cannot unsee.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. It sounds brutal.
Speaker 1:The name of the killer is her former handyman and his name is Fun. That's not his name, but his name is Jeffrey Ziz, ah, ziz, z-i-z-z, ziz, ziz. That guy, remember Dr Zizmore. No, a little bit the ads in New York City for the guy that would get rid of all your pimples.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did do that.
Speaker 1:Jeffrey Ziz. He's 47. He appeared in court. He was arrested on suspicion of murder, kidnapping, and then they always say you didn't dispose of the body right, which is the least worst of all the stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like you made a body. You made a person a body.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is a child molesting veteran. Do you thank him for your service? Do you thank him for the service Do?
Speaker 2:you thank him for the service and when you say child molesting.
Speaker 3:Was he a veteran of child molesting?
Speaker 1:That's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't think you get a badge for that. You don't get a badge, I think, when you're oh man, you know I'm a veteran.
Speaker 1:There's not like a PFW, like a Pedophiles of Foreign Wars. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:Purple colon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just go down to the PFW, you know, bowl a little bit With the guys. You know, yeah, the guys. He is a father of five. He's being held without bail. This woman, she was reported missing April 4th of this year and, yeah, they've built the case around Ziz.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can imagine his five kids don't want much to do with him.
Speaker 1:Probably not. Yeah, probably not. I mean, also, they have to live with the last name Ziz. That's terrible. I mean it's cool. If you're cool, I'm going to ziz.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But if you're not cool, then you're just like they're like hey ziz, how's your fucking pants? On your ankles.
Speaker 1:If you have bad acne, you're zitty ziz. Yeah you know. But if you're cool like, if you're like a middle linebacker and you're like Frankie ziz, that's cool, I, that's cool I guess, so it would be cool.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're kind of like a hate rapist.
Speaker 3:It's the Ziz Master that's it's not like the Ziz, it's the Ziz Meister, ziz, meister man.
Speaker 2:Ziz bro, ziz Zizki. I like Ziz.
Speaker 1:Meister you don't like. Ziz Meister. No, I mean, he's one of the friends that, like you, can't bring. Yeah, the handyman was the last person to see her alive after she invited him over for dinner. Oh, what a piece of garbage. A search of Ziz's home uncovered a five-page letter which meticulously planned out a burglary and sexual assault of a woman who was referred to as his customer. So he also made a five-page letter talking about it.
Speaker 3:He likes them very young and very old.
Speaker 2:He doesn't like anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, yeah.
Speaker 2:He doesn't like anybody, but he does like to write apparently he wrote five pages, what?
Speaker 1:a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2:Five pages.
Speaker 1:What a dickhead.
Speaker 2:Did he like indent each paragraph?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Why would you? This reminds me of a little poem that I thought of Right.
Speaker 1:What? Yeah, he was arrested. Ziz was arrested in Missoula, montana. He was initially interviewed but became the suspect after he falsely claimed he was home the night. She disappeared, but of course he was not. So anyway, that's RIP. Just be careful who you hire. But you never know, because you want to trust people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't want to be like. This is a good thing that I'm doing. I don't want to. You know they've rehabilitated. They need a chance.
Speaker 1:And it's always such a shock when the person that you trusted turns out to be a monster Like I've had this experience in my real life where I trusted somebody and then I find out they want to kill my dogs and shit. I'm like what the fuck is wrong with these psychos.
Speaker 2:Why would they want to kill your dog?
Speaker 1:Buddy, I don't know. I haven't lost all faith in humanity Because I keep it, but I have to actively work at it. I know I totally get people who are just like God, I'm not really with folk, I'm not really feeling people right now. I'm like I understand that sucks.
Speaker 2:It's so frustrating.
Speaker 1:But I love it Actively trying to make people happy.
Speaker 2:I love people, I hate people. I love gatherings.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, you know Well, speaking of people and, I guess, sexual abuse, this is a toss-up story, so I want to talk about this. On last episode, we discussed how some pedophiles are using AI child porn. Absolutely disgusting, right. But now teenagers are using AI to create fake nudes of their classmates.
Speaker 2:That's still child porn. That's bullying too Harshly cyberbullying.
Speaker 3:Unless like, look fucking amazing in it. You're like, oh, that's me putting saggy tits.
Speaker 2:You know they're putting saggy long nipples on all of you right, that's true, and this is.
Speaker 1:You know, this is what happens. These are teenagers doing teenager stuff. Yeah, so I don't like, because there's some people in prison for, like, sexting when they were both 15. I don't know, that's like a weird yeah.
Speaker 2:To arrest like a 16-year-old on child pornography charges and it's like come on, dude, it's just weird yeah. It was like a 7th grader sending text to an 8th grader.
Speaker 1:But this is a case that is now new territory. So teens are using AI and then they're creating very realistic images naked images of their classmates. It was on an app called Nudify Nudify.
Speaker 2:Nudify.
Speaker 1:These are Nudify apps.
Speaker 2:That's a very specific app that was made for this.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who did this? Who started this app?
Speaker 1:That's a good question.
Speaker 2:That's the problem, right there.
Speaker 1:That is a very good question, and you wonder if the person who made this is like uh-oh.
Speaker 3:Some guy that was sick of paying for OnlyFans. I think, Dude, he's like. I'll take a picture of my neighbor and see her naked.
Speaker 1:Is that real now that guys are doing OnlyFans but covered up with AI to make them look like women?
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, that probably is a. Thing. Oh yeah, that is a thing. That is a thing, I guess you don't know what's the difference.
Speaker 1:And men, we should make money too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The men wealth gap on OnlyFans is real yeah.
Speaker 2:Men should go into female-dominated fields that are trying to Take up space.
Speaker 3:Yes, fields that are trying to.
Speaker 1:Take up space.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, and male-dominated fields.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 2:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:So it is a nudify app. That's what they're being dubbed. All you have to do is take a picture, a headshot, put it into the app and then the app is like this is what that dude looks naked, looks like naked big old balls and shit, but to your point, they are probably making them look worse than they do or whatever. I mean everyone. I don't know, I don't want to whatever. According to Don Austin, superintendent of the Palo Alto Unified School District. He says we're at a place now where you can be doing nothing and stories and pictures about you are posted online. They're fabricated, they're completely made up through ai and it can have your voice, your face. It's a whole nother world.
Speaker 2:I hate that it's.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. I hate that so much, but if it's not really you, so I guess it's. The question is if it's not really you right, and you know it's not really you, but everyone thinks it's you perception is reality, I suppose. So it might as well be you, yeah, and it's not really you right, and you know it's not really you, but everyone thinks it's you.
Speaker 2:Perception is reality, I suppose so it might as well be you, yeah, and it's not even. I feel like even with teenagers it doesn't even have to be that black and white where it immediately has to automatically look like them. It could just be funny to be like I put Tanya's face on this random body and they're like oh, that's stupid. You put a different skin-colored body on her head because she's stupid, right, and then it's all fake, but everyone's laughing anyway. And you're like oh, shut up guys, we all know that's not my body.
Speaker 1:And they're like yeah, Then you've got to show us. Then you've got to show us your body. Make sure your clit doesn't look like that, because you're stupid yeah so to your point, kyle.
Speaker 1:last summer, a San Francisco city's attorney's office they sued 16 so-called nudify websites for allegedly violating laws around child exploitation those sites. In the first half of 2023, guess how many visits those sites got? Oh boy, I don't even want to know. Oh, a million, 200 million. Jesus Christ, there's only like 300 million people in this country. What the fuck. So like? I guess it's international, but that's a lot right, that's a lot.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, it sucks, because it's like maybe they had good intentions with this app, maybe they were like yeah, what, what, what. I want to have a crush on someone and have some private time in my fantasies about things without actually going to that person, stalking them, taking photos, and I'm just going to keep this little situation in my brain me myself and the tissue box.
Speaker 3:No, or they're doing it for themselves. If you're trying to court someone, you're like oh, this is what I look like, naked.
Speaker 2:That could also be. Oh well, that's bad, because then that's catfishing now.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, absolutely, but people do it all the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's a catfishing act, and of course you catch a catfish by putting your hand right in the water and the catfish bites you.
Speaker 3:My guess is that it's a weaponized catfish situation here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's probably right about that.
Speaker 1:Minnesota is the first state to try to pass legislation to hold these companies accountable. However, it's extremely difficult because, again, these companies move very fast. They say this causes extreme harm. They say kids these days will upload maybe a headshot of another kid at school and the app will recreate the body of that person as if they are nude. This causes extreme harm to that kid that might be in the photo, and especially their friends, as well as the whole family, which I mean. That would be awkward.
Speaker 2:Yep, pretty messed up to have to stand there and explain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so be careful Before you give your kids a phone, make sure you have this discussion. You want to have a discussion with them.
Speaker 2:You want to have a discussion about, like what apps? Yeah, what apps? I mean, there's so much you have to talk about with kids these days. When it comes to these phones, they all just have not only better access but a better understanding because they grew up with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all smart. They're so much smarter than us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they know how to do this with one hand while they're not paying attention in class.
Speaker 1:I know. Then you take a picture of the teacher. Ooh, we had a teacher, Mrs Harrison. She went to go be a model in Chicago. What Wish I had that AI app.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, that would have been awesome.
Speaker 1:My friend Matt. Accidentally he was going to swing his arm around, probably trying to hit me or something, but he accidentally touched her vagina, oh, wow. Oh, my God yeah we talked about it at recess about it at recess.
Speaker 2:I hate that so much. We were in sixth grade Fucking weirdo, never washing this hand again.
Speaker 1:We were in sixth grade, mrs Harrison. She was a banger, she was super hot, super cute.
Speaker 2:She sounds great. She sounds like she was a little bit assaulted by some fucking.
Speaker 1:No, it was an accident.
Speaker 2:Fucking A.
Speaker 1:It was an accident Alright. Well, just lastly, you know that story about Madeline McCann. Yeah, this is a baby. She went missing a couple of years ago. Yeah, it's British. So the McCanns, this story was everywhere right, and everyone's like you killed your baby parents. And the parents are like we didn't kill our baby, we loved our baby. Yada, yada, yada. I think they ended up. They were never charged with anything and someone did steal the baby with anything. And someone did steal the baby. I don't think they've ever found out who did it, but making their lives even worse. There is a woman who is claiming to be Madeline McCann and now she has pleaded not guilty to stalking the missing toddler's parents and their siblings by turning up at their home. Oh my God, doesn't that suck. So she's like I'm your dead daughter and they're like no, oh my God.
Speaker 1:Our daughter is definitely dead and you are like, really ugly, she's not like as cute as madeline mccann, so they're you know, I think they're also like, like, even if it really was their daughter, they'd be like you know what our? Daughter's dead. Get out of here it would totally suck if that was actually her right and she'd be like why don't you love me like you're not our?
Speaker 3:daughter, you're an imposter because we know we killed her Right.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, that'd be a what if we didn't actually bury the body? Oh shit.
Speaker 2:I told you to make sure the pulse was fucking not there anymore. She's back.
Speaker 1:She wants revenge. Oh god, and apparently she's from Poland. She's.
Speaker 2:Polish.
Speaker 1:She's 23. She appeared in the courts of Leicester Crown Court and she was like I am not guilty, but she allegedly had unwanted contact with the McCanns, turning up with their addresses, and then she sent them letters and WhatsApp messages and so she really got obsessed and so she's being charged with stalking. And then she's also stalking Madeline's brother, sean, who was just like, can I just not do this? All the time, damn. And she denied causing serious harm or distress from May 3, 2024 and February 21 of this year.
Speaker 1:So she's been on it for a while.
Speaker 2:Oh, yep, so now she's in custody. She must really think she is who she says she is.
Speaker 3:She's in custody, so now she's happy custody. She must really think she is who she says she is.
Speaker 1:She's in custody. So now she's happy that someone has custody of her because she's been looking for it Isn't that nice, it's heartwarming really. Yep. She also has an Instagram handle at. I am Madeline McCann.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 1:God. That's crazy so you want to give her a follow?
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, there's something about this that's not sitting right with me. This could really be her.
Speaker 1:She had previously shared a DNA test which shows she's 100% Polish.
Speaker 2:Oh, you never want to be 100% Polish. What does that have to do with anything? It's stupid.
Speaker 1:She can't be Madeleine McCann, yeah.
Speaker 2:Her parents aren't Polish.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah, oh there you go Between the Russians and the Polish. You don't want to adopt from either country.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you really don't. Lots of duds.
Speaker 1:They don't know.
Speaker 2:They just don't know that they're Just like a big brute fucking bear.
Speaker 1:I mean, man, I guess it depends what you're trying to get. I mean, it's weird when you call it casting, not adopting. Yeah, so she posted her DNA results and then everyone's like, yeah, you're not our daughter, so now she's going to kind of go to jail. And I don't know, if I was her parents I'd be like, well, I guess we did a horrible job because she wants to be this dead girl now. Well, that's that update, all right any comments Okay.
Speaker 3:Vanessa said there was an SVU episode like that A girl pretended to be this couple's missing child. Turns out the sister actually killed her and the mother covered it up, so they knew that she was not the daughter they couldn't say how much they knew she wasn't it.
Speaker 1:No, there's no way I killed that. Oh wait, no, no, no, you're it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I've been looking for her everywhere.
Speaker 3:Lori's saying all they need is the DNA to figure that one out. I mean, that's pretty point blank, it's true?
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, that's what they did and she's Polish, which you don't need to do DNA testing to figure if someone's Polish, you just see. Oh yeah, but a screen door and a submarine. There's a lot of Polish-like jokes because they're all dumb. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:Vanessa's saying kids are assholes. They're going to use that to bully the shit out of some poor kid who's already going through it, which that's what happens.
Speaker 1:Kids pile on, but you know what I would do, though, if I was that kid I'd AI myself, make myself look fucking shredded.
Speaker 3:Greek God Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yep. I'd be like Joe's on you, because that is my body. That's what I look like under this shirt.
Speaker 3:And everybody is saying OJ Simpson and Scott Peterson are guilty Ben.
Speaker 1:Everybody. Well, you better agree with the crowd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you better Just ask.
Speaker 1:Jesus of Nazareth, I'm crying.
Speaker 2:Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Jesus was killed for sticking up for OJ Simpson.
Speaker 1:Did the glove fit on Jesus' hand, then you gotta acquit him.
Speaker 2:It was nailed to a cross, the cross fit though.
Speaker 3:Oh nice, yeah, cross fit, all right, everyone. Well, thank you, I got to go exercise and do some cross fit.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Thank you all so much for listening. We'll be back on Thursday. Also, again, check out the OK Bud YouTube, because I think we're going to. Let's keep.