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Episode 55: Death in New England: Serial Killer Fears Rise
The specter of a serial killer looms over New England as eight bodies have been discovered across Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island in just two months. Despite police departments denying any connection between these cases, concerned citizens have formed online groups to track these disturbing patterns themselves. Ben, Jerry, and Kyle examine why authorities might downplay these connections and what evidence suggests something more sinister could be happening across the region.
Death touches this episode in multiple ways, from the update on two children tragically poisoned by Easter chocolates in Brazil to Pope Francis's funeral arrangements, which sparked controversy when Cardinal Roger Mahoney was selected to seal the Pope's casket. The Cardinal's history of covering up clerical child abuse raises serious questions about accountability within the Catholic Church, even in death.
The hosts also deliver a critical update in the Karen Reid murder case, where a key witness has now recanted testimony that was central to the prosecution's argument. This shocking development could potentially exonerate Reid, who has maintained her innocence in the death of her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe.
From Billy McFarland selling the Fyre Festival brand after announcing his departure from the venture, to an Australian woman's viral experience with being charged extra for a Brazilian wax due to her "size," the episode weaves through serious crime updates and oddball social media controversies with the show's signature blend of insight and humor.
Whether you're fascinated by true crime, religious hypocrisy, or the strange corners of personal services pricing, this episode delivers thought-provoking content that will leave you questioning official narratives and eagerly awaiting the next update on these developing stories. Subscribe for more unfiltered commentary on the stories that matter—even when mainstream outlets aren't giving them the attention they deserve.
Kyle, where is the button?
Speaker 2:Now you're making me nervous when you think it is, but higher up.
Speaker 1:We've done 55 episodes. There we go, alright, alright, now we got it. Where's the button Lebowski?
Speaker 3:Put my head back in. I can find it.
Speaker 1:Oh, yuck. Hey, what's up everyone, how you doing? Welcome to OK Bud, the podcast where everything's going to be OK Bud. I am Ben Kissel at Ben Kissel One, joined by Jerry Akito at Miss Underscore. Jerry and Kyle Plouffe Hello At Kyle Plouffe. Thanks for all the kind comments, specifically about my wonderful co-hosts, jerry and Kyle. Kyle, they say we're learning to tolerate you oh, very good. And Jerry, they say they love you and you are their favorite person oh, snap.
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Speaker 2:We got some dog pics.
Speaker 1:We always get our dog pics. They're so nice, I love it. And that, of course, is okbudpod at gmailcom. Okay, we have so many updates today. No update. Six Updates it is. And speaking of dates, this poor fella dated the wrong gal and she ended up killing two of his now girlfriend's children. Oh boy.
Speaker 2:He covered the story of a Brazilian evil human.
Speaker 1:Easter. Yes, she spiked two Easter chocolates, sent it to the current girlfriend of her ex-boyfriend and, of course, the children ate it. The seven-year-old boy died basically immediately, and now, sadly, the 13-year-old girl has also died just days after eating the chocolate-covered Easter eggs that were poisoned.
Speaker 2:That's so crazy. So she was. I remember she was in critical condition for a couple of days.
Speaker 1:Critical. And that's where they go up to her and be like you're too large, it's critical, critical mass. Kind of funny. It's a Thursday, everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Very exciting.
Speaker 2:So Thursday.
Speaker 1:A swing and a miss to start off Very good. Anyway, that's the update. The 13-year-old has also died, rip. Very, very sad Update on Firefest, because we have been the premier podcast when it comes to discussing Firefest 2.
Speaker 2:Obviously, we are following it. We've got our nose to the ground with this one.
Speaker 1:Jerry and I did some undercover research. Technically, we're journalists. No, we're okay, we're journalists. Yes, we spoke with somebody in Billy McFarland's camp yesterday.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:That just means he had a tent at the first Fire Festival.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh no, had a tent at the first Fyre Festival. Yes, no, it means that they share a financial advisor, which is true, oh God. And he says that Billy isn't a bad guy, he's just a moron.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's like most people.
Speaker 1:He's too stupid to be evil. Anyway, billy McFarland has officially quit Fyre Fest. He says I'm done.
Speaker 2:I don't want to do this anymore. And by this, what is it that he means? Lie constantly and Dig himself into holes that he cannot Possibly dig himself out of.
Speaker 1:Yep, he wants to go start quote a new chapter, another chapter.
Speaker 2:Another chapter.
Speaker 1:Hopefully it doesn't end with him in prison.
Speaker 2:Hopefully it's not just a festival. Yeah, just don't. Maybe nothing involving like ticket sales like this.
Speaker 1:He wants to be the festival guy. He wants to be cool, but of course when you're actually a festival person you have to be good at business and it's not very cool and it kind of sucks. The entire thing's a colossal pain in the ass. It really is.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can't, just a week before, be like we're thinking about doing some MMA stuff on the beach during the festival. That Festival that has to be planned like two years before Get the insurance for it, Like the Karate Kid Interesting On the beach training.
Speaker 1:He has said I am going to be done with Fyre Festival and now he wants to sell the brand, but I don't know what the fuck the brand is.
Speaker 2:The brand is Fyre with a Y.
Speaker 3:Do you want to pay to be homeless on the beach?
Speaker 1:That's exciting. That is kind of fire with a Y, yeah. So anyway, he's done. Did he sell the brand, Kyle?
Speaker 3:He did sell the brand.
Speaker 1:What did he sell it for?
Speaker 3:I don't know what the official tag was, but it's going to be used as a streaming platform now.
Speaker 2:Is it like a festival streaming platform Catch every festival, every EDC, every Ultra, every Coachella.
Speaker 3:Well, Coachella does it for free now.
Speaker 2:All festivals, all the time? Oh yeah, they do.
Speaker 3:I've been watching Coachella just at home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, lady Gaga's performance was nice and if you really want to make yourself feel like you're there, go to fridge, charge yourself 20 bucks for water and then finger pop yourself kind of unwillingly, just in a crowd of people. Wow, you know, have fun with it.
Speaker 2:Wow, because that's what festivals are all about expensive, expensive corn dogs yes, porta potties oh my god and then and then you gotta like walk around your house like seven times piss on the floor piss on the floor. On the floor, piss on the floor. Piss on the floor.
Speaker 1:Also check your toilets. Make sure no one's down there swimming in the Duke, because every festival you got your Dookie I'll call them Dookie Mermen and they're down there. Oh my God, it happens all the time. What?
Speaker 2:with you.
Speaker 1:People, because you're not educated on these topics.
Speaker 2:Obviously, there are people I'm not finger pop educated.
Speaker 1:There are people that put on full wetsuits and they go into the port-a-potties. They get into the main cylinder where all the waste goes, no, and they swim around like they're Michael Phelps. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3:That's why you have a wetsuit hanging up here. I don't have a wetsuit.
Speaker 1:They don't make them in my size. That is true, though it happens. They do. Yeah, yeah, it happens.
Speaker 2:They do.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then sometimes you'll take a big old dump and you'll hear good one Thank you, they do, jerry. No, you better take a flashlight Every time you go. Just another female concern.
Speaker 2:I don't go to port-a-potties in general, I can't stand them. If general, I can't stand them. If I can hold it, I'm going to hold it.
Speaker 1:You're at a festival for four days. You can't hold it.
Speaker 2:I don't like festivals. This is precisely why I don't go to festivals. Port-a-potties, how have we not figured out an indoor bathroom situation?
Speaker 1:True, true.
Speaker 2:How have we not?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know. I'm with you Well they're temporary fairgrounds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but you can pull up a trailer that can have a bathroom in it.
Speaker 3:That's called a porta potty. No, no, no the indoor trailers with the AC and everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Indoor trailers.
Speaker 1:What do you think your ticket's going to get you? No, you don't deserve to poop in private or in peace. There has to be people outside the door being like I just took too much, molly, it's liquid, you got to go. And then again the guy down there would just be like oh man, I really liked yours.
Speaker 2:He's like, let's go.
Speaker 1:Well, speaking of people doing horrible things to other people. The Pope is dead.
Speaker 2:Wait, how is that him?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you.
Speaker 2:And that's okay.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you why this thing may exist.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So the Pope is dead. This is Pope Francis.
Speaker 3:They found him in a toilet.
Speaker 1:Did they really Just like Elvis?
Speaker 3:Saying yes, sir, may I have another? Oh my God, that's how it connects.
Speaker 2:I don't believe anything you guys are saying today, pope is dead, okay, hope is dead.
Speaker 1:The Pope is dead. Hope is still alive. The Pope is dead, got it? And apparently the Pope's final words were to a nurse.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:And then he fell asleep and then died. So isn't that nice. The forever sleep, yeah, but what were the words I forget? There was something like is this gonna be.
Speaker 2:He's like that important.
Speaker 1:I feel the flames.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly. Oh, my god.
Speaker 1:Well, he was supposed to be the good pope, the poor pope, the one who cared about people suffering. The gay pope? Yeah, the gay pope. Just because he was like don't kill him. Don't kill the gays, yeah, don't kill him, don't kill the gays. But then now there's going to be a conservative pope, and it's going to be very ironic because it's going to be this black pope and he's the most conservative by far. So, gays, you're out again.
Speaker 3:We got Clarence Thomas the pope.
Speaker 2:Played by Giancarlo Esposito, yeah.
Speaker 1:The role of a lifetime A disgraced US cardinal has been. He's barred from all public ministry.
Speaker 3:You know how bad you have to mess up to get barred.
Speaker 1:From the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, seriously. They tend to really have your back through thick and thin.
Speaker 1:Why was he barred? Can you guess? Can you guess what happened in the Catholic Church, why he was barred?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was caught in an affair with an adult.
Speaker 3:No, really bad press. That is more of a reason than with all the kids.
Speaker 2:Really really bad press.
Speaker 1:He covered up clerical child sex abuse.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:See that.
Speaker 2:I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1:I know it's shocking, right? Yeah, he was chosen to help seal Pope Francis' casket and entomb his remains for all time.
Speaker 2:What do you mean, entomb?
Speaker 1:He's gonna be entombed. He's gonna be entombed. He's gonna be entombed. So the final people to be around Pope Francis is Cardinal Roger Mahoney, and he is going to close the Pope's coffin on Friday.
Speaker 3:Sounds like a grizzled detective. Yeah, it really does Entomb the Pope Mahoney.
Speaker 2:I don't do that anymore man, you know, I'm done I don't know, I'm just not going to.
Speaker 1:He can never be Pope. Pope Roger Mahoney.
Speaker 2:I'm crying.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a middle linebacker about to be drafted.
Speaker 2:At the very best, it sounds like a dean of a school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could see that it sounds like a jock. A dean Roger Mahoney, a cop Run, it's Mahoney.
Speaker 2:Run. It is my homie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just feel like Mahoney is a person. He'll beat you with the billy club and then kind of make fun of you for crying.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, anyway, he was stripped of his administrative and public duties in January 2023 because he helped cover up this massive, massive child sex ring. That's wild, yeah. According to Ann Barrett Doyle which is always interesting to me the Catholic Church has so many female Catholics, but they don't really they don't actually matter. It's interesting, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know, but anyway, she says shame on him for participating in the public right for Pope Francis and shame on the College of Cardinals for allowing him to do so.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Double shame. So he's going wherever Pope Francis goes, and one of the final people to touch his coffin is, of course, a man who did horrible, horrible things. And I actually think covering up pedophilia is worse than doing it, because if you're a pedophile, you could be like oh, I guess I'm just kind of crazy up here. I can't. But, then the person who's just like, don't worry about it, and I got you. Yeah, I got your back on this I don't want to fuck kids, but I get why you do.
Speaker 2:I like I just don't. I'm just not here to judge anyone, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's Catholic.
Speaker 2:They don't judge as long as you're not hurting anyone. Yes, he's actually. Yes.
Speaker 1:The cover-up is always worse than the crime, although in this case I think it's probably a mutual. That's a mutual.
Speaker 2:Probably. Yeah, Kind of a lateral move there.
Speaker 1:Right. So Mahoney kept now-defrost priest Michael Baker in circulation as well. So this is what happened.
Speaker 2:So Michael Baker, he molested two boys over a seven-year period, which means he probably molested, like hundreds and hundreds of boys.
Speaker 1:And then Mahoney was like hey, come to me, come to Papa Mahoney, it's going to be fine. So he sent the priest to psychological treatment and then Baker, a year later, advised him not to spend any more time with minors. So then he said don't fuck any more kids, right, right. But then Baker wasn't removed from the ministry until the year 2000, after serving in nine parishes, and then in 2007, the priest that was protected by Mahoney, the man who got to close the casket of the current pope that is now dead.
Speaker 1:He was arrested in 2007 and convicted of child molestation.
Speaker 2:That's gross, isn't?
Speaker 1:that he's the good popeation. That's gross, isn't that? He's the good Pope? Yeah, he's still surrounded, even if let's, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, is that?
Speaker 2:actually him in the casket.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a really nice casket.
Speaker 2:Why is it all like red? Why is it all like it's evil? Yeah, I know it's so weird.
Speaker 3:Oh God, I don't like that. He had a weird smile on his face too I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1:It's a conclave going on right now and I will say, if you want to see politics at their worst, speaking of Harry Potter and Snape, there are so many people in the Vatican right now, who are pulling all their political strings to be like, I think, barry should be the pope. Well, you know that Barry is a little bit of a da-da-da-da-da, and then they keep on talking about each other.
Speaker 2:I hear that Barry hooks up with adults.
Speaker 1:Oh, yuck, yuck, Ew, yuck. That's not good in God's eyes Come on man. That is why it's a human institution and God, I will say wherever God is, he is not in the Vatican this weekend. Because, that shit is backstabbing brutality.
Speaker 2:And I don't know why. It sounds like they're like sealing his casket with like a caulking gun.
Speaker 1:This old house, seal it up.
Speaker 2:This old coffin. Literally that's what I'm picturing in my brain.
Speaker 1:No, I guess he goes. Does he go to lie with all the other popes? Do they have a big pope cemetery?
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't freaking know, yeah, like a mausoleum or something.
Speaker 1:The tombs, tom, I don't freaking know. Yeah, like a mausoleum or something. The tombs, the tombs. Anyway, that's a nice little way to just make sure you get some bad press even after you're dead. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know so good for you. Pope Francis Gives and he gives and he still gives in the afterlife.
Speaker 1:And then don't they have to? They send some smoke through the butthole of the Vatican, and that's how you know the new pope is around.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Where is the chimney yeah, they vaporize it as.
Speaker 2:I was saying this, I was like I am going to regret asking where the butthole of the Vatican is.
Speaker 1:Well, the butthole of all houses is the chimney.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:Well, what else would it be, the tub?
Speaker 2:The garbage chute.
Speaker 1:You haven't seen a lot of buttholes, have you? Poop chute, wow, all right. Well, speaking of death and Massachusetts, new England area, where Kyle comes from, this is fucking crazy, guys. Guys, yeah, okay, get around the campfire, guys, we're about to have a story time.
Speaker 2:What's happening?
Speaker 1:In real time we might be seeing a serial killer. We're the only show covering this. Yeah, the last time we might be seeing a serial killer we're the only show covering this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the last time we talked about it, there were only six uh bodies that were found.
Speaker 1:Now there's eight eight new england serial killer, fears are heightened. Oh snap.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Are they like new bodies that were just found yes, but they've been dead for a while or like there's no?
Speaker 3:they're killing in real time now yes, oh shit.
Speaker 1:So the body that was currently found didn't even have a rigor mortis set in yet, so that was. That's right off the presses even rigoring mortis not even rigoring mortis. So there is the eighth body has been found. It is a gruesome discovery. It's in an. It's in what's being called an idyllic American town, which obviously it is not.
Speaker 3:It's not. Yeah, it's Springfield, massachusetts. It's a shithole.
Speaker 1:Is that the one that Simpsons?
Speaker 3:are based off of. Well, every state has a Springfield, but they figured it out it's Springfield, Oregon.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're Oregonian, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Really, you would never think that, but that's where he's from, matt Groening, really.
Speaker 2:I didn't know. That's where the Simpsons was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it explains, Lisa, yeah. But I just can't see Homer really fitting in in Oregon.
Speaker 2:Me neither.
Speaker 1:They'd be like go vote for Trump. Or like Mr Smithers no.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought they were maybe Illinois or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really thought they were in Colorado for some reason. Or is that South Park?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's South Park. Yeah, that's South Park. Anyway, fears of a serial killer in New England have been reignited after an eighth body was discovered. The body was found unresponsive, just off a bike path, as we mentioned, in Springfield, massachusetts. They currently found seven people, mostly women, between March and April in Massachusetts, connecticut and Rhode Island again the body. For all intents and purposes it was fresh and somebody was just on the bike track doing exercise. And what do you do? When you try to take care of yourself, you find dead bodies now fucking Pope Mahoney's on the case.
Speaker 2:Oh my god why would he be on the case?
Speaker 1:I don't want mahoney on the case. He's just gonna cover it up. Yeah, true, I'm gonna find a serial killer. Why let him go? Over the last two months, human remains have been recovered in Rhode Island and Plymouth, as well as a number again across Connecticut New Haven, norwalk, groton and aptly named Killingly.
Speaker 2:I feel bad for you know just all the people that are like worried to walk home late at night, I mean come on. I mean a serial killer in real time. That's not something I can really grasp my brain around. You could tell me that all day. Your town, by the way, has a serial killer. I'll be like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:You tell me, though it's not kind of fun. You get together with your guy friends, your girl friends, and you're just like there's a serial killer. We better walk home tonight, guys, and then just be like no one, leave the basement with a, bring your buddy buddy system. And then you get drunk and then one person's like there ain't no killer out here, I'm gonna go take a dump in the woods. And then they die and shit, and you're like whoa what movie is this?
Speaker 1:every movie, usa, nice. The discovery spurred the formation of a facebook group, so your things are getting serious oh, here come the armchair detectives and I love armchair detectives me too sometimes, sometimes they're way better at the job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just have a lot of time, they care they do?
Speaker 1:They do care. They have a lot of time on their hands. You are both correct on that. And they did again bust the Luigi not Luigi Mangione, what's the other name that one guy, the real handsome dude, but he was also a total psychopath. They found out who he was by the gas station in Canada. You know who he is, so Kyle's on it. So there's a formation of a new Facebook group New England Serial Killer that's what it's called and it spread fervor on social media over the possibility that a murderer may be on the loose.
Speaker 3:The Highway of Tears guy.
Speaker 1:No, the main guy, the guy don't fuck with cats.
Speaker 3:Oh, luca, magnata Luca.
Speaker 1:Magnata Luca.
Speaker 2:Magnata.
Speaker 1:Yes. Police, however, continue to reject the theory, condemning the speculation as nothing more than internet rumors. It seems to me as if these police officers might not want to do their job.
Speaker 3:It is odd, though, because it's so hard. Even with the Gilgo beach killings, they started with the Gilgo 4, but there were so many more and they were refusing to say that they were connected. I think it's crazy that these are in all different states and they're saying they're all connected right now.
Speaker 2:It's very early. They've made this fuck up so many times.
Speaker 3:There must be something very gruesome. That is like happening the same to everybody, but they're not saying it.
Speaker 1:Perhaps, perhaps, connecticut State Police. This is what they say. They say there is no information at this time suggesting any connection to similar remains discoveries and there is also no threat to the public at this time. But eight people are dead in two months. Doesn't that seem like a lot of murder for two months?
Speaker 3:To be fair, springfield, massachusetts, there's a murder like every day Is there? Yeah, it's like a city and you know there's murders in cities.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they're not. These are unique, these are separate and they just built some casinos there too.
Speaker 3:So you know, when that happens, murders go up too. No, when that happens, all the money comes in. Oh my God, yeah. But then people don't pay the money back, and then they have to go.
Speaker 1:Oh, they have to pay yeah.
Speaker 2:And because hookers right.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:That's my wife. Hey, sex work is work, it is. So. Eight bodies have been identified, all women, with officials noting that some of the bodies recovered were degraded, making it hard to identify. One of the women, paige Fannin, 35, of West Islip, was found March 6th on the Norwalk River. They noted that her clothing and personal items were found on the banks of the river, which prompted a dive team. There was also Denise Leary, who was 59, michelle Romano, who was 56. Yep, there's a lot of people. She was found in Killingly and, yes, anyway.
Speaker 2:That's so scary, we'll keep you updated. You don't feel that in your own reality of like, oh, I'm going to walk to my car and I'm going to run into something on my way there.
Speaker 1:That's why you can't help anyone. I broke my arm. I can't get my books into my car. Well sorry, buddy Sorry.
Speaker 3:Sorry, Ted Bundy.
Speaker 1:That was the one woman that survived Ted Bundy I'm sure there was a couple, but the one that got kind of famous for it. He was holding his books and then he was like I can't open my car door with my books. And then she said, well, how'd you get them out? Yeah, boom, okay, fine, I'm not actually, I was going to rape and kill you. I was going to rape and kill you.
Speaker 2:You got me, alright, we'll start over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's start over, start over, all right. Hey there, how are you? I need help with my books. Feel like dying. That's more like it. I am just red in the face. I just am so embarrassed. I'm very embarrassed, so wow.
Speaker 1:The worst serial killer of all time, real silly. Well, speaking of Gilgo Beach, we do have a small update on that as well. They have discovered, they have finally identified one of the victims, two, two of the victims, two of them Very good, so hopefully that can lead to some closure with the family One of the victims. They were simply called Peaches.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she had a peach tattoo and she was killed with her daughter.
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 3:In the 90s. They haven't been able to piece. They have the pictures of the two people who have been missing the whole time. It's like how have you not figured this out since 1995 or 97, whenever this happened? Yeah, yeah, oh, my god.
Speaker 2:Yeah, armchair detective Kyle on the case.
Speaker 1:So sad he's on the case. So the names of murdered mom and daughter Found in the search for the Gilgo Beach victims. They have been revealed. It was Tanya Denise Jackson, a 27 year old military veteran mom, and she was called what so she had training.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but this guy is just a monster.
Speaker 1:She was called Peaches Because again of her peach tattoo, and she was found with her daughter, tatiana Marie Dykes. They were both killed in 1997 and her baby is so cute.
Speaker 2:That's her fucking baby. That's a baby ass baby. Who takes out a baby the gilgo beach killer fucking piece of shit so they have identified her.
Speaker 1:Uh, she was a single mom from alabama who was born in 1970, Army veteran living in Brooklyn working at a doctor's office at the time of her death. It's just unfortunate no one cared enough to actually solve this case. Before they did, Investigators showed pictures of the gold bracelets Jackson was wearing when she was killed, and baby Tiana was born in 1995 and killed in 1997.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, so sad baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she would just be doing TikTok videos right now, having fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Being a person, yeah. Being alive She'd be 30 years old. Holy crap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, wow, yeah, and that's younger than us. Yeah, no, I don't like to think about it. Yeah, wow, yeah, and that's younger than us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I don't like to think about it, I don't even like to think about it. Anyway, all right, well, let's do another story in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2:And there's just a bunch of updates.
Speaker 3:What is happening over there, guys? It's par for the course. What are you talking?
Speaker 1:about it really is. And, kyle, I want you to kind of take the lead here, because you have been following the Karen Reid case for a long, long time, and maybe just break it down for the people we know. Karen Reid she was arrested for killing her husband or boyfriend, boyfriend, husband, boyfriend, boyfriend and then the cops are like you killed him, but then she's like I think you killed him.
Speaker 3:And then hence where we are now. Yeah, yes, karen reed. She was dating a boston police officer, john o'keefe.
Speaker 1:They were drinking uh, with a bunch of other boston cops and state police officers, it's both the safest and least safe place you can possibly be.
Speaker 3:Yes, yep uh, karen cheated on john with one of the officers that were there. Oh, she did. They made out and he, like, like that night, had this candle burning for her. No, it was like weeks before.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And so he's been texting her like hey, babe, what are you up to? And he's like this little tiny troll, she was not interested.
Speaker 1:She was just trying to piss off her boyfriend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like this, the stand being like, and then she told me that I'm hot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then I said she's hot. Yeah, it was so awkward. He did not know how to flirt at all.
Speaker 2:So weird. He's funny. Yeah, he's a front. And then they were like oh, you think I'm hot Since when they were like, well, from jump yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm like what the? I fucking chopped liver over here and she's ignoring him.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I almost want to hear some yoga after this.
Speaker 3:Oh, my god, so align your chakras so you can see them on the footage at the bar. They're all there together and the dude that she made out with weeks before is like talking shippy and like come over here, come like pretty much, come fight me.
Speaker 2:And to karen reed no to care to john karen reed you're not gonna make out with me, we're gonna fight you fucking fight right now okay, so she's going after.
Speaker 1:So he's going after the boyfriend. He wants to take the boyfriend out so he can get to reed.
Speaker 3:Yeah so he's like come on, come on. And he's like goading him on to like come out and fight him. Wow, they end up saying, hey, just come over to our house, we're gonna have a little after party oh my god, that's why, that's how they got over there.
Speaker 3:She drives john over there and she goes. I've never been here before. I feel weird, like can you make sure that we're welcome here? And he goes. Yeah, so he gets up, goes into the house and stays in there for like 20 minutes. She ends up leaving because she felt so awkward. She's like I'm not gonna fucking just walk in there he's also.
Speaker 2:He was again. She was also drunk and she thought that he left to cheat on her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, with the same guy, with the guy.
Speaker 2:No no.
Speaker 1:It was going to be a piggy fest. Oink, oink, uh-oh, don't go in that room.
Speaker 3:So she leaves and then all hell breaks loose. He's found dead on the lawn with dog bites all over his arm and two black eyes. They his brother said it looked like he went uh, nine rounds with mike tyson. Damn, uh, all the doctors. Jake paul, originally said that you know he was beaten to death, and then all of a sudden they flipped it on karen because they had a perfect scapegoat and said that she backed into him and her taillight was cracked. She they show it on camera when she's looking for him she backs out and hits his car and then drives off.
Speaker 3:But they were like oh, you fucking hit him, and that taillight is what gave him all the dog bites on his arm.
Speaker 2:Which is ridiculous. It's the stupidest thing ever. Was she in?
Speaker 1:like the Ford Beethoven or something? Does it have the ability to bite?
Speaker 2:Yes, and if that doesn't look suspicious and fucking terrible once, it's the Chevy Cujo. Yeah, if that doesn't look suspicious and fucking terrible, once they were like well, those are dog bites, where's the dog? And they were like oh, that's funny because we got rid of the fucking thing.
Speaker 3:They got rid of the fucking dog that night.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, like during the fucking case, like while it was being invented, they were like well, we don't have the dog anymore.
Speaker 3:It's a giant, giant German shepherd they had for seven years and had attacked four other people before. Well, it's German, they got rid of it.
Speaker 1:Maybe I shouldn't have named myself Switzerland, wait, poland, thank you. So there was also a witness in Karen Reid's trial that has now admitted to lying to the grand jury. Yes, so who?
Speaker 2:is this chick? What was her name again?
Speaker 3:This is Carrie Roberts.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Carrie Roberts.
Speaker 2:She has that text message.
Speaker 1:And she was a close friend.
Speaker 2:Not text message. She had the Google thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, and she was the close friend of John O'Keefe, the police officer who wanted to bang Karen Reid.
Speaker 3:Who was banging Karen Reid who?
Speaker 1:Well, was he banging her?
Speaker 3:No, he's the. John O'Keefe is the boyfriend.
Speaker 1:That's the boyfriend Got you, got you, got you.
Speaker 3:So she said to the original grand jury that she heard Karen Reed scream how long does it take to die in the cold? And Jen McCabe Googled that. But this is the thing. Who's Jen McCabe? Jen McCabe is one of the wives of the people who were there.
Speaker 2:Okay, she was in the house that night and she's such a piece of shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3:She originally Googled that at 2.47 in the morning. His dead body wasn't found until 6 am. So she knew that someone in the house beat the shit out of him and they threw him on the lawn and they were going to blame a plow because it was a blizzard that night. So they were going to blame it on the plow driver.
Speaker 1:Jeez.
Speaker 3:Imagine if they did, that plow driver would be devastated. Kerry roberts was told the grand jury that she heard karen say that and then admitted in this trial that she never heard her say it. That's huge it's absolutely my god, because they said oh, the cell bright data that they took off the phone was wrong. She actually did that at six in the morning when he was found because karen was yelling at her to do it. They have full police cam videos.
Speaker 3:She never said it once she never said that yeah, and kerry roberts, finally, was like I misunderstood the question. I thought they were asking me if I knew that she said it, because I was told that she did say that, that's not what she fucking said on the stand exactly that is not what she's complete bullshit and it's the only reason. It's the lynch pin of why she's even being charged in the first place oh my god, people have.
Speaker 1:People have to stop lying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's disgusting.
Speaker 2:Yes, that infamous little Google search at 2.45 in the morning, not 6 am, where it says Haas long to die in cold.
Speaker 1:It's spelled H-O-S.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Haas long to die in cold.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:And what was the answer? I wonder how long does it take to die in the cold?
Speaker 3:At that point it was only a few hours, but his body temperature was still so high, it was so clear that he did not get hit by the car and die of injuries due to a car accident.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. So that testimony was given in 2022. She has now recanted that testimony. So if you're the defense of Karen Reid, you have to be feeling pretty good at this point right, that's pretty good read.
Speaker 2:you have to be feeling pretty good at this point, right yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as long as the jury's not getting confused, because that's the thing too. It's like you're dealing with a bunch of people like kaylina. When we were watching it, um, the prosecution was trying to get this bullshit thing in and, uh, karen reed's team said objection and they were objecting to it. And she's like, oh my god, that's so bad for karen. They're objecting. I'm like that's not at all. They're trying to fucking stop something bullshit from happening.
Speaker 1:Nice, but she just thinks that because kyle's sneaking, sneaking in a dick on the baby mama. By the way, the chicken, my baby's a dummy, you fucking idiot no, come on no, but people do think stuff like that.
Speaker 3:It's like if you hear objection, you think automatically oh, they're guilty, trying to cover something up which is not true yeah I would love to be a lawyer, just for one day one I object to that?
Speaker 1:uh, sir, we're doing the swearing in. I don't curse when's lunch, when's lunch we just got here, sir. Are you actually the public defender? I'm here, I walked into the room. I'm in the public, aren't I?
Speaker 2:What do you want? It's pro bono, never mind.
Speaker 3:It just means I got a huge cock.
Speaker 1:Oh, lordy, so we will continue to follow. That Is that basically the update, and that's huge.
Speaker 3:Yes, that is the biggest thing that's happened so far that she said oh, I misunderstood the question. I thought I was told that she said it.
Speaker 2:She was, and she was pretty frantic and kind of like crying on the stand about it.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, she's about to sentence an innocent woman to prison for life, so I feel pretty bad too.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Chris just said linchpin, you mean Jesus nut. There we go.
Speaker 2:Thank you the Jesus nut.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Chris from the chat All right. Final story A young Australian woman is very upset.
Speaker 2:What? But that's so unlike them.
Speaker 1:I know they're such a peaceful well they're. Unfortunately they're like under lockdown constantly and they really have no freedom of rights over there.
Speaker 2:Yeah kind of strange but beautiful. I mean the second. They leave the house, bam skin cancer that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:So a young australian woman. She is really upset because she went to get her vagina waxed and it took the whole thing off. No, the vagina is still there. The vagina is still there. It's even worse, just like oh, my God. It's even worse.
Speaker 2:You just see it on the outside of the wax strip. Yeah, two giant lips.
Speaker 3:Then for some reason, there's no hole anymore.
Speaker 1:It's just a taint, if you squint your eyes really, really, if you squint your eyes quite a bit, it looks like the Virgin Mary.
Speaker 2:Wait, you mean like Barbie.
Speaker 1:Like we wax off the vagina and then it just like In that Barbie mode. Yeah, do they have wax Barbie, where it just comes with a full bush and you can wax it?
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Her name is Sarah Button. She went on social media because she had her first Brazilian waxing appointment.
Speaker 3:Got her button waxed. Congratulations to her.
Speaker 1:Yes, the Brazilian, that is really invasive. You're in the perineum, you're going through the whole thing. It's a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's a service, is what it is.
Speaker 1:Exactly so. She wanted to get all of her pubic hair removed. Obviously quite intimate. It's not intimate.
Speaker 2:It's not intimate. I don't know if you guys have ever had a wax or something.
Speaker 1:It's not intimate You're spread eagle.
Speaker 3:Legs up in the air like a baby. That's not intimate.
Speaker 1:It's not sexual, but it's an intimate moment.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I guess I feel like the word intimate is too intimate for what is actually happening there. It's a very transactional service.
Speaker 1:No arousal.
Speaker 2:It's not a thing where happy endings come into it. It doesn't even feel good.
Speaker 3:Well, intimate just means to me like vulnerable, vulnerable.
Speaker 2:Let's go vulnerable.
Speaker 1:You're in a vulnerable position.
Speaker 2:A vulva vulnerable situation. Oh wow, that's muted there.
Speaker 1:So the waxer, after giving the wax, right this chick Miss Button, she leaves. Then she receives a text message right, this chick Miss Button, she leaves. Then she receives a text message right, and it's kind of funny. And then the text message says from the waxer to Button. It says just in the future, I'll have to charge you a little bit more for the size of the area. Oh God, yes. And then she says I hope that makes sense, nothing crazy, just like $5 or $10 extra, what? And then Button wrote back no worries. But in reality she had worries.
Speaker 3:Many worries.
Speaker 1:She was all pissed off, holy shit.
Speaker 2:Right, what do you mean?
Speaker 3:You tell me I got a fat puss A lot of square footage here.
Speaker 1:This is what's interesting, so they say after. She had a lot of time to reflect, so apparently she was really stuck on this. She got pissed.
Speaker 1:She was furious like air to wax hey, you know what that wasn't, that wasn't okay yep, she said it made her angry why you can find her on Instagram at Sarah S Button. Then she says that this is what she says. She says it made me feel initially a bit sad and confused and ashamed, but that quickly turned to anger and I was just pissed off about the whole thing. She goes on to say, mostly pissed, that there wasn't any mention of it during the consultation or the actual appointment or anything, which means the waxer was stunned and couldn't mention it. He said, oh, I better not mention anything, I'm going to get sucked in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. He's like this isn't going to end, well, it's not going to end well, right.
Speaker 1:So she says like it wasn't until I had gotten home that I got the message. The 27-year-old says she isn't sure if this is a common experience and she doesn't want to put anyone off getting waxed, but she does want to share. She says in the text exchange people were getting pretty outraged. One person says that is crazy, please don't go back thereged. One person says that is crazy, please don't go back there. And then another person says she can't send you that and another person says no way. And then another person says that is ridiculous. The nerve of that person, anyway, you get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, totally yeah, I don't. Yeah, that's really that sucks. Where is she getting waxed? It sounds like a really, really private business for someone to be like texting them about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's true, I would ghost phone that. That's a ghost phone.
Speaker 2:That's something. No, that's, I don't want to be hearing from my OBGYN. I know right Via text Boy or girl Ob-Gen.
Speaker 1:Do you go to a woman?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Do men still do that profession, or is it mostly women now?
Speaker 2:Men still do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They're usually like really old.
Speaker 1:I thought the hand that rocks the cradle kind of ruined that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean it does. He did that fingering with her and then she killed the whole family.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right. So then one other person says crikey, that is rough, Crikey, crikey, that's not a pussy, this is a pussy, that's my australian accent.
Speaker 2:That's pretty good yeah thanks, really, really powerful there you go.
Speaker 1:But it turns out that she knows this about herself. She says that she has a fat upper pussy area and she she has a fupa and she knows that about herself. The experience particularly hurt miss button because she previously was on social media saying that she has a fatty upper pubic area. So she went in there and she was already self-conscious about her big old fucking pussy yeah and then and then she felt like, oh wow, it was waxed.
Speaker 1:Now it looks like, mr wonderful, from shark tank also. If you do have a big old fupa, put a wig on it, keep the hair.
Speaker 3:Oh, it sounds like she did no wait, what no, she went to her waxer to get it removed. I mean, I think if you have a big old fupa, put a wig on it Keep the hair.
Speaker 2:Well, it sounds like she did. No. Wait what no, she went to her waxer to get it removed.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think if you have a big fat pussy and you're conscious about it, then keep the hair up there. It's like if you have a head of hair and you shave it and you're like oh, I got a little bump on my head.
Speaker 2:Grow. Does she have a fupa?
Speaker 3:She has a fupa. Yeah, fupa is a different thing, it's a totally different thing.
Speaker 2:This is going back to the find the button situation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like the lower gut.
Speaker 2:It's a lot higher up than you think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought of her chin.
Speaker 1:The fupa, it's still the fat upper pussy area. Yeah, that far.
Speaker 3:It's too low to be called a gut.
Speaker 2:It's too high to be called the pussy. Yeah, I agree, and it's actually really necessary. You know, that's where there's always a little bit of extra fatty skin there on girls, because it's like protecting your womb.
Speaker 1:Oh, very nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like supposed to you know. This is where the baby stuff happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was going to say she could maybe put a little mouse in there and kind of raise it. It'd be kind of fun, what like, hey I have a little mouse in my foot bud, I'm going to take it out and kind of have a little party trick.
Speaker 2:Is that a kangaroo joke?
Speaker 1:That was more mouse.
Speaker 3:They're both marsupials, aren't they?
Speaker 1:Are? They Is mouse a marsupial?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Anyway, she's got a big old pussy. The question is this is the question Is it right to charge more for a big pussy? Because does she charge less for the small pussies? That's what I'm going to say Because.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you one thing. I'll tell you one thing I'm getting charged the same as somebody else who's getting charged when we both go to the same. Well, let's just imagine I'm small and then I'm going to a buffet and I'm paying five bucks. And this fat fuck is paying five bucks. He's eating triple what I'm eating. Shouldn't I have to pay less, or him pay more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's why I don't go to all-you-can-eat buffets, because there's just no point in me being there.
Speaker 3:I will get full off the appetizer and then I'm done and there's people breathing on your food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a place in Fort Lauderdale that's real nice, real big old. There's a line of cows outside at 5 pm. That's when it opens.
Speaker 2:Humans, human cows. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, I did picture cows in line.
Speaker 1:Basically, that's what they are. Anyway, what do you got?
Speaker 3:Mice are not marsupials, but there are marsupials that are mice. What? There are marsupials that are mice.
Speaker 2:What? There are some marsupial mice. There are marsupials. It's like weird mice with weird deer legs. Well, wax that.
Speaker 1:Give that a wax. Oh my Lord, All right. Anyone in the chat have anything to say at all.
Speaker 3:They charge for grooming larger dogs. So Chris says fair game.
Speaker 1:Well, Chris, okay.
Speaker 2:What are you trying to say?
Speaker 1:I mean I just, is it really that different, is it really that big?
Speaker 2:a deal. It's a human service that you're doing, where none of the bodies are going to look the same.
Speaker 3:They need to have a chart saying this is what we charge per square lippage. Oh my God, so you know? Lippage, that's true, Not square lippage.
Speaker 1:And then you got to put it like you know, put it next to your pussy and see. It's like when you used to see, like how big is my foot, and you'd have put it in that metal contraption, yeah, exactly yeah, I don't know, you know one of those.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, my god, I think I'd like a gynecologist that smokes a cigar, yeah, uh, maybe not in in the room.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe not into the, you know entrance and no point, any arousal, huh, during that experience no, god, it's.
Speaker 2:It's the silliest, it is the silliest thing ever.
Speaker 1:I have to go to get a colonoscopy in two years, so I'm trying to prepare.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not going to be the same. You're not going to have a person just being like, hey girl, nice to see you again. So, listen, did that guy ever call you back from last month? And then, whup, okay, that wasn't so bad, right, all right, and it's very painful Right, she calms you down and then also she's like all right, turn over now and then she's like oh yeah, but the other night I wonder what I'm going to get for lunch and I don't know. Fupa Whoa Rips and yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't rip my fupa Oof.
Speaker 3:All right, anything control about Massachusetts.
Speaker 1:Yes, please.
Speaker 3:Chris is wondering how Boston is so big, but everyone knows each other, that is true.
Speaker 1:They're all Italian, Irish. It's called being a townie the mob. It's dangerous. You don't want to be known in that area. You're going to get whacked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't want to be.
Speaker 3:I would want to be very under the radar, exactly, and then they're saying people should be panicking about this New England serial killer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's insane, because you never know where the next body's going to show up.
Speaker 1:You really don't. Maybe in this chick's fupa you gotta wax it out of there. I found this missing girl from 1997 in there. I told you I have a fat upper pussy.
Speaker 2:Well, because of that, I'm going to have to charge you a little bit extra.
Speaker 3:Great f I told you I have a fat upper pussy. Well, because of that, I'm going to have to charge you a little bit extra Great.
Speaker 1:FUPA murders of 2025. All right, well, we got some crazy stories for tomorrow, y'all, so stick around. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of OK Bud Rate and reviews. Keep on supporting the show. We're growing. Yeah, thank you for all the love. We can't get enough of it.