EPISODE 33: NBA & NHL PLAYOFF FIRST ROUND CONTINUES & DIANNA RUSSINI/MIKE VRABEL SCANDAL

The boys continue to take First Round of the NBA & NHL Playoffs. They also break down the Dianna Russini & Mike Vrabel affair.

NHL FIRST ROUND: 1:15-54:00

NBA FIRST ROUND: 54:00-1:49:30

DIANNA RUSSINI & MIKE VRABEL AFFAIR: 1:49:30-2:06:45

LIONS NFL DRAFT RECAP 2:06:45-2:17:30

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:16

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 33 of the Nosebleed Narrative. My name is Ryan Heffner. To my left, Chris Robert, to my right. Chris Bean. And guys, we're going to be talking about the same things we were talking about last week. We had a lot of great hockey, a lot of great basketball. There's five 3-2 series right now in the NHL. Absolutely electric. And then the entire Eastern Conference in the NBA is all 3-2 right now. And our beloved Pistons just won a game five, which was massive. We're going to be talking about all that, all those series. And don't forget, we're going to be talking about Mike Varabel as well. I think you guys know what we're talking about. He got nasty in the bed sheets with some other people with some other chicks. And we're probably going to go over the Lions. Why are you laughing, B?

SPEAKER_00 1:02

I was going to say that's hot, but you kind of described it like that. So I didn't even say that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09

And then we're going to go over the NFL draft, just strictly over the Detroit Lions. Took Blake Miller, took a couple Michigan men. And yeah, we're going to go over that. And without further ado, Bean, please take it away. Let's talk hockey.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

Yeah, thank you, Hefa. Like you just said, a lot of 3-2 series in NBA and NHL. Six of the series in the NHL have gone to game six. One of them ended last night in game six. Philly was trying to avoid going to game seven after 3-0. After going up 3-0, and they won in overtime. 1-0. Cam York. First goal, Chris. Michigan man. Oh, I didn't know that. He went to Michigan. A lot of players playing in the playoffs went to Michigan. And just in the NHL period. But first goal in 37 games dating back to January, including regular season and playoffs. And it came at the perfect time, Chris. It was a fantastic night in the NHL last night and really the first couple weeks to start the playoffs. But I guess we can start there and just kind of go in order. What did you think of Philly winning the first round series against the rival? They got off to a hot start and then they had to grind to get one win in three games. What stood out to you the most in that series?

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Honestly, being I don't really care about the series at all. Because they're going to lose next round? Yeah, both teams suck. It was awesome that they got to, you know, participate in the playoffs this year. Good for them. I mean, it's always cool to see, like I said last week, Crosby in the playoffs. But um, and you know, Philly's a up-and-coming young team. That's cool. Um just not really not a very interesting series, in my opinion. It went up three. Oh, you know, it ha I don't know. The both teams are they have no chance at going very far. Don't really care.

SPEAKER_04 3:10

What how much longer is Crosby playing? Do we know do we know that answer? Like, is he like could that potentially have been his last season or is he still?

SPEAKER_01 3:18

No, no, no. He'll be back next year. How old? Like, he's old as shit. I think he's 38. 38, yeah. Uh and he, you know, famously makes eight point seven million dollars every year.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Why is that famously?

SPEAKER_01 3:30

That's his number. That's his jersey number. Oh, okay. And he he could he could, you know, get paid however much money he wanted wanted this whole time, but he's taking a hometown discount. Well, not hometown, but he's taking a friendly discount um for Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

So he just wanted to make 8.7 million just because of his jersey number? Um That that number must mean a lot to him.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

That's part of it. Uh I'm trying I'm blanking on who his agent is, being uh who's his agent? I don't know. Uh he's the the most famous agent in in the NHL. Um but he he has some he has some good stories about how that number came to be. And the first time it happened, it was more so um he Crosby was coming off an injured year, and um and Crosby wanted a really long-term deal, and so they thought like something like that was fair, but he definitely could have made a lot more money in his career.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Um and Malkin is a free agent, so it could be the it could be the last year of the big three him, Lating, and Crosby. So that's it could be an end of the era, even though Crosby might play a year another year or two.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Pat Brasan. That's who that's Crosby's.

SPEAKER_04 4:48

That's like the big three Warriors breaking up.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Yeah, yeah. So it's it could be the end of the uh end of the era. Uh I thought it was a boring series, Chris, but then the penguins dragged it out, and then it was anyone's game in in game six last night. But I I agree with you. I I think Carolina's gonna whoop them. Carolina whooped uh Ottawa uh in four games, and they'll probably win in four or five. Uh the only thing I gotta uh mention about the Carolina Ottawa series is I loved all the Red Wings fans going after the Ottawa posting a bunch of uh memes of Ottawa hanging up banners, played extra four extra games in 2025-26. That was uh that kind of was a good uh good cope after the Red Wings choked again.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Yeah, I liked it for that reason, and I like it because you you know the whole Raymond Stutzel debate on uh you know who's better from that draft class, and then also the whole like uh you know them losing and you I don't I don't think Brady likes being in Canada, especially not Ottawa. I mean, that's like one of the worst cities.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

That was another thing too, was NHL Media was trying to push tr uh trade proposals after they got swept. Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Is that bad, Chris? Uh as a city? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's like living in like a a colder, worse Washington, DC. Really expensive. It's just like only political I mean, they're called the Senators because all the senators live in out of Ottawa.

SPEAKER_04 6:23

What's like the go-to like out of all like the hockey cities, what's like the go like where would what's the most prized city, I guess? Like where you would want to live, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

Um, I mean, I I think it's changed a lot throughout the years. I would say right at this current moment, probably number one is probably Florida, I would say. Uh the Panthers. My I mean you get to live in Miami, they have unreal facilities, they all live together.

SPEAKER_04 6:50

I was talking about in Canada. Oh, in Oh, in Canada.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

I thought I thought you met in the league. Oh, but I thought I meant out of the Canadian teams. Um, out of the Canadian teams, I'd probably say Vancouver because um the media is a little less crazy. I mean, uh it's still crazy. Anywhere you play in Canada, it's crazy. But it's beautiful, beautiful to live in. And probably Toronto, right? Yeah, they're probably Toronto or Montreal. I mean, Montreal, I think, is the best rink and stadium atmosphere in the league. So I think it's pretty cool to play at Montreal as well.

SPEAKER_04 7:25

I might go as far as saying sports, dude. I I watched it. Yeah, we can go to that series. Yeah, yeah, that was insanity. Like the crowd, like I've never heard anything like that in high basketball.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

I was I was texting you guys uh on Saturday for game four. It was I was watching it with my dad, and it was before uh the national anthems. I think they were doing what they sing Seven Nation Army Chris, where they go bum bum bum bum bum bum, and then they go right into the anthems, and I said I literally was tie uh tearing up because it was so cool. I mean that's that that's why you you you watch sports is for moments like that. And Montreal is known for having a great crowd, um, but I it they're becoming second to none in in the four American sports just because they're bit they've been able to showcase it now with a good team, a good young team. And uh that I mean that series has been three overtime games, Chris. I bless you. And then back back, yeah. The first three games went to overtime, and then the back-to-back three, two games that didn't go in overtime, but um Tampa won game four in Montreal, and then uh Montreal won in Tampa now is a chance to close it out. But uh I mean you said it last week, it could be in Eastern Conference finals, and that's kind of what we've seen in the first five games so far.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

Yeah, by far the most entertaining series, I think. Well, maybe one other one, but I think it's one of the most entertaining series. Extremely physical. I mean, countless fights, penalties, um really good gameplay, overtimes, all the good storylines, um, you know, some some young players playing well, some veterans playing well. Uh the one thing that I um have been seeing is I I Vasileski has not looked as elite in my opinion as he typically does, so they're really gonna need him to play at his absolute best in game six, um to force the game seven. And uh we'll we'll see what happens. Like I like we talked about last week and you and you mentioned being I I I think the winner of this game will be in the finals. Yeah, that's pretty much your Eastern Conference finals, right? I can't I I think so. I mean Carolina I would give Carolina a a better chance against um Montreal. But we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_04 10:00

What were your thoughts, Ryan? I was mostly watching the NBA, Chris. Um but I was watching I watched I was like switching on to hockey, and my thoughts were already said. I think the Montreal crowd might be the best crowd I've ever heard in sports. Yeah. A lot of people think that. Like, including football, basketball, hockey. Yeah, a lot of people think that everything.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

Just because it's what 18,000 fans in you know in a confined arena and making all that noise. And it's not like it's their only sport too, really.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

They have the CFO, but that probably helps it's like their only sport, and then also I think it's just the city, you know. Um it's it's it's a nice area, but it's not like as it's not like, you know, Toronto, where Toronto people complain that the tickets are so expensive and it's just like executives in suits at the games and no one's really like cheering. Right. Um Montreal, everyone's just going nuts.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Yeah, I feel like as you just said, Bean, like if that's their only sports team, I think that could be a huge, like a big advantage of how loud your crowd or how big a fan base could be. Because like you know, Toronto has like the Raptors, the Maple Leaves, they they have like multiple teams and like they're all probably split up into like, oh, I'm a Maple Leafs fan, oh I'm a Raptors fan, some probably combined, but like if if you're from Montreal, I'm pretty sure everyone's just obsessed with hockey. And like I'm like they have no other sport to cheer for. You know, like so like they're probably all hockey fans.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

It's the it's kind of like uh when you see in soccer across the world, like that is their big and only sport. And so if you basically if you I mean we have four teams here in Detroit, if you combine all those four that you're fandom into one team, that's basically what it is for the Montreal, the Canadian teams, and then the soccer teams across the world.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Like Alabama, they don't really have college, like big college sports over there.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Yeah, SEC is a good comparison because a lot of those teams they don't have pro teams, they just have their college football team.

SPEAKER_04 12:15

Yeah, that's that's what I was gonna say. Like Alabama, they don't got any sports. They just all of the teams down south just are obsessed with college football. Right. You know, like the Alabamas of the world, the the Georgias, you know?

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Right, yeah, exactly. Uh, Chris, I do think Montreal or Tampa does win to force a game seven. I hope so. And then I I want to see I want to see another overtime game in game in game seven. We all want more hockey. Yeah, facts. I mean, it's five games they've been separated by one goal. So I I would love two overtime games to close it out, but I I I see like a three, two, two, one, two, one games in the next in the next two games, if it goes game seven. I would be stunned if it's a if there's a blowout. If you know, if an empty netter happens, sure, like though those are bound to happen, but I would be surprised if we get like a five-two, three-nothing, four-one game in game six or game seven.

SPEAKER_01 13:13

Yeah, I agree. I at least so far it's just been so physical and close, and it's just been great hockey.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Uh, I'm gonna go, I think Tampa wins tomorrow, but then I think Montreal closes it in Tampa. Uh I it'd be funny for Tampa to win on the road, and then Montreal to win on the road, Tampa, Montreal. It it would switch every or the last four games. The last the last four games would be winning on the road. I think that's how it's gonna pan out. Who do you have winning the series?

SPEAKER_01 13:46

I still I still think Tampa is gonna get it done um somehow, some way. I think they'll find a way. I I just have a hard time betting against uh Tampa.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Fair enough. I mean they've and they've had even though they're older, they've had the experiences, uh, the experience of winning two cups and Kutrov's and saying he's still performing at a at a high level, and obviously Vasileschi, who like you said, hasn't played the best. He's been in these big games, and once he gets the closeout games, he's nearly impossible to to beat.

SPEAKER_01 14:20

That's right. And power I I also look at the I think last game uh there were no power play goals, 0 for 7 combined. Um, you know, whoever can get the power play going these last couple games is probably gonna win it.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

I agree. Half would you go out winning the series?

SPEAKER_04 14:39

I I had Montreal to start, and I'm gonna stick with that. But I do wish that they uh you know uh the NHL commissioner made an executive decision to flip-flop who's home for six and seven. I wish uh Montreal would have the game seven. Yeah, I mean the game seven in Montreal would sound really cool.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but uh it'll be like a game seven atmosphere though. I mean, every game playoff game in Montreal is like that, so uh I I I don't think that'll that'll matter too much. Uh but I am gonna go Montreal on seven uh just just because I I I think the younger legs, Chris, are gonna are are gonna improve vital uh in the long term. Um in the other uh Eastern Conference series, uh Boston is trying to come back 3-1. Uh they what a prediction happened. They uh We ain't done yet.

SPEAKER_04 15:43

We ain't done yet.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

They they won in overtime the other day. Paster knock got the game-winning goal. Sick move. Uh yes, nasty move. That did you know it was over, Chris, when it once it touched his uh stick?

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Oh, when it when if pasta if pasta has the puck and uh no one in front of him, I mean in overtime, it's over.

SPEAKER_00 16:05

I w what stuck out to me in game five is how is Alex Lyon a starting goalie for one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference?

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Yeah, I I think that's impressive that they're that good with that line. But I mean Lion uh has historically played really good in the playoffs, you know. Thinking back before he was at with Detroit, uh he was with the Panthers and he he won them I think one or two series before Bob got back from his injury, and also um at the end of the regular season basically willed them into the playoffs. He got him in the playoffs, and then they won and then they won the without him on their roster, they probably don't win the Stanley Cup that year. Um so I mean he he he can really turn it on. I don't think he's like you know a goalie that you're gonna play like 55 games in the regular season, but he he's he's a gamer like Bennington.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

Yeah, it's uh it was cool. Um I mean it's good for him. Uh it's I'm glad Boston um even though I do want Buffalo, I'm glad Boston got it to game six just because you said, Chris, good uh more hockey is better for everyone. Uh but I do think I think Buffalo wins tonight. I think it's tonight uh to close out the series.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

Yeah, they do play tonight, but I hope the Bruins win, just so my Stanley Cup up. Your good vibes. My Stanley Cup final prediction stays alive.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

That was another thing too. I think they play tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 17:37

We were I thought it. Oh yeah, yeah, you're right. Stars Wild Oilers Ducks tonight.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Oh yeah, so tomorrow I think I was on the wrong day. I I I do think Buffalo closes out. But that was a cool I sent you the uh I sent you boys the uh the other night too, Buffalo singing Oh Canada because um the woman who was singing her mic cut out, so the the crowd was singing Oh Canada. That was I mean I was singing to it too. Listen watching the video, I was singing singing it was uh I wish we had a video of that. Just uh it was I I was kind of like soft singing because I was uh in a restaurant. I could have had that video even more. I didn't I I didn't want to belt it out, but you must believe if I was by myself I would have been I would would have been screaming it. But I believe you. But uh it's what is what is it about uh the playoffs in O Canada, Chris, that just gets gets me going.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

I mean it's absolutely elite national anthem for starters. Um so cool though that they that they were that that was at the Buffalo Boston game, right?

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

It's neither team is even Canadian.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Obviously, Buffalo probably has a lot of Canadian fans because that's right at the borders across. They're right there.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

But still, but they didn't even need to play it. Like and they play it anyways, and then everyone knows it. I mean, they're panning the video, you know, they're panning around the stadium, and you just see everyone seeing Canada, beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

I remember texting you uh two years ago when Vancouver was in in the playoffs and they were showing the anthems. It's uh I it's a great way to get uh to start a hockey game, I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Are you guys trying to say the the Canada National Anthem is better than the United States of America?

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Lyrically it is, yeah. It's hard to say it is it's not.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

I mean, I I love both of them.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

I mean, don't get me wrong, I get it just as emotional hearing the American anthem.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

But the Canadian anthem is I think it was really cool that it was Americans too like singing it, especially after you know last year where um Ottawa and Ottawa still has been booing the American national anthem a lot, and I I think that's part of why Brady hates it there. Um could be. Yeah. I mean that that's god if that doesn't make him angry that then I don't want him on team USA. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Um but um I I I don't think it's like gotta do with um like oh screw this anthem or screw that. I just think I mean it's like when you're watching that I was just trying to start some shit. No, yeah. No, I'm not trying to say oh the American anthem sucks for this and that, but but I'd be a hot take. But I but it just for playoff hockey, it just both anthems get me going. And it's always been like that.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

Yeah, I I saw um I think you guys might have just talked about this, but like when the anthem was cutting out and they Yeah, the Buffalo spent the last five minutes on that. Yeah, that was really cool.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

Um who do you think wins the series, Hefa? Um Buffalo or uh Boston.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

I th I think uh Buffalo's gonna win, but um this game's in Boston. Yeah. I think Buffalo's gonna win, but if it does go back to Buffalo, game seven, ever I heard ever since uh they displayed uh the saber chug on the screen, yeah, the Bruins went on a 2-0 run.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

That I did have a question.

SPEAKER_04 21:17

That's something they should be worried about. Good saber chug? Yeah, the saber chug.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Because I did have a question for that. If you had that saber in your hands, Chris, are you are you chugging?

SPEAKER_01 21:26

I'm absolutely chugging. But you know what I'm not doing? I'm not flailing my arms up and down and letting it go backwards like Whitney.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

That was that was a unbelievable uh and you know you know Biz Nasty set that up too, because it was during the break, it wasn't even during the game, so bit but And they put it on T V too, it wasn't just at the stadium. That that was a tough look. Apparently he was told not to chug, but I mean, come on, even if if if you're getting spilled, you gotta. You got a jersey on you anyways. So like it's doesn't even matter.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Yeah, you gotta. I I thought it was funny too seeing the clip of the um what what do they call themselves? The blade gang um coming on and and um Whitney and uh Merles I think it was um rollerblade like we're posted a clip of them rollerblading to Buffalo Stadium, right? That was pretty that was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

I can't even rollerblade uh being. Could you skate? I can't skate. No. There's no chance I'd be able to skate. Chris, remember when in middle school when we would we were at like Bonaventure? Or do you guys remember that? No, I don't. Me and Luke both couldn't skate.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

I remember Bonaventure. You didn't try to teach him, Chris?

SPEAKER_01 22:45

I do remember you lapped everyone when we did a race. Yeah, I love the Bonaventure races. You got like a free pass or whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

As soon as I saw that, I was like, okay, this guy looks like a like a beer league hockey champion.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

I could visualize half right now in my head on the uh beginner skates, just trying to kick it off the starting line.

SPEAKER_04 23:06

I'm a bender.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

That's simply what I am. But it's actually quite embarrassing. I can just yeah, imagine half like holding the boards as he's trying to skate around.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

Yeah, my girlfriend Alexis always goes, You want to go skating? I'm like, I just not feeling it today. In fact, I just don't want to embarrass myself. Is she a big skater? No, she just like thinks it's fun to do like here and there, like at uh uh St. Martius, or is that Campus Marshall's or Campus Marshus. Um I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Downtown Detroit.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

Detroit nowhere.

SPEAKER_04 23:37

Yeah, she always wants to do that, but I'm like, I'm good, man.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Come on, you gotta take her somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 23:42

Yeah, you gotta take it, take her out, right? Uh what do you want me to do? Just watch her skate? No, no, no, you skate too. I would have to hold her hand and like stay up. What it's that's fun. I'd have to hold her shoulder. That's fine. I I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

That's kind of romantic with the Christmas tree. Yeah, you're right. And and there's not a lot of room, anyways, because it's always packed. It would be good for the show. So where are you gonna go?

unknown 24:03

You know what?

SPEAKER_00 24:03

You guys might be right. I might we are right. You know, next winter next year. Next winter, I'm I'll do that. Bet. Uh, Chris, you got Buffalo or Boston winning? Uh I got Buffalo.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Seven or six? Six. I think I think they get her get her done tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah, so we agree on that. Half has Buffalo winning too, but in a start, he's got Boston off vibes, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:32

I'll just change it just because um I have him in the cup final. I'll say Bruins in seven just for the shits and gigs.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

Okay. All vibes, right?

SPEAKER_04 24:41

All vibes.

SPEAKER_00 24:43

All right, uh, moving on to the West. Chris, where do you want to start? Because all these series have I mean, let's I mean, we knew Colorado would win in four. I want to but all this other series have been cinema.

SPEAKER_04 24:55

What do you got? Chris, I want to start with Ducks Oilers because obviously the Ducks were up three to one, and the Oilers had a commanding victory in game five. They started up three-o. Um my question for you is this do you still believe in the Oilers?

SPEAKER_01 25:12

I do believe in the Oilers. I think McDavid's playing hurt. I don't know what's wrong with him exactly, but he's he's definitely.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

He got hurt uh his ankle or something. I think Ockham or someone's uh friendly flyer and landed on it or something like that awkwardly. Yeah. So I mean in game four, when he had that breakaway, he probably scores if he has enough bend in his ankle. You would have to imagine.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Yeah, he he hasn't been great. Um but I mean I I would say this series, uh, the Dallas series, the Tampa series, those are all the the best series that I think that we've seen. I mean Tenn is just so fun to watch because they can s they're never out of a game because they can score so many goals, but they always let up a lot of goals too. Yeah, they and it it's just always really fun hockey no matter who wins.

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Uh yeah, them giving up one goal was an uh was an anomaly, it seems like in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 26:13

Yeah, oh absolutely. Um so I I I still think that they can win this series. They've been down 3-1 multiple times and have won it uh the last few years.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

And two to it's like they I forgot I saw a record, a stat last week with uh Nablock. He's like in the first three games, he's well under 500, and then once they get to game four and better, they're so much better. I I wish I had the stat, but yeah, it's like they get down two to one, three to one, and that's when they start to settle in. Even three-o in the Stanley Cup finals a couple years ago. Yeah, and they forced a game seven.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

They did. They did.

SPEAKER_00 26:51

I mean it's like they get better as a series uh prolongs and continues just because they have so much talent and and now experience uh in these playoffs where it's and where they play where they're playing, you know, Anaheim, they're in the you know, cup final or Stanley Cup final uh playoffs for the first time, the uh their experience of you know how to winning and closing out series, it that's what's you know made them have a couple deep runs the last in the previous two years. So I I I wouldn't be shocked and I probably expect them to win the series and win these next two games.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah, I I I still think that I mean even when they were down 3-1, I I still I I'm I'm never counting out um Edmonton, especially against a inferior opponent. What did you guys think about I think it was game four? Um the the OT winner. That was clearly a goal.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I think so. I mean I just because I mean the puck would have had to have grown, it seems like an inch or two for it not to be for it to be on the line. Did you see that half? I did not see that, no. I'm gonna check it out right now. They called um and ice.

SPEAKER_01 28:12

I think that was the craziest part because the ref didn't even see it.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I pro yeah, I probably would have called it not a goal, but I I think I still think it gets overturned if they call it no goal on the ice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

But basically I don't know if it does. I I mean I do think that it was a goal. What I what's hard for me is the the picture of it makes it look like it was a goal.

SPEAKER_00 28:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

But I don't know what angle that camera is on, because if it's not directly above that red line, it could it could skew the angle to make it look like it was in when it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

So I heard a tough call. Holy shit. So yeah, so if you haven't seen the photo, they called that a goal on the ice. Who uh whose skate was it? Jari was a net for game four, right? They didn't make it so they didn't make a goalie change, but Jari's skate was over the puck in overtime, and they called it a goal on the ice and they kept it uh a good goal on the ice, so obviously Anaheim won and went up three games to one. Uh I so what I heard is if it's from the back angle, it's more uh it's less deceiving than if it was uh if it was in front of the net just because I don't know some scientific thing. So I that's what I guess I believe it to be a good goal, but yeah that's a good thing, Chris. Like there should be like they have a camera on the back of the net, they could easily have a camera on on the line. Yeah, I you've got to have some type of technology just because it's uh it'd be easier, and you probably could have told like if there even though the skate was covering it, if it if there was a camera on the line, you probably could have told if it was a goal or not a goal. Even though I think it was a goal, still it'd probably be easier to decipher moments like that.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Right.

SPEAKER_04 30:10

I I think whatever yeah, I think whatever it was called on the ice is good.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

But also that's why it's like crazy to me. Like if you if you watch the clip, the ref 100% never saw it across. Right. Um he o like they c I I think they only called it a goal because um because the Anaheim guys were saying that it was a goal, and and I think the refs were like, oh, okay, like we didn't see it, we'll call it a goal, which I I don't think they should have done. I think it should have been called no goal on the ice. And um I mean I'm fine with it being a goal um after review. I just think there's a little bit of a what if on if they called it no goal on the ice, would they have overturned it? And I think they really should have called it no goal on the ice.

SPEAKER_00 30:58

Yeah, I I get I get your point there, but also I was gonna say my last my last thing is if you're Emmonton, you had a you had a one goal lead with five minutes to five minutes left. That's Edmonton. Close it out, you know. That should have never won to overtime in the first place. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

But Combs played great too.

SPEAKER_00 31:17

Yeah, yeah, but uh I I still think I still like Emmonton and only giving up one goal, they can build off that for the rest of the series. And it is always crazy. Half asked asked you the question last week about their goaltender problems. It is crazy how every year they're like they're switching goaltenders, they're always giving up a ton of goals.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

I know, and they got rid of you know Skinner this year, um, who brought them to Cups back-to-back years, right? And traded for Jari, who they you know think is better. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

I didn't imagine if they had uh Wallstead, Chris.

SPEAKER_01 31:54

I didn't know that Yes, they could they they could have had him uh I think it was twenty the twentieth overall pick.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

So half um the same year the Red Wings took Sebastian Kosa, it was a two-goalie um draft. And so we took Kosa at whatever 16, whatever it was.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, and we had three first round picks that year, and we traded two of them to move up in the draft to pick Kosa when Wallstatt was available. And Wallstatt was viewed as the way as the best goalie in the draft.

SPEAKER_04 32:27

But as our man just thought he was hot shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:29

He he won with Kosa, which was weird to me just because he typically, you know, loves the Swedish guys, and then he went for the Canadian goalie, um, which was crazy, but yeah, beat but talk about the Edmington thing.

SPEAKER_00 32:43

But we'll bring up a former Red Wings GM, Hef. Oilers were uh uh had the pick and they traded they traded down and they gave uh Minnesota the pick and Minnesota who's now up three to two uh against uh Dallas and one went away from moving on the to the second round first time in a decade, they have Wallstead. Imagine if Edmonton had Wallstead, they would finally have a goalkeeper, and none of this would be an issue, and maybe they win one of these last two cups. Yeah, they're probably pull up by now.

SPEAKER_04 33:15

Like I said, like it's crazy because like I'm watching the Oilers game usually starts at like 10:30. So like I'm watching the game before that, and then I check up in the top right of the screen, and it's always like three minutes in, Edmonton goal, and then six minutes in Edmonton goal, and then what's electric hockey? They're fun at they're fun as hell to watch because everyone inch is so high scoring, and obviously they have McJesus. Um but uh dude Ingram and uh Jari, um yeah, their save percentages in pretty much every game was like mid-80s.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

Yeah, that's what you get from that is absolutely correct, and then the opposing goalie is in the 800s too, just because I would tend obviously as the best offense in the league. Who are they playing? Dol Dostoe? Uh yeah, they had to take him out ten minutes in because they they were down 3-0 early.

SPEAKER_03 34:04

Who's their backup?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Oh, guess guess who? Um uh Maben, our former co-host, said there's former uh Red Wing goes everywhere. Villy Husso came in.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Oh, that's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

He was part of the uh So we had Alex Lyon in that the other night and we had Villy Husso in that the other night.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Yeah, that's part of getting Gibson.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:24

Hey, at least they're in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Uh who, Anaheim?

SPEAKER_04 34:28

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Yeah, I mean Well, Husso. Oh, yeah. I mean, he he won't be playing again unless he unless uh Adolf Stall gets gets pulled. But um so do we all uh consensus Edmonton and seven?

SPEAKER_04 34:43

I know I I picked the ducks in the beginning and I'm just gonna stick with them.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

I just do you think they close out tonight at home?

SPEAKER_04 34:49

I'm not sure if it's gonna be six or seven. I just feel like the goaltender is gonna let him down again. That's just my prediction.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Fair enough. Do you think they found something with Ingram, Chris? I know it's one goal, one game.

SPEAKER_01 35:00

Uh I don't know. They they like doing that, just switching up goalies, see if they can get someone who's hot. I I just don't I just think when elimination is on the line, like I McDavid just plays better. I don't know. He's just so good. Yeah, he's the best player in the league.

SPEAKER_00 35:17

And and uh Drive style too might have found something, so I I I I would have a hard time believing Edmonton loses to Anaheim when Anaheim is in the playoffs for the first time. But that's that's what you get out of Joe Quinnville teams. They they play hard and they go down, they go down uh go down swinging.

SPEAKER_01 35:40

Yeah, I I said this a while ago. A lot of people, um a lot of my friends, I think B and you might have been one of them. Kind of flamed me for it, but I really think that we should have hired Q.

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Um I remember you said three years ago.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

Damon really was against it. I was too. You were too. Yeah. Um I I think I think maybe Applebacher was against it too. I know Foe was against it, Marcus Sheena, just just name blasting a bunch of people here. Uh they all were against us hiring Q. We should have hired Q. He's just such a good coach.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

He he's he's like uh the Urban Meyer of hockey. Hell of a coach.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Well, he he didn't kick a punter or kicker in the head at least.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Yeah, but he knew about the sexual abuse that was going on and did nothing about it. So you could say that's probably even worse. I'll say that that's my point. Hell of a coach, not a good human being. Um but so ducks and six, we got Edmonton and seven.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Yeah, Oilers and seven. Yeah. Almost I would almost say oilers and six, but technically it's not possible.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Do you want to put five dollars on this? On what? Who wins this series?

SPEAKER_01 37:01

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SPEAKER_03 37:14

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SPEAKER_01 37:16

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SPEAKER_00 37:19

Um Nosebleed narrative. 20% off if you type in the word nosebleed. Well said. $50 bonus bets. That was beautiful. Um moving on to the stars game? I I I would go on the let's go with the others. The others, yeah, the Vegas uh Mammoth series just because it's on the same side of the bracket. Um Chris, I know you were in bed last night, sound asleep because that game ended at 2.30 in the morning. Absolutely. In double overtime. Uh, but I I flipped I flipped that game on. I was back and forth between that and the Lakers series. Even though the Mammoth Lost and you said this last week, Chris, they're they're a better skinning team. I mean, I mean they were they were gliding, literally gliding. They weren't even skinning, they were gliding and getting to pucks faster uh than Vegas was last night. Uh they're two they were down 3-2 going into the third. They scored off uh they scored two goals in transition. Uh they kind of remind me of uh the Devils from two years ago when they were young and they were they would they needed to score in transition, it seemed like a grid skating team. Um But Vegas ended up they've won the last two games in overtime to take a 3-2 series lead. Uh and Vegas, I don't know if you saw half they scored uh a short-handed goal. They had uh was it Howden? Yeah, Howden scored. I I forget uh so they had a face-off in their uh in their offensive zone because I forget who lost the puck, and Eichel was right there. He missed on the breakaway, but it caused them to have a uh face-off in their zone. Um Vegas won the face-off. They got it to the corner. Vegas was starting to get it out, and then uh great defensive play by Howden to um basically won the puck battle and then got it out uh into the middle of the ice and scored a snipe. Uh it was it was a fantastic goal, a great, great way to end and a great game.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Um yeah, bad goal to let up, honestly. Yeah, it's a tough one. There wasn't much traffic and he wasn't like right on top of it or anything. I think he was closer to being like the top of the circle.

SPEAKER_00 39:46

I thought it was ironic too because obviously you don't want to lose um uh on a uh on a goal that you were you have were on the penalty or on the power play.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Yeah, short-handed goal.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

But it was uh ironic because Vegas uh got um was uh had the they got a penalty in the offensive zone and then they ended up winning uh in that zone off that penalty kill. Yeah, and they and it's brutal. They still ended up winning. But uh yeah, tough way for the mammoth to lose because uh they came back after being down three to two um in in the in the third period, can't uh come all the way back, get the lead, and then Vegas uh uh Dor uh Dorfiev, who was cold, I think that had not scored a goal, Chris, ended up getting a hat trick to force overtime. Uh pure goal scorer.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Is it Pavel? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

Yeah, Pavel Dorfiev. Just it's when they when they come, they come bunches, Chris.

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Oh yeah, yeah. He he scored a lot in the regular season. Um not not not very good on the defensive side, but uh he he's a goal scorer. He's the type of guy you want in a shootout. Probably why part of why um Vegas was able to, you know, win a quite a quite a bit in overtime, I think, this year. Right. I think he definitely was was helpful in that. I mean, I I think Vegas is like I said, I think they're you know, the more physical team, the Mammoth is the faster team. Vegas has a lot more experience. That's why I took Vegas. I still think Vegas is is gonna pull that out off.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

Yeah, I'm I'm probably leaning Vegas and seven. I because I want I'm like you said, just I just we just want more hockey. So I'm here for all the game sevens. Uh I I do think their physicality probably does win them the series. They just have to win one more game. Uh, but I mean the mammoth, I we were talking about it off air. It's crazy. I mean, they just looked you know so good and they're they're a young team, so maybe why that's why they didn't win that that much in the regular season. But I was like, how do they only have 90 whatever points in in the Western Conference, which is which is the week of conference?

SPEAKER_01 42:08

Yeah, I mean I think it's only up from here for the Mammoth. Uh great place to live in Utah where they're at. They have un I don't know if you've seen their new practice facilities that that uh they're oh I forget their owner's name, built uh state of the art facilities. Um they're really, really investing in that team and culture. It's it's nice to see them over uh the what they were doing in Arizona.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

Yeah, speaking of their owner, their um owner, great name, Marion, Ryan Smith. Good name, great name, yeah. Uh what does he own? I don't know what he does. He's like equity or something. Late 30s, early 40s. Yeah, he's really young. Half young guy, super chill dude. He's always hanging out, uh hanging out with the fans. I can't I think it was one of the games in Vegas, maybe it was in Utah. He was just roaming the streets. The fans were like saying what's up. He's you know, talking to fans. Really cool dude, and he's invested a lot. And uh I yeah, it's it's crazy, uh, Chris, when you're actually in a you know, state in a city that cares about hockey, what it can do for your franchise. And uh they got they got most of that talent when they were in Arizona, and now they're they're starting to put it together. But yeah, I think Vegas' experience and their physicality will just because Utah's had the opportunity to uh and Utah was down three nothing uh in in game four and they forced overtime. Uh, but Vegas ultimately has y come out the last two games, so I th I think that carries over in game six and if not in game seven. What are your what did your vibes brackets say?

SPEAKER_04 43:54

Um yeah, like like I said, I had the mammoth. I have the mammoth and the um

SPEAKER_00 44:00

They're playing with great vibes. Um I I wouldn't be shocked if they came back.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

I I think whoever wins that series will beat the Oilers or Ducks, just based off what I've watched so far. I feel like that series has been my favorite series to watch. The mamm and it's a great jersey jersey matchup too. Like the gold and the black and the white and the light blue, like beautiful jersey match.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

Yeah, those their white unis from the mammoth are they're really good.

SPEAKER_01 44:26

Yeah, they got good unis. Way better than Anaheim's orange jerseys.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Have you seen Hef? We didn't talk about this last week what the Mammoth have done with their uh Zamboni.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

I was just about to bring that up, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

Great minds. Have you seen it, Hef? No. What do they call Chris? You can explain this one.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

So basically, I I think it was like some company or fans or something. Um, they took the Zamboni from um, I believe it was the Salt Lake City uh when the Olympics were in Salt Lake City, the Zamboni that they used um for the Olympics, they um they they reshaped it a little bit, and they uh I'm gonna pull up a picture um for you, half. Um and they What do they call it? The Mamboni or something like that? They reshaped the Zamboni? Yes, yes. I think I don't know what they're is that what they call it? The man the Mamboni? Oh no, no, no. They call it the Zamoth. The Zamoth. The Zamoth. Thank you. It's sick. This is the Zamboni.

SPEAKER_04 45:31

Oh, wow. That is cool. I'm surprised you haven't seen that on your Twitter feed. How have teams not like why do other teams not do that?

SPEAKER_01 45:39

A couple teams have something kind of like that. I think um I think the sharks have like a little like kind of shark coming out of it. Um but you're right, yeah. Every team should have something sick like that.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Like, yeah, imagine the Red Wings. They have the octopus on there.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Yeah, that'd be dope. I'm I'm saying this now, by the way, but the mammoth are my Western Conference team.

SPEAKER_00 46:02

Oh, that so you're you're adopting the mammoth as your team?

SPEAKER_01 46:06

That's my team. So your your teams are both down 3-2 in the first round. They're both wild card teams. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

I think you're just talking about for the future, right?

SPEAKER_04 46:17

I was talking for the future of the team.

SPEAKER_00 46:18

Oh, you're talking about the future. Mammoth.

SPEAKER_04 46:20

Mammoth. They're fun to watch, and you know, they got like the brand new team, so I feel like I could hop on easily.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

It's not too much, yeah, not too much of a bandwagon, even though they existed previously, but the mammoth obviously are technically not an expansion team. New or a new organization.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

Dope logo, dope Zamboni, or what's it called? Zamoth or Zamuth. The Zamoth. The Zameth. Yeah. Yeah, sick.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

We gotta get half on the Zamoth.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

We gotta get them on the Zamoth, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Teams in Utah are just cool too.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

I mean, I think teams in Utah are beautiful area, great, yeah, great facilities. Ryan Smith is doing a really, really good job over there.

SPEAKER_00 47:00

Awesome to chill dude, too.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Yeah, yeah. I looked it up. He he founded uh, I don't know how to say this, like Qualtrics or something. It's like that survey, you know, like survey software.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Oh, sure. Sure. Sometimes that's just all it takes. Yeah. You can own an NHL team.

SPEAKER_01 47:17

And an NBA team, right? Doesn't he own uh an NBA team? I'm not sure. I thought he owned the Jazz as well.

SPEAKER_00 47:23

He might. I'm I've I fuck if I know. But um, so we we both got Vegas. You taught us a year early, we agree on that, right, Chris? Vegas, yeah. And you got the Xameth. And you got the Zamoth in six and or in seven, right? Yep. Alright. Uh well, moving on to uh probably the best series, Chris, if not one of the best, in the Dallas Stars and Minnesota Wild. The Wild won game five to take a huge 3-2 series lead and have a chance to close it out in at in their home ice, Chris. I I think it's gonna be hard just because obviously they have a great team and they had probably the best acquisition at the deadline with getting uh Quinn Hughes. But I I still think it's gonna be tough for them just because they haven't uh they haven't won a series yet, uh even though they're co going back to their place tonight uh for game six. Uh how do you think that series wraps up?

SPEAKER_01 48:27

Yeah, well, I mean, first of all, it's crazy to me that the Wild have never won a Stanley Cup for such a hockey I'm pretty sure they've never won a Stanley Cup for such a hockey state. Um and they have such great fans. Um and they're I mean, I think I'm pretty sure that's the biggest sport in the state of Minnesota. Um I think this has been kind of what we thought it was gonna be, a really close, great series. Um a couple a couple of blowout games. Um I I I'm staying with what I've been doing this whole time, which is just staying with my predictions before this all started. And I still have I still think Dallas gets it done, even though I think the Wild are better. Um But if if I I I think the Wild could close it out in game six, that would not surprise me at all. I just think if it goes to game seven, I think Dallas will win. Um I agree with that. I kind of want the Wild to win. Uh just because I I I do really they're a fun team. They're a fun team, they deserve um some success, and I like a lot of their players. Um I mean, I I think it's crazy how good Teresenko has been for them after he was just absolutely awful for the wings, Wallstead, you know, we could have him, Quinn Hughes. It's almost like it's like the team, the wings could have this team, but we decided not to. And then I we not to get too much into this, but Buchnavsk Buchnavskov, Dmitry. Um I think that he is the next Kirill Kaprizov, and the wings got rid of him as well.

SPEAKER_00 50:16

So uh yeah, I mean that's just the way it goes sometimes, unfortunately. I do think I think it's either Minnesota and six they win tonight and won the series, or uh Dallas. If Dallas gets it back to same page uh game seven in Dallas, I think they close it out. Um I just for the for a team that hasn't closed it out, I think it's probably their in their best bet to win on home ice. If if it goes back to Dallas, a team that's had playoff success. They haven't been to a cup in a while, but they've gone to a couple of conference finals. I think uh it'd be tough to win in in a game in a do-or-die on the road.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Yeah, yeah, I agree. Plus, uh, I mean we talked about this last time, but Dallas's coach Pete De Boer is uh like 7-0 or something. Or eight and oh, nine and oh game sevens. And uh I I don't think that that is gonna change. Plus Ottinger is so good. Having him in a game seven, he can steal you a game. They've so great veterans, great young guys. Um I I mean, I feel like every team we talk about, I bring up a player that I think should be on the Red Wings next year. And in this one for Dallas, it's uh Robertson. It's Robo, yeah. Uh I I love seeing the pictures of Robo in the little Caesars uniform in Detroit growing up.

SPEAKER_00 51:42

Did you ever play against him?

SPEAKER_01 51:44

Uh I doubt it. I doubt it. I don't know. How old is he?

SPEAKER_00 51:48

He's our age, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 51:49

I'll have to look up what teams he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

He was on one of the little Caesars teams, I know that. Uh have Footie got closing out the series.

SPEAKER_04 51:56

Uh this is the one this is probably the one I'm gonna change. I think I had the stars, and I'm gonna go with the wild.

SPEAKER_00 52:01

You think they close it out tonight?

SPEAKER_04 52:02

I think they close it out tonight, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:04

Alright. Um yeah, I like I said, I just they better close it out tonight because if not, I I don't see them winning the series. But I I mean I hope they do. For a team that's been in the playoffs year in and year out consistently, they haven't won, they haven't made it past the first run in a decade. So I I do hope they get over that hump because they are a fun team to watch. So he played uh as a 98, so I never played Robo. Oh, were you 99? Yeah. I that's another thing too, I've just found out, Chris. You play with the year the year you were born in. So if you were born in December 98, you're going against guys that play that were born in January and early, like throughout that year. So like you're not like you're not even though like your grade, like you could be playing, you know, you're obviously matched up with you know, guys that are were born in like in n 99. Like if you were born late in 98, your most of your class was born in early 99. That's not how it is in hockey.

SPEAKER_01 53:10

Yeah, there there's still I think some exceptions to that. Um But yeah, yeah, you play you play with uh that is you play with your birth year and you're uh they like set a date and then like as you're going you you know they play like it's like under 15, under 16, under 17, under 18 teams. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

I mean it makes a little odd, but it it makes logical sense, I guess. But uh the really good players uh most of the time will play up. I'll play up, yeah, sure. Yeah. Um I played in I played my age group. Oh yeah. Um so I think that's it for anything else to add, NHL playoffs. Uh I think that's it for for Puck. Better moving on. Uh just like the NHL Hefe NBA, six of their eight series uh have gone to a game six.

SPEAKER_01 54:04

Uh which is awesome, because usually in my experience, not to hit on the NBA right away, but I will. Uh usually it's just blowout four four zero five four one, you know. There's not much parody in that league typically. Um it's gotten a lot better since you could uh since the the second apron. Yeah, the second apron was good. I will say it's still really bad in terms of like that the bad teams in the NBA are like awful. Did you hear about the new tanking? Uh did that pass?

SPEAKER_04 54:35

I think it's I think it it's going to. I think it's going to yeah. I mean for the bottom three teams have worse odds to get a top three top the top pick than teams four through four through ten.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

Yeah, I don't I honestly don't love that rule. And then they also made it so like you can't get it basically you're I think if you're bad you should get a good pick, but I think that like you should have to play your players.

SPEAKER_04 55:01

See the problem the problem with basketball is like one player, like one player can change your franchise. Like in hockey, you know, like you don't need to tank because like one player is not gonna like you're not going to make the playoffs just from one player, I feel like. And yeah, the NBA, like if you get Wembin Yama. If you get like Wembin Yama, like you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

I mean they're still gonna play close rookie year, but yeah. Yeah, that's true. But he was also hurt, I think, for a little bit. You still need more than just one player, I think, the NBA.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

But it's like it's more incentivized to tank though, because there's only five people on the court at once. Right. Yeah, right. And like it's more important, I agree. And more p like, and like obviously that player's playing 40 minutes, like they're gonna like give the ball to him every single possession. You know, so it's it's pretty important, and I I think it's a great rule. I love it. I love the tank. I love it. Really? I love it. A lot of people hate it though, because I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

And you can't win the lottery in consecutive years, which that I like that. Like I'm good with that. The baseball does something similar where top top market teams can't be in the top ten in consecutive years. Um so that it's very similar to what this is. And then uh teams 11 through so it used to only be uh 14 teams in the lottery, now it's teams eleven through sixteen also have a chance. Yeah, like the plan losers. Yeah, the plan losers.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

Uh and they need to get rid of that playing crap. I hate the plan. I agree.

SPEAKER_00 56:28

Well, so that so that will also try to play 82 games.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

You don't need a plane.

SPEAKER_00 56:32

So that so that tried that was also a thing for tanking too, Chris, because it wanted they wanted more teams to compete.

SPEAKER_01 56:39

I know, but I think what that what it did was it did make I think it worked in terms of having more like teams like in the middle like try bad try more. But I think it made it so the bad teams got even worse.

SPEAKER_00 56:55

Well, yeah, ex this year was the prime example of once the Western and Eastern Conference teams had the top ten um had the top ten make the playoffs or play in, everyone else was tanking.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

So two-thirds of the league shouldn't I think even in the NHL it's a little like it's kind of crazy that ha like half the teams make it. I I don't think two-thirds of the team uh teams in the league should make the second season.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

That's my also my biggest worry with the new lottery system if that take comes into place. I feel like these some of these playing teams might just tank. Because like if you tank and miss the playoffs, you're gonna have the same exact odds as a team that's like freaking fourth. Yeah, that'll happen. So like yeah, that that's the one thing I hate, but I it'll overall it'll make more teams not tank. Overall, I think.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

Sure, and and so right, and when you have and if you win it, you know you can't win it the next year, so you're not gonna be tanking as much. I really like that part. And the top four the bottom four teams uh are or excuse me, is it the bottom three teams are gonna try and get to the fourth through tenth. Yeah. So they're gonna try and win a couple more games, even though That's great. They're even though you're probably you know you're gonna be losing a lot, you're gonna you're not gonna be throwing like we saw with Memphis and Utah this year when they played full G-League lineups and Pacers Day. Exactly. And the Pacers were just in the finals. Yeah, Pacers was published it was it was a little more dramatic. Like you're not gonna see that a lot for year over year.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

I mean, to your point though, that just shows how important one player can be on a team. Halliburton gets don't tell that to our good friend Maben. Don't say, oh, don't say one friend, Mabin.

SPEAKER_00 58:42

Don't tell him that how important Halliburton is to the franchise.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

Dude, last year's NBA playoffs was gener a generational hate run for Mabin because he just kept talking about how Halliburton's not that good and he hit a butt. He hit a buzzer beater every single round in the playoffs. So clutch. It was so sick. It was unbelievable. Maven like didn't know what to say.

SPEAKER_00 59:04

Mabin was at a lost forwards, but now Mabin has moved moved on to WemB. Now he hates Wembee.

SPEAKER_01 59:10

Oh, he hates Wembi. Oh, okay. Yeah, this guy knows Bali.

SPEAKER_00 59:15

Well, we should well think it Maven out. Well, maybe we should just ask weekly quotes from Mabin on Wemby and Halley and would just say it to the pod.

SPEAKER_01 59:23

I'd love that to be a segment.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

Uh but uh it's like pasters, that's not gonna happen year over year. And and they knew they you know weren't they weren't going to obviously make a deep run without Halley. And um they did make a trade uh for for next year's team, giving Zubak uh getting Ivaka Zubak. And uh obviously Miles Turner did uh Zubak? Yeah they obviously did get rid of Miles Turner, but uh most most of those guys, if they had like a little injury, they were missing a couple weeks at a time. If they were in the NBA B. Yeah, but but it exactly. Like if you were if you weren't winning, that like the Jazz did that, everyone did that. Uh Grizzlies did that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:08

Um the Wizards.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:11

The Wizards, yeah. Like Trey, Trey Young and and uh they traded for Trey Young and Anthony Davis, but they never played together.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

Yeah, they didn't play him. Well, they were did were do they still have Jordan Poole?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:22

No, uh no, he went to New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, but they're awful team.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:28

Pelicans are so stupid.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

But that but that leads me to obviously we had a horrible regular probably the worst I can remember, Hef, in terms of uh competition, and like we saw so many wit winning streaks in the last couple months. It's because the teams that were trying to lose would give the good teams in the that are been in the playoffs and made the play-in, they it would be a free win because they weren't trying to win.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:56

Uh exactly like the Pistons, right? Like they shouldn't probably not be a number one seed.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:02

Traditionally no, and obviously injury like Tatum not uh being out for most of the year helped. Yeah, true. Uh Halburn uh obviously being out for the whole year helped. And Pistons, right, like they you know tried in the regular season, and now we're starting to see uh in in the playoffs that it's obviously a lot harder. But it's made, even though we had a horrible regular season, and obviously this is what the league hoped. Obviously, they changed tanking and they were hoping that they would get a fantastic playoffs, and so far it has been a very good playoffs. Only two teams in one, and those are uh the top two teams overall in the league. OKC, who hasn't lost the first round series in three years since they've been the one seed. They lost a game in the first round, even yeah, they they've swept the last three years they've been the number one seed, they've swept the first round every year, and then San Antonio, uh, who lost without Wemby in game two, ended up winning in five games over the Blazers. Every other game has been uh six games so far.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:04

Speaking of the Pistons, I think that's who we should lead off with for these NBA. Let's get into it. Because I feel like the Pistons. Yeah, fuck the Knicks. Um I feel like the Pistons really do have a chance to come back in this series.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:22

Yeah, I I they're not the betting favorites, but they're only according to DraftKings, they're plus 120.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:29

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SPEAKER_04 1:02:49

But uh, bean, let's get into this Pistons magic series. Um Pistons were down 3-1. Um people were freaking out. I was freaking out. I got a good night's rest after game five. Yeah, or after game four.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:04

Franz Wagner being out has changed this series completely.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:07

Franz Wagner being out makes Cade. Nobody on the Magic team outside of Franz Wagner can even touch Cade. Cade was just doing whatever he wanted in game five. 45 points, five he had 45, 5, and 4 shot like 13 from 23 from the field. I mean, he was getting five of eight from three. Five of eight from three. Made all of his free throws too. I'd love to see that. 14 for 14, I think. That's a part of the reason we won that game because Paulo Banquero, right, the counterpart against Cade, 45 points, like 9 and 7, but he went five for 12 from the free throw line. So I don't get how you make all those guarded threes and then miss your free throws, but um it's a fatigue thing. Yeah. For sure. But um I think the Pistons are gonna come back and win this series. I feel like Duren played his best game of the series in game five, although it still wasn't peak Durin. No. It was half of what Duren should be. Um, but I think he has a chance to prove himself in game six. He attacked uh Wendell Carter a lot more than I noticed.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:13

Yeah, seven quick points to start off the game, which is a great sign.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:16

Yeah, and a lot six offensive rebounds for Jalen Duran, too, which um him and a Saar were great on the boards. Yeah, he Assared.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:23

What about game five though? Like, what do you guys think about that? Very low scoring.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:28

You mean game four?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:29

Or sorry, yeah, yeah. Game four. Very, very low scoring. Um the Pistons didn't score, I think, for what's five and a half.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

And they did a very similar thing in game three where they they they were down 15 in the f in that fourth quarter, and then they took a a brief lead. Cade uh made a free throw to put him up one, and then they didn't score the rest of the game. They didn't make uh they didn't they made uh one field goal in game four and like when they were down by eight, and that was their only field goal in the last 530 when it when the game was tied. So I I think that's where game six it's gonna come down to. I think it's gonna be closer, and Cade did a good job uh yesterday of closing it out. It got a little tight at the end. It was a one-possession game before he hit that jumper over Desmond Bain. Um, I liked what I saw from the role players uh yesterday. I uh it's gonna come down to them playing well, and Tobias Harris is also questionable for tomorrow. If uh I would say I like their chances even more if he plays, and I don't think Ben Carroll is gonna score 45 again, but Cade probably won't score that much, although I do think he will have a good game. Uh, he had a good bounce back fourth quarter, he's been great for most of the fourth quarters except game four. It's gonna come down to I think the role players in Orlando.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:50

I think that's a great point, Bean. Um speaking of the magic last game, seventeen of thirty eight from three, they were making pretty much everything that was getting tossed up. And they've been so hot shooting, they can't keep that going. Yeah, they can't. They're not a good three-point shooting team. Desmond Bain is like a career 40% three-point shooter. He's a good shooter. Palo Bancaro is not going to keep that up. He played Superman when Franz Wagner was out, and we won the Palo Bancaro go-off game. Which means I feel like regression is going to happen for the magic in game six. And the Pistons are due to win a game in Orlando. I think that those are two things that I think are going to happen. I just feel like Kate is going to continue to dominate with Franz being out game six. And like being said, the role players are going to play a massive role. And Tobias Harris, hopefully he's okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

How important is Tobias, do you guys think?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

I think he is he's been I mean he's been scoring 20 points. You think he's what? I think he's important. He's been scoring 20 points for the majority of the series. So they're there and he's been that second scorer. He hasn't been gun from three, uh, but he had a good game yesterday, and he did get hurt yesterday and played on that ankle that he sprained. So I I think he'll be good. Good to go tomorrow. Uh, but I I think with I don't think Franz Wagner's coming back.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:12

So you just won't be he won't be there in game six. That was already announced.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

Yeah, he's already out for game six. I would and I think even if I would be shocked if he came back for game seven if they get it back.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:22

And if they do, he'll probably be kind of hobbling out there and uh won't be the same defender that he's been on on Cade. Um yeah, I mean I I think the the Pistons are absolutely gonna win the series. Yeah, I don't think that they really um deserve to win the series, but I think they will win. I think they will win the series. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:46

I yeah, I d I agree where they haven't played their best ball. Uh but if you get it back to uh game seven in Detroit, I think you you have it wrapped up. Easy dub. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:58

Yeah, the the first quarter of game five was we scored like 38 points. That was the second quarter all series. We scored over 30, which is insane. Um but I think we're getting back to Pistons basketball. We played I think we played pretty solid defense, like for the most part. They just were making very tough shots. And the players that were not players that don't typically make shots were making the shots. But the Pistons countered, and every time you know they hit a big shot, Cade would just pull up with the mid-range step back and just make it every single time. So um I think and also to your point, yeah, Tobias is very important. I think he's like the only other player outside of Cade that can create his own shot. I think everyone else like relies on Cade, or pretty much relies on Cade to get them the ball, like or get him an open shot. So I think Tobias is important when Cade's not on the floor. Uh but Asar is the second most important player on this team for right now. Like his effort defensively.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:53

Yeah, he fills the statue. He only had six points, buddy at 16, 15, 5 assists, I think. He's like a Draymond kind of. Five steals, two blocks. Yeah, yeah, he is good comparison. Um if he he if he could just develop a mid-range game, I'm not even seeing a three-point. If he could just develop his shot a little bit better, and he's ball handling is getting better for sure. I that's another guy that can handle the ball and take pressure off Cade. And we saw him do a little bit, but not consistently. Uh, I think that'll take pressure off Cade a little bit in the future. But yeah, Cade was was on one and he he saw obviously Franz Wagner, he was hunting the Desmond Bain matchup, he had 11 points on him, including the game uh not the game-winning shot, but the one that kind of sealed that stealed it for sure. So I I think if uh the role players like Duncan, who has been shaky, but if he's making his shots, if Dern gives him a double-double and Javante Green's making his open threes, and Stu has been very good the last couple games, if they show up tomorrow and you know have have like they didn't trail for a second yesterday. So if they put that pressure on Orlando in game six, I think they'll be able to close out that game and and they get it back to Detroit. I think it's a wrap.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

I agree. I we need Duncan to make his shots because he's such a liability defensively. If he's not making shots, then he can't be on the floor. That's a huge, huge problem. Um I think Jenkins, too, if he isn't making his shots, he shouldn't be on the floor, and he hasn't been playing very well, in my opinion. Um and you know who I'd like to see? I I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on this. Let me guess.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:41

Marcus Sasser. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:43

Oh no.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:44

B-ball Paul.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

B-ball? I'd love to see some more Paul Reed out there.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:49

I mean, I just don't think you're gonna get it because unfortunately, I don't know. No, we're not. I I do love B-ball Paul, uh, but I Stu and Duren. Like Durin's our was our second best player. He was an all-star. We're not we're not gonna bench him for B-ball, and unless someone gets in foul trouble. And Stu, uh, we we've seen what Stu has been able to do the last two coup couple games. I thought it's been a little bit of a head head scratcher, even though he's young, the benching of Ron Holland the last three games. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna be coming in in in game six. Um that would be that would be the one guy I'd like to see, but I just still you're playing 10-11 guys, so they are playing a lot of their benches deep. I I do like what Kiris LeVert has been playing hard. He hasn't scored a lot, but if if if the uh if the effort's there tomorrow, I I do I it would be hard for Orlando to win tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a beef stew fight. Like just just start the game off, you know, drop the proverbial gloves and the crap out of uh whatever that guy is, Bancaro or Palo Bancaro? Yeah, that guy. He I mean if we started the game, if we started the game, I mean, do we really need beef stew that bad? And beef stew just like beat the crap out of him, like that would be awesome. Take him out of the series. Yeah, I mean I mean like hurt him, like take him out of the series.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:16

Palo's more valuable than beef stew is for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:19

So why is he not taking him out of the series? I don't understand why like we should have done this from game one, get the suspension over with for next series, you know what I mean? Now it's almost too late because we yeah, I mean, maybe we save it, I don't know, but uh for next series, because obviously we're gonna want him to hurt harden if we play, you know, the Cavs, but we we need it, we need him fighting more. I I don't know why they haven't gotten in. I haven't seen any fights.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

If you couldn't tell Chris was the hockey guy, that that's Timmy right there.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:51

I think if you're you just gotta be smart about it, like you know, like act like you're not doing it. No, but don't like do it while the whistle's going, you know what I mean? Like and and have him looking at you face to face, man to man, punch him right in the face, and then just you know, keep going at it.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:09

Well, unfortunately, that might take him out for that series. That's fine, Apollo, but Stu is not playing the rest of the postseason if that happens. I can tell you that right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

So what I'm hearing is you think we should save that for the finals, like Wemby or like SGA, you know. Oh yeah. Yes, yeah. That that's your method. You gotta have some strategy, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:33

Yeah, like I said, if you couldn't tell Chris was the hockey guy, that that uh that right there proves it. Um any last obviously we all got pistons in seven. Yeah, absolutely. Me and Hef were wearing our Pistons hats right now. Um no, like I said, uh Hef, I feel confident after after they obviously won last night, and then Franz being out for game six, that's been confirmed. Uh even if he does play game seven, if they get it back to Detroit, he's gonna be a shell of himself, like Chris alluded to earlier. Um I I would be I would be stunned if Orlando won in Detroit in game seven if they don't close it out tomorrow. And one thing is too, I I think the pressure's back in Orlando. Like they don't want it to go back to Detroit in for a game seven. I I and they've been good at at home too, so um that the pressure is gonna be on them and for the role players to step up. And it's gonna be hard for them to make 17 threes again. I I just don't see it. It's not gonna happen again.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:36

That's that's why the Pistons should win this game, should win their first game in Orlando. Yeah. And um I I saw this um from uh a magic someone some guy from uh he tweets about the magic. He said this is the first game at the Kia Center where they can win an elimination game in the playoffs. That's like including the Dwight Howard magic ears.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:04

Which is kind of wild to think about. So it's probably gonna be rocking.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:07

Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:07

But um, like I said, Pistons and seven.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

Yeah, I I would feel a little bit different, but No Franz is huge, and we saw that uh yesterday. Yep. Um all right, moving on. Uh you think the the Knicks are up 19, you think that series is a rap FO?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:26

Yeah, that's frustrating for sure. Um but the Knicks are prone to losing um when they have a big lead. Yeah, they did that last year. Yeah, and they did that this year too, and I think game two. That was game two. Yeah, uh, 14.8 minutes left when they lost.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:42

They're up big right now here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

A lot of time left. That's that's the thing about basketball. Like, a lead, like that big of a lead, like, isn't so insurmountable like anymore because there's so many, so many great players on the court.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:54

But I am gonna say, like, it's looking like the Knicks are gonna win this game. Yeah, they found something with Kat. I mean, Cat is pro uh proven why he's the most important player on the Knicks. I one being you stole the words right out of my mouth. And when he plays like it, the Knicks, the Knicks win. I mean, as simple as that. They're the better team because you know Brunson's gonna do what he does, and the role players play a little bit better once when Kat is um dominant, and they're they always play well on defense no matter how bad their offense is. And um they've proven that the last two games to come back from 2-1 and they're right now it's Chris just said they're up 19 in the first. Uh they're locking them down defensively.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:34

So make that 25.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:36

That's 25 now? 20 to 15. Yeah. Oh my god. So that series is a wrap. I'm gonna you heard it, you heard it here first. No spleed narrative has uh officially pronounced the Hawks dead. That's crazy. But being yeah, I almost breaking news.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:52

I 100% agree. The Knicks will go as far as Carl Anthony Towns takes them. And like, there's been two, like, the reason I picked the Hawks 2-7 is because I assume the Knicks would fold like they do every single year. Their coaching seems to always let them down. Obviously, they fired their head coach last year. Now they have Mike Brown. No, they got him.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:12

They fired him, got Mike Brown. There's uh there's rumors that even if they make the finals, that Mike Brown might be fired.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:19

Yeah, because obviously the Knicks traded five first round picks for Mikhail Bridges, who also had zero points in game four, which is crazy to think about. Worst trade, maybe. It's not the worst trade ever. The SGA trade is a million times worse.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:31

But what about the Bain one?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:34

Well, we gotta see. I got like, I mean, for parts of the series, Bain's look like the best player, but like he's look good. I don't I I think it was only three or first round picks or four for that. But like McAlb, I think Bain's better than McCal Bridges. So but uh yeah, the Knicks are win now mode, like absolutely. Like MSG, they they want a champion. And you know, I think talent-wise, they should have swept the Hawks, but I assumed the Knicks were just gonna do Knicks things and somehow fold and lose the series, which I guess I was wrong, but the Hawks still got two games, and you know, the first round you want to get it out, you want to get out as soon as you can because you know, even if you win in game seven, fatigue's still gonna kick in for teams like that maybe don't have as much as long enough series, but yeah, that don't have look the Knicks don't have that great of a depth, so playing more games does hurt them.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:26

But yeah, I just got an update 23 to 2 run in the quarter for the Knicks. Good for them. Yeah. Um, but that was the thing, like the Knicks, they had they're a better team, but they do stupid shit like they did in games two and three. And like uh Bridges, who had that awful game three, and and Josh Hart, they were didn't have that good of a year good of a year in the regular season. Um, and that's why Mike Brown was you know is under the the hot seat, but uh you know, cat put his big boy pants on, you know, played like the best player in the series, and and that's what happens. Um, you know, the last three games the the Knicks completely took over the series.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:10

Yeah, he's playing a lot more aggressive. Like that's what I've realized. That's what you know, everyone like I know Shaq has been screaming that like Cat just being freaking aggressive, like your freaking seven.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:19

It's been a thing, even going back to Minnesota his whole career. It's been like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:24

Yeah, he just like wants to be the next Steph Curry, but um obviously that's not gonna happen. But I do believe that he is one of the better big man shooters ever. And I also believe that he could be a lot better in the paint, which you know he was doing um this series, which was if you're a Knicks fan, you should be hopeful. Assuming you get the Celtics.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:46

Yeah, um, yeah. We can go to that series next. Yeah, I would assume it's the Celtics, but I mean I uh what a game by MB. Yeah, and beat coming back. That's great from the appendix. Uh I I hope I hope I would love to see game seven. Uh I would love to see Philly force a game seven. Uh, but for the Celtics, it's all about if they can make their shots. Because the two the two games they didn't make their sh their three-pointers, they lose, and that's how it was last year against the Knicks, and that's what it's gonna next series is gonna come down to as well, if they play New York. Uh if they can close out Philly. But if it would be it would be hard to imagine if Philly or if New Uh Boston can't hit their uh three-pointers for three games in a row. Uh but they're gonna they're probably gonna need a maxi and beat to go off in these next two games in order for them to win.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

Yeah, I'm pr you know, seeing Joel on beat out there is awesome to see because like, you know, obviously some say he's made of glass, which kind of is it's a it's a true statement. Yeah, he he just gets hurt a lot, hurt a lot, and obviously, you know, his potential like before those injuries was to the roof. He was won an MVP. Great, great player. Um, they're talented. This is why I didn't want this is the team I didn't want the Pistons to play, because they have high-end talent with Maxie and Bede when he came back.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:11

Edge Combs may have a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:13

Edge Combs had a great year for his for being a rookie year. Paul George actually, I thought he played great in game five. He was great defending Jalen Brown, in my opinion. He still had his points, but you know, he made him work for it, which was really nice to see. Um the 76ers are just so inconsistent. Like they either look like the best team in the NBA or the worst team in the NBA. So it's like such a wild disparity. I do hope they force a game seven, and I do hope they win that series because you know, Boston, like the Celtics are like the only Boston team I really just don't like. Um yeah, but they are live and die by the three. So you like the Red Sox? Oh, I I guess I don't really care for the Red Sox. I was more so like the Patriots and um The Patriots are his boys.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:59

The Patriots.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:59

Yeah, yeah, I get the Patriots, but the Red Sox.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:01

And the Bruins.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:04

I dislike the Bruins.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:07

That's probably the Boston team you hate the most, right, Chris? The Bruins?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:11

Uh probably talking about hockey teams?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:15

Yeah. No, we're talking about talking specifically about specifically. Oh, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought I I thought you were talking about NHL teams.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:21

No, no, no, no. Yeah, I hate the Bruins. I hate the Red Sox. Hate the Red Sox.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:28

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:30

2013, still scarred from it, right, Chris? Absolutely. David Ortiz. Uh but oh shit. I think uh I I just I could see for like Maxie and Embiid. Nick's up 30. That's insane. They're gonna be up 60 by the time we end this. Uh but I could see them going off and to enforce in the game seven tonight, but I just can't see Boston shooting poorly three games in a row. Agreed. I think Boston's gonna win.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:01

Tonight? Tonight. I think they're gonna win a night. I hope they don't win tonight, but I you know, Boston It just I just can't see them, I just can't see them losing. I just can't see them losing back-to-back games. That's I think that's what it is. I see it's hard to meet it's hard for me to picture Boston shooting that bad two games in a row. It's hard for me to picture the Sixers playing two great games in a row. Correct. So that's two things going against them.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:24

I would say they would Max C and M B would have to score 70 plus combined in each game. Yeah. And probably have near triple doubles. That's how good they I think they would have to be.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:37

It's possible though.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:38

MB is just I could see him like I could see him winning the night, but I I agree with you, Hef. I I think Boston wraps it up tonight. And uh, another thing too, Celtics are better on the road under Missoula in the playoffs than at home.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:51

Oh wow, that's an interesting stat.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:53

Yeah, I don't know the exact records, but they fucked around with Atlanta. I think it was his first year. Um they w when the Hawks were in the plane every year, and they won in they won in six. Uh I think it might have been uh the 20 or no, I think it was Missoula's first year in 23. But uh Yeah, like last year um they lost uh they blew those 20-point uh leads against the Knicks uh last year, and then uh when they won it in twenty-four, they lost a couple games at home. So um I I do think they win uh to tonight on the road against Philly. I I do as well. What about you, Chris? What uh what's who do you got winning tonight?

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

Can't bet against playoff P. Can't bet against playoff P. Definitely have the Sixers bringing it to game seven. Um and then I I think the Celtics uh winning game seven, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:51

So we all have Celtics, but but uh Chris has the Celtics and seven, and we have Celtics and six. Yeah, the Celtics wrapping it up tonight. Great. Um alright, the last game uh series in the East, yeah. Um we have the Raptors and and the Cavs. Uh ever uh everything changed last night when Ingram they kind of were holding it off, they were playing well. They did score 72 points in the first half, Chris uh Hefa. But once Ingram didn't come back, they did not look like the same offensive team they did in the first half.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:30

Yeah, the Raptors are a weird team to me. Um I think the Cavs are playing down to the Raptors right now. But like that. But that's what the Cavs do in the past. That's exactly what they do. They got two playoff chokers and Donovan Mitchell and James Harden. Um but yeah, the Cavs should have they should have won this series in four to five games. Give give Scotty Barnes one game for dominating. Sure, give him games.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:56

I will disagree with Well, I'll counter with you, half, because you can't have it both ways. You can't say Spider is a choker and bitch about every year, which is true, he does get hurt, but you can't complain about him getting hurt every year and then call him a choker. You can't have it both ways.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:15

Spiders getting hurt?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:16

Yeah. Last year he got hurt against or I guess it was two years. It was two years ago he got hurt. I think last year he did get hurt too against NBA.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:25

For our uh non-MBA listeners, is Spider Donovan Mitchell?

SPEAKER_00 1:26:31

That's nobody's in spider that all time. Is that right? Donovan Mitchell. And it's a spider with an A at the end, not E. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:41

He's like that. Who got that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:45

Queens go! They're jumping right now. I'm gonna let's go, boy. The buttons are buzzing.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:50

Boys are buzzing, eh? That's great. Oh, what a um But yeah, the Cavs should win this series, and they should win.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:58

Okay, but we're not we're we're not going away from you can't have it both ways.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:03

I get it. I've I come I forgot he got injured last year. I don't Oh, wait, he got injured against the Pacers. Yeah, and in uh Celtics.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:10

And the Celtics two years ago. Okay. And then when they were before that. And then when they were the one seed in Utah, he was hurt too.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:17

But there there's been a few years where he was been healthy and he didn't play well, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:23

I don't think Yeah, but uh but uh that's fair. That's what you want, but you can't also what I'm saying is you can't when he gets hurt, and if he does, you can't bitch about them about him. You can't you can't bring it up. Can't I bitch about James Harden? Of course. Okay. I'm on the same wavelength as you are. Okay, because uh we were probably in the same boat when they were always playing Golden State, we would always root for them. And I thought that one year in I think it was twenty eighteen in the conference finals when they couldn't hit a shot in game seven. I was I mean, I wanted James Harden to win really bad, I wanted them to To beat the Warriors, but uh you can relate to this. It's golf season. The man just wants to go on the links this time of year. Can you blame him? Yeah, gamble.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:10

That was a depressing series. That was actually a series where I thought James James Harden played well until the end. And then when CB3 went down with his hamstring injury, and then um 27 missed threes was unbelievable. And who knows? Like LeBron could have won another ring if it was against the Rockets and not the KD Warriors, not get swept by them. But um Yeah, I think the Cavs are gonna win this series in six. I think they're done playing around. I don't think they're gonna lose another game. They're gonna go to Toronto and probably win by about 20, just like the Knicks are doing the Hawks right now. That's my prediction. I think if Ingram's back Scotty's also banged up, too. Yeah. Scotty was banged up. They had a nine-point lead in the third or in the third quarter.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:56

Yeah, they had the lead for most of that that game and a double-digit lead, too. They were up by 12. Cleveland's crowd was dead. They were feeling the pressure, and then uh, you know, cut Cavs decided to play defense, and obviously it helps Ingram being out for the rest of that game in the second half. But I I think they will they'll force game seven if Ingram is back, but then the Cavs. Very similar vibes to when the Cavs beat Orlando two years ago. It was also the four or five matchup heffa. Yeah. And the home team won every game that series, and so far the home team has won every game this series.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:33

Shout out Dennis Schroeder, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:34

He balled out very good. He was playing uh they did bring Spida back in, Chris. Uh with the last three minutes. But uh the reason why the Cavs got got that big lead, they got a double digit lead, was because of Dennis Schroeder.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:50

Does he still have that weird hair thing? Like where does we have a why does he suck at defense though? Who is Schroeder? Yeah, he's just aw, what a liability to play. Well, just like Harden.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:02

That's why he's why he's played on 14 teams in the NBA. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even think I'm exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:07

I mean, he's he can lead a second unit, like, obviously, offensively, like he can drive a second unit in the league, but he's just so bad defensively.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:18

Like on like offensively.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:19

I mean, I'd rather have him than Jenkins.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:21

Yeah, Jenkins we signed him.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:25

But like, yeah, Jenkins is not doing I mean I kind of expected Jenkins not to do well though.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:31

Like, yeah, I mean I I don't know why he's getting so many, he's gotten so many minutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:35

Well, they need a second ball handler, you know. That's that's why that's the problem when you don't uh have a second ball handler, you need him to play, and clearly they trust him more over Sasser. But uh yeah, it would be it would be nice uh to have Schroeder, but Schroeder, that's what he does. He goes to a shitty team to start the year like he did with the Kings this year, and then he gets traded, and then he'll be on another team next year. That's just a revolving door with him.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:00

Do you uh so you have the calves in seven?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:02

Uh calves and seven, yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:03

So you got Pistons versus Cavs? Do you have Cavs or uh Yeah, I got Cavs.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:08

Cavs. Do you think Cavs win in six or seven?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:10

I don't care. Do you think Spider? This is the most nothing series to me ever. Like I hate both teams.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:19

Do you think Spider closes it out tomorrow night?

SPEAKER_01 1:31:21

Um yeah, why not? Why not? Why not Spida? The only thing that I think is cool about like either of these teams is that like uh throwback, you know, that game seven, I think it was against the 76ers or something, where uh Kawhi hit that three where it like bounced like seven times and then went in. Yeah, the game won it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:42

That was against the Sixers when Embiid was crying, right? That was game seven. That was game seven. Yeah, it was in the conference finals, right? Uh semis. Yeah, that would have been so much cooler if it was conference finals.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:52

Yeah, it would have been but that was another thing, big blow on Embiid. He's never made it past the second round.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:59

Yeah, that's true. That's actually wild to think about. Really?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:03

Yeah, never made it past the second round. Wow, that's embarrassing.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:06

When he was healthy, like he wasn't like he wasn't a great playoff performer. But like now. Oh!

SPEAKER_01 1:32:12

Oh, that's so embarrassing. Why'd he cut back? Oh, Bowl, he's an idiot. He had the goal. He had to work on the ball. Coach him up, Chris. Huh?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:19

Coach him up.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:20

Yeah, we'll work on that in the offseason. Has everyone, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:24

Yeah, he'll probably be here training in Plymouth.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:25

Like a I think they're redoing um one of the rinks though, so I don't know if they'll be training in Plymouth this offseason, but look at that. Yeah, just shoot it. Free goal.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:35

That's insane. Just shoot it right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:37

Who was that?

SPEAKER_03 1:32:37

Was that Flay?

SPEAKER_00 1:32:38

Oh, you know what? It was Felino. He didn't see Ottinger going down.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:49

Gotta keep your head up.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:52

Eyes up, half of a eyes up. Yeah. Um that's a good transition, I guess. Moving to the Western Conference. We don't need to discuss too much. OKC was obvious.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:03

We don't have to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:04

And we I think we both we all said OKC in four and Spurs in five. So we were right there. Chick Kaching.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:12

Um should have bet that on DraftKings.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:16

Yeah, the the other two are are in yeah, we shot off promo conozbly, don't forget. Um the other two uh looked like it could have been quick series. Uh we can start with Denver and Minnesota. Unfortunately, in game four last Saturday, uh DiVincenzo, Dante DiVincenzo, first minute of the game, tore his Achilles. Brutal. Yeah. What? Another goal?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:45

Oh, that sucks.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:48

That that is uh that's been like the Tommy John of Major League Baseball, Achilles has been a big epidemic.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:56

Yeah, that's that's really hard to recover from. Also, the the worst basketball injury you could have.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:01

And and and you want to know the stat? In the last year, Chris, in the playoffs, Dame Lillard, Jason Tatum, Halberton, Halliburton, and now Di Vincenzo all tore their Achilles in the playoffs. Do you know the one uh similarity between all those guys?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:21

Um what say their names again?

SPEAKER_04 1:34:25

Divincenzo. Divincenzo, Tatum, Lillard, and Halliburton. Um think about their jerseys.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:34

They all wear yellow? Nope. They all have the number zero. Oh. So wearing number zero is a curse. So you don't want to be wearing number one.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:42

We need Gibbs to change his jersey. Yeah, but that's different support, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:45

Okay. Yeah. Um but so DiVincenzo got hurt. Uh Anthony Edwards got hurt in that game in the first half as well. Uh, going up for a rebound, I believe. Hyperextension uh in his left knee. So he's out for at least two weeks. He's out for the series.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:03

Um, ironically what's going on with uh Ant-Man. Yeah, hyper extension. That's what we just said. Oh, okay. Yeah, hyper extension.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:09

Hyper extent his knee is probably out. He's out most he was going out for a rebound and he landed very awkwardly. It looked painful. I mean, it was it was lucky he didn't tear anything in his knee. Yeah, so that was honestly best case. But um once they already had the DiVincenzo injury, they had the series one at defense. No, they did, and uh they did end up they were losing at halftime in that series uh or uh of that game. Uh they turned up their defense and won with their defense in that in that uh game four. Uh but uh Denver did turn it around in game five. They got big games from uh Spencer Jones and uh Christian Brown, uh the role players. Aaron Gordon uh was hurt. Where did Christian Brown go to college, Chris? Uh ACC school. Nope. I'll give you a hint, he won the national championship for uh within the last four years. Yukon. Nope, Kansas. Oh. Okay. Yeah. They have not been good since he left. But, anyways, their their role players have been good. You would think uh Minnesota's role players play better, but uh Bones Highland, who's a ball handler, and uh Iodusumu, who had 40 points, uh 43 points in that game four, was a big reason why they came back and won that game after Ant and Di Vincenzo went uh went down. Uh he's on the injury report too. So even uh though the Nuggets do have some injuries as well, uh I mean Timberwolves are might have some third stringers on the court.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:43

Timberwolves, you know, like I underestimated them going into this series. So they do it every year.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:48

Two years ago, they were good. They were the three seed, but last year they were the sixth seed uh they made to the conference finals. And this year it looks like they were well on their way too.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:57

Yeah, they're just becoming that team that nobody would want to face in the first round. Yeah. Because they're they're always gonna be a five to eight seed, it seems like, and they're they're always just gonna wreak havoc on whoever their opponent was. It was Lakers last year, and now it's the freaking Nuggets.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:12

But yeah, they basically tank in the regular season, but they know they just gotta get into the playoffs, and then it's a whole new season.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:21

Exactly. And um, you know, they looked so dominant. It was it was it was really fun to watch. They were they have so much depth. I would assume.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:30

Update on the Knicks Hawks, 38 point.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:32

Oh my gosh. But yeah, Iowa Desumu, great pickup by the Timberwolves. Uh Jaden McDaniels, uh those words are probably gonna bite him in the ass because his whole team got hurt. Um saying, did you hear about that, Chris? Jaden McDaniels? He called out every single Nuggets player by name, saying all of them are bad defenders.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:53

And is this an NBA player? He's on the Timberwolves.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:56

He's on the Timberwolves, and he was like after.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:58

Is this name Jaden McDaniels?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:00

Yeah, after game two, they won the game and he was like nobody. Why is he even talking? He's a good player. Jaden McDaniels? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:07

He's obviously not a good player.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:09

He would he after the game, he was like, How do you guys win that game?

SPEAKER_01 1:38:11

What college did he go to?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:13

Being what college did he go to? Wait, wait, did he go to I don't know. They said I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:19

Can't be that good of a player. For some reason I was thinking UConn, but it's definitely not UConn. No. I think it's the team out west. But anyways, yeah, he which ironically it Denver's defense hasn't been the problem. It's been their offense. And then they got their offense clicking last game. Uh you know, game five, obviously, with the injuries. Um, but yeah, he was going down the list. You said Jokic, Murray, Aaron Gordon, who Aaron Gordon's a pretty good defender, ironically.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:46

I know who that is. He went to Washington, by the way, McDaniels.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:48

McDaniel. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:50

Horrible college.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:52

Yeah, well, who's that other guy? Fultz?

SPEAKER_01 1:38:54

Yeah, Markel Foltz. How did that work out?

SPEAKER_00 1:38:56

He'd been horrible. Uh no, you would like Jaden McDaniels, Chris, the way he plays. Talks a lot. He uh yeah. Um He plays so hard. He he he play he basically he would be kind of like Crusoe. Uh yeah, yeah, very similar. He's a little bit better offensively, I would say. Yep. If he played hockey, he would be uh offensively skilled Gunnar.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:21

Oh, okay. So I'll think of him like that. I like that. I like that. Yeah, yeah. Uh and he's a shit shit talker. Love it. Love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:27

A little Marshion. Yeah, yeah. Uh straight up. Um, yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:32

I love that talk. Uh like that's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:35

Yeah, he was like, uh, we're just gonna go after the bad defenders. Jim and naming them all, the whole team. That's awesome. And then the next game they win, and he just goes up for a layup when the game's over and no one's doing anything, and Jokic just ran up to him and like got in his face, like getting all pissed. It was it was hilarious. Because he's not really into basketball.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:52

Yeah, that he says that.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:54

That's just such a lot. More of a horse guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:56

Yeah, he he's uh he loves his horsies. But yeah, it was good to see that fire from Jokic after the uh uh after game four because that's when McDaniel's they were up by 14, Chris, and he dunked the ball. Um but I I said this to half after those injuries. Like Denver's gonna back in, back their way into uh the second round. And and and Denver does have we'll see if Aaron Gordon played, he didn't play in game five, and and P Watt, who's also a good defender, has been out this whole series. So did you say P WAD? P Wat. Peyton Watson. Oh, right. I I I know the college he went to Chris. Uh MSU. No, no, uh, another West Coast team. Uh they are in the Big Ten. UCLA.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:44

UCLA, okay. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:46

Um so though those the uh those guys have been out, but obviously um you know, AMP being out is the biggest injury of that series. Uh seven. That's the equivalent of Jokic being out, obviously, for Denver if he were to be out. Um but Denver's five and a half point favorites, I would expect him and Murray kind of will uh uh back uh will the nuggets back to uh a game seven and then I I unfortunately for Minnesota um you know their best player, two of their starters have been out. But at the same time, like imagine if they were uh had played better in the offs uh in the regular season half, they would have been in playing the Lakers and they probably would have won the series. Yep. So that's why it does suck and you know it's shitty, but injuries do happen, it happens to every team. Yeah. Um and you they maybe they shouldn't have fucked around in in the regular season. Because when I saw them live and they did have some injuries, like Ant was hurt and uh Mc McDaniel's was hurt. Um but uh they did not they did not look good uh when I saw them at uh at LCA a couple weeks ago. Yeah, they didn't look they didn't look good at all. They don't play with the same intensity. Like if they play with the same intensity, and obviously injuries are gonna happen, but if they gave a shit like they did in the playoffs, they probably would be in the second round with the injuries they already have. Totally agree. Um but we'll see. Maybe maybe their role players step up and get a win tonight, but I'm going with Nuggs and seven. What are you uh going with, Chris?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:30

Yeah, I I mean I said that um just gonna take over this series and will their way through the Nuggets. He's hurt now. Um I'll still take I'll still take the Timberwolves. I think that'd be fun. Uh yeah, I'll take the I'll take the wolves.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:51

I got the Nugs and seven. Um no Ant-Man, no Di Vincenzo, no problem, Nugs and Seven.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:59

Facts. And then uh the last series, do you think Leboo Boo Bear prevents history being the first ever team to blow up LeBron?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:10

Oh LeBron.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:12

So there's never heard of that. Well, did you guys hear there was some fan last year on his 30th birthday who had like a original when he was on the cads the first time, an old vintage LeBron jersey, and he said, Happy birthday, Le Boo Boo Bear. A grown man.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:27

This guy's a clown. This guy's a clown. Oh, actually, just a quick update. Um, the Knicks are up 50 in the second quarter. Are you told you 72-22?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:38

I'm gonna I'm gonna change I'm gonna change it.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:41

70 to 22?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:42

72-22. I said it was gonna be 60 by the time we get off air, it's gonna be 70. That I've got even half that. It's not even half. Not in the playoffs, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:52

I I bet the Hawks have already given up their golfing already. Yeah, they're in can't they're in can they're booking their trip to Cancun tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:59

Um mentally they are, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:01

I don't know if you guys saw this. You guys probably did. You guys are kind of tapped into the NBA world. Um, Kevin Durant is out for game six.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:09

Yeah, game six. He's played missed the last four games. Oh well, tomorrow will be the last four games. Um, but so there's never been um a team, Chris. It's a penalty. Uh no team has ever in NBA history come back from three games to zero. This is only the sixth that's really surprising. Yeah, this is only the sixteenth time um a team has forced a game six, and I think only six teams have uh got it to game seven. So uh yeah, you have said the big news, KD's out for tomorrow. But but what do we got, Luke?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:43

The last three games we've had Reeves.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:45

Uh Reeves came back from the Reeves came back from oblique. I think Lucas still out. Yeah. He's getting closer, but I believe he'll be still. Was this Reeves' first game, last game? Yeah, game five.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:54

I mean, he was just warming up. I saw his numbers, like it was not it was he was sufficient, no. He was missing all his open shots.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:01

Uh Smart didn't play as good as he usually does, too.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:04

No, and that was a big reason why they went up three games to nothing, is because Marcus Smart and Kennard were playing well. Yeah, Kennard. Houston did have that big choke in game four, or excuse me, game three when they were up by six with 30 seconds left, back-to-back turnovers. Lakers got three or uh um three free throws because they followed the shooter. Um I think it was uh Ruyo Hachimore they followed, and then or no, it was Marcus Smart, and then LeBron got the steal, and then uh the game time three that set it into overtime. Uh but Rockets have looked better. Um ironically, all those three games, Chris, um KD was out. Um they should have won that uh game three if KD was just well was able to play in just ball handling. Uh if he was a ball handler in that situation, they probably win that game. Uh but they've bounced back nicely. Um I do think they force a game six or excuse me, a game seven, and then I think Lebuo Boo Bear drops a 40 piece in game seven half for the Lakers to win that.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:07

I think the Lakers are finally gonna um to be honest, I thought they lost game four. My theory was because like it gives them two more days off to play OKC, which mean it would mean like Luca would have a chance to be back game one compared to game two or three. I thought that like they might have lost that game on purpose, but maybe not. But then they lost game five. It would be the wildest thing out like people who hate LeBron they're gonna have so much ammunition if they lose this series. Like, first of LeBron can't be the first like beyond the first team that loses a a 3-0 lead. Like it just can't happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:49

I mean, there I think there's some nuance to that. They're missing their best player. But LeBron haters missed their third. Yeah, but they went up 3-0 this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:58

LeBron haters don't care.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:01

Yeah, they all and then let's not forget LeBron is like a grandfather. Like, he's how old is he? 41? 40?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:09

They'd be so you you best believe no LeBron will never ever hear that. Because, like I said, it'll be the first time ever, Chris, that a team is blowing a 3-0 league.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:18

It'll be a massive blemish. I don't care how old he is, everyone will mention it compared to like the Jordan talks. And I don't think it's fair. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just saying that's what's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:27

No, no, and I don't I am a LeBron guy. I don't like the Lakers, and I think the Lakers are horrible. I I think both of these teams, compared to the other playoff teams, I think are not very good. Um that that's why like I I'll go back to it. That's why the Wolves shouldn't have fucked around in the regular season because they would have they would have been a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:48

If they have Luka Doncic on their on their team playing, you don't think that they're up to par with these playoff teams? Um a little bit closer.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:56

A little bit closer, but yeah, they're gonna lose to the Thunder with or without him. Really? Uh yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:02

I think Luca is the only player that would have a chance at like willing a team. It'll be I guess him, Ant-Man.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:12

It'll be more it'll be more competitive uh if they didn't have him, obviously, if they do uh hold off the Rockets. But look at last year, Chris. They had LeBron, Reeves, and Luca last year, and they lost in five in the first round to the Wolves. Um so I I don't think it'll matter um next round if they do come back. Um I I'm gonna say Lakers and seven, that's my final prediction, but I will be rooting for history to happen the series Hefe. Lakers and six.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:44

Chris Lakers and six. I I love LeBron. I I love LeBron.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:52

Uh fair enough. Um so I like uh Chris said, I do hope there's uh when he said more hockey's better, I do hope more bet more uh the more basketball the better, Hefa. But uh I'm rooting for the opposite. But with with teams uh the teams that are up 3-2 and the teams that are down three two, I would recommend not going down 50 to force a game seven.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:18

Yeah, not not a smart idea by then. Not uh not smart to tank a playoff game. Yeah, the Hawks are uh tanking in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:30

Yeah, facts, Chris. You're not lying. Um alright. We did mention it earlier, uh, we didn't bring it up last week, but um a lot has happened since with the Mike Vrabel Diana Roussini um situation, the conundrum, dare I say. Um if you haven't heard or don't know who Mike Vrabel or Diana Rossini is, uh Mike Vrabel is a head coach of the New England the New England Patriots. He was a former Player. He was part of the dynasty the first time. Um, the first part of the dynasty when they won three games or three um I was gonna say Stanley Cups, Lombardi trophies. Um, and then he coached the Tennessee Titans. He was the head coach there for six years, uh, six or seven years, I believe. And uh he got them to a AFC championship. He was uh he got them to a one seed um as well. And before that, the Patriots or excuse me, the Titans weren't very good, and the Titans have not been very good since. Uh they had the number one pick in last year's NFL draft, the first year without him. And uh then he took was not a head coach for one year, and then took the New England Patriots, however you want to call it, they they probably had the easiest schedule, but they did go to the Super Bowl, uh, whether you liked it or not. And uh it has come out um it was about a month ago that um photos came out of last year that uh the owner's meeting happened in uh Phoenix, and photos came out of him holding hands with uh Diana Roussini, who is an NFL reporter. Uh she worked at ASPN now. She did work at the Athletic before she resigned a couple weeks ago, and uh they were holding hands uh by the pool side, they were sitting next to each other, they were hugging each other. Uh not a good look. Both of them uh denied it, uh saying, How could you think this, this and that? We were with friends.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:40

Oh, how could we think this? Uh oh yeah, there's pictures.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:43

Um so obviously they denied it at first, then Roussini resigned two weeks ago. Um, last week is when it really spiced up. Vrabel said um that he um you know had tough conversations, um, things that he regretted. Uh he had tough conversations with his family and players. And then after that press conference, it was at midnight, page six, I believe, of the New York Post, uh had new photos during COVID in 2020. Uh they were all lovey-dovey in a New York uh dive bar. They were kissing, they were sitting right next to each other, very close to each other, uh, and then all hell broke loose uh after that. Then Vrabel said he he was gonna skip uh day three of the draft and go to counseling. Uh there were marriage counseling. Yeah, marriage counseling, and he was in Utah. Uh he was in the Utah airport buying stuff for his wife. Photos were linked to that, and then there is a playlist. Uh did you see the playlist, Tefa?

SPEAKER_04 1:52:50

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:52

So uh when the uh Titans were on a four-game losing streak, I think this was right before he got fired in 2022. Diana Rossini made a playlist uh for Mike Vrabel. It was shared, it was shared with one person with a uh a person named Mike. It was it was called turning the page. And it was coincided with the Titans losing four games in a row in December. And then uh Diane's Diana Rossini got rid of her um Spotify playlist or her Spotify account, and that uh that person named Mike changed their um name to Tycar, which is short um or it's a combined uh name for Mike Vrabel's two sons of names, Hefa. So it was clear it was clearly uh Vrabel. Uh that came out a couple days ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:46

Did you say Roussini has a isn't her kid's name Mike?

SPEAKER_00 1:53:50

So Roussini.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:51

One of hers, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:52

Let me add a let me add a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little, Chris. Yeah, so she's uh yeah, like he was saying, she was a senior reporter of the athletic. You know, there are a lot of her tweets circulating around, a lot of you know, tin foil hat theories being made. She's since deleted her ex account. Um do you want to say that, you know, besides for the pictures of them like kissing and being together, you know, nothing is fully substantiated, and they are, you know, both married and have uh and have kids. And have families. Which and have families and and all that. So I mean, not a not a situation that's good, obviously um awful that this is happening. Um, but there's certainly a lot of interesting coincidences that are being found. So to highlight a couple more, um there was pictures of him buying a uh a shirt at a store, which then there's pictures of Diana uh wearing that shirt. Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:56

There's also Wait, it was this isn't the shirt he he wore or he bought this weekend, was it? Uh no, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:04

Oh, this is a different location. Um there was also uh an interview that she had in an exclusive interview with Vrabel, and I believe it was his birthday, and she asked um Verable um what his favorite part of his birthday so far was, um, which people are you know just making kind of jokes online about how like well the favorite part of his birthday was probably you know like waking up next to her.

SPEAKER_00 1:55:36

Yeah, no, it was uh last training camp. She interviewed him uh on his birthday.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:42

Yep, and then um there's uh oh shoot, there's something else that I wanted to bring up about that. Oh yeah, but um talk about the tweets. Um I'll let you take that that one, but uh let me just do one other one and then we'll throw it back to you, Bean. Um there's some interesting narratives going around where people are now like stalking kind of where. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:12

There's a champs bomb half. I'll do sumu is out for tonight. Oh my god. Chris was like, who the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_01 1:56:20

I've heard of them, I believe. Illinois. Yeah, Illinois. You know you got it, you got it.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:27

No, but you got it, you got it, you got it. I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:29

No, you said you said it first. I knew it, but you said it.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:34

I can see the wavelengths. You got it, you got it. It was coming out of your mouth. He was the one that scored 43 in uh in game four when those two guys got hurt, uh, Devon Chun's own ant. And now they're not gonna have him either, Hef. So this is this is going back to Denver, I believe, Hefe. But sorry, keep going. Keep going, uh Oh, and by the way, our good friend Mabin just texted me that update. So perfect. Perfect. Should I ask him about Mabin. Should I ask him about uh Wembi his thoughts on Wembi? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:03

Let's get his thoughts on Wembi. Well, we'll keep going through this. So um basically, there's some on online speculation, and again, I want to make this clear this is an awful situation, and this is all speculation that we're making right now. This is not factual. But there's a lot of um narratives kind of connecting the birth dates of Rossini's children lining up with hanging out with Vrabel, where they are able to kind of track down where like nine months before she had both of her children, she was with Vrabel around those times. That is confirmed. Oh god. It obviously that doesn't mean that it's Vrabel's kids.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:52

Obviously, you know, so that's one of the tweets I was gonna actually kind of they both coincide. Obviously, kids uh their kids have nothing to do with this. It's horrible that we're even, you know, mentioning this. Yeah, uh yes, that and then Vrabel's uh wife and Rossini's husband.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:13

I don't really care about her husband.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:17

But anyways, her um so Rossini was at the game that weekend, or was at a Titans game, and the reason why we know this is because someone was chirping Vrabel and she was like defending him, uh saying like he he's not uh like Rabel isn't playing the game, he's not like missing these tackles, this and that. And then nine it coincides with nine months later, almost to the day, uh she goes, My son is four days old. Uh I'm looking at him, like what what player and coach named Mike does he remind you of? Because his name is Michael, and that those two tweets are nine months apart.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:06

That is insane.

SPEAKER_00 1:59:09

So uh yeah, it's no bueno quit Chris. It's I I don't I don't want to bring a lot of I hate to bring up the kids, but it it makes you think. It really does make you think. So and and uh obviously the b the big part of this is um I I was um Roussini's a reporter and she's reported uh she the big thing is the AJ Brown. So at the time AJ Brown, the Titans traded him away to the Eagles, and she basically like reported like what it would take to get AJ Brown, and the Titans um traded him for less. And then for fast forward four months later, AJ Brown was in the news um being uh she basically reported how they're gonna trade him away. That was during the season last year, and then basically Schefter confirmed that report that he's gonna be traded post June 1. How about so that that's where that's where this whole mess is your personal business is your personal business. Right. If you're gonna cheat, whatever, like it's your life, it's not mine. Uh obviously I don't condone it, but it that's your business. But this is where it becomes sticky is her reporting. Yes, yes, it's it's tampering.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:37

And and there's even yeah, I mean, yeah, there that's a great call out being another one. Did you hear about the um MVP vote? What's that?

SPEAKER_00 2:00:48

Oh, the Josh Allen. The Josh Allen, Hefa?

SPEAKER_01 2:00:51

Did you see this?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:51

I didn't I'm not caught up on the story.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:54

So jump in, bean, if I'm butchering this, um, but basically, you know, she has a vote for NFL MVP, and um she she had a really weird quote. I don't know if I don't know if you're trying to pull it up right now, Bean, or not, um, but she had a really interesting quote back in the day, which that seemed really weird, basically just kind of talking about it it it made it seem that she didn't want that historically MVP votes are not public, yeah, and they publicized them, and she made it seem like, oh god, like, oh, you shouldn't be like she was very anti them being public, and she made it it she made it seem like she told Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen that she was voting for them and and lied to them because obviously she can't vote for for both of them.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:52

Of course, dude, this yeah, and then and because like Chris said, the um I thought you were gonna say that she voted for Drake May or something.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:00

Yeah, it just seems like she has a lot of integrity in the city.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:03

No, this is when Josh this is when Josh Allen and Lamar two years ago, so 24 MVP. Um excuse me, but like Chris said, the votes were historically um not revealed on who voted for who. So she basically told them both that she voted for them. And obviously she only w voted for one person to come in first, and she voted for Lamar Jackson, but she told Josh that she voted for him. So clearly she doesn't have a lot of integrity as a reporter.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:39

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, good thing she uh she's gone.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:43

Uh yeah, it's uh I think she'll go independent in a few months. But but who's gonna trust her though? I mean, that's the I I I still think like just because of like what she did and like everyone knows who she is, I think people will still listen to her. Like I think she'll she'll she'll go independent. Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:04

Before all this, I really respect I respected both of them. Uh but clearly this is a big this is big uh obviously big stain on both their careers.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:14

Yeah, I saw her like back in the day saying like her husband's a dweeb. Right. And all that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:19

She she said she doesn't post a lot of photos of him because he's not that good looking. She said that on air. Like yeah, she's so much so much videos have come about her marriage and about her sex life and all that.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:32

She said a lot of like crazy, like she she uh like definitely flirts with a lot of players and coaches. Clearly. Like I'm not saying that she does anything with them, but she's always kind of had like a very flirtatious personality. I mean, she's uh has historically been a common guest on Pardon My Take. Um shout-out, Pardon My Take, no free shout-outs. Um and and uh yeah, I mean she's always been very yeah, kind of flirtatious and uh clearly she it seems like she was really crossed the line with with that and um and uh I j I just hope that you know everything is okay with the you know with uh their kids on on both sides and and uh it's yeah, it's just a horrible situation.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:23

Yeah, um just to cut off from that really quickly, um I did get I did get a comment from Maben about Wemby wasn't much, but he said, and I quote, by far the biggest dweeb in the league, literally and figuratively, end quote.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:40

Yeah, not a big Wemby guy. No. Um shout out Maben though.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:45

Yeah, shout out our former co-host, we love Mabin.

SPEAKER_01 2:04:47

Um Well the Knicks are up 60 boys, so you know what time it is.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:51

I told you. No, they but they cut it to 47. Oh, wait, no, I can't count, can I?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:56

No, that's yeah, 47. You're right. Okay. Maybe it oh my god, it's not even halftime yet. Right. If I'm a hawks, I'm not even going out for the second half. That's embarrassing. Yeah, it shouldn't. Uh but yeah, it's it's uh it's it's not good. Uh yeah, and have I half, I'm interested to see or I'm interested to hear what what you think what do you think this does with for the Patriots now?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:24

I don't think it's gonna do much. Okay. I don't think it's gonna do much, but I do know one thing that my head coach Dan Campbell would never do something like that. He my Dan Campbell is a loyal husband and a leader of men, and a leader of men and a leader of everyone around him in the city of Detroit.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:43

Yeah, it's like if I and granted Patriots had a lot of issues that came out during last year, but if I'm, you know, like taking account Drake May, the face of the franchise, it's like I would find it hard to kind of believe the messages I'm hearing from Vrabel day in and day out after all this, after having a six-year affair. Uh so I I wouldn't I just wouldn't trust the word he would say now as a as a leader.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:12

Definitely tarnishes his reputation.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:14

Yeah, and uh there's been reports that the last three weeks Vrabel has not you know looked the same. Um obviously. So uh I mean who who he may be after all this shit, he may stuff he might not even be the coach next year, Hefe.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:29

Yeah, wouldn't shock me one bit.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:32

Yeah. Um all right, do we want to talk about the Lions draft really quickly? Yeah. Um Chris, I know you were at the uh draft party a couple years ago when uh Jameer Gibbs was drafted. He said everyone was booing, which I get, you know, drafting a running back. They did move down too, drafting a running backs you know uh at number 12. You know, to move down, you think they would have uh probably done something different.

SPEAKER_01 2:06:58

That Eagles uh D tackle, yeah. Um Jalen Carter Jalen Carter.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:03

Yeah, but obviously it's worked out, but my the uh with Gibbs, and then they took Jack Campbell, who uh ironically they uh they extended Gibbs but did not extend Campbell because they want they don't want Campbell to get two more years because they want to pay him sooner because the market's only gonna go up for Campbell.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:20

Well, and can't well Campbell's uh um what is it called off ball or on ball linebacker, whatever it is his off-ball. So his um his fifth year extension as a first rounder would have been a good one. Yeah, it would have been 22 million. We'd make him the highest paid off-ball linebacker in the league, which we're obviously not doing.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:39

And they want to get him, they want him to get him to free agency sooner so they can pay him sooner.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:44

And that's why it it it incentivizes like teams to not draft off ball linebackers in the first round because you're not gonna give them a fifth year.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:53

So I was my point is obviously a lot of fans weren't pleased. Obviously, it's worked out because they had four picks in the first what it were, 30, 40 picks, whatever it was. Um, but I was at the draft party last week. Uh with my dad's sister and her boyfriend. Um, and uh we were there, everyone was obviously wanted to tackle, wanted to tackle, and obviously 17th pick comes around. Uh we draft Bike Miller, and we were still I was still here in Booze. Uh there were some chairs, but I think it was washed out by by Booze. Uh and it's it's just like okay, we wanted to tackle, but even you know, the fans want a particular player or this and that. Um I was happy with Miller, he fits our system. It's better than I'm assuming they wanted Monroe Freeling. Uh I did hear uh fans say um his name before they picked. But it's just like the Lions don't want to have a project. You know, we're not in a position to have projects, we're in a position to win now. So I was happy uh with the pick and their draft overall. What did you guys think?

SPEAKER_04 2:09:01

Yeah, exactly what you said. It's interesting how fans think they know a lot more than the the coaches. That's interesting. But um we are in a win now situation. I'm never gonna doubt a Brad Holmes' pick. I just feel like he has a great track record. I was I was assuming we were gonna take um like obviously O-line or like a key mezzador, like older um edge rusher. Um I'm glad we took Blake Miller. He seems like a really good guy. He seems like he fits what like the Dan Campbell mindset. Yeah um I loved our draft. I think I think our draft like for like a some would say a lackluster free agency. I think Brad Holmes made up for it in the draft. I think he was you know, we focused on O-line, D line. Um I think I think overall it's a good draft. Two Michigan men. I thought that was pretty cool. Um linebacker and edge rusher. I th I think we filled our needs. We needed Pinnae's probably gonna move to left. And um definitely Rolder. Um I don't know much about Rolder, but I do but from what I've heard, he seems like he's a pretty good player. Bean, do you know anything about Rolder?

SPEAKER_00 2:10:13

Yeah, he's uh he played in Michigan, he was good. Uh four-year guy, got better every year. He was uh back up in his first two years. Uh and then when because Michigan got um uh Barham from Maryland, and they expected him to be in the middle uh linebacker, uh be in the middle linebacker pair with Hausman, but they moved him to D end because they couldn't take what Rolder off the field. That's how good he was. Uh so I mean if it's their system, he's probably probably won't start. He'll be a special teamer this year. But I my guess is he'll kind of fill in for Rodriguez if they don't uh extend Rodriguez after his contract is up. Um but what I liked about the lines draft is they I you know I didn't know much about you know these guys that they drafted, but they were all they all played in the power four conference and they all had um success, their team success, uh, in the um in the time they were there. So uh I I obviously um you know most of them played a lot of games. Right, and and uh they I loved how they beefed up the defensive line. They got two DNs, a D-lineman. Uh they didn't get a safety, but Brad Holmes was asked about that and said I, you know, I didn't think it was that um uh I didn't think it was as good of a safety class as the media was making out to be. So and they did get a defensive back too, and they got some safety help in free agency. So all the holes that we had um that we needed, I think Holmes did a good job job of getting in the free agency and the draft. Um the people wanted a time. End and uh and a running back. Running backs you can I mean you could get a you can you can get an undrafted running back and I they got Pacheco at so cheap he's gonna be the backup with Gibbs so I I I didn't think we needed a running back. I would have liked a tight end, but a lot of tight ends went in the second and third round after we traded up to get Derek Moore. We didn't have a third round pick to begin with. They all that's when they all went. So what are you gonna do? Uh so I I people you know like the bitch just a bitch. I thought he did a great, great job of uh rebuilding the roster after missing the playoffs a year ago.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:37

Yeah, I'm glad he didn't um trade a bunch of picks for next year. You know, I think next year's draft is gonna be more important than this year. I love that we got the tackle, right tackle for the future, like you uh guys said, played a lot of games, extremely durable, no injury problems so far, which I think is really important. I mean, the best the best uh players are the ones that are available. Um yeah, it's a good quote. I like uh thank you. You come up with that one? Yeah, I did. Just on the spot though.

SPEAKER_00 2:13:10

Um speaking of the drafts, I just saw our fantasy group chat. Yeah. Um our good friend Eric Hanno over at E-Dog. He really wants you to draw. He wants you, he said it would be a good dog. He said it would be a good segment if you draft it in the pod. And then and then he uh and then none of us have responded, but then we didn't respond for a while. Um and then he said the uh he sent a tortoise emoji in the group chat. So he's really eager.

SPEAKER_01 2:13:39

He's really calling me out. We have 24 hours per pick. So for a little context for our listeners, we have a 10-man dynasty PPR league, and um we've had this league for a few years, so it's it's a rookie draft. Um, I won the league last year, fortunately, so I have the last pick in the first round. Um, I'm looking at the players, they all look awful. Um I mean, my team's pretty stacked, I don't really want any of these guys. Um and you're guys saying that he wants me to pick, or he wants it to check. He wants to pick on the pot. Oh, he wants to get going. Oh. I thought he really wanted like my draft pick and was willing to trade for that. And I would have loved to call him right now and do a live trade.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:24

He was gonna ask for your pick if Mendoza was there. He said. But Apple picked Mendoza.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:30

Just call him. Let's see. If he maybe he's still interested. Yeah, let's give Eric a call real quick. Also tell him he's live, uh live to tape. I'll make sure I'll tell him. Alright. Give him a call. I'll turn up your mic too.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:52

It's a really old phone, so you're not gonna hear it well.

SPEAKER_00 2:14:56

I'll I'll turn your uh mic up all the way.

SPEAKER_03 2:14:58

What up?

SPEAKER_01 2:14:59

Uh Eric, you are live.

unknown 2:15:02

Live?

SPEAKER_01 2:15:03

You are live on the nosebleed narrative. Um so I heard you want me to draft right now?

unknown 2:15:12

I would yeah, I would love that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:15

What about uh trading for my draft pick?

unknown 2:15:24

No.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:28

There's a lot of pressure on you now.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:31

No, no, I I do, however, think that you should take Dentel Boston because that's the obvious pick.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:37

And uh is that the Cleveland guy?

SPEAKER_03 2:15:39

That is the Cleveland guy, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:42

Alright, alright. Um well I'll I'll I'll do that later. I was just seeing if we could do a trade live, but uh that's okay.

unknown 2:15:49

Uh I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:52

I'll take care of it later.

unknown 2:15:55

Have a good night, brother.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:56

Alright, bye.

SPEAKER_00 2:15:58

And that was Eric Hanover, ladies and gentlemen. Shout out to E Doc. He uh I bet he would have traded for if Mendoza was still available.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:08

That's what he said. He was gonna try to talk to you because he thought uh he was gonna try to get Mendoza at 10.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:14

That would have been great. Yeah, I'm trying to trade uh I actually have a trade offer right now from from Scott um for a second rounder next year for this pick, which I which I I think it's Eric's second round pick.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:28

This draft is so butt, and next year's draft's gonna be elite. So like I think that might be worth it.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:34

So are you gonna be trading uh for picks next year? Maybe some players in the future?

SPEAKER_04 2:16:39

Yeah, I g I my team's not that good. So I I definitely need some picks. Uh my receiv my receiver room's bad, but hopefully the guy I just drafted uh boosts it up a little bit. I th I watched highlights of him at Indiana. He looks like a beast. No, yeah, he's good. Omar Cooper. He uh bad thing is he's on the Jets.

SPEAKER_00 2:16:58

But they're on the rise. GMO Smith is a good quarterback.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:02

Sadiq as well at tight end.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:04

And who knows, they could be the number one pick and what him and Manning.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:07

That'd be sick. That's kind of what I was hoping for, yeah. Or uh Dante Morgan's number one.

SPEAKER_01 2:17:13

Yeah, maybe good.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:16

Dante is the one from Detroit, isn't he?

SPEAKER_00 2:17:18

Yeah, Detroit King, yeah. That's really cool. Shout out to D. Shout out to D. Um lasting uh thoughts on the Lions draft boys. Go Lions. Go Lions. That's all we got. And go Stones.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:33

Go Stones. Is that finishing it off? Is that we're all done? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:36

All done here. We we've uh been on for a while. We just kept going and going. Yeah, long episode. I hope you guys when you go to Horny Jail, right, Chris?

SPEAKER_04 2:17:44

I don't know what that means. A nice, a nice uh long episode for you guys. Um, hope you guys enjoyed it. Um for our for our new listeners, thank you so much for listening. Really appreciate it. Um yeah, th uh, second episode down, but it's technically 33 since we started with a new name before. So we're gonna keep going. NBA playoffs, NHL, NHL playoffs. We're gonna continue going on. We're gonna start dropping our YouTube shorts, TikTok. Follow us at uh Nosebleed Narrative Podcasts. My name is Ryan Heffernan, Chris Robert, Chris Bean, dances.