Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 0:00

Hey, Regi, ponder the real critic and this is the Real Critics Network. I have been busy but it has not been with movie stuff. I got some construction happening over here. I feel like I, was it Mickey Howard a house under new management or something? Love under new management. It is. We under new management over here'cause we are in construction in a construction vortex. Anyway. I am here with my co-host, Kaia Woods. Kaia, it is so great to just get a moment to talk to you. I'm glad you had a little time to talk to me, who's been busy so it is on, it's been on me. You

Kathia Woods: 0:37

were in the same place, Reggie. And we, I heard you asking a question and then I said, well, what happened to him just outta there, like a house on fire.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 0:47

I was looking for you everywhere. I didn't see you at the movie, but I know you had like 15 invites, so you probably were doing 15 things. I wanna get right into it though, because we have a lot to talk about, a lot to cover. And in our first segment, what's on my mind, what's on my mind is the celebrations that the Critics Choice Association has. And Birdie told me that there was one of. The people that I know was on the red carpet for the celebration of Latina Latino cinema and television. And I just need just a tidbit just a little bit. Can I get a scoop? I actually, I wanna scoop. I don't even want a tidbit. I wanna post, wanna know something? They didn't post that nobody else was told, but you probably told the world since you Katia Woods was on the red carpet.

Kathia Woods: 1:44

You can hear my voice and you can see my hand. And the, one of the most funny actions I had was Anthony Ramas, who is a Jet fan. And I told him thoughts and prayers on him being a Jet fan, and he asked me what fan I am. I said, we defend him Super Bowl champs. I said, we winning over here. Now granted lately we've had some hiccups, but if nothing is as bad as being a dress fan.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 2:11

Yeah, well right now I'm getting a you know, pop my collar'cause the bears are doing pretty well right now. So that's all I could say about that.

Kathia Woods: 2:20

And I like to say we will circle back, come play all time everybody's doing. And listen, everybody does really well. And then we get into the real deal, holy field and not everybody. And listen, the Eagle's gotta tighten up.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 2:36

I wanna get back to this celebration'cause we do have a lot to talk about. Yeah. Is that so you were on the red carpet? Yeah. Gimme two highlights from the red carpet for the celebration of Latino cinema and television.

Kathia Woods: 2:53

Dolores Huerta, who is 90 plus years young, we had a nice chat. That was pretty cool. And I think I would say other than, and then with Kla is talking to him, he's the director Mendoza, he Fi Mendoza, he's the director of the Secret agent, which is Brazil's entry to best international film. I was about to say, best foreign film, but they don't change that wording. So that's pretty good as a fellow Brazilian for us to have. Our little moment, and super, super excited for Wagner today. Who is a double nominee, go Wagner. So I think that those were like my personal ones. But again, Anthony Rams. We had ourselves a good little Kiki on the carpet,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 3:37

and now I've asked a little bit about the red carpet. Talk about the power that was in the room, the energy that was in the room that night.

Kathia Woods: 3:49

I think, I always say this and people always think that I'm being cliche-ish, but some of the best movies being made are not in English. And I've been a champion of be, I talked about it, in our guild and being like, oh, watch this movie Dolores was on, on my guild for on my ballot. For a lot of categories, I think be is one of the most important movies, I think. Be. Speaks to everything that's going on here. It's an important movie, not just for Latin America, south America, but it's just an important movie. What the power of women and what happens when we have our voice stripped. You know how this young woman found herself being in jail and she had a miscarriage this is where we're going, but just this woman that made this movie that really stayed with me. So I think her talking about the importance of us as women taking, our power and you don't have to be famous to do that. I think also, I gotta think, just overall the beauty that is to be Latino. The diversity in the room at too, being on the carpet with his mother, he's a child of immigrants and having her be so emotional and having the support.'cause this is the other thing, miss, we gotta misspell that a lot of Latin American parents dismiss their career children. And here you have a woman who drove her son to the arts and poured into him and look at where it's leading. You know what I mean? And she just is when you lead with love, so she's pretty. So that was a pretty cool moment. Him and his mom.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 5:36

That's wonderful. Now everybody knows that Reggie Ponder does not speak Spanish, but because you went to the celebration of Latinos cinema and tv, say something to your Latino compadres in Spanish about this. I won't know what you're saying, but that's okay.

Kathia Woods: 6:13

In other words, it's important for us to celebrate our diversity, for us to lean into that when we are creating our art and to celebrate all of us, which I think is the same thing we have on the black side. We gotta celebrate black people global, and get out of these di diaspora wars, which are ridiculous, and. Lean in. Yes, we have different points of entry, but we have more in common than we don't. Wow. Which is All of us started over there on the continent. That's where it all leads back to, I don't care if you're British accent, I don't care if you're Irish or Scottish. Our people all come from that part of the world. Wow. And the boat just made different stops and some people stayed Indian Americas and some people got shipped to other parts of the world. And I think the moment we do more of that, I love, remember like we were talking about Scottish TikTok and black people in America discovering their black Scots. And then, were with Junior, went over to Scotland and he connected with some of'em and they had a whole meetup. That's what I'm talking about travel with intentions or some black people were like, I never thought I'm into the uk. A gazillion times. I didn't know we were over there. Okay, I'm on my way. And people booking trips that's what I'm talking about. Let's build c There's so much going on. Let's build community. We don't have the energy to be, at least I,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 7:40

one of the things that I really love, thank you for that. I really love that. And one of the things that I really love is that the Critics Choice Association, if not the organization started it, but members within the organization said that we needed to have these celebrations and that our organization supports that, these celebrations are very, very important and I love it. I am gonna see you, I think in a few days at the next celebration. Are we though,

Kathia Woods: 8:13

are you though? That's true. You're just gonna be dip it in like you did at the last time. I, last time you claim you saw me. That not Reggie ponder in the front row. You

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 8:24

can ask everybody. I was looking for you because I was gonna complain to you at one of our events that the DJ wasn't playing the kind of music for us to get our groove on it. It was like, it was okay. I mean, it was not the same party. But anyway, it's

Kathia Woods: 8:40

supposed to be well on Tuesday, I don't know. I is, I allegedly rumor has that, it's supposed to be after party, which I don't wanna say this, I want nobody talking about. I said there's gonna be after party's gonna be this. Don't put that on me. I'm saying there may or may not be. I know Sean puts together a playlist. I know one year we did have a dj, maybe we turned up too hard. They said no more dj, but either which way. I know one thing Reggie Potter's gonna be on that dance floor, like he was at the at the color purple. If you wanna know, Reggie was not, some people are at the bar, but Reggie's on the dance floor. Reggie said Y'all can have the bar. I'm ready. I was about to sit, Donna, come get your guy.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 9:22

I'm like, if they're playing music, I am trying to have a dance party. Let's talk about a party that's coming up, which is the celebration of black cinema and television and there are some really big names that are gonna be honored. I spoke with Sean Edwards, the executive producer. I spoke with him yesterday about this event and I so happen to have been able to, at the Chicago International Film Festival, catch up with a couple of these folks. I caught up with Spike Lee. I had a video thing with Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan. I was able to catch up with Tiana Taylor. I talked to Nia DeCosta as well as Tessa Thompson and all of those people are being honored here, and I just think that this is gonna be as usual, just one of the highlights of the year. This is one of the events that our whole organization, I mean, our whole organization looks forward to, they all say, and I'm talking about black, Latino, whatever, say, we gotta make sure we make it to that one. We coming into that one. And I think that this is going to be a great one. It's going to, people will be able to see it on Stars in January. And I just leave it to you to say a few words about the upcoming celebration.

Kathia Woods: 10:48

I think we know why it's needed, we're only 13% of the population and we're even less when it comes to these guilds. We look at, I asked the question day, I said who's the leading black Oscar pond? Are they even women that have that big of a platform, right? Other than Clayton, I think maybe Clayton, but Clayton works at a trade, but who's like outside created their own platform. Where is that voice? Where are the women in that conversation? It's still predominantly white. It's still predominantly male, and we know that's how the voting goes. There's only room for one. It best, or we shove'em all best supporting. So I think that's why you need it. And then sometimes you have people, like somebody like a Delroy Lindo that has such a resume and given us so much and people always think that he's been awarded. But then when you do the knowledge 180 and you dig around, right? And you go oh, what? Oh, oh, okay. Hey, we, yeah, no. Nope, we have not given him his flowers, right? It's always at the funeral procession. So that's what you need it. I think you need it for someone like a Tessa Thompson who was on my ballot, who I adore, who I will always be rooting for, who's beyond talented. And we know that she has light-skinned privilege, but if she were white, the checks were a bit bigger, right? It's not lack of talent. So that's why you need it. You need it. So these performers know that we see you, we see your work. If no one else sees you, the community sees you. Ooh, we still, we on mute, friend.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 12:25

I think that's beautiful. I'm really glad that you mentioned that. I'm gonna be on mute for a minute'cause of this construction. They got it going on over here.

Kathia Woods: 12:33

I took a lunch break. Talk to me, I mean, from your perspective, right? Because we're around the same age, do, are we seeing more people getting opportunities? We don't wanna be all doom and glue, right?

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 12:48

Yes. I'm not seeing more people getting opportunities, but I am blessed to be in a cohort where I see some of my friends who are getting those opportunities and I'm very, very happy when tho when those things happen. So, for instance, when I talk to you about a junket that you were invited to be it someplace in London or wherever I know that they're inviting these influencers and those types of people, but I am also very happy when I can hear that, oh. I know two or three people who are also invited to that as well. I know the numbers are dwindling, but as long as we have some people there and the fact that I am junket adjacent is what my daughter would say, I am junket adjacent because I have friends who are out there doing their thing that is really positive and very inspiring by the way. Just so inspiring to see my friends out there. Getting some of those opportunities. I know we are not getting all those opportunities, but it isn't inspiring to get some of those opportunities. We always talk about how it's a shame when we do not get the opportunity to talk to black talent about black movies or black roles. This celebration of black cinema allows all of us to rub elbows to talk and actually have these kind of conversations that are not gonna be recorded, that will not be interviews, but will be just some of that heartfelt stuff that you get when you just bump into somebody and you say, Hey Ruth, I really like what you did with those costumes, but I didn't understand how you did such and such. And she'll say, you don't know it was by Hooker, by did you have these real, real conversations bumping up against a ster a sterling or Ryan, and actually having conversations as opposed to interviews? These will be some beautiful, beautiful moments and I'm really looking forward to the celebration of black cinema and television.

Kathia Woods: 14:56

I think we know right now our industry is on the critic side is going through a dumpster fire, but I also feel like. So many people. Yes. We know a lot of our colleagues have left and been displaced. But at the same time, We're all hanging out. We're definitely not doing this for a check, but we're hanging on because if we don't talk about some of this talent and some of this work, who's gonna talk about it?

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 15:33

Absolutely. And when we get to our next SEC segment, we'll be talking about the nominations. And I'm just gonna, and in that segment, we're not gonna talk all about each movie. We'll do that on another segment. Yeah. We're just gonna talk about our initial reactions about the, those nominations and. It the reason why we need to continue to be in these organizations that we need to continue to talk about these specific movies. There's movies that you saw on the Latino side that now I'm gonna have to catch up with because you're talking about, oh man, it is just so beautiful and so fantastic. I've been a little bit behind this year just because of some things that are happening over here in on the Chicago side. But we need to see and talk about these movies because if we don't, no one will. So with that, I like to move into our next segment, which is the. So usually we talk about a movie or two movies or maybe three movies.'cause you like talking about movies. My god. Last, I think last episode you wanted to talk about six movies. I'm not, I can't talk about all these movies right now. My head is swimming, trying to talk about all these movies.

Kathia Woods: 16:48

I'm still in recovery from Avatar Bud. You go ahead.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 16:51

How, however, the nominations for the Critics Choice Awards for the 31st Annual Critic Choice Awards, which will air on January the fourth. We are, first up, we are setting the tone. Our votes matter. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's the campaign. Yeah our votes matter. Yeah. Maybe we'll do that. So let's get into the major categories and then any of the smaller categories that you might want to jump into as well. Because there are so many categories that we can't get through all of them in this show. But let's go through the first one, which is best picture, which everyone wants to know. So you got your list, Katia? I got my list. Alright. So who made it? Who made it in the top 10?

Kathia Woods: 17:44

Frankenstein. Which, okay. I feel like sometimes we have sinners. We have one battle Now one I need you to explain to me,'cause I'm really confused by this one bogo. Okay. I don't, I'm very confused by that.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 18:07

So we, so I'm gonna list them off before you talk about being confused. Yes. Hold on. We got gon We have

Kathia Woods: 18:11

gon Frankenstein Hamnet j Kelly, Marty Supreme, which is another one I'm not crazy about. One bad after another. Sentimental values, sinner, train Dreams and Wicked for good.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 18:24

And I will tell you I don't wanna say who shouldn't be on this list yet because I can't, I, because there's a couple, there's two here that I haven't seen yet. But what I do wanna say is that there was a movie that blew me that, that blew me away. They kept me captivated, that I like, that's not on this list. And it's heda heda for me. I really like what Nia DeCosta did for that film and am very shocked, almost. That this film didn't make it. I can't tell you which ones should drop off. I can't not right now, but I can tell you that heda for me I liked Wicked for Good, by the way, but I take Heda over Wicked for Good. I'm just saying I would, I agree with you on that one. I take head over j Kelly.

Kathia Woods: 19:18

I gave Wicked for Good a six, which made it like fresh, slightly fresh. It's only because of Cynthia and Arianna, the rest of the movie. I said this in my review. Sean Chu did not make a case other than cash grab for Universal on why we needed a part two. He, I would've just wished he made a longer movie, but we did not need a part two.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 19:49

Yeah it dragged a, it

Kathia Woods: 19:50

dragged very much and it looked like, you know what? It looked like a lazy layout. And this is why, to me, he did not, he does not deserve to be on the best director list.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 20:02

We'll get to that next, but for you, I mentioned one that I felt, I guess would be a snub because Heda really should have been on this list, in my opinion. I think what Nia did with this film was innovative. It made us interested in this aristocratic kinda upper class life that maybe we'll never, ever touch, but made me still be interested in that show. But is there a movie for you that you'd like to see on this list?

Kathia Woods: 20:32

We already talked about when I would bump off. Right. I, uh, but we have a, I understand, I just learned this. We have a rule that if you get nominated in best picture, you can't get nominated in international picture. We have this rule. Okay. So you can't have, you can't be a double nominee. So for me, I would've liked to if we didn't have that rule, then I would like to have seen Belen get in here. I'd like that movie that much, but I still think if we're going to go oh, dear God, if we're gonna go mainstream, bulia is just one of those movies where I'm just like. I just, it does not scream best picture, you know? And

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 21:25

I'm okay with it not screaming. Best picture. I need you to tell me who else is gonna, you would put in there. Don't tell who you gonna take off. Who would you have had in here? Katia Woods. You're getting on my nerve. I

Kathia Woods: 21:36

were, I would've said, you know what, we, I gotta think if I had legs I would kick. Oh, okay. You did tell me. I'll say that that is a movie that surprised me because at first when it starts, and also AAP Rocky is in this movie. When it starts, I'm like, what is happening? Why do we never, why does it take so long for us to see the husband? But I thought it is such a, we've had a lot of strong movies on motherhood this year. We had left-handed girl, we have this. I just think it really shows you a picture. What women deal with when you have no support and you trying to keep it all together and you are trying to be like, just a shame and just how you, it's important to give women support.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 22:27

And interestingly is that if you look, when you talk about motherhood, you look at Hamnet, you look at one battle after another. Yeah. You look at sinners. Yeah. All three of them touch on the issue of motherhood in very, very interesting ways. I hadn't thought about that until you just mentioned it, but I'm sure some of these other ones do do as well. But a really great comment, I guess we can move on to our next segment. I mean, our next. Nominations, and that's best actors. And for best actor, we have Timothy Chalamet for Marty Supreme, Leonardo DiCaprio for one Battle after another. We have Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon. We have Michael B. Jordan for Sinners. And then we have Wagner Maura for the Secret Agent. The, again, I am not, you and I are gonna have a whole nother show about who should, who, who should drop off. And you can say it now, who you think should drop off, but we are gonna dig deeper into that late.

Kathia Woods: 23:30

I I like, I believe it or not, I don't have a problem with any of the names on the list. I've been talking about Joe Eggerton for the longest time, for Trained. I said, first of all, he's another one. Been doing the Good Lord's work, been doing the Good Lord's work, been really like really, really, really doing that work.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 23:51

I'm not mad at this list. It is great. Michael b Jordan's at the top of my list this year. I'm just gonna say,

Kathia Woods: 23:57

I mean, he made the cut, but I'm saying to you, is he, and I think he'll make the cut on Monday for Golden Globes, but I'm saying to you, This is a good list. This is not a bad list. Yeah I agree

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 24:14

with you. I agree with you. So that means we can move on to the next, to best actress. So

Kathia Woods: 24:19

I'm not be honest with you, the surprise and first of all, once again, it, no shade to Emma Stone but Emma Stone, this movie, no, ma'am. And the other one that don't belong in here is Amanda Sifri. I'm not crazy about that.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 24:35

You, see guys, that, that we, if you've been listening to our podcast, you know that Katya Woods is opinion opinionated and she can't even wait for us to tell you who got nominated. She's hot.

Kathia Woods: 24:50

I'll tell you. Okay, this is, I'll say the list. Jesse Buckley for Hamnet Rose by, if I had legs I'd kick you to. Absolutely. But she did in that movie. If Jesse Buckley wasn't having a year that she was having, I would say Rose is the front runner here. I like. I think Chase Infinity. I don't have a problem with that, but she benefited by the movie getting a lot of nominations. So I think a lot of people went top down, which is nothing wrong. This is a tricky one for me, Renata Refe for sentimental value, because again, this, but it is a movie that talks about, it's not talking about mother daughter, but it's talking about father-daughter relationship, right? Again, Amanda Siegfried, who is super, super sweet and I've interviewed her before, and I like her talent. It's just this movie is not hitting for me. And same thing with Emma Stone, but I also get, Emma Stone is an award, Starling. So sometimes people get nominated because people like them as a talent believe that they're this modern day Catherine Hepburn, which hurts some of these other performances, right? People are talking about Kate Hudson. This is what we get into these studios. Try to wait until the last minute to roll out the film or to give you access to it, thinking it's gonna be the freshest in your mind, and therefore you're gonna vote for it. But it can also hurt them because if you wait too much to the last minute, like Disney waited too long to make Zootopia available, and it kind of didn't tell people that was only gonna be on the platform for like a second. And then when people thought, oh, I had time like we do with all these other movies, they went to go see it. It was gone. So I think in this

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 26:33

I'm one of those, I'm one of those I miss Zootopia. So Yeah. And

Kathia Woods: 26:37

I think like you, you can't be doing that, that, that, Ooh, how do that? And I get it, it's a strategy that has worked in the past. But the problem is boys and girls, in this particular case, if you, if they felt they had an award contender or she should have been considered for this movie. Then you should have rolled it out a little bit earlier. You shouldn't have seen it.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 26:59

I couldn't agree with you more.

Kathia Woods: 27:01

I, and also you get fatigue. I mean, people also gotta understand, right? I say this, I had a really lucky year. I started all, some of these movies I saw January, February, and then in May, I caught a lot of these foreign films. Sandra, falling, sentimental Value, Sierra, and all of those, right? Your secret agent. So if you didn't go to film festivals and you don't have screenings in your backyard of these movies, and you're not getting these screenings early enough, but mind you, it's happened on over Thanksgiving weekend. So you got family, you got all this other nonsense going on, right? Stuff is gonna fall through the crack.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 27:41

And some things absolutely fell through the cracks. I wanna ask you about best actress. My question is there an African American actress that you feel was left out on this list?

Kathia Woods: 27:55

I just, I think the movie is, there's nothing wrong with the movie. I think Amazon and Tessa always makes herself available. I just feel like she needs a bigger budgeted film to get her over the top. Tessa Thompson, it's not the work. The work is there. It's not lack of talent. She understands how to play the game. It's that the work, it's, she needs something bigger like this. Remember we talking about, this was

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 28:34

big to me. No, I don I don't really understand that comment. Ka I know,

Kathia Woods: 28:40

I it's, here's the thing, is the game is rigged for black women. We know that for black women, we can't do the indie thing like oh girl did with, and Nora, that is not a path that helps them. We have to have people, we need the machine behind us and there's nothing, and I get what you're saying, but you need the$25 million 30 campaign. That's what you need. Okay. And look at what happened with Cynthia. Now, the problem with Cynthia, I don't wanna say the problem with Cynthia. I think the challenge, I wouldn't say it's a problem'cause there's nothing wrong with Cynthia. The challenge is the movie got very mixed reviews, especially from the critics. So I didn't think she was gonna make the cut once those reviews came out. I didn't think. And some people, this is more Ariana's movie, even though Cynthia still had great moments. It's almost like I fit. I feel like if they would've switched and had Ariana be lead. In this and then made Cynthia supporting. I feel like Cynthia would've made it. But also I think there's also backlash on how Universal has handled their marketing. Leaning more towards influencers. So critics are like, why are we voting for your movie? I know that sounds petty, but it's also part of the business, right? The politics. So I think in this case you, she had the machine, but there were some missteps and the movie wasn't as well liked. Okay. Whereas I feel like if Tessa had the big, big machine and they're wonderful people at work, I wanna be very clear. In Amazon, MGM, however you need, it's like running for office, right? I keep explaining this to people. You can be an amazing candidate and we know there are some amazing candidates, but if you ain't got no money and you don't got the right campaign manager, your campaign ain't going nowhere. And that's what happens, unfortunately. So I think both Tessa's young enough, she's in her thirties. I think it will happen for her, where the intersection of her talent, her tenacity, the project and the money will all meet

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 30:49

here. Here's what I think. I think that you are probably right. It'll meet, but when it meets, it may not be her best work that she's gonna get.

Kathia Woods: 30:57

That part, that part

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 30:59

she's gonna get it as

Kathia Woods: 31:02

consolation wise,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 31:04

as a, what do you call it? A, an lifetime achievement Almost award, because this right here, heda, this right here. It is everything that you would want from an actress. The way in which she embodies this character, how she orchestrates the chess board of people. She just did a masterful job here and I, I. I, I feel like when Denzel got it for training day, everybody knows that Denzel should have received it for Malcolm X. Some, a couple of people argue me at that point, but I think what Denzel did in Malcolm X was so false. Oh,

Kathia Woods: 31:43

it, it was so much better. And I think he also lost to somebody that should have won for another role.'cause they gave it to him for like, also like a catchup award, right? Yeah. And I think, here's the thing I wish if I had a magic wand, I, Tessa was number one on my ballot. Yeah. I adored a performance and I voted. I know a part of me was like, I'm voting with my heart. But I said, but that's how I feel. So I'm gonna vote. I'm not gonna be strategic. But I do want people to know us being in the room helps our talent. Like Wood Harris would not have been on that ballot if it wasn't for black critics in Critics Choice. No, I can say that unequivocally.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 32:26

No. He not

Kathia Woods: 32:26

have made the cut. He wouldn't have even been thought of the show, wouldn't have been thought of, you

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 32:31

know. No, no doubt about it. Let's move on to a best supporting actor. We have Benicio Deltoro for one Battle after another. We have Jacob El Lord. I don't even know how to say his name. Where,

Kathia Woods: 32:44

where are we? Hold on. Jacob

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 32:46

el Lordy la Lordy.

Kathia Woods: 32:48

Mm-hmm.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 32:49

For Frankenstein, Paul Mezcal for Hamnet. Sean Penn for one Battle after another. Adam Sandler for j Kelly. And Ste Scars guard for sentimental value. I will tell you that. I am happy to see Adam Sandler on that list. I really am. The j Kelly wasn't my favorite movie, but Adam Sandler, he brought a really good performance here, and he can

Kathia Woods: 33:16

act. We've been saying that for years. Do not let the happy Gilmores distract you from the fact at the end of the day, he can act. Yeah. He's a, he's giving you Spanglish, he's giving you gym cuts. He's giving you this, the guy can act, he can do it straight. He doesn't have to be in the

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 33:34

costumes. I'm so happy that, so of the people, I'm so happy to see him there. Of the people who are, who's not there. Oh I'm, let me say this too. I'm very happy to see Sean Penn and Benicio del Toro on this list because they are both I now,

Kathia Woods: 33:49

every time I see Benicia del Toro, I'm gonna be thinking Bob. Right,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 33:54

right, right. But both of them were absolutely deserving. The time in which the you keep talking about the telephone gag. So the telephone gag, when he finally comes to the the telephone gag is just absolutely hilarious to me, where he's like, just give me the password. Just give me the password. I, I really like what what Leonardo had to go through on that telephone call. But Benicio, what he did in this film by being that sensei, he had this calm through the chaos, and it was so good. I'm so happy that he's there. And Sean Penn was on another level that walk, that talk, that persona that he had, he absolutely deserves to be on this list. Now, who's not on this list? Which is a shocker. And you mentioned it earlier, it's a guy who was in, let's see, what movie was that? Oh, sinners. I don't know how he didn't make I just don't understand that. He was so good. He wasn't. Okay. And so when you talk about the movie One Battle after another and they just went down the line, how come you just wouldn't go down the line for Sinner? I,

Kathia Woods: 35:19

you know, what I wanna say is they brought Ryan and Michael back out and they bought ti out for one battle after another. Warner Brothers. They needed to bring out Delroy,'cause Delroy was on the cusp. I feel like they brought out people to get in front of the people that were. Not on the cusp. Tiana was always gonna make it. Michael and Ryan were gonna make it. Delroy was on the bubble and it shows,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 35:53

And he, and it cost, he shoulda made it.

Kathia Woods: 35:55

And he needed that extra push. Again, not for you and me. We good. We don't We got you. We see you, sir. It's for those other people.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 36:04

Yeah. We're gonna do three more categories and then we'll have to reconvene.

Kathia Woods: 36:09

You see what I'm saying? The campaign, you gonna be like, okay, you can't just have Gavin Newsom and this guy here. We know everybody knows who they are. We need the guy over here in that small little county that's running for mayor of town 1, 2, 3. He needed that extra coin, that extra, you know.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 36:28

Yes. No doubt about it. No doubt about it. Let's move on to best supporting Actress, and you can take this one. Who do we have nominated?

Kathia Woods: 36:36

Well. This one is pretty much one surprise, right? L fanning. That is a surprise for me. It's a sentimental value. Ariana Grande, Inga ip, Lillia, sentimental value. Really got a lot of love. That's probably, those are my two. Amy Madigan for weapons. Wmi for Sinners, very happy about that. And then Tiana Taylor. Now I will say this, I'm going to, I don't like to predict the whole thing. I like to pick one or two. I think as much as people like to push out Ariana Grande, I feel like Warner's is gonna win that race. I think Warner's is gonna win that race. I just feel like they have the wind beneath their sail right now. And I, in my mind. Even though all this stuff is going on, on the business end, they got the coins in the coffin and they got the soldiers to get it done. Yeah. So let, we're gonna circle back, especially if she makes the cut on Monday.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 37:49

If who makes the cut?

Kathia Woods: 37:51

Tiana, I think this, yeah,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 37:53

I think Tiana

Kathia Woods: 37:54

to me feels like

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 37:55

a, a front runner. She feels like a front runner.

Kathia Woods: 37:57

Yes. I will tell you her race to win. And also the other thing too is, here's the thing. People that don't know her, don't know her work when they meet her, she's so infectious. And also people, you know, they're a little bit more, how can I put it? They're a little bit more giving with our girls in the supporting category.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 38:23

Yeah. Oh, it's always the case. I will tell you this, is that if ee were to win, it wouldn't be like, no, they gave it to her because without her, in that movie I said this to Ryan and Michael, I said, the James Brown lyric is, it's a man's world, but it wouldn't be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl. And Ryan was like, you ain't never said, you ain't never said nothing right there, because without the women in this film, and they particularly referenced NIE and her performance that everybody looked to her for the strength, for the direction, for all of that. So I think Taylor. Could be a front runner here but man, ley, she was fantastic.

Kathia Woods: 39:17

I just think she is another one of those actresses because she's so good in everything. People too think, oh she's just, she's out here just getting all these offers. And I also love that she talked about being seven months postpartum when she made this movie. And I'm like, girl, you had your women's body you look beautiful. You know? And I'm like, girl, I can't say that though. I said, we all go, we, I said, we all going through stuff after we have a baby, right? And the fact that you be on screen, I said, who are we? I said, difference is we hide out in the house, Brielle. I said, we hide out in the house. You know what I mean? And I just, I think she's stunning. I think she's stunning, but I can't say that. Right.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 40:01

I can't, I I can't say that.

Kathia Woods: 40:03

I mean, listen, that's between you and Donna. But I, she's stunning. And I think she is beyond talented,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 40:11

be beyond just,

Kathia Woods: 40:13

and then, like I said, it's, Emma would not be mad that night. She gets up there and she gets Tink T Award. And I think Tiana too. But I love this for Tiana, because you know what? People try to play in that lady's face. People try to play with her. People try to say that she wasn't a real deal, holy field. And with her music, everything came later. But she also said she's glad it's happening now because she appreciates it more.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 40:38

Yeah. I love the fact that you said she's glad

Kathia Woods: 40:39

and she said she's glad she's the most. In my conversation with her, she said what she's most proud of is that her daughters. And then that kind of, that hit home for me. It hits different when your daughter say, mommy, you did a good job.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 40:55

Yeah. I'm glad you said the real deal, Holyfield, because she's a fighter right there. That's what I'm gonna say. Yeah, she's,

Kathia Woods: 41:01

and you know what? This award thing, you see some people, you're like, Ugh, dude. You know what I mean? They just feel like, it looks, they look like their teeth are being pulled, and I really wanna be like, I hope, and she is the opposite. She's having fun with it. She's having a good time. She

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 41:22

is having fun with it. When I did a Zoom call or interview with her, and girl was relaxed. She was laying back. She wasn't even sit, she wasn't even sitting up. She was like, look, let me tell you how I think about this film. So that was great. I wanna get through two more categories before we, we wrap up. And the two categories is the best. Young actor, actress. I like the fact that as a organization, we do that one and we have Everett Blanc from the plague. Miles, Caton for sinners. Carrie Christopher for weapons. Shannon Mahena Gorman for rental family. Jacoby Jew for Hamnet and ye for left-handed Girl. I have a feeling you are gonna want it to be Nee Knee. Ye, but I will tell you that I love what Miles did I, the fact that he came, I'm gonna be honest

Kathia Woods: 42:15

with you, you got me a little wrong in this one.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 42:18

I love what he did, but Jacob j that was one of my choices right there. Jacob Jew. What he did at Hamnet I was mesmerized by what was done there. So my two would be Jacob Ju and Miles Katon. And I loved what Jacob Ju did in him.

Kathia Woods: 42:42

Did you do what I did? You, we had to start Googling people's ages. Well, the kids are obvious. I did. I did. But when you're like, is it a teenager? Is it this, is it that? When I just tell you what, the first thing I put down was Miles. As soon as I learned he was 20. Done 20. Because the other two were easy. They were kids. But I was like, miles and here. Done.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 43:07

I only have one last category that I want to get in. Get in with you. And I'm gonna let you read off the nominees for that one. And that's for best director.

Kathia Woods: 43:16

Okay. Not surprised. But Paul Thomas Anderson from Bomb Bed after to another Ryan K for Sinners. Gilead Mototo for Frankenstein. Little surprised by this Josh Ty for Marty Supreme, but the Wright Ty brother got nominated. Joaquin Tri for Sentimental Value and Chloe Z for Hamnet. Not Surprised by Chloe. Surprised by Joaquin. And, but I also do, but I do think the right Ty brother got it. Yes.'cause we, you know, somebody ha I said it yesterday and somebody got mad at me. They said, oh, they're predicting that The Rock. I had a lovely chat with the Rock and he is always gracious and always loving. But sir, in a year where we had the male performances that we had, and if you didn't start including some of these smaller films, you start including foreign films. It was a hard road for the Rockstar. I don't see it. I can see him maybe slipping in for Golden Globes'cause they have six two and they have com You know what I mean? They have Yes, yes. Visible stuff. But baby this was a, this would probably, it probably would've been easier for him to stand out there and on the highway in LA make traffic stop. Because this was just a uphill road.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 44:31

I wanna ask you about two films and both of them are about women. Obviously this not here for best director is neither the Costa and then the Man, now I'm blanking out on the Netflix film with Idris.

Kathia Woods: 44:46

What? Netflix. Oh, you're talking about House of Dynamite.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 44:49

H. House of Dynamite. So thoughts on only one woman director being a nominated here. And I'm not saying like we always have to have a woman.

Kathia Woods: 45:01

No, no. I think half Bigelow, if the movie would've been received better, probably would've slid in there. But, you know, it's tough. It's tough, tough, tough. I think this is her win. She's won before Glory. This is her nod. She's not gonna win. I think it's amongst the boys. It's between Ryan and Paul. I will say also this,'cause since I'm feeling predictable today, Ryan Kogler is going to win an Academy Award. I'm gonna say he, it may not be in Best Director, but he's going to walk away that night with his First Academy Award and it may be for best original screenplay.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 45:40

All right, we got it. Now there are categories we did not get through. We will come back, we will talk about more. There's best original screenplay, adaptive Screenplay. Best Casting Ensemble. Best Cinematography. All of those categories. And I know there are important, but we are not gonna put it all in one show. So just hold. No,

Kathia Woods: 46:01

no. But I think it's okay. So what surprised you to mouth, let me ask you that.'cause you always ask me stuff. So this morning when you got the thing in the email, right? And you looked down, were you like, oh, or were you like, oh. I was like, oh, I thought it was gonna be the honoraria. I'll let you go first. What did you, what surprised you the most?

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 46:25

I was like, oh, because I've already said this to you. Heda for me has to be in this, in these nominations somewhere, somewhere. If you don't have best picture, you have to have best actress. If you don't have best actress, then you have to have best director there. I just don't see how the, this header gets shut out. Yes, shut out. There's not a nomination for that movie, and our job is to compare movies. It's tough sometimes because they're different. Subject matter, different time periods, different pacing, different ways of looking at it. Sometimes it's comedy, sometimes it's drama. And so I understand why some of the other organizations have a drama category and a comedy category. So it is tough to do this, but it's not tough for me to say the head, it should have been in here. And when I looked all the way up and down the list. And when I looked up and down the list and did not see Heda, I was like, huh, for real.

Kathia Woods: 47:31

I knew it was in a bubble. We'll get it at afca, we'll get it at the image awards. We'll get it at these other things. But let's circle back. Let's take Heda off the table for a minute. What did you think in terms of like the big boys? Did you think it went, it was gonna go the way it went?

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 47:53

I think you brought up a really good point about the machine helping somebody like a Tessa Thompson. And when I saw, because let me say this. When I saw the list for Best Picture, the first thing I did is say Uhhuh. These are the pictures that Variety listed as most of these pictures are the movies that variety listed as the front runners, the campaigns that these organizations had. So Begonia, I was not surprised that it was there because they had a campaign. Frankenstein not surprised that it was there. There was a campaign Hamnet. I wasn't surprised that it was there. Firstly, I liked it. But secondly, you were ratting and raving about it coming out of Tiff. Reggie, you gotta go see Hamnet. You need to see Hamnet j Kelly. I like this movie, but did I think that this was the Oscar level movie? I did not. I don't think Who,

Kathia Woods: 49:00

we didn't talk about two, I'm sorry to interrupt you. The Brad Bradley Cooper movie really was like people gave that no luck.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 49:09

And I don't understand that, in fact, because maybe because I'm married this film spoke to me. I really liked what Laura dur, by the way, what she did in this one and how she played off of Adam Sandler and j Kelly. She had two movies out there that she did a really good job. I'm like, Laura, go ahead girl. I'm, I really like what she did there. So you're right. Is this thing on, but because there's two of these films that I haven't seen, that's why I didn't wanna say what films didn't belong there. So when once I watch these other two films, I'll be better prepared to say, yeah, is this thing on should have been here before? Sentimental value.

Kathia Woods: 49:49

I will say this to you. This is what I thought. One battle after another was gonna get more than sinners. When I saw that sinners got the most and don't get it twisted. The below the line. I keep saying this to people. Movie making is a team sport. Everything gotta be considered. The below the line I feel really helped the above the line. Now I'm not talking about actor, I'm not talking about best supporting. I'm talking about like some of these in between. That's a good thing. So now it's got some wind beneath its sail. The Warner Brothers team can't take their foot off the gas. They gotta make these calls this weekend as Golden Globes does. You know what I mean? And where it gets a little sag when it comes to movies like Sinner Sag is the one that throws a little loop in there, right? Remember they didn't nominate Regina King, but Fred, not black people. Remember I told y'all we, she's still gonna win. And she did win Oscar Knight. But I do think, and I said this before, best picture is still one is gonna be in-house. Warner Brothers is, I hope they have a cute little competition going on. The two different awards team within Warner Brothers. Somebody, whoever wins best picture gotta pick up dinner or something like that, right? Or gets to have bragging rights or whatever they wanna call it. I have no doubt on Oscar Knight it is going to be a Warner Brothers picture. It just will be like, who? As night is going Right, which is kind of, it's gotta be like a fun little thing for them. I feel like Frankenstein is probably out of all Netflix offerings their best. But I think right now with this purchase of Warner Brothers, there's something about Netflix and people think Netflix is so anti theaters. I don't think they're gonna give it to Netflix. I don't, I think it's gonna be a long time, especially with this, before they give Netflix best picture. I even within CAI don't see it. They, they think, I think, you know, it's not, the problem with Netflix is not that they don't put out good movies, they put out good movies. It's just there is, they gotta do some hands across America. They gotta get some people who. You know what I mean? They gotta have a come to Jesus with some people. But I think this is warn those brothers game to win. And I also, like I said, is this morning I look sinners is leading the pack. I'm not mad at that, but I thought it was gonna be one bad off than the other.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 52:31

Well, I will say this I will say this as I, as my closing comment for this SEC segment is that ne Netflix is gonna win any way it is now with that purchase. And it was really funny when we were gonna talk about our next segment, rent and Rave, but I'm gonna skip it just because we've gone a little bit over time. I was gonna talk about that purchase for.

Kathia Woods: 52:53

I think we need to talk about it. I think we do need to add this on because here's the thing, somebody said it too, like, you know, we all peak at social media. Somebody said, well, Netflix finally won. Its bought itself a best picture win. Right? But I don't think they want it that way.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 53:07

No. I don't think they want it that way. Oh, absolutely.

Kathia Woods: 53:10

They want it in-house. They want it to be one of their nuts, the bolts. They don't wanna, oh, we, we got it. You inherited your dad's gold medal because he left it to you in the will. Like that's not yours. I mean, yeah, it's yours, but it's not yours. You didn't earn

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 53:25

it. It's true. It is true. And I will tell you, I always want to earn my championship trophy, however. If I some kinda way become the owner of the Los Angeles Lakers and I get one of those rings. I'm gonna wear that ring. That's all I'm gonna say. I know

Kathia Woods: 53:42

you would, Reggie, you would probably not only wear the ring, but you probably would have a matching little necklace and that would be on your chest and you would be like, when you speak to me, recognize,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 53:54

recognize.'cause I have one of those rings. But I agree with you. I do think that they didn't wanna win it or don't wanna win it that way, but I just think that they're run up against some stronger competition. What centers and one battle after another. And it's crazy when you look at a movie like one battle after another because it's a frenetic, crazy, kinda wild out there movie and. It's just not your traditional movie fair. And that also can be said of sinners. The fact that Warner Brothers took a chance on two movies that are so kind of different. It's kudos to them. Kudos.

Kathia Woods: 54:37

I also think that the worry, and I get it right, is we, there won't be movies like Sinners and one Battle of Another. These are two original ips that made a lot of money at the box office. I always say Wicked was, we knew it was gonna make money. It had the cheat code, it has a 20 year commercial going around, around the country, around the globe and on Broadway right now. That is work that people know. It's like the Lion King. Lion King's always gonna make money. We've grown up with that. And that's nothing to take away with the people associated with the movie. No,

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 55:12

no.

Kathia Woods: 55:12

But you had a winning product. It wasn't like you came out of nowhere. Whereas I feel like in terms of musicals, we always knew Kids of a Spider Moron's road was always gonna be harder because it's not as well known of a musical. It's not as well liked of a musical. That's right, that's right. So you have a bigger be. Same thing with West Side Story. This is something that's love. People know the song. People may not like every part of it, your little heads up popping. I'm

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 55:36

just thinking we gonna have a rumble tonight. That's all I'm thinking about. I'm, I know, but I'm saying

Kathia Woods: 55:39

to you is, so you have these things, but I feel like I do understand people's concern. I also, and I wanna hear your thoughts on this'cause,'cause you know you are my friend and you're gonna tell me the truth. I feel like sometimes when people are so fixated on the theater experience they're talking about seeing the thing on the big screen, and maybe I'm bougie girl over here, but to me the theater experience is gas. I gotta put in my car. Is it worth it for me to go to said theater only to have my feet sticking to the floor, having these stale ass pretzel bites that aren't really good, but that godawful cheese is, it doesn't make any sense that I'm paying$7 for gummy bears when I know I can get'em a target for three. I am not, does not mix part, then I'm not. This is before I even sit in my seat that I got to select. But then when I try to lean back, thing is broken. I can't lean back. The heat thing isn't working right. So to me it's like we have forgotten that the experience, you can't keep charging people, in other words,$30 and say you are paying for the thing on the screen, but my guy, I can't enjoy it'cause my chair is broken. Or in some cases I've been in movies, a little friend ran across the thing. So now I'm really paranoid. So I'm saying all of this to say, Reggie. Where, and people are like we're sad for the distributors, but what has happened, in my opinion, the prices have gone up. I get it, inflation, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But what are you doing to make people feel like they, the harder money that they spent on this, for a family of four, which can run anywhere from between a buck 50 to 200, depending on where you're seeing it, but what are you doing to have people say, you know what? I not only enjoyed the movie, but I felt welcomed in.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 57:39

Okay. I think two things can be right at the same time, you are not wrong about there being a need to elevate the overall experience. However, the other people who are saying this needs to be seen on the big screen. They're not wrong either. There are just some movies that just don't hit the same way Sinners. I watched it at home. I watched it twice in the movie theater, and it hits differently. I agree. It's, it is such a sensory experience watching that movie on the big screen and actually one battle after another does too. When I'm watching out on the big screen, that little car chase scene on the big screen, it just hits differently. So I understand when people say you have to see this movie on the big screen, and in fact, I prefer a many of the times to see movies on the big screen. I don't think you need to see j Kelly on the big screen. I don't

Kathia Woods: 58:45

think so. I think there's some movies because we are getting away from Romcom studios producing. For theater release Romcoms. I also think if we're really about that life of wanting to preserve the theater experience, a MC and Regal and all them folks, you need to get it together.'cause some of your theaters are shabby. It's, you all have, it's true. Some of these theaters, some of these bathrooms are looking a hot mess that's got nothing to do with Netflix or stay at home. Right? It, it does, it does not like you be able to take your baby to the bathroom and not be like, well in second thought, can you hold it until you get home?'cause this is a crap show. But at the same token, what streamers are doing is the romcoms, those international films. They're also taken, for instance, for a MC plus. A lot of those shows like Dark Winds, gangs of London interview with a vampire because people are not subscribed and not willing to pay for a MC. A whole new audience once they hit the Netflix platform is supporting and getting to see these shows and therefore extending the shelf life. I and again, we also have to understand as much as we are a little biased,'cause we do get to go to movies for free, but at the same token, how many times have we seen something that we got to see for free? Now let's take sinners and one bat off another off the table. But a lot of stuff we've seen lately we're like, if I had to pay for this, I'm not too sure I would.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:00:11

No absolutely. But I think that's just because of the shift in viewing habits Yeah. Is that I would stay at home with Donna to watch is this thing on because I feel like it's a personal movie that she and I could sink into together that we don't need the crowd and all the people to see it. I think that's sad that I would say that because those types of movies. There is a crowd aspect to them that you miss when you're walking out of the theater and you're hearing people saying stuff like, no, if I was her, I wouldn't do that. And if I was him, I wouldn't have got back with, yeah. There, there is that discussion that happens and part of that discussion happens in the theater as we're talking back to the screen and saying, Uhuh, girl, that ain't the right thing. I don't know why you going back with him. The theater experience is more than the seat, the sticky floor, the little rat that runs over your foot. That would make me scared when I'm watching Sinner because I jumped up, I jumped 15 times when I was watching Sinner. By the way, I knew somebody was gonna bite somebody in the neck. Why? Why did we have to have that? No. I just think two things can be true at the same time, these theaters do need to up their game also. It is so much fun to watch a movie in the theater. Now I'm coming to Atlanta soon. I will not be seeing you when I'm there'cause I got a lot of things, a lot of people to see, a lot of places to go. But if you could hurry up and build your home theater so that next time I'm there, Donna and I will come and share a evening of movies with you.

Kathia Woods: 1:02:06

But I also, I do like the fact right. And I, because also you and I are of that generation where we all know who the first family that got a color TV or when your family got a color tv. Right. A big deal. It was right. Big deal.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:02:23

Big deal. Or

Kathia Woods: 1:02:23

if you were friends with the people that got the first color tv. I remember that Sony TV that we got, the remote was a little smaller too. And what happened, I do remember if you were friends, you were like, Ooh, you prob for you Reggie, you probably go, Ooh, I get to see the game and color. I get to actually see the uniform, the shorts, the sneaks and all this other stuff. A lot of our first impression of movies that we love, were not necessarily the movie theater. So I hate when people go that are That's true. I was like those cowboy and Indian movies we did not see in a movie theater. Stop it. You saw that on the color tv, on the black white TV at your grandparents' house because you had no say in what was getting seen on the tv. So you either watched what they were watching or you went outside. No, it's true and I feel like streaming is like the new version. If it introduces people to some films that they would've otherwise not seen, I do think it's not an either or, but I agree that what sinners and one battle after another shown, there is an audience out there for good keyword, good, bold, for good original thoughts for movies that aren't, fast nefarious 3000.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:03:35

We're gonna have to leave it at that. I agree. You will leave it at that. We actually did our segment rent and rave.'cause you saw us Rent and Raven and even though we didn't say we were doing that, so No, but

Kathia Woods: 1:03:45

I always wanna know what your thoughts are on that because we are of a similar age and when I said color TV, I didn't have to go into the whole Google explanation. You immediately understood what I was saying.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:03:56

I did. I did. I think ours was a zenith, but anyway, we gonna have to get outta here. I wanna thank you guys for checking us out. Katia. Where can people check out all the stuff that you've been doing? Because that red carpet stuff, I know you got a lot of stuff out there. So where can people check you out?

Kathia Woods: 1:04:11

You can see the red carpet stuff at the Critic Choice Latin Cinema. Instagram. Oh, dear God. You can read my work at the Philadelphia Tribune. You can also read it at the Sacramento Observer as well as see some of my videos. And if for everything else you can go to cuppa soul show.com, what we have in ourselves a good old time. And I really wanna take this opportunity and thank everybody's been watching the YouTube channel. We are about to have another video, another interview of mine to go to 30 K views. And that is insane. That is, and we've had like three videos this month that went over between last month and this month we're finishing our strong that are over 15 K. And also, wanna thank you all, we have an additional 300 subscribers. So y'all rock. Thank you for rocking

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:04:59

me. Oh that's fantastic. We'll get this up this weekend so we won't be so late.

Kathia Woods: 1:05:04

and I'll let y'all know if Reggie. We'll rendezvous and check if Reggie is gonna be Hollywood on Tuesday.

Reggie Ponder, The Reel Critic: 1:05:10

I'm gonna do something. I'm gonna do something. You could check me out@indigo.com, sometimes at the Chicago Sun times@vocalo.org and other places that you can find Reggie Ponder hat. And with that, we're gonna say we'll see you guys next time. We're out

Kathia Woods: 1:05:28

you next time. Bye bye.