Courage and Confidence

Joining the Dots

Lee Iggulden & Michelle Rogers Season 3 Episode 10

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SHOW NOTES

In this episode, Lee and Michelle turn an unplanned recording slot into a surprisingly rich conversation about trusting the process of life.

The discussion kicks off with a quote from Steve Jobs’ 2005 commencement address at Stanford:

"You can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards, so you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future."

That idea sparks a wide-ranging conversation covering:

  • The difference between gut instinct and impulsiveness, and why Lee has learned to pause before engaging her mouth
  • How ADHD shapes Lee's natural enthusiasm and decisiveness, and what she is learning about tempering that with reflection
  • Soren Kierkegaard's complementary thought: "Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards"
  • How Lee and Michelle approach risk very differently, and why that contrast makes them a stronger team
  • The role of courage in making decisions that are not permanent, and being willing to pivot when something does not work
  • How Lee's business, Welshot, navigated the pandemic with no proper internet connection, running Zoom photography lessons off a mobile hotspot from home
  • Why looking back at past decisions with a positive lens can build the neurological confidence to make bold decisions in the future
  • A little detour into growing potatoes in tubs, subscription gardening boxes, and new potatoes at Christmas in New Zealand

Michelle also sets listeners a small piece of homework: think of a time when something unexpected happened and you had to change course. Can you look back now and see how the pieces fell into place? And does that give you more courage for whatever is unfolding right now?

Quotes mentioned:

  • Steve Jobs on connecting the dots
  • Soren Kierkegaard on living life forwards
  • Marie Forleo: "Everything is figureoutable"

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