Tinfoil Theories: Moon Landings, Hollow Earth, and Simulated Reality

Step into the shadows with us as we explore the conspiracy theories that keep true believers awake at night and skeptics endlessly fascinated. From the chilling possibility that Stanley Kubrick orchestrated the greatest cinematic deception in history by faking the Apollo moon landing to the unsettling evidence suggesting our lunar companion might be hollow or artificially constructed.

Ever wondered why our moon behaves unlike any other celestial body? We examine ancient myths claiming there was once a time before the moon, scientific anomalies in lunar composition, and the perfect positioning that makes life on Earth possible. Could it be an observation station placed by extraterrestrials millions of years ago?

Venture beneath the surface as we descend into hollow Earth theory, where some believe an entire civilization called Agartha exists in vast underground networks, accessible through hidden entrances at the poles and specific mountain ranges. While seismic data contradicts these claims, the persistent stories of Admiral Richard Byrd's supposed journey into an inner world continue to captivate imaginations.

The strangest conspiracies often hide in plain sight – like Denver International Airport's collection of disturbing features. From the demonic blue horse statue with glowing red eyes that killed its creator to apocalyptic murals and rumors of underground bunkers for the global elite, this airport seems deliberately designed to provoke questions.

Perhaps most unsettling is simulation theory, the philosophical notion that our reality is nothing more than an elaborate computer program. When unexplained phenomena like déjà vu, the Mandela Effect, and the feeling of being watched are reframed as program glitches, even the most rational minds might pause to wonder if we're living in a cosmic version of GTA orchestrated by entities beyond our comprehension.

Whether you're a dedicated conspiracy theorist or a curious skeptic, this episode reminds us that asking questions – even outlandish ones – keeps us engaged with the mysteries of our existence. After all, as host Becca suggests, sometimes giving the moon a knowing wink is the closest we'll get to uncovering the truth.

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Disclaimer and Tinfoil Hat Introduction

Speaker 1 0:21

Before we begin today's episode of the Black Curtain Club podcast, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own personal capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.

Speaker 2 0:46

Hi everyone, welcome to the Black Curtain Club podcast. Before you get too comfortable, I'm going to need you to go into the kitchen, open up the drawer and get your tinfoil. Go ahead, start making your little hat. I'm going to tell the crew what I'm going to put them through today. First of all, I'm your host, becca, and joining me are my buddies, angie and Kyle. How are you guys doing today? I'm doing fine. Somebody's making a tinfoil hat. He's making it real. What's it? Look, kyle? Okay, I'm good, let's do this perfect you know what I'm?

Speaker 4 1:35

I'm just gonna do it. I bet you anything. He is sitting in there with a fucking piece of tin foil on his head he's dedicated.

Speaker 2 1:44

That's why so today's episode, now that kyle is prepared, see, he's smart. His brain's gonna be protected. Angie, you are fucked.

Speaker 2 1:55

Today's episode is an exercise in eccentricity and a deep dive into my personal favorite conspiracy theories. By the end I'm hoping one of these brainy buttheads can guess which one of these theories keeps me up at night. So today we have a few pretty wild conspiracy theories. The first one why do only 50% of the Black Curtain Club podcast members actually listen to the Black Curtain Club podcast? The second one one, two theories about our planet's moon that people want to know is the moon hollow and is there a possibility that the apollo moon landing was faked? Another one is hollow earth.

Speaker 4 2:37

Yes, wait a minute, I just we need to go back to that first one, okay? Yeah, I know what I yeah, I know where I sit in that 50% Kyle where do you sit in? That 50%.

Speaker 3 2:52

No, I realized that I was on mute because constructing the Just check your Instagram Does it only count. Do I have to listen to all of the episodes? Because I know I haven't listened to all of them.

Speaker 2 3:01

You know, at least you've listened to some yeah, all the ones that I'm one one yeah no, I'm kidding, all right so we're talking about? We're talking about conspiracy theories, talking about moon madness. We're talking about is the apollo mission fake? Is the moon hollow? It's fucking idiot. Okay, you know what? Let me go look at this picture. Why not? That better be the one we use oh my god, the little kiss at the top is so perfect oh, that's the one on the episode cover.

Speaker 4 3:44

I swear to god it has to, that's the thumbnail it's fucking better. All right, that is the thumbnail. There's enough room. Yeah, let's go ahead, all right. Okay, I'm muting two moon ones.

Speaker 2 4:02

Is the earth hollow, dirty dia and simulated sims, wrapping up the wildly popular theory that life itself is a simulated reality that we are all trapped in. What do you think, guys? Are we ready to dive in?

Speaker 2 4:15

yeah, okay we're good, so we're gonna start with fake moon landing. This is just gonna start off with the theory that the apollo 11 moon landing mission in the 60s was simply a hoax. The experts on this guys okay, the experts on this supposed bluff has cited several sources of compelling evidence to back this claim up. If we think about the timing russia being hot on the heels in the space race, it makes sense to me that we would fudge the numbers a little bit. That being said, if it is true, it's kind of messed up that the entire crew and launch team dedicated so much of themselves to this giant leap for mankind, just to be told by some armchair detectives that they're lying. The thing that makes me stop in my tracks and take off my tinfoil hat is the undeniable fact that if the moon landing were faked by NASA, then 400,000 people would have had to work together to cover it up, and if you know people like I do, this is harder to swallow than a weather balloon. So why do they think it's fake? It's mostly the pictures, and that's what most of the theories boil down to.

Speaker 2 5:25

One of the things we're going to touch on are the shadows in the images that the NASA published of the landing itself. In these photographs, it's evident that the shadows of the astronaut, the flags and the scenery are not parallel, suggesting there might be more than one light source. This is problematic because the sun should be the only light source. If I'm looking, I can see what they're talking about and it makes me wonder, but I'm honestly not a fucking scientist. I don't know how light works on Earth, right? I'm not going to pretend this proves anything about the moon. What the experts say is that, because of perspective, parallel lines appear to be non-parallel. If you're trying to reduce on a two-dimensional plane a three-dimensional situation, you can make lines do all sorts of weird things. Basically, in terms I can understand, this is just a trick of perspective. The angle of the video and the photographs and the shadows are just a naturally occurring effect on the way light wraps around the object, throwing the shadow.

Speaker 2 6:20

So you guys have seen, like the pictures of the moon landing, right, I guess I should ask that, like you've just seen, like the guy, the flag, you know the rocks like oh, this is what it looks like, okay, good.

Speaker 2 6:32

Another thing that people like to point out is that there aren't any stars in the pictures, and people think like, if this is really space, why are there no stars in the background? Again, they are right, there aren't any stars. But if I try to take a picture with my iphone in 2025, even I have trouble capturing the stars and the moon and what they actually look like. And this was the dawn of time. Okay, we're talking like I love lucy andy griffith show era. The video quality alone, I think, can excuse this. Um one second. Can you stop? Sorry, hp decided to take over my shit. They're trying to silence me already already like listen bitch the next two are visual, just bear with me.

Speaker 2 7:19

This one is about the background of the photos. Um, it claims that there are identical backgrounds in some of the pictures, that it claims that there are identical backgrounds in some of the pictures that were allegedly taken miles apart. This suggested that either a painted background was used or a family picture at JCPenney. Only it's Neil Armstrong and his buddies having a laugh. They've just got backdrop down. So the experts say they look similar, but they're not identical. What appears as hills in some photos are actually mountains many miles away on earth. Objects that are farther away will appear fainter and less detailed. On the moon, there's no atmosphere or haze to obscure faraway objects. And the next one is the one that always gets me is the flag oh god, the fucking flag.

Speaker 2 8:03

The flag yeah, I find myself leaning towards the dark side with this one when I see the videos and the pictures of the flag. The theorists think that it was waving as if there was a breeze, and the awkwardness of the way that it just stiffly flops there is what makes weirdos like me so feral. Like, look me in the eye and tell me that was the way to go about planting a flag. They just made it needlessly performative and give us room to scoff. So they say we put this flag on an l-shaped rod. Okay, they thought it would look unimpressive if it just kind of hung, limply, flaccid, just it wouldn't look very america. So they're like, yeah, we use an l-shaped rod to make it look better, sue us. So it did seem to flutter. But they're saying, yeah, we use an L-shaped rod to make it look better, sue us, so it did seem to flutter.

Speaker 2 8:46

But they're saying that it was the astronauts moving it into position and there was no air drag. So these movements caused the free corner of the flag to swing like a pendulum. There were some creases in it from where it was like stored between Earth and actually getting on the moon to be planted. The videos show that when they let go of the flagpole. It vibrates, but then it stills again. So they're saying like yeah, it looks like it's waving in the breeze. It looks stupid, yeah, but it's just an l-shaped rod. And then putting it down, I don't know. What do you guys think about the moon landing? Do you believe?

Speaker 3 9:17

oh christ, how much time do we have on this episode?

Speaker 4 9:24

I'm really excited to talk about this because there's there's the. The whole theory about how it was was filmed by none other than stanley kubrick, which we touched on this in another episode. So I actually did a deep dive on the theory that there are very specific things in the shining that was like kubrick's little easter egg trail that he actually was the orchestrator of the whole moon landing um video. So you guys ready to hear some of this?

Speaker 2 10:07

yes, I don't have my tinfoil hat on, but I do have my vape and I feel very secure I'll probably have questions after.

Speaker 4 10:14

Yes, okay, so one of the first things is danny's apollo 11 sweater. So Danny, the you know, the child in the shining was wearing a handmade knit sweater that featured the Apollo 11 rocket and it is absolutely like. This isn't random, it's front and center like multiple shots, you know, and here's, here's the thing. Like Stanley Kubrick in that whole film paid attention so much to detail, this wasn't just like a um, like a flash in the pan or just some kind of um, you know, wardrobe decision, like there was even not really related to this, but I, like I saw recently, like even the tie that Jack wore was a mirror image of the maze, like everything. Everything in this film was specifically placed there by Kubrick. So the fact that this Apollo 11 rocket on this sweater that was so prominent a lot of people say that Danny kind of represented Kubrick, that he was basically being manipulated into launching Apollo 11 into the public consciousness. The other thing was that with the room 237. So in Stephen King's book the haunted room was actually room 217, but Kubrick changed it to 237 for the film. Why did he do that? So the average distance from the Earth to the moon is approximately 237 miles. Well, that's what was known in the 1970s. We now know that modern science it's like 238,855 miles, but back then it was kind of known 237,000 miles.

Speaker 4 12:22

There was the carpet pattern. There was a hexagonal carpet shape in the Overlook Hotel where Danny is playing in the hallway. People say that that is the exact layout of the Apollo 11 launch pads at Kennedy Space Center. So this was the scene where Danny is playing with the toy cars on the carpet. And the way that Danny is playing with the toy cars on the carpet and the way that he's playing with the cars, it looks exactly like a rocket launching.

Speaker 4 12:54

So Jack has writer's block. So Jack Torrance, he's the dad. Jack Nicholson is said to represent Kubrick himself in this theory that he's a man that's trapped in a project that he hates. He's being manipulated, driven insane by the Overlook Hotel, which is kind of a metaphor for the US government or shadow institutions. And then Jack has this breakdown, which is Kubrick's internal torment after completing the moon footage and being forced into silence. The phrase all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. So there was like thousands of pages being typed robotically and people say that this is Kubrick who was like working endlessly, tirelessly, on faking the moon landing and this was just kind of like an expression of himself kind of undertaking this robotic, soul, dreaded, trapped thing that he found himself into there was the ghost party.

Speaker 4 14:00

The 1920s ballroom party. 19. The 1920s ballroom party. Jack sees a mirror, um and um, it says, out of time, which is kind of a fake memory implanted into reality. And some say this is kubrick's commentary on how fabricated memories aka the moon landing are accepted into public consciousness. Without question, there's allman in the briefcase. So there's the manager of the Overlook, stuart Ullman, who is the person who hires. Jack was kind of the metaphor for a government handler. So Stuart Ullman was slick, smiling, harmless and yet clearly holding back secrets. In one scene he carries a bright, red, perfectly square briefcase. So this kind of symbolizes the contract or the binding agreement that Kubrick had with the government.

Speaker 4 14:52

The Overlook Hotel was built on Native American burial ground and some see this as a symbol for how the US government built its modern myths, including Apollo 11, atop old blood and old lies. Oh, so this goes deep? Yeah, so it really does. Yeah, but you know, like I said, kubrick was obsessed with this layered symbolism. He painstakingly composed every single frame. He was one of the few directors that was technically capable of creating hyper-realistic effects needed for the for this moon broadcast. This was coming off of his 2001 a space odyssey film, where he forgot about that demonstrated the, the photorealistic outer space imagery, and this was way before Apollo 11 even happened.

Speaker 4 15:46

Um, so, you know, is this just a coded confession from Kruber that he faked the moon landing? You know, was he trying to confess in this film and this was the only way that he could kind of tell people without telling people like, hey, I did this, so I'll shut up about that I love that movie if I were to say one thing, it's that I could absolutely okay.

Speaker 2 16:15

First of all, like, yeah, he did space odyssey. We know he's capable. We also know that he's very inclined to sell out, and I could also see him being kind of frustrated that he didn't get any credit for it, because he might have thought I did such a good fucking job. So I could totally see him being petty and being like I'm just gonna like layer these little easter eggs in here. The government could sweat it out.

Speaker 4 16:37

But technically I didn't say anything, I just made a ghost movie, right spooky yeah, I mean, was one of our greatest achievements actually built on one of our greatest lies? That's definitely the question, right?

Speaker 3 16:50

oh that's a question. For sure it's formatted, it would be accepted on jeopardy yeah, I like that.

Speaker 4 17:01

It's a question.

Speaker 3 17:03

My thing with this one is when were accusations against Kubrick first made? Like? When were the first people to say Stanley Kubrick did?

Speaker 2 17:18

it. So you're asking if people believe it because of the Shining or if they believed it before.

Speaker 3 17:24

If they believed it before and if they believed it before. If people believed it before and kubrick put all that apollo stuff in there just to be a cheeky bastard like this is going to drive these people nuts because they think I did this when I didn't do it you know what I mean, because I'm a firm believer in if you're hell-bent on something and you're looking for patterns, you, you're going to fucking find them.

Speaker 3 17:47

Simple as that. I'm neither here nor there. On the whole Kubrick thing, kind of like, we said I'm not a fucking scientist, I don't know how light works on Earth, and so on and so forth. I wasn't there, I don't know all that kind of fun stuff, but I'm completely in the middle. I need facts supporting both sides. So if it was people, is it just people looking for patterns and they just happened to find some years and years later because they were fucking looking for them, or you know what I mean? I'm trying.

Speaker 2 18:21

I will say buzz aldrin did punch a moon landing denier in the face.

Speaker 3 18:27

That is my favorite, favorite clip I've ever seen, while watching an episode about conspiracy theories. But I'm gonna be completely honest. I'm assuming you've seen it.

Speaker 2 18:36

I would have punched the man in the fucking face if I was if I, if I was the guy next to buzz aldrin, I'd have punched the guy in the fucking face and, honestly, like I've, seen interviews with buzz aldrin, things like, have punched the guy in the fucking face and, honestly, like I've seen interviews with buzz aldrin, things like that, such a sweet fucking man, like if I wanted to believe anybody in the world, I want to believe in buzz aldrin. So that's the moon landing. Hard for me to like say one way or the other. I do believe the government would lie to us, I think that nasa would lie to us. I think that we have been to the moon. Did we go? Then? I can't say I'm not a fucking scientist, I wasn't alive then, I didn't see it on tv you know it's not part of my culture, it's part of my history oh, that's a good.

Speaker 3 19:13

Oh, can I get that on a t-shirt please?

Speaker 2 19:15

but it could be chills kyle, that was pretty. I don't know about chills, but that was good did it move.

Speaker 3 19:20

That was solid.

Speaker 4 19:21

That was a good one um, it's just like that was a good turn of the place but like that's, that's just.

Speaker 3 19:27

I guess that's my question. He goes like did it come out, you know, were his accusations before or after the movie? Because if they were before the movie, I think he definitely did them to be cheeky, like they think I did this. I was like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fuck with you guys, like I'm gonna put the sweater in here, guess what? I'm gonna put the motherboard in the carpet. Because, andy's right, he was. He's a goddamn artist. His attention to detail, like the, the tie, the maze, just all of it, it nothing got past him. Anything that was put in the movie was done deliberately, not. There were no coincidences, coincidences, coincidence, I, whatever. When it came to what I Whatever, when it came to what he did, coincidence I?

Speaker 3 20:08

When it came to what he was doing. If he changed it, there's a goddamn reason. Was it because he felt guilt? Was it because he's a cheeky bastard? We don't know.

Speaker 4 20:22

Now you mean accusations about the moon landing, because he had a lot of accusations leveled at him about a lot of different things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no okay about the moon landing specifically.

Speaker 3 20:35

What were his accusations about the moon landing? Not? That thing he did with that donkey back in budapest and all that shit, none of that stuff no, no, no.

Speaker 1 20:44

Nothing about him being the reincarnation uh, resputing none of that.

Speaker 3 20:47

No, no, no, that's a fun read, that one.

Hollow Moon Theory: Cosmic Anomalies

Speaker 2 20:51

Um, all right so to stay kind of in the same vein here, we're just gonna go a little deeper than surface level with the moon. This is the hollow moon theory. This one gets my little animal brain all excited. First of all, let me give you a summary to hold on to before we dive all the way into the deep end. Essentially, there's a theory out there that the moon is not a naturally occurring celestial body, that it could be hollow, an artificial construct, or even a giant spaceship full-on death star. That's no fucking moon. Where did this fucking idea come from?

Speaker 3 21:25

Nazi Germany.

Speaker 2 21:28

This idea gained traction in the 1970s with a book called who Built the Moon? Not the Nazis, Kyle, Although.

Speaker 3 21:36

let me, we'll get there.

Speaker 2 21:38

We'll get there the authors were Christopher Knight, alan Butler. It just so happens, around this time there were also soviet scientists like michael bossen and alexander shcherbakov, who are proposing the spaceship moon theory. They theorize that aliens created the moon and placed it in earth's orbit intentionally. You're bursting at the seams kyle, tell me what are you you're just like it just so happened, of course.

Speaker 3 22:04

It just so happened that there's fucking russians doing something against it.

Speaker 2 22:08

Yeah, it's just the way you said it just so happens at this time of course, who'd have thought?

Speaker 3 22:14

because? Because the russians never did anything ever in history to try to rain on our fucking parade ever right like you didn't go to.

Speaker 2 22:21

The fucking moon is hollow anyway. The 70s were a wild decade and everyone was all about the fucking moon. Let me tell you, between the apollo mission and everything else, it's like the whole world just decided to look up one day and start asking questions like what the fuck is this thing that seems to have always been there and literally makes our whole planet livable? So how hollow are we talking? Hold on my computer's trying to lock on me. Let me just uh. Can you quit? Thank you, I told you man just listen.

Speaker 3 22:55

It's weird. We're having technical difficulties.

Speaker 4 22:58

We're talking about this episode kind of freaking telling yeah, my internet's all fucky right now.

Speaker 2 23:06

Well, you sound amazing, so don't worry. So when it comes to the hollow moon, you really have to separate the facts from the outlandish claims made by those who believe in this theory. They're building an interesting case. I'll give them that. Like it goes all the way to NASA, like it's a big, big, big big theory and there's a lot of moving parts. So during the apollo mission, when they dropped off part of the lunar module, they said that when it fell to the moon's surface it rang like a bell, which, honestly, it felt like it gonged through me the first time. I read that, like what the fuck does that mean? I know that's a good indication of something being empty, but I'll tell you what the smart people have to say about this after. Also, the moon's density is lower than the Earth's and this leads some to believe that it's hollow or at least filled with some massive underground caverns. Also, the fact that the moon perfectly covers the sun during total eclipses Some claim this is just too perfect to be natural. The thing that always gets me with this theory is that the moon controls the tide, the magnetic, the magnetic field, even our periods. Like sorry, it's true, the fact that it's like the perfect plot device and it showed up out of nowhere. It did us a huge favor, but it seems like it didn't ask for anything in return, and that makes my trust issues flare up, like what does the moon want? Why is it here to help us? We didn't give anything to the moon, so I mean that alone. So a lot of the craters are shallow, even the largest ones, and this is leading to speculation that there's a hard inner shell limiting the depth of the craters.

Speaker 2 24:46

There's also myths from different cultures and tribes claiming that there was a time before the moon, suggesting that it may have arrived in Earth's orbit after human memory began. Basically, this is the meat and potatoes of the theory. Scientists have done their research and to explain all of this, they've offered us some key points to remember. Essentially, the bell sound was more of a moon quake or seismic shock from the impact. Things like seismic data, gravity mapping and core samples taken from the big beautiful ball herself have told us that she is very much a layered floating rock with the core just as real as the earth's. But you have to admit there's just enough here to make you wonder Between the three of us. I'm looking at myths and legends, I'm looking at science. I'm looking at all the things that can't be explained about the universe. What if the moon was some kind of observation station for some alien race that has been waiting for the perfect segue to make themselves known?

Speaker 4 25:39

In your research did you come across the Mars theory?

Speaker 2 25:44

Oh, I need a tinfoil another layer.

Speaker 4 25:51

You gotta double wrap it with these like a fucking hobo burger meal right now sorry, we can't stop like pete and repeat here uh, the mars theory, the civilization that was on mars millions and millions and millions of years ago. They very advanced civilization. They knew that their planet was dying and they constructed the moon to basically terraform the earth has no one else. Am I the only one that's heard of this?

Speaker 2 26:31

no, I know what you're talking about, because it leans into the, the alien space station theory.

Speaker 4 26:37

That was part of it yeah, so, like the moon, is perfectly positioned to cause, uh, you know, solar eclipsipses. It absolutely is tied to our seasons, our climate, the tides, everything is tied to the moon. Also, the moon rocks are older than Earth itself, so some are over 5.3 billion years old, and the moon dust is also very chemically different than some of the things that should be found on the moon If it was, you know, had been in orbit with Earth all this time. They should have some chemical properties that share one another.

Speaker 2 27:26

We're talking forensic files, stuff like they're analyzing it under the microscope, finding some oddities. Okay.

Speaker 4 27:33

Yeah, it has very high levels of titanium and other rare metals, so the type of metals that are found on it are kind of essential to aerospace technology. Let's see you covered the craters. How the craters should be.

Speaker 4 27:56

Yeah, so they're very wide but they're not deep, and typical impact craters have a very specific type of depth as opposed to width, and this is kind of the exact opposite. It doesn't follow kind of the natural order of what we see on other planets and other moons. This moon does not behave like any other structure that we know about.

Speaker 2 28:23

It also seems like impact craters would be at more of an angle, but a lot of the craters on the moon are like straight up, like somebody just poked their finger in, like something just fell directly from the sky affected by gravity, like there is no gravity on the moon. If something is gonna like hit, it's gonna hit and it's gonna kind of you know there's an incredibly low amount of gravity yeah incredibly low.

Speaker 4 28:49

There there is still gravity gravity is just a theory, baby, okay, okay so if we go back to ancient sumerians, so they have a lot of myths that describe how the gods or celestial bodies moved the moon into place, that it was specifically placed to again help bring about life and stabilize the planet. Also, the ancient Greeks recorded that there were people who predated the moon's presence.

Speaker 2 29:31

That's the kind of thing that makes me believe, more than the armchair detective stuff, the fact that ancient civilizations were like doing their best to keep records with what language and art they had. And they would say that, you know, one day the moon came and suddenly the tide was pretty lit and now everything's okay, like life was shitty before the moon, but now we love it here I mean all the evidence that we have of mars it kind of points to there probably was like an ancient civilization.

Speaker 4 30:00

I mean there are structures on Mars that we can't really explain. They don't seem to be natural.

Speaker 3 30:08

There's sphinxes and pyramids. So we talk about Mars, we talk about the moon.

Speaker 2 30:13

Also, we're like so weirdly obsessed with Mars. Like it's just weird that it's one of the planets we've had a fixation with. Out of all of the planets out there, I know it's like one of the nearest that could possibly be explored. I think it's fascinating that we are tying the moon to the mars and it begs to question maybe humans started on mars and then had to come to earth because we fucked up mars that's the fun one.

Speaker 3 30:38

That's the one I really like that yeah technically, life started on mars. Um and uh, there's this, really. There's this one that's really fun because it's one of the very that technically, life started on Mars. Yes, and there's this one that's really fun because it's one of the very few theory hermaphrodites that exists in humanity where you have religion and science kind of coexisting in one thought which I think is really fun.

Speaker 2 30:59

We love when that happens.

Speaker 3 31:01

There's one theory out there where people think that the exploration ship, or whatever Adam and Eve, their ship was the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. Essentially, the Ice Age is just some type of a bullshit recollection of their cryosleep, of their journey over, because then, when the Ice Age is over was when life happened, was when they woke up from their cryosleep on their ship that crushed into the dinosaurs.

Speaker 3 31:23

I love that one so much because it's like the person who came up with that theory is the absolute embodiment of the phrase shitter, get off the pot like fucking pick a side like they want to. They want you to believe in science and religion at the same time and, I'm sorry, you have two massively conflicting ideals.

Speaker 2 31:41

The idea of the baguettes at the beginning of the bible just being the list so they can keep straight who eve has fucked. So they don't like accidentally inbreed to the humans that are already here. Okay, you got this guy, you got this guy, you got this guy, you got this guy. And these guys all had these babies. We need to make sure we don't muddy the waters either way either way, either way.

Speaker 2 32:01

well, now that you've already brought it back to earth, either way, either way, either way. Well, now that you've already brought it back to Earth, I want to go into the hollow Earth theory with you guys. So fucking bad.

Speaker 3 32:13

Listen, I just went through, for like the 11th time this month, the Kong and Godzilla movies. Yes, I fucking love them.

Speaker 2 32:26

Yes, you are ready. I fucking love them.

Speaker 3 32:27

Yes, you are ready.

Hollow Earth: Caves and Inner Civilizations

Speaker 2 32:28

I fucking love them so goddamn much so, if you ask me, we haven't gotten weird enough yet. Space is too big, we could get lost out there. So instead of asking why the magic rocks out there behave the way they do for this next section, we're gonna bring it back to earth. No, we're gonna go deeper than that. We're staying underground for this next one. Literally, do you ever look at a mountain range or a volcano or a sinkhole and think, hey, what if this whole place was just a shell and there's a secret world inside of it.

Speaker 2 32:59

Well, some people don't just think it, they know it, and today we're digging into the hollow earth theory unfortunately.

Speaker 4 33:06

Yes, I do know this.

Speaker 3 33:08

This is one I do not buy into, so hollow earth you buy into hawae you buy the hollow moon and stanley kubrick making the fucking shining about like red rum, red rum. I fake the fucking moon landing but you don't believe in hollow earth. No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If you believe in one, you gotta believe in the rest. You can't pick and choose which lunacy you decide to wear for the day.

Speaker 2 33:35

She wants her lunacy spoon-fed to her in the correct shape and colors that she likes.

Speaker 3 33:40

Oh Jesus.

Speaker 2 33:40

Christ.

Speaker 4 33:40

Yes, statism, smidgen of the system. Oh, jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 33:45

Yes, statism, statism.

Speaker 2 33:47

To sum up this theory everything we know is a lie and the people in charge are hiding things from us. No, the planet itself is hiding things from us. Let me explain. The theory is that the Earth isn't solid at all. Instead, there's either a central sun surrounded by an internal world, or a massive network of caves and tunnels stretching across continents through specific entry points. And I want to know which of these sounds cooler to you guys right off the bat Do you like inner utopia or do you like giant mole tunnels?

Speaker 4 34:21

Both the mole tunnels.

Speaker 3 34:24

Giant mole utopias.

Speaker 4 34:26

I could buy into the tunnel theory. I could probably see that An internal sun Nuh-uh.

Speaker 2 34:34

Yeah, like that's just a core. You're like the Earth doesn't have a core. Instead it has a core that is a sun. Like shut the fuck up. Anyway, personally I also. I like the idea of the caves Only because it seems like the inside of the planet is a lot of wasted space. And I don't like the inside of the planet is a lot of wasted space and I don't like the idea of flying. If I could pop into a cavern and go to Italy over the weekend, that would be sick as fuck.

Speaker 3 34:58

I mean with the right amount of drugs you can.

Speaker 2 35:03

Yeah. So I bet you guys are wondering how do we get to the real Middle Earth? Any cool mystery door needs a touch of razzle dazzle instead of moving a bookcase or a trap door. The entrances to the insides are said to be naturally occurring, easily monitored locations the north and south pole, the amazon rainforest, the himalayas, mount shasta in california, and I personally think that apalachia and the ozark mountains should be added to this list as well, if we're going off of vibes alone. The theory is that these openings are either naturally hidden or deliberately guarded or disguised by governments to keep the people out. One of the big favorites is antarctica. It's a frozen wasteland with a no fly zone, restricted access, and conspiracy theorists point to the satellite images that have been blurred or blacked out, strange heat signatures under the ice and international military treaties keeping it locked down as evidence that something is being protected. What do we think so far?

Speaker 4 36:07

I have to know what Kyle's little giggle?

Speaker 2 36:13

He had a knowing giggle he brewing something here it's bubbling.

Speaker 3 36:16

Anything that involves antarctica I absolutely love, because you ever see the meme where it's like the boy who's standing there and he looks one direction, the other direction and there's one, supposed to be like the pretty castle in the evil castle, but every now and then it's the two evil castles, you. You come to any conspiracy, any mainstream conspiracy theory, it goes one of two ways Nazis or Antarctica.

Speaker 1 36:37

Sometimes, it's both.

Speaker 3 36:39

Every fucking time. Every fucking time, it's just like the aliens are in Antarctica. The fucking hollow earth entrance is in Antarctica. The Nazis went to Antarctica Like the only thing not in Antarctica is in antarctica. The nazis went to antarctica like the only thing not in antarctica is fucking penguins, apparently like yeah, that's it now, don't do not get me wrong.

Speaker 3 36:59

It is incredibly. It is incredibly um sketchy that, like, how have random nations just kind of agreed that, okay, antarctica is like a no-go, like it's super duper, top secret and blah, blah, blah, so on and so forth? That's super sus, but it's like every fucking conspiracy. It's like antarctica, that's what's an antarctica man? And I'm like bruh happy feet. No, there's penguins there.

Speaker 2 37:32

Angie, what do you?

Speaker 4 37:33

think, Don't? They also say that Antarctica is also the gateway to like.

Speaker 2 37:39

Forget what they call it, but there's like another land like the Earth is actually larger than what we know it and that there's like another, total different world outside of that, I have some evidence that points to what you're suggesting, and I think, in order for us to crack this case, we're gonna need to go a little deeper bird.

Speaker 3 38:01

so this is the moment I saw that episode of sesame street every hollow earth theorist pulls admiral bird out like an ace.

Speaker 2 38:10

They're like this guy knows. This is our messiah Admiral Byrd. He's been there. He asked the questions he knows.

Speaker 2 38:18

So in 1947, a US Navy officer named Admiral Richard E Byrd led Operation High Jump to Antarctica. Now, officially it was about research and testing military equipment in cold conditions, but according to the fringe, admiral bird claimed in a suppressed diary, mind you that he flew into a massive hole at the pole and entered a hidden world. He met advanced beings who warned him about humanity's obsession with war, and then he returned, only for everyone to tell him that he was fucking crazy for saying this. Just gonna go to antarctica real quick. Don't mind me, you guys, whoa, hold on. I came back, guys. There's a hole up there. I can't show you where it is, but I'm gonna write a secret diary about it and fuck you for making fun of me, I guess.

Speaker 2 39:07

So the next thing I want to talk about is Agartha and inner civilizations. So these are the cities supposedly inside of earth. One name you're going to hear if you go down this rabbit hole is Agartha. Supposedly it's a sprawling, advanced underground civilization, sometimes linked to the lost city of Atlantis. It's also linked to other ascended beings said to be living peacefully under there, unaffected by the chaos on the surface of the earth. And get this? According to some accounts, the beings in hollow earth are either ancient humans who went underground long ago, aliens, spiritual masters, lizards, or, like these, tall, glowing, wise and hot, like ascended people they're like oh, we are like the perfect beings, like we've mastered it the asgardians the asgardians.

Speaker 2 39:55

What do the smarties say? Obviously, geologically, earth is made of layers crust, mantle outer core, solid inner core. Seismic waves from earthquakes are how scientists know this. They behave differently when moving through different materials and we have tons of data supporting that. But hey, if I've learned anything doing this show, it's that science doesn't stop people from believing. Maybe science just hasn't dug deep enough.

Speaker 3 40:20

Some say nazis escaped into the hollow earth through antarctica like I said you know, you, you pull on the thread of any conspiracy. You get one or both.

Speaker 2 40:31

This one, we got both one of these hollow earth people have this famous quote that I love is that the core is just lava propaganda typical big lava burning us all up from the insides.

Speaker 4 40:48

Love it.

Speaker 2 40:49

propaganda they also love to talk about this book from 1908 called the Smoky God, where a sailor claims he sailed into the earth through the North Pole and found a land of giants and endless daylight. So this is. This is their like facts and evidence right? So either earth is a solid rock or it's the most exclusive speakeasy in the galaxy and we're all just pounding on the surface hoping they let us in.

Speaker 1 41:15

I personally like the idea of caves.

Speaker 2 41:19

I can buy caves. I can buy caves. I can swallow caves. That is easy to go down. I do fucking miss me with the inner utopia. I don't believe that shit yeah, the cave system.

Speaker 4 41:32

I mean it's allegedly crawling with aliens and that goes with the, you know, and the missing 411 and the cave system and people going missing, and so, yeah, I could, I can, I can swallow this and I mean archaeologists dig up cities all the time that they didn't remember, they didn't realize existed.

Speaker 2 41:56

It wouldn't surprise me so much that there's more going on underground in the past than there is now oh, I mean, I can believe it insane amounts.

Speaker 3 42:06

My question is is what makes like? What makes k Kubrick's pretty much a documentary and not Adam Wingard, the director of Kong Godzilla? What makes?

Speaker 1 42:18

him a liar.

Speaker 3 42:19

I literally just watched the movies. They went there, they went there, I saw it.

Speaker 1 42:26

They went there, it was on location.

Speaker 2 42:29

Exactly, it was practical effects.

Speaker 3 42:32

It was practical effects. I it's actually found footage. It's practical effects.

Speaker 4 42:36

I saw it all guys. It was a found footage film.

Speaker 2 42:38

You can't tell this man what he didn't see wasn't real.

Speaker 1 42:41

Exactly, or what he saw wasn't real, duh.

Speaker 3 42:47

I know what I saw, and that's a brand new movie, brand new.

Speaker 2 42:51

That's recent.

Speaker 1 42:52

This is recent history.

Speaker 3 42:56

So like very believable.

Speaker 2 42:58

Wake up sheeple.

Speaker 1 43:00

All right.

Speaker 2 43:03

So my next theory guys, I want to get fucky with this one. What is Denver hiding in the airport?

Speaker 2 43:09

Literally everything oh God, yeah, this one hits close is Denver hiding in the airport? Literally everything oh God, yeah, this one hits close to home, literally. The airport I'm going to be talking about is the Denver International Airport, which is like an hour away from my home. I feel comfortable revealing that only because I've carefully sculpted my reputation on this show as an individual that does not play well with others. Try to find me and see what happens. Anywho, there's a lot that goes into this, and the first thing I'm going to talk about is blucifer and the blood on his hooves so the first thing that you see coming into the airport is this giant blue horse statue.

Speaker 2 43:42

It's disturbingly anatomically correct. This art piece is veined with pulsating doom. The statue is called the mustang, but the internet and everyone with the working set of eyes have nicknamed this monstrosity blucifer. Some say it represents the four horsemen of the apocalypse, others claim it's some kind of illuminati watchtower. This thing is 32 feet tall, the eyes glow red, and not only is it well hung, but also Homie has a kill count. Like many ungodly creatures, lucifer killed his creator before it was even finished what I just pulled up.

Speaker 4 44:24

A picture of this thing, holy shit.

Speaker 1 44:29

Do you see its endowment? I'm telling you, veined with pulsating doom.

Speaker 2 44:41

I say that very deliberately. So, like I said, blue super killed. Blue super killed its creator before it was even finished and they still presented it to us like a gift we probably deserve but didn't ask for. During its conception, part of the horse fell onto the artist, louis jimenez and severed the artery in his leg, killing him, which is the most metal origin story for the first public art piece I've ever heard of have. Now that you've seen the pictures of it, like would you want to see it in person? No, and I'm sitting here thinking I'm gonna be flying into this airport in october.

Speaker 2 45:14

You're gonna come give it a kiss on your way to see me it is a sight to be held so as if the exterior isn't brutal enough, between the 32 foot harbinger of doom and the inconvenience of the denver airport, being literally 40 minutes away from denver, it has even more twisted art on the inside. The murals, guys yes, it's so unsettling.

Speaker 2 45:37

It's not even funny. If you haven't seen them, pause the episode, google it and then come back here and stare at me for a little bit, because I see you and you aren't alone. Okay, it's created by this guy named le Tanguma, and the most infamous ones that are there are a scene of children in coffins, gas-masked soldier with giant Shmitar and cities in ruins and terrified families. That's just one. The second is a peaceful follow-up, with children from all nations gathered around a glowing plant All above the corpse Of the same soldier. So they're intended To depict the horrors of war and the dreams of peace, but the execution feels more like a prophecy or a warning, and it's not something you want to look at Before you get on an airplane. They're traumatizing you guys. They're just fucking weird. And if the art doesn't get you, the secret tunnels really should.

Speaker 2 46:43

So it gets deeper. There are reportedly six levels below the airport. The official story is that they're part of a failed automated baggage system. But we love a good, that's what they want you to think moment. So the theories include there are underground bunkers for the global elite to wait out the apocalypse. There's connections to NORAD, which is just like 100 miles away Colorado Springs, Pikes Peak, around that side of the mountains. That's where NORAD is, the big secret military base. It's not a secret. Everybody knows about. So they think that you know the tunnels connect to NORAD. They think that a new World Order HQ was built in plain sight. They think that it's a hidden detention center for cloning facilities and they think alien tech storage right.

Speaker 2 47:32

Some say that there are symbols and the layout of these tunnels mimic swastikas from above. Others talk about weird masonic plaques, gargoyle statues warning travelers and workers who claim parts of the tunnels. Just go on forever. I've actually spoken to people who work here and it's very hush, hush. They don't want employees poking around in there and they don't want you bringing your friends to see them Like, believe me, they don't. If you work there and you try to get your friend in to see the tunnels, you're going to get in trouble. It's like the rule is don't ask, don't tell. If you know me, you know this is a challenge I refuse to ignore.

Denver Airport Conspiracies: Blucifer & Tunnels

Speaker 2 48:13

So another thing I want to talk about is the airport went billions over budget and it took 16 months longer than it should have to make it. They also built it way out in the middle of nowhere, even though Stapleton, the old airport, was still very much functional. So the real question is why? Why here? Why the weird vibes? Why is this airport the conspiracy theorist Disneyland? And it just feels like this is either the greatest prank ever funded by taxpayer money or we are one automated announcement away from a portal opening under gate C-13 and swallowing the world whole. What do you guys think about this airport and swallowing the world?

Speaker 3 48:52

whole. What do you guys think about this airport? I can neither confirm nor deny.

Speaker 2 49:00

Insightful, angie you I love that you're. You weren't supposed to be on this episode, but now that I know that. Angie is going to be flying through DIA in the upcoming future. It makes me so excited to know that she knows all the twisted, fucked up shit that goes down inside of it.

Speaker 1 49:16

How does it make you feel?

Speaker 2 49:18

Well, I'm thinking about finding another airport to fly into hey Stapleton.

Speaker 3 49:25

You'll be fine. You'll be fine.

Speaker 2 49:28

Honestly, it's so popular. That's the thing that gets me with it is how popular dia is, like we talked about on one episode. I could look up at the sky at any point and there are like 20 fucking planes. It is insanely popular. There's a lot of foot traffic for them to actually be hiding something there. I think that it would take a miracle, honestly a miracle but, but often, what do you do?

Speaker 4 49:51

you hide things in plain sight. Yeah, what also might explain why denver is one of the most expensive airports to fucking fly into and it's not a convenience fee you're paying.

Speaker 2 50:03

Let me tell you it is not convenient to fly to dia, especially if it's like a long haul, if you're flying in and you have like hours to drive to get to a hotel like it's. It's a nightmare, guys. It's. It's like a long haul if you're flying in and you have like hours to drive to get to a hotel like it's. It's a nightmare, guys. It's. It's out in the middle of nowhere. I'm telling you, it's almost like deserted. So, moving away from airplanes, as regretful as that is, I want to go into the theory that we are all Sims.

Speaker 1 50:31

Hello, hello, hello hello.

Simulation Theory: Are We Digital Creations?

Speaker 2 50:32

In the most uncomfortable cling film you can imagine, I'm going to gently pry apart everything you've ever known about yourself and reality and what is possible. Have either of you heard the theory that we're living in a simulation?

Speaker 3 50:46

I've seen the Matrix.

Speaker 1 50:48

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 50:49

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 50:49

Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 50:51

Very, very much, so I love this theory.

Speaker 4 50:52

I am locked into this. Go ahead.

Speaker 2 50:55

Hell yeah. So essentially, if you ever look around and you feel like something's off or like you're stuck in a glitchy video game designed by cosmic interns and monitored by an emotionally unavailable alien species, aka Ubisoft, you're already started. You're already a part of the simulation theory. Let's dive in. No parachute, no physics, no questions. We're just gonna, we're just gonna rip this out. So some people believe that we're all sharing one big simulation, like some kind of massive mmorpg run on whatever passes for god's gpu. Others say it's individualized just you, your reality, your npcs and the ai behind the screen keeping you entertained or suffering, based on your upgrade plan. Either way, the same question applies is any of this real, with gta logic? This is where I know I touched on this in the creep in the creepypasta. But I want to dive even deeper into this particular version of the simulation, because this is the one that makes it tangible for me.

Speaker 2 51:58

If you look at the game Grand Theft Auto 5, it's the perfect simulation of a simulation. It does what most games do to save processing power, and it only renders the world a chunk at a time. There is an algorithm that determines which vehicles which NPCs spawn and what kind of weather you're going to have while you break society's rules like a little delinquent. So what we have here is NPCs on a loop saying the same five lines of dialogue. You have people disappearing the moment you look away, bizarre side quests involving sentient pigeons and real estate fraud, invisible walls, physics breaking moments and cars that spawn in front of you. If you ever feel like the weather changes just to suit the mood of your life story, that's not the universe. Being poetic, that's the weather mod script flipping on.

Speaker 2 52:43

Obviously there's nuance to it, but this is essentially the idea that it's like preloaded, based on you and what you're looking at, and there are people that you come into contact with that will become like main characters that you will interact with on a daily basis or sometimes like rarely, but it's essentially like a tailored experience to you and you're the main character. They're just testing shit out on you. Another one is it's like the matrix theory that the real world is just a dream your body is having while you're plugged into a machine somewhere in a completely different dimension. Maybe you chose to be here, maybe you didn't. The Mandela effect is just a glitch in the code. Deja vu is Runderlag, the feeling of being watched when you're alone. That's the simulations camera pulling back for a wide shot. You can't convince me that the matrix wasn't a documentary with a bigger VFX budget than the Truth ever gets, so let's stir in some alien spice.

Speaker 4 53:39

Why not?

Speaker 2 53:39

We were created as an experiment, a little lab-grown planet for extraterrestrial grad students studying emotional chaos and capitalism. Or worse, they're not studying us. What if we're just the screensaver running while they're out? Crop circles, abductions, sleep, paralysis these are just patch notes being installed, the feeling that you're the main character. That's because you are, and the aliens are watching your life's arc like it's peak prestige TV. And here's where it gets sinister. What if the simulation is not run by random code, but the new world order, not as programmers, but as editors, curating reality, controlling collective consciousness by deciding what upgrades get pushed through the news cycle? That's just a change log. Social media is a distraction. Code engineering to keep you busy, keep you scrolling, to notice simulation has browned you dreams. They're the upload files new trauma, new storylines, new rules. If you ever wake up and swear something is different or the air changed, maybe it did, maybe you got patched. What do you guys think? Could you believe in the simulation theory?

Speaker 3 54:47

I think I'm gonna cry is what I'm gonna do, that's for sure it's too real right it, it is, it is, it's nuts, because like it's, it does explain like the weird things like deja vu and oh that thing's just weird, the mandela effect, a lot of kind of fun shit and so on. So it it does bring quote unquote, if you can, if you shall Sense and reasoning to all those. It's just it's not pretty, it's not pretty.

Speaker 2 55:14

It's not pretty. Sense and reasoning it makes everything feel pointless, and that's something I struggle with on a daily basis. It's just a fucking game Like this is just a fucking game, yeah.

Speaker 2 55:26

Because, if you think about like it seems like the rule should be you do good, you get good. You work hard, you make money, maybe you get rich, maybe you're able to save some money. But it seems like people who follow all of the rules of life the way they're supposed to, they don't always get what they deserve for that. And there are people that don't. They get what other people deserve. They don't necessarily deserve the good that they've had. They get what other people deserve. They don't necessarily deserve the good that they've had. And I think little moments like that are what make theories like this so easy to cling to, because it brings sense to something in reality that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 56:00

Yeah, it brings sense to the horrendous inequality and unfair.

Speaker 4 56:10

Angie, I want to know, what, what?

Speaker 2 56:14

I want to know what you feel I want to know what. How?

Speaker 1 56:17

do you feel about the?

Speaker 2 56:17

simulation.

Speaker 4 56:18

Hmm, I mean, maybe we're not inside the code, maybe we are the code, that's dreaming and self-awake.

Speaker 1 56:31

Hmm.

Speaker 4 56:32

There's a couple different.

Speaker 2 56:33

It's very complicated.

Speaker 4 56:35

Yeah, because you know, are we Sorry, my brain is just going in so many different directions they're interfering.

Speaker 2 56:41

You should have worn the tinfoil if I'm good.

Speaker 4 56:48

Are we? Are we the? Are we the makers of this simulation? Like an advanced, you know.

Speaker 2 57:00

So if we're going with the grand theft auto 5 logic what if it's not the world randomly happening around us?

Speaker 4 57:07

it is stuff that we are pulling to us with our subconscious because we are the ones writing the simulation as we are living it, we just don't realize it is that why so many people really truly believe in you know, manifesting that you are just bending code.

Speaker 2 57:23

Right, and why? Like? Maybe the reason why some people don't believe in the moon landing is because that's not part of their simulation. They're like no, they told me that was a lie. I just don't know why they told me that.

Speaker 3 57:35

So you're saying it's poor people who couldn't buy the DLC? Is what you're saying?

Speaker 2 57:38

Yeah, they couldn't afford the patch. That was like moon landing you get access to moon knowledge.

Speaker 3 57:44

They don't get the V-Bucks.

Speaker 2 57:47

It's one that I find myself circling back to a lot. I really do. I find that there are a lot of things in reality that don't make sense according to the rules of the universe, and you can take that how you will. I have seen some shit. I I think that it might be true. You guys, I think that we could be living in a simulation. I think that aliens could be involved. I think the new world order could be involved. Fuck it. Everybody that was ever bad could be involved, and we are just people that are living inside of the machine and we can either work together or we don't. But I think that's my two cents about it.

Speaker 3 58:26

anywho I think, when it comes down to the simulation, one like, like you said, the, the two big ones that I know of, or at least I feel have the most probability uh, it's the truman show, and we're all, jim carrey and the aliens, are controlling whether it's just for sick entertainment. Whether it's the truman show, and we're all jim carrey and the aliens are controlling whether it's just for sick entertainment, whether it's this and the other thing, whether it is screenshift, doesn't matter. Um, we are something they've created. We are just that. Maybe we are their gta.

Speaker 3 58:50

That's what it is yeah we are literally just their video game. Um, and that steven king book under the dome.

Speaker 2 58:56

The reason the dome gets dropped on that town is it's like an alien video game. It's literally like they just drop the dome down to see how a civilization would react when all of their supplies are cut off. They're all locked together in this small town and suspicions arise Like they end up killing each other off, like it's just they were bored, they just shake it.

Speaker 3 59:15

They're testing shit out. Yeah, they're just like see what the fuck's going around. Man, it's exactly that. What do you do? It's like oh, here's this thing, give it to the mouse, see what it does, record it down, put it on the internet. Who the fuck cares? That's what we are. We're the lab rats.

Speaker 2 59:26

I I feel that one has more that's why we're so weird about human experimentation, because they're worried that through human experimentation we're going to realize that humans are an experimentation thanks.

Speaker 3 59:36

Oh, where's chris nolan's movie explaining all of this, that he's behind all of this? Because this sounds very chris nolan in his ballpark. Eat your heart out, kubrick.

Speaker 3 59:44

Um the one about the new world order and the deep state, running running it I know it's just I feel it's movie knowledge than I do oh, it's not so much the movie knowledge, it's just the like, the the other. The other theory that I'm thinking about is that them running, it is like I think there is, I think there's more gravity. Not so much that they're controlling a simulation, they're just controlling the world because you can't. You can't rule the world, you can't dominate, you can't just like take over the world that the one person's in charge, because that's just bad for business. People have tried it's not realistic, too big.

Speaker 3 1:00:20

It's exactly, it's way too big. So, but if you get enough people in to kind of spread it out throughout there and get this person involved in that person involved, that person involved, you seem like you're against each other, but really you're working with each other and you keep laughing on your way to the bank. Um, I think that's the more probable because, okay, the social media is exactly. I feel all these people with these sick and twisted minds could have potentially come up with these things and these bogus conflicts and these bogus distractions. It's just like I don't want to be that guy, but we have some really heavy situations going on in the world right now and the only thing you can find.

Speaker 3 1:00:52

If you open up any form of social media or anything that's connected to the internet, all you're seeing is a hundred guys versus a gorilla.

Speaker 3 1:01:00

I think they're masters of the, the misdirection and the oh look, shiny thing over here, while they're robbing you and screwing you over on the other side right I don't necessarily think they're controlling like an actual, like no one pulls up like a laptop and like starts fucking with everyone individually it's the control of the collective consciousness, like I was saying, like they're just kind of directing the flow of thought and trying to get that herd mentality stirred up and going towards a little more messaging, all that fun shit exactly, exactly, um, those are all of my conspiracy theories.

Speaker 2 1:01:33

I was wondering if there were any honorable mentions that you guys would like to just throw out there before we go into the outro too many of them one that I wish I had done was the theory that shakespeare is more than one person I really like that one.

Speaker 2 1:01:49

That's a good one I also like the idea that the titanic that sank was actually its sister ship, because something happened to the titanic before it was supposed to go off and like shit went down. Obviously they could never come clean about it, like it was just gonna be a little switcheroo. People are just gonna ride fake titanic and be like woo, we rode titanic and then the real titanic would go into business like walls jokes yeah, it's a fun one I mean shout outs to the two biggest ones that are on the face of the earth Roswell, New Mexico, JFK.

Speaker 2 1:02:21

Yeah, jfk is a good one. I like that one a lot. Grassy Knoll, all that Honestly, I've heard a lot of interesting ones about Abraham Lincoln too. Oh yeah. Basically like any theory where, like the government's lying to us and society is a construct.

Speaker 3 1:02:36

It's like a hell on earth.

Speaker 2 1:02:38

Love those.

Speaker 3 1:02:39

those are really great the one that blew my mind was the eerie similarities between lincoln and kennedy.

Speaker 2 1:02:43

Those are the weird, that's the, that's gotta be the weirdest one ever yeah, because, like, the list just doesn't end well, one that got thrown my way was how similar jack black looks to the actual ben benjamin franklin and somebody came to me with a theory that maybe jack black is a time traveler. He's just benjamin franklin fucking around in our timeline that's a great one that is a great idea. All right, angie, do you have anything else to say before we go into outro? I'm kind of catech, can you hear me? Hello, can you hear me? Okay, am I still here?

Speaker 2 1:03:16

oh no, they got her no, angie, the men in black god, they really got her oh no, oh oh shit. Do we wait? Oh oh no, this isn't good. She's the one with, like, the recording button.

Speaker 3 1:03:33

Oh, oh we definitely have to wait then for a second. See if she can rejoin.

Speaker 2 1:03:35

There she is, oh thank god, angie, are you okay? Did they take your memories? Well, we definitely have to wait then. Wait a second See if she can rejoin there she is. Oh, thank God, angie, are you okay?

Speaker 3 1:03:41

Did they take your?

Speaker 2 1:03:41

memories.

Speaker 3 1:03:43

Blink once for yes, twice for no.

Speaker 2 1:03:44

Do you ever wonder if the Men in Black will come for us for our podcast?

Speaker 3 1:03:49

No.

Speaker 2 1:03:50

You don't think so.

Speaker 3 1:03:51

Absolutely not. Not a chance at all.

Speaker 2 1:03:52

We don't have enough people listening to it, huh.

Speaker 3 1:03:54

Not even that we can get more popular than Joe Rogan. They're not going to come for us.

Speaker 2 1:03:58

Because we're too fucky.

Speaker 3 1:04:00

Exactly.

Speaker 1 1:04:03

Oh.

Speaker 2 1:04:04

Oh, oh, oh. All right, I'm going to text Angie. What do I do? Angela, angela, I always call her Angie, but every now and then I'll toss an Angela in there. She loves it.

Speaker 3 1:04:18

I got to work on my Tony Danza impression. I just hit her with it one time. Angela, angela, angela, it's like my Stallone, but more sad.

Speaker 2 1:04:28

She said she's trying to get back in, no worries, they locked her out. I'm telling you. That's another thing too. I find the more you start talking about things like this, the more tech issues and weird things start happening. You know what I mean there's some weird stuff.

Speaker 3 1:04:43

That it's there's.

Speaker 2 1:04:45

There's some weird stuff I'm gonna tell you something, but only because this is getting cut from the recording and it's only you and I here. But I have remembered a lot of what I'm supposed to forget and I know shit Shit's fucky out here. Shit is fucky, shit's fucky man, angie, is it really?

Speaker 3 1:05:08

you, Baby jump. You got your temp for that, didn't you?

Speaker 4 1:05:14

I jumped so hard I still don't know what to do because I can't stop the recording Like my. My computer just completely fucked off Like thing. I have no internet and I won't even, it won't even pick up my hotspot.

Speaker 2 1:05:30

Maybe when we go to leave it will be okay, but if not, I have all of this written down. We can either scrap this or we can just record it again some other time. But it's not the end of the world.

Speaker 4 1:05:43

I really just don't understand why it's not even picking up my it's the fucking Men in Black.

Final Thoughts and Honorable Mentions

Speaker 2 1:05:50

Angie, listen, the more you know, the more you know, and I said before, I'm no scientist. I can't even lie to you and say that I'm a rational person driven by facts and logics. Do I subscribe to all of these theories that I presented today? No, I think there's a lot to this world that can't be explained and, in my personal opinion, if we don't ask these questions, then we're not going to figure out what the truth really is. If you learn anything from me, learn this Don't believe everything you see, Don't listen to everything you hear. And when the world gets quiet, and still, why don't you go ahead and give the moon a little wink for me? Tell her I sent you. If you encounter a 32 foot horse with glowing red eyes, give them a wide berth. And if you liked liked this episode, remember to rate and subscribe wherever you get podcasts.

Speaker 2 1:06:41

This episode couldn't have happened without the army of people who have given us their time and attention, and for those loyal soldiers, we thank you. I want to thank angie and kyle for sitting through this with me, and especially kyle for being so willing to pull out a tinfoil hat for me. Um, if you're still listening. I just want to do a quick shout out for some of the listeners on Spotify Enrique, james Finney, john, melissa and Amy. Thank you for taking the time to either write or subscribe. That helps us out so much more than you can realize. On YouTube, we have a loyal commenter, nikki, that I want to shout out. She's one of the only people who isn't us that has commented. I appreciate you, nikki. And on Apple Reviews, I want to give a shout out to Hugh Joe Knockers 6969 for your super nice review and the greatest name ever.

Speaker 2 1:07:32

Also MeMeMe423,. Thank you for your review. That helps us so much. I also want to give a special thanks to cody and kayleen for literally saving the editing process and recording of this podcast generous, funny motherfuckers. I love you guys so much. And while I'm thanking neighbors, I want to thank our number one fan, patrick, for literally watching every single episode and talking to me about them. Every single episode is hours of work and we love them so much and we appreciate you guys. The support means the world. It keeps us going and, although we would still make this podcast without it, it's heartwarming to know we're not just casting our voices out into the void. We'll see you next monday for a new episode. Whether you watch this one or not, it doesn't matter, it's happening. Lean in um, that's all I have, guys.

Speaker 3 1:08:20

Bye is this a number one fan? No, this is patrick no, this is patrick patar.

Speaker 2 1:08:36

Oh, I'm so excited to see if this is actually recorded.

Speaker 4 1:08:40

Oh, God, I don't know. I think I'm going to just read the article.

Speaker 2 1:08:47

Oh no, they put her in a. Well, can I hear you? She's getting abducted right now.

Speaker 3 1:08:53

Remember when they pull out the probe, you're going to jump a little at first, but just take a deep breath and hold it for three seconds. Always exhale on re-entry. Your rectum will thank me.

Speaker 4 1:09:01

Oh no, that's the only way I can get in here. I have to go to the gate. I'm like that. I.

Speaker 3 1:09:13

I'm sorry. I'm going to be honest. I didn't understand a fucking word.

Speaker 1 1:09:18

You just said.

Speaker 3 1:09:19

You sound like like you know what you sound like. You were the captain from a plane trying to tell us what the weather was like in Denver right before we land, but your face was in a fucking pillow bye, bye, say bye Kyle oh bye Kyle. Oh bye Kyle.