S1E5: Non-Christmas Christmas Movies

The most chaotic holiday debate returns with tinsel, bullets, and gremlins. We set out to answer a deceptively simple question: what actually makes a Christmas movie a Christmas movie? Instead of relying on snow, carols, or a single party scene, we build a clear test: the story should unfold on or because of Christmas, use holiday elements as real plot levers, and resonate with themes like reunion, consequence, or community. Then we stress-test the canon.

We start with the fringe picks. Lethal Weapon opens festive but plays straight action. Batman Returns turns Gotham into a glittering snow globe for a story about misfits and masks, closer yet still debatable. Gremlins gets our gold star: a Christmas gift gone wrong, community in peril, and a holiday clock that matters. The sparks really fly when we clash over Harry Potter’s cozy feasts and “Happy Christmas” charm; nostalgia and TV marathons aren’t enough to pass the bar. And yes, we plant the flag for Die Hard. From the Christmas Eve office party to music cues and reconciliations, the film’s engine runs on the holiday. Remove Christmas and the plot stalls.

We also run a gauntlet of listener-favorite edge cases—Rocky IV’s December fight, Mean Girls’ Jingle Bell Rock, Little Women’s seasonal pivots—and call out the truly unhinged suggestions like Eyes Wide Shut and Prometheus. Along the way we trade beloved trivia, background bloopers, and the rituals that make movies feel like the season: timing Hans Gruber’s fall to midnight, annual rewatches, and the comfort of familiar lines.

If you love arguing about Die Hard, cherish Gremlins, or want a smarter way to sort your December watchlist, this one’s for you. Press play, then tell us your most controversial non-Christmas Christmas pick. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs convincing, and drop your hot take so we can feature it next time.

Transcript

Cold Open And Holiday Disclaimer

SPEAKER_09 0:00

So the next one, I would say I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about one movie, but this is a series of movies. Although I think the main one and a few sequels after are Christmas. I think eventually as the series moves on, it gets less of a Christmas vibe. But um Harry Potter and the Source.

SPEAKER_05 0:21

Absolutely not. No.

SPEAKER_09 0:22

It is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 0:24

Defend yourself right now. There's one fucking scene. Happy Christmas, Harry! Happy Christmas, Ron. No, fuck off.

SPEAKER_03 0:30

That's not a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 0:32

Oof.

SPEAKER_03 0:33

Anyhow.

SPEAKER_09 0:34

I feel very uh very passionate about that.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Yeah, my bad.

Setting The Premise: Non‑Christmas Christmas Movies

SPEAKER_09 1:10

All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. Yippie Kaye, motherfuckers. Welcome to the show. Today we're going to be talking about Christmas movies that aren't really supposed to be Christmas movies, but they are Christmas movies. You know, the real holiday classics. The one where the guy's crawling through vents, like he's a raccoon with a gun. There's one where a bunch of kids almost die. One in particular, but hey, he gets a sweater. There's one with killer Furbies. And one where there's a crime fighter in basically like a hot topic snow globe. And these are why I think they're Christmas movies. So you ready?

SPEAKER_07 2:07

You're stuck on the bar.

SPEAKER_09 2:10

It's just when I say the movie that's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 2:13

I already know what movie that is, and it just makes me laugh because I remember I saw a meme one time. It was just like when you were too young to drive, so your mom dropped you off at warp tour. And it's just like once he's first gone home, and there's like the perfect mom, and he's just sitting there. Fucking hysterical. Proceed.

SPEAKER_09 2:30

Alright, we're gonna get festive as hell. You ready?

SPEAKER_03 2:33

Festive as hell.

SPEAKER_09 2:34

Black boy.

unknown 2:36

All right.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

So yeah, yeah, that's yes.

Lethal Weapon: Seasonal Setting Debate

Ranking Approach And First Picks

SPEAKER_09 2:38

I'm gonna do these in like the least to the what I think are, you know, like they're they're all like I love these films, but the least to the to the most Christmas, non-Christmas movie. So the first one I have came out in 1987, and it is Lethal Weapon. Do you want me to connect those dots? So, I mean, the movie is set during the Christmas season. And so it starts out literally with a Christmas song, and there's all these decorations. You get into the movie and Riggs, you see that, you know, he's got all these emotional themes that are very holiday-coded, you know, grief, redemption, found family. Um, there is a famous Christmas tree lot shootout.

SPEAKER_05 3:36

Yeah, yeah. Wow, it's been a while since I've seen this movie. I fucking love this movie, man.

SPEAKER_09 3:41

Yeah. And uh so uh is it is it a Christmas movie? I think it is. What do you think?

SPEAKER_05 3:54

I think it's a movie that I would not I've this is the first time I've ever heard this one being considered a Christmas movie, if I'm being completely honest. I've never heard anyone say that this movie specifically is a Christmas movie. I've never like it's been a long time since I've seen it. And once you mentioned it, I was like, holy shit, you're right. I just remembered how the movie starts. I was like, yikes! Anyhow, um, yeah, I I would I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I would consider this is just because of all those certain things, they mentioned some Christmas stuff. Yeah. Like saying Letha Weapon is a Christmas movie is like saying Pearl Harbor or Tora Tora Torah is a Christmas movie. Oh, it happens in December. Yeah, but like doesn't right, you know what I mean? Because you see Santa Claus once in Pearl Harbor. Oh, it's a Christmas movie. No, it's not.

SPEAKER_09 4:41

Maybe a little bit of a stretch. I can give you that. It's a little bit of a stretch, but um Yeah, I I I would not no.

Batman Returns: Snow Globes And Outsiders

SPEAKER_05 4:48

It's a great movie, not a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 4:50

So this next one came out in 1992. And do you want to take a guess what it is?

SPEAKER_05 4:59

Oh, a movie that came out in 1992. That fucking narrows it down.

SPEAKER_09 5:04

Well, okay, this is the Christmas Snow Globe movie.

SPEAKER_05 5:08

Oh, Scissor Hands.

SPEAKER_09 5:10

No, although that's a really good one. I should uh that I don't know why I didn't think of that one. Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

The hot topic snow globe isn't Edward Scissorhands?

SPEAKER_09 5:21

No, no.

SPEAKER_05 5:22

Oh, fuck me. Wow, okay. That was way off then.

SPEAKER_09 5:26

Um, it's Batman Returns. Son of a bitch.

SPEAKER_03 5:31

Yeah, I don't consider that much a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 5:34

So in this movie, Gotham is absolutely drenched in Christmas decorations. There's snow, there's tons of holiday imagery. Selena and Bruce's relationship revolves around two people who don't fit into the holiday ideal.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

Yeah, that's what their relationship goes around. Not like their quote unquote air quote secret love for BDSM has nothing to do with it.

SPEAKER_09 6:02

Um, the villains literally attack at Christmas events. And in this, Tim Burton uses Christmas as a symbolic backdrop for a story about a few outsiders.

SPEAKER_08 6:19

Hmm.

SPEAKER_09 6:20

Not buying that one either.

SPEAKER_05 6:22

Um, I'll buy it more than Lethal Weapon, that's for sure. I think maybe just because there is more snow, and I feel there is more of a holiday-esque theme. It's gotta be the closest thing to a Christmas movie as Tim Burton could do. Has to be.

SPEAKER_09 6:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

So um I would still say no, but I I under uh I understand it being um listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm trying to give a serious conversation, but I am wildly distracted by images of Michelle Pfeiffer in that movie right now.

SPEAKER_09 7:01

True, true.

SPEAKER_05 7:02

With the love of God.

SPEAKER_09 7:04

She was so good. So good.

SPEAKER_05 7:07

She was something, that's for sure. Jesus.

SPEAKER_09 7:10

Did you have you ever seen the clips of her doing um the whip scene where she's like, When she did it in one take? One take with the doll's head, with the mannequin heads. Fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_05 7:25

Jesus, God, just anywho.

SPEAKER_09 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:29

Cold shower. Anywho. Yeah. Um, all right.

unknown 7:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:33

Um, but all seriousness, uh, I can I can see people's arguments that you definitely have more, you have more of an argument of that being a Christmas movie than um Lethal Weapon for sure. Like I said, maybe just because it's the snow, because there is kind of that cutesy, I don't even know what type of instrument it would be, but there is kind of that cutesy, like um uh jingly kind of merry-making instruments that go along with Christmas in that movie, and there's a lot of presents and so on and so forth. So there's more Christmas in that. Um, and also can people start putting some fucking respect on that movie? Like, I'm just learning that people like kind of hate that movie and all this other kind of shit. Can we put some respect on that movie? Not just because of Michelle Pfeiffer, but legit, like get bent if you don't like that movie.

SPEAKER_09 8:29

I thought it was a solid Batman movie.

SPEAKER_05 8:31

Oh, it's a fantastic Batman movie.

SPEAKER_09 8:33

Yeah. Alright, so we're gonna move to back, we're gonna go back to the 80s. And so this is where I'm gonna get a little bit more serious because goddamn it. This is a this is a Christmas movie. It's uh I see it as a dark Christmas movie. Um, and this is Gremlins.

SPEAKER_07 8:56

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_09 8:59

So, you know, basically Gizmo was a Christmas present gone wrong. It takes place, the whole series of events takes place, you know, during the holiday season. Um yeah, this is absolutely a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

Yeah, no, this is arguably the the this is the easiest one to make the argument that it is a Christmas movie. Like you said, about 90% of the movie takes place on Christmas. Not all of it. Like you said, it was a Christmas gift. Um her little there's that really like emotional story with um what's her name? You know, the the actress, whatever. She talks the whole thing and blah, blah, blah, about Santa Claus and it's not the other thing. It's like there's so much Christmas in this movie.

SPEAKER_09 9:43

Yeah. Yeah, this is definitely a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 9:49

All right. The bitchy old lady on her thing. Throws it in the blender in the microwave. That is a dark, that is a real dark movie. That movie's only like PG. Is it really? I think it's only like PG, and like it's pretty violent.

SPEAKER_09 10:04

Yeah, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_04 10:06

It's so good. I love that movie. I'm watching the hell out of that movie.

SPEAKER_09 10:09

Stripe. I remember Stripe.

SPEAKER_04 10:12

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 10:13

It was a badass gremlin.

The Harry Potter Fight

unknown 10:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 10:16

So the next one, I would say I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about one movie, but this is a series of movies. Although I think the main one and a few sequels after are Chris. I think eventually, as the series moves on, it gets less of a Christmas vibe. But um, Harry Potter and the Source.

SPEAKER_05 10:38

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_09 10:39

No, it is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 10:42

Defend yourself right now. There's one fucking scene. Happy Christmas, Harry! Happy Christmas, Ron.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

No, fuck off. That's not a Christmas movie. Oof. Anywho.

SPEAKER_09 10:51

I feel very uh very passionate about that.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Yeah, my bad.

SPEAKER_09 10:57

Okay. So it features so many iconic scenes on Christmas. There's the Christmas morning sequence where there's people are getting sweaters, the English call them jumpers, snow gifts, Christmas feast, the feast. There's Christmas feasts. Um Hogwarts at Christmas. It shows literally Hogwarts at Christmas, and it's so magical, and then the the snow visuals. It and and honestly, a lot of these show, these movies are shown traditionally now through the holidays during, you know, marathons. Different stations will have them on as marathons during Christmas.

SPEAKER_05 11:48

Well, so is Star Wars and The Godfather, but no one's saying those are Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_09 11:52

Yeah, they're Christmas. I I associate the early ones, they're Christmas movies. No?

SPEAKER_05 12:01

Absolutely not. No, I'm sorry, but more than 50%, about roughly 50% of every movie has to take place on or be themed around Christmas. For like I said, just because there was one, that's like saying Empire Strikes Back, it's a Christmas movie, because there's a snow planet. Like it's you're not selling me on that one. Absolutely not selling me that Harry Potter. I will give the most honorable mention that, you know, but what about this? You get noted because I no pun intended, it's just I can't think of any other way to describe the first movie other than magical. Like the first one was so good. I'm not, I don't need to hear anyone give me shit about the books because we know about fucking books and movies and so on and so forth. But the first one was genuinely so magical between the music and the characters and the portrayal and every aspect of that movie. And I was I I think I was the age Harry Potter's supposed to be when that movie came out. I remember like I I remember I was in elementary school, we went on a field trip to go see the first like three movies when they came out, either way. So associating magic and the purity and the excitement and the total onspiring of the first movie, and that same feeling you get on Christmas morning of just the magical of it and the happiness and the onspiring of when you're a little child. Yes, you get an honorable mention, but it's not a Christmas movie. It creates feelings, but it's not a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 13:37

I don't know. I just I think we're have to agree to disagree.

SPEAKER_05 13:40

No, we can disagree that you're wrong and we can move on. Like this is the hill clad in iron, I will die on. I like I said, it's it's a very good movie. It's uh near and dear to my generation. Not to me personally, but to my generation, absolutely. And the first one is an absolute, it has to be on the list of one of the greatest movies ever made for what it did. Um, but there's no way it's a Christmas movie. Not a chance in hell. You have a better chance of me saying that that Jim Carries the Grinch is a Halloween movie because of all the makeup and the dress up than Harry Potter being a Christmas movie. But I digress.

SPEAKER_09 14:21

Man, you're a tough sell. Well, okay, then all of your reasons well I know I know my next one. I know you and I agree on this one because we've had discussions.

SPEAKER_08 14:37

Yeah.

Die Hard: The Ironclad Christmas Case

SPEAKER_09 14:37

But I may I may have to take some of your arguments and maybe argue that I can't argue because I'm so I'm so uh literally diehard for this movie. This is a Christmas movie. So the one movie that I've wanted to talk about for literally since February, since our first episode of the earlier iteration of this podcast, um, is Die Hard.

SPEAKER_05 15:13

One of the greatest, arguably the greatest action film of all time.

SPEAKER_09 15:19

Yes. And I the iron, you talk about Ironclad wanting to die on a hill. Die Hard absolutely a thousand percent is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 15:32

I oh, do not pass go, do not collect$200. If you it is a Christmas movie, it is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 15:38

100%. And anyone else that says no is wrong. I know we wanted to have somebody to counter to argue the the counterpoints to this, but I don't know anyone that doesn't. I know that there are people out there this that will say this is not a Christmas movie, but I don't know those people.

SPEAKER_05 15:59

Yeah, but they just go no because there's no blah blah blah. It goes, no, that's not a legitimate no. You can't give me that shit. You can't just say no because there's no Christmas. It goes, there is Christmas. There's everything about Christmas. It takes place on Christmas Eve. There's Christmas music, there's Christmas presents. They say Christmas, there's the singing, there's literally so much fucking Christmas in this goddamn movie. There's as many Christmas as bullets.

SPEAKER_09 16:21

It takes place at an office Christmas party.

SPEAKER_05 16:23

At an office Christmas party on Christmas fucking Eve and carries over to the next day. Christmas fucking day. It's a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 16:31

And I think we can all be in agreement that it is not Christmas until Hans Gruber falls in Nakatomi Plaza.

SPEAKER_05 16:39

Nakatomi, Nakatomi, Nakatomi, Nakatomi, Nakatomi. Absolutely. For anyone who gets that reference, high five to you. We can be friends. Yeah. Um absolutely Lutley Die Hard is a Christmas movie. So what are some of the things because of my logic, this wouldn't be a Christmas movie?

SPEAKER_09 17:00

Uh okay, I'm trying to think what you went, some of the things you said.

SPEAKER_05 17:04

Um 100% of the movie happens on Christmas. Whether it's Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, it's Christmas. If it was the day before Christmas Eve, that doesn't take place on Christmas. Takes place on Christmas, 100% of the movie. There's Christmas music, there's Christmas decorations. Like I said, there's the wrapping paper. There is Hans Gruber. There's education. There's Angry Germans. And if I'm not mistaken, Santa Claus originated from like German folklore, does he not? Or something like that?

SPEAKER_09 17:34

Angry Germans.

SPEAKER_05 17:35

There's Angry Germans. Like it's, I mean, it's still overdone, it's just Germans, but still. You know what I mean? Like you cannot make the argument that it's not a Christmas movie. Just like Gremlins. You can't make the argument that Gremlins is not a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 17:53

I don't think you can make it the argument. But you know, they don't. Yeah, there's all those scenes, but they don't necessarily come out and it's not like a um what what do I want to say? It's it's not what you would think of as a traditional. I think that's where people get hung up.

What Makes A Movie A Christmas Movie

SPEAKER_05 18:16

It's not like a feel-good uh, you know, like a Christmas story kind of Yeah, it's not your traditional Christmas movie about poor people and learning lessons and togetherness and whatever the hell other Christmas movie tropes are. Right. I mean, there's incredibly loose ones of those ones. Yeah, him and his wife and blah, blah, blah, being together and overcoming this and noticing. Don't give me that shit. Like, yeah, it's not your traditional things, but it's just I need to for the people who say it's not a Christmas movie, I need to know what their I need to know their stance of why, why it's not. I do. Because what are they gonna say? Is there a message? Yeah. The message in that movie, fuck around and find out.

SPEAKER_09 19:09

So, yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people are just like, well, no, it's an action movie that just happens to take place during a holiday party, that in itself does not make it a Christmas movie. So I guess my question to you though is even though movies aren't maybe billed as a Christmas movie, what do you think do you think makes a non-Christmas movie a Christmas movie versus just not a just a movie that happens to have Christmas in it?

SPEAKER_03 19:45

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_05 19:47

Uh like I said, so at least like very bare bones to very specific. I'll do my best to kind of go for it. So far. I would say, like I said, at least half of the movie has to take place. Place on Christmas, during Christmas, or um like uh what the hell? Um because of Christmas. Like I'm not a hundred percent sure when I I I'm a little fuzzy on technically when the movie takes place, but I know um jingle all the way. It's about him hunting for the toy for his son and all the other Christmas escapades and so on. Maybe it doesn't take place on Christmas or Christmas Eve, but let's face it, Jingle all the way is a Christmas movie. Literally called Jingle All the Way. Like the fucking, but you know what I mean? So you can't just say just because of that. But there has to be other Christmas um elements to it. So like I would say I wouldn't people consider Chronicles of Narnia, the first one at least, a Christmas movie. I'm sorry, just because Santa Claus shows up doesn't fucking count. Like I said. That's saying Narnia is a Christmas movie is saying Pearl Harbor is a Christmas movie. It just doesn't, you can't just do that. It's December and Santa no. No, doesn't fucking count. Okay. Um really doesn't even have to be like the message of Christmas, whatever people say, you know, traditions and giving and caring and being equal to one another and so on and so forth, because that's in that case, like 50% of the movies ever made are Christmas movies, if you're going solely on that one. I've I'm sure if you and I actually sat down, we can come up with a legitimate list, and I would say X amount of the percent of the list has to be met. Not just one of them, but most of them would have to be met.

SPEAKER_09 21:38

Well, do you think like a movie would have to kind of have like messaging that goes along with like holiday spirit? You know, things like I don't know, love and family and people can change and community and kindness matters. Do you think those things have to be in a movie to be for it to be considered a Christmas movie?

SPEAKER_05 22:05

No, they don't have to be because one of my favorite tropes that's happening right now is every year you get like a badass older Santa who just like kills the shit out of everything.

unknown 22:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:16

Those they're they are so good. Like a wild, crazy, badass Christmas movie. All of them. So like um Fat Man. Well, Mel Gibson. For those of you who don't know, very loose synopsis this movie. Mel Gibson is Santa Claus. There's this shithead kid who was just like the absolute worst. Um picture like Elon Musk as a kid. Like what Elon Musk must have been as a kid, right? And so he was clearly on the naughty list, and so Santa didn't give him anything, or he gave him coal. And this super rich kid was so pissed he hires fucking Hitman to go kill Santa. And so Mel Gibson, he John Wicks the shit, you know, he he's that you know, Hitman are coming to kill Santa. Santa's a badass. Like, it's awesome. But that's a Christmas movie. It's literally Santa Claus because of something that, you know, a quote unquote in this kid's eyes, a wrongdoing, and it all happens like on Christmas, like the next day. Like on the of the next year. So that's clearly a Christmas movie. And all those other ones like that one. So it doesn't have the story, the trope of togetherness and all that other kind of shit like Christmas movies will. Um, but like I said, it takes place on Christmas, Santa, all the other fun stuff.

Testing The Criteria On Popular Lists

SPEAKER_09 23:39

So if if okay, if there is a party scene, if the you know, people, if one of the criteria is you have to like have to be what, attend a Christmas party or have Christmas scenes in it, is is that one of the requirements? I just happen to remember American Psycho, there's a Christmas party scene.

SPEAKER_05 24:06

Yeah, there is a Christmas party scene. There is a scene. Uh whatch you call it, but um it's just like it's just a one scene if it was like if it was like a um let's say the movie was kind of like oh shit, what is it? Hateful Eight, right? The whole movie takes place in one room.

SPEAKER_09 24:31

Right.

SPEAKER_05 24:31

One continuous scene. If like there was some murder mystery that happened and everyone was locked in this room and the whole movie took place at this party, I would consider that a Christmas movie. So if you did clue, if there was if if clue happened at a Christmas party and the whole thing was happening at the Christmas party, that would be considered a Christmas movie to me because m way over half of the movie happens at the Christmas event.

SPEAKER_09 24:56

Interesting. Your criteria is very interesting. So I have a list of movies, and these movies are on a list of non-Christmas Christmas movies, and I want to get your opinion on them.

SPEAKER_05 25:12

Sound of Music is not a Christmas movie?

SPEAKER_09 25:14

No. Okay, Iron Man Iron Man 3. I don't know why. I don't know why that's on the list, but it's on the list. No, because there's a Christmas movie. Not a Christmas movie. Okay, not a Christmas movie. Um Rocky. Wait, I gotta think. Am I Roman numerals six? Four.

unknown 25:36

No.

SPEAKER_05 25:37

What's the Roman numerals?

SPEAKER_09 25:38

IV.

SPEAKER_05 25:40

IV, that's four.

SPEAKER_09 25:42

Four, yeah. Because I do know on this one the big fight happens on Christmas Day.

SPEAKER_05 25:50

On Christmas Day. Ooh. I'm giving that one an honorable mention because that is the important part of the movie. Technically, it does happen on Christmas. There is a little bit of Christmas decorations where Paulie wears so on and so forth. That gets a solidified honorable mention. I can see, I can see the uh same as um same as Batman. I can see the connection. I can respect the connection. I don't know if I would or not.

SPEAKER_09 26:27

Some of a couple of these movies, I don't know them because I don't know that I've ever I've ever seen these. But I will ask you just in case. They have the long kiss good night. I don't remember that movie.

SPEAKER_01 26:41

No. No. No.

SPEAKER_09 26:44

And oh so they also have Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. I have no idea what that movie is.

SPEAKER_01 26:49

Never seen that one.

SPEAKER_09 26:50

Yeah. Uh and The Nice Guys don't know what that movie is either.

SPEAKER_05 26:54

Nice guys. Nice guys was funny. Um nah.

SPEAKER_09 26:59

Nah. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:04

Honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 27:05

Honorable mention. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

Honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 27:08

Um, I feel like I've seen this movie, but I'm not like I don't know it enough to say one way or the other. Reindeer games.

SPEAKER_05 27:21

Let me let me check something really quick. I'm right on the fence.

SPEAKER_09 27:25

Um the funny thing is, this is like one of the ones, the one of the only ones that has like uh like a parentheses by the and it says it tries to be Christmas, bless its heart. I don't know. I've never seen this movie.

SPEAKER_06 27:38

Yeah, it's um isn't that what's isn't that Afflex Jack Ryan movie? Oh, isn't that's probably why I never I think it's his Jack Ryan movie. Um give me a second, give me a second.

SPEAKER_09 27:58

Um I can't wait to tell you this next movie. I know you've seen it. I've seen it. I I fucking love this movie. But I'll let you get the reindeer games out of your system first.

SPEAKER_05 28:17

Reindeer games gets an honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 28:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

I I I give I mean a strong honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 28:24

Okay, you ready?

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Let's go for it.

SPEAKER_09 28:28

I can't wait for your uh for the emotion that's gonna come out in you in bruges. Is that how you say it? You've seen this.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

Are you pronouncing it right?

SPEAKER_09 28:49

N B-R-U-D-E-S. N Please tell me you've seen this.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Give me a second, give me a second, give me a second, give me a second.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Oh, um fucking isn't Colin Farrell like a hitman or some shit like that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I was like, wait a minute, I know this. Hold on. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_05 29:10

Absolutely.

unknown 29:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:14

Who says it's not?

SPEAKER_09 29:16

I don't know. It's it's lit, it is legitimately on a list of not non-Christmas Christmas movies.

SPEAKER_05 29:21

That's a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 29:23

I agree with that. Uh as soon as I saw that, I was like, oh yeah, yeah, that's definitely a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

I know this movie. Hold on. You just had to give me a second.

SPEAKER_09 29:32

Yeah. Um, and then they have uh I don't know that movie either. Um we'll just skip it. Now I found this to be an interesting on the list. Uh Mean Girls. Because of a Jingle Bell Rock talent show.

SPEAKER_05 29:50

I'll give it an honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 29:54

See, I don't think there's enough. There that to me, it does that's not enough to say it's a Christmas movie.

Wild Cards: Eyes Wide Shut To Prometheus

SPEAKER_05 30:01

It's an honorable mention because one, it's a great scene. Two, it's one of the it's arguably the most memorable scene in the movie. Or at least the scene that everyone remembers. It's it's quoted or it's um not parodied, but like it's referenced throughout the holidays for some um uh whatcha call it commercials and all sorts of kind of fun shit. It gets an honorable mention. It's not a Chrysus movie, but I won't fight to the death that it's not. I'm not very passionate about it.

SPEAKER_09 30:42

Very passionate.

SPEAKER_05 30:43

Yeah, like I said, if you're gonna ask me, I'm gonna say if it has to be shit or get off the pot, it's a no. If I'm allowed to give an honorable mention, it gets an honorable mention.

SPEAKER_09 30:50

Okay, I'll give you that. Alright, Ghostbusters 2.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

No.

SPEAKER_09 30:56

No? It's center on the holidays.

SPEAKER_04 30:59

It is center on the holidays. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 31:03

I think it at least gets an honorable mention.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

Yeah, it gets an honorable mention. It has been a long time since I've seen it, so that's why I was just immediately know just to be a dick. But um Yeah, I'll give it, I'll give it an honorable mention. It has been a very long time since I've seen it.

SPEAKER_09 31:21

Um, some of these are so stupid. I can't, I don't even want to mention them.

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Oh, please, please.

SPEAKER_09 31:28

Okay. Uh The Thing.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

No. No. No hell. I love that movie so much, but not a chance, not a chance.

SPEAKER_09 31:38

Like this is just, it's one of those, okay, it's just because it's set in winter does not make it a Christmas movie. Like it's not a Christmas movie. I don't know why it's on this list. I can wholeheartedly say the thing is not a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 31:53

The thing? Yeah, but it's not just winter, it's fucking Antarctica.

unknown 31:57

Right.

SPEAKER_09 31:58

Just because there's snow doesn't it's perma winter.

SPEAKER_05 32:00

Exactly. Just because it's yeah, just because there's snow, it doesn't um it doesn't take place during now. If I would now, once we become super popular podcasters and also that kind of fun shit, and people come back and realize I don't necessarily remember right now if in the back of the if in the back, you know, what the fuck it in the background, if there's a calendar and you can see if you if someone can prove to me that the movie takes place on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day, I will allow it. But to my knowledge, it's just winter and in Antarctica. Right. Does not count.

SPEAKER_09 32:42

Right.

SPEAKER_05 32:43

Does not count.

SPEAKER_09 32:44

No, I agree. Um, let's see. Oh, they have they do have American Psycho on this.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Um, no, it doesn't count. Nope.

SPEAKER_09 32:53

Oh, interesting. Okay, they do have the Chronicles of Narnia on here.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

Like I said, Santa and Snow doesn't fucking count. Move on.

SPEAKER_09 33:01

Okay, they they have Edward Scissors hand scissor hands.

SPEAKER_05 33:05

Ooh, snow and someone says Merry Christmas. No.

SPEAKER_09 33:08

Yeah. Um, Rise of the Guardians. I think this is a stretch. No.

SPEAKER_05 33:18

That's a real stretch. That's not even an honorable mention. That's a stretch. Just because Santa's in the movie. That's uh what was what was what's his name?

SPEAKER_06 33:28

What was Sandman's shtick in that one?

SPEAKER_05 33:33

Give me a second. I I'm literally Googling it right now. Because don't get me wrong. I love that movie. I really love that movie. And I always break your chops. Alright, fuck it. I'll just cut to the chains with this one. Lauren cracked one of the best jokes that she ever did with that. When that movie first came out, she was in college, and we like we like red boxed it or something like that one. And we're watching it, and uh I love that movie. I think I think it's fantastic. Um if you haven't seen that movie, Santa is Russian in that movie. And uh I just said something about it, whatever. I just like, oh, I don't know if Santa was Russian, and she just goes, Yeah, of course he is, rushing to get to all them houses. I fucking I died. I absolutely died. It was so fucking funny. She cracked that joke to this day, to this day. At least once a month, we like reference that. She just goes, Rushing to get to all them any to this day. We still at least think back on that joke at least once a month. It's fucking hysterical. But uh that movie's badass. I really like that movie.

SPEAKER_09 34:50

Now, this one, uh you may not be familiar with it, but this is this movie holds a special place in my heart. And I can see why it's on this. And I I would, yeah, I would say this is a Christmas movie, is uh Little Women.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

Little Women.

SPEAKER_09 35:12

Because like a lot of the main scenes, I know it like go, it's it's a movie that goes through time, right? So, but most of the major events happen during Christmas time throughout the like when Jo gets sick, it's because it was Christmas and she was taking uh Christmas food to a family that was, I think what I don't know if they were sick. I'm trying to think, was it it was the scarlet fever or they were it some kind of like illness, yeah. And that's how she contracted that. Not was it Jo? No, not Joe. Um the the younger, the young sister that never got to go out and experience the world. Um, but like you know, the scene where the dad comes home, he comes home while you know at at Christmas time, and there's there's you know at the table uh or uh around the piano singing Christmas songs and yeah, you know, yeah, I'll give you a lot of things. I I I definitely think Little Women is a non-Christmas Christmas movie. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:22

Yeah, that one, that one, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 36:26

Okay. Now these last three are absolutely fucking unhinged. Are you ready?

SPEAKER_03 36:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 36:34

They have on this list, um, in in this one is the title is uh they are the are you sure this counts category. Are you sure this counts? Oh god. Eyes wide shut. No make a footnote that it has the most Christmas lights per minute ratio in cinema. It has been I d I I I can't imagine how anyone would put this on a list.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_09 37:12

No.

SPEAKER_01 37:14

Batman Forever Batman Forever.

SPEAKER_09 37:21

I can't. I think this is way too much of a stretch.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Hold on. Batman Forever? What makes Batman Forever Christmas?

SPEAKER_09 37:34

I don't know. I mean, other than again, it's set in a wintry Gotham. But again.

SPEAKER_05 37:45

Halloween is one of the things. One of the scenes in the movie happens on Halloween night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 37:49

They have it on the list.

SPEAKER_05 37:51

Holiday or Christmas? Christmas. Wow, they are fucking wrong. Like, no. Absolutely not. Halloween happens on one of the scenes happens on Halloween night.

SPEAKER_09 38:04

Someone said these last three are unhinged.

SPEAKER_05 38:06

That's unhinged. Though I will say this one thing. Rest in peace, Val Kilmer.

Classics We Missed And Personal Traditions

SPEAKER_01 38:11

Miss him. Literally the day. It was literally the day that he had passed. And we were getting ready.

SPEAKER_05 38:16

It was a little bit later on in the night, and Lake Lauren asked her, I was like, oh, you know, we we gotta watch a movie or something like that. Val Kilmer in and I was just like, listen, I know you're gonna fucking love the goddamn movie, motherfucker Tombstone and Heat, but we ain't got almost three hours to watch a movie right now. We got about an hour and a half, maybe two hours if we're lucky. How about Batman Forever? And she said, fine, I don't mind Batman. That was the first time I've seen Batman in quite some time. And upon watching that movie, I about halfway through, I go, huh. A lot of stuff is starting to make sense now. I was obsessed with that movie when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_08 38:54

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_05 38:54

Oh, I fucking loved that movie. When that movie came out, I was the Riddler for that Halloween, and that was like a record-breaking um Halloween for me. I absolutely loved it. Whenever we had to rent the movie, and it was my turn to rent them to pick the movie What We Rented from like Tommy Cage or something like that one. I always picked Batman Forever. I fucking loved that movie, and I haven't seen it in for fuck ever, no pun intended. And then we watched it. It was the first time I've seen it in well over a decade, decade and a half. I'm sitting there, I was like, a lot of stuff in my life is really starting to make sense.

SPEAKER_09 39:30

Do you think you're influenced by that movie?

SPEAKER_05 39:33

Wildly. Unnecessarily. There's a lot of that entire movie is sexual tension and bad jokes. That is all that movie is. That movie is two hours of a lot of hair dye, fantastic makeup, and a lot of sexual tension. I just about halfway through, it's like, wow.

SPEAKER_09 39:57

So that's why I am the way that I am.

unknown 40:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:00

Huh. That's where. That's interesting.

SPEAKER_09 40:03

All right. This n this the very last one. I would assume that you're gonna fall out of your chair because this one is so I I have looked at this I don't know how long I I don't get it. Prometheus.

SPEAKER_05 40:20

Please tell me there's notes.

SPEAKER_09 40:22

I need to see that this has and it says the it's Christmas captain scene. This is not a Christmas, this is not a non-Christmas Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

It is That is like if anyone had like a legitimate excuse or an argument to prove if they were gonna go like if they were going with if for whatever reason someone was going to um uh argue that it was like uh an Easter movie, we'll say, right? Because of religious uh connections and the undertones of that one of exploration, birth, and rebirth and creation and the um you know death and the inevitable, rebirth and the the reconstruction of species of of a person and so on. If you were to go that route, a deep religious route, like the tones of it, I'll allow it. If you were gonna make that argument for Jurassic Park, I'll allow it. I swear to God, I will make because Spiel, I s I swear to God, if you were going the religious tone route and say that Jurassic Park was an Easter movie, I'll allow it. Prometheus is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_09 41:42

No, no, no, no, no, and the other one I skipped over, but I because I don't even know why it's on a non-Christmas Christmas list. They have Krampus, and I'm like Krampus is literally Krampus is literally he is. It is Christmas. How is that a non-Christmas Christmas movie? It is a Christmas movie.

SPEAKER_05 42:09

You're with a Santa Claus other than a Christmas movie because it's the year that didn't have a Santa Claus. Get fucked! Like I will say this though, Santa Claus is coming to town is one of my favorites because I love Birgo Meister Meister Birga. I love that guy. He's funny.

SPEAKER_09 42:26

Who is this?

SPEAKER_05 42:28

Santa Claus is coming to town. Oh, yeah, that's right. You like, man. Fucking Colts, man. Did you like not see any of those movies growing up at all?

SPEAKER_09 42:40

No. What movie are you talking about?

SPEAKER_06 42:42

Uh, Santa Claus is coming to town.

SPEAKER_05 42:45

Well, like all the Christmas movies, the claymation Christmas movies from like the 60s or the 70s, something like that. Rudolph, Santa Claus is coming to town, year without Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_09 42:54

I've seen Rudolph.

SPEAKER_05 42:56

Oh, we literally we were literally talking about it this morning. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Island Miss Fitz toys a lot of fun shit. Okay. I was about to say that.

SPEAKER_09 43:01

I've seen that, and I've seen Frosty the Snowman.

SPEAKER_04 43:05

Christmas Snowman.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

Everyone knows that, everyone knows that Rudolph is the best one. Rudolph is the best one, followed closely by A Year Without Santa Claus with Heat Miser and Snow Miser. And then Santa Claus is coming to town with Burgermeister Meister Burger. Like it's so fucking great.

SPEAKER_09 43:23

I don't remember ever seeing that one. Santa Claus is coming to town now.

SPEAKER_05 43:28

Yeah, that's like the OG. That's like the that's like the OG like origin story of Santa Claus, like about the dude Chris Kringle, and he like makes the toys and delivers them. But like the the fucking town that he goes to deliver them in, the whatcha call it, the uh you know, the the the mayor, the tyrant that runs it or something like that one. Burgermeister Meister Burger. Um he uh he outlaws toys and fun and all this other kind of fun stuff, but just the voice actors are really fucking funny.

SPEAKER_09 43:55

I have to go back and watch that one. Yeah. There's a lot of like traditional holiday movies that you know I need to go back and and watch. I will say, even though like, you know, we didn't celebrate growing up, I always enjoyed a Christmas story.

SPEAKER_03 44:16

Hey, who's got two thumbs is ready to piss everybody off? That's right, this guy!

SPEAKER_09 44:21

You hate that movie.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

Never seen it.

SPEAKER_09 44:25

What?

SPEAKER_05 44:27

Never seen it.

SPEAKER_09 44:30

You don't know anything about the Red Rider baby gun?

Die Hard Trivia And Favorite Background Gaffes

SPEAKER_05 44:33

I know everything about the movie. Never seen it. I know the lamp, the shoot your eye out kid, the bunny suit, the whole fing everything about it. Um nope, never seen it, not once.

SPEAKER_09 44:48

You really should watch it. It's it's it's just a good classic.

SPEAKER_04 44:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 44:54

I can tell you one that I still have never I've never watched. Um it was that old black and white, what's it called? Uh I can't even think of the name of it. But it's like the holiday traditional movie everyone watches.

SPEAKER_05 45:09

Is that Miracle on 34th Street? Maybe it's uh It's a wonderful It's a Wonderful Life. It's a wonderful life. It's a wonderful life.

SPEAKER_09 45:16

It's a wonderful life. I'm telling you, but the only scene that I think I've ever seen in my entire life is um like he's going into a store and there's a bell ringing, and the guy says an angel got its wings. Yep. That's the only scene I've never like sat down and watched that movie from beginning to end. Never.

SPEAKER_05 45:40

Yeah, oh God, I've shit, man. Everyone, man, everyone's like from my older generations is like obsessed with that movie. And it is good. I remember seeing it and it being uh it it is a good movie. It it is a it is a fantastic classic uh Christmas movie. It's just it's it's it's dated. It's the movie's black and white, it's very old.

unknown 46:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 46:03

Um but it's um No, it it is good. It's it's a good one. Same with uh Miracle on 34th Street. I want to say that's like my mother-in-law's I want to say that one's like her favorite Christmas movie and like one of her favorite movies, period, if I'm not mistaken. She loves that movie. That's a that is a very, very good. That's a very cute one, too.

SPEAKER_09 46:23

For me, I guess, you know, when we talk about like traditions and you know, you you kind of like make your own traditions coming out of you know the weird existence that I've come out of. Um Christmas was always diehard for me, you know, like die hard and then a Star Wars marathon.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Hell yeah, that's what I'm fucking talking about.

SPEAKER_09 46:48

It's just that for me, Christmas means I'm gonna have a Star Wars marathon and I'm gonna watch Die Hard on Christmas Eve. And I try to time no, this is I try to time it so like right at midnight is when Hans Groomerf Grouper falls.

SPEAKER_05 47:08

That's fantastic.

SPEAKER_09 47:09

Try to time it.

SPEAKER_05 47:10

I love the little the little tidbits that you get. So I I think it was AMC that would do it. They would show movies, they would show the movie twice, they would they would do like back to backs, like double features of the movie, right? And they would just play the movie as regular, and then they would do like behind the scenes little extra shit that was like remember pop-up video on PH1? And it had little bitch bitch, yeah, bits about this and the other thing. So AMC would do that where they would have a little thing in the bottom of the screen, and that it was just little uh I called it the uh I call it the uh the broken toe commentary because like in the two towers the dude kicks it. Hey, do you know Vega Martinson broke his toe on that one? Like that guy. That's kind of what it is. It would be little bits about like this scene was ad-lib. This, you know, this uh this extra right here is Jeffrey Dean Morgan, you know, just shit like that. Yeah. Like little tidbit stuff you didn't know about the movie. And the one I learned from that one that I absolutely loved was that when they shot that scene, Alan Rickman was absolutely scared shitless about doing that one because they had him set like however high up on this, you know, like a hundred feet up on this, like moving in the scaffolding, and they say, okay, this is what we're gonna do. Just hold on to this one. Well, one, you know, we'll drop you on three. Juan dropped him. They dropped him on like the T of two to get his genuine reaction, which I love that kind of shit.

SPEAKER_09 48:29

I love that, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:30

And the um the scene where he's going down the elevator shaft and whatever, the um the prop broke. So like he wasn't like the gun wasn't supposed to break, and he like falls down and catches himself. Um the prop actually broke when they were shooting that scene. And Bruce, that's Bruce Willis. They were supposed to just kind of get the shot, and then the like stunt dude was supposed to like, you know, they're supposed to like get him out of there and then do the thing where he just like lets go and he like goes down to the floor right below him.

SPEAKER_08 48:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:56

Well, the prop breaks, and Bruce Willis like freaks out and he like bangs him off the thing and actually catches himself like what three or four stories down or something.

SPEAKER_07 49:03

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 49:03

Yeah, yeah. That was a fun one. Yeah, that was the two things that I absolutely loved, like the little extra shit from that movie that were great.

SPEAKER_09 49:10

The thing that cracks me, I watch for this every time I watch it. There's this, there's a guy. He's I you know, he's just sent one of these extras. And I know that this man probably went and rehearsed this line so many times. Like he has one line in the movie, and he cracks me up every single time. It's when they're gonna send in the armored car.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 49:40

And he just they just panned this guy and he's like, send in the car, send in like the way the way that he says it though. I'm just like, I know that he was so like excited to get to get a role, to get that line, and he practiced that line so many times. The delivery of that line cracks me up every single time.

SPEAKER_05 50:07

Oh, it is send in the car. It's so great. It's so great. That's like the that is the that was definitely his thing. Oh, that's an interesting, fun fact bunch stuff. I'm in diehard. Like, you know what I mean? On his deathbed. You have any regrets? Not diehard, that's for sure. Did you know I was in diehard?

unknown 50:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 50:31

Oh man, it I just it cracks me up.

SPEAKER_05 50:34

God, I love like shitty scenes and shitty lines and great movies. They're great.

SPEAKER_09 50:39

Oh, yeah, it's like, you know, you watch a movie so many times, you start looking at things in the background. You ever do that?

SPEAKER_02 50:47

Oh, all the time. I do.

SPEAKER_09 50:48

I'm that way with Caddy Shack. I've watched that movie so many times. Like when you stop and like pay attention and you start looking at things in the background, there's some of the most hilarious things that happen in the background of so many of those scenes. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 51:08

Or you notice like inconsistencies with uh with movies, like very subtle inconsistencies. I'm not even talking about like the ones with um Jurassic Park with like the door being open and shit like that. Or the um or in the the original theatrical cut of Raiders of the Lost Ark where you see the reflection of the glass.

SPEAKER_09 51:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 51:27

Um I'm talking about like legit like minor inconsistency with um uh whatchallow with movies like that. They're so funny. Like just just props wrong, like something in the back, like uh I I can't think of something right now, but something along the lines of like um there's a pot like it's taking place in like a diner or something. You see the pot of coffee behind the uh the counter, and then like the waitress comes over and goes, What'll it be, honey? And like it's a full pot of coffee, and then they go to the person takes their order, and then they come back half a second later, and it's like an empty pot of coffee. And then they go back to him, Are you sure you want that? He goes, Yes, I'm sure. They cut back over their shoulder and it's a full fucking pot of coffee again. Like small shit like that.

SPEAKER_09 52:11

Yeah, I love that.

SPEAKER_05 52:12

I love. Or there was another one that I'll I'll uh that's pretty uh that's pretty good. Is um fuck. It's the d I don't remember what movie it is. I just remember it's the uh the dude from Grey's Anatomy that everybody loves. What's his name? Patrick Dempsey. Oh. Patrick Dempsey, right? So it's so it's him. Uh he's the the scene is he's like in an argument with like his girlfriend and she breaks up with him, right? And he's like completely clean shaven, perfectly clean shaven, right? And his hair is like parted to the right. And then she like, I'm out of here, and she like storms out of there and like you know, like leaves, and he goes running down this big, like you know, like he goes chasing her down the stairs, whatever. I always make the joke like, man, that's a really long fucking elevator because like his hair is parted the other way and he's got five o'clock shadow. And then he like throws his hands up and she drives away in the taxi and he has like sulks his face and he goes back inside and walks back upstairs. His hair is parted again and perfectly clean shaven. Oh wow. Yeah, it's it's it's little shit like that that she does. I'll just and I only saw I don't remember what movie that was. I didn't watch the whole movie. I just remember that one scene, and I'm like, you screwed up.

SPEAKER_09 53:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah, those are great to catch. There's another one too. I can ah shit. I'll have to go and write a whole list. That'll be another episode, little screw-ups in movies.

SPEAKER_09 53:39

Yeah. I I can remember watching um watching Game of Thrones and clocking the um Oh, the cup. The cup.

SPEAKER_05 53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 53:50

The Starbucks cup. Yeah.

Closing: Tell Us Your Non‑Christmas Christmas Picks

SPEAKER_05 53:52

I saw, see, I didn't see that because we didn't watch it with the rest of the world. We watched it during lockdown. So once it was like all done and we watched it like you know, the episodes were like a week delayed. So like it premiered, and then when the second episode came on, the first episode was you could stream and so on and so forth. So by the time we went to go watch that episode, they had caught it and edited it, and so on and so forth. I did see the extra, or like the boom mic guy from The Mandalorian, though. I did see that guy. And uh public public enemies, Johnny Depp. Playing Don uh John Dillinger. Uh during the uh the infamous, you know, the the bank robbery that made him super famous and like right in the middle of the movie there. Um when they go on the thing and they go to drive away, um, you know, all the old cars are there and so on and so forth, but perfectly parked as like uh 2006 like Jeep Grand Cherokee, right in the shot, clear as fucking day. Oh man. Like there's all like these like 1930s and for but that's what's hysterical to me is that there's like three cars in front of it and like three cars behind it that are like 1930s and 1940s like Fords, and then there's just like a 2000 whatever Jeep. So it's not like it was on the end or like it just drove like the camera was angled wrong where like the end of the set was, it was parked, dead center of the shot.

SPEAKER_09 55:13

Right, and you wonder like how does that happen? How does no one because many people that's on a set? Yeah how how does everyone just get that blind? Yeah, yeah, that's a new bigger one.

SPEAKER_05 55:27

And then an editing, because because like during that scene, there's like the police outside, they have it surrounded, so like there's extras that like tip cover behind this fucking thing. Like there was a lot of people around this car. Yeah, it's pretty fucking funny.

SPEAKER_04 55:43

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

I love shit like that, man. Anywho, but I digress.

SPEAKER_09 55:50

Yeah. Well, uh I think that's gonna do it for this episode. Um if you've learned anything today, it's that Harry Potter's not a fucking Christmas movie. Half of the movies we watch in December aren't really Christmas movies. But we're stubborn about them because they are Christmas movies. Right? No, wrong if you're gonna disagree with me.

SPEAKER_05 56:24

Um, I just smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.

SPEAKER_09 56:30

Smile and wave, boys, smile and wave.

SPEAKER_05 56:34

I'm literally like turning in my chair right now, like turning myself back and forth and just waving at the wall.

SPEAKER_09 56:43

Well, guys, thanks for hanging out for this episode. Uh, we think you should go watch something and then we can argue about it in the comments. Tell us what your favorite non-Christmas Christmas movie is, and we'll give you our honest opinion.

SPEAKER_05 56:59

I'll tell you what I want to say. Is another thing we're gonna do. If you are one of those fucking psychopaths out there who thinks that Die Hard is not a Christmas movie, for the love of God, please let us know. We would love to have you on and absolutely verbally assault you into proving you wrong.

SPEAKER_09 57:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 57:18

I mean, we would love to have you as oh, okay, I can't say that. Oh yeah. We would love to have you on as a guest and have a nice, friendly discuss discussion, chat, a lovely chat.

SPEAKER_09 57:27

A lovely chat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 57:29

The differences of opinion. I'm reading off my cue cards right now, but it's not loading. Differences of opinions and why that's an important thing to have in an equal and fair society. Thank you. Angela. Oh no, that's where she's speaking. Never mind. Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_09 57:48

Well, again, thanks for listening to our Christmas movie, non-Christmas movie Ramble. And uh that's it. That's it. We'll see you next episode if you want to do a honk.