S1E7: Gabby Gooses: Games & Gratitude

A party game goes sideways, and suddenly we’re crying laughing over “Cockney” turned “cock knee” and “Filipino” misread as “flip a piano.” That spark of chaos opens a door to something bigger: how we label ourselves and our siblings, why DnD classes feel like personality tests with dice, and how the best stories invite us to play as we are. We trade tips for first-time players, talk about the unspoken pact to outsmart the DM, and celebrate the movie that actually got the Dungeons and Dragons tone right without smothering new fans.

Audiobooks take center stage with Dungeon Crawler Carl, a series that feels like raid loot for your ears. We break down why it works for busy brains—sharp narration, crunchy stats, NPCs with bite—and how that structure mirrors the dopamine of tabletop sessions. From there we zoom out: Warcraft’s serious streak, the Minecraft movie’s easy charm, and why Henry Cavill’s Warhammer 40K passion might finally crack the code for adapting lore that’s deeper than most history syllabi. If you geek out about worldbuilding, this is your candy shop.

Then we land in the real world with leathercraft: ounce weights, casing and hardening, and what ancient armorers likely did to keep fighters protected and moving. It’s oddly soothing to hear how stubborn materials become wearable history, and it connects back to the theme we keep returning to—craft, patience, and the joy of making something that lasts. We close with a candid talk about rough years, therapy, and choosing gratitude without pretending the pain wasn’t real. The data says people are listening from the other side of the globe. That still blows our minds, and it reminds us that a laugh shared between strangers is still a form of belonging.

If this episode gave you a laugh, a nudge to try DnD, or a reason to be a little more grateful today, tap follow, share it with a friend, and leave a quick review. Tell us your DnD class or where you’re listening from—we’re reading every note.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open And Banter
• 1:14 Party Game Misreads And Family Comedy
• 6:40 Classifying Siblings By Smarts And DnD Roles
• 11:57 DnD 101: Play Styles And DM Chaos
• 17:40 Dungeon Crawler Carl And Audiobook Joy
• 22:20 Gateway Films: DnD, Warcraft, And Minecraft
• 27:45 Warhammer 40K, Henry Cavill, And Lore Scale
• 31:20 Leathercraft As Ancient Armor And Craft Realities
• 40:10 Editing Woes And Video Podcast Dreams
• 43:35 A Rough Year, Humor, And Choosing Gratitude
• 49:05 Global Listeners, Shared Moments, And Connection
• 56:55 Signoff, Thanks, And Hate-Listen Jokes

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:14

Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.

SPEAKER_01: 0:39

And we're back. Hey, all you cool cats and kittens. I really hope that doesn't just fuck up your ears. Welcome back to another riveting and exciting episode of the Silly Goose Society podcast. I am your host. Um, what the hell is my name right now? Whatever. I'm Kyle. This is Ange. We don't know what to do. We're just gonna talk, and hopefully you listen. Ange?

SPEAKER_03: 1:01

Hi.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03

Thanks for listening to the Silly Goose Society Podcast.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07

That's it. This is the shortest episode ever.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09

Goodbye, yeah. Nah, we always just figure it kind of fun to just kind of get on here and exactly that, just be silly gooses. But you said something about what, the Philippines or whatever you said?

SPEAKER_03: 1:25

Yeah, I'm not repeating what I said.

SPEAKER_01: 1:27

Okay. Anywho, I just you something made me think of this story. So, many moons ago. Picture this. Sicily. 1922. It really wasn't that. It was picture this. West Haven, Connecticut, like eight years ago.

unknown: 1:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:46

Um so uh what the hell was that? Uh I think the game was yeah, the game was called Heads Up, right? Well they had an app.

SPEAKER_03: 1:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:55

And, you know, Cindy, you had that game you play on your phone. For those of you who don't know what it is, you know, okay, you you would hold your phone on top of your on top, like on your forehead, and the people in front of you that you were playing with, they have to try to give you like clues or act something out or whatever the fuck it is for you to guess what it is, and then you get the point, move on, so on and so forth. So one of the categories was um like accents and impressions and stuff like that. And so, yeah, there's you know, it'll say all sorts of different um you know exactly that accents, or it'll be like famous people, it'll say Arnold Schwarzenegger, Christopher Walken, uh British or whatever it is, right? Oh god. What's really funny, if you ever play this game, I cannot recommend enough that you play with someone as how do I put this um fucking stupid as my younger brother. Just kidding. He's not he's not stupid. He's he's he's very he's specifically intelligent, just like his older brother. Anyhow, um it's just he doesn't really he does he's I can't talk much to it because he has the same vocabulary that I do, not the best. But he also doesn't know what some things are. So I wish we had video for this, for some of them.

SPEAKER_00: 3:16

But he's watching We're playing this game.

SPEAKER_01: 3:23

And I I I have it, it's the the the access impressions are up here on my forehead, and my older brother's just like, I don't know how to do that accent, and my younger brother is just like, What? I don't get so he's pointing to like his um his his no no his no-no spots and then like his leg, like lower. I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, it's like there's a timer going, you have to see how many you can get at a time. So it's like you're yelling and you're shouting, you're trying to go really fast, and you're just getting louder and louder when someone's not getting not getting it right. It's a jackal, jackal, jackal, it's a jackal, it's not a jackal, it's a jack, it's not a jackal. You know that kind of shit? Yeah, yeah. So he's like, he's just like very aggressively, like pointing to his no-nos and to like his legs, and I was just like, what? Huh? And Buzzer goes off, and I turn the phone around and I look at it, and it's a cockney accent.

SPEAKER_00: 4:16

She's like, knee, cockney, cockney. I was like, oh my fucking God.

SPEAKER_03: 4:22

That's actually pretty good though.

SPEAKER_01: 4:24

That was really funny, but I was like, what are you not doing, man? We fell the fuck out with that one. Everyone else takes their turn back to me. And I was like, okay, with that one, accents and impressions. That's the only one I went with for like every time that I was playing, because I because my younger brother can't do impressions or accents that well.

SPEAKER_00: 4:46

So I always chose that one to poke the bear of his of his uh creativity, right?

SPEAKER_03: 4:55

Do you know what that reminds me of?

SPEAKER_00: 4:58

What?

SPEAKER_03: 4:58

On We're the Millers. Blackcock Down!

SPEAKER_00: 5:03

It's a big, big cock, it's a big cock. Blackcock down! That fucking scene is so funny.

unknown: 5:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 5:14

Oh, yeah. But I think the the one that rivals that is I learned something. Both of my brothers have never seen this word spelled out before. And my younger, my older brother, once again, was just like, dude, I don't know what that is. And so my younger brother, he's so puzzled, and he's like, What? And he's like moving his hands back and forth, like he's doing like weird jazz hands, but then looks like he's pissed off and he's like throwing the table in Monopoly, like he's like throwing something, like flipping something. And then he's like, And he's kind of like dancing around or whatever, and then he's doing like a bad Ray Charles impression. I was like, what are you doing? I was like, Ray Charp, what? Like blues? Like, what is what is it? I'm I'm the I'm tired of this grandpa. What the fuck are you doing? Because he's he's no one's laughing, like everyone's just so puzzled. Like, what is even going on? Timer goes off, it's over. I look at it, but he goes he goes, before I even get a chance to look at it, he goes, like, what the fuck is flip a piano? And I look at it and I go, that says Filipino, you uncultured swine.

SPEAKER_00: 6:26

It said Filipino. And he's I thought it said flip a piano.

SPEAKER_01: 6:30

And he was like, what the hell kind of an accent is flip a piano? I was like, what? The actual fuck.

SPEAKER_03: 6:41

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01: 6:43

Yeah. He saw the word petite when he was like 13 years old and he's like, it's his pet titties. And I'm like, oh fuck. He uh he ain't the brightest bulb in the picnic.

SPEAKER_03: 6:55

Oh, every family has one.

SPEAKER_01: 6:57

Two of them mine, actually. Oh no, it would absolutely me. It's me and my younger brother. Million percent. Million percent. It's me and my younger brother. Oh, I don't know how my parents did it. I really don't.

SPEAKER_03: 7:18

Yeah, I'm definitely the dumber one between me and my brother.

SPEAKER_01: 7:21

You know, the first step's admitting it, you know?

SPEAKER_03: 7:23

Yeah. Yeah, I can admit it. I can freely admit it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 7:27

I'll always say this, and when my mother's not around, my father agrees with me. But when my mother's around, my dad just kind of like, I ain't fucking involved in this bye. Um, I will always say this. I think it's kind of funny. So three boys. We went to three different high schools. One went to private Catholic high school, one went to trade school, one went to just the local public high school. You have three very different boys that grew up in the same house, the same, the same everything. You have three very different boys.

SPEAKER_03: 8:03

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01: 8:05

Yeah. My oldest brother, my older brother, he's the one who went to private Catholic school. He went to Notre Dame, West Haven. Um, I think shot for shot, question for question, he he is the smartest of the three of us. He is the most book smart of the three of us. He's pretty quick with math and he got a solid education with also the kind of fun stuff of different history and other things. Yeah, we all excel in other things and so on and so forth, but I think genuinely he has the actual like highest IQ out of the three of us. But you know.

SPEAKER_03: 8:38

Hey.

SPEAKER_01: 8:39

Not the most street saddle.

SPEAKER_03: 8:40

I was gonna say, yeah, book smarts doesn't always equal street smarts. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01: 8:46

Not the he's not the most street smart. He's like I said, he's not the worst, he's not gullible, he's not a fucking doofus. I'm not saying like, but if we just got it, if you're looking at his, you know, his charts, like DD kind of shit and whatever, he's definitely the wizard. Hands down, he's the wizard. Uh I like to think I'm I I genuinely like to think I'm about 50-50. I know there's some things that I, you know, I I know some of my strengths when it comes to like when we went to bar trivia, give me the science ones, give me the history ones, that kind of shit. Like I certain topics I know I'm very, very good at. I also know some topics not the best at. And Street Smarts, yeah, I've been I've been around the ways. I've been around the ways a couple times. I'm humbled. I'm it's not everything. I ain't perfect, but you know.

SPEAKER_03: 9:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 9:38

Younger brother, hardest of opposites of my older brother when it comes to that one. I'm not saying he's dumb, but he he's not he's not being my phone. If I had four phone of friends, he'd be my seventh call on the Who Wants to be a Millionaire. You know what I mean? I've I'm calling a total stranger at like pizza joint before I'm calling him. Love him to death. But you know. Um but you want to talk about someone who's been around the ways and like just that. I think certain parts of the internet will call it just like dude math or like just like man math, like him all the way. And he fucking makes it work. Hands down, 100%. No questions asked.

SPEAKER_03: 10:24

So would he be like in D D would he be like a rogue?

SPEAKER_01: 10:31

Oh god. I'm classifying my brothers. Um but the um with like barred tendencies with his with some of his uh like I think I've said it once, twice, a hundred times. People think I'm funny. I ain't shit compared to him. I think I think he is insanely funnier. Um and his his quick wit is I swear to god, you you get whiplash. He's so fucking fast sometimes. He is fucking hysterical. Um But I would say he's a bit of like a like a rogue and like a bard. I'd say a little bit, because of like his charisma and his quick wit. He's always got something. He's reminds me of a more cautious Indiana Jones. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 11:26

Oh, yeah. Huh.

SPEAKER_01: 11:27

Or like like Indiana Jones or uh or uh no, not Indiana Jones, the other Harrison Ford. Han Solo. He's very Han Solo. I swear to God. He always the other Harrison Ford um gets himself in a lot of sticky situations, but if he can't bullshit his way out of it, damn it, he's gonna find a way to fight his way out of it. Like and and he'll always get out of it. Always.

SPEAKER_03: 11:51

What I then what would you be?

SPEAKER_01: 11:54

Uh I am a Captain Jack in this situation. Shit just kind of happens, and I'm drunk like 50% of the time.

SPEAKER_03: 12:00

No, I've like in D.

unknown: 12:02

D.

SPEAKER_03: 12:03

D terms.

SPEAKER_01: 12:04

D D. Probably a Rogue Ranger.

SPEAKER_03: 12:08

Yeah. I I don't. I mean, I've never well, I mean, I've played World of Warcraft, so I I've never played DD. Uh but do they have paladins? I would I've I've always thought of it.

SPEAKER_01: 12:23

Oh yeah, oh that's that's where that's where paladin came from. Absolutely not a paladin. Not a chance in hell am I a paladin. No fucking way. The closest thing you can get because of like my morals and my kind heart at best is like a cleric. That's the best you're getting from me. And even that is like I it's a bit more of the um uh whatchall it? Uh chaotic good in a way. So very Robin Hood-esque. But yeah, no, there's no way. Not a chance in house. You you you really think I'm like some type of like a holier than thou, stick in the mud, like by the book and morally superior.

SPEAKER_00: 13:06

That's what the paladins are.

SPEAKER_03: 13:09

Well, I mean, but they they can. I always thought a paladin was more like, you know, they were tank-ish. They could take a lot of damage, they could give out a lot of damage, but they also, you know, could heal and heal others, you know, and protect others. That's why I think of you as more of a paladin.

SPEAKER_01: 13:37

Okay, so okay, if we're going ability-wise, yeah, sounds like I'm going kind of like their alignment and how they actual, like the the um whatever, like whatever their like beliefs in their, like I said, their beliefs, their morals, their alignments are. Paladins are always like, um, whatcha call it? Um fuck, why can't I think of it right now? They're the top left corner. They're the goody-goody two shoes. Why can't I think of what's in the alignment chart right now? True good? Good true, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's good, neutral, chaotic. And then there's whatever the fuck's on top of the out now. Like, I'm like top right corner, flirt with the middle right side there. Dance online. Depends on my deck.

SPEAKER_03: 14:23

Chaotic good.

SPEAKER_01: 14:24

Chaotic good. There we go. Yeah, it's chaotic good. Yeah. Yeah, no. I always love that every now and then, just like doing like this, these funny like alignment charts and whatever.

SPEAKER_03: 14:40

But I don't know that I could I could get into it at the same time.

SPEAKER_01: 14:46

You absolutely could if you find the right. I think you would pro I genuinely feel you would get more out of doing the actual physical one, because there's an insane amount of online ones. You can just find online ones and you all just like it's like a Zoom call, but you're just like playing DD and whatever you make creature character and you're a line chart. What it is, it's it's storytelling. 99%. Have you ever seen the video of um John Bernthal and what the hell is your name and place carry? Yeah, okay, you've seen that one? That is exactly what DD is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 15:15

Like that is I am aware of what the game is and all that, but I don't know. I just um I think I think it would be like having to have the storytelling and the imagination to be like in the moment, just come up with all of this stuff. Because for me, it you know, if I'm if I'm coming up with something or I'm writing s you know, something, or it it takes me a while to like figure it all out in my head. I feel like it it seems like a game, it's you have to be very quick, you know, in in the way that it goes. It's it's a like a quick thinking, quick, quick storytelling. You have to really be on your toes.

SPEAKER_01: 16:05

Not not really. It can it could it could literally go both ways. I mean, another one of just like the go-to jokes about it is that like one campaign or like one story that you and your group does takes you decades. Oh wow. So it all kind of just depends on it it for the the first time, your very first time, a lot of people will say, play how how you would. Because that's what you're gonna think the fastest. Like, what would you do in this specific situation? So base your character off of you, how you feel, all this other kind of fun stuff. If if you really are just like some, if you're like what would be like a typical barbarian, it's just what's a better way to get through life? A bigger hammer. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00: 16:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 16:52

Like, don't try to be like, oh, I'm gonna do the sneaky kind of way. No. Your very first playthrough, what would you do? Fucking swing. Swing first. If that's what you do in life, do that. That that way you can kind of dip your toes in, see how it goes, the action and the reaction. Learn a bit more about the character, see which one you really kind of align with the most, and then just that's your baseline because it's gonna be the easiest way for you to get through it all. And then inevitably, about halfway through, when you realize kind of how it's going in the pacing of it, um, the unspoken rule about what you're supposed to do is that it's the it's almost like uh blackjack. Uh it's the party, you know, it's it's the uh, you know, it's it's all the players against the house. It's the party against the DM. And you're just trying to undermine and fuck with the DM as much as humanly possible. Because like there's been a couple of people where it's like a lot of what it is you have, you know, depending on what your DM is going to be, they have to specify out like the rules, the yes, the no's, the do's and don'ts, and so on and so forth before. At least like one of the very first ones that I did, they did this. And they're really big on semantics. So like if it's not specified, it is no hold bar. Like so, like if you have an artificer with you, um, and they're like, Oh, you've you you know, oh, a dragon has now landed and is preparing to fight you all. What do you do? And it's the artificer. The artificer just goes like, I would call Batman because I made a cell phone to call Batman. They're like, What? Well, you said I you didn't say I couldn't, and you didn't say like we're limited to technology. Ah shit. So yeah, so you know, now you have a cell phone that can just immediately call Batman and you can like so that's just like one way to just like really but then at the same time though, if you get a really psychotic DM, like if you get like a dungeon master for a dungeon master, yeah, you are like so fucked because they can come up with like very specific rules and NPCs that they only act like this, they only do that, they whatever the hell. Everything is, you know. I there's every now and then I'll come across some of these pages that's really funny, where it's this one guy where it's uh there's a guard, there's these guards outside of the castle, and one of them says, Halt! One of us tells only lies, and one of us only tells the truths. And before the wizard can ask a question, the barbarian takes one and just rips his head off, and he just looks at him and goes, Is he dead? And he just says, No, and he said, This one liar. So, like right. That's literally how it plays out. That's how it just goes, and it's the funniest shit. And if you're the wizard, you have to immediately cast fireball.

SPEAKER_03: 19:34

Interesting. I guess I've been thinking um a lot about this because I'm I'm oh I'm knee deep. I would say I'm now waist deep in this book series, Dungeon Crawler Carl.

SPEAKER_01: 19:50

You're balls deep in it.

SPEAKER_03: 19:52

So I yeah, yeah. I'm I'm at the end of the fifth book, and um it's it it it It's very much it is I mean the guy who wrote this had to have he has to be some kind of like dungeon master, you know, where he's played these games his entire life because it's so I feel like I'm learning more about like Dungeons and Dragons reading this book because everything is you know, you've got stats, you've got inventory, you've got, you know, plus two to charisma, or you know, this stat and the you know, there's like tons of different stats and and NPCs, and um it's it's a very, very detailed world. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And for those who are not familiar with this book, uh just a basic synopsis is like the it's the apocalypse, the it's the end of the world. Um aliens are basically taking all of the earth's resources, and all of humanity, well, the vast majority of humanity, the ones that survive, are forced into the this dungeon. And basically there's all these levels, and they are forced to play an RPG game. And as you get to different levels, you're you know, you can become certain, you can pick like um, you can you can stay human, you can pick another galactic race, you can do all these things, you get magical gear, you get armor, you get all of this stuff, and it's it's and basically, you know, uh the the whole of the universe is watching this um role-playing game. Like it's it's part of their like TV viewing experience. It's a Truman show from hell, yeah, yeah, yeah. It really is. But like um, like the cast of characters are so great. The voice actor is so great. He does all these all the all the voices, and I'm telling you, like the voices are so different. But there's um he gets thrown in with his ex-girlfriend's cat, whose name is Princess Donut. Princess Donut, Queen Anne Chonk. Let me get that straight. And um she she basically gets the ability to um speak, and so she goes into the game as like a pet or a familiar, but because she is an impetuous cat and and does something, um she becomes a player in the game.

SPEAKER_01: 22:59

You don't need to play him, hate the game.

SPEAKER_03: 23:01

Yeah, and and like eventually they meet up with there's a um a sex doll head whose name's Samantha. She's a player in the game. It is so.

SPEAKER_01: 23:15

Is that the Samantha Olaf was looking for?

SPEAKER_03: 23:20

I don't know, maybe. But it's just it's so like it's so ridiculous. Uh Princess Donut gets uh earns a pet, um, and it's a pet Velociraptor. She's named Mongo. Um and so Mongo is able to fight with her, and she shoots little lasers. It's it's just a great book, but it's very, very, it's very, very like, you know, um done D coded. Very, very much.

SPEAKER_01: 23:57

Oh, billion percent. Literally, like the way you described it is like it just in the beginning. In the beginning. It's a million percent. Like, it's all just DD. And like World of Warcraft, you'd probably you'd pick it up a lot better than you you think you would.

SPEAKER_03: 24:13

Yeah. And like the um this AI that control it's controlling most of the universe um is the dungeon master. So the AI is basically writing the story as they go along, and um there's a lot of things with the NPCs, and they're finding out you can wake up NPCs to make them realize that they're NPCs. Yeah, it's it's really I I highly recommend it. I highly recommend the audiobooks to anyone that's listening. Um, I wish there was a way that I could share the audiobooks with you, Kyle, because I think you'd be you'd be so into audiobooks, sign me the hell up.

SPEAKER_01: 25:00

I don't gotta do the reading because I can't. Um sign me up.

SPEAKER_03: 25:03

But yeah, no, it's just the audiobook. I it's it's and I think I mean I know you can buy like the hard copy of the books, but I think most of everyone that I've talked to that has that have quote unquote read these books have read them through the audiobook like experience because it's so good. Um, and I think there's like there's some production company that has also taken the books and they've done like a complete audio, almost like an audio like show. Like they they have like sound effects, and they've taken all the characters and and there's multiple, multiple voice actors for all the different characters, not like in the audiobook, it's just the one guy doing all the voices.

SPEAKER_00: 25:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 26:00

Um, but they've taken it and they've done a complete production. Um and Seth McFarland's production company has bought the rights to the book, and they're in the beginning stages of um develop developing it into a screenplay for a show. That's so good. It's so good though. Hell yeah. But the more I read it, the more I'm I I've more that I've gotten into this book, the more I've been like, one of these days I really want to play DD.

SPEAKER_01: 26:35

You just gotta find the right, you just like you just gotta find the right people, the right party, all that kind of fun stuff.

SPEAKER_03: 26:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 26:42

It's been quite quite some time since I have to partake. And it'll be longer still. I do rec another really honestly, if you haven't seen it, I can't recommend the movie enough. I think the movie was exactly what it needed to be. I think the problem with the the Warcraft movie was that it took itself too serious.

SPEAKER_03: 27:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01: 27:04

And that they went very hard with one, you know, there's not a uh there isn't like a serious linear story to World of Warcraft. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 27:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 27:17

There's a billion trillion ways that game can go.

SPEAKER_03: 27:21

Except for Leroy Jenkins! Leroy Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 27:25

Uh so there so that was that movie took itself too seriously. I'm not saying make it a comedy, but th they they should have did more open stuff to it, or they should have made it a little more of a comedy. As to where D D, they they went off of the comedy aspect, not necessarily like what Dungeons Dragons is supposed to be. It went off of what it is. Yeah, this is what's supposed to happen. This is the actual story to DD and so on and so forth. But what does everyone do? It's just kind of chaotic and just kind of tomfoolery. So it's it's it's fun. They didn't go so hard. They had just enough, you know, little uh Easter eggs for for the diehards to know this and know that, but it's the it is the absolute perfect stepping stone to bring so many more people into the fandom, into DD and so on and so forth. Yeah, of course, you're gonna have your hard nosers that think it was an absolute shit show, but fuck them. Um if you haven't seen the movie, I I think that's a a really good What movie is it? DD. Dungeons and Dragons.

SPEAKER_03: 28:32

I don't know that I've ever seen that movie.

SPEAKER_01: 28:35

Oh, it's it's yes. It's uh like I said, it was it was it was good. It was good. It was like I said, it's a beautiful little stepping stone, a nice little you know, it's just the tip. Just the tip, just the tip to get you into the full phantom uh of it. And I just Yeah, no, it was it was it was I I I definitely recommend it. It was fun. Just like the Minecraft movie. If you haven't seen the Mine, if people haven't seen the Minecraft movie, it is just good enough to give die it it's just meta enough to give to shut the diehards up. But at the same time, if you know absolute jack shit about Minecraft, you'll enjoy it just the same.

SPEAKER_03: 29:17

Yeah, I can't, I still can't pull my bring myself to I I don't know what it is. I just I can't bring myself to watch that movie.

SPEAKER_01: 29:26

It's just it's a silly funny movie. You won't regret it. Is it good? It's just fun.

SPEAKER_03: 29:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 29:33

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 29:34

It's maybe on one of these nights where I can't sleep, I'll turn it on.

SPEAKER_01: 29:38

Yeah, for sure. I can I can see that. Blah blah blah. Yeah. I would die. No, no, you go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 29:48

No, I had a question for you. We were gonna come completely go into another realm, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_01: 29:54

Okay, so all right. I was just I was just kind of laughing to myself because with you know, just still on the DD thing. If you haven't seen this stuff, it's on Amazon. They have that, they have this show called Secret Level, where it's like 10 or 12 episodes, and it's like lore or backstory or whatever the hell is for from each episode is a different game of sorts.

SPEAKER_03: 30:18

Oh.

SPEAKER_01: 30:19

And the first episode is a DD one. It's like uh they're only like they're like shorts, they're like 10 or 15-minute long episodes. Um the one they did for uh the very first episode is the one they did for DD, which kind of tells the origin story of like the end all be all big monster to it. Um they have like a cyberpunk one that's kind of cool or whatever. Then they have one that's like they have some move, I don't remember the hell um Unreal Tournament, I think that's what it's called. Is what it I don't know, but that episode is fucking cool with like robots in an arena and a rebellion and shit. That one was hardcore. But my fucking favorite one. The fourth episode they did was more hammer 40k. And I cannot begin to explain how fucking awesome that one was. And they timed it beautifully. That episode aired, and then the day after Space Marine 2 came out, and that is the very first dipping of the toes showing us what is to come with Henry Cavill's Warhammer project that he's working on. Because to my knowledge, he was very involved in the development of that one episode specifically, and so if you saw that, that is what his ideas and plans for that show are, which is the only way you can do that because you can't make something like the DD movie for Warhammer because it is in fucking possible. Oh, I know. It's impossible to try to explain 40k.

SPEAKER_03: 31:45

He is so into Warhammer.

SPEAKER_01: 31:47

He really is, but even he can't there's no one, it is impossible to put into parameters how obnoxious and how massive and how in depth Warhammer is. It is impossible. American history is not as deep as Warhammer is, and you could have a fucking doctorate in American history, you could have a doctorate in any type of history, and it is not as in depth or as intricate as Warhammer. You may go.

SPEAKER_03: 32:19

Okay. Well, kind of in speaking in history, so it's kind of like a history question that I have for you. Yes, please, yes, yes, and so I I know that you know you've you've had um you had a live, what, two days ago, and you you were um doing some of your leathercraft, and I asked this question, but I know you were busy. But I still want to know the answer to this question.

SPEAKER_01: 32:47

Oh, I'm afraid.

SPEAKER_03: 32:49

So, and and I don't know, maybe I think maybe the way that I was asking the question, it it TikTok could have like, you know, zipped it out of there. So you may not have even seen the question, but you were you you have that like really, really in stupidly thick leather, right?

SPEAKER_01: 33:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_03: 33:09

That you've been working with.

SPEAKER_01: 33:11

Thanks, I work out.

SPEAKER_03: 33:13

So my question was as as I was looking at that, is okay, uh what what would you say? That's what like uh it's not a half an inch thick.

SPEAKER_01: 33:26

It's like it's about a quarter of an inch thick.

SPEAKER_03: 33:28

Quarter of an inch thick.

unknown: 33:30

Yep.

SPEAKER_03: 33:30

And that's that's thick leather.

SPEAKER_01: 33:32

That's f that is real fucking thick. Anyone listening to right now, if you got a ruler or a micro pene, look at that. That's a quarter of an inch. For leather, that's fucking thick.

SPEAKER_03: 33:42

So would that be the type of leather that they would use um in like ancient armor?

SPEAKER_01: 33:51

Mm-hmm. 100%. Okay. They might even use some a little bit um thinner than that. A little bit thinner. Yeah, there could be some that they can use thinner. Technically, if you treat it right and you do the right stuff and you have the right leathermen or the leather smiths and so on and so forth working it, you can take something lighter, like a uh like a seven-ounce. So the ounce, so uh leather is um leather is gauged not necessarily by um its thickness, but by its weight. Uh and so rule of thumb is I want to say it's by square inch, how much a square inch um, or uh however much a specific size. I forgot the top of my head right now, uh, how much it weighs. So one ounce, two ounce, three ounce, blah, blah, blah. Give or take. It's usually within a couple of ounces. Because like I said, um genuine leather isn't consistently perfectly the exact thickness all the way through because it's it's skin, it's flesh. So there's going to be different, very minor inconsistencies throughout it if it's proper. So even a um seven or an eight ounce leather, you can get to um like armor toughness and thickness, because what's called um uh casing. I believe it's yeah, like casing and like treating leather. So you'll like you'll wet it, like completely soak it like to the bone. Like you've you've put it in a container of water until bubbles stop bubbling. So it's completely saturated, and then you take that out and you let it dry, or you heat it up and then it dries and it hardens like that. And you do that like two or three times, and that really hard solidifies it and hardens it.

SPEAKER_03: 35:26

Um because I was thinking, like it with I was thinking, you know, if you had I don't know, like you you were just working on, I don't know what it was, like a I don't know, a belt or something or whatever. Um that would I would think that would be so heavy to wear as a suit of armor. And I was just thinking like back then, I mean, they would they would from their from their feet to their head be be encased in like this leather armor. And I was just thinking like how thick that was and how like how heavy and cumbersome and probably sweaty. It would be exhausting having to wear and fight in that type of armor.

SPEAKER_01: 36:13

All depending on it wouldn't be as bad as one would think. One because I mean look at some of the knights of the Templars and Sonics. They're in chain mail and fucking full plate armor. That's you want to talk about heavy and hot and all that kind of fun shit. Chain mail, Jesus Christ. Um, leather armor isn't exactly the most, though it's itself, if it's done right, um, it does have a lot of flow, a lot of give. It is very supple and supposed to be moving into it. Even that that really hardened stuff is still lighter than metal, obviously. But it wouldn't be a full like plate, or you wouldn't make like a full thing. Like so it'll be pieces to just kind of put the um I think what it is kind of think of like so it wouldn't look like stormtrooper armor. You know, it's just like the different pieces of plastic that are just there and they don't really like move. Yeah. That's like some of the like worst armor you'll ever see. Uh the plate armor has a lot of it because of the way it's layered and scaled. So it moves with it at accordions and so on and so forth. So with a leather armor like that, if it was that thick, you would just have it at like the important part to the important bits, if you will. Try to think of some of the like uh the different Batman armors, right? How there's like those big protruding parts at like his pecs and like towards like the abdomen area, yeah, to kind of simulate like muscles and look cool. But it would make more sense to have a leather like that very heavy in those areas, kind of like a uh more like a chest uh chest plate or like a breastplate.

SPEAKER_03: 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 37:36

Um, because that's gonna cover, you know, the the important internal organs, and then you're gonna have like some type of a thing covering your guts because yeah, maybe you need to move a little bit more, but it's you're not gonna have a very stiff piece of armor like that. You'll cover your shoulders and like your back and your head, but it wouldn't be fully cladded like that. I really do want to I do want to make like armor with that. I I kind of do. I'm I'm telling myself not to do it, but I want to make like I really do, because it would be really difficult and really hard to do it because I'd have to that shit is so stiff, man. That shit is stiff.

SPEAKER_03: 38:14

Oh yeah. I mean, it it just and you know, and I and I've seen you work with, you know, like the regular leather and stuff, but and and don't take this, but it just looked very, very like cumbersome to have to deal with to Oh absolutely and to do all the stuff that you were doing. Like and I just it it the whole time I was watching you work on that, I was thinking about like I mean, I'm sure that you know, way back in the ancient, I mean they they didn't have the tools that we do now, or maybe they did, but it was out of some other, you know, bone or or something like that. But just like how how difficult it would be to take leather like that and and make a make a suit of armor or plates or whatever they need to do with, like just how how difficult of a task for those craftsmen it was to do that for an entire army, for hundreds of thousands of warriors to to make all of that. That just seems so daunting.

SPEAKER_01: 39:28

Yeah, it sounds pretty goddamn horrible. But I said there's a hundred different, you know, there's a hundred thousand different ways that they did it or would have done it if you were to be outfitting an entire army for that. Uh, like I say, if you were using something that thick, it wouldn't be like how I have my giant roll of uh leather. You would just work with the smaller pieces, which is it's still really tough. Like you really gotta work it and you have to, but um it would be at the specific stages before it gets that thick and that sticky. I think because like as if your general idea is to make armor or make clothing, make something specific out of it, you would kind of have that mindset as you're working through it. So as they're tanning the leather, they're gonna tan it and cure it in smaller pieces. That's so where it is easier to and more manageable, much more pliable before it stiffens like that, or even before they thicken it like that. The type of animal that they use, um, it would um I said they they would take that into consideration for sure with the different hides and how it's worked and moved and so on. But oh no, but you're a hundred percent right. I can't think of a worse hell than try to make so that's why I'm so hesitant to do it because like dude. I'm just doing what's like simple to make, which is just belts, which is just ripping a strip of it and then dropping a couple holes into it. Fuck me, dude. Jesus. I was breaking a sweat, just laying the thing out, rolling it out, and using a giant razor to fucking cut a strip. It's like the easiest thing I do. And it was I was literally, literally sweating doing that with that fucking thing. I love it.

SPEAKER_03: 41:13

Yeah, yeah. You know, I was just thinking about like how they would have to deal with that in the ancient times. It's just it it and it's interesting to kind of like see somebody now work on a craft that you know is can take you that far back into history. You know, it's kind of it's a it's a really it's a cool thing, but I wouldn't want to do it, but it's a cool, it's a cool thing.

SPEAKER_01: 41:40

More power to you. You go ahead and do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna just it that's like me with people who read. It's like, you know what? More power to you. I can't fucking do that. Read all you want. I cannot, will not, in a box with a fox in the air with the near not happening.

SPEAKER_03: 41:55

Yeah. No, I enjoy audio. That's why I enjoy audiobooks much more.

SPEAKER_01: 42:01

Even that, like, I need like even podcasts for me were difficult unless there was like a video to watch, because something to hold my attention.

SPEAKER_03: 42:13

Attention to.

SPEAKER_01: 42:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 42:16

Yeah, yeah, I know. It's um do you think we'll ever get to man. I tell you what, I here's the here's the thing. I could see us eventually going to a video version of this, but only when I can afford to have somebody else edit it. There's no there's no way. I as much as I enjoy I enjoy doing the podcast. And editing typically isn't that bad, but it's still like the thing, it's it's the necessary evil that you have to do, but I man, I hate it.

SPEAKER_01: 43:01

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 43:02

I hate it. If I get if I could get somebody else to edit it and and deal with all the technical, like the the technical issues of rec you know, recording with video. No. We'll get there. We'll get there eventually. But I'm not gonna do it. Eventually. I'm not gonna be doing it. Hey, if there's anybody out there that just would like to, you know, edit to learn and you know, or for charity, then let us know. And maybe we'll pay you.

SPEAKER_01: 43:38

We'll pay, we'll pay you in friendship and anxiety.

SPEAKER_03: 43:41

Yeah, and and memes. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 43:44

How do?

SPEAKER_03: 43:45

How do? How do you do that?

SPEAKER_01: 43:48

How do you edit it and make it how do?

SPEAKER_03: 43:52

Yeah, and how do you edit the audio and make the video seem like continuous? You know what I mean? Like have some continuity there. I I will not do it.

SPEAKER_01: 44:03

No, not in a box, not with a fox, not in a chair, not over there.

SPEAKER_03: 44:08

No, not at all, not at all. But hey, by the time this um maybe airs, we'll be almost in 2026. You think you're gonna have a good 2026?

SPEAKER_01: 44:22

Listen, it can't be fucking worse than 2025, so.

SPEAKER_03: 44:27

Yeah, we're just gonna kind of forget a lot about 2025.

SPEAKER_01: 44:31

I just listen, I gotta be we we slightly talked about this. I don't want it to come out the wrong way, don't get me wrong. Um, I had some absolutely fantastic moments in 2025. I had some really good moments in 2025, but there's also a lot of stuff that can get so fucked it's not even funny.

SPEAKER_03: 44:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 44:49

That happened. This year definitely started on quite a fucking note for me.

SPEAKER_03: 44:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're we're going to just kind of put all that to bed, and we're gonna move forward and have a much, much better 2026.

SPEAKER_01: 45:08

To quote Will Smith, keep my wife's name. I'm just kidding, wrong quote. Um, you know what we got here? We got this box, and we're gonna put a bunch of shit in there. We're gonna put like the word flaccet and my mama's titties. Like, we're gonna put the beginning of this year, and we're gonna put some bad stuff in this year. We're gonna put me hit in my head, and we're gonna put some illnesses and some doctor visits, we're gonna put all that and the beginning of the podcast and all the other fun stuff and how all that went fucking bimbos. Uh, we're gonna put all that in this box and we're gonna chuck this motherfucker in the ocean.

SPEAKER_03: 45:43

Yeah. Yes, in the deepest part of the ocean.

SPEAKER_01: 45:47

Yes. Dishonor on it, dishonor on its cow. Like I said, no, it was not. I I God, that sounds really cliche. I want to at least come across as more grateful. I really do. I have I have these, I have these problems where like I feel like I have the worst goddamn life in the world when I know I don't. Like I can probably name three people who have worse lives than me, legitimately.

SPEAKER_03: 46:14

Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing though about that. Just because somebody else may have it worse doesn't doesn't cancel out the fact that you are going through something, you know, that's bad or terrible and you feel, you know, this way. That's I I really kind of like a pet peeve is like when you're going through some something, you're going through hard times or you know, emotional turmoil or whatever, and somebody says, Well, you know, this person has it worse. At least, you know, well, look at the look over here. They, you know, they have it worse. Okay. And I'm sorry that they are, but that doesn't mean that what I'm going through isn't horrible for me, you know?

SPEAKER_01: 47:04

So, you know, I know I have those. I like I said, I just I know there's moments where I know I was, you know, I was like, yeah, the beginning of the year for me was fucking horrible.

SPEAKER_03: 47:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 47:16

But I just want to look back and just I don't, you know, like when bad shit happens, I want to look back and just be more grateful about because I saw and I saw this video with like Stephen Colbert the other day. Like, you've got to be grateful for a whole life because it's such a gift to be alive. And because like the the chances of you being I forgot what the other quote was, this other thing is like the chances of you being born is like one and insane.

SPEAKER_03: 47:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 47:40

It's so it's like, so you can't just pick and choose what you're grateful for because even bad moments and bad times, uh, they have the opportunity to open your eyes of something else that you are grateful for that you do have or you don't have. And if anything, the bare minimum is something that you've learned along the way. And it's very cliche and it's very Oscar baity kind of bullshit. But I want to genuinely like really keep that like with me.

SPEAKER_03: 48:10

Yeah. And I think that I think that's a good goal to have is you know, to live in gratitude. You know, and here's the thing like life is life, and you're gonna have you know ups and downs and all of that. But I think I think that's it's a lesson for everyone, really. Not just you, not just me, but uh a lot of people. If we would all learn to live with a little bit more gratitude, it's not gonna say you're never gonna have a bad time, but it can put things into better perspective. Yeah. It takes a village to raise a kile.

SPEAKER_01: 48:57

A village? It takes a fucking continent. Good God.

SPEAKER_03: 49:03

Hey, and you know, now we're worldwide. It takes a it takes a planet to raise it.

SPEAKER_01: 49:08

Whoa, whoa, troppers. I love that song.

SPEAKER_03: 49:13

Does it ever blow your mind though that and I I mean, I know I look at the stats and the the data more than you, but it always blows my mind like when I see like we've got a new location somewhere literally on the other side of the globe. And it blows my mind that like somebody in, you know, like India or somebody in Norway or you know, wherever has listened to us. And it's somebody that I probably will never meet. We'll never will never meet this person, but they have they have listened to our voices and they've heard you know us laugh about stupid stuff. It just blows my mind that that that happens with this podcast. Do you ever think about that or is it just me?

SPEAKER_01: 50:14

Honestly, it's just me. Honestly, sometimes. Genuinely. Sometimes, because I know um or s or similar. Similar, I should say. Um because it's just it's it's it's nuts to me. Because like, you know, I'll do lives and you know, I'll do lives and people are like, you know, hola from Argentina, or hello from this place, hello from that place. Like the internet is like the worst, most amazing thing, like ever.

SPEAKER_02: 50:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 50:49

And it's um it just goes to show that some you know, people people always talking about this is different, that's changed, that's changed, that's different, that's this is this is why everyone is so different, but at the same time, everyone's like still the same. Like so that there's some shit that, you know, around the world, there's some type of a commonality that we would have never we would have never um known or had. We can be massively different. I'm I'm loosely quoting Young Blood on this one time, because I saw this clip one time. Um he took like a question or something from the audience, whatever the fuck it was. But it's like there's some connection that's made between us and those people, like uh India, Norway, whatever it may be, and so on and so forth. Th some we can be so insanely different, but there's at least one thing that we have in common. It was one thing we talked about on one of our episodes. Maybe it was the music episode, maybe it was the Lord of the Rings episode. Who the hell knows? But there's at least one thing that has brought us and that one person together. Um, some type of a commonality. Uh but i if anything that it it kind of maybe not that exactly I think about a lot, but every now and then I'll think about it is um I had a bunch of friends, I had a very close friend in the um in uh in the military. And a lot of the ways that he would, you know, that they would pass the time, you know, like on bass or wherever they are, or whatever they're doing, and so on and so forth, they're logging in and they're watching live events, they're streaming this, they're streaming that. So it's like what, you know, he would say one of the things that he would do is that he would tune into a um you know, certain shows and whatnot, certain live shows, whatever it was, um, because uh him and his significant other would watch it all the time. And so he's half he's literally half the world away, Lord only knows where. And you know, she was back home. And the fact that both of them would like watch the prices right, she wouldn't know the type of day that he had, the type of moment that he had, what he just rolled off of. But when he had the ability to like sit down and watch like the favorite show that they would have, as it's happening live recording, he knows she's watching it. It kind of brings them to it's in his mind, it was them being together, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02: 53:13

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 53:14

So maybe maybe even if it's something like that one, right? We get it, you know, one of those it it makes me think of something kind of like that. Maybe we did get a hit in some country that's you know, something is happening right now. What if that's what it is? What if like someone who had the most like unspeakable day or something just unspeakable is going on in their lives right now, and they just needed a laugh, and for whatever reason, something like this came across their day, their algorithm, whatever the fuck it is. Yeah. And their day got just a little bit better. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 53:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 53:51

I can't think about that too much because then I harp on it and I spiral out of that one.

SPEAKER_03: 53:55

Yeah. It it gets it it it it pulls at the heartstrings a little bit that, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 54:00

A little bit.

SPEAKER_03: 54:01

Yeah, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 54:02

But it's just Or it even could have been something like a misclick, like they wanted to listen to Joe Rogan, but they fucking clicked on us for whatever reason. Like, who the who the hell knows? Like we it we're we're thinking about this what-ifs of but of it being like this most this most like in-depth and emotional situation, but when really someone just fat-fingered the you know, Taylor Swift's album and whatever the fuck. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03: 54:22

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 54:23

Yeah, like, ah shit. And they didn't even listen to us, they just ah shit. Like the click counted, you know what I mean? Yeah, be completely wrong. Who knows?

SPEAKER_03: 54:30

Well, uh, well, they I I know that they have to listen to a certain certain amount of time for it to count. Um, but even at that, even at that, even just the the bare minimum, you know, like it just blows my mind that somebody that I will never meet, I will never have an opportunity to meet, I don't know who they are, has clicked us for whatever reason and listened to us for however long that they listen to us, whether you know it was five minutes or an entire episode, and uh heard what we have to say and what we laugh about and what we get stupid about. And, you know, hopefully they enjoyed it. Hopefully, you know, it it brightened their day or gave them something to think about. It just it's just wild to think about that. I it just it just blows my mind.

SPEAKER_01: 55:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 55:25

It just blows my mind.

SPEAKER_01: 55:26

Yeah, I'll accept the like I said, something is just so different. And that's how you know there's a genuine connection between these people because like this is non-video, so they don't know what we look like. I need you to be completely honest. How many pages on social media do you like follow or whatever? You don't give a rip what it's about, but it's like a hot person. You know what I mean? Yeah, you don't give any kind of a shit, but like you know, what I don't know, chess. Let's say you don't, let's just say you don't give a flying fuck about chess. But someone who looks like if Henry Cavill and Chris Hems were like had a baby, but like they're like a chess champion. They're like, all right, I'm gonna follow this fucking chess page because like this dude's hot. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah so like I mean there's a genuine connection because they don't know what we look like.

SPEAKER_03: 56:14

Well, I mean, our pictures are on our shut up.

SPEAKER_01: 56:19

Let me have this.

unknown: 56:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 56:21

I was gonna say they they have an idea. Let me have this. Okay. Say goodnight, Kyle. I'll let you have this.

SPEAKER_00: 56:33

Harry Potter could be a fucking Christmas movie for you.

SPEAKER_01: 56:38

Radio people across the world have genuine connections because they don't know what we look like.

SPEAKER_03: 56:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 56:44

That's what we call a callback, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_03: 56:47

Even though we both are alright.

SPEAKER_00: 56:50

Speak for yourself. I'm ugly as fuck.

SPEAKER_03: 56:56

We have faces for radio. That's why we do this.

SPEAKER_00: 56:59

Exactly. Why do you think it's this?

SPEAKER_03: 57:03

Oh, all right. Well, uh, you want to wrap this up? That's my mama. Well, thank you for listening to us ramble about God, we went all over the place.

SPEAKER_01: 57:19

What did honestly, what the fuck did we even talk about?

SPEAKER_03: 57:22

Yeah, we talked about DD and uh connections to us to our faceless voices. There you go.

SPEAKER_01: 57:29

Yeah, but we also like talked about a lot of other shit, too.

unknown: 57:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 57:34

Oh my god. I need more listen, I either need new meds or more meds. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 57:39

Yeah. Well, hey, you know, when you listen to this episode and give us a download, you'll be surprised. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 57:48

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_03: 57:49

See how that works. Well, as always, thank you for listening. And if you're listening to us from the other side of the globe, thank you so much. We we are always amazed and appreciative of every single listen, download, save, like, um, follow that you give us. Um, this is a wild adventure, and we're just extremely grateful for each and every one of you. So until next time.

SPEAKER_01: 58:22

Except you. Except you. Yeah, yeah, you right there. No, not you. No, the guy next to you. Yeah. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_03: 58:29

Except for the one. Except for that one person, yeah. Do you wait? Side question. Do you think anyone hate listens to us?

SPEAKER_01: 58:37

Oh, absolutely. I think there's at least two.

SPEAKER_03: 58:40

Yeah, probably more. I probably we probably have some in common, and then you have some, and then I have some.

SPEAKER_01: 58:47

So I probably remember what we said a little bit earlier, or it's just like, hey, get in line. Yeah, get in fucking line. There's probably some hate listeners, but like listen, honestly.

SPEAKER_03: 58:59

We'll take it. A listen is a listen. So hate hate hate us all you want, hate listen to us all you want, because we're not fucking going anywhere.

SPEAKER_01: 59:08

Except me, I gotta go to fucking therapy.

SPEAKER_03: 59:11

Yeah, go. Okay, you want to be able to do that.