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S1E8: Fathers & Family Stories

The Silly Goose Society Season 1 Episode 8

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A powder keg of family stories, big laughs, and bigger questions lights up as our dads join the mic. We kick off with coal country grit and telecom tales from the early internet, then swerve into pure chaos: a dirty turkey baster, a grandpa with iron hands, and a bird launched into the yard like a myth in the making. From there, it’s prank warfare—X‑Lax brownies for serial lunch thieves—and a tour of shop-floor humor where “boats” and “bolts” become the kind of joke you repeat for years.

The temperature changes when we test the edges of belief. Do you trust the moon landing or the myth? We weigh Kubrick rumors, starless photos, and lost transmissions against Cold War incentives, Soviet scrutiny, and the immensity of the Apollo workforce. Photography basics, historical context, and firsthand memories go head to head with suspicion and the thrill of a good story. Then we push further: aliens, secrecy, and whether movies quietly prep us for the unimaginable. It’s a ride through skepticism, science, and the psychology of why some narratives won’t let go.

Nostalgia wraps it in warmth. One TV. Streetlights as curfew. Scouts with spine. The kind of childhood where you learned from tough mentors, got roasted with love, and came home with a story. We close with honest thanks—parents who did their best, kids who turned out alright, and the rare gift of laughing together about all of it. Hit play for a mix of moon myths, family lore, and the soft landing only a joke can provide.

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Welcome And Meet The Dads

SPEAKER_00

Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised. Hey everybody, welcome to the Silly Goose Society podcast. We've finally done it. This is the episode that we've been planning for six months. The people that are responsible for bringing us into the world are here.

SPEAKER_04

Well, it's kind of responsible.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of responsible. Well, half responsible. Yeah, it's the dad episode. Yahoo!

SPEAKER_04

So I figured how we'll get this shin dig started or light this powder keg or screw the pooch, whichever mannerism we want to use. Um I'm thinking of a number between one and six. Ed, take a guess. All right, three. Oh shit, you got it on the nose. Okay, you get to introduce yourself first, and then dad, you introduce yourself, and then we'll just hit the ground runway. It's between one and six.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, but there's also two and there's four and there's five.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. That was the same number I was for the second.

SPEAKER_01

That's right between.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, geez, man. Nothing gets by you. Sharp as a butter knife over here.

SPEAKER_00

All right, Ed. Introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01

Um my name's Ed Schaefer. Uh uh, I've raised this young lady over here, and uh uh I don't know why I don't know how far you want me to go. How far back in history? Far enough. I worked in the coal entry uh industry my whole life, and uh I'm still doing it, still doing training for coal miners. So that's about it. I mean, I don't know what to do.

SPEAKER_04

That's the most like respectfully, that's the most like West Virginia like dad job I can think of. Oh yeah, yeah. Just working in the coal mines.

SPEAKER_03

That that's like yeah, that's that's West Virginia's. I couldn't think harder if I tried. You gotta have respect for a person like that because that's a dangerous job. I'm a dangerous job. I've worked in it for years.

Near Misses In Coal Country

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think it was dangerous, that's true. He was he was almost crushed by what 20 tons of equipment?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Broke his back. Yeah, it it was he almost died a couple times. Well, yeah, made sense. He had that roof fall that you barely made it out.

SPEAKER_01

The first when the shield fell on me, when the 20 tons fell on me. It I felt that a little bit. Once in a normal roof, it'd probably killed him. I just shoved it off of me a little bit there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Such a dad thing. You almost died.

SPEAKER_04

It was Tuesday. What do you expect, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Actually, it was on a Wednesday, but but who's counting, right? It was it was midweek, kind of like between one and six.

SPEAKER_04

I'm regretting this instantly. All the regrets. Well, okay.

Teleco Days And The Early Web

SPEAKER_03

Dad, your turn. That's my turn. Yeah, your turn. Get comfortable. My name is Ray Powers, and yeah, I unfortunately, but Kyle here is my son, and uh I spent 25 years uh in the telecommunications industry, and you know, which is sad because I haven't got a clue as to what we're doing right now. With all this computer stuff here, I'm looking at how to pay my bills. It's like it's like a it's like a shop.

SPEAKER_04

It's like a complicated phone call, if you think about it. Yeah. It's like a very complicated phone call. That's all.

SPEAKER_03

But um but I was actually in the early 90s, um I was in on the ground floor of this amazing thing we have today called uh the internet and the world wide web. So um so over the years, it's uh it's been uh just like wow, look at the way this thing is just tur turned, take it right off. Take it right off. It was gonna change the world and connect it. Oh, it's it's changed the world alright.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, it has to be. I can find either cute dog pictures or funny cat videos or boobs right on my phone. Yeah, moments know.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, what's better than that? What is better than that? Pretty much.

SPEAKER_00

Henry Cavill's pecs.

SPEAKER_03

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_00

All right, you win.

SPEAKER_04

Just give up. Just give up.

SPEAKER_03

I quit.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. All right, wait, what story was I supposed to start with?

SPEAKER_00

Um, you were supposed to tell us the story about when you made us um completely lose our shit because of what flew over. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because of the female algorithm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So the very, very first episode that I was in charge of of the um of the podcast. So what they they kind of figured that like a nice little intro to that was that I was gonna do like solo episodes. I was gonna do one episode with one of the co-hosts, the other co-hosts, and then Angie and I did our marathon of an episode. And then the last test was Mama Birds were like, okay, time to fly the nest. And you you run your episode, you do the intro, you do your topic, we chit-chat about this, that, and the other thing. Let's go. And so I was like, okay, cool. We were gonna do uh video games, like video games that we see were most for whatever reason how we would classify a Mount Rushmore video games. That's what the episode was. So I th I the intro was something along the lines of like kind of like that, oh, the mama birds are kicking me out of the nest and see if I can fly. And today we're gonna talk about something incredibly near and dear to my heart. And I think I pause for exactly when I went the female orgasm. Two of them completely just they fed, they had no clue what to do. They I complet I caught them completely off guard.

SPEAKER_00

And uh we were clutching, we were clutching our pearls. We were like, what? Clutch pearls, you know why.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, please, enlightenment. I'm clutching my pearls right now. His conversation goes very much farther.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I cracked some type of a joke like that and just come just exactly to keep them on their toes. They had no clue what the hell was going on, which is that was so much fun. It's genuinely so much fun. Like just yeah, it's great because you never know. Like I said, it's that's that's when the funny antics kind of happens organically.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I do want to say sometimes that's just like saying something to somebody just to get an expression out of them, and that blabens the room up. Oh, yeah, it's like minimum.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, but your mom would crack your dirty jokes in front of Tyler just to get him to like, ah my god, no, and that's like run away. And it's just like, dude, just ignore it. They stop, and that's exactly what I did. I don't think you guys have ever cracked a joke like that since. Like in front of me at least. Which one? I don't know, just being like stupid, cute things like honey, save this for the bedroom later, and you're like putting the ketchup away or some shit. Yeah, put the ketchup in a whipped cream, yeah, something like that one. Yeah, and Tyler will, my younger brother to be like, oh my god, my god. And they just keep doing it. I just ignored it, and they just have not made that joke sense in front of me. Well, you're not here to make it in front of you. All right, fair enough. We'll give it to that one. Two shack scores even.

SPEAKER_00

Hey, before we get too sidetracked, I do want to say um thank you both for agreeing to do this. Um, we've been talking about getting you guys together on this for what six months? Um but yeah, I and I just really appreciate you all giving your time and doing this for me. Well, you're welcome. Thank you. I mean, before and I want to say this before we get going, and then you all leave this session probably hating us.

SPEAKER_01

So why would we leave? Huh?

SPEAKER_00

Well, one thing never mind. I was gonna go straight for it, Kyle, but I'll I'll let you start off with the topic.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, straight for a haha or an Oklahoma? Where were you going?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I was for the thing we've been talking about, talking about with them for six months. I was gonna go straight for it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, we're just gonna trigger them and then just let it go?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You want me to?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, you go for it because hell physically strike me.

Kicking Off Conspiracy Talk

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So one of the things that we wanted to talk to you all about, and it's a subject that's very near and dear to our heart, is um some conspiracy theories. And I want to get your take on the belief that the uh moon landing is fake.

SPEAKER_01

Huh.

SPEAKER_00

Well, there's compelling evidence there's there's compelling evidence that the moon landing is.

Moon Landing: Evidence And Doubt

SPEAKER_03

What what is why do you believe that they didn't happen? Good question. Why is it you you don't believe that it happened?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I don't know, I I don't I don't I don't know that I necessarily believe the theory. I think that there's some interesting there's some interesting notations about uh like the whole thing with Stanley Kubrick. Um how he's come out, he came out and said basically that he orchestrated the filming of the Moon Landing.

SPEAKER_04

I give that a 50-50 because Kubrick was not true.

SPEAKER_03

That's human being. That's the first I've heard that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that he came forward.

SPEAKER_03

That's the first I've heard that. I I have not heard that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I read about that once. Uh some on that. I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_00

So some of the things that people say are like um they how it was filmed. Um I'm trying to think of some of the the reasons people think that the moon landing is fake.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I know, I know there's this infamous picture that exists that's been shown, you know, a million times of um, I forget it was probably Neil Armstrong standing on the moon, uh standing on the moon. They got a picture of the Earth in the background, and there isn't one star to be seen in the sky. Now, I mean I don't know. All right? I I I I don't know if that I mean at this point in time um can they produce something like that? I'm sure. With today's technology, they can do anything like that.

SPEAKER_04

I can probably do it right now, Jack, okay.

SPEAKER_03

Um what I find it hard to b see, I find it hard to believe that it didn't happen. Because as a kid, you're sitting there watching it. This was the biggest thing. Remember Kennedy challenged Kennedy challenged America to put a man on the moon before 1970.

SPEAKER_04

He also promised to serve four full years.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that wasn't his fault. Okay, um, you know, that was what was uh promised, okay? And you know, it when you're in when you when your closest competition is Russia, okay, you gotta do it before they do. Okay? Again, we're going back. This is the 60s. Okay, this is the this is the mid to late 60s. Alright? So, uh, so I I find it hard to believe that quote is any conspiracy that it it was a fake and all of a sudden I mean we sat there and we watched it. Okay? We watched it. Um you know, and and I I just I just think it's uh I I can't I can't believe that it didn't happen. And all that all those moon moonshots were all fake. I can't believe it didn't happen. Yeah, and mind you now, it's your turn. My turn. Right, because the Artemis is being built. We're going back to the moon. Yeah. Okay? So now at this point in time, you could, you know, it's your turn to say, okay, we're going to the moon now again. There's the rocket. So whether you want to believe it or not, you're gonna see it.

SPEAKER_04

Listen, I want to see affordable groceries first, if I'm being honest. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03

And affordable healthcare, too. But I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Can I expand on something your dad Ray was uh saying there? Yeah, go for it. Please, by all means. Okay, so your uh your dad just mentioned we were in this big uh race with Russia and possibly even China to some degree back then. So if it was not true, if it wasn't true that they landed on the moon, don't you think Russia would be publishing all kinds of stuff back then to discredit it just to make us look bad as the as the US? Does that make sense? For sure, that does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and then also backing up what you said about the pictures, because like I said, there's not one star in the sky, but I mean, look at all the photos from the International Space Station. There's no stars in the skies there. It's because the the the way that the the way that it's captured, pictures, the stars are captured with the type of cameras that they have to actually get clear ones, so there's not that there's different sun glares and also kind of blah blah blah, so and so forth. The light from the stars doesn't reflect off because it's space is much more open than Earth. Oh, yeah. So they literally don't, they literally don't show up. I mean, I'm not an astronaut, I'm no type of uh, you know, national, but I you know, my very loose knowledge of how lights and reflections and so the so forth crap like that works. Just like if people think there'd be like explosions and sounds in space, there's not.

SPEAKER_03

I think the other just like for all those sci-fi pictures you see with fire, there's no such thing as fire in space either, because there's now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I think the other thing is Ray and myself, we grew up back in those in that era. Yep. You you young kids didn't, you're just relying on what other people's ideas are that happened. We were there, we saw it. So yeah. So that's why I believe it.

Stars In Photos And Space Myths

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah. It's like like kind of like what kind of like what Ange said towards the beginning of this one. I I need to remind you every single time we talk about this that I believe you. I believe Neil Armstrong, I'm on your side of it. No, I can tell you how many times I just kind of will just say something like jokingly. I'll tell the infamous trivia night story again for Crown. I think I've said that story three times on this freaking podcast. But I but listen, I believe you. I'm just saying, it's like there's a couple, you know, every now and then there will be certain things that just don't line up. But I I honest to God believe, I I think just the absolute smoking gun that it did happen. You have any idea how many people were involved in that? How many people you have to keep quiet for so long? There were millions of people involved in that. Just just that alone is enough for me. Like, this that's impossible. That's impossible. It's just ah, but no, then there is other stuff. Okay, the lost transmissions, this, the that, and the this shouldn't be this, and just where we were technologically, and then we just miraculously kind of pulled the so there are some parts like the math doesn't add up, but then there's other things like it. That just the amount of people involved. That math adds up perfectly any given way in twice on Sunday.

Cold War Logic And Firsthand Memory

SPEAKER_00

So it's like I tell you, the thing that I believe more I'm I do think we we landed on the moon. Um, it's fun to kind of go with conspiracy theories sometimes, but the one thing I do believe in wholeheartedly, and I will die on this hill, that we haven't been back to the moon because there is evidence that there is um alien settlement on the dark side of the moon. I think that we became aware of something. We had contact on the moon and we haven't been back because of some kind of agreement. How do you know there's I I have you how you know there's alien because they have picked up um there's all kinds of videos where people have noticed structures. Um NASA will cut the feed from um like the live view when weird shit looks like it's coming off the moon. They have, I mean, there's all kinds of videos everywhere where there are um like perfect area. There are structures, I mean not structures, but ships coming off and on the moon.

SPEAKER_03

I've never seen those.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, you haven't seen them either.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and in fact, there was there was one not too long ago. A guy was recording um with his um telescope, and he was doing a live broadcast, and there was like something that landed and took off on the moon.

SPEAKER_01

That was Moonmaid, Dick Tracy's uh daughter, daughter-in-law.

SPEAKER_00

Moonmaid?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Ray, you remember Dick Tracy, don't you?

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Moonmaid, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. That's probably what they saw. Moonmaid taking off the rooks.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's the conspiracy I he'll I die on.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that there's aliens on the moon.

SPEAKER_01

But you know, mankind can come up with all kinds of things for nothing. No matter what, as an example, there's people that believe the Holocaust didn't happen. As far as that somebody else brought up the Holocaust before I did.

SPEAKER_00

Every every episode. The Holocaust.

SPEAKER_04

But at least this one will probably get left in.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, my jokes get cut. Look, like everything else, you know. We we don't know because we didn't experience it. There's people that did experience it. Right. Okay. They're the ones that are gonna have the truth. All right. And we still have a government that there's a lot of truth that they don't want us to know about. That's like my favorite scene.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, that's one of my favorite scenes in cinema history is the first men in black. Honestly, the whole basis of the first men in blacks when when Will Smith finds out about everything and Tomley Jones is trying to recruit him and so on and so forth. And so they don't report to the government, they have it all quiet and whatever. And he goes, like, why keep it a secret? Why the big thing?

SPEAKER_01

He goes, Because the thing is, that's a movie. It's not real life.

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's my dad is sitting here with the biggest puzzled look on his face. Like, what the hell is this guy talking about?

SPEAKER_02

Well, no, no, but but there's no exactly.

SPEAKER_04

No, it is it is a good movie. Yes, yes, no, I'm not that like there's a movie.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I love the movie.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but no, there's the scene that he's there and he's telling him. Will Smith asks, like, why all the secret? Why people would understand? He goes, like, a person would understand because a person was capable of reason, but people are violent, arrogant, ignorant, and capable of anything, literally not. Right. That's why there's so much secrecy. Right. And so it's a work of fiction, but that line is true.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and like I said, again, we still we we live in a society where you know things happen and there's cover-ups, you know, because they don't want us to know. I don't know why. I I think sometimes I think personally, you know, it's like the what difference does it make? But hey, that's the way they want things.

SPEAKER_01

So maybe because they're trying to think of society as a whole, because if some let's say some spacecraft did land here, uh or if they had, people would get ridiculous, they'd go crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I do think that that they have had to wait to almost condition humanity that we're not alone. Because I think if if humanity had found out, look, a hundred years ago or even fifty, sixty years ago, I think there would have been a much different reaction than now, because I think movies can be used as a way to like condition, like it's not it's not such a foreign concept to us because of all the movies and and technology and all the things that we have now. I think they've had to wait for humanity to get to the point where it wouldn't be like mass chaos. And I think, I think even now though, I mean look, if a if a spacecraft parked itself on the White House lawn, it there would still be mass panic.

SPEAKER_01

So you think that's why they make movies like Space Cowboys so that we can uh get used to it, accustomed to it?

SPEAKER_00

I think I think that um movies like um Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I think absolutely Steven Spielberg knows some stuff that um and I think that he's there there have been certain people that have knowledge about I mean you know like you have close encounters of the third kind, you have ET, you have I yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I don't know something happened with the audio on us, and now you're like, so so when you when you it's echoing horribly, yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, is it really?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, you guys are better now.

SPEAKER_03

You're better now. I don't know what you did, but you're better now.

SPEAKER_01

He's not excited now.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't do anything, yeah. Maybe maybe I need to stop talking about aliens.

SPEAKER_04

That's what you know what that's what it is. The guy's like, they're getting too close to the aliens, shut them down.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right, Jesus.

SPEAKER_01

We hear you. Well, I I I definitely believe that there's other creatures in this universe other than us. I mean, why would you just put a group of people on this one planet with all these millions of other planets out there? So I believe there is um alien uh creatures, humans, whatever they are.

SPEAKER_04

I I really hope they're the ones from Mars attacks. I really hope they're I really hope they're those ones.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

I love that movie so much. As long as we've got somebody can sing that one song that blows them up. I can't remember. Explode.

SPEAKER_04

It would be fantastic if Tom Jones sang that song and stopped them all. That would be great.

SPEAKER_00

Who won who was that guy that sang that song?

SPEAKER_04

If you sing that whatever freaking song, that Yodel song.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, who who it who was the singer of that song? Um oh my god.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but he had a horrible voice. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, that's who you want in your in your corner when those little Martians arrived. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Then and only then. Then and only then. That's we'll just get that little boy that went super viral, super quick. Oh, the water day. Remember that little kid at Walmart, wherever the hell it is. And the next thing, you know, like three weeks later, he's that like the grand old Opry. Why? You know what? I changed my mind. Aliens take us out. But you know how we always say it's not Christmas until we see Hans Gruber get thrown from Nakatomi Tower. It's not the 4th of July until I hear Bull Pullman telling me that today we celebrate our Independence Day.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04

It's not the 4th of July without that movie.

SPEAKER_00

That is very true. God, it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_04

Right? It's such a great, it's like one of the best beaches in movies ever. And that movie. I love it. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_04

They can't see it, but tell the Thanksgiving story. What? The turkey? Yeah, the turkey. Okay, grandfather.

Secrecy, Movies, And Conditioning

SPEAKER_03

All right. Uh as usual, uh, Thanksgiving was here at my uh grandparents' house every year. And um my grandfather would get up. We always had it was always a lot of people. We always had a big turkey. Uh my grandfather would get up about four o'clock in the morning and he put the turkey in the oven. So uh this one particular Thanksgiving, he said to my grandmother, he says, Don't let anybody baste the turkey with the turkey baster. It was dirty. He didn't want anybody to get sick. Okay, fine. So we go out for coffee, as we did, and uh, and we come home, and uh my mother is standing there basting the turkey with the dirty turkey baster. If it's dirty, why didn't you wash it? All right, this is on my grandparents' grade. I promise you, I was there, I saw it, and I'll never forget it. Like the damn moon landing. He opened, he opened the oven door, grabbed the pan with the turkey with his bare hands. My grandfather did everything with his bare hands, never okay, opened the back door and threw the turkey out of the yard. All right, it goes about halfway down the yard, hits the ground, and explodes. All right. Grandma's crying, mom is crying, and I grabbed grandpa's like, it's time for coffee again. Let's go. Out the door we go. And it was it was lucky enough for us one of those years. My mother also had a turkey in her freezer. So we got that turkey. Thanksgiving was a little late that year, but we did have a turkey. That's not carried out. But that is no lie. He threw that burr halfway down the yard.

SPEAKER_00

Well, did you ever find out what what why what was wrong with the turkey baster? It was just dirty.

SPEAKER_03

It was just dirty. That's the type of that's that is the type of person my grandfather was. He just didn't want anybody to get sick. Didn't want anybody. My grandfather was very protective of his family. He really was.

SPEAKER_04

But he wasn't, but but he was above just washing the turkey baster to clean it. You said that, right? Like the first time I said this story, Angie goes, Why did they just clean the turkey?

SPEAKER_03

I am only telling you the story that I was, okay. I didn't wash the turkey baker, I just was there watching the bird fly down the yard, okay.

SPEAKER_00

It's like he was moving uh moving uranium around with the turkey baster.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, apparently.

SPEAKER_04

But what's funny, I wish you guys could see it. I was doing my best to keep quiet the whole time.

SPEAKER_03

But just my sons love that story. It's it's their favorite. They unfortunately never had the opportunity to meet my grandfather. My grandfather was just a great guy. He was uh just the um did he die early?

SPEAKER_04

We um oh no, but he I mean he he was he was pretty old when he died, but he died.

SPEAKER_03

72. Yeah, he was 70, he'll be it'd be uh 40 years next year. He's gone. 72. When was he born? He was born in 1914.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, yeah. So his body was probably like 97. What it was those were hard times.

Pop Culture Detours And Laughs

SPEAKER_03

So even to 72, that was like oh he worked, I mean, he worked every day plus Saturdays, you know what I'm saying? I mean, uh, you know, you know, he had friends where he worked, where he worked here in the state of Connecticut, he had friends that had uh lobster boats on the Quinnipiap River, and every once in a while he would uh you know say, hey, Ralph, you want to give us a hand? Yeah, all right. He'd go out with them and he'd come home with three or four bushels of lobsters in the back of his car. Oh wow. And we uh believe me when I tell you, I ate lobster like people eat hot dogs and hamburgers today. We we I mean, we we thought nothing. We hey, we have lobster. Great, you know. Oh god, lobster again.

SPEAKER_00

You know what?

SPEAKER_01

It it would uh yeah, we did the same thing with baloney. Oh my god, that's great.

SPEAKER_04

What's the other joke that you had? We growing up, we ate so much, we ate so much chicken and pasta I could cluck an Italian. Right, cluck an Italian. Jeez, man. It's just like every other night, man. I said, yeah, every night I got pasta chicken, maybe even chicken baked pork chops because no, I got lobster, lobster tails, all something.

SPEAKER_03

That's the truth.

SPEAKER_04

I know it's the truth, and it's still bullshit.

SPEAKER_01

That's whatever it was around the group. Uh where you grew up at.

SPEAKER_00

I I would not thrive in that family because I have a shellfish allergy with the lobsters. I have a shellfish allergy, I would not thrive in that family.

SPEAKER_01

But you didn't use that your whole life when you were young. You used to eat that shellfish and stuff. We'd take you to when we went on vacation. Somewhere in your life you became allergic to that. Oh, I'd you have to go into a stupid thing if you can.

SPEAKER_00

I know, I know. Like, how dare I? So inconsiderate.

SPEAKER_01

No, some people can be go the whole half of their life and not be allergic to anything, and then just boom, it happens.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I can tell you what I can tell you when I found out I was I was 18 at the beach and bit into a uh king crab leg.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah, they'll learn quick. Oh wow. And you should have heard that thing scream when she did that. He didn't have time to get back in the water. The sand was flying, he was digging like hell. But like I could see this for you.

SPEAKER_04

I can see it though. I just see like an engine's like running. Hey, just grab and just take a jump out of it.

The Thanksgiving Turkey Tale

SPEAKER_01

She didn't have a lot to eat when she's growing up. She grabbed the first thing she could find. Good thing she wasn't around when they threw that turkey down to travel. She'd go running with a nut.

SPEAKER_02

I got it, I got it, I got it, I got the leg.

SPEAKER_04

Running like uh running like air buds going for just gonna do this and just jumped out of catch and off.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_04

That's funny. Um you know what though, actually kind of backpelling that one. I think the reason why I like the Thanksgiving story so much is just like how animated you get while telling it, like sitting right next to him here up in like the computer room. It's the window in the room. I'm I'm fucking doing it. I'm pointing to the window like they can fucking see it.

unknown

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

I'm pointing at the fucking shit. Anyway, it's just like he's pointing this to the way he's like laying out like he's in the kitchen there. He's like moving his hands in front of, oh yeah, so the turkey baser was this and that, and that bird flew this, and he's like directing. He looks like he's like taxiing a plane like down the runway. He's moving his hands where this is. But that's why the turkey story, at least for me, why it was so funny, because like I was telling them it was that like we would be, you know, we would have like friends over, or like, you know, if there was a girl I was dating, or something like that one, we're you know, telling family stories, all sort of kind of fun stuff. We're sitting on the couch. My dad would take us, like he's missed freaking frizzle on a goddamn field trip into the kitchen to show us like where the stove was, like, so it was there, and he grabbed it and he would always just like pretend he would open the oven and grab like a fake hot pan and like walk it over to the back door. But what was really funny was when the before you guys redid the kitchen, there was the old door that had to be closed with the deadbolt.

SPEAKER_03

Well, yeah, well, was it that well, no, no, but that wasn't there. That was put in later. Yeah, no, we never had a deadbolt.

SPEAKER_04

No, what makes it so funny for me was because you still had to like be great grandpa in that story and still open the door and then open the screen door and then pretend to throw it, but like it always took like four seconds to open that door because you had to like shove your shoulder to it and like turn so like it kind of stops the momentum of the story for other people, but that was my favorite part was so much struggling with the door. Oh god, it's so funny to see that. Exactly, it's just that. There's a turkey. Wait a minute, Gramps. Is this about something else? Are you trying to tell us something?

SPEAKER_03

Would have been funny, would have been even funnier if the door closed before it's worth turkey.

SPEAKER_04

Oh bang, and there's a bird right there. Oh what if nowadays with that? All you need is if you tried to pull back crab Lunar just come over. Pop pop, are you having big feelings? You see, Miss Rachel's gas or something like that one. That would be pretty funny.

SPEAKER_03

Oh the good old days. Were the old days? Yeah, they were. They were, they were the good old days. They were, it was so simple back then.

SPEAKER_01

It wasn't so fast-paced back then. It was some of the old songs. Ray, you probably remember some. I don't how old are you, Ray? 64. 64. So you remember the music back in the 60s and 50s, and I could hear those songs, those music, and I I drift back to how life was back then.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. It was so much, it was so much simpler. It was. I tell these guys, I tell my sons all the time, I says, you know, we only had one TV in the house. Yeah, you know, you didn't have three like you have today. We only had one channel. And of course, if if you know grandma's watching one life to live, that's it. You're not watching anything until that show was gone. Okay? All right. So but you only had one life to live. Right, yeah. But uh, so what did you do? Well, you you went for a walk. I mean, I mean, you would go out, you know, go outside, and every the neighborhood was full of people walking because not, you know, like I said, you either had one TV or some people didn't have a TV.

SPEAKER_01

Kids were out playing, wasn't on the outside playing, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we didn't have video games and yeah, but you know what you did have though, like polio and rickets and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, we had to have fun somehow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's like see that was your Pokemon back then. Gotta catch them on, you know. We did things with other kids. For instance, one instance I did, we were playing Cops and Roberts, and had this little uh I was a cop, and this little fella was on a bicycle riding around, and he told me I needed to stop him. So I was on a little hill, had this tire, uh the case, and I was standing up there. About the time he rounded there the curve, I let go of that tire, and that thing hit him, knocked him off his bike. He told me to stop him. We were playing Cops and Robbers.

Lobsters, Allergies, And Family Bits

SPEAKER_03

Yes, well, I stopped you, you know. Yeah, you you know, well, and and there every once in a while there's this thing on Facebook, and it says, Yeah, well, we drank from hoses, we played outside until it was dark, and yeah, we did all that stuff. We played in the streets, so did I just literally so did I. Huh? Literally so did I. Yeah, but I mean, it wasn't, you know, oh, don't do that, you're gonna get sick. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, it's it wasn't, you know, it it's not the it wasn't the hung up society that it is today.

SPEAKER_04

I do got a question about that whole thing, because always with those ones, it's always like, oh, we stayed out until the street lights came on. I just realized something. That has got to be an e an East Coast specific like like like like thing. Because you've been out my way. You've been out my way in the summertime. Our streetlights don't come on until 9 30, quarter to 10 at night. It doesn't get dark until 9 30 quarter. Exactly. So, like, yeah, let's look around here. I feel that's kind of an average time. In the summertime, the kids are out. Yeah, come on when the street lights come on. Well, the street lights come on and it gets dark. Yeah, about like seven or eight or something, so like that. The sun is still up in all of his glory at like eight o'clock at night in July, where I am.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was the strangest thing. When we first went out, when we first went out to visit him, and I'm like, it's 8:30, quarter to nine. Why is the sun still up?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, it's like, because not for nine o'clock is my bedtime. I mean, you know, I want to go to sleep, but the sun is still up. Okay, I gotta stay up longer.

SPEAKER_04

So I just I always wondered if like kids in Michigan and whatnot, okay, home when the street lights are on, that's like 10:30.

SPEAKER_01

It's like 10 o'clock. Yeah. Well, we grew up in the country. We didn't have street lights. We had five lights.

SPEAKER_03

Lanterns.

SPEAKER_01

When you hear the banchos, get home.

SPEAKER_00

That's right. Lightning.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god. Meanwhile, she's Ed stuck in like a pig. Shit I funny, ha-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god, any queer. Sling blade. Funny haha or funny queer.

SPEAKER_04

Ain't no gas in it. I had a scoutmaster. That was his favorite movie in the whole world, and he did a really good impression of him. That was funnier than hell. That was like Mr. Sears' like that was his like initiation of some of the newer scouts to see if they could like stick it. Is he was scared the shit out of them in the middle of the night doing his sling blade impression, like outside of the tent. French fried biscuit, huh? Like, exactly. He's always just like standing outside of the gun goes, they call her Thompson blade, I call her sling blade, and you think French fried tigers. Outside of your cab, outside of your tent at like two o'clock in the morning, and you just hear this grouchy old vicious Vietnam veteran just doing a sling body impression. But at the same time, though, I understand you were not allowed to like you had to be cut from a very specific cloth in my boy Scout troop because we all the scoutmasters that we had, they were one, they were all veterans. The head scout master, I want to say he um he did two tours Vietnam's marine infantry. So like you you could not complain to this man whatsoever.

SPEAKER_00

Was he like Gunny in um uh plain Agewood? No, full metal jacket.

Streetlights, Simpler Times, Roughhousing

SPEAKER_04

Like let's put it this way Gunny would check under his bed for Mr. Sears. I say it just like he he was the nicest, kindest man. He he just a heart, you know, harder absolute gold, but like tough as shit. Like when we thought one of the kids cut his fingers off with a freaking sh because we were being stupid. Um, he was just like, Yeah, that's why there's tape. And we have some. I shit you not. I shit you not. We probably cut Matt Stanowitz's fingers off. He was just like, Yeah, why do you think there's tape? You guys got to keep your hands up or whatever. You got leaves? What do you mean you got leaves? I'm 10. Yeah, we use less tape. You have smaller fingers. He was so serious. Sorry, God.

SPEAKER_00

But honestly, could you imagine though? A uh like a real life gunny with a with a bunch of little kids and a scout master uh like talking to the kids like in that movie. They put him in jail. Hilarious.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, he oh, he did that every now and then because because he did when he was done, he actually went back and he became a drone instructor. I think he did for the I think he did that for five years before he completely retired from the Marines. He was he was a drone instructor post-nom era for uh I think he said like five years, four or five years.

SPEAKER_03

There isn't a kid that would want to join the scared.

SPEAKER_00

He wasn't here, you little maggots.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I think he got a side switch to letter, I think, but close. It was jelly. One jelly donut. You owe me for what? I love that damn movie. That was Kubrick, too, wasn't it? That was Kubrick, wasn't it? He made that. Yeah, maybe. Hey, look at that. We've come full circle. And C We do that from time to time. A couple of them.

SPEAKER_00

That one story I wanted you to tell them um is the the four boats.

SPEAKER_01

It's an old uh it's a coal miner's uh story, true story, but uh there was this old boy from um Virginia, and then he had a I know I have an accent, but he had a worse accent than I did.

SPEAKER_00

Like Think Virginia close to Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so we were underground and he was back in this piece of equipment called a shield. But anyway, he was back in there working, and uh the the foreman at the mine came down and Dennis hauled it out, yelled at him and said, Hey Bill, said you wouldn't happen to have a couple of boats in your pocket, would you? He meant bolts. You know, like nuts and bolts. But he said, you wouldn't happen to have a couple of boats in your pocket. Oh Bill looked at him and said, Dennis, if I had two boats, I wouldn't need to I wouldn't need to be working here. Are you shitting he's not even saying bolt boat?

SPEAKER_00

Well, what did I come back and say, Do you understand this? Fuck you.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's when Dennis came out of the shield and looked at him and said, Bill said, Do you understand this? And stuck his finger up and said, Fuck you.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he thought he was talking about boats that that you ride in. Boats, that's excellent. I just picture it. You wouldn't have to have a couple of boats in your pocket, would you?

SPEAKER_00

God, I'm telling you, some of these stories were diabolical, like the shit they would do to each other's um dinner buckets, and I think mom got tired of somebody stealing your your lunches for one.

SPEAKER_01

When I became a foreman, then um I used to bring a bucket, but on the as a foreman, I had to make runs all over the place back and forth, and I hardly ever eat my lunch. And when I did did get ready to eat my lunch, somebody had already got in it and eat my uh sandwiches, cakes, whatever. So my wife fixed some uh uh brownies, but she filled them full of Xlex when she finished. Yes! So went to work. This whole uh uh uh my shear operator, he he ran a piece of equipment. Anyway, we were getting ready, it was getting close to the end of the shift, and I was going up to make my run up this what they call a face. I won't go into all of that, but but he was going and he said, Ed said, Man, my belly's hurting. So I know who got my bucket. Oh uh so he said, Man, my stomach's hurting. So he got outside and was in the bathhouse getting ready to take a shower. He was going to uh he was naked as could be, taken off, and this guy grabbed him and said, Porky, where are you going? He said, Let me go. I gotta go shit, man. So I guess he shit his brains out that whole night there. He never got in my bucket again.

Scouts, Tough Mentors, And Kubrick

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's beautiful. He said he's it wasn't. I was just like, okay, I'm curious to see where this is gonna go. Because I got because I already said, I was like, Oh, she was getting tired of someone stealing your food because oh, feel the full X-Lax. I knew the exact ending of this story. No worries. One of the guys did that uh as like the senior prank that in uh at his high school. He went to a uh Catholic, he went to uh uh Notre Dame of West Haven. It was the um you know, a boy school. Is this a boys on uh all boys' school, boys-only school, whatever the thought. I don't know. And so um, yeah, I forgot what one of the guys like said or did or whatever the hell it's like, yeah, because it was like toward, yeah, it was towards the end of the year, and uh it was like he said like his mom or someone or whoever the hell made plenty. He brought on like yeah, like two trays of brownies, or like two trays of like cakes or cupcakes, whatever the hell it was, something like that one. And he goes, Yeah, she brought him in for everybody, and this, that, and the other, and also that kind of fun stuff. And so there's like two dozen bros just like down in this cake and brownie at like you know, seven o'clock in the morning, like eight o'clock in the morning. That was apparently that made for one interesting day of school. Oh, I'm sure. And he was never happier that his bus was late that day because he was absolutely like, oh man, that was that was pretty fun.

SPEAKER_01

That'd be when he told us that one, I was like, that's good, but we had one old boy that he he nailed everybody's dinner bucket down to a piece of wood. Yet at quitting time, everybody ran up there to grab their buckets, and hell, they picked up that whole board and everything. Problem is he nailed his own bucket down so no one would think he did it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's genius. You gotta get yourself in on the joke, too. Oh, dude, I'm kind of upset with that. Like, I didn't have the genius to do this one, but one that happened, I mean, I don't even know who did it, but it was at the um I think it was my younger brothers. I I think it was in his grade, what some kid did who was really good with computers, apparently was able to either he got access to the principal's computer and stuff or hacked into it, whatever. I don't know. But I'll never forget that when we got this, we got this letter in the mail, and shit. Either you or mom, one of you guys were reading it with like, what the hell is this? And then the I think mom read it and she was freaking out, and you read it, you knew it was fake, or vice versa. But the kid got into like the principal's stuff and bangs, Lori, and um typed up this like bug, thank you for that. Uh typed up this bogus letter that was then sent to, you know, like just sent print mail and the and the printer that was there, the the the the letters that they printed out was put in envelopes, they were addressed, they were stamped, and they were mailed out to the entire student, the entire school body. And the letter was something along the lines as followed that like on such and such a date, we have people of the health department coming in to do mandatory penis inspections of the boys, and the girls will be excused for this, that, and the other thing. Boys with penises smaller than this much, smaller than such and such will be failed. I have to repeat the grade if it's bigger than this, also, so the average size is okay about this, and blah, blah, blah. And the girls would be inspected for this and the other thing, and yeah, whatever the hell it was. Some absolutely, but you know, then at the bomb, you know, it's you know, principal, blah, blah, blah, so on and so forth. Like the official like letters from the school that was the funniest fucking thing ever. Oh my god, was that is I was like, this kid better not get in any trouble. Technically, this that's a federal offense. This kid's screwing with the mail, technically, but they need to get the biggest pass. If anything, they should get a key to the city because that's funny as hell. That's a good thing. That is gold. Well, I just remember one of you guys reading it, and you you guys were freaking out. It might I think it was mom. And mom was reading it, and she was like, I'm getting the keys and I'm going. My mom would have just like just started knocking her head. She just started just like punching people out, just left and right. But it was like, mom, it's a joke, calm down, it's a joke. Uh, she's gone.

SPEAKER_01

But that's mom's.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was gonna say it's a model.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, going to that protective mother bear, protective.

SPEAKER_00

Mother bear mode, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know if my mom's protective or I don't know. She says it's protective, but sometimes mom plays offense way too much. Like, it's the best thing about her, but like, I'm just being a mama bear. No, no, no. Mama bear is defensive. That was full on offense. That was preemptive strike.

SPEAKER_03

That's that's not that doesn't work. This is the part of the show where I keep my mouth shut.

SPEAKER_01

Like I said, remember, this is the part of the show where Angie What did you say? She could have said first punch is what matters. First punch is what's matters.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think Angie liked the story. I think I told it, I haven't forgotten if it was on the podcast. It was one of the times we were shooting shit, but I told the story of uh when she punched the priest in the face when her grandmother died.

SPEAKER_00

God, I love that story. I love that story so much.

SPEAKER_03

That was not mom.

Coal Mine Pranks And X‑Lax Justice

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it was mom. Mom told me that. My aunts told me that, my grandmother. Everyone was multiple multiple sources confirmed it was my mother. Is that okay? Okay, multiple sources. Your wife. That was good. Look at Jed in the eyes and tell me that's not that that's very mom. That's very characteristic, mom.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I guess. Yes, he's being very diplomatic.

SPEAKER_04

I guess I'll just tell the story and make sure that I'll know that it's all in this one. It was uh when my mother was very, very close with her grandmother. And uh they were they were she was very, very close with her grandmother, and it was right when she had passed, and you know, she was having just like a difficult time with it, and so on. It's like, oh, you know, she you know, she was crying, she was hysterical, and so on and so forth, and the priest who was there to do the last rites and so on and so forth. Um if I remember correctly, the priest like grabbed my mom by like the shoulders or whatever it is, and there was something along the lines of like she's dead, just deal with it, kind of a thing, right? When mom like breaks free, she pulls back, and she just Mike Tyson right crosses and just bam, just right in the damp basin, just like storms out of the hospital, whatever the hell it is. My mother told that story, my aunt told that story.

SPEAKER_03

Your grand, I tell you what, mom's mom's grandma, she was cool. She was very cool. Okay, I know I mean she was very good to me. All right, yeah, and the first nice meeting. What's up? The first time I'm ever I'm ever meeting her, all right? Just I think my wife and I were dating for like maybe two, three months. The first time I'm ever meeting her, she's come out, yeah, sure, okay. So I walk in, there's the she is on oxygen, okay? And she lights up a cigarette.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03

And I says, and I'm like, now I'm looking at this, and I'm just okay, don't say nothing. You don't want to make a scene or anything like that there, right? Okay, fine. So we leave, we get ready to leave, we get into my pickup, and I just I I just stopped and I just turned to my wife and I says, Does your grandmother have a death wish? And she just started laughing. I says, because I don't want to go with her. She feels like blowing herself up by all means, you know. You know, I just want to I just want to know what it's gonna happen, so I'm not there. But she was a very uh she was a very, very nice lady. Oh, she was always really great to me. She really was. With that, we will record the outro.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, well, Ray, it was nice uh meeting you uh voice-wise.

SPEAKER_00

Virtually, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And it was a pleasure.

SPEAKER_01

This was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed it. I'm glad we had the opportunity to do this. Yeah, me too. Uh Angie's been trying to get me to do this for a while. I'm a bashful kind of person.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you you're real bashful.

SPEAKER_04

I get embarrassed real easy. No, I just straight up told dad he goes, Hey, Dad, when I'm there, you're doing this. And he was like, What? I was like, You're doing this. I was like, All right.

SPEAKER_03

Well, again, it's something new. I never done it before. I don't know what to expect. I know what to expect now. So many jokes to be made there.

SPEAKER_01

This was a lot of fun. This was really a lot of fun. And now that I've done it one time, I never want to do it another damn time. This is it for me, folks. I'm just joking. No, it was enjoyable. Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's that. Now everyone can leave us the hell alone. We can leave our dads alone. They can go back to sleeping in the recliner because they definitely were watching the game and they know exactly what's going on. That's what I take the moment. Take the moment, thank dad for putting up with my bull crap today and for the past 30 whatever years. Um, Ed, thank you very much for taking the time out of your day. And on a little bit of an Oklahoma moment, brace yourself, Ange.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, God.

SPEAKER_04

I would also like to thank you, Ed, very much for raising such an interesting and um a very special woman. Well, uh, you've done an unbelievable job.

SPEAKER_01

And appreciate that. And again, it was enjoyable. Thanks very much for the invitation. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And uh, and Ray, on on that note, I I also thank you and your wife for um Kyle. You know, I I know that it probably wasn't an easy task because I have to edit him every week and just for a moment. But um, but no, he's he's uh he's a hell of a friend. Um I'm I'm very lucky to to know him and and thank you so much for the the job that you did in in raising him. You you got a you got a good one there.

School Pranks And Parental Fire

SPEAKER_03

Thank you, Angie. We appreciate it. Um my my wife and I, we've always uh we we we we've done the best that we can as parents. Um and it's up it's up to them now. They're they're old enough, it's up to them to make their uh their way into the world. So uh we just hope we did it. We just hope we we what we did we did right. That's all.

SPEAKER_04

Didn't you hear how much he has to edit me? Also, last question how how like jealous are you that she gets to edit me? You you just gotta deal with me. She was like, nope, don't want him to say that, don't want him to say that, don't want him to say that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I have to hear him like so. We record maybe an hour. I have to hear him over and over and over until uh I get it, get it finished. So yeah. There are times that I want to strangle him. No. Love you, Pi. I mean it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah. Well, again, thank you very much for inviting us. I I really appreciate it. I had a great time. I really do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. And to all of our listeners, thank you so much for listening to this episode. Please be sure to um like, follow, um, share these episodes with your friends. That's the biggest way to help us out. And uh, we'll see you again next week. Thanks. Bye. Are you gonna honk?

SPEAKER_02

Honk.

SPEAKER_00

I was like my kid.

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