S1E14: Gabby Gooses: From FYP To Forever Friends

A TikTok scroll. A leather jacket. A voice that stopped us cold. That’s how Kylie found our corner of the internet—and how a playful live turned into a story about healing, friendship, and finding your own voice. What starts light gets real fast: we trace the way Audio Erotica, music, and community helped her move through a rough season, book a flight to Denver for Sleep Token with someone she’d never met, and walk into a hotel room where a first hug felt like old friends reuniting.

We explore why voice-first media can do what text sometimes can’t. Kylie shares how AJ’s Quinn audios and music became a catalyst for self-respect, better boundaries, and a louder, prouder relationship with desire. The community blossomed into daily support and a shared symbol: a firefly tattoo inspired by the line “She was perfect just as she was.” That tiny light now glows on necks and wrists across the world, a quiet rebellion against shame.

There’s more laughter than tears—trust us. We nerd out about Unsolved Mysteries, the comfort of Robert Stack’s tone, and how good sound makes stories live in your bones. We pull apart why some adaptations work (Passionflix honoring authors) while others lose the plot in the name of “improvement.” And we gush over Dungeon Crawler Carl and Soundbooth Theater’s cinematic audiobook craft: snow that you can almost hear crystalize, a chaos cat who steals scenes, and performances that remind you why voices matter.

Underneath the jokes sits a brave arc: leaving a high-control religion, grieving lost ties, and rebuilding identity one listen at a time. If you’ve ever felt policed by guilt, or wondered if pleasure can be purposeful, this conversation offers warmth, wit, and a real path forward. Hit play, then tell a friend, follow us on Instagram, and drop a review with your favorite line—we’re cooking up more stories and maybe, just maybe, some merch. What voice changed how you see yourself?

Transcript

Disclaimer And Warm Welcome

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Before we begin today's episode, we would like to share a quick disclaimer. The views, opinions, and statements expressed by the hosts and guests on this podcast are their own personal views and are provided in their own capacity. All content is editorial, opinion-based, and intended for entertainment purposes only. Listener discretion is advised.

Meeting Kylie And Audio Erotica 101

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Kyle. It's hot enough in this closet. Stop.

SPEAKER_03 1:18

Welcome back to another exhilarating episode of the Silly Goose Society.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Hey everyone. So uh we are here today with a special guest that has become very near and dear to both of our hearts.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

She's special, all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

So we're just gonna do uh, you know, just a silly goose session with Kylie. Welcome, Kylie. Hi guys, thank you very much.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

I am what a way.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

What a way to be introduced to the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Yeah, yeah. So that's me. Jingle a belt buckle and I come a running.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Well, Kylie, do you want to introduce yourself or say anything about your hobbies?

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Oh, okay. Um, I'm Kylie and uh I met a Kyle and Angie um because of one of my hobbies. I found Audio Erotica in the fall of 2024 and joined some communities and it's changed my life. I and so that's that's what I do. I uh that's my hobby.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

And yeah, nothing's more erotic than our freaking podcast. Nothing really flips the switches. Like conspiracy theories, cryptids, what grinds your gears in airports, and rambling on for four hours on Halo.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

I was gonna bring up Halo. Could be fair.

SPEAKER_01 3:08

The algorithm brought you to me because you were being hot on the internet, and that's just what my for you page is.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Yeah, so it it it's so let's talk about how we how we met because it's that's it's kind of a wild story. It is it is insane.

The Algorithm, Lives, And Feral Community

SPEAKER_01 3:28

It's all it's it's magical insanity. It is magical insanity. Um so, like I said, I found Audio Erotica. So my TikTok FYP is nothing but like Quinn and voice actors and men being hot on the internet. And the algorithm sent me Kyle's page, and I went screaming back into the Discord um to the angels, like, there's a hot leather daddy on TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

And I found a new toy, I found a new toy, I found a new toy.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

Exactly. I was like, girl, I think one of my first comments, I tagged a couple people and I was like, I found our new playground. And and because you are um so kind and you let us uh be respectfully feral. Um when I when I saw your first live, I was like, when I when I was in your first live, I was like, girls, you got you've got to see this. And so they all just kind of flocked. And and that live went from like three people to like seven people or something like that. It would, and um, we all just kind of uh we we just fell in love with your attitude and what you do and you being hot on the internet, and um, and then what and then we met uh Angela through you.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

And um yes, because I'm the one in the comments trying to keep all you feral ladies in check.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

And and good luck, God bless you.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

That's yeah, God bless me for for that job because it gets wild. That is a Cerberus.

SPEAKER_01 5:11

Um and then we started talking to you about, I don't know, were you into um Audio Erotica then? Or were we the ones that were like, girl, you gotta you gotta check this out?

SPEAKER_00 5:23

No, I um I have I have listened to Quinn, you know, some some choice audios. Um, no, I've you know, in I think our FYPs are the same, you know, hot guys on the internet. Um, you know, it it just kind of converged into that. So yeah, we we kind of met through I think talked lightly, you know, through like the lives and you know, comments and messages. Um several of you from the angels like friend requested me and you know conversations kind of started. But then fate took another turn.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Oh yeah. I I think it was I think it was Heather that um talked to you about AJ and she did, she did.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Heather introduced me to AJ, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

And AJ is um he is a quint creator and a musician, and I found him actually not well, it was probably a little bit of a combination. Um, I was following Sleep Token and Ryan Mayers, who was my my first uh introduction to Audio Erotica, and that's like a whole story in itself, but um but the first video of AJ's I saw was him doing a sleep token cover, and I was just I was frozen. I was it was so amazing, and he's he's such an incredible vocalist that I like I was just frozen, and then I'm I'm looking through his page and I was like, this guy talks dirty too. I I I had to check the calendar. I was like, is it my birthday? And he's British? Are you fucking kidding me? What's on that? So I joined his community and and they've just become my family. And so um we of course, like we had we had to put you onto AJ, and then and then you joined the angels.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

We finally I joined the Discord server, and um yeah, just out of out uh I I out of curiosity, what was AJ singing of slip sleep token?

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Okay, this is wild.

SPEAKER_03 7:49

I cannot remember because mesmerized.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

Yeah, I I can't remember. I just I just remember like the feeling.

SPEAKER_00 7:58

Um and and it's because like after I realized like he was a filth talker, I you just glossed over just completely.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Well, I followed him immediately on Quinn, but then I went back to his TikTok and I watched every one of his covers that he'd done, anything with him singing. Because as much as I love filth, like the music will do it for me every time. Like that is uh I I love his audios. He's an incredible creator, um, writer, voice actor, editor, sound engineer. He's like, he's he's incredible. He has all the skills, but it will always, always come down to his music for me. That is has always been the most significant part of like what he does and and why I support him. So so that part of my memory is jumbled because I went and I watched all of them. So I don't I don't remember exactly the first one. I I just remember the feeling.

SPEAKER_03 8:59

Boom, one four for the music team. And then yeah, uh, yeah, I musicians are problems for me. Problem sounds like they're the soul. Never mind.

SPEAKER_01 9:15

I used to think that. I I have a history.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

So yeah, we I joined the Discord server, and then on my end of the world, I had a lot of things kind of falling apart personally. Um I had these sleep token concert tickets, and there were some things that happened, and I was like, you know, I don't want to fly halfway across the country alone.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Thank you for saying that because like yeah, I was just like, she's not gonna message. You had sleep token tickets over halfway across the country. Like two-thirds of the way across the country.

Sleep Token Tickets And A Cross-Country Gamble

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Yeah, yeah. So I had Denver um concert tickets and um had bought them with the intention of you know going with somebody specific, uh, somebody specific. Um things didn't work out. And um, so yeah, I was like, I was in a really kind of down emotional, like I that concert was so important to me. And then I had to like, well, I could probably sell them and make a lot of money off of them, you know, at least get my money back, right? You know, um, but I had already, you know, just had already bought the plane ticket, plane ticket wouldn't be refundable, all that stuff. And so Kyle and I talked, you know, pretty, pretty heavily about it. And, you know, I I think I can't remember. I put a message into the angel discord server about my situation, and and you know, I just kind of I don't know, I think I just needed some girl support at that point in time because you know the that community is so lovely and everyone's so kind and supportive. And I just I think I just need had was kind of a low moment, and then it just like magically happened.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

I think that you had been um like that was one of your first that was your first night in um in the in the angel discord, and it was in like a half hour I had booked a flight. You mentioned it, and I mentioned that um in April I flew to London for an angel meetup um to to meet like all of my new best friends and and AJ and John. And I right before that, the tickets went on sale, and I had my laptop open. I was in the queue, and like I was in this about a thousand dollars. Like these tickets are not cheap. And and I had an adult moment, I was like, girl, you're about to go to you're about to go to London. You do not need to be spending this money on these tickets. And so, like tears kind of running down my face. I closed my laptop and just said, you know, if the universe wants me to go, it will provide a way. And then, and and that was like my mantra every time I got sad about it. Like, you know, maybe I'll find some resales or something like that. And then you came in the Discord that night and said that like you had tickets. And I I believe I said I told you that story that like I hadn't I was in line and then like I thought better of it, and then you said you had an extra ticket, and I was like, do not play with me. And you said, dead fucking serious, and I I opened a tab on my laptop and went shopping for tickets right then and there. Right then and there. I was like, this is it, the universe has provided.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Yeah, and and I, you know, I had I had known, I mean, I didn't know you to the level that I know you now. Um, so it was it was it was very interesting. I can remember um telling Kyle about this, and he was like, Oh my god, you're gonna have the best time.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

I was fucking stoked. Like I was doing everything I could, tooth and nail, to keep your mindset that like, no, you you have to go to this. Is it gonna be if you had to go by yourself, is it gonna be scary? Yeah. Well, probably massively scary for sure. It may, it might rank. Um, but like you just you have got to, got to go. I knew how much I really, really knew how much it it meant and what it would do.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

Oh, you would have kicked yourself if you had not gone.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Yeah, if she had not gone, I know it just it wouldn't have helped. Like you said, yeah, it was that was a rough time. It was a that was a bit of a rut there. And I was like, she needs this. She absolutely needs this. This needs to help her. So I was just like, just for the love of fuck, go. And then she was telling me everything, and I literally like I read that message, and I I was just, thank God. I was so ecstatic. Then we did a fucking backflip. And then there was more, and there were more conversations back and forth where it's just like, well, what this? I don't really know. I was like, listen, I don't know her, I know her just as much as you do. He's like, you probably know her a little bit more than me, like on a personal level. And I was just like, I'm not getting any kind of bad feelings or whatever. I was just like, let's just be very honest with her. She seems like a very straightforward person. So he's like, hey, I promise I'm not a killer. If you're a killer, if you're a killer, just wait till after the concert.

SPEAKER_01 15:02

That was the deal.

SPEAKER_03 15:03

I won't fight, I won't struggle, no nothing. I'll help you, I'll help you pick out a spot to hide my body. Just kill me after the concert. After 25.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

And we did have that conversation. We were, I was just like, listen, you know, I don't if you're a serial killer, then um, can we just both agree that we'll kill each other after the concert?

SPEAKER_02 15:24

I do you, you do me.

unknown 15:26

Yeah.

From Discord To Denver: First IRL Hug

SPEAKER_01 15:28

I I am a really cautious person, um and for a long time a rather fearful person. So the fact that I didn't even question this, I did not question. There were I had zero, absolutely zero qualms about um flying to Denver, doing the show, and sharing a hotel room with you. I was like, this is this was meant to be.

SPEAKER_00 15:58

And so, you know, I mean, we we had talked a lot before, you know, just getting to know each other and you know, I think getting getting more and more comfortable, even though we I think innately felt comfortable. Yes, um, you know, it was just conversations, and then we had never met in person. And then I remember getting to the hotel, knocking on the door, and you opened the door, and we just, and I'm not that much of a huggy person, but like we just hugged, and we're just like jumping up and down, like you know, like we've been friends forever. It was it was the most natural meeting a person for the first time I've ever had.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

It was it was like I'd always known you.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

So there's a little follow-up to this story. Um so there was an angel meetup in April, but there was another one the end of September. And I went to that one and I told AJ Ben, I said, I I get a go see Sleep Token in a couple of weeks. And actually, like I think at that point it was maybe a couple of days because that was yeah, it was like a week or something. Yeah. And I and I said, You're gonna love this story. Like angel magic totally happened. And I told him like how we had met and that you would join the Discord. And he was like, No, I saw that. So because because AJ will like he'll read Yeah, he'll read the chats, and he was like, I watched that happen. And I was like, You are kidding me. Like he knew he knew exactly what I was talking about, and I and I it I can't remember if I ever told you that before.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

That he Yeah, you told me, yeah, you told me about that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

That he watched the whole thing happen. I was like, So anyway, I'm going, fool.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

Like a little bag of pot or crisps, whatever the fuck they call them or also they kind of be like a bag of crisps and like and then Nessie just sat there and just watched it all happen in front of him. It was fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Bag of crisp and his little jumper. Thanks, AJ, for for making Sleep Token happen for the both of us. Without, I mean, honestly, without um the feral vibes of both AJ and Kyle, although different but the same, um, none of this would have ever happened. Yeah, I so thank you, thank you both to the men in our lives. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

You're welcome. Question mark. Kyle, thanks for being hot on the internet and making it onto my FYP.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Oh man.

SPEAKER_03 18:50

Doing dumb shit with leather and buckles on the internet will be like a s will be like a single stone that causes an avalanche.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

You flapped your wings and caused a tsunami.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

I wasn't, I don't know about that. You know what? We're gonna leave that alone. We'll leave that one alone.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Phrasing, yeah, we're just gonna walk on through that.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

Just gonna moonwalk on out of here.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Y'all, you should see me right now. I'm trying so hard to be good.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

Good girl. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Hey! Whoa, ho.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

There you go.

Community Magic And Shared Symbols

SPEAKER_01 19:28

There's your I I will I will be clipping that. I think that's going to be my new notification tone. So thank you.

SPEAKER_03 19:41

Oh, not this.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

Wait, wait, wait. Oh, do it both. Do it both. Do that and the good girl. It'll be just like an audio.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

No, no, no, no. If you're good at something, never do it for free.

SPEAKER_01 19:54

For Christ's sake. I was gonna buy a belt anyway, so Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

No, I see that's the pressure on some other kind of fun stuff.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

It has to happen organically. Okay, hold on, hold on. Orgasmically.

SPEAKER_03 20:07

There you go. Thank you. Good girl. Was that better?

SPEAKER_01 20:13

That was great. That'll do. That'll do.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

That'll do when I'll do. That'll do slut.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Oh shit, I'm clipping that one too. That's gonna be my ringtone.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

That'll do slut. That'll do slut. My mama calling?

SPEAKER_01 20:32

That'll do slut.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

Oh I don't even do it on purpose.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

AJ's server has over 800. And at one point in time, when the first really big influx was happening, I was um trying to befriend everyone. And so I I've heard so many stories about the healing, um, the ref the reshaping of how they feel about them themselves, their bodies, and what they deserve uh in the realm of pleasure and um and just what they're really upping their standards uh on what they expect from the partners in their lives and finding finding their voices, and it's been the most unexpected part of of all of this since getting involved. I've seen I I've got friends that have started like whole new um careers or like or s or side gigs. I have so many friends that are writers and they're and they're actually making some money at it. And I have other friends that have started VA work, and it's been it's been really, really incredible to see.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Um and I also want to say, you know, Quinn Quinn does have a very wide Variety. So you have some creators on there who just like read or read poetry or just tell like soothing their voices are just soothing to like help you go to sleep or help you stress manage. It's not, I mean, like I said, there's a there's a whole spectrum, so you can go like you need that calming voice to just kind of help you de stress, and you know, you just want to hear a good story, you can get that. If you want to go completely like balls to the wall, like completely filthy, you can get that as well. Um, but I I like that that variety because and you're right, it but you know, I think like like you said, a lot of women can go there and figure figure themselves out.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

I know that's what happened for me.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Um there are so I don't want to square, I don't, you know, if somebody's listening to this and like interested in Quinn, I don't want people to think that it's all just you know smut. Right. There's a wide variety of things that you can find. And there's um there's a wide variety. There are, you know, uh male creators, there are female creators, it's a it's a whole spectrum.

Beyond Smut: Healing, Variety, And Voice

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Yes. And AJ's um the first uh safe for work sleep aid that he did is called Liora and the Firefly. And it's one of uh his most played and it became like kind of precious to the community and so precious that um when AJ reached 250,000 plays, he got um several tattoos representing the audios he had done up until then, and one of them was a firefly, and he got it on the side of his neck, and now I think over 30 of us have that matching tattoo. Um, I've got it, and and it's just kind of um this really beautiful, wonderful story um about a girl realizing that she's she doesn't have to be anything other than herself. And the line in the story is she was perfect just as she was, and that I put those words um on my tattoo with my Firefly. So and and all of us kind of have a little different take on the Firefly. Um are some are exactly like AJ's and some have like added little bits, and um so it's it's really cool to to have like this this matching symbol of our friendship with with my friends all over the world.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

That's really that's really cool. I like that it's sweet.

SPEAKER_03 25:11

Yeah. Fireflies are cool, they're cute.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

So the so that's just one example of um Audio Erotica being so much more that's about um the comfort, the connection, um, and the connection to not only another person but also to yourself, because there's there's so much that over the years um I I didn't realize I was suppressing because I had in my mind that I had to be a certain way. Like Kyle, did you know that I I was born and raised Mormon? Did you know that?

SPEAKER_03 25:48

I did. I did. I think you told me that.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Yeah, so um, and I I didn't actually leave the church until probably about five years ago. So my entire life, my um my entire marriage and being a mother, like I I felt like I had to be a certain way because to be a good mother, a good mother looked like this, and she did these things, and she didn't do these things. Um but now that my children are grown and you know, finding audio oh erotica, it like completely changed my view of myself of sex. Um and and it's given me permission to to bring out these these things and to s and to speak them publicly and loudly and proudly and without shame. That's I yeah. I like belts.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

That's great. That's great. I like belts and I'm gonna say I'm proud.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

Oh belt it out, no pun intended.

Firefly Tattoos And Self-Acceptance

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Oh, no, and I get that because you know I was raised um in a in a pretty oppressive cult. I yeah, and I hate to use the word religion because it it really it's it was a c you know, it was a it's a cult. Um and so like when you're in these high control groups, um, and I will, you know, we try to stay away from like a lot of religion and politics stuff, but you know, there are there are a lot of religions that are high control. Correct. And then and then you have like then you up the game with like the J Dubs, the Mormons, the um, oh, what's the ones that um Tom Cruise is involved with? Scientology. Scientology, you know, yeah. Yeah, I mean, those you like you go up such a notch. And when you're immersed in that and or raised in that, and and I will I I think it's harder for people who are raised in those environments um than ones that maybe came in later and then left. Because your whole world is centered around around that that core beliefs. Yes, the people that you know and the people that you're allowed to associate with.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

And and so when you leave that, you have to leave all everybody that you've ever known. You have to leave family behind. I have family that don't talk to me, that that pretty much treat me as if I don't exist, my daughter doesn't exist, because we left. And and so, you know, that that's such a psychological thing that you have to go through.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

Oh, it is a mind fuck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

And then on top of that, on top of that, that kind of specific trauma, you really don't know yourself. You don't know yourself in terms that you've never been allowed to think, or if you had those thoughts or you know, wondered about things, you had that really that guilt. Oh my god, I have, you know, like I'm I'm not gonna have, you know, whatever deities favor, you know. Um, the the guilt and the shame. Yeah, the guilt and the shame is really soul crushing.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

And that's religious across the board. That is what keeps you in line. And like that, that is what kept me from exploring like all of these other parts of me. And it kept me afraid. And it's been um, it's been a lot to try to disentangle myself and rewire my brain and my thought process because I know I know it's always I've it's always been in here. I've always been like this. But my family, the the people who knew um previous Kylie, um, they're thinking that this has come out of nowhere and that it's because I'm listening to this filth and these filthy people who are my friends online, that it's their bad influence. No, it's always been here. I I have just uh now allowed myself to bring it to the surface and and to be okay with it, and because it is okay. Like there is yeah, there is no there is no shame in wanting to be spanked.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Just you like it.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yeah, there's a t-shirt idea.

SPEAKER_03 30:53

There you go. I've oh I've been taking notes the whole time.

Leaving High-Control Religion And Finding Self

SPEAKER_00 30:58

But I think you know, like, even for me, it it went so like just to kind of like put it in another context, like even like I I went down a rabbit hole of like exploring, well, what is this universe really made of? If if this is a lie, all of this stuff that I've been taught about how the universe works, yes, what what else is out there? So like I started getting into like the paranormal, and it was something that I was always like, even little, I can like I was always fascinated with like Halloween and you know, do ghosts, you know, and you're they're just like we weren't allowed to celebrate any holidays, so Halloween was definitely off the table, right? But like I got to I really went hard into like going into figuring or experiencing paranormal stuff and going on um explorations and you know ghost hunts, and and I I love it so much um because it it just opens so much more possibilities about what happens after death because you know you're taught a certain thing. You you know, you die, you're you you know, if you have good favor, you'll be resurrected at some point in time. But if you're not, then you're just dead forever. You know, like is that is that true? Is it not? What are ghosts? What are you know these and what there's phenomena that happened, but I was never allowed to explore and think about that because that's wrong, you know, that's demonic, that's you know, so even even stuff like that, there was just such a freedom to be able to go and explore even stuff like that, be able to watch like Harry Potter and not feel guilty about it, being able to, you know, watch a paranormal investigation show and not feel guilty about it. There's just there's so many layers. This is an onion conversation. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. Ghosts and aliens, that's where I I initially went straight into those. Um, that was that was my I you know, I don't know. That was that was my erotica. That was my discovery period. Look, I don't think shame.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

If you into it, but that's what I'm up to. I'll look I'll take I'll take a look at it. If you think it's good, I'll see.

SPEAKER_00 33:46

Well, you know, I mean, there is Moth, there is Mothman, and he does have a dump truck.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

Ghost in Alien Erotica. I'm just picturing someone you can take it to your leader so we can see you take your pants off.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

That's actually a thing. There's a couple of audios that do involve ghosts. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

No. Um so but like don't cross those streams, but there are streams. They get close. They get close.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

The ghost and paranormal thing, I've always been interested in that. And I think it goes back to um the original Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack watching that. Oh yes. That was the new song scared the shit out of me, but I could not stop watching. And that's where my love of like aliens and Roswell came from because they would they would cover stories on there. They actually did cover Roswell, and um uh and my love of true crime. Yes, yeah when I was a I surprisingly enough, I was a very unusual child. Um so I spent a lot of time in the public library and I would always come back with uh true crime books, and like I s I got hyper fixated on Jack the Ripper to the point that my mother was like, Are you okay? Like You need to go to extra church. Yeah, so but like the the paranormal thing, like I I guess uh Mormonism isn't quite as strict in that regard. Like, like it's so it's okay to like um to like think about the paranormal and that like ghosts aren't necessarily all demonic. Um, like it it could just be your grandma, you know.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

Oof.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Which which look my grannies, the reason I can cook good is because my grannies speak to me in the kitchen and they just let me know. I don't measure anything, I wait for them to tell me.

Guilt, Shame, And Rewiring Desire

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Yeah, no. Uh the the J Dubs, oh my god, like no, you can't you can't you can't think about any of that. All of that is is wrong. I will say, I will say with Unsolved Mysteries, like that music still is like almost Pavlovian. Like when you hear that music, you like you, you're I think like your your spine stiffens a little bit and oh it's eerie as fuck. And then hearing Robert Stack's voice, like you knew that you were in for a good story. Like that was all quiet town just north of Albuquerque.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

Like he's just ready for it.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

Yeah. Oh missed that show.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

And the other one they did what they the like soft reboot they did on Netflix, I thought was really good.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

They did. Yes. I have been really enjoying it. I mean, it's not it's not the same.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

It's not exactly the same. Honestly, what's the name has passed, and I thought the song's still the same. They just there isn't really like a like a narrator or you know, like a like a storyteller, if if you will. They just kind of have it play out like a true crime documentary, and they still have the same thing. Interviews that happen, a little so it's it's a little different, but I think it's just as good. I think they really I think it was a smart choice to kind of go that way, a little bit more like kind of how true crime documentaries happen, because like that's the rage. They know how much people fucking love those things. So they kind of have it going, but they pay just enough homage, like I said. So they it's still called itself mysteries, they still play the song in the beginning, and as they're doing like little titled whatever the hell, and they show like, you know, whatever the hell, like clips of shit from like the episodes, and you know, they're the opening credits, there it is. Uh they do like a very faint of um you guys said his name like 10 times, but the original host of the show.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Robert Stack.

SPEAKER_03 37:46

Robert Stack, they kind of show his they kind of show his face a little bit there. It's really cool. I think they did a really good job with it.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Totally agree. It's really, really good.

SPEAKER_03 37:55

Mm-hmm. Kerrillous on Netflix, you better get on that shit.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

I know. I didn't I had no idea. There's a lot of things on Netflix that I feel like I'm missing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's okay. You can everyone can totally miss the last season of The Witcher. Go on.

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Oh, listen. Listen. That show is that show is dead to me now.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Oh. Hollywood, they acquire these properties that already have like rabid fan bases, and then they're the hubris in Hollywood is such that they go, you know what? We can make this better. You know what? Please don't. As a fan, I like it already. Quit fucking with it, man.

SPEAKER_03 38:37

I know. I think that's what it is. It's not so much that there's like the the stuff it's they think they can make it exactly that. It's them thinking they can make it better. It goes, you why are you making more work for yourself? You already have a fucking script. You already have everything. Just fucking tell the people how to act. Like, do that. Like, why are you gonna do that? Why you do why you do?

Paranormal Curiosity And Forbidden Media

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Oh so there is a streaming service called Passion Flicks, and it is uh uh founded and run by Tosca Musk, and they are doing it right over there. It is completely dedicated to um taking romance books and making them into film, and the scripts are like 85 to 90 percent like book accurate. They they follow it, the lines in it. I've heard the actors say like you you don't ad lib on a Tosca movie because it's not in the script, because it's not in the book, you you don't you don't make up lines, and um they acquired the Black Tiger Brotherhood series, which that actually is involved in my trajectory to finding a Quinn. Um I was in like a terrible mental state um the summer of 2024 because my youngest child had graduated. Uh, she's my only daughter, and she's my daughter. I love her, she's like my everything. And I thought that she, like, because the economy sucks so bad, I thought her and her boyfriend, like, there's no way that that they'll be able to get out on their own very soon. And that's like, so even though she graduated, I was like soothing myself with that thought. Well, um, you never bet against my son-in-law because a month after she graduated, they were out. He had them an apartment. And I was like, she's gone. And so now all my children are grown. And when you've been a stay-at-home mom, and you like this is your life, and like basically my career, I was like, I am out of a job. I have no idea who I am right now. So I like really hit this depression. So I retreated back into my beloved books. And I've been reading the Black Tiger Brotherhood series for 20 years, and there's like over 40 books in the series, and it's just like my favorite thing ever. And I found out that Passion Flicks had acquired the property and that J.R. Ward was finally like like this was happening. Back in the um, back in like the early 2000s when I first started reading these books, I was in her message boards on her websites, and we we would always ask her, like, when are we getting a movie? When are we getting a TV show? And she always said, I've never found the right place to put it. And like this was her fear is that if she turned it over to Hollywood, they would they lose Hollywood, acquires the property, and then they they cut out the creator. Like it's ours now to do with what we want, and you can take your check and go fuck off somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Um and she didn't want that because like this is her, this is her life's work. These are these characters are just as important to her as they are to us. So um I found out that like it was finally gonna be a series, and I started getting more involved in um Instagram and uh Facebook. I know these books and this series backwards and forwards, so people would ask questions and I would be and I would have the answers. You know, on page 273 in book five, this is where he says this. Um, oh, fully, fully. There's a reason we're friends, baby. You can smell it on me.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

But I think that I think for writers, that's so important, you know, um, that I think, yeah, you probably have some writers because of a bad contract or whatever, they get cut out. But I think it's so important for writers for if it's going to be adapted, that it's done the right way. Like, for instance, um, you know, let's take Lord of the Rings, right? Right. Um how how well that was done. You know, they did those, the books correctly, I feel.

Unsolved Mysteries, Nostalgia, And Netflix

SPEAKER_03 43:14

And with with what he cut out and what he added, made all the sense in the world because like he's he's like, I've seen the commentaries and the interviews like a hundred thousand times, just as much as I've watched the actual movies. And people got really pissy when Tom Bombadil was cut from the movies and whatnot. And he was just like, is he an amazing character? Is he a beloved character? Yes, but he goes, but the story we're telling is the ring's journey with Frodo from such and such and so-and-so. Tom Bombadil didn't do anything to that story. He was just kind of like levity. He was fun. He goes, like, he only did stuff that was pertinent to the actual story. You know, and then and then okay, then not only do you have Frodo and destroying the ring, but you know, um, you know, Aragon becoming the king again. So the the Other little stories that went, they all still fed into the main. You see how they always connect back to one another. It doesn't matter everything's happening with Faramir, whatever. Well, everything's happening with Faramir and his bullshit with his family because he met Frodo in there, and that's gonna be him defending Gondor. It all ties back in. Everything. And even with the honestly, the elves at Helm's Deep, that was just added for dramatic effect to make the battle even cooler than it already was in the fucking books. But like he gets a pass because that's arguably some of the greatest cinematography you've ever seen in your fucking life.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Oh, it was gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

One of the best battle sequences you'll ever see in a goddamn movie. So Exactly. Everything was we won't talk about the Hobbit, but he did it right because as long as they can keep like the eye on the prize, like the main goal, like the actual idea. In um I think we've talked about it a couple times beforehand. I think that's why I'm afraid and I don't want them to do an actual Red Dead show.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 45:00

Like I don't want them to try to take Red Dead 2 or Red Dead 1 and turn it into a show or a movie or whatever because you know a lot of stuff is just gonna get cut. And of course, everyone loves the main story, the bulk of it, those characters, but it's there's a lot of the small shit that would get cut. Like, let's face it, even if it is an episode, do you know how idea have you any idea how much of like that whole mission will get cut because it's not important to the story? Or even another one that you know will immediately will absolutely get cut when Josea and Arthur they go to the thing in roads and they just give out all the liquor. It's my boy Fenton and he's pouring a drink, and all you know that whole thing would get cut. But that's just fucking great. So I think it's you just get this thing right, you get the same people who wrote that, just write something different, just make another Western and do that.

SPEAKER_00 45:52

Yeah, I think I think something like that would have to be like you're never gonna make fans happy with a game like that. I'm I I'll tell you, I I'm really nervous. Um, so there's a book series that I'm like obsessed about right now, um, which is I'm trying to get Kyle obsessed with it, um, the Dungeon Crawler Carl series. Um, but Seth McFarland's production company has bought the rights to it. And there's like they're they're going at it in a couple different streams. They're going to be making like an animated series um based on the books, but then they're also working on a live action. These books are so wild, I don't know how they will do a live action. I I have no idea conceptually how they would build this world in in a live action. So it really, I hope that you know Seth McFarlane loves loves these books as much as the fans do, and listened to the writer, listens to Matt Dinnerman, listens to how the audio um books are presented and does them justice. I'm really nervous about it though, because man, Hollywood can really fuck things up.

Adaptations Done Right And Wrong

SPEAKER_01 47:22

Oh yeah. That's where that's where Passion Flicks is getting it right. Um they they actually have the authors on set. Um there there are things because it's a fictional world and it's about uh vampires, and there's this whole other language that she's created. Um they have her on set for pronunciations, for like, hey, we can we can do it this way. Um, how do you how do you think they they would they would interpret this and um and asking asking her as they're filming, uh, which is which is the right way to go. It's her baby. It came from her, like she's the one who sees this in her head. She's um they consulted her on casting, on costuming, makeup. Like she she had the final say on on all of it.

SPEAKER_00 48:18

And God, I hope, I hope that that that happens with Dungeon Crawler Carl, because uh, you know, Carl and Princess Donut need their day in the sun. I would die for Princess Donut. I'm just saying, I would die for Princess Donut, the Queen and Chonk. I would die for that cat.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

It's a fucking fictional cat. She was like, I will literally murder scores of people for this fucking thing. She's hysterical.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

Oh, she's like, she's so she's so well written and so well voice acted that it is it is exactly if a cat could have sentience and talk, it's exactly how a cat would be. A hundred percent. A thousand percent. Kind of cunty, usually plotting someone's death. Yeah, like being kind of she's kind of prissy, but she also like really enjoys going into battle. Like she really enjoys it, and she will use like all of her little magic potions and her uh lasers that she gains uh throughout the the story, and you know, um her little her pet Velociraptor Mongo, she will, you know, use him to cause damage, but she won't use her claws. She doesn't like to get dirty. If she gets muddy or anything, she just you know, like has a has a complete hissy fit. Um, she's very particular on, you know, um how Carl looks because again, this is like um it's a it's a you it's a TV show that like a reality dungeon show that is shown to the whole of the universe. So she's when they go on like talk shows and stuff, she's very particular about all this stuff, but man, she really likes to fuck up some trolls. She's she's she's bloodthirsty and she's so like she's so um she's so like sarcastic and she will she will not think twice about like throwing out some insults to people. One of my favorites is so okay, I'm gonna go on a little rant here. Um so they have like a like a player status bar that only they can see, and so they're able to, with their mind, like have chat functions back and forth. So when they first gain this this ability, Princess Donut is like typing in all caps all the time. We know what all caps means, right? You're yelling, right? She won't stop doing it, she will not stop, she will not stop. Um, and this one guy is his name is Rassonde, and he's like, Um, can anyone tell this cat to stop talking stop type typing in all caps? And she's like, Why didn't your mother stomp you back on the truck stop bathroom floor, Rassonde? Oh geez, that's amazing. I it's just oh my god, she's just so snarky, and I love it. She's she's written absolutely in the font of a cat.

unknown 51:57

I love it.

Passionflix, Fidelity, And Author Power

SPEAKER_00 51:58

But yeah, there's there's so many, there's so many good characters. One of my there's like there's a there's um a goat who kind of uh gets into a same similar, he comes down with his owner into the dungeon. Um, he gets the potion to gain sentience. Um his name is Prepotente. What's the girl? But he's he's a screaming goat, and he's very emotional. He's very emotional. He he also has like this aristocratic like English um accent, but then like he'll get all emotional and he'll just scream like right right in Carl's face. And um, yeah, it's just there's so many good characters. There's a they meet up with um, there's a a deity, and she's like a minor deity, and she lost her physical form, and somehow like her spirit or essence ended up in a severed sex doll's head, and her name is Samantha, and she is quite literally one of my favorite, she is so freaking funny, but she she's she's a deity that's this deity that rolls around um in in this rubber head, and it's so she's so freaking funny, and she's always like, Don't make me mad or I'll kill your mother. But she has like this Russian accent, it's so it's so great. It's so great.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

The fucking the TikTok you sent me the other day of like the uh the dungeon crawler Carl, but um, you know, it seems for booklet 9-9. Yeah is just hysterical. Fucking hysterical. The one with the ones of Princess Donut was so funny. Um when Holt's watching the uh the dog show. Yeah, you know what that's code for. Bitch.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

He is the fucking best exactly. So I I've made Kyle listen, um, so the the voice actor, um, Jeff Hayes, he's phenomenal. He does like, I want to say at this point in book seven, he's gotta be upwards of 20, 30 different voices that he's doing for this whole book series. It's it's wild, his talent. And so, but he was able to take the books and he, I think, I don't know if he owns it, part owner or something. Um, but it's Sound Booth Theater, and they take a lot of um different book series, and they'll voice act, but they will also put in like special effects noises, um, background um music. It it plays more not like an audiobook, but like kind of like a movie that you're listening to.

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Um even just the very literally the first like fucking like well like ten minutes of the very first episode. You hear like the joysticks clicking around and like the the whatever of the game in the background. When he goes outside, the the very faint like whirling of the wind, and you literally hear the snow, like the crystals of like the snow falling and shit like that. Like it's insanely subtle, but it just it develops so much like that's just the first 10 minutes, and the amount of detail alone that you get that isn't just his voice is insane.

SPEAKER_01 55:37

I love a cinematic audio like that.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

There's um Kylie you have you have to I yeah editors out there. You have to listen, you have to get on the dungeon crawler Carl. In fact, there are like I've I've seen like a lot of TikToks where women where is it? Um it's on Audible.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

And but but you can go to soundbooth theater.com and I think like the first episode, which is I want to say like a couple hours, um, you can listen to for free just to kind of get you get you hooked, you know, and get you introduced to the series. They offer the first episode for free. Um, but I I've actually seen a lot of um TikToks, uh, women who have been like they read the spicy romance kind of books, and like every now and then they'll be like, you know, we we need a palette cleanser every now and then, so like we'll read something out of that genre, but then they're like, I thought I was getting into just a palette cleanser, but now I'm totally obsessed and I can't get back into my romance novels because this series is so phenomenal. It really, it really is.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Oh, well, I will check that out. Okay, so you guys talking about voices made me think of something, and I have a question for you, Kyle. So my Audible library um is huge because I've it's like 15 years old, and like 90, 95% of my books are male narrators, and I I just gravitate more towards the male voice, and um I'm kind of like that with music too. I I prefer male singers. So my question is, are you guys like really particular? Like, I'm straight up snobbish at this point about my narrators.

SPEAKER_00 57:42

Oh, oh, a hundred percent. I I will ding ding ding. Yes, yes.

Dungeon Crawler Carl: World, Voices, And Style

SPEAKER_01 57:47

For me to have a female narrator, it has to be either an exceptional story that I I I want to read, like the the book has to be exceptional so that I can like get get over the the female voice, or she has to be an exceptional, like female voice. And there there are some on Quinn that are truly remarkable.

SPEAKER_00 58:11

Um, Alice is one that I I love her voice, hers is really great, and so is if I tune into an audiobook and the narrators sound like they could work at NPR, I'm clicking out of that. No way, no. I need my narrators to be actually acting, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 58:34

Like, yeah, what if Bobcat was narrating?

SPEAKER_00 58:37

Oh well, you know what?

SPEAKER_01 58:40

Did you just say Bobcat? Yes, as in um Goldweight?

SPEAKER_00 58:46

So what he did is put his but his I can't even finish it. Are you talking are we talking about the comedian and goldweight? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

Oh my god. I used to do portions of him when I was little. I loved him. I absolutely loved him. And my my family would always like be like, Kylie, do bobcat. Do bobcat.

SPEAKER_00 59:14

Do it, do it, do it. I don't think I can do it anymore. Oh god. It is, it is, it has become one of the most simplest joys in life is having Kyle just burst out into Bobcat Gold Lake in an episode. Amazing.

SPEAKER_03 59:31

The very first one was the best one, though.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

Oh god.

SPEAKER_03 59:35

Because I actually I think it was the very first time I've ever done an impression in my swear to God.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

Yeah, we were talking about how it's made.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Yeah, we were talking, we were talking about narrators and things like that when it's two voices. So I was like, can you it goes? It only works with like that guy's voice is one thing. People talking about narrators this and narrators that because like because you can't have a voice for like I was like, and I said it goes, because I never remembered his name. I literally just learned his name because of that episode and all that. Um and I was just and I was just like, you know the guy's like, you know the guy from Police Academy? And you knew it, you fucking knew exactly who I was talking about. Yeah, because everyone knows it goes the guy with the fucking voice. In what movie? Police Academy. Everybody, not the guy with the noises, the guy with the voice.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:18

The voice, yes. He did another one um called One Crazy Summer. Oh my god! Uh oh, John Cusack.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:29

What a flashback memory.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

I loved that movie. I think that's the one where he he did the bit like we're from the planet of the toes. And we bring you produce. I I think that's where that bit came from. Oh, that was a that was a great movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

Like young John, young Debbie. God, I haven't thought about that movie in forever. And as soon as she said that, like, wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:00

Diamond in the rough, a forgotten gem of time.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Yeah, and he did he did that that one Mr. Ed kind of movie called Ted with the talking horse.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:10

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:11

I told you, I was like, I loved him as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:15

Oh god, yeah. One of these days, I need to go back through all the audio and just do a compilation of Kyle's Bobcat Goldthwaite bursts. Oh man, this has been a blast. Thank you so much, Kylie, for coming into our little corner of the world and being a silly goose with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:36

Thank you for inviting me. It um was an honor and a surprise. I I hope I hope I did it justice.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:47

Just ride, just set them up and let it ride.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:50

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we've been wanting to do this for a long time, though. We've been talking about it. So thank you for like I know it was spur of the moment on the fly. Um, but yeah, this has been great.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Um I had I had a blast. We we need to do more of these calls. Just um, I don't I don't know. Should we always record it? Because I got a feeling.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:12

Nope, we shouldn't. Nope. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. We have evidence in the paper channel. There can be. Uh it's better. Let's just, let's just nah.

unknown 1:02:22

Nah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:25

Oh, well, thank you all so much for listening to this episode. Um, like, follow, share. The best thing, as always, you can do for us is to tell your friends about us. If if you enjoy us, leave us comments on our socials. Um, we tend to be more active on Instagram, so head over to Instagram. Um, we're working on a lot of great topics um coming up. We're working on a lot of things, um, maybe some merch at some point this year. Um, so yeah, the gooses are cooking. Hell yeah. I'm looking forward to that merch. Maybe that's a t-shirt. My goose is cooked.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:08

I think, yeah, either it's a toss up between my goose is cooked or that'll do slut.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:13

Yes. All right. Bye. Bye.