Ep. 76-Pendle Hill: England’s Biggest Witch Trial

A feud between village healers. A peddler who collapses after a muttered curse. A courtroom that believes a child above all. We travel to 1612 Lancashire to unravel how the Pendle witch trials turned folk remedies into felonies and neighbors into enemies. With King James I stoking fear through demonology and law, simple acts like asking for pins or sharing a Good Friday meal at Malkin Tower became “proof” of a pact with the devil. Our conversation follows Old Demdike and Old Chattox, their families, and the Device siblings—Alizon, James, and nine-year-old Jennet—whose words echoed louder than any adult defense.

We walk through the bleak reality of Lancaster Castle, where months in dark cells softened resolve and sharpened confessions, and analyze Thomas Potts’s sensational chronicle that cemented familiars like Tib and Ball in cultural memory. Along the way, we examine the social pressures that made witchcraft a convenient scapegoat: poverty, isolation, Catholic-Protestant tension, and a justice system primed to reward accusation over evidence. Alice Nutter’s presence—respected, silent, condemned—shows how hysteria ignores class lines when fear needs a face.

What lingers is less sorcery than structure: how rumor hardens into record, how authority amplifies anxiety, and how communities trade uncertainty for clean villains. We connect those patterns to modern moral panics, the magnetism of simple narratives, and the cost of letting outrage outrun proof. If you care about history, true crime, or the psychology of crowds, this story of Pendle Hill will stick with you long after the gallows fade from view.

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Sources:

Project Gutenberg: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/18253 — The Wonderfull Discoverie of Witches in the Countie of Lancaster.

Lancashire Archives: https://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries-and-archives/ — Local records on the 1612 witch trials.

Historic England: https://historicengland.org.uk — Context on Pendle Hill and Lancaster Castle.

Transcript

Setting The Scene In Lancashire

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Four centuries ago, in a lonely corner of Lancashire, fear would erupt into one of the most infamous witch trials in British history. This is Hold My Sweet Tea.

SPEAKER_00 0:52

And the weather outside is not frightful. It's not. It's been lovely. It is definitely delightful. And it's not Christmas. Nope. Nope. It is not even Halloween yet. Nope. But we're getting close. I didn't turn the air on in my car yesterday. Me either. It was so nice. I drove here without it.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

And if you drove home without it. Live in the south, you know what we're talking about because we don't get many of those mornings where you wake up and you're like, oh my God, it feels so good outside. It's usually you walk outside and you're like, heh.

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I know I've gotten in my garage and went, What is this place? Right. What's this? What's this?

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The Jack Skellington comes out in you. Yeah. Start singing. Speaking of which. Right. I I know. I love your shirt. You can't sit with us.

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And it's got Jack Skellington. Yep. Beetlejuice. And Edward Scissor Hand. I know. On a cap. Max Max. You can't sit with us!

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Yes. On Wednesdays we wear orange now.

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This guy actually looks like Johnny Depp a bit. He does. The Beetlejuice guy doesn't really so much. Oh, he's got more. He's like a more trendy Beetlejuice. Yeah. In his purpley pink suit. Yeah. I mean Jack. Jack looks like Jack. Yeah. It's hard not to get that one right.

SPEAKER_01 2:14

We are we're wearing all of the how I have my kitty cat earrings on and my Salem shirt on today. Yeah. Salem, Massachusetts shirt. So we're definitely in the the spirit. The spirit of the spiritual month of Halloween. And this will be my last episode for spooky season. Even though spooky season goes on for like forever. It goes on and on and on. This will be the finale. So of course I had to do it on a witch. There you go. Or witches. Or witches. But we're gonna travel across the pond today. Woohoo! Pond jummin. Yay! We are going to England. Hey. Hello. Oh, England. Hello. Can I get a bottle of water? No. I'm friendly this morning.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

So I'll try not to slip into the practicing my boundaries, y'all. That's right. Every time somebody asks me for something, the first thing I say automatically is no. No. It just makes it so much easier when I mean it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

No. I know. Like one of our employees will be like, hey, can I bar? No. And they're like, they just look at me and I'm like, I'm kidding. I'm like completely kidding. But yeah, go for it. It's your break. I don't care.

unknown 3:40

Right.

Hosts Set Spooky Season Vibe

SPEAKER_01 3:41

All right. So let's get into it. So we're gonna go, like I said, to England. This is gonna be more of a like storytelling episode. So it was the spring of 1612 when whispers of witchcraft began to rise from the cottages scattered around Pendle Hill. A brooding slope that seemed to brood over the villages below. Before the year was out, twelve people would stand accused of sorcery. Ten would hang, and the story of their downfall would echo through England for generations. So this is the witches of Pendle Hill. It's a story of suspicion because everybody's like, ooh, they're acting a little weird, but maybe they're a witch into sorcery. And of course, it affected the poor in poverty and people who were very superstitious. And you know, between faith and fear, it was like everybody was a suspect, pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Were these land-owning women who had no male probably family men in their lives for that matter in general? Right. She's a witch, she owns property. Isn't that right?

SPEAKER_01 5:15

She must be women on her own property. She's living on her own without a man. How does she do it? She's a witch. Exactly. So in the early 17th century, England was a country in transition. King James I had taken the throne in 1603, bringing with him a deep personal obsession with witchcraft. He had written a book on the subject, Demonology, declaring witches to be quote unquote, the servants of the devil, and urging that none shall live. His fear of dark forces wasn't abstract. James had survived storms at sea, he believed were raised by witches trying to kill him. When he came to power, that fear became law. Witchcraft was a capital crime, punishable by death. Lancashire was viewed as one of England's wildest countries, isolated, poor, and steeped in superstition. People there lived hard lives on the edge of survival. So they were they were barely surviving. So they did what they could because they couldn't afford any luxuries. They barely could afford food to feed their children. I feel so targeted. Yeah, I know. Same. I'm like, I need groceries this week. I guess we're just kidding. Many were Catholic, um, you know, quietly resting in the Protestant crown, which only deepened official suspicion that this religion was prone to ungodly practices, which we all know that Catholics are witches.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

You know, that is the rumor.

King James And Witchcraft Obsession

SPEAKER_01 7:14

That is the rumor. I mean, it goes hand in hand, rituals, all the although I will say the most hilarious thing I've seen as of late, a Catholic church urging people to boycott the 13th Gate seance experience.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

I did see that straight theater. I did see that, and I left.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

And I was like, okay. You just made more people go to the 13th Gate things. You did. Because I want to go see it. So in 1612, the local magistrate Roger Nowell was charged with rooting out such crimes. He could hardly have imagined that a quarrel between poor families would spark the largest witch trial England had ever seen. Pendle Hill itself was and still is a striking landmark. Like I said, it like kind of broods over the whole town. It's very very noticeable. Spookalicious. Spookalicious. Its slopes rise abruptly from the moors, wrapped in rolling fog, and peat bogs that swallow sound of footsteps.

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Swallows more than that, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

And we know those peat bogs because those peat bogs will preserve a body and turn you into a ginger because it colors the hair, and they've had the bog bodies there like perfectly preserved in there. Crazy. It's nuts. To villagers, it was a place of mystery, tales of spirits and cunning folk, wise women who healed or cursed, were woven into daily life. Healing charms, protective herbs, and whispered blessings were part of survival. I mean, it's just something that they grew up believing, just like the Appalachian folk and their folk magic. It was, and that a lot of that came from this. It was just in their everyday lives, right? Growing up. But in 1612, these small acts of folk magic would be recast of evidence of communication with the devil. The world's first medicine. Obviously. Witchcraft. Witchcraft. Right. The story begins with two families, the Demdikes and the Chaddocks, both led by elderly matriarchs, known locally as healers, charmers, and sometimes witches. Old Elizabeth Southerns, called Old Demdike, was said to have practiced magic for half a century. Her rival, Anne Whittle, known as Old Chaddocks, had long competed for the same small circle of clients. So they were they were battling it out over who could make the best tintures and potions and healing and things like that.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

Competing medical practices.

Folk Magic And Life Under Pendle

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Exactly. But they were they were bitter at each other about it. Sounds like every modern-day pharmaceutical company. There you go. They're witches. They are. Each accused each other of cursing cattle, spoiling milk, and bewitching children.

SPEAKER_00 10:41

So they're like feeding this negative witch connotation.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Just a, you know, a couple of catty women like battling it out over like who's who's better. Whose healing is better, whose herbs are better, or something like that. So for years their rival rivalry simmered quietly. But when one fateful argument turned public, it drew the attention of the law.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Uh-oh.

Demdikes Vs Chaddocks Rivalry

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah. The spark came in March of 1612 when Alzon Device, Dimdike's granddaughter, encountered a peddler named John Law. She asked him for some pins, which was a common trade good back then, often used for healing charms and things like that. When John Law refused, Alizon muttered a curse under her breath. Moments later, the man collapsed, seized by what Witness calls a fit. So this he had a seizure. That's what I'm thinking. He just like had a seizure or something. Well, this made Alzon like terrified and guilt stricken. She thought that she had bewitched him. So her words spoken in fear set in motion a chain of like accusations that would lead straight to the gallows. When magistrate Roger Roger Noel questioned Alzon, she not only admitted to witchcraft, but implicated her grandmother, old Demdike, and their rivals, the Chaddoxes. And I Googled that name, and I'm just hoping that I still say it right. It's Chaddoxes. According to the official record, quote, she saith her grandmother hath a spirit called Tib, which at her command would assume shapes. So like a familiar, I guess. Alzon told the magistrate that Tib appeared as a black cat or dog and would do Dimdike's bidding. So this is where the whole witch's familiar probably comes in. Yeah, like form and things like that. When Noel turned to old Chaddocks, the rival matriarch gave as good as she got, claiming that Demdike had once blinded a man and laid waste to his kin. Oh, so she's trying to help the girl. Yeah, she's like egging it on, like, yeah, she did that, she did that, you know. Yeah, her grandma's a witch for a whale. I don't like her. She steals my clients. Right. By April of 1612, what began as a family quarrel had grown into a community crisis. Rumors spread that witches' meeting had taken place at the Mollican Tower, the Dimdike's crumbling stone cottage on the side of Pendle Hill. Locals claimed that the gathering was meant to free those already imprisoned and to plot more debts. So they were trying to do some damage control. So they were saying, oh, they gathered to do all this stuff. So they wouldn't get in trouble. So Noel acted swiftly, ordering the rest of everyone said to have attended. So if you were at that gathering, you were getting arrested. It was said that the meeting was held on Good Friday, a day meant for prayer and fasting, while the accused feasted on stolen mutton. When constables arrived, they arrested the entire Demdike clan. Several of their friends had even, and even a few had merely been mentioned in gossip. Like they they all got arrested too. All of them. They took everybody. Didn't they even have a place for all these people? I don't know. I'm like, did they probably some dank dirty cellar and they just threw them all in there, you know? Locked them in. Yeah. And here's a bucket. Right. See you later. But I'm gonna tell you though. So among them were James Device, which was Alzon's brother, her mother, Elizabeth DeVice, and Jennet, not Janet, Janet Device, a girl of only nine years old. Yeah. So the prisoners were taken to Lancaster Castle, a dark stone fortress that would be later become their final home. Inside its cold, damp cells, the accused waited for months, chained and starving until the traveling court came to town in August. So you didn't get a trial right away. You had to wait until the traveling court traveled to your area once they were finished. So you were you were screwed either way. So Lancaster Castle loomed above the River Loon. Loomed above the River Loon. Its gray walls had centuries of trials and executions. I think of like the handmaiden's tale with the wall when they were just like hanging there and stuff, you know. Yeah. In 1612, its dungeons were dark and airless, the stench of rot and human misery. Like you could only imagine the smell, and I'm sure they didn't clean up after they used the bathroom or anything like that. But I'm sure they didn't use the bathroom a lot because they weren't fed, they were starving. Right. But um the accused witches, old women, young men, and even children were kept there through the long spring and summer. Oof.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

Gross.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Yeah, nasty. Until their cases were prepared and the traveling court got to them.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

So I hope they got to wash up.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

I don't know. I can only see like them bringing them in all like stanky and dirty. Yeah. Like, maybe that's why they dipped them in the river, you know, when they were the chair in the river. And they were like, Are you a witch? They were like, let's just wash them off. But you know, personal hygiene was not a thing back then.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

The official record of the Pendle Witch trials comes from a clerk named Thomas Potts, whose book, The Wonderful Discovery of Witches in the County of Lancaster, would later later immortalize the case. Though biased and sensational, his account provides the words that echoed in the courtroom more than 400 years ago. Among prisoners was old Demdike, nearly 80 years old. That's pretty good for back then. You're 80 years old back then.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

That's a huge accomplishment, girl. Good.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

Not being clean, living in squalor, disease. Girl, she was the medicine. She was taking her own medicine.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yes, she was. I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

She by then she was blind and frail. I bet she was. She probably had pink eye from all the feces.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Right. That's why she couldn't see. They were they were all blind by the end of that. Right.

The Curse Of John Law

SPEAKER_01 18:38

She was blind. So she was she had been known as the cunning woman. Well, yeah, she couldn't see. So there you go. Known for charms to cure the sick or protect cattle. Her rival, old Chaddocks, was much the same. Yet once accused, there was little chance of mercy. In the mind of the 17th century England, a witch was not only a criminal, she was an enemy of God. Unless she was Catholic. Right. Because they're all witches, like we said. So Demdike ended up dying in her cell before the trial began. The others would not be so fortunate. So on August 18th, 1612, the presiding judges were Sir James Altham and Sir Edward Bromley, both loyal to King James and his determination to root out witchcraft. So they stood no chance whatsoever. As the accused were brought before them, the courtroom filled with townspeople, merchants, clergy. The farmers were eager, eager to see justice served, you know, because it was these witches were affecting their crops and their cattle, of course.

SPEAKER_00 20:01

Until they're gone. And they're still the same damn problems. And worse, because now you don't even have anybody to blame. Or to to make meds or anything else for you.

SPEAKER_01 20:11

But they're going to root out other people, I'm sure. Or simply just witnesses to see the spectacle because they want they were curious and nosy and they didn't have the internet and they didn't have anything better to do. So there we go. Among these witnesses was Jennet DeVice, just nine years old. She was the daughter, like I said, of the accused Elizabeth Device and the younger sister of Alzon and James. When called to testify, she was set upon a table so the judges could see and hear her clearly. Her testimony would seal the fate of her family. A nine-year-old. According to Potts, Jennet spoke with marvelous, like she just her words just float. She was very smart for her age, so she had like this.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

Well, no, her butt should have known.

Arrests And Malkin Tower Rumors

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Right. So she told the court that her mother, brother, and grandmother kept familiars, spirits in the shape of animals that obeyed her come their commands. She claimed she had seen her mother's familiar, a black dog named Ball, and had heard her speaking to it. When Jennet pointed to her mother and declared her a witch, Elizabeth Device cried out most pitifully, cursing and weeping, but the court silenced her. Jennet's small, trembling voice carried immense weight. In an age where a child's words could damn an adult, her testimony became unshakable proof. The prosecution then turned to the so-called meeting at the Malkin Tower. Janet said that her brother James had stolen a sheep to provide food for the gathering. Witnesses claimed that 20 witches had met to plot the release of those already in prison, according to the record. They intended to blow up the castle with powder and to make away with like all the prisoners and stuff. So my thing is like, was this just a plot to let people go? Because how would a nine-year-old make something like this up?

SPEAKER_00 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

So maybe they were just plotting, but doesn't mean they were.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

That doesn't make them a witch that they were trying to jailbreak people.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Right. And it was people in their like little community area that they were trying to get out, family and friends and things. So whether such a plan existed is uncertain. But in that courtroom, rumor became evidence. The accused were questioned about their familiars with their spirit names of Tib, Ball, Fancy, and Dandy. I was like, those are so cute. They're pets. They're pets. Anne Whittle, old Chedix, was said to have confessed to selling her soul to a thing like a Christian man who promised her revenge against her enemies. She didn't say a Christian man to a thing like a Christian man. So, you know, was it a devil? Was it something that's happening right there? Look like a man, but a Christian man? Well, I mean, Satan is a fallen angel. Right? So Elizabeth Device allegedly admitted that her familiar ball had killed three people on her behalf. Oh, blame it on the familiar. Your dog did not kill anybody. And James, maybe probably because it was starving. Probably. It was like, I'm hungry. And James Device, perhaps broken by fear and hunger, confessed to killing three persons by witchcraft. He was like, just kill me now. I'm starving. Just like go ahead and get it over with.

SPEAKER_00 24:18

You're gonna do it anyway. Might as well just feed it.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

No matter what I say, we're not gonna drag this out. I did it. Right. Let's go. Each confession, often extracted under pressure, was used to confirm the others. So it was just one right after the other. To the judges, it was proof that witchcraft had indeed taken root in Lancashire. By the end of the trials, 10 people were contempt to death. Condemned to death, sorry. Contempt. Contempt to death. Right.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

Yeah, it is contempt.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

So these people were Elizabeth Device, James Alzon Device, Anne Whittle, which was old Chaddock.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

So I'm trying to keep track of these names.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Um, Anne Redburn, Alice Nutter, Catherine Hewitt, John and Jane Bullcock, and Isabel Robbie of Wendell. I know we have all of these like crazy names in here. There's we're just trying to keep our composure over here and not be not be funny. Pearls over there hiding her face. Okay. One old Demdike had already died in prison. Another Jennet Preston had tried separately in Yorkshire and also, yes, executed. So there were others that, you know, had died previous to the ones that were killed.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

Elsewhere.

Lancaster Castle And Waiting Doom

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Right. Even. Okay. Um, Alice Nutter, though, she her inclusion stood out. She was a woman of some standing from a respectable Catholic family. So she wasn't living in like the poor section in squalor. Her silence throughout the trial remains one of its mysteries. Some say she refused to speak to avoid implicating her, like her family and her kin because she didn't want to say anything. Right. Um, others believed her quiet dignity suggested innocence. So it's like, I'm not gonna implicate myself. But silence in 1612 was not safety. On August 20th, 1612, the condemned were taken from Lancaster Castle to the nearby moor, where beneath a wide northern sky the gallows awaited. We know little of their final moments. There were like no prayers, no pleas, like survives in the records, like nothing. They were just there to execute them. There was no ceremonious stuff. They took them there. Like, get your butt up there, boom, that was it. So news of the pendle trials spread quickly throughout England. When King to King James, it was proof that his laws were working. Like he got uh, oh, you know, I I wrote this demonology and I know there's witches out there, and my laws are working. It's it's proof. So he thought, you know, witchcraft could be discovered and destroyed throughout through like villigence and faith and stuff like that. He he was all there for it. To others, it was a warning. No one, no matter how poor or obscure, was beyond its suspicion. Like this all you know happened and then it came over to the United States, and then it grew over here as well, and witch trials.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

Airware.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yeah, airware. All the witch trials. Yep. And then, you know, the judges they did question whether a child's words could carry such power.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

I mean, kids be telling some stories sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

And I I've watched, you know, police and stuff, like they'll talk to children, and it's the way that they they'll ask them, like, um, you know, what is your name? And they'll say it, and they're like, Well, is your name this? Is that a tr is that true? Is that the truth or a lie? And they're like, Oh no, that's a lie. So they'll get them to say stuff. So they're like, I need you to tell me all the truth. So they talk to them in a way, and then they ask children things, and children more than likely will tell you the truth if you ask them in a certain way.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

So well, I feel like they all have a little bit of truth mixed in the stories they tell too. Right.

Courtroom Spectacle And Child Testimony

SPEAKER_01 29:00

And you just gotta figure it out, even if they've been conditioned by their parents to lie, because there are a lot of cases like that, because they're like, no, you have to tell them this, you have to tell them that. And they put it in their head so much that they believe it, right? They still have ways, like therapists still have ways of getting it out. So but today, Pendle Hill rises green and quiet over Lancashire. Sheep, they graze where the gallows once stood. The village of um Barley, New Church, and roughly are peaceful, their stone cottages standing, but like much as they did four centuries ago, which is why that area, like a lot of those areas are so beautiful because all of those like stone houses and things are still there. If anybody wants to adopt Pearl and I over in England. We would greatly like we would we'll come over. I'm down. We're ready. In the new church churchyard, the weather gravestones bears a carved eye. Some say the eye of God, watching to keep the witches from rising again. I would also like to go see that.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, that would be really cool. I also just want to interject that I am not making fun of the Catholic religion. I do not want to offend anyone. It's just the rumor that has traveled the world saying that there are witches, I think is hilarious. So I have to keep repeating it.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

And it comes from the the rituals and the things that Catholics do. And it's, you know, unlike Christianity, that if you go back, back, back to paganism, like it's all derived from paganism. And they just like kind of took it and twisted it their own way and then condemn the pagans. And they're like, oh, they're devil worshippers. You literally took this from that and this from that. Your holidays literally come from paganism. But we're not gonna get into all that either. But I'm just saying, don't shun somebody because of how what they believe.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

And I wasn't like, like I just want to make sure that it was clarified that I'm not being an offensive person. I'm just joking because I think it's funny that they that they always say that always say that. Like everywhere you turn, I see this, and I'm just like, oh that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

So others say that the you know, the eye of God or the eye that is carved on their their tombstones is there to remind the living that fear can be as dangerous as any spell. In the words of the court clerk Thomas Potts, written after the executions, he said, Let the example of these witches be a warning to all that shall hereafter attempt the like wickedness. Dun dun dun. Dun dun dun. Perhaps a true warning that it's not against witchcraft at all, but against the power of fear when it takes the shape of justice. Absolutely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

So you I've never human nature to fear what we can't understand.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

And I like you go online and you see people that are, you know, especially on TikTok. I'm gonna call out TikTok, witch talk. There's people on there and they will be right Christians and they will say all this stuff and blah blah blah blah blah. Why are you hating? You're no better than the other person from whatever religion hating on you. I would never hate on anybody's religion. You do you, boo, I'm gonna do me, and we're all gonna live in a happy coexisting little family here.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

Yeah, it's so weird that everything I do has no effect on your life, yet that's all you worry about. Exactly. Like that, why does that live in in your mind?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

Yeah, you don't need to prove anything.

SPEAKER_00 33:27

I'm telling you right now, ain't none of that taking up space in my head. Nope, mine either. You do not get to live in my head rent-free. Nope. You you have to pay for me to think about it.

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But you you know what lives in my head rent-free?

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What?

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Our theme music. Yeah. By Patty Salzetta.

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Absolutely. Yeah, that that lives in my mind for sure.

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Or like we'll finish a podcast after we go bye. And like we stop the recording, we go chh, brm, brm, brm, brm. Yep. Like we we just we're so silly.

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Camp Crystal Lake today. Running team.

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It's like, God, quit taking me to Facebook. I don't want to see everybody and their mama talking about you. Yeah. Because I don't believe what people say most of the time anyway. I gotta go form my own opinion. Exactly. So because my taste buds are my taste buds. Exactly. And and the bad service you had the other day could have been your waitress. Your waitress had cramps, or you were just an asshole. You were just an asshole to your waitress. So I'm gonna go find out by myself. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

I've had that happen. I'm like, what is wrong with you? I'm just trying to get you your feet.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

You know, something something I did as a kind of New Year's resolution type thing one year was every single place I visited, I reviewed on Google because no one, like it's hard to get good reviews the minute something doesn't go your way. Like someone breathed on me in that store. Oh my God, let me go write a bad review. Yep. Like literally. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

People are quick to write bad reviews.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

So I spent a year writing nothing but good ones for people. And that was my that was my thing. I was like, I'm gonna spread some goodness. Absolutely. So, y'all spread some goodness. Quit being a punk, right? Go go review somebody because it was great for a change.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Especially if it's somebody in your family or friends. Why are you not like hyping your bestie up? Like, why are you not supporting their business? I'm gonna get on a tangent here. So like you could go on our stuff and support ours podcast and like leave us a good review. That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Yeah, for sure. Yep. Like, and the next place you eat. I ain't talking about McDonald's, they don't need help. I'm talking about the local business small businesses that you guys frequent all the time. Say something nice. Yep. Be kind. Rewind. Be kind again.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

You can also message us on social media platforms. We are on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. Yes. Special YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Go over there and follow us. Yes. And hit the notification bell. You know, let me do all that stuff too. Cause that way you'll get notified when a new episode comes out. Ooh, twice a week. We're like we're we're running to almost 100. Like we're getting so close to having a hundred episodes. And we're super close to 5,000 downloads. And like we're still begging people to keep on reach out to us.

SPEAKER_00 38:56

Yeah. Yeah. All these listeners, no talkers. That's right. I guess that's why we do all the talking. Maybe so.

Executions And Aftermath

SPEAKER_01 39:03

But we still want to hear from people because it's going to be so awesome. So, as always, hold my sweet tea is a drunken bee production. And you remember, guys, remember to stay safe out there. If you're practicing witchcraft, you know, keep it on the down low so nobody gets you unless you want to come out of the broom closet. And just because we're dipping doesn't mean you can't keep zipping. Bye.