Hold My Sweet Tea

Ep. 126-Can Evil Be Born? The Case Of Paris Bennett

Pearl & Holly Season 1 Episode 126

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**Correction: In the episode, I made a statement that Paris Bennett is now in his mid twenties. I meant to say mid thirties. 

Paris Bennett's first parole eligibility date is February 2027. He was sentenced to 40 years in prison in 2007, with the possibility of parole after serving 20 years, which makes February 2027 his first opportunity to be considered for release.

If he is never granted parole, his sentence would end in February 2047, when he would be approximately 53 years old. 

Now for the Episode Description:

A 13-year-old boy. A 4-year-old girl. One choice that feels so deliberate it rewires how you think about “kids will be kids.” We’re talking about Paris Bennett, a teenager described as gifted, polite, and charming, who murdered his little sister Ella not in a sudden burst of rage, but as a strategy to emotionally destroy their mother, Charity Lee.

We walk through the timeline of the night of February 4, 2007, including how Paris manipulates the babysitter into leaving, what investigators believe happened after Ella fell asleep, and why the 911 call still chills people who study true crime, psychology, and criminal behavior. Then we dig into the harder layer: motive. Paris later admits the point wasn’t really Ella, it was punishment, jealousy, and control. That forces uncomfortable questions about empathy, emotional detachment, and what “remorse” even means when someone can describe violence with an almost academic calm.

From there, we look at the juvenile justice reality under Texas law: no death penalty, no life without parole, and a sentence that creates a real parole eligibility window. We also talk about the Piers Morgan interview, the “wolf inside” comment, and why even Charity, who still loves her son, says she fears for her life and her other child’s safety if he’s released.

Listen, then tell us where you land: can a child with psychopathic traits be rehabilitated, or is public safety the only answer? If this conversation hits you, subscribe, share the episode, and leave us a review so more listeners can join the debate.

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Cold Open And Host Banter

SPEAKER_02

There are some true crime cases that make you angry, some make you sad. And then there are the cases that leave you staring at the wall afterward, wondering if you really understand human nature at all. Today's case is one of those, and this is Hold My Sweet Tea!

SPEAKER_01

Hello. Hello, beautiful people. I'm Holly. Devil horns, I'm Pearl. You're the devil to my angel. And then vice versa sometimes. Yeah. We we trade off. That's right. Good cop, bad cop. Just just back and forth.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever's necessary in the moment. Yeah. I do not sit on shoulders though, because I'm a little too heavy for that. Yeah. Not trying to injure anyone. But I do be trying to influence people.

SPEAKER_02

They'll be like, what do you think of this? I'm like, do it. Do it. All right. Or don't do that. Oh my god. Very rarely. I'm like, do it. I am the devil. See, mama said you're the devil. Vicky Valencourt. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So alligators are mad because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

SPEAKER_01

No toothbrush. That's right. That that movie will always like just be a really good, like, you just need a feel-good movie. Go watch The Water Boy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You can do it. All night long.

SPEAKER_02

There's so many good quotes from like literally all of Adam Sandler's movies. We're gonna get an Adam Sandler tangent here, but like, yeah, like I don't even think there might be like one or two movies that he's made that are like eh, but like they're just pure gold. And I remember watching him on MTV the show Remote Control when he was like a teenager, literally.

SPEAKER_03

Crazy.

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And he would run out and do stupid crazy things and then go back to the back.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. He's like idiot funny. Yeah. But not an idiot. So that's that's fun. Um I remember when you got called Polly that time, and then I started calling you Polly, and then I started calling you Polychronopoulos.

SPEAKER_02

Polychronopoulos. It's one of my nicknames. Not Steve. No, Steve Polychronopoulos. Just Polychronopoulos. Right. Yeah, and now his daughters are in movies, and his oldest daughter, like, she's really good. I've watched her in a few movies, and you know, people are like, It's a Nepo baby. Well, she's a really good actress, like she's done well.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I feel like, I mean, isn't Hollywood full of that?

SPEAKER_02

Yes, Hollywood is full of Nepo babies.

SPEAKER_03

Way back in the day. Yeah. Let's be real here. Emilio! Yes, uh Charlie Sheen, Martin Sheen. Like, there's so many kids that got into acting because their parents do it.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And some of them don't deserve to be there or in music, and some of them absolutely do because they're super talented. Right. So So quit being so judgy. Right. Judge them on their talent, not their parents.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Or their parents' talents.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Or their parents' talents, not their parents' money. Exactly. Yeah.

Remorse And Second Chances

SPEAKER_02

So we are going to do a case about a child. And you're like, a kid? Is this a child victim? Well, one of them is. But one of them is the actual doer. Criminal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So this is like child-on-child violence. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

But within a family. So.

SPEAKER_03

Oh well, so me and my brother.

SPEAKER_02

Right. But you're not a sociopath that we know of.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I'm never been diagnosed. Right.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I haven't been diagnosed, but you might have some traits.

SPEAKER_03

I did convince him to put his finger in a stapler once because I wanted to see if you could staple someone's finger. And yes, you can.

SPEAKER_02

See, you convinced him to put his finger in the stapler. I just stapled somebody's finger because he was a bully and I didn't like him. And we were putting things on the bulletin board, and I went bam!

SPEAKER_03

And he's like, damn in my finger. I was like, oh. That's the difference in these zodiac signs. I'm cancer. I am manipulative. I'm a Taurus. Most of the time. Violent. Sometimes it's in a good way. Sometimes it's not. So I, you know, I it's like, I guess in my mind, I'm like, well, he voluntarily put his finger in. So he deserves it. So it's okay that I did it because he was a volunteer.

SPEAKER_02

And see, and me, I was full of like pent-up rage. And then the rage came out. Right.

SPEAKER_03

But so we're clear, it was not okay that I stapled my brother's finger or talked him into putting his finger in the stapler.

SPEAKER_02

I feel my like mine was justified.

SPEAKER_03

Um, there were plenty of licks traded throughout our childhood. He would But at no point you were in the stomach and I'd kick him in the nuts. We'd both lay on the ground and cry. Right.

SPEAKER_02

But there was no point where you were actually like, I'm going to plan to murder him for real. No. Okay. Well, this is where we get into today's story. And I'm gonna ask you, like, how do you measure remorse? Like it's difficult, right?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because it's an internal emotional state.

SPEAKER_03

Well, how do you even know it's real? Right.

SPEAKER_02

When someone like commits an unimaginable crime at 13 years old, though, do you think they should ever get a second chance?

SPEAKER_03

Depends. And I mean, if you're killing somebody, no.

SPEAKER_02

Right. But you're like, well, he was a child, maybe he just didn't know any better, or something like that. Like, there's always these like swirling questions, like maybe he went through rehab and was he was three and he accidentally pulled the trigger on a gun he didn't have.

SPEAKER_03

No. No. Okay, well then I mean, in accidents happen, sure. Maybe you get a second chance after your accident.

SPEAKER_02

Um but he was 13.

SPEAKER_03

He's 13. I feel like you kind of I mean, you know you're not supposed to kill somebody at 13. Right. You know, you know it's wrong, you know it's bad. You've you watched a lot of TV.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. You've seen things, yeah, you know. Hopefully stuff that was like lesson-oriented. But this is this is a question that society is gonna have to answer very soon. And again, what is the right answer? We don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I need to hear what's going on here.

SPEAKER_02

So we're gonna talk about the story of a 13-year-old boy with a genius level IQ. Well, now he really knows better. A charming smile, and a reputation for being being very polite and well-mannered. Circumstances here are uh not in his favor. Right. So this boy who planned the murder of his four-year-old sister, not because she had done anything to him, not because a moment of rage, but it was because he wanted to destroy his mother. And I think this is what makes this case even more unsettling that nearly 20 years later, he still talks about what he did with almost no emotion. So this is the case of Paris Bennett. And I already hate this story.

SPEAKER_03

Right. I'm sitting over here going, why'd you even ask that question? It's pretty obvious the answer to me right now. No.

SPEAKER_02

But I wanted to ask it before I told you what happened, because then you you have all these things swirling around your head, like, well, maybe this, maybe that, maybe this. But once you yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right. The answer is no, but I think he does not get a second chance.

SPEAKER_02

This story gets, I think it gets worse the deeper you go into it. But we're gonna start with who Paris Bennett was before that day.

Paris Bennett Before The Crime

SPEAKER_02

Um, he was born in 1993. His mother, Charity Lee, she she had a difficult life from the beginning. She experienced trauma as a child herself. She struggled with substance abuse, and she became a mother at a young age. But by all accounts, though, like she adored her children, and Paris was her first child. And then years later came little Ella. And despite the family's struggles, like people who knew them often described Paris as extremely intelligent. And we're talking like gifted program intelligent. His IQ has been reportedly around 141.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the idea that he rather than hurting, like killing his mom, who he obviously knew maybe he wouldn't be able to overpower and do, he found the ultimate way to cause her severe pain.

SPEAKER_02

And the the biggest thing is there's no there's no proof that she did anything to him, that he was jealous that she had another child. There was nothing, there was no motive clear as of why he wanted to hurt her.

SPEAKER_03

Wow.

SPEAKER_02

But adults found him very charming. Teachers described him as articulate from like a young age. He's just super smart. People liked him. And that's like one of the biggest themes of this story is that Paris was very, very good at telling people what they wanted to hear, even at a very young age. And I think that's all like always the scary part. Who people who can blend in. And you would never suspect like a 13-year-old who is smart and articulate and just well, you know, spoken would do something like this. And that's what everybody it just took everybody by surprise. Like, what? Because nobody looked at 13-year-old Paris and and thought that's a future murderer, like, not a single person. But behind the scenes, there were apparently warning signs. Paris had reportedly been viewing violent pornography online. There were a few concerns that had come up about manipulation, and he had a history of lying.

SPEAKER_03

Who doesn't have a history of lying?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, everybody naturally will lie. Sure.

SPEAKER_03

They they do it especially preteen.

SPEAKER_02

Until they find out like it's right from wrong, and then most of them will be right than wrong.

SPEAKER_03

The reason they're lying is because they know right from wrong. Right. And they're trying to stay out of trouble, but don't realize the lie actually gets you in bigger trouble than the truth would have.

SPEAKER_02

But most of them are stupid about it. Yeah. And they get caught because you're like, bruh, I know you're lying. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

Right. I don't know the answer to.

SPEAKER_02

But he seemed fascinated with controlling people emotionally. So it was a game to him. But still, none of that prepared like anybody for what happened on February 4th, 2007.

The Night Ella Was Killed

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That evening, his mom, Charity, had plans with friends. So she got a babysitter for Paris and Ella, and she left them at home with the babysitter. And at some point that evening, Paris manipulated and convinced the babysitter to leave. So he was like, you know what? I've got this. I'm 13. You're okay. You can go. I'll watch Ella. Like, we'll be fine until you know my mom gets home. And according to investigators, he had planned this, and it's exactly what he wanted to set everything up. So this wasn't like a spontaneous thing. It wasn't by accident. It wasn't a loss of control or deliberate. Like he meticulously planned this and the perfect opportunity to where he could talk this babysitter into leaving because he knew his mom would be gone for a while. So after Ella was asleep, Paris attacked her. And the details are like really heartbreaking. Um she she never had a chance. Like he stabbed her multiple times. Afterward, Paris made phone calls. He talked to a friend, he spent time cleaning himself up. And then he eventually called 911. And then like when he called, he was like, I killed my sister. Just matter of factly. The 911 operator kept asking him, like, is she breathing? Is this? And he's like, no. He's like, she's like, can you perform CPR? Do you know how? And she's like doing it. He was counting along with her, like he was actually performing CPR. He was literally just walking around the house going, one, two, three. Like he wasn't even doing anything. There was no, like, you know, when you do chest compressions, it breaks the sternum and everything. If you're doing it right. Right. There was nothing. He did nothing. Because he had already killed her. Like he wasn't even going to try. He wasn't.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean, she's been dead a while, like you said. He was cleaning himself up. Yeah, he called a friend, talking on the phone.

SPEAKER_02

Like he was just detached. He was calm. He was detached. Nothing. It was like they said it was like he was describing something that had happened to somebody else. Like, oh, a friend of mine did this or something. Right. So it wasn't even like it was it was out of his head. No panic, nothing. So the police arrived and they quick quickly realized they weren't dealing with a confused child. They were dealing with someone who seemed strangely aware of what he had

A Murder Meant To Punish

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done. In fact, Paris later admitted that at one point the entire point of killing Ella wasn't really Ella. She was the target because she was the person his mother loved the most. Like in his mind, once charity had Ella, apparently somehow she loved him less. She loved him less and loved her more. So his goal was to hurt charity as much as possible. And he believed that killing Ella would emotionally destroy his mother for the rest of her life. And in his own words, leaving charity alive was part of the punishment.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, my thing is like it's not even just that he killed his sister. I mean, it's not that his sister is dead. It is the fact that I have a psychotic child who killed my other child.

SPEAKER_02

Right. And he's 13.

SPEAKER_03

And he's 13, yeah. Like what the hell?

SPEAKER_02

Right. And everybody struggles to process that. Like, how does a 13-year-old think that way?

SPEAKER_03

But that's the thing, is he's on a genius level. He's mentally, he's not 13. Not that his body is 13, but he is not 13. Right.

SPEAKER_02

So psychologists 13. Sorry. Psychologist who evaluated Paris found something deeply troubling. He displayed significant psychopathic oh, yeah, psychopathic traits. Um and psychopathy isn't an official diagnosis in children. And doctors should be. Right. And doctors are extremely cautious about applying those labels to minors, but they observe characteristics associated with psychopathy, lack of empathy, manipulation, shallow emotional responses. Um, there was like no remorse. And there was no like ability to understand emotions intellectually without actually feeling them.

SPEAKER_03

So he could tell you that they think that their brains or whatever are not fully developed, so whatever. But it's pretty obvious his brain is advanced in nature.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And like he like he knows what sadness is, but he doesn't experience it the same way that it's obviously experiences jealousy big time. But he, you know, but he experiences it in a different way. It's a different type of feeling to him. And it's just it's crazy that he's crazy. Like he's 13.

SPEAKER_03

Well, obviously it's followed him into adulthood. Like if nothing has changed, he's he's just that way.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's like like imagine reading a book about grief, and you know all the words, you know all the symptoms, but you never actually felt grief. Yeah. So, you know, I think a lot of experts they believe that Paris could identify emotions in other people, but struggle to genuinely connect with them emotionally. After his arrest, Paris was sentenced under Texas juvenile law.

Sentencing Limits And Parole Fear

SPEAKER_02

But because he was only 13, he couldn't receive the death penalty or life without parole. Instead, he received the maximum available sentence, 40 years, with an eligibility for parole after 20, which is about to come up.

SPEAKER_03

Don't let him out. Right. I mean, he'll he'll end up jealous of someone else, and somebody else will be dead.

SPEAKER_02

So I think, and people are getting nervous, especially his mother. Now, there's an interview with Pierce Morgan that he did with Paris. Um, and he also talked to charity. That that's her child. She still loves him.

SPEAKER_03

I was gonna say that's a very torn position to be in.

SPEAKER_02

She still will talk to him occasionally. But in her words, if he gets out, she said, I'm afraid for my life. And she has since had another child, and she said, I'm afraid for my child's life.

SPEAKER_03

That's the one I'd be afraid for. Right. Like I'd be less afraid about myself and mostly afraid about Right, because he's not gonna go after you, he's gonna go after your next child. Right, or anyone I care about. In that case, like I would just feel like this is gonna be like a repeat issue. He's gonna get out.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_03

He's gonna seek my attention. He's gonna see these other people who've been loving this entire time. And he's going to do what he has to do to continue his plan to destroy me.

SPEAKER_02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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And over the years, like since this has happened, like at 13, and once he became an adult, he's given multiple interviews. And a lot of people are like, well, we hear growth and we hear accountability, but professionals and other people, like they hear in something entirely different. And like with the Pierce Morgan, I watched that whole interview. He's very calculated when he answers questions. He shows zero emotions. So he'll he'll get asked a question, he'll blink a couple times, he'll look down, and then he'll look back up and he'll answer it very matter-of-factly. There's zero emotion there. But they said that guaranteed that when he knew that this interview was coming, he has researched Pierce Morgan. Everything about his interview style. And he will know how to respond. Because the like the place he's in, like he's allowed to have a tablet, he's uh books and things like that. So he's he's done all of his research. He's smart.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I was gonna say, I'm sure he's watched other people interview in similar situations and like their mannerisms and all all the things like how do I make myself look like this way to people?

SPEAKER_02

How do I make myself look a little bit better so people think I'm getting better? But he was like very emotionally flat. He remained calm, his face like barely changed at all. Even when he was discussing the murder of his little sister. Like he's an empty shell. Right. He at one point he acknowledged that he knew what he did was wrong. He acknowledged the pain that he caused. But he described the things that he did almost like academically. Like somebody explaining like a psychology textbook or something. There was, there wasn't an emotional reaction that most people respect. There was no tears, no visible guilt, no emotional collapse. Like you see people in their like their face becomes flush or tears start forming in their eyes or something like that. Nothing. There was nothing. Um he has been diagnosed as a sociopath. And like once that interview came out, like it reinforced was he diagnosed as an adult? Yes, as as an adult, because they couldn't diagnose him as a minor, but as an adult, he has been diagnosed as a sociopath. So and just from this interview that went on, like that kind of reinforced that the concerns that people have that Do you let him get out so he can hurt someone else and then make his way back?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, or do you make him stay?

SPEAKER_02

And like his his apologies aren't genuine, like you can tell they're not genuine, they're just very flat. And at one point in the interview, he described the feeling of him wanting to hurt his mother as a wolf inside of him. And he said, I have control of the wolf. He said, I think if it ever came out again and I wanted to hurt someone, I would hurt myself instead. So right there tells you that he's not got it together. Yeah, he's not better. He he hasn't, there's no rehabilitation for him. It's still there, and he's acknowledged that it's still there. But he would never hurt somebody else. He would hurt himself first. He would he said, I'll take myself out before I do anybody else. Which isn't any better. Right. And it's still like terrifying the thought like of him getting out to a lot of people.

Interviews And The Wolf Inside

SPEAKER_02

And his mother said that, you know, if he was released, that she would have to leave. They look they live in Texas, she would have to move and leave. Well, yeah, you would absolutely have to. You could never have contact with him again.

SPEAKER_03

Like, yeah, you'd have to disappear, change your name, do something.

SPEAKER_02

Witness protection type stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think that those, you know, things in somebody just disappear, especially in a sociopath. Like they're always going to be there.

SPEAKER_03

You're gonna get out, get into a relationship with someone. Right. They have a friend, just a friend, like a best friend, an another girl or whatever. I don't know what his preference would be. You know, I'm just assuming here for the sake of a storyline. But like she shows too much attention to the best friend. Are you gonna like murder her best friend? Like, I I don't know. Like, that to me is like I don't think there's I don't think there's any situation where he could be a part of the world and not at some point do that to someone else.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Because I mean, a a deeply disturbed child and two decades later of incarceration isn't treatment.

SPEAKER_03

And it's a it's two decades later a deeply disturbed adult now.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, a deeply disturbed adult. Because the and this is how he um spends most of his time in incarceration. It's in protective custody and specialized housing. Because this case is high profile, that can make prison like extremely dangerous and he becomes a target because he it was a crime against a child, even though he was a child when he committed it. So he has just like continued his education in prison. Um, he's participated in treatment programs. But again, the prison staff and mental health professionals have remained central to evaluating his progress because ultimately parole boards aren't asking whether Paris was dangerous in 2007. They're asking whether he's dangerous today.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

And like, how do you answer that? Like, this wasn't a case where I got drunk and made a terrible decision. It was a cold calculated murder.

SPEAKER_03

The answers are yes and yes. He's dangerous in both times.

SPEAKER_02

But the parole board will have to consider his institutional record, his psychological evaluations, his behaviors while he was there, risk assessments, everything. And if released, um, Paris would likely face strict supervision, potential counseling requirements, regular monitoring, um, public scrutiny. I was gonna say nobody can know who he is either, because his name is known worldwide amongst a lot of people. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And he became like a hitman. Right.

SPEAKER_02

There wouldn't be like any disappearing unless he went like off-grid into the woods, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

But even with those safeguards, many people remain uncomfortable with this idea. And honestly, I I do understand why. Because the central question of this case still hasn't been answered. Was Paris been Bennett born with something fundamentally different about him? Was it trauma? Was it genetics? Was it all of the above? And perhaps the most heartbreaking part of this isn't the Paris' story. It's charity because she lost her daughter and yet she lost her son at the same time. Like that's a hard thing. You lost one child to death and one child to prison. So you're grieving both. Both. And you're trying to reconcile the unimaginable because you still love him. And I don't think most people could handle that, really.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I mean, I get it. You'll still love him. You don't like you don't like what he did, obviously.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. So I just want to know, and this is my my question of the week.

Listener Question And How To Reach Us

SPEAKER_02

Do you think he should be given a second chance? Like, let us know what you think. And do you believe that a child even with psychopathic traits undiagnosed can be rehabilitated? Do you think that maybe that's just the way he answers things? So that's the way he's always been, and maybe he's better now? Or do you think absolutely not, he needs to stay in prison? But the thing is, is he would only stay in there for 20 more years. So he's in his early 20s now, mid-20s. So he would still get out in his 40s.

SPEAKER_03

That's just more time to prepare.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. That's just more fuel for the fire, I think.

SPEAKER_03

But like I said, does he get out and then do this again and end up back? Like that's the thing. It's like, do you give him the opportunity to hurt someone else so you can keep him longer? Yeah. Uh, because at that point I would imagine he would get like life or death, one of the two, depending upon where it happens. But I don't think there's a world where he doesn't do something again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. And you really don't know what what's the right or wrong answer. You know, it's it's a it's a tough case.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It really is. Because when you she had lots of, um, his mother, Charity, had lots of videos of the kids when they were little, and he was like, you know, just this sweet little boy. And he was always very like, he was talking to the camera, and he was hugging his sister and and taking care of her and loving on her. He he seemed very genuinely loving, but was that manipulation the entire time? Like he held on to that manipulation the entire time.

SPEAKER_03

If it was an act, it's like the level of diabolical.

SPEAKER_02

Right. That is the making of a you know diabolical in a bad guy. Yeah, for sure. But woo. Yeah, it let us know what you think, for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you can uh message us. Um maybe when uh if we have a minute, we can Facebook poll you. Yes. See what everyone thinks. Join the conversation.

SPEAKER_02

Let us know.

SPEAKER_03

But if you want to email us, it's holdmysweet tea podcast at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_02

And go check out that um interview with Paris Bennett from Pierce Morgan. It's really fascinating if you like that kind of psychological stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Indeed. You know who probably does like that kind of psychological stuff?

SPEAKER_02

Patty sells that up.

SPEAKER_03

For sure.

SPEAKER_02

For sure. Because she made our theme music and it's pretty psychological.

SPEAKER_03

Psychosocial. Psychosocial. That's funny. Oh my goodness. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

But thank you, Patty. Yep. And then if you have any stories that you want to tell us about yourself or a friend or uh a bad boyfriend breakup and he went psychotic or something like that, or near death experience. Let us know for our sweet tea after dark.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you can send those also to hold my sweet tea podcast at gmail.com.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. And you don't have to, we don't have to include your name, or we can, and we can just make you famous, but not really.

SPEAKER_03

It's up to you. It's really up to you. Some people love shout-outs. Some people are like, don't you dare. Right, do not say my name.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. And as always, Hold My Sweet Tea is a drunken bee production. And you guys remember to stay safe out there. Notice your children's psychopathic traits.

SPEAKER_03

For real. Watch your old babies.

SPEAKER_02

Watch your babies. They get in a little cuckoo. Go take them to therapy. And just because we're dipping doesn't mean you can't keep sipping.

SPEAKER_00

Bye.