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Ep. 131-The House on Chew Avenue: The Eugene Horsch Investigation

Pearl & Holly Season 1 Episode 131

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This episode discusses an active criminal investigation. Some information presented is based on law-enforcement statements and reporting from multiple news organizations and may change as investigators review additional evidence. Eugene Horsch has not been charged with the deaths of the missing women discussed in this episode, and allegations should not be interpreted as findings of guilt.

A routine-sounding call near Independence National Historical Park in Philadelphia turns into something far darker when a U.S. park ranger approaches a parked BMW and hears a woman say, “You’re gonna hurt me.” From there, investigators zero in on Eugene Horsch and a trail of reported evidence that escalates fast: illegal firearms, obliterated serial numbers, fraudulent federal law enforcement credentials, and links to a missing woman’s identification. What starts as a stop becomes a widening investigation that lands at a house on West Chew Avenue in the Olney neighborhood and refuses to stay contained. 

We walk through what police have publicly said they found during weeks of searches at the Chew Avenue property, including ammunition, narcotics, chemicals, containers, and urns believed to contain cremated remains, plus extensive digital media storage. Then we slow down and talk about the difficult context investigators have to untangle, including the history of Eugene’s father, Raymond Charles “RC” Horsch, whose background as a photographer, filmmaker, and writer involved sexually explicit and violent imagery. That context doesn’t excuse anything, but it matters when investigators must separate fictional shock material from potential documentation of real harm. 

The most gut-punching turn is digital forensics. Police report recovering roughly 600,000 images, 70,000 videos, and more than 10,000 pages of writings and drawings, while having reviewed only about 5% at the time of their latest update. Investigators say they identified missing women Maribel Fraces and Gabrielle on footage that appears to show them alive inside the house and later appearing deceased, opening a death investigation even though bodies have not been recovered. We talk about why proving a homicide without remains is so hard, why internet speculation can damage real cases, and what questions still have to be answered before anyone can responsibly claim they “know” what happened. 

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Sources:

Philadelphia Police Department
Official statements and August 12–13, 2026 press briefing regarding the investigation, digital evidence, missing women, search warrants, and death investigation.
6abc / WPVI Action News
“Images from home on West Chew Avenue in Olney appeared to show 2 missing women dead, Philadelphia police say”
By 6abc Digital Staff, John Paul, Amanda Pitts and Elizabeth Worthington
August 13, 2026
6abc / WPVI Action News — Article
NBC10 Philadelphia
“‘Graphic' videos at Olney house show 2 missing women believed dead, police say”
By Emily Rose Grassi and David Charns
August 12–13, 2026
NBC10 Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“‘Graphic and dark’ evidence found inside Olney home suggests 2 missing women are dead, Philadelphia police say”
By Laura Fay, Joe Holden, Tom Gardiner and CBS News Philadelphia staff
August 12, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Detectives looked for evidence of wet cremation at house in Philadelphia's Olney neighborhood, sources say”
By Joe Holden
July 28, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Police excavate pipes around house in Philadelphia's Olney neighborhood as investigation continues”
By Dan Snyder and Nate Sylves
July 22, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Investigators likely looking for DNA in pipes at house on Chew Avenue in Philadelphia, expert says”
By Dan Snyder and Casey Kuhn
July 23, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Grand Jury indicts Eugene Horsch after he was arrested with loaded guns, fake DEA and FBI badges”
By Alexandra Simon
July 9, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Man charged after investigation uncovers ‘laboratory’ of chemicals, drugs and guns in Olney home, police say”
By Tom Ignudo
June 27, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
CBS News Philadelphia
“Missing Philadelphia woman's last known location was Olney home at center of complex investigation, family says”
By Tom Ignudo
June 28, 2026
CBS News Philadelphia — Article
The Philadelphia Inquirer
“Raymond Horsch's criminal past and obsession with violence weighs on investigations of Philly's missing women”
By Barbara Laker, Ryan W. Briggs, Max Marin and Ellie Rushing
August 2, 2026
Philadelphia Inquirer — Article
FOX 29 Philadelphia
“Photos show 2 deceased women in Philly home investigation: What we know”
August 13, 2026
FOX 29 Philadelphia — Article
PEOPLE
“‘Graphic and Dark’ Photos Show 2 Missing Women Seemingly Dead in Philly Home as Police Find 10,000 Pages of Drawings, Manuscripts”
August 2026
PEOPLE — Article
New York Post
“‘Graphic' videos found at Philly house of horrors show 2 missing women dead: ‘It's dark. It's real dark’”
August 13, 2026
New York Post — Article

Cold Open And Return

SPEAKER_00

Imagine you're a police detective. You walk into a house in Philadelphia because you're conducting an investigation. You're expecting drugs, maybe illegal weapons. You aren't expecting to find a digital archive containing hundreds of thousands of images, tens of thousands of videos, thousands of pages of writings and drawings. You aren't expecting to discover material that may connect the house to women who disappeared years ago. And you certainly aren't expecting to find video footage that appears to show two missing women alive and later dead. This is Hold My Sweet Teeth.

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I was gonna say mothers and truckers. Flockers, truckers, we're back. I'm Pearl, by the way, in case you forgot. I don't think anybody could forget.

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Right. But we have been having the uh the summer of our lives, apparently. That's horse shit.

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Exactly. Not the summer of my life. I'm tired.

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But as we learned last summer, we have a very tough summer job. So therefore, it's really hard for us to even go home and stay awake, much less do the podcast. So we're sorry that you know you had to have some reruns, but we got some fresh stuff for you today.

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Yeah. I mean, I literally wake up, come here, yep, get home, go to sleep. Yep. So, and that's my last couple weeks every freaking summer. So, no chance I'm researching squat. So, yeah. At some point we might get ahead. Yeah, maybe so, but we try and it never actually happens.

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Just to expect summer to be the summer remix. Yeah.

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A summer remix.

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Right. Oh, that's what that's what we're gonna be doing. So, but we're back and we have some, like I said, fresh episodes, and we're going to be diving deep into some stuff.

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Yeah. And we have fresh new microphones that we're not using today.

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Yes. Bought some really nice quality ones, and our little mixer box could not handle them.

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So getting another mixer. Yeah. So maybe next time we'll sound prettier. Crisp. We'll see.

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Yeah. Hopefully so. I'm I have hopes for it. High hopes. Yes. Any hopes at this point.

Facts Versus Online Rumors

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So where are we going today?

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're going to Philly. I'm too tired to go to Philly. Maybe it's maybe it's like South Philly. So we'll just say that. But I know it's not the South, but it's a case that um is still unfolding. Oh, fun time. And because as disturbing as what investigators have already discovered, like maybe police say they have reviewed only a small fraction of the evidence that they have already. That sounds terrible. It does. And I and before we like go any further, I want to make something very clear. We're going to separate what police have established from what is alleged, suspected, or still unknown. Like I said, the case is still developing in real time. There's like tons of questions, horrifying discoveries, missing women. But there's also things that investigators simply don't know yet. And until they do, we're not going to turn suspicion into fact because that's raging online right now. And oh, I bet we are not doing that.

SPEAKER_01

When something big happens and it's like everybody's got their guess is what it what it is, and then they start spreading it around like it's the truth.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And people are like, this is the house of horrors. And I'm like, well, the last one was the house of horrors, also. There's also a house of horrors, but there's still, you know, there's some horrors in this house. There are. We're not joking about this, but you know. Horrors. Hurrors.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And that's the thing, is like, once you think you've heard or seen the worst, right? The next thing seems to be the worst again.

SPEAKER_00

And then people grab it, and all the TikTok detectives are jumping on it with their speculations, and we're we're not doing that. We're going with the facts, and we're gonna uh I I researched what feel like dragnet, just the facts, just the facts, ma'am.

Ranger Stop Sparks Investigation

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Exactly. So this didn't happen very long ago, June 19th, 2026, in Philly. Wow. Yeah. So a U.S. park ranger is near Independence National Historical Park when he hears what sounds like an argument coming from a parked BMW. Inside the vehicle, a man and a woman, the ranger approaches, and according to police, he hears the woman say something that immediately concerns him. You're gonna hurt me. So at that moment, would set off an investigation that less than two months later would grow into one of the most disturbing investigations Philadelphia homicide detectives have seen in years. The man in that BMW, 44-year-old Eugene Horsch.

SPEAKER_01

That's why I said Horsch shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. The Horsch house.

SPEAKER_01

That that is my one and only joke about this whole thing.

SPEAKER_00

Maybe it's the house of Horsch.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, technically it is.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Um, police say, police say the subsequent investigation uncovered firearms, including guns with obliterated serial numbers, a switchblade, and fraudulent federal law enforcement credentials.

SPEAKER_01

So what what's he pretending to be?

SPEAKER_00

I think it was DEI. Okay. But I'm not like positive. Positive. Um, the woman with Horsch was carrying identification belonging to another woman, a woman named Blair Tanzelli. And Tanzelli had been missing since 2023.

SPEAKER_01

So three years.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So police aren't starting with like a cold case. They're starting with a man carrying illegal weapons, fraudulent federal credentials, and a woman beside him carrying identification belonging to someone disappeared years earlier. So that was enough to make investigators take a much closer look. And

Inside The Chew Avenue Search

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that look led them to a house. The house sits on West Chu Avenue in Philadelphia's Olney neighborhood. And investigators would eventually spend weeks searching it. What they found inside was strange enough to raise questions long before anyone knew what was on the hard drives. So police reported finding firearms, ammunition, narcotics, evidence of what appeared to be a marijuana growing operation. More than a hundred and twenty pieces of ballistic evidence were reportedly recovered. There were also chemicals, a large fifty-five-gallon drum connected to hoses or piping, urns containing what investigators believe to be cremated remains, false federal identifications, and other materials that caused investigators to take a much deeper look at the property. And then there was a handwritten document. This document contained references to the serial killer Ted Bundy and descriptions of violence. Hmm. Yeah. But here's where we kind of have to slow down because one of the most important like you know things in true crime is context matters, of course. Horsh's attorney has suggested that some of the disturbing material could have belonged to Eugene's father, Raymond Charles Horsch, known as Arcee Horsch. That's so hard to say. I'm sorry. And that brings another person into the story. The man whose history with the

RC Horsch And Amy McHale

SPEAKER_00

house is almost as disturbing as the things investigators found inside of it.

SPEAKER_01

So RC and Eugene both potentially could be horrible people together.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So before Eugene became the focus of this investigation, there was his father, R. C.

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R.

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C was a photographer, filmmaker, and writer whose work involved sexually explicit and violent imagery.

SPEAKER_01

I thought you were gonna say he made like snuff films.

SPEAKER_00

No. Well kinda. Kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

He also wrote fiction involving serial killers. One of his books is titled Empathy, The Memoir of an Empathetic Serial Killer. Say, huh? Exactly. His work blurred the line between fiction, fantasy, and disturbing imagery. And investigators are now having to determine exactly where the father's world ends and the son's begin. Because the Chu Avenue property has been associated with RC before Eugene lived there. And one of the oldest missing persons cases connected to this house involves a woman who had a very personal relationship with RC. Her name was Amy McHale. Amy disappeared in 2016. She was a mother and she had been married to RC. She wasn't Eugene's mother, though. According to reporting, Mikhail's last known location was the West Chu Avenue property. Her daughter has said that her mother sent messages indicating that she was safe at the house, and then she disappeared and she never came home. So for nearly a decade, Amy's disappearance remained unresolved.

SPEAKER_01

Those messages were probably not from Amy.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I'm thinking. I doubt they were from Amy at all. They were just like, oh, I'm okay, I'm here, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden, nothing. Like somebody else was sending them. And Eugene, then Eugene was arrested. So suddenly the house where Amy was last known to have been was being searched. My thing is, is why were why wasn't the property searched before when she disappeared? Did they just not have probable cause?

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

If that was the last known place that she was, why there was some investigation going on. Right. So I think there were some things that were overlooked several times, having to do with RC and Eugene and this property.

SPEAKER_01

And again, I mean, I guess she's an adult, so you get that whole she's allowed to disappear if she wants to disappear spiel. Yes. And I guess RC could have been like, oh no, she left a long time ago. I don't know where she is.

SPEAKER_00

And since this has happened in June, police have excavated portions of the property. Investigators have examined plumbing, sewer components, searching for DNA. Like they dug up all the plumbing. I was gonna say you dug up anything, everything. Dig it all. Yep. They examine containers, chemicals, and they begin trying to determine whether the physical structure of that house held answers to what happened to Amy. But there's always that major problem. There's no body. And there's no public evidence at that point establishing that Eugene had killed Amy, or R. C for that matter. And in fact, Eugene had not been charged in Amy's disappearance at all. And that may remains true today. So she just disappeared and nobody was like nobody got in trouble. Right. No

Blair Tanzanelli Missing Person Links

SPEAKER_00

finger was pointed to anybody. But then there's Blair Tanzanelli. Tanzelli. I'm sorry. Blair disappeared in 2023. And unlike Amy's connection to the house, Blair's name surfaced almost immediately when police encountered Eugene.

SPEAKER_01

Of course, because that lady was carrying her ID.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And investigators um found other items connected to Blair also. And people who knew Blair described her connection to Eugene's home. Again, if there was a connection and people knew that, why again was nothing investigated? Which is weird three years ago. Yes. Right. So according to reporting, she had worked there as a home health care aid. There were also For who? Probably RC, because he just passed away in 2025. Okay, makes sense. Got it. So according to reporting, she had worked there as a home health care aide, and there were also allegations of a financial dispute involving Eugene. But again, we need to be careful because Blair's disappearance remains a missing person's investigation because Eugene has not been charged with killing her. Right. Because they don't know if she's alive or dead. She they just know she's missing. Right. And her body has not been found. And investigators have not publicly established exactly what happened to her, but investigators weren't done because inside the property on Chu Avenue, there were computers, there were hard drives, there were phones, CDs, videos, photographs, documents,

Hard Drives Change Everything

SPEAKER_00

an absolutely staggering amount of digital material. This is where investigation takes another turn. Police recovered approximately six hundred thousand images. That's a lot. Seventy thousand videos and more than ten thousand pages of writings, manuscripts, and drawings, according to Philadelphia police. Investigators at this point have only reviewed about 5% of the digital evidence when they made it, made their latest announcement.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like they probably gotta have like so many people looking at this stuff.

SPEAKER_00

That's a lot. Yeah. Like they have a mountain of evidence, and they barely scratch the surface. So investigators began working through the first hard drive and they found something. Something that has completely changed this investigation, something that has transformed it from a missing person's investigation into a death investigation. So this is where another person comes in, Maribel Fraces. She was 27 years old when she disappeared in 2018.

SPEAKER_01

So between the other two?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. She had been reported missing years past, and again, nobody ever showed up. No definitive answer about what happened to her. Until investigators examining the digital evidence from the house found images and videos that appear to show Mirabel alive inside the house and later appearing to be deceased inside the house. So Philadelphia police inspector Raymond Evers described what investigators saw as dark, very dark. Police have not released the graphic material publicly, which I get that they need to, there's a lot they're going through. And they have not recovered Mirabelle's body. But investigators say the footage was sufficiently convincing that they notified her family. And Mirabel wasn't the only woman investigators believe that they have sought, like saw. She was only 22 years old. So for 14 years, her family lived without knowing what happened to her.

SPEAKER_01

So that's older than the first one.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Like we're back in 2012 now. And now police say digital evidence recovered from that house appears to show Gabrielle alive and then later appearing dead. Again, nobody. So that, you know, that qualification is important because was it like, oh, they were making a film or something because his father was a filmmaker with these weird imagery and stuff. Right. Did it make them look like they were, like, has it been altered or whatever? But they're saying that it looks legit. Legit. And these women are missing and have never been recovered. So police aren't like simply assuming the identity of the women. Investigators say they were able to identify Maribel and Gabrielle. Their families were notified, and the families have, you know, seen images where they can definitely say, yes, that's them. Um, so Philadelphia police have now opened a death investigation. But like, where are their bodies? I think that's like one of the most important unanswered questions.

SPEAKER_01

And how many more on these videos and pictures?

SPEAKER_00

If they've only scratched the surface of this stuff, you're 5% in and you've already seen two girls. Yes. Yeah. So because police haven't found their bodies, and without these remains, investigators face like an extraordinary challenge. They have digital evidence, they have a location, they have missing women, they have images appearing to show these women deceased, but they still have to prove what happened.

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Who was

SPEAKER_00

Like responsible for this? When did it happen? Where did it happen? Like, there's a lot of questions. Um, and then were there deaths like at some point on some of this stuff, were they actually filmed? And like it's just it's crazy. That's a I that's a lot for an investigator to have to go through, like for real and that's the thing, is like that profession in general.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, you have got to be a certain way to still remain human after dealing with stuff like that. Yeah, but it's everyday.

SPEAKER_00

It's like unfamiliar territory for like a homicide investigator. That's a you you don't have a body, but you have this. Here you go. Go through all this stuff. And I know they have people that go through all of the digital files and things like that, but like they still gotta look at it at the end of the day. You gotta go home to your family with all that in your head.

SPEAKER_01

And like how hence the reason why I crack jokes and people get upset about it.

Building A Case Without Bodies

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Like there's gotta be something like it's the only way to get past it for me.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, but the the videos aren't the only evidence, and investigators have spent weeks searching the property so far. And like we're what two months into it. So more than 95 search warrants have reportedly been executed in connection with the house and its contents.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure because every time something happens and they find something else, they're searching somewhere else. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Authorities have examined the property itself, the basement, the yard, the pipes, the sewer components, like every little container, and then you have the computers, the hard drive, and then any physical evidence. Um, they're also examining the chemicals found at the residence. At one point, um, there were concerns about the materials, like they were serious enough that specialized testing was required. And I have no doubt it's to get rid of evidence. Evidence, right?

SPEAKER_01

Well, yeah, and I mean that stuff could be like leaching into the ground and causing other issues.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and police have also investigated like blood reportedly found inside the house. But once again, we have to distinguish between evidence being investigated and evidence that's been scientifically established as proof of murder, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then other things that are just being speculated, right?

SPEAKER_00

And not every suspicious substance is human blood, not every chemical container is like evidence of murder. So there's there's a lot, and that's why like forensic testing matters, and that's why investigators take their time and go through all this stuff because you don't want to speculate and be like, oh well, I think this is what happened, and blah blah blah blah blah. Like there's there's probably a lot more, a lot more to this case than they've even scratched the surface with.

SPEAKER_01

Definitely seems that way with all that stuff they found.

SPEAKER_00

And oh so far, so far, since June, four women have been connected. So Amy, Blair, Maribel, and Gabrielle And two they feel are confirmed deceased. Yes. Especially with the stuff, you know, like uh the digital evidence of like here's this girl alive and or this woman, you know, and then here's this girl dead. Like I don't know. I have so many questions, and I I feel that the father was involved, of course. And I feel that caught him the way and I feel that Eugene didn't think he would get caught and just kept on going. But you know, that doesn't mean automatically mean like four murders, that doesn't automatic automatically mean one killer, so wait and see.

Eugene Horsch Charges And Custody

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So I you know, we wanted to go through that part and and the victims, but let's let's just go through like who Eugene was. He he's a 44-year-old convicted felon. And when this investigation began, police say he was found in possession of firearms that he was legally prohibited from possessing.

SPEAKER_01

Because when you're a felon, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And like I said, the serial numbers had been taken off, and the fraudulent credentials and all that stuff. Um so far, a federal grand jury has indicted him on charges connected to the firearms and the false credentials. So that's what they're holding him on. As of the latest reporting, he remains in federal custom custody. Um but again, not for murder, just for the other stuff. The other stuff. Which, yay, that he committed those crimes so they could hold him because it this would be a lot harder if they couldn't. Um, because you know, right now the investigation is telling us so much more than the criminal charges are. And then I just I I just want to know like how much of what they found belongs to Eugene and how much belongs to his father. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it sounds like it's it's uh community property. Right. The community being his father and himself. Yeah. Like it sounds like shared property at that point.

SPEAKER_00

And Philadelphia police have said they expect to continue searching the property, of course, and detectives are returning to areas they've already examined, going back through evidence, reviewing digital files, identifying people who appear in the videos. And police have said they've already located some individuals shown in the footage who are still alive and have interviewed them. So that's going to be incredibly important because people who appear in those recordings may be able to answer some questions about who was there, who was filming, why this footage was being created, and what happened inside that house.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Some of them could be uh become part of that whole downfall.

SPEAKER_02

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

If they seem to be culpable.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And like people, like I said, online are calling it a serial killer case, but we don't know that yet. Um what we do know is disturbing enough without adding anything to it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you don't need to make anything up because this seems like it's gonna be um yeah well past enough.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and don't confuse a terrifying possibility with a proven fact. Like sometimes the truth is horrifying enough all by itself. But we'll I will update as much as possible on this as it unfolds and throw some little snippets in here and there.

SPEAKER_01

And I was gonna say in a couple months it could be a whole second episode.

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Yep. So and if if so, then we'll do a whole second episode and update everybody on the Horsch House on Chew Avenue.

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Gonna hold it in.

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Yes.

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Tired of people being mean to me on the internet. Right.

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Oh my gosh, yeah. We we we love that everybody sends stuff in and says stuff, but there's some there's some meanie bobinis out there that take everything I say or do the wrong way. Yep. And I mean, I know that's gonna happen.

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Well, for me, I just don't want it to deter someone else from listening because someone else will probably listen and go, that's not what she was doing at all. Yeah.

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But you know, it's what apps. Yeah, just we just we just go, eh, whatever. Yeah. Doesn't bother me. I don't care.

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Apparently, I we talk too much. Yeah. So it's a podcast.

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I mean, it's a podcast, that's what we do. It took us too long to get to the the point or something like that, you know. I'm like, not really. Right. We have a story to tell. This is a storytelling platform, yeah, pretty much.

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And I'm not just telling everyone else a story, right?

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I mean,

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