Spit Your Truth

Ep 19 The Interviewer Becomes the Interviewed: Abiah & Faatimah

• Abiah • Season 1 • Episode 19

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We're shaking things up as Fatima interviews the interviewer, diving into the origins of Stitcher Truth and exploring why creating platforms for overlooked artists matters so deeply.

• Creating a platform for truth artists, poets, and holistic practitioners who lack visibility
• The importance of being uncensored and unfiltered in sharing authentic perspectives
• Why supporting others who don't reciprocate becomes exhausting over time
• How professional presentation affects credibility, especially for small creators
• The distinction between cultural identity and religious practices in spiritual movements
• Building communities that allow for authentic expression without forcing conformity

If you've got something to share with the world, reach out to us – this platform was created for voices like yours that deserve to be heard.


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Speaker 1:

What up, bro? What's going on? What's going on.

Speaker 2:

I'm here and we spitting that what you supposed to follow up, bro, follow up, come on.

Speaker 1:

We spitting that, what we spitting that what we spitting that truth Definitely.

Speaker 2:

We spitting that what.

Speaker 1:

We spitting that truth.

Speaker 2:

What's good with everybody how y'all doing today.

Speaker 1:

Man, this is a special one today. Well, all of them are pretty special to me, but you know, today I'm going to get the interview going. My co-host, fatima.

Speaker 2:

Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer, fatima.

Speaker 1:

Fatima Is going to Interview the interviewer and we about to get down To the truth of the matter.

Speaker 2:

And we spitting it all the way.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, so.

Speaker 2:

You gotta say it with the F Truth.

Speaker 1:

Truth, right, truth. I'ma spell it. That's why I'ma spell it with the TF, with the PF.

Speaker 2:

Okay With the truth. Okay Cause when you saying truth, it may be some little lies in there. Come. I'm gonna spell it with the T-F, with the P-F. Okay With the truth, right? Okay, cause when you saying truth, it may be some little lies in there. Come on, but you can say truth, right, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, spit. That's why I say Spit your truth, cause your truth Might not be the truth, it's just your truth. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Spit in your truth and ain't no argument If that's somebody else's truth. You know what I'm saying. Let them go through that. You know what I'm saying. See another TH. You know what I'm saying. But If it's a truth you know what I'm saying it might not be for everybody. With F, you don't an F with me y'all gotta forgive me, man.

Speaker 1:

I'm eating dinner and I'm gonna be smacking y'all ears, so y'all just go ahead and deal with it well, first question of the night what you eating some Panda, some Panda Express. What Panda Express? Why?

Speaker 2:

you throw that name out of there. You ain't got this. You know what I'm saying? Okay, you had Panda Express. So what? What you got from Panda Express, that's gone unless they paying for a commercial.

Speaker 1:

Panda Express. Okay, I just get the noodles and the vegetables. I don't do the meat. I don't really eat meat or chicken like that.

Speaker 2:

So so what kind of vegetables? You're being very truth, okay.

Speaker 1:

They got the. Yeah, everybody knows the vegetables that you can get from Panda Express. All right, buddy, come on the broccoli and all that good stuff like that. It's like a little mixture. I think you got like either that shit is seaweed or it's just like spinach or something like that. It's like a little mixture. I think he got like either that shit is seaweed or it's just like spinach or something like that. Yeah, it's pretty alright.

Speaker 2:

Okay, everybody knows. But their portions is small. That's why they ain't in the hood. Somebody in the hood would have fought them. Their portions is small. For the money they ask for they're very. I guess they're portion size.

Speaker 1:

They be getting small portions out there In Cincinnati, man they be. You can't even damn near close your damn thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they don't do that with, nah, not the damn stuff over here I be like my box. You know what I'm saying $14.

Speaker 3:

That's like you know me Right. You go to the hood Chinese you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

$14, that's like you know me right. If you go to the hood Chinese store and they give you a pint, you know you gonna eat mm-hmm save some for later. That's a one-hitter quitter, so we saying that name and it's okay if you don't know all the names of the vegetables hey, you were silly.

Speaker 1:

Hey, that's what it'd be it's okay. Yeah, it'd be like that sometimes just know it's vegetables leafy green vegetables it's vegetable.

Speaker 2:

That's it, alright, bro. So I have a question. My next question is tell me why you decided to start the Stitcher Truth broadcast or episodes, or all of the things that you do with that and the music. Tell me why you decided to do it.

Speaker 1:

Well, as far as with the podcast, I really wanted to do something like the highlight you know, just truth artists and get people not just truth artists but, like spoken word, poets, holistic. I love holistic medicine. So I got a sister I want to interview. I've been getting an interview but I know she's probably tired of me. I hope she's listening. I apologize, sister, but I've been trying to get you on and our schedules don't co-inflict coincide with you.

Speaker 2:

That's another thing. You know what I'm saying? Okay, so okay, we're gonna get back to the sister. I'm gonna make sure I bring her up, but we're gonna stick to the test. It's your truth. So to me, alright, I'm gonna ask, because I think in the society of cultural you know what I mean black people a lot of us are are. I'm looking for a nice word you know what I'm saying? They don't really want to be. They ain't out there. If you cuss, you cuss. You know what I'm saying? That's who you are.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. That's how you know you don't have no ill intent behind it. You know it's. If you calling somebody a bitch you know what I'm saying it's to raise her vibration. You know what I'm saying. It's to raise her vibration, not really to break her down. You know what I'm saying. So sometimes people need to be called a motherfucker. Yeah, is that the truth? That you're allowing people to see that these so called I don't know cultural black people that are holistic or you know, even if they choose not to cut or whatever, like are they relatable to the people? Like, are they out there being that that person that they're there on social media saying their songs are saying.

Speaker 2:

are songs they're saying are these people that can show and prove they spit in their truth, or do they need a platform to do that so we could bring back the system with the holistic in there?

Speaker 1:

I think that, you know, a lot of people have a platform that they can do their thing and they can, you know, share their content and spit their truth. But I think this podcast is just another big caveat for the people that don't have a voice, that don't have a voice, brother and sister, that don't have a decent following or you know what I'm saying even anybody looking at their music or listening to their music, or listening to their poetry, or even wanting to buy their herbs or, you know, even shop with them. So this is like a caveat, a bridge, so to say, to help, because you know I'm an underdog. Like you know I'm an underdog, you know I'm always looked over and you know, not considered for things that I know that I'm well versed at. Like you know what I'm saying, but you know it's because the way that I think, the things that I say and what I believe in it blackballs me. Because you know people, I'm not a yes man, I'm not a, I'm not a, I don't conform to they bullshit.

Speaker 1:

So with the podcast it is. That's why it's unfiltered and uncensored. Like you know, you say what you want, you get on this money and say how you feel. And you know like I tell everybody, if I ask you a question and it's too personal. And you know like I tell everybody, if I ask you a question and it's too personal and you don't want to answer, just say that. Right, you know like we can. We can have safe words if you want to right safe words.

Speaker 2:

You know like I don't know if you deleted it, but I was like hello hi, yeah, you know what I'm saying like I. I was in school. I said to everybody like is that a thing you did? I said peace or you know what I mean. Like, whatever Way I shoot, you know what I mean, but I totally get it and I'm with it, Like I.

Speaker 2:

You know I, I was doing things in the business matter Like to me. Bro, I appreciate you Right, I see you. What you're doing, I love what you're doing. However, I'm going to keep it. A buck Like this is that's your truth, but I see it grander. Like I see it, Nothing in the way. Like those people with the smaller uh accounts, that's not getting really. I'm going to keep it 100 with them if I don't think that, If somebody can keep it 100 with me, I don't think your video is hot enough. Come on, what can we do to make it better? I'm going to say that it looks dirty. Your flyer look dirty when I buy herbs from you and I'm trying to cleanse my body with a dirty looking flyer. You know I buy herbs from you and I'm trying to cleanse my body with a dirty looking flyer it's too.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying. Like I'm gonna keep it a hundred with you so not to break you down, to lift you up you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

It's not like, okay, like I, I I rock with you because I see how you support what you see, what you envision to be grander. You know what I mean. Or even if you know what I'm saying, or you deal with a lot of things. However, those people like on our platform, like, and sometimes like I told you, bro, like I ain't been on social media but I support people. You know what I'm saying. I say, hey, we can work together. I got this many followers Like, and if we share in each other's stuff or you people, you know what I'm saying. I say, hey, we could work together.

Speaker 2:

I got this many followers like, and if we sharing each other's stuff or you know what I mean at least once a day or once a week like, because I do want to put my stuff out there. If I'm sharing your stuff once a week, you can share mine, or you know what I'm saying, or whatever. You advertise me to people that you know, or whatever. Or share my video. I got and an advocate, but we gonna do this together. Are we gonna meet up? You know what I mean? What Like, I don't want no excuses because you don't have no excuses when you gotta get up, you may have some excuses. When you gotta get up and go to a job not working for yourself, you might make excuses, but you still do it. You be on time and you come home and complain. So if somebody is willing to help you on another level, and that's where I'll be at with it, like I don't care about helping somebody putting their stuff on.

Speaker 2:

But if I'm trying to make money and this is me like, and you got products, I can advertise your product on my stuff or send me $10. What's wrong with that? You're selling a business, but you're thinking it's about me. You ain't even seeing yourself in another level. So would I really want to rock with you? Whether I say you're my brother or my sister, I'm still it's business and I'm trying to raise you too. So I gotta be honest. If you think you're gonna take this dirty bag, you won't. You won't even come to me to do your design. I'm I'm charging you a 200, 300 and I ain't saying your stuff ain't worth that. But if you see somebody ain't got it like that, be like oh bro, just give me 20, or this is how we can work this out right get me two more people.

Speaker 2:

I created a design for them and we even man anything. You know what I'm saying. So to me, when you say, yeah, this is a small, but they gotta think bigger, it ain't coming with an ego, because I am. I work with my ego too. That's how I know how to push it down and balance it. You need a little bit of ego.

Speaker 1:

Right and you know what, Sis, I'm going to just be real, since this is the spit, your truth, and I haven't got to say how I truly feel, and I hope everybody that you know that I'm talking about. I hope everybody that you know that that I'm talking about. I'm just going to be real. Everybody that I'm talking about. I hope you're listening. You know I'm done supporting Negroes that don't support me. I'm done. I'm done stretching, putting myself out there and being and wanting to help and saying, hey, I will help, I am, I'm here to help. I'm done with that, because every time I did it, I got burnt.

Speaker 1:

I got burnt, and it was by these.

Speaker 2:

You know what Hold on. Hold on. Can I say this Okay, I'm sorry, Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

It was by the so-called Hebrew Israelites. Yes, I said it, it was by a lot of you niggas that when I show love, love wouldn't show back. For instance, I helped, I done helped people out, I done did things for people and then, just because what I believe in is different from what they believe in, they turn puss on me.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying, but they was waiting to do that. Anyway, bro, let me just say how great you is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they was waiting to do that, I'm right.

Speaker 2:

And I said it in a little bit, not how great you are, how great you is, muslim brothers. I came to a Hebrew-Israelite brother Brother. I was to a Hebrew Israelite brother brother. I was in the house. So yeah, every time I'm gonna show up, I'm gonna make sure you good, I don't gotta, I don't gotta be like how you are. Right. To the team. You want me to be a robot. This is how I was made. You never looked at me like that Like, and I keep it up. Right.

Speaker 2:

You keep it up Like, and when I be in between, like bro, I love you, I appreciate you, I really mean it, and I might not have the time to be on your page sharing all the time, but I get to it. That's why, when you said, sis, come in, come in, come in, I do an interview for me, I said I'm gonna make a way. I put something else on hold to be here today I appreciate that because I know how you and I see what you you have.

Speaker 2:

You got a diamond in the rush and all you gotta do is take the. You you got to apply the pressure Right, and that's what you're doing, and you're doing it in your own way. So they was waiting. Yeah, they was waiting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they was.

Speaker 2:

They really say they are because you say you walk in peace, you walk around, say shalom Peace. Do you know? That's the absence of confusion. There ain't no confusion in what I believe, because this is me the absence. Why are you confused about how I worship?

Speaker 1:

What that got to do with you. What that got to do with you.

Speaker 2:

That ain't got nothing to do with you. What's that got to do with you, ass? That ain't got nothing to do with you. But you want to put that sound like the devil to me. That don't sound like. No God, no peace. How is it going to be peaceful for me to perform and be you? Hello, do you hear me now?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I had to mute myself because I hit that. I hit that. It went down the right pipe and at the right time. So, yeah, yeah, I had. Yeah, I'm gonna say this like I've walked, I have I've been in a lot of, a lot of different walks of life. I've been, I've I've I've did with, with and died with in a lot of different spiritualities, and I can say that this, this spirituality that I'm in now, it feels, it feels like home, and but the thing of it is is that it and I, I told her I was, I had an interview the other day and it was a, you know, a brother, and I was like man.

Speaker 1:

You know, being a Hebrew Israelite is a religion, I said an Israelite, being an Israelite is a part of the bloodline. But if you look at the last past 10 years of what was going on I'm going to get even deeper with it too, though, but hold on. So if you look at the last 10 years of what's been going on with this whole Hebrew Israelite movement, the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, all you see, if you type in right now on Google Hebrew Israelite, you go see some nigga on the damn corner dressed up in some old military.

Speaker 2:

Nah what's?

Speaker 1:

the, the dude, I am the master right right looking like show enough and then you know screaming at some white man talking about some you, the devil, and this and this and that and I'm like, but that ain't what I want to be. You know, that ain't what I want to be, like a part of, like I don't want to be associated with that. So how does one disassociate they self from the Hebrew Israelite religion?

Speaker 2:

because yes, it is a religion. You know what? Why I started laughing is because to me, when you say Israelite, that's a people, that's not a religion?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's not. It's a bloodline of people. Yeah, that's a people, that's not a religion.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's not. It's a bloodline of people, it's a people. What people make is let's break down the word religion. Religion is a Latin. It comes from a Latin word. Excuse me, the Latin word is religare, meaning to return to the flesh. Mm.

Speaker 2:

Ligament. You see, religare, you know, return, lega liga, ligare. So return to the red. Really, if we break it down further than Latin, because Latin came from somewhere else too, uh-huh, and we talking about the sun, Return to the people of the sun Ain't got nothing to do with getting up every day wearing a garment, First of all, it ain't got nothing to do, and you do have to wear certain things and stay away from certain things that you can't do updating. You do have to because we are people of the sun, things that grow under the sun, relatable to the sun. That's why you wear the tassels on each side, these children of the sun. East, north, east, south, west, you feel me so I understand.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean the couple you know I don't want to talk to. No, like I said, dirty, you look dirty bro right, right you can say all the truth that you want to say. You look dusty on the corner yeah with these dusty signs. You don't even look wealthy.

Speaker 1:

You talk about you come from king, you look and that's the crazy part, sis, is that you know my brother Bass down at St Pete and IFC. They get on the corner and they be looking fresh, they, fresh.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I ain't see them now. I'm talking about the Dirt.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they don't be yelling and cussing, and black, white men. They don't do all that. They just read the script.

Speaker 2:

What I'm saying is okay and that's the stuff. But sometimes everybody has a season like everybody got their own way to get to where they need to be, Right, right, Some people might be drawn to that. So I wasn't drawn to the brothers on the corner looking dusty. I was growing to sit basically on the corner in front of the post office doing their thing. I used to sit in the bus stop and listen because I understood what they were saying. There's no judgment of what they were saying and calling people out. I like that. They about that life, I like that. Brother shalom, you know what I mean. Hey, yeah, yeah, you look good too. Look at that beard, Ha you silly.

Speaker 2:

Look at them, braids, come here honey.

Speaker 1:

And see they are good for certain reasons.

Speaker 2:

If they was dusty, I'd say, okay, I can wash them up, I can make some outfits for everybody.

Speaker 1:

Right, but they good, they serve a purpose. They are good for entry-level people that come into this and with the entry-level and want to know they just base information. After you get you grow past these classes, you start to understand that they just teaching the same shit over and over and over again.

Speaker 2:

I think that for the people that ain't never had nobody to listen for, like they got a little brother. It's another vibe I get from them too. They're not disrespectful. You know what I'm saying. It's a women, they love a woman and they say different stuff. Or even if they need people, need women, sometimes need a man To say you look like a whore.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I agree with that and he fine.

Speaker 2:

Put on some clothes. You're the kind of woman that I would marry, but look at you. That's not for everybody. I'm not just saying Knock her down, lift her up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, lift her up, right Look not the wrong thing.

Speaker 2:

So I'm not just saying knock her down, lift her up, look not the wrong thing, uh, uh. So I'm saying I like that, I like that. I'm telling you I'm sorry if I'm over taking, but like when I grew up, my father, I say my father do things. I hear stories about my father doing things. They built the mob right, brick and mortar by their own hands they built it.

Speaker 3:

They're stories about my father doing things. They built the mosque Right.

Speaker 2:

Brick and mortar by their own hands. They built it. They got the where they bought the mosque. It was a holster. When men used to pull up for the women, the brothers would come out F-O-I and lift the car and take it up the street. Damn. Lift it. So they stopped coming up there and that made the women that was prostitutes what Taking their shahada become a Muslim NGT.

Speaker 1:

Right, they see them, motherfuckers getting like oh yeah, brothers that had businesses. Right, yeah, and that's what makes any movement appealing when you see the people of the movement coming up and they prospering, that's what makes any movement appealing. That's why the Black Panthers were so appealing, because they had they controlled.