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Ep 20 Seeking the Most High: Beyond Garments and Street Corners
What happens when passionate street preachers meet the complexities of modern spiritual seeking? In this thought-provoking episode, we dive deep into the world of Street Hebrew Israelites and their impact on Black communities across America.
Through a captivating, sometimes challenging conversation, we explore whether these street corner teachings truly serve those seeking connection with the Most High or if they sometimes miss the mark. Our hosts don't shy away from difficult questions: Why are women's voices often absent from these teachings? How do rigid gender roles affect spiritual growth? Can different paths lead to the same divine truth?
The dialogue takes unexpected turns, moving beyond religious doctrine to touch on men's mental health in the Black community—a rarely discussed but crucial topic. Both hosts share personal experiences that illuminate how emotional suppression harms men and their relationships, offering insights into creating healthier spiritual communities where vulnerability isn't seen as weakness.
Perhaps most powerfully, this episode demonstrates how disagreement can coexist with deep respect. Even when our hosts hold opposing viewpoints, their connection remains unshaken, modeling the very love and acceptance they advocate for. This isn't just talk about spirituality—it's spirituality in action.
Whether you've encountered Hebrew Israelite teachers on street corners, wrestled with questions about traditional gender roles in spiritual contexts, or simply want to understand different approaches to faith in the Black community, this episode offers fresh perspectives that challenge assumptions while honoring the search for truth.
Join us for this spiritually rich, emotionally honest conversation that proves we can disagree without disconnecting, question without disrespecting, and seek truth without claiming to have all the answers.
this is the spit, your truth podcast what's going on everybody?
Speaker 2:hey, we are back. I think I think we back, I think I'm not sure. Y'all for real, like I'm really just like. I kind of like I'm having a day today, for real, I ain't gonna lie y'all. So Buckle in man we about to build. It's your boy, abia. It's your boy, abia. And my sister, my co-host, the host. She's one half of the host of Speak To Podcast Myself and the most high in this podcast. Hey you already know. Okay, hey, you already know.
Speaker 3:Okay, y'all already know, but we having a date, but we gonna talk it out. And I was like hey, hey, hey, cut you off right, because your whole energy changed. You was trying to figure things out. You know, get the recording together so we could do what we do. And I was sitting here chilling in peace hey, can do what we do. And I was sitting here chilling in peace, thinking whole five like hey, it's gonna do it. It changed up and I'm grateful.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what man Sometimes, like you gotta take, like they say, you know you gotta take the good with the bad and keep gambling and you know, just always try to.
Speaker 3:You know, turn sugar out of it turn lemonade out of everything and that's why you got to put that whole trust in the most high real tall.
Speaker 2:Tall, real tall.
Speaker 3:The whole trust blindly.
Speaker 2:The whole trust y'all.
Speaker 3:This is going to work out how it's supposed to work out Facts.
Speaker 2:Facts Right. This is going to work out in his favor in his way in his time, joe trusting the most.
Speaker 3:how y'all but we gotta add, we gotta add, we say his right, right. We the image and the reflection and the likeness of God. So we got to her in there too. Some people may be offended by that, but I'm the reflection of God and I, but I'm a reflection of God and I mean I'm masculine and I'm still in a feminine body. I'm feminine.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right. It was always a duality to the most high Like. No, I don't think that.
Speaker 3:That's why it's talked about as we Right, we Not I.
Speaker 2:Right, so yeah, man sometimes it is I right, just to just to give you that singularity, to let you know that it ain't no other god around him or doing the things that he's doing, but when I agree, you know.
Speaker 3:But also it is us be the image and reflect. We gods and our own we reflection of god. So it's how we vibrate, that is the reflection that we see. You may not be on my vibration, right, and that is okay, but I can see your vibration for your level of love for god, and that is okay. The Most High Yahweh, yeshua, jehovah, jesus, a wall or whatever you see, I see God in you in your own way. Who am I to limit God? You can worship how you choose. That's what your spirit is called to. Hey, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3:But, don't try to, you know, because they get into the human side. That's why we read stories about, like the folk tales, or what is it the mythology of this? Human perceptions of God? Human, when you ain't in your godly spirit, how you even going to try to imagine God? Come on now, stop playing. Right, right, right. You could be in the devil's spirit and think you God.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:What you think the devil is.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 3:He want to submit to us. So he's trying to throw us all off because we, the reflections and likeness of God, didn't say that Satan is the reflection and likeness of God. It said we, but also the devil too. The devil ain't going to do no more than the most high. Allow the devil in. But sometimes you got to kill the devil inside of you. You gotta be the angel, you gotta be the. You know what I'm saying. But that devil's mad. That devil's mad because we are the ones that are promised. He's promised to end. He gotta end them days. So he's trying to keep all of those children of the most high separated, like, however however you. You can say it's the universe. I understand your perception of the most high being the universe. I do the flowers, the bees, that's love, that's that.
Speaker 2:Definitely. You know I'm listening, Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's that image of the monochrome. If you choose to play whatever you want, it ain't come. If you ain't listen to this kind of music, then you ain't Israelite. If you ain't come, if you ain't listen to this kind of music, then you ain't Israelite. If you ain't wearing tassels, you ain't this kind of Israelite, you ain't you listening to whatever you gospel. You ain't listening to that, then you ain't Christian. If you listen to music, you ain't Christian. If you listen to music, you ain't a Muslim. But everything is music. For I love music too. Everything. The wind, the wind, the wind is the best music you can do. You can do beautiful things and feel the love of God, no matter where you could be.
Speaker 3:Talking about making love to your woman in the song. Why is that bad if that's my husband? Why is that bad if that's the one that I choose to lay with? Why I can't listen to that? I can hear God in it. God created sex. I can't talk about sex. I can't have imaginations of sex. I don't remember having. I had sex with Judy because you born. You know what I'm saying. So, like you know, we can't have, we can't.
Speaker 3:Everybody got to look at what the devil. Then how are you so worse than the devil? Because you ain't you still playing with the heart? Set apart music radio? How you living in yourself, how you not standing in joy all the time, how you not rejoicing all the time? Even in the troubled times I had to teach that to myself. My sister passed away. I got up and started dancing, not that I wasn't sad. I took that sadness and made it something else. Why you people was upset? Oh, she making TikTok videos. Her sister died, her niece still died. Would you want me to be sad in the place you think I'm? You know what I'm saying. If you really believe what you're saying, then you know that she in a good place and she a good person. So why I gotta be sad? I should be happy.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:But you know, but you know that's why you're doing what you do, Like you, everybody you know. You know some people use females as an attention seeker. Oh yeah, a seeker. My, my, my, my. This person passed as a attention seeker. Oh yeah, a seeker, my, this person passed and just keep talking about it. I had a baby pass in my arms. I don't bring it up. So people, I don't say I don't bring it up to make people feel sorry for me. I say that to show other people that they can keep going too when you fully trust the most high. Would you rather have me drunk and giving me a liquor? I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that right I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3:You'll give me that, but you don't want you. So I can get over my sadness. You're giving me a spirit that lowers my spirit. Why? But also, I ain't knocking it too, because jesus don't want it right and that was the real deal, not this stuff. Now, that was the real deal. Do you imagine the one? No, you know what I'm saying, so I'm not writing it either. But we, we don't have that love that we say we had. We, we weren't controlled. So we're going to get on today's topic. Today's topic is what, bro?
Speaker 2:So hold on hold on, keep on spitting your truth. Keep on spitting your truth, hold on hold on.
Speaker 3:No, we're going to talk about today's topic, but this is yeah, we ain't even say that, we ain't even get that in. Welcome to Spit your Truth.
Speaker 2:I just went in. Oh no, yeah, I got it in and we go, we definitely go do what we do. So you know, yeah, she had, she had to, you know, get something off her chest. She had to get something off her chest, y'all. So I'll pray to the most no, no I know it wasn't no feelings.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying like it was just something that was burning in your spirit that you had to say. So you say it and I'll just step back and let you do what you do. You know what I'm saying. All right, I already know that's what we do on Spit your Truth Podcast man. We spit our truth and this is your host, abiyah, and your other host, fatima Madi. We own this mug about to spit our truth. And today's topic, y'all, today's topic is the street Hebrew Israelites, the teaching Is it beneficial to what's going on in our nation? Do we need them or what's going on? We about to just talk about this and give y'all our perspectives. And you know, if you feel some type of way, then you know, always, comment, call in or whatever. You know what I'm saying. We can, we'll dispute it, we'll. You know we're not going to dispute nothing, but if you feel any type of way about what we say in this segment right here, hey, it might be the truth.
Speaker 3:I like the little bombs twisted up Like you get it. It was like come on.
Speaker 2:Now you got that surfing energy Like come on.
Speaker 3:So the reason why it's the feeling energy now, right, right.
Speaker 2:So the reason why we are talking about this y'all because me and the sister we talked it up earlier today, or I think it was yesterday, wasn't it? You said you had a.
Speaker 3:No, today I told you real quick. I was out and about and I heard preaching and outside and I was like I hear preaching. I said it to the sister. She said yeah, the church down there she was like nah, that ain't the. So then we rolled around the corner and it was Hebrew Israelites brothers. They was dressed in t-shirts and jeans, not in the little the other outfits I'm going to say I don't know what they call. They look like the YMCA outfit. Oh, why? Right, you know, kind of like jam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they call them. They call them garments.
Speaker 3:They call them garments. You know I'm not trying to be, you know, but it wasn't, and they were peaceful. Then we rolled down the street. It was another group of brothers down the street and I think that's dope. You know what I'm saying. Because, whatever their love is right, right. However, they choose All these people that talk this stuff on social media, they outside, doing it Whatever, even if you don't agree with them standing outside, you know, and they, you know speaking, and you know what I'm saying. I, I don't feel that they are wrong. I I feel like that's a a good thing, especially if they're not all crazy, because sometimes, in my opinion, the black man needs to act a little strange. He needs to show people his strength. You seen all these videos with um, these men disrespecting women, black women you know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying, and this is a trend, it's like so much so that people are justifying it. And I'm gonna say this I watched the video with the brothers with, you know, with the garments right, all right, I got some things to say. Y'all need some woman love, some real woman love. You know what I mean? The video brother. He called the woman a bitch. He found his proof in the Proverbs. You know why he was calling her a bitch based on her behaviors. He was spitting some truth. He was like you're mad, but he went a little too far. You know what I mean. He had a Jamaican accent, you know what I mean. And I said you don't understand a woman in these lands.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And he just went straight in and he told her baby daddy, that's why she you don't think that you're abusing her. But sometimes our women need to hear that. Right, we need to hear the truth. You know what I mean. Right, we need to hear from men don't wear no weave, clean up your act. Don't talk sassy but at the same time it's abusive.
Speaker 3:We're going to go to the scripture and say what was women created for? The real, that means she's in the delicate nature and I understand that our women is. Some of a lot of us are out of that delicate nature because we had to be the man and the woman. Right, we had to be both sides. So a lot of children, women, boys, girls don't understand the duality of masculine and feminine because the men were somewhere gone. But that's why I appreciate the brothers, the FOY. I appreciate them back in the day because they made their presence known.
Speaker 3:I appreciate Dr York's Ansel or Law community because they were out on the corner giving dollar and bringing people to their version of peace, their version of God. So I'm not knocking it, but if you can't get to love and have a woman stand up, then you be my army, because we need to teach the woman. You can't teach me how to be a woman, sir, you never bled in your life. But you can teach me from a masculine perception. But are you mad at your mother? The same way you preaching to these women? Are you preaching to your mother like that?
Speaker 2:I think a lot of them are.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of them are oh, I know, and some of them hide their women because you've got the woman that you're trying to tell these other women not to be. But sometimes in organizations like that they clean brothers up and they do find women, but y'all find a woman. You got to train honey, get somebody seasoned to be out there To talk to these women. And where's the scripture? Now you're looking for everybody else. They tell me a lot about you. If you ain't going to have me out here preaching how you going to teach me how to hold a baby in my womb and finding that in the scripture and showing you how blessed it could be, you could never understand it. I don't care if you read the scriptures 25,000 times on your back, on your head, whatever, you could never teach me how to be a woman, but I can teach you how to be a man, because a part of this monthly cycle that a woman has she's just like you. She does not have a cycle, she can't bear life.
Speaker 2:I get that. But see, this is the thing and I get when you say a man can't teach a woman how to be a man, a woman but I mean, I did say also that he can teach her because he has a masculine perception of what a woman should be.
Speaker 1:Yes, he can teach her.
Speaker 3:And likewise I'm not saying that women cannot learn from you and you can't learn from women. But it's some things that you will never, ever understand in a woman.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And I don't feel that it should be only men out there. How are you the only one? And then, how are you the only one? That's the teacher. Matter of fact, I'm the first teacher Because in me is a mitochondrial DNA that's original, that has all of the information from your bloodline and mixed with mine In my womb, that was creating its own DNA stance, the emotions you feel, the higher vibrations that you feel, the smelling senses, and everything heightens in you.
Speaker 3:There's nothing in you that you could ever understand that. This is why they were hidden in the scripture. It's not a lot, but it is women in there, like Deborah. She was a judge, she was the leader of an army and through her intuition, a whole army followed her because they knew in her the faith of God wasn't going to if she said they was going to win. They was going to win because God told her they was going to win. So a lot of us are hidden in the scripture because we are that reincarnation of God. We are the reflection of God, the woman. But a lot of us ain't on that vine. We are. We are the first one. We hold on to that first gift melatonin, the melatonin, the melatonin. All of that. It's in a woman. It's in a woman. I don't want subversion. Sir God protected me. It was a woman that birthed Christ. We won't go there. It was a woman that birthed you.
Speaker 2:So my thing is with the brothers that do are teaching on stuff like that, I get it. My thing is with the brothers that that do are teaching on stuff like that, I get it. And the biggest thing is that they I think a lot of them serve a purpose. You know they serve a purpose and the purpose is to you know, is to the first initial wake up, the first initial seed that they plant. And they plant that seed and it's a seed of curiosity because if you're a true seeker, if you want to seek and you are a sponge to wisdom and knowledge and you want to know stuff, then they plant that seed. It's going to have you and you are a sponge to wisdom and knowledge and you want to know stuff, then you know they, they plant that seed. Let's go, let's go how you going back, even if you do the fruit, even if you do like man, I don't believe what they saying. I'm about to prove them wrong. You know I'm saying like it, it, it's a, it serves a purpose and I get it.
Speaker 2:But it's a lot of them on the corners and I'm going to say this it's a lot of them on the corners and we already know who y'all are, the ISPUK. They are just outright, just outright belligerent, outright, just off the hook, and they make us look bad. They make us look bad, I'm going to just say it. They make us look bad. They make us look bad. I'm gonna just say it. They make us look bad. And with the association with, when you type in hebrew, israelite or israelite, and if you type in hebrew, israelite, it'll pop up there. They'll be the first thing to pop up images. You'll see videos of them. You might see IUIC, the other ones, but they are more like they moving in a way where you know it's like they have so many chapters and just people all around the world and that's a good thing too. They serve a purpose too.
Speaker 3:But they're corny too, because the first time I was in Philly I was downtown and they used to be on Market Street in front of the post office.
Speaker 1:Who IUC.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they caught my attention. Right, I they caught my attention right from the. What they was? They were using the bible scriptures and they was getting into some people like, and they wasn't afraid, and I and they was like, hey, you, you tell me, you, you know what I'm saying. Like yeah it caught my attention and the words, they, uh, the the verses that they knew, the backup, what they were. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:Right, they were studying and I was in there and I understood everything that they were saying. You know what I mean. And nobody gave me like, hey, you want to come here, you need a ride, this is our classes, or you know what I'm saying, right? So I mean, that was, and this is like they almost I don't know, I'm fine, and I was covered up or whatever Right, and they got the kind of woman you want. I would have had me in the. You know, I would have. You know what I'm saying. Hey brother, she's beautiful. You know what I'm saying. They act like they're going to attract the women, but you hollering at these women with weeds and all that but when they come and it's on your level, you know what I'm saying they can understand, or maybe you thought I wasn't, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I think that they I'm just saying Say what now.
Speaker 3:They was real loud. You know I go on my tangent. They was. I thought that's just my opinion, I thought it was dope. I also went to Bay Hexabout that's not, that's just uh. Tabernacle, uh, uh, and you know everybody come and they, uh. You know they have their uh and they observe shabbat, and you know what I mean and it's really like passes and you know what I mean. But it's a like fascist and you know what I mean. But it's a lot of older people that was holding that down. It wasn't really.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. So I be like a spectrum for myself and I just say that stop, get some women out there to help y'all. You know what I mean. Y'all soldiers, y'all got it. Ain't nobody gonna come up on. You know what I'm saying. Ain't nobody walking up on y'all, only y'all. I think it's dope, like the brothers, that was outside. They was on Living Noise Avenue in Detroit and they was out there. They didn't seem disrupting and I think it's dope. You know you wanna get the people that you need. You know what I'm saying and what I would say is keep growing. You know what I'm saying, keep going and how you.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying but y'all need some women for her, y'all need somebody that's with the same fire you do and I think they, I think a lot of them are married, like I think a lot of them, y'all need somebody to spit the same fire you do, and I think they, I think a lot of them are married, like I think a lot of them are married, and, and, and you know, or have multiple wives or whatever, and I really do think that that you can tell that they are just a little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get, I get that and but they, you know, I think it's more of a safety thing than you know what I'm saying Like because think about this, sis, like if some shit pop off, I ain't gonna pop off, yeah. But see, this is the thing and this is what women don't understand. I do understand. No, no, see, this is the thing and this is what women don't understand. I do understand. Hold on. Nah, you're not understanding because you ain't even heard what I said.
Speaker 3:We're gonna plan together If things pop off. This is what you need to do.
Speaker 2:But this is what I'm saying. Listen to what I'm saying. If shit pop off, men ain't trying to sit and worry about if this woman is protected or if she's safe.
Speaker 1:We trying to worry about. Hold on sis, hold on, hold on sis, we're worried about.
Speaker 2:We're worried about. We're worried about destroying the enemy. We're not worried about if somebody no.
Speaker 3:So that's, why.
Speaker 2:I think that a lot of them have. I get that, I get that. But see, this is the thing, it's a safe thing and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 3:Hold on.
Speaker 2:No, you don't, you ain't even. Let me say it Because.
Speaker 3:I grew up with all my brothers. I get that.
Speaker 2:But see, this is the thing we're not. We're not trying to. We're not when the shit go down, hit the fan. We're not trying to sit here and worry about if she, we on the front, forefront, and we about to make this happen.
Speaker 3:They tuck away and they go down. Right, they go down. I ain't saying you bring no little babies out there. I ain't even telling you to bring sisters. That ain't need A lot of them. They built for the field. And I'm not saying that. I'm like a man and that was in sense. I'm saying God is soldier and I will feel safe and also I know how to get where I need to get to and move.
Speaker 2:You ain't got to worry about me be out there for the most time before that even go down, we just we alleviate the situation and just not having y'all out there. That's the thing of it. And I get why they do it, because, like when I used to I grew up in new jerusalem.
Speaker 2:I get that. But see, you're, you're, that's you. Every woman ain't the same sis. So the thing of it is no hold on, check out, check it out. The thing of it is is that we, as men, we have a we have an obligation to protect, we have an obligation to to make sure that things are right. When I used to go to the class, I used to. When I came, when you would go into the class, the men would sit closer to the door. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So if something, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2:So, with us knowing that we don't want to have to be in a situation where we got to think about this no, we already are want to have to be in a situation where we got to think about this? No, we already. Our pre-plan is, we're already thinking about it though. But our pre-plan is that we're out here doing it by ourselves and y'all just tucked away, y'all good.
Speaker 3:I ain't that kind. If I was that kind, I wouldn't be on here talking with you now. And I ain't saying that I'm the woman that had to go to work. I respect my husband. I need to treat him whatever. We don't got to discuss none of those things. I get that and I also understand safety. Ain't no questions asked. You know what I mean and my eyes is looking too Matter of fact, most of the time I'm working, the most I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 3:But we're talking about something totally different. I'm talking about, I know what I'm talking about and I know what kind of man my father was and his brothers and faith were, and that's why I think we talked about this before they built the mosque. From their hands they were. They cleaned up Broadway. They were the brothers that got outside and a guy pull up to pull up one of these women. They was dressed as prostitutes. They was prostitutes. So these guys trying to buy them. They got out, came out, picked up the car and moved the car. Those women felt safe and they wasn't. You know what I'm saying. They moved the car, they stopped every time a John or they did you gotta go. You ain't doing none of that here. Those women, all those prostitutes, became Muslims, Started wearing garb. That's what I'm talking about. Women, all those prostitutes, became Muslims, Got away in guard. That's what I'm talking about their faith still protected the women.
Speaker 1:The women got out the cars.
Speaker 3:So what I'm saying is that same thing they did. You keep talking to women and they ain't learning nothing. I respect the NTT.
Speaker 2:How they ain't learning, sis, what you want to learn.
Speaker 1:How they learning how they learning, how they learning anything.
Speaker 3:If you just talking to my wife, they only learning what you doing. That's environment. We still living here. You ain't got no land for her to be, how you saying she's supposed to be. So she supposed to stay in the house.
Speaker 2:Never learn that ain't what I'm saying, but see, this is the thing we it's a non-negotiable. I am talking about learning, I get it that's what I'm saying you giving the word.
Speaker 3:Okay, these brothers giving the word right. I'm talking about you giving the word. Okay, these brothers giving the word right. That's what I'm talking about Giving it to the women. Pick a safer place for she. You know, nothing will pop off.
Speaker 2:That ain't got to be on the street corner, when the men out there teaching to the masses that ain't got to be on the street corner.
Speaker 3:You don't, but then you do. Why not? That ain't got to be on the street corner because it's not smart, it's not advisable and it's not safe.
Speaker 3:That's why that's why they have classes and they have the camps and stuff like that, that the families can go and teach and learn. But when it comes, to me. I don't know what kind of women people be dealing with, but that ain't me, and I ain't saying I'm no man, but I understand the power that these brothers have and so I will feel safe out there, but that's you.
Speaker 1:Even if you will feel still safe.
Speaker 3:I'm sure, and it ain't for nothing to talk that day, it ain't for nothing to pop off. How do you? Know that's the thing that's, the thing that's the thing we live in, a world of causality, but that's how my faith works. I don't know how your faith works. My faith will be safe and secure. Ain't nothing going to happen? And it wasn't supposed to happen. And if that thing was supposed to happen, that's what's supposed to happen.
Speaker 2:Okay, because that's from the most high.
Speaker 3:Okay, so this is the thing, how you want to say this to me and all you make me say and I ain't saying I walk in faith.
Speaker 2:I get that. I do too, but I don't this faith don't. Faith don't mean that you just do ill-advised things, though, who's saying that what? Hold on, that's not in the Bible I'm giving the word of God I get that. But faith does not make you put somebody in harm's way.
Speaker 3:In that light.
Speaker 2:I mean faith don't make you put people in harm's way. So it's like you just don't do that. I wouldn't feel like I was doing my job if I had you out there and me and the brothers, we out there on the street corner and anything could pop off at any given time and we just out. I mean, I'm sure we can keep you safe and stuff like that, but sometimes certain things need to be very thought about, thought out and thought about before we make that plan of action.
Speaker 3:I didn't say eliminate the thought about. I said find a safer place, get a plan, talk about the safety plan.
Speaker 2:Nowadays, there ain't no safe place.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to control too much, and that's why this world is messed up. It's imbalanced. Why? Because you ain't. I know me too. You know what I'm talking about and I don't want to be tucked away all the time, and I get that and it's like.
Speaker 2:I get that because there's a lot of brothers.
Speaker 3:That's why I said men ain't never going to understand the feminine side. I get it. I agree with everything you say.
Speaker 2:But it's not for us to understand the feminine side, it's for us to protect it.
Speaker 3:You don't have to make me a man talking about army rules and me. I'm talking about that too, and people say see first, and I am, and I still see.
Speaker 2:Right, and it's classes that do have certain situations Like this is a class in Cincinnati they do like every Sunday, I think they do like a clothing and food, like food to feed the hungry, feed the poor. They do that. They do it every Sunday and the whole class be out there and they be out there doing it every sunday and the whole class be out there and they be out there doing it and you know what I'm saying, but we do all go about her right, right, but see, this is the thing well, hold on, look hold on
Speaker 2:let's just listen to what I'm saying and don't cut me off. Just listen to what I'm saying. So they have, they, do they, they, they do they, they're, they're feeding the homeless and all that stuff like that. The sisters be out there, they be asking out for food, all that woopy, woopy, woo, everything is a safe situation, even sometimes they be in different cities and different hoods and stuff like that. And they still make sure that everything is safe. And I get it.
Speaker 2:But think about this, and this is why I say that it would be ill advised to have the sisters Out there when we was teaching, because every time that I've seen a video that one of these brothers they was out there teaching, it was always some drama, some fuck going on, something going on, and it was like, bro, why would I have my wife out here, in here? And if I'm about to get out here in the trenches and I know that it's going to be some shit, I get what you're saying. I just me personally, I'm just like man, I wouldn't like, because I know like, and we doing like a feed before a clothing drive, something like that, we'd be well, yeah, but what's that?
Speaker 3:people out there in the public giving out food.
Speaker 2:Don't think that's hard yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely is harm, but it's a different type of.
Speaker 3:It's a different type of beast you don't want her to be out there with the bird, that ain't what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:No, that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I understand everything that you said and I can reiterate it. And I agree every man ain't their soldier. I understand that.
Speaker 2:So we talk about some punch back to me, and I agree every man ain't no soldier either.
Speaker 3:I understand that. So when we talk about some punk or we talk about some brothers that I see that's going, I ain't saying I ain't saying that they can't get the uh, the work. What I'm saying is I see it go down and all of that. But I'm talking about for my me. I don't know about nobody else, but I know that that's in my spirit. I don't mind standing on the corner and giving the word and it's in love and I can understand where somebody's coming from. You need that notion of spirit. You need it, and maybe it doesn't even got to be on the corner. Maybe they bring them the sisters and that is the speech from a loving word. She ain't got to be on the corner, but what I'm saying is that those brothers faith and and the way that they know the word, and I know that they come hard I would love, love to see a woman and they soldiering up.
Speaker 3:The other women need to see that, Because the only thing that I've saw so far, in my opinion, is abuse. You knocking her down, really knocking her down. The whole world knocks us down and you knocking us down and you're knocking it down and you lift up a little bit with that fierceness that you have and you do nothing for it. You tell her she ain't got a husband and that's why she's a baby daddy, Got a baby daddy, and all of that Like knocking it down and giving some little word and you saying that's a God of love. I don't want your kind of that like knocking it down and giving some little word and you saying that's a God of love.
Speaker 3:I don't want your kind of love bro.
Speaker 2:I get that Because they do be on social media, the only thing is like if it's a sister.
Speaker 3:You think I don't get it on a daily basis. Even if I'm always in Hollywood because I wear natural hair and I cover and I won't wear short clothing. You think that all day, not just from women, men. So me standing there and feeling secure around these brothers is the A plus for me and I can talk and raise other people's vibrations and I got soldiers behind me like that Every day.
Speaker 3:I'm out here by myself, right, and I got to hold me down. So you telling me I'd be out because a lot of us ain't there, it ain't because I'm a bad woman.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:It's because these brothers want people that they can teach, that they can puppet, because their perception of a woman is misconstrued.
Speaker 2:I don't think all the brothers like that.
Speaker 3:I don't think they all cook and clean, because a lot of y'all women and y'all don't cook and clean.
Speaker 2:I don't think a lot of them. I don't think a lot of them. It may be some in a bunch, but they may outshadow the ones that are just, like you know, regular type dudes, like you know what I'm saying, so I get what you're saying, but I don't think a lot of them are like that. I think it's like a good 15 to 20% of the brothers that's in this truth. That's walking like that. You know what I'm saying Like real shit, cause I done met some good brothers You've told me a lot of bad brothers.
Speaker 3:I ain't saying that I ain't saying they bad. I ain't saying that I don't know, because if you move like that, I'm saying women, that's already conscious, women, that's already raised up, women, that's how you ain't got a teacher. I don't know what I'm talking about from my own experience. You're talking your experience, yeah but, I, don't think I see some good brothers. You know what I mean Women that ain't already eating pork that was raised that way. You know what I'm saying Already.
Speaker 3:I don't know these women you know the ones that I have met good, but I know some jacked up ones and those people you said people that ain't 8th port man.
Speaker 2:I don't know anybody that ain't never 8th port. I'm never 8th port you probably the only person I know never 8th port. See what I'm saying, yeah, that's, that's what I'm talking about probably the only person I know that never ate pork yeah, that's, that's what I'm talking about a diamond in the rough that they don't even understand.
Speaker 3:This kind of woman exists already. Somebody asked me how many children I had you know what I mean. And I told them the number you know what i'm'm saying and they gasped. They was like you know, wow, you know what I mean. I ain't asking for no money for my children. They got a father. I was mad, bro.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. They didn't even know. You know what I'm saying. I don't need you to take care of Manny in his life and we had conversations and we far why not? It ain't got to be no lower thing. You know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying, but I don't want that. You already not on my level you know what I'm saying. Maybe she got two kids, maybe she ain't got none, that's fine. That's what you want too. You know what I'm saying, right?
Speaker 3:whatever want to you know what I'm saying, right whatever, but y'all looking at my own thing, you know what I'm saying. Some of these women stop being poor because they want to keep the dude and wearing the clothes and all that. As soon as it's over, she's going back to ratchet, right back to ratchet, going back to Ratchet.
Speaker 2:Ratchet Right, right back to Ratchet.
Speaker 3:Right back to it, quit.
Speaker 2:And there'd be some men out here that's like that too.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I know a brother that was like that. His wife was in the truth and she brought him into the truth and when they split, they split up. He went right back to it. I'm like this nigga, like you just did that just to get the cooch nigga, I couldn't maintain it without her he couldn't maintain it right he wasn't ready for that type of woman, that's it. And he got to build himself back up, that's it man, when you do, when you do man, I you do man. I'm just going to be real.
Speaker 3:I don't take care of it. Yeah, I work but my money ain't touching no bill. And if it do, and if you touch the bill, you don't have anything to say to me how do you feel that way?
Speaker 3:okay. So I'm not even saying that I ain't never helped my husband. I'm not even saying that. What I'm saying is you, you rather stress about it, and the most hard is, you want me to serve and you get all the service. This is what I told my ex-husband. I'm going to tell you exactly what I told him. I said you, out here, I'm sitting here patient. You want a carpet cleaning business. I didn't give you the money. I did give him the money so he could start it. One dollar store I had the money. Here it is, go ahead and do your thing.
Speaker 3:You ain't never got the stress about taking care of your family. You ain't never got. If it was a car, I said. You said when we got married you asked God for me and I fit the description in every way. You said your prayers was answered with me, but you neglect me. You ain't going hard.
Speaker 3:I'm being patient. I'm not even complaining about a bill. You ain't got it. I'm going to put the money on it. I ain't never going to bring it up. Make you feel no type of way that would make me go harder. If you prayed to God for a car and you got that car, you'd be out there vacuuming that car, making sure it's fresh and clean. But I'm a prayer answer to you and I'm a flesh like you and I'm a spirit just like you. But you neglect me, you worrying about getting another wife and you ain't taking care of this household right All the way. I should never have to put any money on any bill, but you saying God put the man in charge and all of that. But I'm helping you be a man.
Speaker 1:Being a man is not paying bills sister.
Speaker 2:I don't know being a man. I don't think being a man is paying bills, like that ain't being a man. That's just being a grown ass person's just being a grown-ass person, a responsible grown-ass person.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. I'm not Even if I'm wealthy, if you ain't paying. I ain't saying that when I'm wealthy, rich money, I ain't worrying about no bills, none of that. I ain't got to say, hey bro, you got five dollars tonight. And when it's like you know what I'm saying you still, he still got to go hard, right, definitely. He still got to make sure I'm right emotionally, make me feel safe. I ain't wearing a belt. It ain't got no bills. It ain't got no bills. It's about harmony and peace and love. But if you causing yourself a disharmony and you stressing about bills, you got somebody that ain't stressing you about the bills helping out. It's secret never making you feel no type of way that would make me go hard, you don't deserve me, you're not worthy Is secret never making you feel no type of way that would make me go harder. You don't deserve me, you're not worthy.
Speaker 2:I don't know, because, see, this is the thing and I'm going to touch on it just a little bit and we're going to get back on the topic but I feel like this, like I get it, man, I shouldn't. My trust should be there. My trust should be there and my faith should be there, and most of the time it is there. But just like the scriptures say man Proverbs say better pressure to make a man go crazy. You know what I'm saying? And one thing that our sisters really need to understand is that, man, we are oppressed in this motherfucker Like man men are oppressed Like and I get it Women go through a lot too, y'all do.
Speaker 3:We got to get out here in this work field. Yeah, you out here. My mother didn't raise me like that. My mother, the man, take care. You know what I'm saying. He take care of all of. I'm saying take care of all of it. They take care of all of it and everything. I get that but, and have no worry, do you good we in the 21st century, though so things and these brothers are still teaching 8th century stuff.
Speaker 2:I get that, but things is different and the cost of living is different. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:the cost of living is different, then that should make you go harder. I don't feel like it should make you unlimit yourself it should make you push and get these businesses going, and all of that that's what I?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't feel like that. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I ain't going hard for nobody. I ain't going hard for nobody. It ain't going hard for me, it ain't happening.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's what I said. The house cleaning. Food is cooked. I look good, I cook my own damn food.
Speaker 2:I clean my own damn house If you want a massage.
Speaker 3:Sometimes, sir, I'll give it to you. You ain't got to worry about it. Whatever other stuff, you ain't never got to ask me, I'm in it. But let me tell you about a woman if you're not providing that way to keep a peaceful place for her I don't know about all of it, I'm talking about me, but I'm saying you ain't providing that Like it, it, it, it, nothing, but then something ain't right, something ain't right, I don't know. I'll take care, I'll take care of you and I'll take care of me and I'll help out when I need to. You know what I'm saying. I've never, ever, be in a relationship and he feels something like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But it wasn't an always thing. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't a constant thing. You know what I'm saying. And when it became constant, my love was different. My love was different, and that's real. And because you applying're now you're gonna be a person, I'm still going these things and then come home when they stress and they ain't got, they're different beats and I'm still being patient and I'm giving you ideas and I even got the money. I'm helping you out and you still, you still, and most of the time. Nah, nah, bro, I love you different, but I ain't never gonna hurt you. I ain't never gonna do anything to you. I ain't gonna do none of that stuff. I ain't gonna rape and I'm gonna speak my mind. I don't can't take that. I don't can't take the real I'm giving you, real. I'm telling you, go harder for me. You told me that I'm a prayer answer. Now you just going to tell me I came from God, I don't die.
Speaker 2:But see, this is the thing, and it's because of my prayer for you. You don't mean that you was a blessing, though I'm a blessing, I don't know about nobody else.
Speaker 3:I'm a blessing.
Speaker 2:I don't know about nobody else, I'm talking about five in your mind, yeah, but you might have not been a blessing from the most high.
Speaker 3:You might have been that man's punishment, and I'll bet you not none of no, I'm just saying, like, let's just be real.
Speaker 2:We can be real, though, like, let's just be real. Like the most high works in this mysterious ways, a man prays.
Speaker 3:Oh, everybody prays in a lesson. It was a lesson, that's real talk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I get that. But everybody like I just don't feel like everybody that comes in your life is a blessing, or if you pray for something or something like that. I don't feel that way.
Speaker 3:I don't know what kind of prayer. They all blessings, even if it ended up and it a blessing, thank you, because without this I already know I didn't want this. I ain't afraid to walk away. I ain't afraid.
Speaker 3:If it ain't aligned in my spirit, if it ain't equally yoked in my spirit, I'm gone. I'm not going to hurt you. I'm in a point where I want to raise my voice at you. I want to be disrespectful to you, and it's not in my nature to do that. This is what I'm asking you, sir. I don't want to pay no bills. I don't need to pay no bills. This is what you said. I need a break. I'm out in the world too, I'm in these environments I can't take you to your mom's kids.
Speaker 2:We don't need to be out here working amongst these men in this environment.
Speaker 3:I'm cool.
Speaker 2:If you want that, then go back to your father's house For real.
Speaker 3:And if I could, I would If I could go to my father's house and a lot of people will say because I don't drive right? And they say, well, you know, right now I need to drive. I've been learning, I've been learning. You know what I'm saying, whatever right but I had men that took me because they were about my safety. They didn't want me on the bus.
Speaker 3:They didn't want me on the bus, they didn't go work harder so I can have, I can stay at home and I didn't, hey, go back to school. You're back. This is you yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, oh, like that's servitude, enslavement that's slavery man, I'm not always home.
Speaker 3:I went to college I got degrees, I mean, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So like yeah, like uh-uh, but I was first though yeah, I get that, but I, I just man, I don't know man, I I gotta have, I gotta peace, and I got to be happy too. And me just working and working and working and killing myself, that ain't me happy man. I don't think I want to move like that, and that's why I say go harder.
Speaker 3:I didn't say work more, I said build businesses. That's what I said, man.
Speaker 2:But that's still me putting myself into something, and energy and all that stuff like that. That's stuff that I'm still sacrificing for somebody else.
Speaker 3:I totally get it, but what I'm saying is go harder again. I feel you're limiting yourself, because go harder the brain and I'm not go harder, have a business, so you ain't got to worry about working hard all these hours and then you could live the life that I feel that you, we go, go back to your daddy house, I mean most but my father didn't let me get on the bus.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but most, most. But this is the thing see if my father treat me like that but see, this is the thing, and a lot, of, a lot of people bought me groceries and brought the groceries in the house.
Speaker 3:That's your daddy. That your daddy. You didn't want me to lift the bags. That's your daddy. Why would I want love? You're supposed to be my rib.
Speaker 2:You're supposed to be my help meat, Not my hindrance. My help meat. Why is it a hindrance? Because you've got to pay the bill. Think about it no, no no, no, it's a hindrance, because Now I'm not only because I'm thinking about your safety and everything else that's going on around me and everything that I have to do. I got to think about like up in my soul and I got to think about a lot of more things, and that's where the stress, see you say oh, don't be stressed, but it has stress.
Speaker 2:I get it, but see, this is the thing, not a lot of them would do that. Not a lot would do that, not a lot of who Come on now.
Speaker 3:You went to the same field level.
Speaker 2:You're talking about paying the bills. I don't understand If we on the same playing field.
Speaker 3:we got to be out in the world too.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say this sis, there is no sister that I ever met that ever made or was ever financially set like I was or was stable like I was.
Speaker 1:I don't know what kind of women.
Speaker 2:No hold on, hold on. That was making the type of cash that I was.
Speaker 3:So I could never ask you to be like okay, you pay, I'm a queen, no that I'm not doing that, and but this is my thing more money than them, and I never made.
Speaker 2:This is the thing, and I'm gonna say this we gonna get back on topic, because this topic is something else, but I'm gonna say this there is nothing wrong, but you getting out and making it happen and doing what you're doing, because think about this what if something happens to me? I need to depend on you.
Speaker 3:Hold on, I need to depend on you. Maybe you're talking about parts that I said because I said me I went to college. Also, they were encouraged to get. I worked in welfare, I worked in social services, I worked in mental hospitals. I get that what I'm saying. And home was never a slack and it wasn't like forcible that I had to to make ends meet. You know what I'm saying. So we gonna rewind, cause I agree with that part or whatever. You know, something happened to you. You have to be able to take care of yourself and all. My father encouraged us to go to school and different things. I don't know what kind of work. I don't know what you're getting out of what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:No, I hear what you're saying, but we just having a conversation and it's just, you know, difficult. Yeah, we are still.
Speaker 3:You don't have to reiterate that we're having a conversation. I'm aware.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But what I was saying is that we it's just like you know you you're giving your perspective, I'm giving mine what I'm saying, because you're picking out and you're saying only one side of thing. I'm covering the whole area. What I'm saying is, if we're on the same level, okay, and as you're saying that we supposed to be in the 21st century, then you reading Old Testament, how are you applying that? Are you picking what you want to apply, what God say, or whatever? Why are you limiting yourself, bro?
Speaker 2:Ain't nobody limiting myself. Ain't nobody limiting. I don't need to be a millionaire, sis, I don't need that I'm good with what I'm doing. My mother was a very meager and humble person. She lived very meager and humbly.
Speaker 3:Was your father in your life.
Speaker 2:Yes, my father was in my life and he lived meager and humbly too. They didn't need a lot to be happy.
Speaker 3:I could still live humbly and be a millionaire.
Speaker 2:I don't need that. I don't need that. I just want my peace. That's it. I just want to make sure that my children have something when I'm gone.
Speaker 3:That's all that matters to me, and I don't have to be a millionaire to make that happen I mean, I'm not saying that she can't own a business different things, I'm saying the mind that I have that, if this is how you know, it's one side of brother saying I want the women outside, we're going to protect them, and then, but then she got to help, uh uh, pay the bills and maintain the family and cooking can and this and that. But I'm saying that and then what I would tell me in my rationale is for men to provide more so they all can have businesses and not do the outside in the world or whatever, be outside in the world or whatever. And maybe she could provide businesses for other women so they don't have to have your own social services agencies and different things. That's just my perspective. I'm not limiting nobody, right?
Speaker 2:But I just don't feel like me personally. I don't feel like I'm not asking nobody to do half on nothing. That is not what I'm doing, that's not what I'm asking. But the biggest thing that I understand that when people are doing something and they're like working or have their own business, it's the social thing, it's being a sociable person, being there, having friends doing this, going places, experiencing life. If you're not just, if you're not just, if you just sit and stagnate and not experiencing life in many different facets, then why do I got to go help you? Why do I have to? Why do I have to be the one to finance you experiencing life? What on the accord or the account of me? Why do I have to be the one to finance you experiencing life? What On the accord or the account of me? And my health and me working and having that. You wonder why brothers come home.
Speaker 3:Hold on sis, hold on sis.
Speaker 2:See, I always say that I always say that, but at the end of the day it's like this. I always say that, but at the end of the day it's like this. It's a reason why we come home and we be on some other stuff, because we got to deal with the bullshit out there. Now, most men and it's cool, I ain't tripping, you ain't got to do this, oh, what's this and this and that Cool, but me personally, no, it ain't even that? No, it's not.
Speaker 1:It ain't even that, it ain't even that.
Speaker 2:It's just that I have a different. What I grew up with was my mother and my father was working and they helped and they worked together. They had shit, they built shit together and they did things together. They went on family trips, they took us on trips and it was good when they split.
Speaker 3:Hold on, hold on when they split.
Speaker 2:they split everything down the middle. Whatever, my mother was a nurse, a registered nurse, for 22 years 22 years. My father was a garbage man for umpteen something years and they built. I watched them build together. I watched them as a young buck.
Speaker 3:I watched them build and I watched us all right, the woman that you just described, you know building together and having, like your mom, had garbage men making good money, yeah, but made greater money. So what I'm saying is and y'all was able to go on family trips and different things. This is me describing myself. I'm not saying, and in the beginning I did say I ain't. You know what I mean, you ain't. I'm not sitting around on the hope and the wish and the dream. Get out there and get it. We working together, we working together, we working together.
Speaker 2:But if it's, all on me and see that's the thing and them brothers that do that it's weighing out, and then you want to put this tyrannical god on me. That's what I'm talking about yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying, because a lot of brothers do that and it is bullshit. I get it. I get it, but for brothers that have the same mindset as me and other brothers, that's trying to move.
Speaker 3:In a certain level, you can put money on me, bill bro, for Peggy. Bill bro, now, if I don't got it like that, if I ain't you, if I now, if I don't got it like that, if I ain't you know what I'm saying. Right, you could get it harder. I get it Because I got this. But see, this is the thing, check this out, I got this, you go, we good, we can go get it harder, especially if I'm I like to hustle from home. I'm, you know what I mean work from home.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's the perfect thing and I'm getting money for myself like I'm sewing clothes, I'm doing things. I've got a constant income in my own way. I'm good. I got my end on. You know what I'm saying and I ain't eating. That's me. I just want to say this I need the opportunity to do that. If you see it in me like bro, let's get this together.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about, so I ain't gotta be out there and this is what I'm trying to say it's the same hardships you have at work, what you think you're doing but see, sis, this is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2:Is that that's your reality? That ain't every?
Speaker 3:sister's reality but that ain't, we're not just talking about just me and you. I'm talking about me. I keep saying it.
Speaker 2:But this conversation is a broad conversation, not just about me and you and there's women out there like me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:But it's not a lot of them. That's the thing. It's not a lot of them.
Speaker 3:I don't know I attract sisters like me all the time.
Speaker 1:I get that, sis, I do A lot of homies is like me, blackness attracts.
Speaker 3:But the thing is, the thing is we go through the drama with the husbands and all that. I get that.
Speaker 1:You know y'all ain't heard from people when I'm we look at we see social media.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of sisters, I don't know where y'all looking, but we can't act like they don't exist.
Speaker 3:I ain't saying they don't exist. You keep trying to put that on me.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying that, you're not saying that yeah but I'm just saying In the beginning I said we was talking about the UPK brother, whatever alphabet, you know what I'm saying. We was talking about them and we was talking about the women on the street. You know what I'm saying. And all women couldn't be that like that, and I have grace. You know what I'm saying, just like I know we're in a disagreement, you even first. So you must have started feeling no, I'm not, I'm cool, I'm passionate anyway yeah, we chilling.
Speaker 2:I'm cool. I don't feel passionate about this conversation. We just talking. I'm just because, I know how.
Speaker 2:I know how this has been a big staple of in our community, that brothers and sisters, and it's good that we have in this conversation, because we both view it the same way and then differently too. I don't know how that happens and how it works, but it just works and it's just a beautiful thing with the most hour of praises. But what I'm saying is that you know, leah, I'm just like I don't feel no way. Sis, I'm chilling. I'm just here conversating with you.
Speaker 3:I'm saying that you know, I mean all the sisters, like some sisters like I would. I know this one job interview I went on. They didn't hire me, I said because in the interview they was like what you going to do? Because it was like going out and giving homeless people advice or asking them to go to a shelter or giving them some food or bringing them in for mental health services. You know what I'm saying. But the question they asked me if one of the homeless people jumped out on you at five o'clock in the morning when you were going to get up, or whatever, what would you do? I said first thing I want to know is my partner a punk?
Speaker 3:I'll use the word, but I wasn't knocking anybody in. That's Jersey talk.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. They're saying you got that life. I ain't saying I'm going to swing on them, but you're going to protect yourself. Yeah, if it's a woman that I'm with, what kind of person Can we talk about safety? Do I have to talk about safety, or are we?
Speaker 1:just eye to eye.
Speaker 2:Right, I got to know, eye to eye Right, and that's the crazy part I gotta know eye to eye because you're energy off.
Speaker 3:You might talk about it like that. I mean like I said that in an interview Like for real I'm serious.
Speaker 2:She said I said it in an interview.
Speaker 1:Hey see, this is why I got her as my host y'all.
Speaker 2:My co host. I'm telling you real shit.
Speaker 3:I was playing got her as my host, y'all my co-host. I'm telling you real shit, I was right. You know I mean the guy that I was interviewing what happened to be uh lgbtq and he was. He was open about it.
Speaker 2:I wasn't saying it like right I was coming for you when I oh, so he felt some type of way because you said punk they got all comfortable in the room.
Speaker 3:I felt it. I know that's why I didn't get the job, because I kept it a block. You want people to talk all this professional I'm still professional, but we dealing with realness. But we got to be fake. Like, okay, all right. My reaction might be like, oh you, okay, me, I'm the talking person. Like I didn't expect you to jump out, you okay.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Hey you silly, If you swing it, I'm going back up Like come on. Right, right I ain't going to put my weight on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, definitely, but you're going to protect yourself definitely.
Speaker 3:But I'm going to protect myself. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2:You also?
Speaker 3:learn when you work in mental health like how to take somebody down. I might have to take you down, right right, hey, that's a hey, see.
Speaker 2:you know what? See, we got multi-topics today, y'all. We just ain't about to stick on the same topic, I see.
Speaker 3:But see, this is the crazy part about that whole mental health job.
Speaker 2:Right, because I want to be out there with them Right, right, but check this out though, the crazy thing about the Right right. So check this out. The crazy part about that mental health industry, right, is that a lot of sisters are in that mental health industry. It ain't a lot of brothers in it and these sisters is learning how to take people down passively, oh okay.
Speaker 1:And knock their ass out.
Speaker 2:So that's why I'm like man I get that.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying it like that I'm coming at you, hold on.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That's learning at the job, I learned how to take somebody Right right, but that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:A lot of sisters had learned it there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was known not to mess with us because we would come just like that, maybe come out the house with a machete on.
Speaker 2:Right, but that was your reality. A lot of other sisters had learned it.
Speaker 3:That's why I'm still talking about me, me. I don't know again, I don't know all these other women, but I understand a punk when I know a punk. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 2:But what I'm saying is that? What I'm saying is that I'm generalizing that a lot of women have learned self-defense from mental health.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's sum it up, that ain't all the self-defense I learned.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying. I talked about it.
Speaker 3:You can listen to it again. But the whole real self-defense is talking somebody down before they even get it. Sometimes people ain't want to be heard, some people want to just be heard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was generalizing and I wasn't just talking about this one person. I was talking about a lot of people, a lot of sisters that I know too myself, that have learned self-defense and the mental health, and I'm like, well they, because, like I said, it's not a lot of brothers that's in that field and I always you said they get a takedown in a passive way. Yeah, but I always wondered why it wasn't a lot of brothers in that field Like we have up here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3:Men don't deal with their emotions. Men don't deal with their emotions. Men don't deal with their emotions. You see, a lot of men suffer mental health problems and don't even go to the doctors about their feet. So they really, and y'all don't let people, y'all try to not let people in emotionally, and so that's why they don't get the help and they don't work there.
Speaker 2:Well, sis, I'm going to say don't get the help and they don't work there. Well, sis, I'm gonna say this a lot of people, a lot of people that are not men, don't give a fuck about what men going through and our mental health.
Speaker 3:Well, I get that but just now, just now, today, on the way back after I seen the brothers right, I was going into the gas station to get um soda, whatever, right anyway. So it was a guy sitting out there he asking people for money. He might be, uh, getting a drug, he might be getting a drink, something to eat, whatever he out there, I can't imagine, you know what I mean, the way he is and whatever he got going through and what life um with the system. You know what I mean Making it harder. Women is making it harder with child support and men. You know what I'm saying. All these, you know a lot of stuff with men, right, absence of fathers, mothers that they really don't like Ain't the kind of woman that they want to be around, but sometimes they is. You know what I mean. There's a lot of single home mothers. You know families. These men is being raised by and being poisoned. You know what I'm saying In a negative way.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Because you done babied this boy, you done babied this boy and he don't know what it is to really, really be a man, and I ain't saying giving him love and taking him to school. And, Sean, I'm really. You made him your little man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your little man right.
Speaker 3:You made. That's all he. You know what I'm saying. And even with, and all the time, I don't know if it's from the single homes a lot of these people are saying these single homes with no fathers is why the boys are being homosexual. No, some boys, I knew you was gonna be when you was two years old. A feminine spirit. Yeah, you know that my mother molested. That's just who they are. Two years old, a feminine spirit. Yeah, yeah, you know some of them are molested. That's just who they are. Leave them alone. Stop trying to make them you. Maybe it's okay that they deal with their emotions and being free.
Speaker 3:Some people pervert it, though. Some people do pervert it because you see the femininity in that boy and you do evil things in the dark and you got a wife To a child Sickness. A lot of y'all don't need to go ahead and be on up to that and whatever demons y'all got. And some of y'all was molested by women when y'all was 12, 13. Your auntie's friend gave you hair at 12. They're supposed to be babysitting you. They're doing things to your body and you like that and that's why that's the feeling that you chase, because you were molested, even though you liked it, praising it, and not all boys liked it, even if it was from a woman. Woman and they don't make him gay that mean he didn't want to be violated. The feelings of violation nobody wanted a lot of. Y'all need to talk about that. That's a sickness you need to erase, that y'all glorify. That's why y'all quit to call these women hoes, for who you was laying with. And then you called her a hoe, you lying with a fool. Why y'all not mad at these girls.
Speaker 2:That's a mental illness. I get that, but this is the thing. Like me, and we ain't the. That's a lot of brothers that deal with a lot of things like right, but we were taught not to show our emotions by the very women that say nigga, you ain't emotional, nigga we, we would. We've been taught by the same women and then after outside of the woman that taught us, now we're out in the world and women are teaching and telling us I don't give a fuck about what you're thinking about, I don't care about that. So, after you done heard it so many times, it's like man. Now you just shut down like man, whatever, all right, and it's a lot of good women that will listen and does care.
Speaker 2:And for the sisters like you and other sisters out here, that's like that I love y'all. Keep on pushing, because may is man's health, man's mental health month. They changed it from june to may. Y'all didn't know that. They changed it from June to May. Today is man's mental health month. So those sisters that do care, I big up to y'all, I rock with y'all, y'all my sisters. I love y'all. Hey, let's do it, let's build a nation and be better and help a lot of these brothers come up out of that, I'm glad I'm just blessed.
Speaker 3:That's why they need me. That's why it's a fire For real for it.
Speaker 2:Hey silly.
Speaker 3:And that's why I always got along with men and there wasn't nobody. And one time, you know, I ain't with all guys growing up, right.
Speaker 1:All brothers.
Speaker 3:I was the one that was outside talking like I'm talking to you now, and that's why I say you don't know me. I had a group of them going to the mosque or wherever to go into the temple. Wherever I was going, they was going.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Wherever I was going.
Speaker 2:Yes, Well, if we had more women that had the sensibility and the awareness.
Speaker 3:Because a lot of women walk around without their awareness. I'm also saying I'm aware of the mental health.
Speaker 2:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3:I, you know, even I saw. But I also seen guys do weird stuff, the women that cause mental health. Yeah, okay, I seen my neighbor brought you know what I'm saying Some girls. They had paper bags on their head, yes, with holes, eye holes cut out for them.
Speaker 1:Bam.
Speaker 3:They put paper bags on the girl's head. Ain't no way, bam, ain't no way, damn Ain't no way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that can definitely cause some kind of traumatic type of thing going on Like hey, bro, you put a paper bag on my head. Like we used to joke about that back in the day.
Speaker 3:No, they literally did it. They literally did it Like they never really did that, and they used to call girls that back in the day, but it never really did. And I was like what's butter heads? Everything, everything, uh, cute on her.
Speaker 3:So they looking at the body, they lusting, some things going on. You got mental health issues. Who I've seen? A guy? He was in a relationship with this woman. He was in love honey. He had his little maintenance job. He was, you know, nice looking guy, right, light skin. You know I'm gonna get a light skin. He was all right, you know no, but he was. He was a nice looking guy, he was right, right right he wasn't bad looking, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:He had the pretty tony hair, none of that, but he was light skin oh okay, tall guy had a job you know, nice car, little decent guy and he started dating this girl. She looked pretty decent, college, different things, you know what I'm saying. Had a little office job girl but she broke up with him and he lost his mind hmm, talked to himself what all kind of stuff damn, he was on that he ain't hurting nobody
Speaker 3:yeah, that's how you know, he in love, but he, yeah, he was in love, right, that love broke his mind. Damn, this is a lot of these guys. He ain't gotta have to look like them, but a lot of them is hurt cause the one that you wanted broke your heart or left you, cause you wasn't together or it ain't all gotta be. You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying Right, right.
Speaker 2:I ain't never went through that before man, I ain't never been in love so that, yeah, to be broke up with and then be like shattered behind this woman. Like I gotta go to work tomorrow.
Speaker 3:I was in love sick, like you know, but that's why we got together, yeah that's deep because also I'm doing I know what kind of woman. You know I was married a few times, but it was long intervals. You know what I mean. I was married years and all that stuff, but there was long intervals. You know what I mean. I was married years. Mm-hmm and had children, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:And you, you, you wild, you wild, you wild.
Speaker 3:Hey, one time I came home, my husband uh doing way off because I had got a fur. Honey, I did, I got me a fur. Oh, you had a fur yeah, I got me a fur she had the fur y'all I had a fur wearing it with my car.
Speaker 2:Yes, what, what, what type was it? Was a mean, was it a?
Speaker 3:It wasn't real, but to me it was about a million dollars. That thing looked so beautiful on me, Was it white it wasn't a real fur.
Speaker 2:What color was it? Black Black. Oh, you had the black fur. Yeah, that was that I had a black fur.
Speaker 3:But I you know I was, I got dressed, I took off my garb and stuff that I had on my fur, okay. And so his boys went back and said he was like, yeah, if I was downtown she had on her fur. She was outside chilling in front of, but I wasn't trying to flirt with nobody or nothing.
Speaker 2:Right, he was just out there parking lot pimping. I get it.
Speaker 3:I was looking, yeah, looking. Just letting you know I'm looking like a little sump. You think these brothers don't want this good boy. You silly, I ain't slouching nobody.
Speaker 1:I ain't all sexy I ain't doing all that.
Speaker 3:I'm a little bigger, you know what I'm saying. You just enjoying the vibe. Yeah'm a little bigger, right? You know what I'm saying. I'm doing all that.
Speaker 2:I'm just chilling you just enjoying the vibe. Yeah, I get it Right.
Speaker 3:But they went back and told me you know, he came to the house. He took away all my clothes except for all the black he took away. I came home for work. I'm working at the welfare office. I come home for work. I'm like I'm working at the welfare office, I come home for work. I got nothing in my car except for all black. I'm going to a funeral. We going to a funeral. Call back.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, was he that insecure or was he just that jealous Like what was going on with the brother?
Speaker 3:I think he was jealous. Yeah, of course, but hey man, it ain't secure because you're doing things bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So he had to be doing something for him to act like that. You're doing things, mm, she's doing things, guys, so, uh, so still, I went out there, you know, doing nothing like that, but it ain't hard to get married.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:It ain't hard to get you know out of you, know what I'm saying and get to something better.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:And I had to tell them, like I'm not out here doing nothing, you thinking any brothers ain't coming over here. They see your house clean, y'all got food cooked, large TV, you can watch games, watch the fight flags at your house. And then they say yo, wait a minute, my wife come over here and tell me what that mean. They see what's going on.
Speaker 2:They see, and they probably ain what's going on right here. They see, yeah, and they, and it probably ain't even going on in a house. Yeah, you're messing up.
Speaker 3:Man, you're out here trying to find another wife and I ain't mad, I wasn't even against polygamy. I was not against polygamy.
Speaker 2:Right, but done in a right manner.
Speaker 3:Yeah, done in the right way, but you know I mean you go and way, but you know what I mean. You go and get this real straight, because you know what I mean. You got you. You. You know what I'm saying. And I don't like him. And he's saying he got this job at night. And once I Spirit told me answer the phone and it was a woman, no push redial on the phone and I did and she, he didn't give her his real name, this kind of stuff. I didn't give her real talk. Hey.
Speaker 1:So, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:She didn't even know his real name. Nope, why did you repeat everything I'm saying? Because, no, because I, because I'm like I'm flabbergasted.
Speaker 3:Yes, he didn't know. He gave a Fugazi name. He's still trying to lie. He was like you lying. I told you I went to college and he was like I told you about doing that psychological stuff. You may be going to school for that, but you ain't. I was like what? I was like you what. That's what she said. You said you going to work.
Speaker 2:He's sliding over there.
Speaker 3:We're giving him money to pay them bills, because he told her that he hit the kids while I'm at work. That's what he told her.
Speaker 2:So she knew about you.
Speaker 3:She didn't know about me. He didn't tell her he had another wife.
Speaker 2:Oh, he just said that he had somebody, that you was the one that watched. Niggas can't even lie right? Niggas can't even lie right.
Speaker 3:It's all good for a bit. I mean, I found out everything. You know what I'm saying. The spirit told me open this book bag. He told me open this book bag. I swear Right. I was like, well, who this? It was a receipt. We got her some earrings made. Her name is here the nigga had the receipt in his book bag here yeah, but that's what he's going to pick up, whatever. Like you know what I mean. He just like who he is how long ago was this?
Speaker 2:how long? What year was this? Like you're doing too much no, because I can't, because because receipt like. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, well shit man, if it wasn't we in a digital era, why do you even go for paper receipts? You?
Speaker 3:know back in the day when you get the little heart earrings or you get your name earring. They do it out on a receipt. So what 90s?
Speaker 2:2000 yeah, we were in went digital era. So, yeah, yeah, he's still stupid for putting in his book.
Speaker 3:But he's stupid yeah, why you ain't destroyed you know I mean he was with it, whatever he was teaching. That's what he had a little stance. You know what I mean. Outside, you know what I mean. Some of this stuff, you know. I mean I'm supported. I you know what I mean. You know what I mean. I thought it was dope. When I met him, the only thing he knew how to do was sell drugs. He said that's all he ever did. So I said you need to apply that hustle in another way, won't you go do this? And I said and I couldn't make this up but he still tried to call me every once in a while asking if I was still married. Am I married?
Speaker 2:trying to get back that's one thing I could say. I don't think I could go backwards. I don't know one out of my life. That's probably the only one. I don't know one out of my life, but that's probably the only one. But no, I don't think I could because, like man, that's crazy. So when man, I have so many questions, I swear I got to keep on remembering that this is not an interview. It's not an interview. I got so many questions I swear I gotta keep on remembering that this is not an interview. Like it's not an interview. I got so many questions, I swear I do. But but and it's like, yeah, it's like personal, like personal, but we'll chop it up. I got questions.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know what I'm open? Yeah, but you guys felt like I was being interviewed in an earring, so what year was this?
Speaker 2:That's why I had to come up out of interview mode like hold on, because I'm like I wanted to know what you said Because you multitasked it or you taking notes? No, I'm listening. But this is like when I'm dealing with people and I'm doing a podcast. Like I'm listening, I'm thinking like you say something, and whatever you say, if it sticks out to me, I repeat it and then I ask the question. Off of that repeat and repeat that repetition. So it helps me to stay focused on what I'm, what I want to say.
Speaker 3:It's like a whole interview, huh.
Speaker 2:You said a whole energy. I don't have to hide Huh I don't have to hide. I don't have to hide, I'm open yeah, I get it, but I, yeah, we'll, we'll have that conversation, we'll have that conversation. But I, just, I was just like man, like he laughing in the book bag though, like bro, like what, what's you thinking like? And I know like, when you say, like the little earrings, customized earrings, you get, yeah, you, they write the receipt out and out back he's like what the?
Speaker 3:fuck, like what was he thinking? I'm telling you, that's what happens, real talk and that that's deep.
Speaker 2:I tried a little to make me think, like Real talk, man.
Speaker 3:That. That, mm. That's deep. I tried a little polygamy thing, like I mean you know she's going to be the other wife and all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And at that time in my life I ain't really was in it like that For real. Right, I understand that it's a beautiful thing. I understand that building communities and, from an Islamic perspective, I understand the worldly perspective. I understand that a woman can only have one man's child and men can water many seeds. You know what I'm saying, so I get that. You know what I mean. I get it from a scientific way. I get it from a community way. I get it, however. You know what I mean. I get it from a scientific way, I get it from a community way. I get it. However, you know what I'm saying With that. You know what I mean. He could have went about it in the right way. He had to start out even with her, with lying.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:He had to start out with me with lying Because we talked about polygamy. That was one of the conversations we had before we even got married, so I didn't have a real heart about it. If that's my sister in love, then it's all love. Like, if I'm not a good man, like why wouldn't I want that for my sister? That ain't nothing.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying we can cook together we can eat together. It ain't really.
Speaker 3:I ain't jealous when we kiss you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:He told us to kiss you. That's a real shit, right? That's the definition of love, y'all.
Speaker 3:I love you. I love you. I ain't high on this. That's in the most high. We doing this in the most high. This is what God say why? Wow, I got something. I ain't feeling no type of way, but when you bring a hood rat home, when you bring an expert, she still sneaking eat bacon sandwiches at lunch when you ain't around home.
Speaker 2:You said she still sneaking, eat bacon sandwiches.
Speaker 3:I understand the spirit of her and Alana with this, what we got. Why don't you just listen to me? This is not from jealousy. I'm telling you what it is right. This is who you married to. We can talk about this, and you ain't even. You ain't even paying everything around here. You ain't making sure I'm good around here. Why you trying to add on to it? Are you gonna get? We ain't doing those future plans. I'm planning to get this done. We was breaking that same plan and it didn't happen. Get that, so you ain't gotta have her struggling, right?
Speaker 3:and, I think, a lot of people don't know if she got bread. There ain't no way that you know, sometimes we might not have no bread. You know what I'm saying, but she ain't talking to me in the negative way about my husband. Right, we need to go ahead and get some more bread so he can get us both some bread. How we gonna help him do that.
Speaker 1:Hmm, how we gonna help them do that.
Speaker 3:Hmm, I don't know if we all come together like that, he gonna have money anyway. You need some money, bro. You need some money. You want some money. You just wanna to be king. Yeah, I'm cool, I'm cool the queen is always protected on the board. She just moves how she moves but, everybody on the board protects the queen.
Speaker 3:How are you doing that? Because you, you wouldn't be. You know what I'm saying? You letting everybody into your kingdom, but you ain't really secure. You doing this from a godly place okay, we can raise, it ain't even no competition. You doing this from a godly place Okay, we can raise this, but she won't. It ain't even no competition. Honey, that's your life. It ain't got nothing to do with me. At the same time, it got something to do with me. You're going to bring that energy home. Is that an energy that we want? I don't want that energy. It ain't got to be from jealousy. It ain't none of that. I got married again. I got a husband. The girl called me ugly.
Speaker 3:She said oh you ugly. That's what she said to me Coming into it. Oh damn. Called me one night and she said every time he comes here we up. I said why didn't you tell me that? Why didn't you tell me that?
Speaker 1:Right, what was her? Thing?
Speaker 2:What was your reasoning behind that Slim Like click.
Speaker 3:I gave her something to sit on and marinate on. I gave her something to sit and marinate on, but she also got mental health issues when he wanted to leave. She come looking for him. She got guns looking for him what but that's his karma.
Speaker 3:That's what he needed. That's what he didn't want to listen to. He wanted to have his lowest self got him, and one of his wife was sneaking off to get his other wife and all that. You got exactly what you deserve, bro. You ain't never going to elevate, bro. You ain't never gonna elevate out of that. You ain't never. That's the kind of woman that you wanted and you stuck with.
Speaker 3:I'm good, I don't need nobody popping up in my house following me in the car. That's the kind of woman Guys you can get in the car he taking me. You understand, I've been through things in life. I'm going to mental health services about things that's going on in my life and he was an advocate for you. Hold on. I'm talking about not you, hold on, but what I'm saying is she. That's what she said. He said you was crazy.
Speaker 1:Nah, whatever he said you was crazy. Nah, whatever he said you was crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he said I was crazy. That's what she said. I said yeah, I was like. Okay, she told her, I was crazy.
Speaker 2:That was venom.
Speaker 3:I said I'm crazy Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was venom all the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all the way, I'm crazy, but I ain't pulling up. Yeah, I'm not, but I'm going to talk about things that's going on in my life or went on in my life previous to him you know what I mean and getting it out in my own way. Meanwhile, help me get a business. You go sneak off. Get this crazy girl pulling up following me. See, that type stuff. Get niggas you go sneak off.
Speaker 2:Get this crazy girl pulling up following me. Man, see that type stuff. Get niggas in the pool face down Dead Like thin line between love and See y'all brothers, better stop this foolishness man thinking that y'all can have these two wives and treat them any kind of way and then you can just slack off. No, like the sister said, if you got two wives you got to kind of way and then you can just slack off. No, like the sister said, if you got two wives you gotta go double hard, my nigga.
Speaker 3:Hold on, y'all. Can't be no bitch-ass niggas. Can't be no bitch. Y'all, some bitch-ass niggas. These ones that advocate for a lot of y'all, that for polygamy is some bitch-ass niggas. Mm, mm and bitch ass and you want to marry and make somebody else your bitches. Some of y'all is just got sisters living in crazy house. One sister I know they was in polygamy. They ain't got no electric or what. It's a shell of a house. Two of them in the house together. Two of them.
Speaker 2:I knew a brother that had two wives and they stayed in a studio apartment. I'm like I went over there one time and I'm looking like where your other wife sleep at. He's like, yeah, this other room right here. I said nigga, this is your living room. Like this, your living room slash event room, slash congregation room, slash bathroom slash kitchen?
Speaker 3:Never. I don't want to be up under no broad all day, and that's abusive. That's mental health. That's a mental health issue. Okay, I get it with the polygamy. Come on now, bro. I don't care, go ahead. I want some mad at you. Go ahead. Matter of fact, I want some me time. Anyway, hey, go ahead though.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:I don't care, I ain't gonna be calling you. I'm so cool with my last ex. He went to in a week with his ex. I didn't feel no type of way. I wasn't jealous, I wasn't. That was my girl. I talked to her on the phone all the time. You know what I'm saying. In their house we spent a bit while no polygamy thing. Like I ain't no jealousy here. We cool, we cool. Like it ain't nothing. Usually it be dumb.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:But that's when the real stuff came out. You know what I'm saying, you know what I mean, but I'm just saying like I ain't, I ain't, they wasn't doing nothing crazy or nothing, but they, you know her real feelings like you know what I'm saying Right.
Speaker 2:So how do you feel about a lot of these brothers that that are in this, I'm going to say, in the Hebrew Israelite religion, that are in the Hebrew Israelite religion, that push that a lot, push polygamy a lot and push it like it's supposed to be the norm in our you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:like it has to happen. They got mama issues, they got, um, insecurity issues and, you know, talk like you could go get a sister and just take care of her. Give her some money once in the blue. You know what I'm saying. Maybe you only can afford an extra $100 to give away to a sister that you show interest in and wait until you get some more money. You know what I mean. Stop trying to fool your manlyhood and ruining yourself and ruining yourself Like they got. I feel they have. They're misguided. You got the right idea.
Speaker 3:A lot of these women that do have children it wasn't just them that had the baby. What about the guy that ain't around? You ain't looking at him. No type of way, right? You know what I mean. Some of these sisters do need an extra $100 from a brother that shows interest, absent of intimacy. You know what I'm saying. There's still polygamy in another type of way Helping around once a book yeah, I ain't giving a nobody note, but you see interest in her, but you want to cause harm, living in a studio apartment? Come on now You're the one that's, the only one that's benefiting around here, because I know as a woman we got to. That's why I said, so many men don't understand, when they got mama issues, they got woman issues.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Because you need to let a woman show you that this woman needs. She got a cycle, a different type of clock in her body and she needs her own fun to relax in. Sometimes we can get along. There ain't nothing about us getting along because we love you, bro. We're going to do what we need to do to make you happy. Get us out of this studio apartment, thanks.
Speaker 2:No, don't have us in the studio apartment in the first place From the beginning.
Speaker 3:That's why I say he be honest, just give her $100, $200 a month. Hey, I'm going to build myself up. I can't afford you, but I want you to know this is what I can afford. To me I'll be like ooh yeah, wait, wait, let me get you, let me get you Right, let me get you up together Right, and we can speak. I'll hold on for you, I'll hold on sugar and he's talking like that.
Speaker 2:That's real.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll hold on if you say you know what I mean. Like I told you, like I don't know, I'm just keeping it a bump. Like I asked you know he telling me he interested in marrying me and he has helped me out numerous amount of times.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying and I really I don't want to be. You know I was coming from homelessness. I don't want to go back to that and I'm not. But if I'm honest and I'm like, hey, I need this, I'm getting all my things, getting everything I need, like you know what I'm saying. I'm like, hey, I need this, I'm getting on my feet and get everything I need. Like you know what I'm saying. That cost everything, cost ain't nothing for you and I need an extra couple dollars to get to work. Like he just helped me out and he ain't have it. He ain't have it today. I had to pay this, I had to pay this, I had to pay that.
Speaker 3:Well, let's not talk about marriage and all of your fears of marriage. I fear that I can't do that. We've been friends for a long time and we've been friends, I'll say, 20-something years. We might just need to maintain that. And we've been friends, I'd say 20-something years, we might just need to maintain. And that I ain't saying like you know what I mean Like, and I'm being patient, like we've been cool, like for forever. Like if you already got in your mind you don't want the friendship to end and like it ain't never got to, but you already put it in your mind that it's going to. I don't want to deal with fear. I they never got to, but you already put it in your mind that it's going to. I don't want to deal with fear, I'll deal with faith. So this time you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:A lot of your brothers like you know what I'm saying y'all just got to go ahead and grab that stuff that you you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Make it work, right, make it work. And I ain't knocking he down y'all. You know what I mean. He might not just have it at this time, you know what I'm saying. And he's worrying about the friendship or whatever. Like I ain't going nowhere, like we going to be friends, like, but I ain't. I want somebody that's 100% strong. Don't come over here with that 50-50 stuff, right, give me 100. So a lot of these brothers' problem is they don't know what a relationship is. And you try to with the wrong ones. That put that devil seed in you. And now God is trying to see through with this woman and you just you got all these fears.
Speaker 3:That ain't got nothing to do with it, because I'm a blessing.
Speaker 2:But you can't. You can't follow brother for being, you know, apprehensive on certain things. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:I'm not talking about. It's not a fault. It's not a fault. I'm not faulting them. I'm not faulting them. It's not a fault. Right, it's not a fault. I'm telling you what I know for me. If I know, 100% sure that I ain't going to back you, I ain't going to. We still going to be friends. I'm telling you that. Do whatever. That's my word.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And you and you saying you don't want the friendship to mess up, then that's something you need to work out, but not on my time, not on my time, not in no relationship. See, we already got a relationship, we friends.
Speaker 3:You know, what I'm saying, but you ain't working that out. Your insecurities, you not working them out on me. You supposed to have that already worked out. I got mine already worked out. I ain't worrying about you talking to no woman or having a female friend or you know, because I know it ain't. You know what I mean. But if I tell you that she like you more, you know what I'm saying and she letting on, then you need to listen. That ain't jealousy speaking, that's real and I ain't telling you. You got to back up and with my little son we was so cool. He be like I know she like me, but I ain't into that. I love you and I was like I ain't you know. We was on the thing Like I don't got to, we ain't got to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:We be going in the room with somebody trying to you know what I mean he be like. I know he feeling you. That's the relationship I have. We laugh about it or whatever, and not like we knocking it, like you know what I'm saying, right, right, but whatever, ain't one insecure or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So I'm just saying, like a lot of them they be insecure already from something else. You ain't never heard of me.
Speaker 2:Try me, it's guaranteed, it's good, but you can't call it an insecurity if a man is apprehensive about just because he don't know you. I don't know you, so I don't. I can't put. I ain't talking about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get you, I get you, but I'm just saying, but still, I ain't saying for you but I'm saying for still trust yourself Not being apprehensive.
Speaker 3:You tell me I get you on that. I get you on that I feel the energy like yeah, trust yourself yeah, I feel you on that, and if it's something that you don't like, you can you can tell me yeah now that you put it like that, I feel what you're saying now yeah, trust yourself, yeah trust yourself to make the right, decision right that's what you're telling me already. You don't trust that you you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:You're telling me that already, so why would I proceed in that way? I love you still, but you know what I mean. If I got a dude like you know, we could talk with we never going to talk about no relationship again, because I'm good, I'm loyal to what I mean. You know what I mean. You know what I mean, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I know that that was it, but that you know what I mean, but I'm going to respect who I'm with, Right, but we can keep it like that, like friends, like that Like, and the one I'm with ain't going to be like I'm not going to cut off no 20-something year friendship yeah, even though he is here, but we never gonna talk about it like that.
Speaker 2:It ain't gonna be no awkward situation, right, right. Yeah, I feel you on that.
Speaker 3:I definitely feel you on that matter of fact, I'm in the room with my nine oh my ex, who? I ain't hot. I'm not hot. Why you gonna pick it up anyway, like, if you will, you know it ain't nothing like, come on hey, y'all you know what I man this has been.
Speaker 2:Uh, we, we went through a couple different topics and, you know, even had, you know, a little debate too, and it was a beautiful thing, the build was beautiful and you know, I appreciate the sister man because she keeps me on my toes, like definitely like keeps me thinking about different things, that you know that I need to check my cell phone, like you know what I'm saying, like, and to know that you know we got sisters out here, that's doing it. To know that you know we got sisters out here, that's, that's that's doing it, like that's putting a foot forward and putting their best foot forward with us and and not taking the bullshit from a lot of us, because a lot of brothers can put up, put up a lot of bullshit. I can't say I'm one of them, so you know I'm saying like yeah, for real like, Like man.
Speaker 2:I'm so big on self-accountability Because that's the only way I'm going to grow. That's the only way I grow, that's the only way I get better If I hold myself accountable first for the things.
Speaker 3:I do. But that's why I said to you I'm an open book where some people ask questions to judge. I ain't saying you, but just listen to what I'm saying. They judge. You know what I'm saying and how you ever going to grow without the self-accountability? You know what I'm saying and I ain't saying that I was the one and I ain't taught that. I ain't in that sense you know what I mean. But if I got something to say, listen to what I'm saying. It hurt me to argue with the one I'm with. It hurt to hurt me. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3:We can live in harmony around it does we can be able to talk about anything, bro. Like you said a little, but it was always love. I ain't like look who you talking to yeah. And I needed you to hear the love from me.
Speaker 2:You know what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying yeah, and that's why.
Speaker 2:I was like I wasn't mad or I didn't feel no type of way. I just was listening to you, because I yield to wisdom and good knowledge, I don't care who it comes from. Yeah, so I'm just. It ain't going to never be a situation. Even when we first met remember that time we were on the phone with the brother and you and him was going.
Speaker 3:I'm just sitting there looking like but that's how I knew I couldn't marry him. Well, no, I'm talking about the other brother and I was like, hey, bro, I ain't even turning on you. I was like I don't want to be disrespected like that, I'd rather just walk away and that's what happened.
Speaker 2:I just made sure that it happened. He called me and was like man, I'm just listening. You ain't even heard nothing yet. Both of y'all was just going and I'm like if we would have just sat down and listened.
Speaker 3:Nah, there was some arrogance in the room, Like he was. Like you know who I am, I was like I don't know whoever you are. This is what I'm telling you, what I expect, you're expectations.
Speaker 2:And I definitely, man. It was like and nobody was controlling us.
Speaker 3:But if I need to be controlled, we can talk about that Like, hey, if I know you're still doing that thing, do this thing. I'm okay with that. I yield to Will's wisdom, like you said. But he wasn't being wild. Nah, he wasn't, and it was coming from a woman's mouth, so that really angered him yeah, no, it was coming from a black woman's mouth.
Speaker 1:That's what it was I'm just gonna be real, I'm just gonna be real it was.
Speaker 2:It was coming from a black woman, a black woman and that brother, he, he stays. I did not go with him on him like that.
Speaker 3:I didn't cuss him out, I didn't call him out his name, it was all respect.
Speaker 2:That's why I didn't get it. What was he like? And I told him what was your problem, man? She ain't say nothing disrespectful to you, nothing like that. You just went off because he's one of those feminine-ass men that always yeah, man, the brother got mad at me.
Speaker 2:Man got on Facebook and defamated my character for a whole month and a half. I say this nigga, it's feelings like I ain't make not one post about him, didn't say nothing about him, nothing. Everything that I said to him was in the message, was in messenger or text I didn't get on social media, nothing.
Speaker 3:He. I know he was a bitch and so I had to. I I never stopped talking to you, yeah, definitely. I never turned that on, like. And then I like what kind of? And I did like what kind of? You know, I'm saying if you already knew all those, I don't know if you knew all those things about him, but I'm saying, like you see what it is, cut him off right, and that's why I don't fuck with him.
Speaker 2:But see, at that time I was like I was trying to like build a team and that's what I was on.
Speaker 3:I understand your heart.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he went the right Some things you need to see like and that's why we'll talk about how I try to make it like I'm. I don't even stop because I was washing clothes. I'm cooking. I got still cooked tonight. I got things to do. My day tomorrow is full like I. I, you know what I'm saying, but I gotta stop you. I love you. You know what I'm saying, even though you know we have different point of views. Yeah, I like that. You like my mind. I know that spirit works through me With this and the devil be trying to stop, but I still got to come through.
Speaker 2:I love you, oh yeah, I love you too, sister. We spit our truth. Yeah, definitely that's what we do on the Spit your Truth Podcast BFI. Okay, bfi, bitch of Truth Podcast B and.
Speaker 1:Fah Okay, b and Fah, I say Fah.
Speaker 3:Yeah Right, it's a B y'all, but I say, but you saying Y'all, fatima, fatima.
Speaker 2:I say it like Real, proper, like Fatima, fatima.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you Everybody, everybody gonna say my name different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I be trying to Like pronunciate Every syllable Like. You know what I'm saying, because I know that it's not an American name, so I'm trying to pronunciate it the way it's pronounced American way.
Speaker 3:They say Fatima, yeah, fatima, fatima. Hispanic Fatima, arabic Fatima, fatima, fatima. Guys with knowledge in Fatima yeah, fatima.
Speaker 2:The guys with knowledge in Fatima. Yeah, fatima, that's how I was pronouncing it first Catholics say my name Fatima. Fatima, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like you said, Fatima, it's what my brother said. That way Everybody. I can tell a little bit about your background by the way you say my name.
Speaker 2:That's beautiful man. All praise. I remember, and I'm going to say this y'all, because the sister got a long day today. I'm off, so I'm up. I'll probably go Uber or something like that, but I don't want to hold my sister up because I know she got to see me too tomorrow. Nah, nah, nah. I know that you, I'm a considerate person, you know, even though I want to sit here and build more. But I just know that you know you got to do your thing and I want to get you stuff because I'm a considerate person. I love you sister. I want to make sure that you succeed in any and everything that you do, so.
Speaker 3:I got a final message huh. I got a final message oh okay.
Speaker 2:Well, let me say this before you say your final message. Then we go close out. Hey, this, I'm gonna let y'all know this, just because me and my co-hosts have different opinions, different views, and that's what makes us work. That's what makes us work. That's what makes us work, because if we agreed on everything, then this shit would be boring as fuck.
Speaker 3:Like it would be boring, but we do agree.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we agree on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, we do agree and we disagree.
Speaker 2:And that's our. That's our, that's our. What is that? What they call it, how you say it?
Speaker 3:The dysfunction, no, that's the function.
Speaker 3:Because, like in the beginning, of the conversation when I was talking about God created the devil, so, and the angels and us, or whatever, like it's not only one way. You know what I'm saying. It's all ways that people get to God. You know what I'm saying. Or the all ways that people get to God, right, you know what I'm saying. Or the most high, or however you say Universe, higher vibration, whatever you say, you say, right, like there's many ways. You know what I'm saying and we, sometimes people disagree, but if they really listen to the love of the most high, you can see it in anyone. It's many names. You got many names, many names. She got many names.
Speaker 2:So go ahead and hit us with that final message and let the people know what they need to know. Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Alright, so we're going to wind it up. I don't know, I ain't been on that, okay. So my final message would be talking to you, looking to you, because there's a lot of things we talked about that you can't the alphabet for us, a lot of y'all need to work on your feminine energy. You know what I'm saying. On the opposite end and the higher vibration of it, you know what I'm saying. That's why we on this, uh, mother's day weekend, you know a lot of a guy real quick. He had said um, he was like he started laughing. It's like his mother's baby. He said y'all get all the love when father's day come around, y'all be like I'm a father too. Y'all you know I'm saying. A lot of women have been the father. You know what I mean and I get it. It's a lot of absent fathers. You know what I'm saying. I get it, but stop disrespecting these brothers. But if they need some love and you need to talk to these brothers and tell them to get right, it's a way to do it, and the brothers need to stop talking to these women Like the guy posted on Facebook.
Speaker 3:I ain't like, I read it because I you know. I mean. He said man eating the coochie. Good, but it's the smell that bothered me, the after smell. I said well, why would you eat a coochie that had an after smell? That was the first. You know what I'm saying. Second, you know what I'm saying. Like, you really don't like women, bro. Some of y'all, like you, know what I mean. I love that smell on my face. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. It's supposed to have that smell. You know what I mean. That's what it does. But they don't have to have a smell. That's. That's the pheromone. It should. I can't wait for a pheromone. It should be light enough just for you to smell. But if it's not like that, maybe you need to take a shower, bro, a real one that your mama didn't know how to teach you everything. You know what I'm saying. Like, maybe another man needs to tell you how to really get clean and a woman needs to teach her how to.
Speaker 2:Well, you know what I mean so the final message of the day is get yourself togetherall self together Right.
Speaker 2:And trust in the most high, definitely first and foremost. But get yourself together and show love, because if y'all didn't see out of this whole build, if y'all didn't get anything out of this whole build, y'all got the fact that we, that it's love. It ain't no malice like like after this out man, me and his sister probably chopping up for another hour. So I'm saying, like it's love, and y'all have to understand that, that we have to put the love first. We have to lead with love.
Speaker 2:That's the only way that we don't want everybody because everybody don't love like how I love you, right you're right.
Speaker 3:but I said I was at the gas station. I shook the guy's hand. I didn't get to that, I went somewhere else. But I shook the guy. He was a homeless guy. I was like what's your? Name. You know what I mean. I shook his hand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And he looked at me like you really going to, oh yeah, yeah, I feel you on that. Yeah, everybody loves it. They need it. You know what I mean. They need this love for women, but not in a sexual way, right, just just that support and that speak that life in a man. You know what one thing, man, I remember. I remember when I was at this truck stop. This was probably like about 8, 9 years ago. I was at this truck stop and I came in and the cash register lady just was like hey, hey, how you doing, hey, handsome, and was like I hope you have a nice day.
Speaker 1:This and this and that it was just real nice to me like and I still remember this because that shit resonates- with me, because that shit, that shit resonates with me.
Speaker 2:We remember that shit forever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. So man, it'll be in a sexual way, Like, wow, you look really nice today. Right man Like hey, like hey, you look good, hey honey.
Speaker 2:Your cologne smell good. Yeah, just anything. Man like yay, you look good. Hey, honey, your coat, your cologne smell good. Yeah, just anything. Man like we we get, we, we love to get that. Uh, we look just like y'all, we love them. Compliments, I eat that shit. I ain't gonna lie like because it, because half the time, man, I'll be feeling like I ain't like you know, like I'm just gonna be real y'all, like I'll be feeling like I ain't that nigga, like I ain't the shit, like I ain't this like so just to hear it like I don't know, you know, but come on, you know, somebody needs to tell you that, like hey, won't you?
Speaker 3:uh, all right, real talk, all right. All right, I gotta go back. I'm like man, I'm telling you that somebody needs to put that into you, right, because Real Talk is this big dude. Right, he's big, like he's bad. You know what I'm saying. He a big guy, big guy, right, right. But he to me he's like he ain't got room, like he don't wear no pants. It probably make him look like he pull him up. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But he wears pants, sagging, they look nice. He got a long shirt. You don't see, you know what I mean. Like he big, like big, pun, big, like he big. But he fly To me. You know what I'm saying and I me, you know, and I'll be. I I asked, I'm like where it is. You know what I'm saying. I'm asking them questions because I mean to me, you know me, you know reality, big guy, the stuff you know run through my mind in other ways, you know yeah, I get it but I'm saying, you know, because I you know about, you know I'm a big girl like well, how are we going?
Speaker 3:I run through my mind like how are we? You know about, you know I'm a big girl like well, how are we going? That went through my mind like how are we? Well, I don't want to test child. Maybe I don't want to test.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying I get it I I don't know, so I just know like but I'm telling, I mean like I make sure I tell them because I know people probably just looking at the weight, I make sure, like yo, you look good today, you look real nice today. You know what I'm saying? Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't know, I don't feel I get it. I get it. Self-confidence is good and I got a little. I ain't the most confident person, like when I was younger I was, I was conceited like cocky to the point Like, but now it's like I got older and shit, like it's like man I ain't. I don't know, I don't know I don't know, I don't be feeling like I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm serious man.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 3:I feeling like I'm not seeing it. I don't know. I guess when I was younger, I don't know, I didn't care about my appearance. You know I did, but I didn't. You know what I'm saying and I had my own way. You know what I'm saying. I started to find my way. You know what I mean. Right, and I just I didn't love myself like I love me, but have I not gone through that, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. You know what I'm saying, so I wouldn't pour that to you. If you used to feel, you know what it feel like, get it back there.
Speaker 2:I don't know how to well, I'll speak life into you.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Get it back there. I don't know how to well, I'll speak life into you. You know what I'm saying, you know, but you gotta speak it into yourself. It's more powerful within. It's only birth and beginning. And don't tear yourself down, see, start telling yourself the beauty that you see around you. So that's the beauty that came from you.
Speaker 2:It's nice to know that somebody like notices that you see around you. So that's the beauty that came from you.
Speaker 2:It's nice to know that somebody like notices that you know hell yeah notice a motherfucker like I don't want to be like this, a motherfucker that just walk around, I'm invisible to everybody, like shit, kinda hurt man. But it is like before I even get emotional or anything or even start talking about how I truly feel about shit, we go in this shit right now Because we is not about to go there, I already feel myself taking somewhere, going somewhere. I ain't, but I'll pray to the most high y'all.
Speaker 3:Well, look you talking about emotion. You just about to get in your feelings.
Speaker 2:See. I'm in tune with my feelings. I'm not that type of brother that won't cry, won't tell you how I feel about shit and won't be angry or sad or scared.
Speaker 3:They say that in the net.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying man, it's just time and a place. You know what I'm saying, but I'll praise to the most. How to Suspicion Truth Podcast. Man, it's been a beautiful deal with my sister and my co-host, fatima, fatima, fatima. I'm going to say what the fuck? Because that just hit different, that just hit a whole lot different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what the fuck Right.
Speaker 2:I remember when I first met her she used to hit us with that what the fuck Boy? I used to be weak as hell because she'd do the little video and then at the end it'd be like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? Yeah, man, I'll praise man. It's a beautiful thing. Man, we gonna give y'all more of these, man. Y'all go get more of them.
Speaker 3:Remember, you know what. I want to pause too, because earlier he was talking about the arguments, but it was two times. He was a witness of the men acting crazy. Yeah, Would our brother go? Shy y'all.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I witnessed and I miss my bro. Rest in peace. But yeah, I witnessed something that it was just like and I had to tell that brother like man, you foul bro, oh you know, like he been held, been held and I had to break it.
Speaker 3:And I still showed him love after that. I was talking to him before and I still was like where you at you, big belly, I like big bellies man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't at that time. He was just out for to see how he but he's not in a situation. He was trying to get out of a situation and be in a situation where he was safe and had a place to stay and he was just like, yeah, he wasn't stable, so it a stable man, stable body, ain't a stable man, so he ain't gonna have stable thoughts. You know what I'm saying? That's what we got.
Speaker 2:I miss him, man, when he died. Talk about that. I feel myself going there too. I miss my bro. I just wanted to know. I just wanted to talk to him. I loved him. I just wanted to talk to him one last time. I loved him. He died down in Louisville by himself.
Speaker 3:I talked to him when he was staying in the airport. He was working in the airport, yeah, yeah, yeah, rent a room in the airport and he was really pushing. And I talked to him when I think he was in Colorado and, um, I think he had a big heart, I mean, and he was, I was with him. That's how I met you, like you know. I mean he was like, yeah, you are like he loved part of me.
Speaker 2:He was shut part, yeah, like it's all love bro, like hey, I'm over yeah, I just, I just I feel bad about some shit and I just feel I just wish that it had went down the way it went down and I had more time for me, and that just let me know, and that just let me know, and that just let everybody know. Don't know when you gonna be gone one day you here, the next day you gone. Man, you don't know. Man, show love, keep love. Stop being on this bullshit. All this beef and all this dumb ass shit is worthless. Man, cause that might not be here tomorrow and your ass will be feeling like me stupid as fuck.
Speaker 2:This is spit your truth podcast. Your boy Abiyah and my sister Fatima D. What the fuck? He just spit our truth and hey, it's a beautiful thing. Y'all. Y'all better know that Wednesdays, every Wednesday, at 12 pm Eastern Standard Time, we got a new episode dropping. Check us out. We up to episodes 18 right now. Well, let me see, 16 is about to drop, 16 just dropped this Wednesday. 17 is next week, 18, and then we're going to keep on doing them, man, we just going to keep on doing them until the most high tell us to stop, because this is the truth that we spit and we got to let people know and we got to let everybody get their chance to do it. So if you want to get on here, hit me up, hit Fatima up and we'll get you on here and we will let you spit your truth. But just know, we might not agree with you, we might not agree with you.
Speaker 2:So don't come on here in your damn feelings, trust me. If you ain't in this feelings, I have a conversation, debate with you. The next day. You want to throw this joint up and smoke me. You know, I'm saying that's how I am, because I'm with me, being with me. But yeah, I don't smoke with everybody either, right?
Speaker 3:sometimes we, we, you gotta be mad at your opinion, but everybody don't feel like that. I'm good, right that's.
Speaker 2:That's what it is. But at the end of the day, I just know like, don't come up here on your in your feelings, because I'll go, let you have it like I'm I ain't gonna say nothing i'm'm telling you.
Speaker 3:I was around some, so they be like I ain't gonna say nothing, I'm gonna let her get it. Yeah, I'm gonna just step back and then you act up. You gonna get it from the other side and bop, bop bop every side, upside your head too.
Speaker 2:So y'all have a good night, good day. Well, it's 12 o'clock, it's probably like one, right so in the afternoon. So y'all have a good night. I just said that Y'all have a good evening, man. Hopefully y'all get home, drive safely, buckle up, keep your eyes on the road, stay focused. Make it home to your family. They need you, they need you. So make it home to your family, make it home to your loved ones and love them, because you don't know they will punch that damn clock. It's your boy. Spit Beer on the Spit, your Truth Podcast with your sister, my sister, patsy Mamadi, and we signing out y'all Peace, peace.
Speaker 3:Salam, assalamu alaikum.
Speaker 2:All that stuff, all that stuff, all that stuff, and a happy Pazdu too. Okay, like you can't say that, yes, I can. Pazdu, right, pazdu All right, y'all All right, peace, thank you.