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Ep 23 Roots Before Pills: How One Herbalist Is Reclaiming Ancient Wisdom: LC Yisrael

Abiah Season 1 Episode 23

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We explore the world of herbalism and natural healing with certified herbalist LC Israel, who shares her journey and practical wisdom about reconnecting with the earth's natural remedies.

• Transitioning from conventional medicine to herbalism as a way to care for family and community
• The connection between spiritual awakening and natural healing practices
• How modern society deliberately separates us from natural resources that could heal us
• Specific herbal remedies for common ailments like migraines, arthritis, and inflammation
• The importance of grounding practices like walking barefoot and spending time in nature
• Tips for growing your own herbs and vegetables even with limited space
• Why many health problems stem from inflammation that can be addressed through diet and herbs
• The concept that "if you can't eat it, you shouldn't put it on your body"
• Men's and women's specific herbal needs, including warnings about certain herbs
• How capitalism has created a health system that profits from illness rather than wellness

Find LC Israel on Facebook and her Etsy shop called Herbal Crown where she offers teas, hair oils, body butters, and other natural products for health and wellness.


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Speaker 1:

oh, praise to the most, how? What's going on y'all, man, we, we sleep back, we back. And you know, it's another wednesday and I'm feeling good, y'all. I'm feeling good about this one because this is something that I take a personal interest in. I really, really, really want to pick the sister's brain and we about to get into it, because we're going to spit that truth. And you already know what this is, you already know who this is.

Speaker 1:

But for those that don't know, and just tuning in to me, and you know, just fanning the podcast, this is your boy, ovea, and this is the Spit your Truth Podcast. We are hosted by, not on, but by the Set Apart Music Radio Station and, yeah, we got a special one today, y'all, like they all special to me, but this one definitely near and dear, because I feel like your sister has a lot of jewels to tell us, a lot of information, and we go, definitely, let her spit her truth. So, without further ado, I'm gonna introduce my sister, lc the herbalist. Hey, I'm telling you y'all, she she cold with it, and we about to pick her mind too, because she's a very well, well-learned sister. So, without further ado, go ahead, sister, you know, let the people know who you is and you know what you do.

Speaker 2:

Let the people know who you is and what you do. Praise, yeah. Shalom everyone. My name is Elsie Israel. I'm a certified herbalist. I've been doing this for about a few years now.

Speaker 1:

I'm a mother, a wife and yeah, I'm excited to get into this interview. Oh praise, oh praise. So you said that you've been doing the herb thing, the herbalist. You've been an herbalist for like how many years, you said.

Speaker 2:

Just a few years. I recently got my certification a year ago, but I've been dealing with herbs for yeah just a few years, like about three.

Speaker 1:

Hey, she be on the internet, y y'all whipping up the body butters. I'm like, is there anything your sister can't do? Like I'm saying like she just got all types of you know killing stuff for your body and topicals and tin trees. She did a juice the other day. It was like I got a perfect. I'm like I wish I could smell it. I know it tastes good, but what was that tea that you, that juice that you was making since? Was it a tea or a juice?

Speaker 2:

I appreciate that and it's a. It's actually a lemonade. I like to classify myself as a excuse me. I like to classify myself as a hobbyist, I like to just. I have this feeling that I just need to learn how to do everything the most priceless, but I feel always, and so I'm just really trying to figure out how to work with my hands in all categories of life. But specifically to answer your question, it was a hibiscus sour stop lemonade that I made and, funny enough, I sell at the farmer's market locally and it's the first thing that sells out every Wednesday and I'm like, oh my goodness, like I gotta now I gotta come up with more recipes and flavors for the people. But yeah, I'm so glad I was able to come across that and perfect it.

Speaker 1:

Alright, it looks and tastes good. I'm like man, I wish I could order this stuff. I want to, you know, order it. I love the earth. I love like pink trees coming from the earth. You know what the most the earth, I love, like pink trees. I love all this stuff like coming from the earth. And you know what the most. I told him to do like. So I'm all over it. And when I see brothers, especially sisters, because the sisters like y'all take a, y'all really take a like, take to it like more than us like, and and it's a reason why because the most I like put that in y'all's DNA to you know to be that type of you know Mother Earth, like, you know in tune with the Earth and everything that's going on. So it's a beautiful thing. So you said that, uh, so how long have you been in the?

Speaker 2:

tree Since for about five years now. This year will make five years. Yes, not too long. I'm still a baby lifting, so I'm definitely in the phase of finding my purpose as a woman specifically. So it's a journey.

Speaker 1:

It's a lifelong journey, yeah and you, uh, and you said this like five years, so how was it like making the transition? Like what was he? Was he like a christian or a rastafarian or what was like? It was like I was a rastafarian before I came.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah, and it is that very similar to uh hebrew?

Speaker 1:

well, in some ways they have like the Cabanastric that you see, and then they have the Holy Pippi and it was like a mix of Christianity and Rastafarianism, you know, and it was a little too much at times.

Speaker 2:

Do they recognize Yahweh?

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, okay, they know that they're the children of Israel and all that's good.

Speaker 2:

I got you.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay, they know that they're the children of israel and all that good got you. Okay, they just, you know, give praise to harry selassie, and I'm like, yeah, that's something I can't do, but you know, other than that, like I'm like the religion is, like, it's a clean living, like well, that's great.

Speaker 2:

Well, specifically about my background, um, background, I was born and grew up in Ghana and so, with Ghana being colonized by the British, of course there's a lot of Christianity there, and so we brought that here. And when I got into my early 20s I kind of steered away from the church because I was working specifically on like Sundays and stuff, and so I was just like, yeah, this is, this, is not it. And then I met my now husband and he's the one who ultimately introduced me to this way of life and, um, outside of him, it was, for me, it was just very it was the easiest transition, simply because the answers I've always had in church were never answered. But with this way of life, with being finding out that I'm hebrew, of the questions were able to be answered and this way of life is more realistic than superficial or make believe. So it's more logical.

Speaker 2:

I should say, it matches with real life. You get what I'm saying. Just a plain example you can't tell me that a spirit got you pregnant. The most high says go into a woman and get her pregnant. That's more real life. You get what I'm saying. To me, it was just the logic of it all just made more sense, yeah okay, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So in the early days, you know, this was like you know, you was going to church and and you said you kind of wow, yeah, we about to talk about that. So how was it like that? Growing up in Ghana? Um, I moved here when I was 10.

Speaker 2:

So it was definitely my early childhood, but it was. It. Was it like that. Growing up in Ghana, I moved here when I was 10. So it was definitely my early childhood, but it was fine. Like I mean, you don't know what, you don't know, right, you don't know when you are essentially sheltered to a small surrounding or environment, you don't see what the world has. So for me, my childhood was great. It was a lot of fun, I had a regular childhood and then you come here and the world is much bigger and scary, but you know, it was good. I'd like to say that.

Speaker 1:

So how did they? How did they depict Americans, Y'all, he was over there.

Speaker 2:

Everybody's rich. Everybody's rich and living the good life, what For sure? And then, even till this very day, my family thinks I'm big balling. I'm like, listen, people get money, but they pay their bills with all their money. Right yeah.

Speaker 1:

You get that money and it be gone that same day. Sometimes, like I think that's what hurt the most, like when you get paid, you work all your week, your two weeks and get it in. It'd be gone that same hour.

Speaker 2:

We're all slaves to this capitalism. Right Catholic world. It's unfortunate, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Very. But you know, at the end of the day, we know, hopefully, we, we will be, you know, reprimanded from not reprimanded, but we will be redeemed from the hardships that we go through. All praise, oh yeah. So when you came over here to Ghana and you, what part did you, what part of the United States did you go to first, or did you come straight to RIO?

Speaker 2:

My father lived in Colorado, so he's the one who brought my mom, myself and my brother to Colorado. So we lived in Colorado my whole life. And then when I met my husband in Colorado, he, you know, pandemic hit. And he was like you know, our people are here in Cincinnati because we have a sanctuary here. So he's like pandemic hit, we don't have anybody here really in Colorado. Let's, you know, let's move to Ohio, because our people are there. We don't know where this world is going to. You know where this world is going to go, so let's go be with our people.

Speaker 2:

And I was very reluctant at first. I was just like, yeah, I've never I've traveled. I've been away for like a week or two for my family, but to make that permanent move. I was very hesitant for a few months. But with the way pandemic hit, we just really didn't know. So I was like, okay, you know, if I'm supposed to trust my husband, that's what I'm gonna do. So here we are, five years later, we're still here. How do you like it? I don't like it I don't like ohio whatsoever, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's just it's so bland, it's so old, the roads are terrible. It's just. There's nothing fresh about Ohio. No offense to anybody who loves? The city, but for me. I just live here right, I get it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is. It can be. You know, I've been living in here all my life and it can be like the same old stuff and they really trying to. They ain't't like I don't think that is regentifying, I think that is like just building up. Now, gentifying is when they taking niggas out of battle or black folks up out of spots, you know, and moving them into a different area, like away from their jobs and their resources, like it ain't regentifying if you giving Black folks a better place to stay, like you give me a better place to stay than Lincoln Heights, not Lincoln Heights, but like lower homes and you know, like Top Lock and all that, like, yeah, the West End, give me a better place to stay. Y'all might be kicking me out, but at least I'm trying to make my way, I guess. But you know, at the end of the day I think that, yeah, that's crazy, it is really bland and stuff like that. So when you came here it was like, all right, we here, we locked in, and what class did you go to?

Speaker 2:

We go to the one on Kemper Lane. Okay, I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. Yeah, house of Israel, kemper Lane.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, shout out to Shia and all them brothers over there.

Speaker 2:

What's his name?

Speaker 1:

His son Natalia.

Speaker 2:

Natalia Obadiah.

Speaker 1:

Obadiah and the brother Cypher. All of them. Yeah, I rocked with all of them. Great teachers, absolutely Okay. Okay. So I thought you looked, I'm not even going to lie. Have you been there? No, I don't, I don't, I'm not even going to lie. Have you been there?

Speaker 1:

no, I, I recognize your husband from a Unity Shabbat oh yeah, I recognize because I I've seen him before like and I'm like, hold on, like I thought I thought y'all. I'm like I thought they lived, but then I'm like I don't know I was, I'm just being scatterbrained sometimes it's okay, I don't really like to disclose my location anyway oh yeah, definitely, definitely, I get it and we can be, we can bleep it out, like you know oh no, don't worry about that.

Speaker 2:

I'm not when it comes to like the internet specifically, I'm like I don't want.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you know people to know where I live.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, just for safety reasons.

Speaker 1:

I get it. The internet can't be a crazy place, man. But just know that if you bring in some drama, like the brothers in the house of Israel Kemper, they don't play. They don't play about their people for real. I can't say that.

Speaker 2:

Don't pray to God.

Speaker 1:

You down with their class and you go to their class, they look out for you, like they definitely look out. There's some good brothers down there. I'm saying some good brothers like you know all praises like and it you know it. It's a good thing that you know, because I remember when it was down there, it was downtown like, and it was like it was in the trenches like, and they still was there like, like you know, every Sunday, like giving out food and stuff like that and feeding the poor, feeding the homeless, and all that Like it was a beautiful thing. I remember they was doing a feed the poor circuit or something like that, going around in different cities. I don't know what happened to it, but I remember they was doing it. I'm like, yeah, that's what. So that's more, more stuff that we need in the information you know right, that's understood, yeah, yeah so what is the?

Speaker 1:

what was the? What was the other thing you wanted to? You know, do more work with your hands and, you know, be more proficient and efficient. You know, as a mother and a wife and a woman, what was the inspiration behind? You know, going to get the certificate and you know, just really studying up on a holistic medicine and doubling down on it being as knowledgeable as you are as you are now. What was the inspiration? And doubling down on it being as knowledgeable as you are, as you are now?

Speaker 2:

what was the inspiration? My children and my family? I personally I never grew up like in like medicine or like the doctor, or going to a hospital and stuff like this. So I was just, like you know, my husband started getting some herbs and I was like, okay, like you know, let's expound on this, let's make this bigger than us. And so ultimately just trying to stay away from um modern medicine and knowing that, like I said, the most high scripture says he puts things on this earth for us to consume and to heal us. And so, yeah, just listening and gaining my knowledge in that category to to do for my family and other people, of course, if they're interested, but mainly for my family right and that that's that's the best motivation for real.

Speaker 1:

For real, other than the most high your family. Definitely like just to see your family good and healthy, like like I remember one time I seen a post you was making. Uh, it was like making my own toothpaste or my own butter or something. I'm like what, like you know, like where can I bat it?

Speaker 2:

say, I think what it even when it comes to like the basics of um beauty regimen or hygiene. I do make that myself because it doesn't have to be complicated. That's one thing I've learned. It does not have to be complicated and you can really just do it yourself if, if you want to right, it's easy to just go to your store and be like, yeah, I just want to go get a lotion, but then the lotion has alcohol in it. Why do you need to put alcohol on your body, on the largest organ on your body? You know so. It's just a matter of how willing, how willing you're.

Speaker 1:

You know how strong you're willing so you say alcohol isn't good for your body? Are you rubbing alcohol?

Speaker 2:

no, like some lotions, have alcohol in it. If you read the ingredients, yeah, it has alcohol in it. So it's just that initial question of why is this necessary? I mean, it can be for preservatives, because it does have to stay on the shelf for a while, but it still backs up the reason of why. Right, but to me that doesn't. Um, yeah, if you can't. Yeah, the bottom line is, if you can't eat it, you probably shouldn't put it in your body or on your body.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, yeah, I've heard that a lot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So, when they tell you toothpaste, you shouldn't swallow toothpaste Like what.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I always wondered like, why do they say that Like? But when you brush your teeth you end up swallowing some toothpaste.

Speaker 2:

A little bit of something right.

Speaker 1:

Like is it that bad for you? I know it had the fluoride in it, but you know, is it that bad for you?

Speaker 2:

I mean it's not gonna kill you on the spot, but I mean over time it is gonna make some damage. So then it's, it's a domino effect of okay, now you got to go to the dentist, now you got to pay a thousand dollars for this, you got to keep going to the dentist. So it's just the cycle of putting money in these people's pockets. Right role of putting money in these people's pockets. You don't go to the doctor to get healed because they need sick patients to live their life, to afford life themselves. It's just really a big cycle. Once you just step out of that corrupted mindset, it's a little freeing. I would say it's a little freeing. But you know, not thought everybody was so cute.

Speaker 1:

I bet your kitchen's so good, because, hey, for real, y'all check this out. Like I, I dated this sister right and uh, she wasn't in the tree, but her mother was like a holistic right and uh, every time we went over her house and we went in her kitchen Cause she had all of her herbs and her shelves and stuff like that and I mean it just Smoked the time and the lady was so cold With it like she could look at you and tell what was wrong, like you know what I'm saying. She like killed herself, like, uh, like a form of cancer and stuff Like that. I remember that she was wrong. You know what I'm saying. She killed herself like a form of cancer and stuff like that. I remember that she was telling me that I'm like that's beautiful.

Speaker 2:

That's the end goal To just be able to identify things by just looking at somebody. That's a beautiful thing to be able to do.

Speaker 1:

I think that you definitely got to be in line with your spirit and, you know, like all your chakras in line and all that good stuff. Because to be able to feel somebody's energy and just look at them like, yeah, bro, you need this, this, that Like that's like you know old school priest type stuff. Like like you know old school priest type stuff, like you know levite type stuff, you know the levites, you know I'm saying yeah, that's crazy, that's beautiful yeah, I'm like I.

Speaker 1:

well, you know, you already know how y'all everybody that that practices holistic medicine and and and stays in a while you end up being like. I know another sister that was like she. She had cured herself from. It was another different form of cancer, but it had come to me once we start talking. But uh, yeah, she's 80 years old, a different form of cancer, but it'll come to me once we start talking. But yeah, she's 80 years old. She's 80 years old, she lives in Alabama. Well, no, she lives in Savannah. And this sister, like she sells herbs and stuff like that. She makes a lot of good money, like, but I mean she's like one of those one type sisters that like really own it, like be outside grounded and everything, like you said, like yeah, it's really all part of the lifestyle yeah yeah, so do you?

Speaker 1:

do you do you? Because we I've seen, we and we all have seen like, uh, like exercise videos and stuff like that, and congratulations on the weight loss and all that Definitely, definitely, it's always a good thing when you know when brothers and sisters get healthier Like you know what I'm saying, it's definitely a good thing. I need to get healthier myself and that's what I'm in the process of. But we go talk to that, like talk about that, because I feel like you can give me a diagnosis, you know we go get to that.

Speaker 1:

But I uh, I've seen that, you know that you have you've done some stuff like that and you've been outside grounded and you have made videos where you talked about, you know, certain things that we should do. Like you, you know just being outside of nature and stuff like this. So where, where do you what? What do you? Do you ground yourself, like, and when you sleep, like because I know a lot of people and I thought about doing it too like getting some copper and just running the land and, like you know, just grounding myself while I was asleep do you think that would be a good a thing for a good thing for a person to do?

Speaker 2:

absolutely. I have all, both my children, myself, my husband, we all have copper bracelets that we wear 24, 7 um. First thing, if the sun is nice outside in the morning, you know step outside with your bare foot on the grass. I let my children play in the dirt, you know. Just really be out in the nature. I think it's all good for your internal.

Speaker 2:

It's not visibly, it's not visible but, it's all good for you and a lot of people. We live in this microwave society where we need to see. We need to see the effects right now, in this very moment. But, um, it's all good for you, right? It? It's not bad for you, especially melanated people. We're very deficient in vitamin D, and so we need that. That's how I make the sun for us, right.

Speaker 1:

Right, it did make it. For us, and you know a lot of people. It does feel good when you just go outside sometimes and just stick your feet in the grass. Remember when we was younger they used to tell us don't stick your feet in the grass, you go get a tapeworm or you go get this. It was always the fear.

Speaker 2:

It was all based in fear. It surely is We've been indoctrinated so badly, so crazy to me. I just sit back and I'm like why would they do that? Why would they do? That, why would? They do that, why would?

Speaker 1:

they do that. But you know, happens, happens to us, and I really think, like you know, like, because I assess, like nature and things outside, like man don't be outside and don't you know? We used to go outside and be in nature when we was younger, but now it's like man don't be outside and don't you know? We used to go outside and be in nature when we was younger, but now it's like man. It was so rooted in, you know, fear, like the tapeworm, and you know, if you go out in nature hiking, what if you get lost? Or what if this? I mean people. I'm like man. How can you get lost if you can just look at the sun and tell where you at? Like, you know that ain't hard, like, but, like you said, it was rooted in fear and I think that now A lot of people don't do it, a lot of people are doing it and a lot of people are getting a lot, a lot healthier and living healthier lives because they see, you know, the junk that we are eating and they giving us in this country, like, and it ain't just America because, like, I see other videos, like in India, where they be just like, totally unsanitary with their food.

Speaker 1:

I'm like.

Speaker 2:

I've seen those videos too. It's so crazy, oh my goodness. And I'm like.

Speaker 1:

I'm like man, why would they even serve that stuff if people sit there, like you in the line, like you waited in a line? You get to the front of the line, you see this dude handling your stuff, like with his hands and his hands dirty, and you like, nah, I'm good, bro, right, but you done already paid your money, though, like I'm already here, I'm already hungry, it's true right, like what you gonna do I'm not gonna die man, I gonna take this to take the microorganisms right, yeah but that kind of dirt ain't right, but yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

So would be the. What would be it for somebody that was going through like had chronic migraines chronic migraines what would you, what would be the diagnosis for that, what would you think that, what would you tell them to take and what would you tell them that was the problem.

Speaker 2:

Would be to soak your feet in cold water for 20 minutes. Hmm, to soak your feet in cold water for 20 minutes. If you can add maybe some what's it called Celtic salt or pink salt, himalayan salt? Yeah, that would be my first strategy when it comes to chronic pain, chronic migraines, as you said right but also intake.

Speaker 2:

Water intake is important and when it comes to water intake, because the quality of water here is so low, I always put either self-exalt or himalayan salt in my water to bring back the electrolytes in the water, okay, yeah, magnesium is also really good for calming your nerves and the blood vessels, because when you have migraines, it's just a lot of blood rushing to your head. So magnesium helps a lot as well, which also calms your nervous system, also helps you sleep a lot. I mean sleep well at night, yeah, so that was that would be what I would recommend.

Speaker 1:

OK, yeah, recommend, okay yeah, and and do you think that it would be? So? What would be the underlining issue behind like chronic, because I know it could be different things, like blood pressure or like the lymphatic system or you know, just different things. What would you be? What would you think would be the the primary one, that like the most common for everybody that has, I think?

Speaker 2:

stress Stress would be the underlining thing for people and inflammation. A lot of things go back to our food, especially here in America. A lot of things go back to your food. If we can just eliminate things that inflame us internally, we could cure a lot of issues within ourselves. So, stress and food, right. I feel like if somebody gets like a major diagnosis, such as like cancer or anything, you got to eliminate half the things you eat and really go bare and raw when it comes to your foods, and you'll find it, you know, because a lot of things inside of us we feed. We feed the bad things inside of us when it comes to our diet, right, sugars, the oils, you name it. So if we could just eliminate those things, half of our problems we've done. It's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard, it's hard. I won't, I have to acknowledge that it's really hard, but it's doable, right? I always ask myself how bad do you want it? Which is a motivator to achieve what I want to do?

Speaker 1:

So where, where, where would one start, like what would be the process of like cleaning your system, and then you know like being healthier, and then you know like being healthier and then you know exercising. So where would be the beginning?

Speaker 2:

Oh, my goodness, that is such a vague question. Where do you not start? Because now, immediately, I just thought about your deodorant. You got to detox your body, right? You got to detox your body, right, you got to detox your body. You have to think about, from morning to evening, what are you consuming when it comes to your toothbrush, your deodorant, your lotion, your hair oils, right? The food, the drinks you're drinking, the quality of water you're drinking, and so all of these, um, all of these things play a part in, in your lifestyle. It's really about your lifestyle. So, when it comes to where does a person start? Obviously, it's the food. It's easy to say food, but, um, a lot of us eat too much food, too much bad food as well, right? So I don't know where to start. It's the food, that's all I can say, right?

Speaker 1:

So would you do a detox. So how long would you do a detox for?

Speaker 2:

The thing about detoxing is reality of the matter is your liver. Is your detox?

Speaker 3:

Your liver detoxes anyway, so I don't even like get into too deep into detoxes, or like detox teas or detox this.

Speaker 2:

Your liver does that for you. So now it just comes down to being conscious about what you put inside of your body, right? So then, first thing in the morning, do you have to have a full breakfast? No, you can grab a handful of berries and call it a day and drink some water. Right, or you could wait, or you get into my vest, you know, or you could wait till lunchtime. You don't have to eat. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

We've, we've been, we've been calling. Our mind has been colonized greatly. The thing that we have to eat three times a day? We don't have to do that, it's not necessary, right? They're just trying to get you to spend money to put in their pockets. But, um, yeah, so you don't have to eat three times a day. Wait till you're actually really hungry, till you eat. And when you do eat, you know, eat healthy things, eat your greens, I mean carbs. That's good for you too. Don't be scared away from, of course, protein, right, and of course, keep it clean, as the most I say. But um, it doesn't have to be complicated. The beautiful thing about this lifestyle is it's very simple, and so, for some reason, we've been taught that simple is bad. Simple is basic.

Speaker 1:

But it's really not. But do you have like a meal prep that you do?

Speaker 2:

on weeks a week. Myself I don't. When I was like three babies, I was a a workout person and I am still, but I was a no prep person and stuff. But no, I don't, because I like to. I like to try different things. I like to try different things every day, but every day it's a little different when it comes to cooking and whatnot, but I always keep it very basic. We got, you got your meat for fish and you've got your carbs, and then you've got your vegetables. So it's always very simple, especially when it comes to like even a piece of unleavened bread. It's nothing changes, nothing at all. Same old, same old, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Throughout the week? Do you can too? Do you do cans and preserves and stuff like that too?

Speaker 2:

That is my next goal, that is, my next achievement is to start canning. I'm currently gardening right now and I plan to do that with my tomatoes. I can preserve it through the next year, so I look forward to doing that and learning back.

Speaker 1:

What kind of tomatoes are you growing?

Speaker 2:

Just the basic tomatoes. I mean, I don't remember the, it's just a regular tomato. I don't remember the terms for it, but yeah, I'm excited to start canning tomatoes. I wish there's so many vegetables over the years because I'm like I could have done this, I could have done that, but you know, it's a journey, it's all a journey, you live and you learn, it happens when it's supposed to happen.

Speaker 1:

you know yeah. You learn everything you're supposed to learn and it happens when it's supposed to happen. So what else do you? What else is growing in your garden? Is this tomato?

Speaker 2:

I've got tomatoes um jalapenos. I got some spinach um swiss chard, some kale um my husband wants to do watermelon, but I don't know. I think that takes a lot of real estate. I don't want to do that. Also, cucumber I've done cucumbers over the years and it just really does take over. But what else I can't even think right now. Different species of kale what's the other thing I think right now?

Speaker 2:

Kale is a good blood thing yes, I choose kale over lettuce any day. Absolutely love kale. I think that's it for now. I feel like I have some seedlings starting up and a few peppers. Some peppers yeah, different, different types of peppers as well yeah, those jalapenos, all tree.

Speaker 1:

I had grew one and the tree it got. So it got so thick and hardy it had actually like grew like a little bit of tree, it was like wood and everything. Really, yeah, that thing was like producing jalapenos very two days I love that jalapenos are easy, peppers are very easy, bro, because they only take like 20 days.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh but same with cucumbers. You get a lot of cucumbers, yeah, but you got to.

Speaker 1:

You, got to have space, man.

Speaker 2:

You got to have some space and it does take a lot of water to you.

Speaker 1:

Same with tomatoes it requires a lot of water and a lot of picking them right when they're supposed to See. A lot of people think that they're supposed to pick right when they supposed to see. A lot of people absolutely supposed to pick them when they read. Now you pick them things when they green because if you pick them while they read and there might be an insect inside of that you're right you are absolutely right, yeah, so you gotta pull that out I have to make.

Speaker 2:

I made so many um jars of pickles last year and I just started giving them away because I couldn't, my family could not consume them fast enough. But you know again. You live and you learn.

Speaker 1:

That's what's up. Man, I mean, hey, I wish I had a garden when I had one, you can. Yeah, I ain't got the space. If I had the space, I would Our previous home we our previous, our previous home.

Speaker 2:

We did our previous home say what now? My apologies, um, but our previous house. We had the land and we have the space. However, we moved and we don't have the land anymore. Like so we decided to um pivot into doing buckets right different sizes and as well as doing the tent which will have, like the grow light in there. So it's doable. I will say that regardless of land size, it's very doable. Right comes down to how bad you want it yeah, how bad you want it.

Speaker 1:

Right, I had a, uh, I had an avocado plant. It grew for like about a year and a half, because you know, avocados they take a little while to grow, yeah, a couple seasons. You don't just get an avocado, you gotta germinate that thing and then it, once it's sprout, then you put it in the ground and then you gotta let it grow, grow, grow, grow, grow. It take a while. Today, something like pineapples, you know, uh it, yeah, I wish I it takes about five years to have an avocado and a tree.

Speaker 2:

That's another thing. I can't wait to purchase land and really have that, really live that lifestyle of being off the grid. You know what I mean? I love to have fruit trees in the backyard. I love that. That's definitely a goal of mine, or a goal of ours, I should say definitely and have all them chickens yes, and we had chickens one time and our neighbors called the health department on us and we had to get rid of them. But that was short lived good times. That was good goodness.

Speaker 1:

Man, they was just mad because they didn't think of the plan first. Sometimes that's all it be. For real, people just be hating because they just mad, because they didn't think of it first.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, even in that house we lived in we grew so much vegetables we gave everybody, we gave all our neighbors like vegetables that we couldn't consume. But that lady who called the health department, like look, everybody got some fresh vegetables, but you, oh, because you wanted to be a snitch.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's what happened, man, all right. Hey, it is what it is, though you know hey is what it is, though you know so if, if, what's the best, the best holistic thing for like arthritis, if somebody had real bad arthritis, how could they like counter reverse it? Because I know, like holistic medicine, it reverses a lot for real. For real, like it's amazing. So what would you prescribe?

Speaker 2:

When it comes to arthritis, any herd that will reduce inflammation. I think arthritis is just your joints that are inflamed. So, yeah, I think arthritis is just your joints that are inflamed. So I have a book that is I think it's called Herb Remedies or Remedies of Herbs, but ultimately, the bottom line for that is just reducing your inflammatory. Turmeric is a great anti-inflammatory as well. Ginger, peppermint. Back to magnesium. Lavender is also great for anti-inflammatory. So, yeah, just any herbs. And a lot of the beautiful thing about herbs is one herb can cure 10 things, right, so? And a lot of them are antioxidants and anti-inflammatory a basic one I think I would go for. It would be like nettle leaf. Nettle leaf has all the proteins and all the vitamins as well as anti-inflammatory, but um, yeah, nettle and turmeric is probably should be a go-to when it comes to, you know, a little hot cup of tea I love.

Speaker 1:

I love the way that nettle leaves taste. I usually use it with uh like, uh woolen and some powder work uh, woolen and some paddle work. And yeah, just a little bit of I probably sometimes I put a clove in it and I love that. It is. Oh they so good, I got to get so good.

Speaker 2:

I feel like a lot of people underestimate clothes and the benefits of clothes.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it helps with my diet and it helps with like for the brothers that got stinky breath and the sisters that got stinky breath. It helps with your stinky breath too.

Speaker 2:

No, absolutely. It's antimicrobial. It helps with digestion. Also, antioxidants and anti-inflammatory. Helps with your blood sugar and um loses your immune system and your brain protection. That's a lot.

Speaker 1:

That's a lot and you know what man the crazy part like. We always was told like, yeah, man, you gotta cut them weeds and go outside and cut the grass and cut this down, cut that down, we don't need that, that ain't bad, that ain't good. Well, it ain't good. But now we're growing up and it's like man, all the stuff that we see in these books, that we deal with, it was outside all along.

Speaker 2:

No, truly, I can't think of the little yellow flower that grows as weed in your yard. I can't think of the name right now, but those are so good as teas. Do you know what I'm talking about? The dandelions or your health? But then you know, imagine if people with yards just grew and traded what they grew, but they for you to cut your grass. If you have a hoa, you got to cut your grass. It has to look manicured. For what?

Speaker 2:

right just land that's not being used. It's so crazy to me, even when it comes to like trees. The only reason a lot of people have allergies is because the only trees around are male trees and they cut down all the female trees because the female trees will produce this fruit and they didn't want us picking fruit off the trees, because they wanted us to buy it. Going back to consumers or capitalists, and it's like this thing is so deep, they try to really get us far, far, far away from the way we're supposed to be living, according to the Most High and they really thought this through, and we just eat it up, eat it up and get it further, further away from the way we're supposed to be living.

Speaker 1:

It's like, wow, I did, like I kind of learned something and I kind of like got some insight. That's what you just said. You said all the trees that they got is pill trees. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's what creates the pollen and that's why people get so allergies. You notice, I don't know, especially in america, you don't see fruit trees, right? You rarely see fruit trees. They purposely cut them down because they don't want people eating for free. Man, right, right, like how evil do you have to be to not want somebody to eat for free?

Speaker 1:

Man, I had a sister that lives in. Well, I know a sister that lives in St Lucia named CJ. She would tell me and sometimes like because she would do music with us and stuff like that, but sometimes she would like do videos with me and she would show like how she'd just walk outside of her house and just pick off a papaya like, and it'd just be like that's how it should be, yeah papayas and mangoes, I'm like all that on the ground.

Speaker 1:

She said, yeah, people just come past and eat it. I eat the stuff that's off the tree, but they eat the stuff that's on the ground. I said, either way, you win it.

Speaker 2:

That's how it should be. Even the scripture talks about don't clip everything off your vineyards because it's essentially for the poor. That's how it should be. They want us to buy everything and work hard to buy those things. Capitalism Everything comes down to capitalism.

Speaker 1:

It's always going to go back to that, because the thing of it is is that we never lived like that. We always used a broader system. Our ancestors, they didn't live off the land or on the land. They lived with the land, you know.

Speaker 2:

Right, they lived with the land. That's beautiful. They lived with the land.

Speaker 1:

Because they knew how to use the land, just like how the land used us. Remember, think about this.

Speaker 1:

And this was something deep, like when I, when I, when a brother brought this to me and I had to really research and think about it like and prayed on it too, like. So remember when the most high told us like, hey, when y'all and y'all land, or when y'all you know wherever y'all had like, when y'all doing what y'all doing at the uh and y'all in the wilderness, we in the tents, boom, he said, when y'all use the bathroom, go outside. And you know, outside the, the, the camp and use the bathroom. Now think about this. At times we was there, it was there posted for months I'm know what I'm saying For months.

Speaker 1:

So just think about all the fertilizer.

Speaker 2:

Imagine that, including the cattle and the animals we had with us.

Speaker 1:

Right so the land is just like Earth, is just like a big old computer, right so when you input information, you get back certain things from the earth. Right so when we was putting in our information, our DNA, our poop, it was growing what we needed to heal us and keep us sustained us. That man, mother earth is crazy, like it ain't?

Speaker 2:

crazy. It's beautiful, it's just beautiful for me yeah, but it it definitely uh, when I, when I, when I, when a brother brought that to me, I'm like yeah, the multi tells us to let the land rest for seven, every seven years, when you let our bodies rest for every seven days. These people don't let the land rest and they wonder why the fruits are not, are not? Fruitful. Now you got to spray everything with pesticides and all this, all this GMO stuff. Yeah. Give it a rest. You got to rest, Dang do it.

Speaker 1:

They don't even let the animals rest at all. Man, it's probably somewhere right now. They probably beating a cow or an ox or something like that to pile a yard or a field there's not enough.

Speaker 2:

They don't let the animals rest. Even when it comes to cows, they're feeding the cows corn instead of letting the cow eat the grass, trying to get them as fat as possible so they can sell it. Even when it comes to, as you said, compost, that's good for the soil so you can grow For a moment there. When we had our chickens, when the chickens went around the yard pooping around, my husband would scoop it up and put it in a compost and all the vegetables that chopped up the ends of it put it in a compost. Over time it turns into dirt and you just added it to the garden and it works fine. But now they want you to go buy fertilizer and it works fine.

Speaker 2:

But now they want you to go buy fertilizer. Yeah, oh, my goodness. I'm not laughing because it's funny, I'm laughing because it's actually ridiculous. Like the circle is just crazy, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

You already know what, y'all already know what it go back to. So we not when, when this is what we go do for the rest of the podcast, when, when we know, when y'all know what we're talking about, we're just going to say uh-uh, uh-uh.

Speaker 2:

It's like I'm just going to be talking in circles. I'm not trying to do that. I mean everything really, really just is one thing. And two greed. Greed as well, but you know that's another conversation did you see that?

Speaker 1:

that, that that lady that had I forgot where she was at, but she had a guard in her front yard and her backyard and the government state came and told her to cut it down of course, of course, pages, pages.

Speaker 2:

They don't want us to live the way the Most High wants us to live, because the closer we are to the Most High, they know that your enemy knows the liar, knows the lie. They told right. The enemy knows what we're supposed to be doing, and when they see us doing that, that's when they become fearful. Because they know our power. They fear us coming together and if, once we do that, it's game over.

Speaker 2:

They know it's game over over they're really just trying to keep us away from one another right, let the people know where they can do.

Speaker 1:

You sell your products and stuff. You sell products and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

I do so. I participate in a local farmer's market. I sell my herbs as teas, as you know. I have herb infused hair oil, I have body butters, I have some bat teas, have some bath teas, or, yeah, bath teas. Um, I make lemonade for hot days at the farmer's market. But um, I participated in that and um, I have an Etsy shop with those things as well. When it comes to my teas, I have all types of teas for different purposes men's wellness tea, women's tea, pregnancy, postpartum, lung tea, you name it. You name it, um, I've got it. But um, I have an Etsy shop called um. My brand is called a herbal crown, so the, so the Etsy shop is called at herbal crown, and um, I'm on Facebook as um, like the letters Elsie, israel, and you know, that's pretty much it, hey.

Speaker 1:

I can't say that if y'all don't listen to her stuff, y'all be a hater, but if y'all don't support, y'all some haters for real. Because I'm going to say this the sister is definitely doing a lot of good, a lot of good in the nation and she needs help and support to spread the message and the goodness that she's doing in the nation. So if y'all not supporting, y'all not hitting that, like y'all not hitting the cash app, y'all not hitting it, whatever she got coming to, pulling up on her at the, at the, at the uh, the farmer's market and and selling her out, you know I'm saying if y'all not doing that, you'll hate her.

Speaker 2:

I'm just gonna say that I appreciate the love and the recognition. Oh yeah, definitely so.

Speaker 1:

It's like I, like I said I've been, I've been watching your, your profile for a while, like not on those notes, no, not on no soccer shit, like y'all. Y'all know I ain't on soccer, I understand, but I'm just saying, like those people be like man you on some soccer shit, but no, I'm not like I, I just I just I follow the people that I follow and like the interest. So you know I have my own algorithm. Like you know, I like to like to follow the people that I follow and like the interest. So you know I have my own algorithm. Like you know, I like to follow the people that are doing the same things that I'm doing or you know, like, have the same interest as me, like what everybody would Like, you know. But like I have a lot of people that I have that do a lot of herbalistic, uh, holistic medicine and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

But like you're one of the biggest ones, like one of the main ones, that I do follow and I do see, like you know, how you can put everybody's post at the top or certain people post at the top, like yours is one of the ones that's like I see first, like, turn on facebook, like, because it's always something like and it's always something different, like that sheet that you talk about, that you bring to light like, you know, like, like last time you was talking about we talked about the post. When you talk about the phone structure and like, so, like, let's touch on that a little bit more because I don't think, like you gave people just a little bit just to be intrigued. I think you should do like a show, like for real, like for real. I really do think you should do a show, and you know, like, and just have, like other holistic doctors on it.

Speaker 2:

That is so funny. You say that Because I can't tell you how many people have told me you need to be on the internet. You can start making money off of this thing and owe all you have to save and I have a lot to save but I try not to be chronically online because for several reasons, but you're not the first one to say that You're actually not.

Speaker 1:

See, this is the thing, and it don't even have to be like. It don't even have to be like online, online. So you can just do like. You can do, just like five, ten minute little segment on your phone and just videotape and then just upload it to YouTube. How you do it? You pay. You know what I'm saying. So it ain't like you're doing lives or anything Like you. Just you know right and just do different angles and boom, get your point across. Get your point across in five, ten minutes. You know what I'm saying. Like I'd be intrigued just off the little 30 seconds. You do Like, you know so.

Speaker 2:

To be honest, I'm just really nervous Because the internet is People. People can be so mean on the internet, and I also like my privacy too. I don't know they're racking to be, honest.

Speaker 1:

But the thing of it is, and it ain't even for me, it ain't about the monetization of the money, it's more about the message you know and pushing the message, like and making sure because and this is the way to go Like, I've been trying to like, like, move away from conventional medicine for years, like, so I've been like, I'm not like as as first as you are in it, but I, um, I have a lot of herbs and I, you know, I drink a lot of tea and I do topicals and stuff like that Um, I try to, you know, eat the best, like, but I try to eat the best.

Speaker 2:

But the way my bank account is set, up, I saw that the stuff is not cheap, and that's another thing. That's another thing when it comes to this lifestyle is it's not cheap. It's not cheap to buy the raw ingredients. That's why they push the convenience. It's convenient to go get this and that it's convenient to just go buy bread. That's never going to mold. The bread is supposed to mold.

Speaker 2:

But if you make your own bread now, you got to get the flour, you got to get the sugar, you got to get the yeast, you got to get the, and it's like you know what I don't. Actually. Let me just go get that bread Right. So they make. You got to get the and it's like you know what I don't. Actually. Let me just go get that bread Right. So they make the convenience very appealing.

Speaker 2:

But if you want to make it yourself, you got to put in time, you got to put in the money, you got to put in the energy, and a lot of people can't afford time because you're working 40 hours a week. You got to come home. You got to pick the kids up from school. You got to pick the kids up from school. You got to do this, you got to do that. When are you going to have to? When are you going to have another four hours to make bread? Never. So we're just stuck in this cycle, the systematic cycle of so-called convenience, but at the expense of our health and our wellbeing and our quality of life.

Speaker 1:

Right, how does one? I don't hate to sound like a broken record, but I mean, it just seemed like you got the answer.

Speaker 2:

I don't have the answer. I like to say I'm a baby in the things I'm really. I'm really just in a phase of learning and what I can improve on as a mother. I don't know everything. Please don't give me that credit. I really I have so much to learn.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but see, this is the thing the most I definitely gives wisdom to all you know. And wisdom is wisdom, is it dwells in you. I can hear it Like so I appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate it and.

Speaker 2:

I'm definitely trying to like like talk a certain way, Cause I usually be more slurred and more Be comfortable. Don't let me hold you back, Right?

Speaker 1:

No, I just I just gotta meet you where you at. You know what I'm saying, that's, you don't have to come down to where I'll be at Like, cause I'll be like, I'll be, I'll be like I'll be, I'll be with the fucker sometimes.

Speaker 2:

So this is your show.

Speaker 1:

I'm following you later? Oh, no, no, no, we, we, we, we, chopping it up, building. I'm enjoying it because this is very insightful and very informative. Like you know, I definitely want to know a lot of this. So what would you think Would be the best thing for, uh, like, like your lymphatic system, like to to to drain, because they, they say you can drain it and it'll help, like with numbness, because that's what I deal with now like, like, I feel like numbness and certain things tingling in certain parts of my body, like my arms and my legs and stuff like that. And right now I'm in the process of. I have a tea that I'm drinking. It's a lymphatic system tea and it helps to cleanse it. But you know, I just started drinking it. But what could be the other? What could be other things? I know that I can do berries and melons that could help, you know, drain it. But what could be something else that I can?

Speaker 2:

um hydration. Don't forget the salt in the water for the electrolytes. You gotta move, you gotta walk, you gotta work out um stretching. I feel like a lot of us we get old, we get, we're getting older and we don't stretch. We gotta stretch um dry brushing as well. Dry brushing right before you get in the shower, just scrub your body. That really gets your lymphatic going. It really gets that drainage, that clogs in your system loosened up. Um, red clothes are really good for lymphatic. Um, burdock root and dandelion is really good for your lymphatic as well. Also, like just taking a moment, releasing stress right and deep breathing helps with your lymphatic as well. And going to your pressure points with, like your knuckles, yeah, and just rubbing that that spot, just rubbing. And throughout the day, just remember to. You know, let your tongue down, relax your shoulders blink. A lot of us are just so tense throughout the day and we just got to breathe out.

Speaker 2:

Take a moment. At least that's my issue. I get so tense throughout the day and I'm like I got to do this. I got to do this. Slow down, take a minute, breathe, let your shoulders down, release the tongue on top of your roof and just breathe out. Even my four-year-old she tells me I need a minute, I need to, I need to breathe I'm like go ahead girl you got to breathe in four times, right.

Speaker 2:

So we have to just try to reduce our stress. It's so easy to say, but we have to reduce our stress and by reminding us of the little things that we do on a daily basis really will help with those internal diseases.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's insightful Cause I I definitely heard a couple of them things, but some of them things you just saying it was like, oh, okay, like I got bird, I love bird I don't know I's since I've been drinking tea.

Speaker 2:

It's like man, like the earth the more earthier, the better right and even, like I know, a lot of people are not like tea drinkers. A lot of people don't like tea. One of my friends said it looks like piss water. You know, even if you don't like to drink tea, you can do baths. Put it in a tea bag and throw it in your If you like to take a bath at least some grown men don't but once in a while throw it in your bath and just sit in it. Just sit in it. That still will. You still gain the benefits. Or even a foot bath. Just put it in a bucket and put your foot in it, because your feet is also an absorbent, so you can just put it in a foot bath and your body will absorb those benefits.

Speaker 1:

So some of the best ways to do it other than well, I'm about to repeat what you just said, but that makes sense here. Just sit in it and put your feet in it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it doesn't have to be hard. You don't have to necessarily drink it orally, but there are different ways around it for different people.

Speaker 1:

So what's the best ways to drain mucus out of your system?

Speaker 2:

Mullein, as you mentioned earlier, mullein is great for getting the mucus out of your system. Mullein, as you mentioned earlier, mullein is great for getting the mucus out of your system. Reducing your meat content, specifically like chicken Chicken has the way they produce chicken these days is just not ethical.

Speaker 1:

But anyways, yeah, reducing your meat intake and as well as mullein herbs, and constantly just drinking inflammatory, anti-inflammatory herbs, as well as antioxidant herbs when it comes to mucus, right, right and keeping hydrated, keeping hydrated so when mixing herbs because a lot of people don't know how to mix the herbs and put them in a bag and like how much to do, because you can, you can overdose and people need to understand you can overdose on herbs and but it won't be like you overdose on some crack or something like that. But you can definitely do too much and I have. I got to admit, like I have failed victims to, you know, and burdock root was one of them, like because I just love the way it tastes, but like you got to really be careful about you know what you, how you mix them in. You know because it's potent, this stuff be potent and it can really do something to you. So how do you usually mix your teas?

Speaker 2:

so there's a category of stimulant herbs and, um um, stimulus herbs. So one has one is the one that boosts your energy and the one essentially one that boosts your energy and one that's a down that downs your energy, right. So you want to be careful when it comes to mixing those things because you don't want two things clashing, two herbs clashing. So it's so important, as you said it's, it's easy to make you feel. I I made a batch for rices very early in my journey and she almost went to hospital.

Speaker 2:

I did not know what I was doing. But you got to be careful when it comes to mixing your herbs and do your research on the herbs because, again, one herb can do 10 things, 10 different things. So, when it comes to mixing your herbs, you have to have the knowledge of what's a downer and what's an upper. Essentially Right, just to put it in lamest terms. Right, yeah, just do your research and be like can this go with this? Can this go with that? Can this go with this? Be careful with that. You can't mix yerba mate and something else. You can't even think of another herb right now.

Speaker 1:

But you've got to do your research. Ultimately. Yeah, y'all definitely, and I can attest to that. Like I said, I fumbled. Your boy will be a fumble. But I got back on the horse and I could tell that that's what it was from, because it was a different feeling than anything that I you know, when you mix the wrong herbs and you do too much, yeah, that tells you like it's a different feeling, big different feeling. What was you about to say, susan?

Speaker 2:

Even like prime example, when you do hibiscus. Hibiscus is not the greatest for men because when it comes to men's reproductive system, it really just shrinks up your reproductive system. So men should most likely stay away from hibiscus away from hibiscus. Okay, A little note there. It's a sweet herb but it's not necessarily the best for men, especially if you are in that prime years of baby making and stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Learn something new. I got a bunch of hibiscus too. I won't be drinking that.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's not terrible. Forcus too, I won't be drinking that. I mean it's not terrible for you, but if you let's say like, if you want children, if you want children, maybe stay away from them for the moment. Temporarily.

Speaker 1:

What would be good for, like, man's libido? Like because I know it's a lot of brothers that have that issue right now. So what would you leave as a thing for a man's libido?

Speaker 2:

Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha is really good. Ashwagandha is good for women too. What else? Makarut also good for women. Let me see. Karut.

Speaker 2:

Also good for women. Let's see, did I mention your roommate Green tea? It's called gunpowder green tea, specifically. That's really good for men as well. Let's see Ginkgo. Ginkgo is really good for men. It helps with the circulation. All of these help with circulation. Um maca root helps with fertility and your libido, and ashwagandha is great for your muscle strength and even sexual health and even reduces stress as well. So I highly recommend ashwagandha, for sure, even for women too. Tribulus is really good for testosterone production. Yeah, just a few there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, sis, I definitely enjoy all the information and I will sit here taking notes, y'all, like, please believe, because, like I said, I got a lot of these herbs that she was talking about and I'm like, okay, I didn't know that I could use that for that too, like. So, all praise to the most high man. We got brothers and sisters out here that have the knowledge and can share the wisdom and understanding with us. Like, sis, you are definitely doing a big thing in the nation and definitely representing, you know, your household and the nation in a positive and a righteous manner. All praise is to the most high. We thank you and we appreciate, appreciate that your efforts. So it's definitely like, because, you know, without sisters and brothers like you, like we, we wouldn't know about this stuff, you know. I'm saying like because a lot of us is still, even though we, in the truth, we still americanized, you know that's true.

Speaker 2:

Great job, yeah, but it's all a journey. I'm not perfect perfect. I don't know it all, but I'm definitely willing to learn and pass on the knowledge.

Speaker 1:

Right, and y'all definitely, like I said, man, y'all support the sister. She's doing a great service to all, service to all. You know, like I said, I even bought some herbs from her for my wife and, uh, like, we still, we still, she still was using them. Like it was some good stuff, like, like, uh, like, oh, I forgot what it was it was the postpartum tea you got right yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and yeah, she and my wife, my wife she's like she liked the way it tasted, but she wasn't going through nothing like that, but it just, uh, it was just, you know, something that I could definitely put on the shelf. I put it in my thing and, uh, my little, my little mason jar like that, I got all my herbs in and it'll last for a while. So, you know, once we have another child, and if she does happen to go through that, then I got it on deck right.

Speaker 1:

You know, I'm saying yeah yeah, I'm a hoarder when it comes to herbs. Y'all I ain't yeah, you and me both, man, my god I'll be trying to find the apocrypha, like it's one over there in uh in uh, mount healthy on uh, what is that? Um, mount Healthy, what is that? Is that? I forgot what the name of the street is. It starts with a C, but it's over there in Mount Healthy y'all. Most people probably know what about her. She sells a little good butter and everything too.

Speaker 2:

I've never heard of it, unfortunately, yeah it's on Compton.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's on Compton Road, right there. As soon as you go up Hamilton, make it's on Compton. Yeah, it's on Compton Road, right there, as soon as you go up Hamilton, make that right on Compton. She sits right there on the corner, nice place y'all Like big up to the sister.

Speaker 1:

I forgot the name, but she is a pocket fairy. She definitely has, like, what you need. But we ain't talking about her, we talking about the sister LC. She definitely got what y'all need. Y'all go hit her up on her, uh, her websites, uh order everything she got, cause everything she got is going to help you and heal you and make sure you do it y'all. And, uh, I, we just definitely got to make sure that the sister has, you know, the proceeds to be, continue to do the things that she's doing for, you know, her family and for us, right? So it's a double thing. You know she does it for her family and for the nation. So you know, and anybody that wants to get it like you know, come get it like, come get the truth, come get the good holistic teaching and the good holistic medicine.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, I ordered some stuff from her. It came quick and you know, I even had a little card and it was just so nice and I'm like, oh okay, like the way she packaged it and everything was good, like I still got the package too, y'all, I ain't gonna lie. But at the end of the day, y'all, the sister is doing her thing. So I'm going to just let her go ahead and tell y'all because I'm sure she got a lot of people, a lot of fans, a lot of followers and all the fans and followers that's listening to the podcast big up to y'all. Y'all keep on pushing in the name of the Most High, and let the sister go ahead and tell y'all what y'all want to hear, or what she wants to tell y'all All your plugs, all your links and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Just my Facebook, lc Israel, my Etsy shop, herbal Crown, and honestly, that's really it. That's really it. I appreciate your time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely, oh yeah. So it's an opportunity. I've been trying to get you on a podcast and I definitely might have to get you on another one, because I wanted to do a like a segment called Every Herb Yielding Seed. You know that sounds so good oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

So we might have to. You know, talk in the background about you know some projects, some up and coming projects and stuff like that. Cause I'm definitely looking to do, you know, more of a holistic side too. Like you know, I do a lot of truth music and stuff like that, but I be wanting to be a holistic and have, like spoken word and just a diverse type of you know interview interviewees. So I definitely appreciate you coming on, sis and uh, it's been a beautiful build. Definitely you got to get you back on here. We both got some time and you know I'm a I'm gonna have a little bit more structured uh interview so I can reel you a little bit more and pick your brain.

Speaker 1:

But all praise to the most high. We thank you, we appreciate you for coming in. This is your boy, abiy, on the Stick to Truth Podcast and we are hosted. We are not on. Let me get that straight. We are hosted. I just set up our music radio station. All praise to the most high. Y'all get home safely, man, until next Wednesday at 12 pm Eastern Time. Y'all have a good week and a good weekend and a good Saturday. Peace, thank you, thank you, bye.