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Ep 26 From Fruity Loops to Kingdom Work: A Producer's Journey Pt1: TsadiqqMuzik144

Abiah Season 1 Episode 26

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The creative journey of a dedicated music producer rarely follows a straight path, especially when guided by spiritual purpose rather than mainstream success. TsadiqqMuzik144 sits down with us to explore how his evolution from hobbyist to prolific beat-maker has been fundamentally shaped by his spiritual awakening.

With nearly a thousand beats in his catalog spanning everything from Latin rhythms to rock influences, Tsadiqq  reveals the mysterious nature of his creative process: "When I'm making music, I don't have any thoughts at all. Music is just coming out of me." This intuitive approach has generated tracks that artists immediately connect with, often leading to powerful collaborations that serve what he calls "kingdom work."

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Tsadiqq details how he narrowly avoided the music industry's notorious traps. He breaks down the mechanics of predatory 360 deals that leave artists owing "over a million dollars" while essentially becoming "slaves to the corporation." This insider knowledge has helped him maintain independence while creating authentic music that aligns with his values.

Beyond production techniques, we explore Tsadiqq's spiritual journey that began in 2013 when a book called "Fossilized Customs" transformed his understanding of faith and purpose. This awakening not only changed his personal trajectory but influenced his entire approach to music creation – prioritizing accessibility over profit by keeping his rates reasonable so more artists can create meaningful work.

Whether you're a music producer seeking to maintain integrity in your craft, an artist navigating industry pitfalls, or simply someone drawn to authentic stories of purpose-driven creativity, this conversation offers valuable insights into balancing artistic excellence with spiritual commitment. Connect with  TsadiqqMuzik144 on TikTok to experience his unique sound and production style.

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Speaker 1:

all praise to the most high y'all. Hey, what's going on? Y'all, man, it's another wednesday, another wednesday, and it's your boy, a bna. We are back with the speech your truth podcast every wednesday at 12 pm, eastern standard time. Y'all know what it is. So today I got I would say I would I would like to say my, my, my in-house exclusive producer, because he's produced a lot of my music and a lot of tracks for us and you know, a couple albums actually, like you know, um, but we gonna get into that. But you know this, this one of my, my brothers, that's like real near and dear and beloved to me. I've been knowing him for a while. I actually met him through another brother. We started doing business with the songs and everything. It's been a beautiful thing, man. I'm just going to let him introduce himself and let him tell y'all what he came through. Let him know who you is and what you came to do, bro yes, sir, yes, sir, all praise the lord.

Speaker 2:

first and foremost, my name is the deck music 144 and um, I'm a producer, I'm a lyricist, I'm a writer, um, I, I want to wear every hat that I possibly can in music and I want to do all I can to make as much kingdom work for Yisrael. That's what I want to do. I want to make as much kingdom work as I possibly can.

Speaker 2:

Right right, that's my absolute goal, for sure. Well, my absolute goal is to hear y'all say you know you well done. But you know, while I'm here, right, you know, I want to earn that crown and that's what it's about man.

Speaker 1:

That's definitely what it's about man trying to, you know, earn that favor and that grace from the most high I I know he was created to serve him and it's a huge chair. I swear I'm in a new venue, y'all, so y'all got to bear with me, you got to bear with me. It ain't my normal setup but it's a bigger and better setup. I'm at the Simon Studios. All praise to the most high. I had the JFK Hallelujah and this chair is really I might have to switch, swap it out, but y'all won't. But yeah, it's definitely a beautiful thing to to know that the Most High you know to try to work off in that that righteousness. Like you know, it's a good thing that you, that you, you know you, you, you learned from our ancestors and you trying to move better and do better. All praise to the most high so right.

Speaker 2:

So what got you started in this, bro, like the truth music and making beats and stuff like that and producing well, I've been pretty much making music since I was 16, but since before then I was making music since I was like five, really okay, you know, I don't want to say I'm some type of prodigy or nothing like that, but it's, it's in my family, it's in my veins.

Speaker 1:

Music I know for a fact, I was put here to do that, you know, and uh, but the production side, I've been doing it pretty much since I was 16, oh okay and the brother fire y'all like I mean, hey, every he done sent me, I done did something with it and flipped it and made it a classic, like hall praises, like uh yeah, and it'd be like man, how did he be putting it together? Sometimes, like some of them be like bro, like where did you come up with this?

Speaker 2:

like and believe it or not? Believe it or not? My mom it or not? My mom, my brother? A lot of people ask me that question and the answer to that is I couldn't tell you. Because I really couldn't tell you, because when I'm making the music I don't have any thoughts, like I don't have any thoughts at. I don't have Any thoughts at all, it's just music is just coming Out of me. You know, and that's why I never come back to Beats, because I can't Go back to that time, because I didn't have any thoughts to connect To it. You know what I'm saying. So like it's completely led, like 100%, like I got beats that things happen in the beat that I didn't even account for, right? You know what I'm saying? How some of these beats came together.

Speaker 1:

I can't even tell you how it happened at all hey, and the beat that was just playing in the intro, y'all that beat was fire, wasn't it? Though it was definitely fire. When I heard it, I'm like what? Like he want to want me to use this for the podcast, like I think I might want to cop this and make something hot with it, like hey look, I got.

Speaker 2:

I got almost a thousand beats. You know I'm pretty close to a thousand at this point a thousand shots.

Speaker 1:

I better go shop with him, man, like, because he definitely like got them hits, like definitely got them joints for y'all, man, man, and it's at reasonable prices too. Man. Go ahead and shop with him, man, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Because that's the whole point. You got to make it to where Israel can afford it because you want to make as much kingdom work as you possibly can. You want to get it out and you don't want to just charge your own people an arm and a leg. That's not fair?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that ain't fair, right? No, that's not fair at all and that's that's right to see you, bro, doing that like, because, like I, you know most producers man, I came across a couple producers man, they try to take you up top, like one dude tried to take me up top for a beat, like he wanted, like, oh honey, like $0.00 for it. I'm like, man, it ain't nothing like what you done made me like, and I'm like, bro, for real, and it's all good, like I pay for your craft because I be wanting people to pay for my craft and my talent. You know my time. Gotta say that.

Speaker 1:

You know when it, when it comes to, when it comes to, like you say, a kingdom work, like it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be a taxation on it, it shouldn't be like a, a super tax to where, like man, motherfucking, can't deal with it or can't even acquire it. Because, like shit, if you hear the beat, the beats that he make, like you'd be like man, hold on, these is like a metro booming type. You know, pay like you pay 10, 10 bands for these type beats like. But you know, the brother brother is reasonable and you know, yeah, and yeah, and it's a beautiful thing. So what was the first beat? What was the name of the first beat you made?

Speaker 2:

okay. So I got an mpPC live too and all of my beats that I've made you saying like overall yeah, like, no, like just the first beat that you made.

Speaker 1:

What was the name? What is your name?

Speaker 2:

okay. So I used to have FL Studios way back in the day when it was called Fruity Loops. A lot of people don't even know that. You know what I'm saying. They call it FL Fruity Loops, but I don't know what I named it. I probably just named it Untitled, but it wasn't good. I'm not even going to lie to you. I really don't like to go back to old beats, first and foremost because of the thought thing, but second of all, I don't like to look at my old, my old work. You know what I'm saying. It's just a little cringy. You know what I'm saying Because it's not the standard that I have now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2:

He said it was cringy, though, but hey, I mean it is. You think about it, because it's like you know for a fact that you so much better than that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

I'm like man, I really made this well, you know, you gotta start from somewhere. Grassroots bro, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

that that's true, that's true. So yeah, the first one I go.

Speaker 1:

My first. My first rap was like I don't know, everybody said they liked my first. My first rap was like I don't know, everybody said they liked my first. My first song. It was called gloves. Well, it was called uh praise, uh praising, yeah, what was it called? Y'all's one. And then I did gloves off but I, everybody said that gloves off was I have and I'm like that shit was kind of like to me, I couldn't listen to it. That shit was kind of like to me, I couldn't listen to it. Like that my bars was trashed. So I get what?

Speaker 2:

you're saying, I mean, but you know what, if you think about it because, see, I had the FL Studios and now when I I'll never really go back to that because I don't even have it, no more I had a machine and I think my first beat on that was called what was it called? It was real smooth, real jazzy, and I thought it was okay. Uh, somebody actually wanted to purchase it at one point but I never finished it. It's a long story about what happened with that. That was around the time I was like 18 or so and I didn't really know a whole lot. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know the most highest real name or any of that, and I'm thankful to y'all that I didn't go down the path that you know. I was kind of sort of heading on I'm not even going to lie to you because I got in touch with some a and rs. That was like wanting some work and it just didn't work out because it wasn't supposed to work out. You know what I'm saying. I'm thankful, very thankful, because I know what the industry is really all about. You know what I'm saying. So I'm thankful to y'all that I didn't go down that path, because that's a dark path. That's when I want to avoid it all.

Speaker 1:

And the end of the path is Diddy.

Speaker 2:

Diddy and all the other ones, but especially Diddy.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, you got to give up that virgin butthole, ain't?

Speaker 2:

nobody on that. You got to give up that. That virgin butthole ain't nobody. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta lay it down. That's cold, cold, that's. That's a path. I'm just like yeah, yeah, yeah no bro real yeah, I ain't gonna even front like I'm not the only one, like, like I said, uh, music kind of runs in my family, especially on my dad's side or whatnot. My little brother, he's into music too and he also got an offer, but it was. You could tell it was um, it was a 360. You know what I'm?

Speaker 1:

saying oh okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he was like nah, I know what that's about. He told him no, but yeah, you could tell it was a 360.

Speaker 1:

And that be the thing, man, like they be trying to give you these good deals, like, and they don't ever know you don't ever know until you look at the contract if it's a 360 or not. And then, yeah, a lot of people don't know what a 360 is, so go ahead, explain it to them 360 deal is basically a terrible contract in itself.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to, you know, paraphrase or whatnot, because I know there's a literal definition and then there's what we all know. But to kind of sort of keep it short, the 360 deal is when you basically owe the, the conglomerate, right? You don't, you don't even, you don't go nowhere at all, you stay where you at 360. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Like you start here and you end there because you're in debt and it's cold, right, and it's cold man, like when you over budget and your album dropping. It don't even go platinum, it barely go gold. Then they be like hey, you owe us like 200 bands and you only made 200 bands off your album, not 200, not 200 bands.

Speaker 2:

I can tell you how it go. I can tell you exactly how it go, all right. So take an artist from Texas or whatever. He starting to get a little buzz or whatnot. He gets shows or whatever. They say, oh, this person has some influence, so I want him to join. Right, they get him and they offer him this deal. He's from the hood or whatnot, and they offer him this deal.

Speaker 2:

He's from the hood, or whatnot, so he's not really thinking about the true ramifications of signing a contract without actually reading it. So he signed the contract not even really thinking about it, not getting a lawyer or any of that, and they give him his advance. His advance is around $250,000. This is the most money he ever seen in his life. So he blow that advance. It's gone. He buys all types of stupid stuff that don't make any sense and anything he's ever thought about. He'd do a whole lot with $250,000, but he just blew it, so that's $250,000. I keep that in mind To make this album. But he just blew it, so that's 250. I keep that in mind To make this album that he just signed, for it costs, say, about I don't know $150,000.

Speaker 2:

That's more. Okay, then they gotta promote it, then they gotta do the little tour. They got all types of expenses at his expense Because he has to recoup all of that. He has to recoup. That's his contractual obligation. At the end of the day, when it's time for him to get paid, he going to look at the guys like hey, so I just went such and such, where's my check at? They're going to be like well, you know we gave you your $250,000 advance, right, and you know we got costs. We got this cost, we got that cost. At the end of the day, he going to be in debt over a million dollars, not $250,000, not $300,000. In debt over a million dollars, not $250,000, not $300,000. He's going to be in debt over a million dollars and basically a slave to the corporation, 100%.

Speaker 1:

That's how they get you, man. They first get you in there. That's how they get you. They first get you in there. And then now your first album. You're still trying to make it. You're still trying to make the money off off your second album, your second album. You just now breaking even with your first one. So that's why, after these guys be dropping a music and having all these albums and then after, like, after they done did like 80, 60, some songs, three, four, three or four albums, they selling a discography because they had to work off from the first two albums. You know what I'm saying. They be getting stroked man.

Speaker 2:

It's pretty sad, it really is sad. And then, not only that, though. Not only that, but you got to think about the esoteric portion of that. You know I'm saying they sign that contract and it comes with so many different clauses. You know I'm saying you gotta do all of these rituals, and you know I'm saying things that you would never do on your own. You know humiliations and all types of things that you just would not do, and it's just that's why the word is that you know the most high will give you riches, but the enemy has sorrow with it.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to paraphrase, but he asked sorrow. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh, and I mean it's just, that's just what it is. You got to understand. I understood at a certain point, because when I was around 16, 17, 18, I was doing a whole lot of different research or whatnot, right, but at the same time, I didn't know the truth, and I just I mean I was I was finding out a whole bunch of stuff and, like you, just got to know who runs the industry, right? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

So how old were you when you came into the truth and what was like that turning point for you? Like you came from whatever you was before to into the truth, like what was that, what was the turning point, what was the story to it? Because everybody got a story, so what's yours?

Speaker 2:

yeah, everybody do. I absolutely have story. So I've been in the truth since probably 2013. Ok, and yeah, yeah, and it's wild how it happened. It really is.

Speaker 2:

I was at work, I was working at FedEx, and I was a security guard at that time. And you know a little back story my pops he passed when I was 11. So the father figure thing wasn't there. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so when I got to FedEx or whatnot, and I was a security guard, there was a lot of guys there that were older than me, that were influential, you know, and, uh, every last one of them had a different belief, right. So it was like four of them all four of them had a different belief. This is one guy. He was a security guard, just like I was. He believed in like Egyptology, right. Another guy named Mr Ron, he was cool, he was like the manager of the FedEx. He was cool, cool and he believed in the universe, right, I had this other guy that was he was a regular, you know, Baptist or whatnot.

Speaker 2:

He believed in that. So, you know, we was kind of sort of on the same path at that time. And then there was my mom's ex-husband. Like well, he's an ex-husband now, but back then they was married or whatnot. He was the one who originally gave me this book called Fossilized Customs. I'm here to that and in yeah, in that book they literally had it spelled it out, everything about Saturnalia, Christmas, just the whole nine. And I promise, bro, it was like a light bulb just went off in my head, like this is what it's supposed to be. You know, I learned that the Most High's real name is Yahushua HaMashiach. I learned that you know the most high. I learned a lot just by reading that book. You know what I'm saying and I just think about it sometimes because it was for influential men that like was in. You know my path. I'm like I could have went any way. I could have went any one of those ways, but y'all chose to give me that book and read it for myself.

Speaker 1:

All praises, hallelujah, hallelujah. That's good that he was always a definite good. That's a blessing that he brought you through. So where were you before?

Speaker 2:

Oh, to be real. You know, just like everybody else, I don't know really what it was. I don't want to say Baptist, I don't want to say any of that other stuff. I really don't know what it was. I don't want to say Baptist, I don't want to say any of that other stuff. I really don't know what it was to be real. But I knew we went to church every so often and we was saying the J name, Okay. So I don't really know what it is to be real.

Speaker 2:

Yeah so that right there just lets you know how much we actually did go to church. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I don't know. I was my mother. She had us in the church. We were AMV African Methodist Episcopal and it, I ain't gonna lie, man, I had, I had some crazy times at church. I remember one time, man, we was this lady well, this bitch is true this lady named Miss Cash. She was like the usher and they was taking the tithes for that day, right, I think it was like a New Year's Eve. You know how they come in early morning or late night for the New Year's and be in the church and all that good stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

So I think, it was one of those we was. We was passing around an offering plate and she and she like basically just took some money out the plate, put in her bra and act like, like it was like didn't nobody see her, like, and I'm like we seen you, but you know we ain't gonna say nothing. But man, it was just so much going on at church, man right, and you would think that christians were better.

Speaker 2:

But they really right, they really right, I'm saying but man, when I was going to church I was going to church, you know it was. I don't say people was just jacking like that they probably was, we just see but like it was a lot of little underhanded things going on. You know, I'm saying a lot of underhanded things like, um, the preacher was messing around with the, some of the ladies or whatever, and I was even like I was young, but I was old enough to know the difference. You know what I'm saying. Right, you clearly tell. I mean they they showing favoritism or whatnot. You can clearly see who he favors over everybody else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, definitely yeah, you know, I'm just like man. And then his true color started to show and and with that, so many people was dropping out. Like every week you would see five people drop out two people here, three people here. Before long it was my family, the family that he was messing with, and that was it really. And then we left and he was playing with, and that was it really. And then we left and he was playing the drums like the drummer left.

Speaker 1:

He had to play the drums and he couldn't even do it you say he, he had to play the drums and he couldn't do it yeah, he couldn't do it.

Speaker 2:

it was fast. I'm like man, you really messed over the. So now we ain't got an adequate drummer Right, you got to get up there and do it.

Speaker 1:

Hey, that's what happened when you be doing too much in the church. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's what be happening, man. Our pastor was cheating on his wife with a sister from Africa and the sister from Africa, africa. She came over here and she was like preaching and stuff like that in different classes, but she went back to Africa. I mean, this lady was, I say, she was beautiful. She was a beautiful, light skin, long hair, beautiful African. She was from Kenya, but his wife she wasn't, even though she was older. She was not. She was from Kenya. His wife she wasn't a, even though she was older. She was not a bad-looking woman. Miss Walker was that thing. She was light-skinned too.

Speaker 1:

This motherfucker would sit in the. He would come to the church and sit in his office and call her collect on the church. And sit in his office and call her collect on the church phone and ran up 10 bands, 10 bands. So they was like the phone place was like nah bro, how they found out what was going on. They cut the phone off and they sent them a bill for 10,000. They like what? 10,000? They looking at where the call come from. They cut the phone off. They sent them a bill for $10,000. They're like what $10,000? They're looking at where the call come from.

Speaker 1:

It came out that his wife found out. It was crazy Ten bands, you can only call the church, they couldn't call out. That's a lot of money though. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. His wife left him at the church, we left, we ended up not going to that church no more. And uh he then one day we seen him on public, me and my mother, we was watching tv. We was, uh, yeah, we was watching tv and seen him on public access, public access channel at a church preaching with the African lady. I said this mother, and then, like three years later, he died.

Speaker 2:

Oh well, you know what? Now that you say that the guy who was the preacher for that church we used to go to I don't know what happened to him, but before whatever happened to him, he was looking extra, extra crunchy.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying? Extra crunchy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was looking extra crunchy. You know what I'm saying. He looked like he had been through some things. He lost his little truck and all that, oh, wow, and he was absolutely humble. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

you can't be doing that to the lost sheep yeah, yeah, you can't, can't, you can't do that to y'all's people. Like you said, man, he touches the israel, touches the apple of his eye. You know, absolutely, yeah, you think you'll do something to the, to israel, even if you is israel, you think you're'll do something to Israel, even if you is Israel. You think you'll do something to Israel and he go, not let you have it. Yeah, he coming. Yeah, absolutely, that be the thing man like. So so do you do you where you stay at, and you don't have to say where you stay at if you don't want to, but where you stay at. Is it any classes or camps that you go to down there that you attend?

Speaker 2:

So there is one, I think it's IUIC, okay, but I don't really be seeing them a lot. You know, I really don't see them at all. I honestly wanted to go in a couple of times times, but every time I get a chance to do it ain't not there. Hey, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying, but like, I'll be just going. I know, uh, swords gotta stop each other. You know, iron sharpens iron. But I try as much as I can to stay in the word. You know what I'm saying. I, I do. I'm not gonna even hold you. I'm not gonna lie, I'll be slipping. I'll be slipping, but I do, bro, you know, I try as much as I can to stay in the word, because you gotta keep the old, you gotta keep going. Right, you know what I'm saying. You got to.

Speaker 1:

I don't want the light to go out at all, yeah definitely, definitely and basically, all you're doing is this you know, just, it's like a muscle. You know, just exercising that muscle, making it stronger, you know what I'm saying. And once it gets real strong, then you'll be able to, you know, fight everything that come your way like. So, hey, bro, don't, don't, don't, don't feel bad, because I, you know, I slip up too. Man, we all slip. It'd be hard, like, and sometimes some of us fall pretty hard and pretty low. I'm saying, yeah, and and and we have to, we have to. That's when, really, you really really need to lean on y'all. No, absolutely, just know that. He got you. Yeah, so you said, you got how many brothers and sisters you got, bro, I got a younger brother and an older sister, okay, okay, so you're the middle child? Okay, what's up? What's up? And do you have any nieces and nephews?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got eight older.

Speaker 1:

That was a surprise.

Speaker 2:

My little brother got five feet. My older sister she is a baby.

Speaker 1:

I think he's 30. He's 30. He's fruitful and modified too. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, I got eight of them. I got, I think, four pieces and three messages. Oh, okay, so that's seven. All right, tom, I'm in Something like that. All right, it ain't day out yet. I think I got eight up. Okay, no, seven, I have seven. I'm so sorry. Yes, no, it's 7. I have 7. I'm close up, yes, and the only reason why it could happen like this is because I ain't seen my little nephews and nieces in a minute. You know what I'm saying, right? Yeah, I be listening to them.

Speaker 1:

I ain't seen them in a minute. Hey, hey, that's what's up. That's what's up, and family and having pieces of that and this family around, and you know just being able. So, when you came into the truth, how did your family take it?

Speaker 2:

To be honest with you, we kind of all filed out at the same time but not everybody was sticking with it. Hey, you know, there's a song by uh john boy. He was like uh, when we first came in, it everybody was with us. Now we, now we uh around and it's. I don't know the words, but basically what he said is and it's. I don't know the words, but basically what he said is everybody was with us when we first came in. Now it's just a couple of us.

Speaker 2:

Be honest with you, I found out and my mom found out and then pretty much everybody else in my AD search found out Right, and it took a little minute for some of like my little brother and my sister for them to grasp these concepts or whatnot. But I think my brother has started to truly grasp and I don't know what's going on with my sister. But uh, yeah, if I could just say technically, it's just me and my moms. That's really, really in it.

Speaker 1:

Right, well, you know, as long as it's with you and somebody else, you know, I came to truth, it was just me. So yeah, it was just me. Truth, it was just me. So yeah, it was just me. My mother was a devout Christian preacher and she used to try to make me work on the Sabbath and all type of crazy stuff like. You know what I'm saying. So, yeah, that's when you gotta be strong, especially like when you come into the truth and it be like against your family, like, and you have to like, really like, tell them like, and you have to like, really like, tell them like hey, nah, I can't do this or I can't be on that, and they be feeling some type of way yeah, man, it be deep, bro, like for real. So I get it, man, you, you was kind of through it.

Speaker 2:

I'm saying, yeah, I think about that sometimes, like how that that wasn't a struggle, that one, right there wasn't a struggle, right, because we pretty much all was on the same path. At one point, you know, I'm saying and I guess you know things just happen or whatnot. You know, not everybody was really trying to learn and really trying to stick in there. I don't want to say, fall away, because you know they still got a chance, because they still got breath in their lungs, right, you know what I'm saying right, that's what it be about, man, right, you just gotta just, you know, just plant some seeds, man, and let the most high water to plant.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying yeah, he'll get them together, you know. So you said you a lyricist. This is why I love talking to people and getting to you know, really know. I didn't never know you was a lyricist, bro, like you never told me that I would have didn't had you on a track oh, okay, alright, now I want.

Speaker 2:

Right now I won't say I ain't never been recorded before. You know what I'm saying, but I'm a writer for sure. That's the thing I produce forever. You know I can produce and I can also write forever, but when it comes to the you know spitting or whatever, I ain't never really been on record doing that one. But that's not to say that I can't do it because I believe it or not, you know y'all willing. I have tracks that I have been writing to. I ain't writing to Uh-huh. I ain't want to say like I'm trying to save all the good beats for myself, but I do know what I like or whatnot. You probably would be like man, that beat is really top notch, it kind of is. But it's just because you know I started writing to it. So I do have beats that I probably won't sell to anybody. But yeah, I've been writing lyrics for a little minute. I just don't have a whole lot of practice rapping.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, ah, okay, okay, and it be like that. But we gonna definitely get you on something. Like we pressing the issue on that one, like cause I didn't know how did I know I got a lot of work. Like we be in the lab every Saturday, like getting it like you know what I'm saying every Saturday night in there, like doing something like making something up, like, and just trying to you know what I'm saying every Saturday night. We in there, like doing something like making something up, like, and just trying to you know, do the trying to put the work in? Definitely, man, I'll pray to the most high. Yes, indeed.

Speaker 2:

Hallelujah. Yes, sir. Hey, I don't mind, you know what I'm saying. Okay, I don't mind writing hooks, I don't mind writing verses.

Speaker 1:

Right right, write verses, right right. That's what's up. Man, I remember you sent me that celebration. We unfinished it. I had my bro Bass get on it.

Speaker 1:

I sent that track around to five different people. Man, people were like man, I ain't got nothing for it. I ain't got nothing for it, I can't write to it. I'm like all right, cool, I didn't say write to that man. I don't know. Man, that beat was dope. Man bass wrote something and then I wrote something and then I got my, uh, my sister, she raised the capacity. She say she got a couple bars read to it. So she's a professor, she's a profound, uh, a proficient writer, so she'll get it. She'll come in the studio and write that night and have it done.

Speaker 1:

Like i's how I be working my artists, like I used to send them tracks and let them write over, but now I put the pressure on them. Now we writing in the studio because we ain't got to do it. I'm about to put the pressure on y'all because, hey, we got to get things Every time we come in the studio. We got to get three songs done. So I'm saying, hey, we gotta get things. Every time we come in the studio, we gotta get three songs done. So I'm sorry, yeah, like, so we we be pushing the issue, all praises. So, yeah, tell me one thing, bro, like, because I I always wanted to know this man and and, and I remember you had remade a song for me, right, and it was that that before the song, and it was I guess it was called a B-O-1 or something like that. I sent it to you and you did it and I'm like, so what, like, what's your workflow Like when you do samples? Like, how do you like, what is your workflow with that?

Speaker 2:

Let me see. So when I I I be real with you if I were to use a sample which is already I really don't use samples I honestly like to make my own sample, right. You know what I'm saying. But when I do use samples, I just I don't know. I mean, I use the usual process, you know topping up the sample, trying to find a good focal point or whatnot, and then just going from there you know what I'm saying Pretty much using the groove of the sample to make whatever the rest of the beat is going to sound like, right.

Speaker 1:

Right, okay, I dig that man Like, because I see it, man Like, like I was listening to it and I'm like man, how do you make this like? And I, uh, I make beats too, but not on the level of like like you and my nephew like I don't like I I can make a beat, but not like elaborate and it's dope as y'all make them. So I just stay in my damn lane, right.

Speaker 1:

But uh yeah, I just stay in my lane, cause I already know that if I try to do too much, it's just going to be too much, and then now I'm about to be like really messing some shit up, so I just ain't about to do that. But, uh, if I could have put to put music on here, that's dope. But uh, I do make beats every once in a while, but you know the stuff that you be making. It's like like one of my favorite beats you made for me was that, uh, that, uh, what was it called? Rapid fire? And me and rager compassion slam dunk that we did a video to it too. And it was like, uh, yeah, that, uh, it was called what do we call this one? I never I never get tired of saying that before the sauna. Yeah, we did a video to that. I think it was called rapid fire. I know it was called fire or something. I know it was called fire or something. But, oh, yeah, I know. And the crazy part, man, is that I didn't, I didn't hear that Like, you sent it to me and I might've like overlooked it and it's like, oh, okay, whatever, but as I was create, like create my album, I'm like, yeah, let me go ahead and, uh, use this man.

Speaker 1:

When I was rapping to it, writing to it, rage and Compassion, was in the studio. She, like man, let's just go back and forth on this joint. It's just one of those types. It was only like two minutes and 40-something seconds long. I'm like let's kill it. Then we killed it. I'm like man, I'm going to send that to you. A lot of the beats that you send me when I do songs to him, like I just send these to him, like and let him hear them. Like you know what I'm saying. But everything on Spotify, but I know you just be like wanting to hear it like personal, like, oh okay, that was pretty dope. Like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so what you over there using now you said that you using a, you got a Mac. I mean the.

Speaker 2:

MPC yeah, I got. I made all of the beats that recently, you know, I think, from like 2022 to now. Okay on the MPC live, okay, yeah okay, and then now is this.

Speaker 1:

All MPC did so you was using Fruity Loops.

Speaker 2:

First you said I was, yeah, I was using Fruity Loops first, okay, and then I got a machine which is a native instrument. Yeah, I got a machine and then I graduated to that MPC and I just never looked back after that MPC and I just never looked back after that. Okay, mpc is that workflow. It's just too great.

Speaker 1:

Everybody, everybody be praising the MPC, though, man, you ain't the only person that say that.

Speaker 2:

It's the truth, it's beautiful, like, like I said, I've made almost a thousand beats and they all like I ain't going to say they sound super different, right, because it's coming from one person right but they all are different beats.

Speaker 2:

You know, I'm saying uh-huh, I try to make as many different, like varieties, and I want to say I could make any genre of music Okay, like any genre of music that anybody in Israel needs. I can make that Okay. Hey, I've made so many different types of beats. I've made rock and roll beats. What I've made black beats, different types of beats, I've made rock and roll beats.

Speaker 1:

What I've made.

Speaker 2:

Latin beats. Okay, I've made so many different types of beats I produced for what's that dude's name? It's JP, jp, but he goes by James.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, james, yeah, that's my bro and I produced for him.

Speaker 2:

He asked for a bunch of Latin beats. One time he asked for some rock and roll stuff. Yeah, you know, lucek, he asked for different stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, those shout out to my brothers.

Speaker 1:

They definitely make good music. Like I said, that's how I met you from Lucehek. Uh, he's like, yeah, man, he got this producer. Man, he know he meet new people. They got you know good resources. He be like geeked. I'm like man, let me hear some of his beats like, because I was like I ain't gonna lie, I be apprehensive about people for real. For real, like what I heard, I'm like the first beat I heard was that, uh, I heard it was that hempy, hempy. I'm like okay, this sound all right. So then, when I bought the impact from you and I heard there no trap, so on there, I'm like, but hold on, like, yeah, I definitely gotta have this beat, like definitely, and it ever since then. That brings back memories.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that brings back memories.

Speaker 1:

Say it brings back memories and no, traps up, man, it do. I recorded that song like almost three years ago and finally put it out like what? Last year, this year, yeah, this year, I put it on part five. That's just a testament on how you know. Like you say, you got a thousand beats stacked up and we be having a thousand songs stacked up waiting to go like type of shit. You know what I'm saying yeah, absolutely, I 100% know that, yeah, man.

Speaker 1:

So let's get into some. Let's get into some some, some other other type of conversations. So how do you feel about what's going on politically with this orange man and Democrats and all these tariffs and all these cutbacks and fraud and all that? Like, what's your take on it?

Speaker 2:

Believe it or not. You know, I hear about it and I just know this is humongous distractions. They good at trying to distract, right? You know what I'm saying? It's got a lot of different underhanded things going on at the same time. It's just like misdirection, a whole gang of misdirection, you know. But I just been wondering hopefullyction, you know, but I just been wondering hopefully, you know. Hopefully it gets revealed soon. You ever wonder about the, the one that's gonna be revealed.

Speaker 2:

You ever wonder about that yeah, I do all the time bro yeah, it's just, you know, that's been like a mystery in everybody's mind. Everybody speculates who's gonna be and all this other stuff, but it's probably something we can never even imagine really right, but it definitely like uh, has you wondering?

Speaker 1:

you know it definitely has. Has you wondering about? You know what's really going on and what's really up? Yeah, because this shit is crazy, man. I don't know if y'all really see what's going on. I try not to pay attention to it because the most I've told is don't worry about the Confederacy People are supposed to fear and dread him.

Speaker 1:

So I try not to focus on it, but I definitely definitely are catching it. I mean, I are catching my bad job background. I definitely am. That's even worse. I definitely have caught a lot, of, a lot of the stuff that's going on. You know what people are saying and he doing and this and this and that, and I'm like like if everybody just worried and focused on the Most High and and that Torah, we'll be alright. The Most High will heal the earth. You know, key break thought is that if Israel, the whole of Israel as a nation and this is like an ancient Hebraic thought is that like if the whole of Israel just for one Sabbath kept the Sabbath, the very next day, the Messiah will come and it will be peace on earth. Kept the Sabbath, the very next day, the Messiah will come and it will be peace on earth. Yes, indeed.

Speaker 2:

And I truly do believe that. Yeah, I remember my mom was watching this documentary and they were talking about how our ancestors would pray and pray, and pray, and pray and pray for like I don't know how many hours straight. They would pray in rotation Right, and they would do that, and then they would be OK, they would be I won't say free, but basically free. And you could see it in a number of times where it happened, or whatnot, like Abraham Lincoln, his whole deal. You know what I'm saying. Right, he got popped or whatever, but before then he got his heart softened because they got down and prayed and prayed, and prayed, and prayed, and then the captivity got turned again. You know what I'm saying. So you're right, if Israel would just really just turn back, you know what I'm saying We'll be okay, we would definitely see a difference. We'll definitely see a difference. We'll definitely see a difference, right.

Speaker 1:

So what do you feel like? How do you feel about the immigration and all that? Do you feel like you know they're getting treated unfairly? Well, I'm going to say how I feel after you say how you feel. But do you feel like they're getting treated unfairly and like they should be doing it differently? You're talking about the Latin folks. I'm just saying period. Like, how do you feel about, how do you feel that you know United States is handling the immigrants right now? Do you feel like it's a good job or what Like? What do you feel?

Speaker 2:

To be honest with you, uh, I kind of sort of I don't know. I don't know, I don't really feel strongly one way or the other, simply because it's been so much worse for us. You know what I'm saying, right, it's been so much worse for us and we got to live with it. You know what I'm saying, right. But, like, I'm not knocking anybody's struggle at all, I would never want to do that. It's just we got our own little paths, we got our own battles or whatnot, and, right, they haven't stood in the same space as us. Right, and it's just. It's just like if y'all have never stood in the same space as us and don't want to stand in the same space as us, then we can't stand in the same space as y'all. We can't. That's just what it is. And there's a lot of them. That's cool. There's a lot of them, that's cool. And there's a lot of them that understand the truth of what's really going on. But there's so many more. That's just ignorant, right.

Speaker 1:

And you know, I think it's because of and I'm just going to be real it's the white man. The white man has told them a lot about African-Americans.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely, and they did that Everybody. Yup, they told everybody the lies about us, everybody.

Speaker 1:

And the crazy part about it is that a lot of and this is my issue with immigrants Like is that they come over here, they work, they productive. Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1:

They are added to America, y'all helping us out, y'all helping the country to be, you know, to thrive, and you know y'all taking jobs and stuff like that. But you know it is what it is. But be grateful, don't be, don't, don't act like y'all better than us, cause y'all not, y'all not. It's only because of us. The reason why y'all not, y'all not. It's only because of us. The reason why y'all are over here.

Speaker 1:

Facts Our ancestors paved the way not only for us but for y'all to come over here and enjoy what America has and what we have built to now it's like we done built it, and they ain't even giving us a chunk. They giving it to the immigrants. You know, yeah, slapping the face, and they come over, especially the Mexicans, man, they come over here and they act like they. Just the best thing since sliced bread, they better. I live around a bunch of Mexicans, so I know that they just they act like they just so much better. And I had to tell the one like bro, when, when, when our people were going through Jim Crow and where were y'all at, where were y'all at? So so now, when Trump is getting y'all goofy asses out of here, yeah, now y'all want to talk about some black and brown. Nah, it's only black and brown.

Speaker 1:

when it suits y'all, it's only black and anything else. When it suits the other nation, they add us, because they know that we are caring and we go ride for people. That's just us. That's how we do. You know what I'm saying. So they use our strength and us being us to their advantage. Yeah, benevolence, yeah to their advantage. And you know it's a lot of them that are cool, that handle the business. Come over here and you know, show love and yeah those are the ones I rock with.

Speaker 1:

But like the ones that come over here and act like they better than us and oh know, show love and yeah, those are the ones I rock with. But like the ones that come over here and act like they better than us, and oh, we lazy, and like the Africans, how dare you come over here?

Speaker 2:

You was just living in a grass fucking hut walking around with sandals on and your feet rusty and you come over here and act like you, better than me, exactly, exactly Yo do you and you come over and act like you're better than me exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yo do you know, and I don't want to change the subject, but I want to get on that because it's like, yeah, definitely, let's talk about it. It's like it's ridiculous to me you know what I'm saying like I was talking to this sister one time. She was an African. I don't know if she was an african, she was african, right. I don't know if she's from nigeria or whatnot, but I don't think she ever told me. But how she looked at herself and her hair and everything like that, like she literally said it was uncivilized for her to come out with her natural hair. If that's not colonization, I don't know what is, but you got to think they got ramsacked just like.

Speaker 1:

Let's just be real. We just go for context purposes. We the true Indians.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, and this is facts for context purposes. We, the true Indians, but, uh, absolutely 100%. Look my and this is facts, this is 100% facts. Yeah, my grandmother, great grandmother and great great grandmother were Cherokee mm-hmm purebred man, pureblood Cherokee, 100% mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

You see they got the papers to prove it and those $5 Indians still trying to claim our heritage? Yep, they have the papers to prove it. Check this out Over in Africa. You know those little teepee huts that they be saying that they people, those are in Ghana and Africa and stuff like that. Our people were living in those.

Speaker 1:

First, see, they came from Siberia, where the Asian they call it the river of the yellow, no, the river of gold or the river of yellow or something like that. Where the yellow people come from, which is the Asiatic people, the Chinese, japanese, you know, korean, all them. And then you got the Eskimos and the Indians and the Mexicans. They all come from over there. They just migrated and came over to Barron Strait and then came down in here. And then now they talk about some, oh, where the white man was trying to get land. No, that wasn't the white man getting it, because the white man knew he wasn't no Indian. Exactly, it was the I don't even know what to call their asses man, because they ain't Indians. No, I don't know what they mean. What I was asses man, they ain't idiots, but you know it was no, I don't know, yeah, and you know they.

Speaker 1:

So so what I was about to say is so you know, like we, we were here already. You know I'm saying absolutely and and they got ravaged, just like you know, africa got ravaged, just like how america got ravaged and the white man came over here and we were prisoners of war. Just like over there. Now, ethiopia was the only country in Africa that was not All the way up until like 19, like even with, like Haile Selassie, and I remember they tried to drop an atomic bomb on Haile Selassie. That was crazy. They tried to drop a bomb on him but he was like man, y'all do it, it's going down. But they were ravaged, just like us. So you know, they have that same colonization mentality as we do, because you know the white man, we gotta give it to him.

Speaker 1:

The white man was crafty, with the help of the most high. He was crafty, and you know. But his time is coming to an end, he know it. That's why he acting up right now. Because, look, you know, they were the white people. A lot of people think that they were. Like they went up there like a bunch of Africans, went up to Cossack's Caves and was up there. They all, like a bunch of Africans, went up to, you know, cossack's caves and was up there and they mutated. It ain't happened like that. It was selective breeding. They didn't want, they only wanted blonde hair and blue eyes in their nation. So anything, any child that came out like that, they killed it or discarded it and they made sure that they kept that blonde hair and blue eyes. You know what I'm saying? And that's where you get these kakazoids. I don't call them kakazoids, hey, I ain't gonna lie to you, you know.

Speaker 2:

hey, y'all call them what it is. Yeah, they hate that shit.

Speaker 1:

Even like when you call them what it is. Yeah, I call them what it is. They hate that shit. Even like when you call them pilgrims. They hate that shit too.

Speaker 1:

But Akakazoids do you know, Neanderthals, right, and see, they know that too, because they you know, the scientists talk about something. Man, yeah, they, yeah we. It's three different types of human beings. I said, no, it's only one human being. Y'all something else. Like y'all niggas mutated to something totally different than what we are. Like you know what I'm saying, they don't even have the same type of blood flowing through their body. Like you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

They a byproduct of us but they just ain't us no more. Like so many years of selective breeding and and mutation. It's like now they like you know what they. It's at the end of it Like so yeah, man, it's, it's, it's crazy, man, but so let let let everybody know where you, where they can hear your music and if they want to go buy music, if you've got a website, all your links, your social media, how can people get plugged in with ZadekMusic144?

Speaker 2:

You can go on my TikTok. It's the same name, zadekmusic144. I try to upload as much as I possibly can. Right, I did have a website in the works but for whatever reason, it just didn't go the way it was supposed to. Honestly looking for somebody who could, you know, do me a good website. You know what I'm saying. I've been trying to get a website for a minute.

Speaker 1:

We could talk about that. Yeah, I know how to make a website. I made both my websites, so yeah, we'll talk about that. Yeah, I know how to make a website. I made both my websites, so yeah, we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2:

So I've been trying. I ain't a lot, but uh, yeah, so deck music, one 44, uh, tick tock, and you could message me through there or whatnot. And if you, you know, got some some music inquiries, message me through there or whatnot. And if you, you know, got some some music inquiries, we can just, you know, go from there.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying, okay, yeah, I'll check it out, man, cause, uh, a brother, like I said, the brother's fire man, and and we definitely, we definitely man, good music man, y'all definitely need to check him out. Like I said, man, like I always say, man, y'all don't go check his stuff out, don't like, share, comment and enjoy his stuff. Y'all some fucking haters Just bottom line, because he's doing work for the most high. You know, when you do work for the most high, you can't be biased and be like, oh, it needs to be better than what it is. If the most high is happy with it, then why? See, men ain't never happy.

Speaker 1:

But we ain't gotta please, you niggas. That's why y'all you know what I'm saying. Still go check his music out, though, Y'all niggas go check his music out, though, but I don't praise man like man.

Speaker 1:

We definitely got to do it. Yeah, we'll definitely have to do a part two, man, because I, uh, you know, I just want to I don't think that you know that uh, that that that this build was. It was a beautiful build, but I definitely want to expand a little bit more and, uh, but I try to keep my, uh, my, I try to keep them to an hour so they won't be so long. People get tired. But we definitely have to do a part two, definitely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah definitely, man, I appreciate you coming on and doing your thing and speaking your truth man, and Just really, like you know, let this build it with a brother man, like for real. It's a beautiful thing. So, yeah, man, hey, this is your boy a beer. Hold on, I'm not even gonna, because we gonna do a part two. So, yeah, yeah, and it's gonna be a, it's gonna be a immediate like. So it, after you hear my voice on this one, we go hear part two. I ain't even go put part one out until I get finished, until I record part two, and then we go put part part one and two out, so y'all can just totally enjoy it. But I, I, you know, I I just definitely want to, you know, make sure that my brother gets his, just deserves it just highlight, and I want to definitely, uh, want to definitely play some of his beats the next time on part two. So y'all stay tuned, man, stay tuned, and part two coming, part two is coming, definitely. All praises, hallelujah you.